#edtechchat Archive
#Edtechchat focuses on Education Technology. Co-founder Tom Murray says #edtechchat "connects us professionally with inspiring educators from all over the world, all of who encourage us to be better every day for the children and families we serve.”
Monday September 4, 2017
8:00 PM EDT
Gregbagby
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Greetings all. Greg, elementary Admin. from Chattanooga, checking in.
#EdTechChat
MHEducation
Sep 4 @ 8:00 PM EDT
🎥 David Levin: Artificial intelligence in the classroom is here to stay.
https://t.co/3bHeVFYPku
via
@CNBC
#AI
#edtechchat
#backtoschool
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:00 PM EDT
That's the whole point of tonight! :)
#edtechchat
In reply to @MusingsOnEdTech
NovakLibTech
Sep 4 @ 8:00 PM EDT
I'm Staci, TL & tech integrationist at an Iowa elementary magnet school
#edtechchat
CraftingHeroes
Sep 4 @ 8:00 PM EDT
My name is Sean and I teach kids about comp sci and game dev in Colorado.
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski
participatechat
Sep 4 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Participate in the upcoming
#edtechchat
by sharing resources and collaborating at
https://t.co/XQsYIa0dt7
chadw675
Sep 4 @ 8:00 PM EDT
My tweets for the next hour are related to
#edtechchat
. Chad from NY. Elementary Principal
@SESIslip
. First day tomorrow!
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 7:59 PM EDT
Welcome to
#edtechchat
! Please introduce yourself and where you're joining us from!
Clymer_Edu
Sep 4 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Evening
#edtechchat
- Justin from NJ here
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Hey
#edtechchat
! N checking in from 🇨🇦.
#edtech
cofounder, designer, and all around enthusiast. Looking forward to the discussion ahead.
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Thanks for joining us - you picked a great night to start
#edtechchat
In reply to @momma_miller80
teachintechgal
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Welcome everyone! Happy to be here tonight!
#edtechchat
edtech_update
Sep 4 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Tips to Help Kids with Back-To-School Anxiety by
@mindshiftkqed
https://t.co/tkv3D53dDn
#edtech
#edtechchat
MsCaturano
Sep 4 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Hi! Emilia from CT. Happy to be here!
#edtechchat
EdTechNerd
Sep 4 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Hi everyone-Bryan Miller, CEO
#TopTechEDU
, Educator, & Director of Strategic EDU Outreach at
@WonderWorkshop
from South Florida
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Thanks for joining us again Eric!
#edtechchat
In reply to @EricAfterSchool
danibostick
Sep 4 @ 8:01 PM EDT
I'm Dani, a Latin & transitional English teacher in Winchester, VA.
#EdTechChat
In reply to @ajpodchaski
upahk
Sep 4 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Hello! Kaylin Upah, 7th grade ELA, Colorado Springs, CO
#edtechchat
teachintechgal
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Hi friend! How is your year so far?
#edtechchat
In reply to @Gregbagby
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Hey
#EdTechChat
! Sadie from St. Louis, Instructional Innovation Specialist...whatever, I help Ts help their kids.
kylelaurie
Sep 4 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Steve, Tech Integrator from Canandaigua, NY
#edtechchat
lrdichiara
Sep 4 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Where It's AT: Mrs. DiChiara's
#AssistiveTechnology
Blog
#MotivationalMonday
#ATchat
#backtoschool
#a11y
#edtechchat
https://t.co/K8AxpgAunN
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Thanks for joining us Staci!
#edtechchat
In reply to @NovakLibTech
Screensandkids
Sep 4 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Looking forward to the discussion. Advocating for medically sound screen safety regulations for students.
#edtechchat
teachintechgal
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Welcome!
#edtechchat
In reply to @MusingsOnEdTech
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Great to have
@teachintechgal
$
@Gregbagby
with me tonight!
#edtechchat
bigtechcoach
Sep 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Keith George, Alabama Dept. of Education
#edtechchat
MrSchoenbart
Sep 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Hey
#edtechchat
. Adam from NY. New Assistant Principal in CT. Happy to make it this week.
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
#edtechchat
Hi, John from friendly Manitoba Canada, a teacher of gr. 3/4s in a small rural school.
techtimj
Sep 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Good evening
#edtechchat
Tech coordinator from NJ
ebrown0789
Sep 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Emily here! Digital Learning Facilitator at
@NHSChargers
in NC.
#edtechchat
teachintechgal
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Welcome Emilia!
#edtechchat
In reply to @MsCaturano
Gregbagby
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Fantastic! And how is your gig going?
#EdTechChat
In reply to @teachintechgal
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Welcome to
#edtechchat
Sean!
In reply to @CraftingHeroes
drmcgettigan
Sep 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Hello-Joan
#EdTech
Director from FL
#edtechchat
LSpencerEdD
Sep 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Laura from San Diego. Exec Dir of Innovation & Design for K-6 district
#edtechchat
drjoelbgoodin
Sep 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
RT
@MusingsOnEdTech
: Hey
#edtechchat
! N checking in from 🇨🇦.
#edtech
cofounder, designer, and all around enthusiast. Looking forward to the…
drjoelbgoodin
Sep 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
RT
@edtech_update
: Tips to Help Kids with Back-To-School Anxiety by
@mindshiftkqed
https://t.co/h7Ikpji1SZ
#edtech
#edtechchat
teachintechgal
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Welcome Kaylin!
#edtechchat
In reply to @upahk
wfryer
Sep 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
#edtechchat
Wes Fryer, Tech Director
@casadyschoolokc
in Oklahoma City &
#STEAM
after-school LED light puppet master
EdTechNerd
Sep 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Hi Joan! Hope you’re well…preparing for Hurricane Irma?! It’s a mad-scene out there!
#edtechchat
In reply to @drmcgettigan
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Tonight's
#edtechchat
topic - Your thoughts about
https://t.co/59CNTOTbNJ
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Alex -
#techdir
from NJ - moderator and co-founder - could not wait to discuss this topic tonight!!
#edtechchat
MRoarkPMP
Sep 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Michael Roark, Non-certificated Technology Dir from SoCal. Excited to be here tonight!
#edtechchat
DennisDill
Sep 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Hey
#edtechchat
im Dennis ... I dig tech and help make some cool memories for the kids
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Thanks for joining us Chad
#edtechchat
In reply to @chadw675, @SESIslip
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
We will use a Q1 Q2… format for Questions during
#edtechchat
. Please use the A1 A2… format for answers.
teachintechgal
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Welcome back Sadie
#edtechchat
In reply to @sadieclorinda
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Nathan and I am at the
@s_bearden
birthday party
#edtechchat
NovakLibTech
Sep 4 @ 8:03 PM EDT
I teach at a
#STEAM
school also!
@JSAMagnet
#edtechchat
In reply to @wfryer, @casadyschoolokc, @JSAMagnet
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Make sure to add
#edtechchat
to all of your tweets tonight for this chat. Your voice matters!
momma_miller80
Sep 4 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Really trying to just observe and get a feel for this before I jump in
#edtechchat
#nervous
!
teachintechgal
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Welcome Steve
#edtechchat
In reply to @kylelaurie
NancyWTech
Sep 4 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Hi there! Nancy from Dallas, instructional tech geek, looking forward to tonight's topic.
#EdTechChat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Thanks for joining
#edtechchat
tonight Justin!
In reply to @Clymer_Edu
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Do you have many students taking Latin?
#edtechchat
In reply to @danibostick, @ajpodchaski
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Q1 coming up in 1 minute…
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Thanks for stopping by!
#edtechchat
In reply to @MusingsOnEdTech
DennisDill
Sep 4 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Hey Bryan ... you prepping for Irma yet
#edtechchat
In reply to @EdTechNerd, @WonderWorkshop
Scott_Gregory12
Sep 4 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Scott from Nebraska. Second year Supt. At
@NOPSwarriors
#edtechchat
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Sean, STEM Coach and special educator form NYC
#edtechchat
In reply to @OfficeofEdTech, @AMBatten
karenvaites
Sep 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Hi
#edtechchat
, I'm Chief Evangelist at
@openupresources
, the nonprofit provider of
#OER
curriculum. Love our work!
https://t.co/B05UmlDOfx
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Thanks for joining us Emilia!
#edtechchat
In reply to @MsCaturano
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Hey
#edtechchat
! I host the
@HouseofEdTech
Podcast and I am VERY interested in tonight's conversation. Chris, NJ, HS SS
chadw675
Sep 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Glad to be here. Great topic tonight
@ajpodchaski
#EdTechChat
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @SESIslip, @ajpodchaski
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Q1: What was your first reaction to reading the article? If you felt strongly, what was it that got you?
#edtechchat
mskkauffman
Sep 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Hi
#edtechchat
! Library Media Specialist from Western PA :) Excited for this chat!
Hypepraise
Sep 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
#edtechchat
interesting perspective. teachers get a $25 gift card & must report so not sure @ $1300 equipment
In reply to @s_bearden, @nytimes, @ajpodchaski, @DennisDill, @iplante, @nathan_stevens, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
drmcgettigan
Sep 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Hey Bryan
#edtechchat
I am in process of moving to the beach-excellent timing!
@edtechnerd
EdTechNerd
Sep 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Hi Joan! Hope you’re well…preparing for Hurricane Irma?! It’s a mad-scene out there!
#edtechchat
In reply to @drmcgettigan
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Ooh, LED light puppet master sounds like an awesomely fun job title.
#edtechchat
In reply to @wfryer, @casadyschoolokc
EdTechNerd
Sep 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Yup…Already stocked up on water/goods, and gas for my generator…You?!
#edtechchat
In reply to @DennisDill, @WonderWorkshop
JudyArzt
Sep 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Joining
#edtechchat
for next hour from Connecticut where I teach grad ed courses
teachermrskhan
Sep 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Hello, Iram here. Principal in Surrey, BC Canada.
#edtechchat
TheTechRabbi
Sep 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Michael, Tech Rabbi here.
#edtechchat
ReadforCupcakes
Sep 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Caren from NC joining
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Great to have you here tonight Bryan! Full disclosure - your facebook post inspired me to make this the topic tonight!
#edtechchat
In reply to @EdTechNerd, @WonderWorkshop
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Welcome to
#edtechchat
Dani!
In reply to @danibostick
EdTechNerd
Sep 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Wow!!! Stay safe!!! Let me know if there is anything you need help with during this scary time!
#edtechchat
In reply to @drmcgettigan
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
A1: I was shocked at the tone and lack of knowledge about certification vs promotional affiliations
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Thanks for joining us Kaylin
#edtechchat
In reply to @upahk
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
A1: 1st reaction was "Yay for Kayla!" Then I started to read the comments and think more about the point of the article
#edtechchat
NovakLibTech
Sep 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
A1: I found her classroom to look very similar to where I teach
#edtechchat
EricAfterSchool
Sep 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
A1: Felt like a punch in the gut to our community of connected edus. Society is uncomfortable w. teachers as innovators.
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Great to see you again Joan!
#edtechchat
In reply to @drmcgettigan
raspberryberet3
Sep 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
haven't had a chance to read the article; will do ASAP and give my thoughts via the Qs.
#edtechchat
MrSchoenbart
Sep 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
A1: I thought it asked really interesting & important Qs that we don't address enough--made me realize that I don't at least
#edtechchat
brynmw
Sep 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Bryn, principal in a wonderful elementary school in Metro Vancouver, Canada.
#EdTechChat
Gregbagby
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Sounds about right.
#edtechchat
Hypepraise
Sep 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
#edtechchat
interesting perspective. teachers get a $25 gift card & must report so not sure @ $1300 equipment
In reply to @s_bearden, @nytimes, @ajpodchaski, @DennisDill, @iplante, @nathan_stevens, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
DennisDill
Sep 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
We're paying close attention ... tomorrow is shopping day ... possible plywood for Windows
#edtechchat
In reply to @EdTechNerd, @WonderWorkshop
LSpencerEdD
Sep 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
A1: I was torn at first. Love the perks her Ss receive, but felt self-serving when reading about the clothing freebies.
#edtechchat
NovakLibTech
Sep 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Agreed!
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski
teachermrskhan
Sep 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
A1 Mixed feelings, see it happening and can be annoying... but if it's already products you believe in, why not?
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
A1: Here is a response from
@thenerdyteacher
#edtechchat
https://t.co/MpkXWLMkLh
EdTechNerd
Sep 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
A1: So I was interviewed for this exact same article. This was NOT what I was told the story would be about.
#edtechchat
drmcgettigan
Sep 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Thank you!
#edtechchat
#IrmaBeGone
In reply to @EdTechNerd
MrDpasion
Sep 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Dayson, STEAM coord./ITF in NC. Saw the topic and wanted to stop by
#edtechchat
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
#edtechchat
A1: A real thought provoker. Makes it seem that all teachers connected to some tech app are trying to fool everyone into buying
techtimj
Sep 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
A1: First reaction - headline didn't match the article. Also felt it drew conclusions based on 2 cases. Misleading message
#edtechchat
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
A1 you have to do what is in the best interest of your students. If you do not get tools for them when will they get exposed
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski
chadw675
Sep 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
A1: First thought-why not teachers? Then the ethics question enters the conversation
#edtechchat
Gregbagby
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Thank I am. And you?
#edTechchat
In reply to @karenvaites
wfryer
Sep 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
#edtechchat
A1 Article reminded me of my blog disclosure policy which I wrote in 2005. Important to be transparent!
https://t.co/jxehE8pSR7
EdTechNerd
Sep 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
A1: The story I was told this was about was celebrating teachers and ambassador programs and how they help teachers in need.
#edtechchat
danibostick
Sep 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
A lot of the comments seemed to focus more on tech in the classroom, which in most districts is a given-- big push for 1:1
#edtechchat
In reply to @mrnesi
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
It is part of our formal language program. We have a bunch!
#edtechchat
In reply to @jschwartzcen, @danibostick
upahk
Sep 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
A1: Sounds to me like extrinsic rewards for teachers... Isn't this what we discourage in our own classrooms?
#edtechchat
mrs_awalsh
Sep 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Hi! Ashley, 2nd grade teacher at a STEAM academy.
@JSAMagnet
#edtechchat
Clymer_Edu
Sep 4 @ 8:07 PM EDT
A1: My first reaction was excitement!
#edtechchat
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Hello Bryn from Manitoba.
#edtechchat
In reply to @brynmw
MsCaturano
Sep 4 @ 8:07 PM EDT
A1: I am a Level 2 Google Educator, hoping to become a certified trainer this year. Never thought about how that brands me (1/2)
#edtechchat
jessxbo
Sep 4 @ 8:07 PM EDT
I'm here! Jess from FL, but maybe just lurking because I'm a little afraid of today's topic 😂
#edtechchat
kobriengcs
Sep 4 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Hey all, Kristin, HS English in at a Christian school in NC. Interested in tonight's convo.
#edtechchat
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:07 PM EDT
A1: T feedback critical to
#edtech
success & while any freebie influences $120 subscription != $1300 3D printer/conference trip.
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Q1: What was your first reaction to reading the article? If you felt strongly, what was it that got you?
#edtechchat
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:07 PM EDT
A1: I didn't take huge issue with the article. Companies advertise. It's what they do. They found a way into the edu field.
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Depends on who got the gift, what the laws are, and how it came in - there are a lot of things the article missed
#edtechchat
In reply to @Hypepraise, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @nathan_stevens, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
EdTechNerd
Sep 4 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Wow!! Thanks, Alex….It is definitely an important topic, but what is more important is talking about how unethical NYTimes was
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @WonderWorkshop
chadw675
Sep 4 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Agreed. Many want passive educators. Irony is with charters growing, how is that diff? Many are corporate owned
#edtechchat
EricAfterSchool
Sep 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
A1: Felt like a punch in the gut to our community of connected edus. Society is uncomfortable w. teachers as innovators.
#edtechchat
mskkauffman
Sep 4 @ 8:07 PM EDT
A1: taken aback - partly bc the hard-working Ts featured in the article were made to seem like they were doing something wrong
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Q1: What was your first reaction to reading the article? If you felt strongly, what was it that got you?
#edtechchat
NovakLibTech
Sep 4 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Yes! And if we as teachers are finally getting what we need for kids, is that so bad?
#edtechchat
In reply to @sadieclorinda
CraftingHeroes
Sep 4 @ 8:07 PM EDT
A1: Seemed pretty one sided to me with broad strokes and the drawn correlation between med and ed seems less clear cut to me.
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:07 PM EDT
And how so many ppl are not fwd thinking - educators and non-educators alike
#edtechchat
In reply to @danibostick
TheTechRabbi
Sep 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1: Excited for
@TopDogTeaching
till I saw article take familiar tone against
#education
perpetuating neg. stereotypes.
#edtechchat
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1: First reaction-it is a double edged sword, but
@nytimes
left some out - My fill
#edtechchat
response -
https://t.co/84m5KWU6VG
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @nytimes
AlexVKluge
Sep 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1 Not so much a strong reaction, as recognizing things I have taken into account when forming a business model.
#EdTechChat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
The article for tonight is found here
https://t.co/59CNTOTbNJ
#edtechchat
In reply to @momma_miller80
drmcgettigan
Sep 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
The article made some good points but there was a lack of knowledge in many levels. The comments were pretty brutal.
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Q1: What was your first reaction to reading the article? If you felt strongly, what was it that got you?
#edtechchat
kobriengcs
Sep 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1: 1st thought, of course Ts and As R going to love freebies, they're so strapped for cash. 2nd thought, do parents know/care?
#edtechchat
TheTechRabbi
Sep 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1: article inspires me to be more of an advocate for
#education
outside education.
#edtechchat
MsCaturano
Sep 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1 (2/2): I see potential issues w companies sponsoring classrooms, but I know how necessary technology is to our Ss futures.
#edtechchat
teachermrskhan
Sep 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1 Huge problem, research for the article was not thorough.
#edtechchat
In reply to @techtimj
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Which is too bad. Only ever takes a few bad apples... (although I don't think the Ts in the article qualify as bad apples).
#edtechchat
In reply to @jschwartzcen
teachintechgal
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Evidence - obviously this was not how it was pitched to any of us!
#edtechchat
In reply to @EdTechNerd
danibostick
Sep 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Comparison to Big Pharma was also not accurate. Google Educator is not like Pfizer Nurse since many schools already use Google.
#edtechchat
In reply to @techtimj
Call_Me_Doyle
Sep 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Hey,
#edtechchat
, a wise voice (
@RafranzDavis
) speaks:
https://t.co/TrvOKW5JgE
wfryer
Sep 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
#edtechchat
@EdTechNerd
what did they tell you the article was about?
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Also depends if the company gave it to the person or the school
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
AlexVKluge
Sep 4 @ 8:09 PM EDT
A1 The ability of large corporations to reach out and market in strength may squeeze out smaller, more innovative efforts.
#EdTechChat
EdTechNerd
Sep 4 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Thanks for sharing this!!! It was twisted and turned and we were used to make this another story.
#edtechchat
teachintechgal
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Evidence - obviously this was not how it was pitched to any of us!
#edtechchat
In reply to @EdTechNerd
kobriengcs
Sep 4 @ 8:09 PM EDT
A1: I also thought the comparison to pharm companies was interesting.
#edtechchat
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Brutal is putting conservatively...
#edtechchat
In reply to @drmcgettigan
NovakLibTech
Sep 4 @ 8:09 PM EDT
A1: I also think if we funded schools better, we wouldn't have to find funding elsewhere.
#edtechchat
Scott_Gregory12
Sep 4 @ 8:09 PM EDT
RT Q1?
#edtechchat
EdTechNerd
Sep 4 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Katrina just posted the email we received from them…it was to celebrate and NOT tear us apart!
#edtechchat
In reply to @jessxbo
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Thanks to all who are joining tonight - lots of great converstation already - don't just lurk - join us
#yourvoicematters
#edtechchat
TheTechRabbi
Sep 4 @ 8:09 PM EDT
A1: I am concerned that
#Edtech
startups are not creating proper ethics documents/procedure like the big tech companies.
#edtechchat
BeTheChnge
Sep 4 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Becky, k-5 STEM from Barrington,IL
#edtechchat
teachintechgal
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Yes. I had to go back and look!
#edtechchat
In reply to @EdTechNerd
techtimj
Sep 4 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Agree. I think it drew too general a conclusion.The ethics are in the motivation and the article really glossed over that
#edtechchat
In reply to @danibostick
brynmw
Sep 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1: I was surprised by the response, but I don't have the same context. Not around tech, but textbook authors are similar.
#EdTechChat
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Agreed. The clothing felt a little over the top. No longer about best serving her Ss. And brand name T's makes me squeamish
#edtechchat
In reply to @LSpencerEdD
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Problem is a large part of the population doesn't 'get it'
#edtechchat
In reply to @MsCaturano
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Different schools, different rules. It is the Wild West out there
#edtechchat
In reply to @Hypepraise, @ajpodchaski, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
chadw675
Sep 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Yes! Article could've centered on the innovation that occurred, but instead was very accusatory
#EdTechChat
In reply to @mskkauffman
magistrareardon
Sep 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
The 5 Tech Trends to Watch This School Year from ISTE's CEO
https://t.co/yhPbathS4n
#edtechchat
drmcgettigan
Sep 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
So much of what
@TopDogTeaching
said resonated-especially this:
#edtechchat
NancyWTech
Sep 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Comments are pretty brutal these days no matter the topic- yes? We all seem to caught up in Righteous Indignation
#EdTechChat
#digcit
In reply to @drmcgettigan
teachintechgal
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
The exact email to bryan and I
@edtechnerd
#edtechchat
In reply to @wfryer, @EdTechNerd, @EdTechNerd
MrSchoenbart
Sep 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Agreed. It's also faulty because doctors don't (rarely?) use the meds they prescribe; Ts usually share the
#edtech
they love
#edtechchat
danibostick
Sep 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Comparison to Big Pharma was also not accurate. Google Educator is not like Pfizer Nurse since many schools already use Google.
#edtechchat
In reply to @techtimj
teachermrskhan
Sep 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Such a slippery slope, feel obligated to use certain products that may not be the best out there.
#edtechchat
In reply to @NovakLibTech, @sadieclorinda
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1: I also don't think there's anything wrong w someone becoming a pro at a tool, & the company supporting them to teach others
#edtechchat
wfryer
Sep 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
#edtechchat
@mrnesi
@drmcgettigan
I had not looked at the comments! Mainstream media education articles seem to bring out the worst...
Gregbagby
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1) I think some ambassadorships go a bit far. I understand using the products and talking about it, some hoops are ridiculous.
#edtechchat
kobriengcs
Sep 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Right? At what point does it stop being for the school and become more of a "side hustle" for the T?
#edtechchat
In reply to @nathan_stevens, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
AlexVKluge
Sep 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1 Mapping research and known powerful techniques into products and practice is an issue across education
#EdTechChat
danibostick
Sep 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Sad when my children have to suffer through Death by Packet when they could experience so much more w/ the help of tech
#EdTechChat
In reply to @mrnesi
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:11 PM EDT
I found it really thought provoking. Made me take a step back in my thinking. Why should Ts be any less "influenced" than Drs?
#edtechchat
In reply to @kobriengcs
brynmw
Sep 4 @ 8:11 PM EDT
It is an uneasy one, but necessary for us to have. I'm with you on the 'lurking side, though.
#EdTechChat
In reply to @jessxbo
EdTechNerd
Sep 4 @ 8:11 PM EDT
Katrina just posted the first email…but during the interview she was asking me all of the positive things this was doing for EDU
#edtechchat
wfryer
Sep 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
#edtechchat
@EdTechNerd
what did they tell you the article was about?
LSpencerEdD
Sep 4 @ 8:11 PM EDT
A1: But we have to admit, some Ts love the free and it's not always a great fit for Ss. Need to ensure Ss needs stay 1st
#edtechchat
techtimj
Sep 4 @ 8:11 PM EDT
Agreed. I think the whole teacher branding is a whole other article topic that was ignored
#edtechchat
In reply to @MusingsOnEdTech, @LSpencerEdD
BeTheChnge
Sep 4 @ 8:11 PM EDT
A1) I find this topic so interesting and relevant but the comments so disheartening. I don't like the shaming:-(
#edtechchat
NovakLibTech
Sep 4 @ 8:11 PM EDT
I would hope that if you are truly doing your job
#edtechchat
In reply to @teachermrskhan, @NovakLibTech, @sadieclorinda
mskkauffman
Sep 4 @ 8:11 PM EDT
I wouldn’t even read the comments - was worried that I’d get too angry
#edtechchat
In reply to @drmcgettigan
MrSchoenbart
Sep 4 @ 8:11 PM EDT
Man, that is a pretty interesting turn from the end result...Thanks for sharing that
#edtechchat
teachintechgal
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Evidence - obviously this was not how it was pitched to any of us!
#edtechchat
In reply to @EdTechNerd
NovakLibTech
Sep 4 @ 8:11 PM EDT
you wouldn't be an ambassador for a product you didn't believe in
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:11 PM EDT
Agreed. But we must fight ignorance with information. No one every changed their mind just by being called out
#edtechchat
In reply to @EdTechNerd, @WonderWorkshop
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:11 PM EDT
Interesting...
#edtechchat
In reply to @teachintechgal, @EdTechNerd
DennisDill
Sep 4 @ 8:11 PM EDT
Schools will look the other way if they benefit
#edtechchat
In reply to @nathan_stevens, @Hypepraise, @ajpodchaski, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
MelroseCurricul
Sep 4 @ 8:11 PM EDT
Hello all, from Boston, MA district administrator
#edtechchat
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:11 PM EDT
Important to see this in context of
https://t.co/J1kzk4nF8G
#edtechchat
teachintechgal
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Evidence - obviously this was not how it was pitched to any of us!
#edtechchat
In reply to @EdTechNerd
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:11 PM EDT
This is my problem. If you are an "ambassador," and find a better tool, Do you stop using the one you represent? I bet not.
#edtechchat
In reply to @teachermrskhan, @NovakLibTech
danibostick
Sep 4 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Or, they gain expertise in tech that their division is already pushing instead of using tech as a glorified typewriter
#EdTechChat
In reply to @MrSchoenbart
JudyArzt
Sep 4 @ 8:12 PM EDT
But isn't that true for most articles we find in the popular media?
#edtechchat
In reply to @teachermrskhan, @techtimj
drmcgettigan
Sep 4 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Wes, you are so right! I got halfway down and could not read anymore
#edtechchat
@wfryer
#edtechchat
wfryer
Sep 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
#edtechchat
@mrnesi
@drmcgettigan
I had not looked at the comments! Mainstream media education articles seem to bring out the worst...
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Most do, but jealousy happens
#edtechchat
In reply to @DennisDill, @Hypepraise, @ajpodchaski, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
MsCaturano
Sep 4 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Do you mean don't get the importance of tech?
#edtechchat
In reply to @mrnesi
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Q2 coming up in 1 minute…
#edtechchat
RafranzDavis
Sep 4 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A great reporter does the interview and then goes where the story takes her. Do not try to make this something it's not
#edtechchat
teachintechgal
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
The exact email to bryan and I
@edtechnerd
#edtechchat
In reply to @wfryer, @EdTechNerd, @EdTechNerd
MRoarkPMP
Sep 4 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A1)There is a big difference between being Google certified (which has a testing fee), and pimping out classroom solutions
#edtechchat
momma_miller80
Sep 4 @ 8:12 PM EDT
I think this comes down to do teachers truly believe in the product or are they just promoting it for personal gain
#edtechchat
#imnotsure
Rdene915
Sep 4 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A1thought it was a bit strong that Ts using tools only for some swag/$ I like the connection bc I learn abt how tools help Ss
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski
brynmw
Sep 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
There is something 'unsettling' about using the term brand name teacher. We have amazing Ts who are t looking for recognition
#EdTechChat
In reply to @MusingsOnEdTech, @LSpencerEdD
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
They don't have to look the other way - partnerships with vendors are a real thing and benefit both comany and district
#edtechchat
In reply to @DennisDill, @nathan_stevens, @Hypepraise, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
DebateGlobal
Sep 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
In 1 day!
@flatconnections
'Open House' Sept. 6
https://t.co/Ck6gnnq6Pj
#globaled17
#Intled
#ISTEGlobalPLN
#edutweetoz
#edtechchat
techtimj
Sep 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
Yes, unfortunately. It sends the wrong message about the article.
#edtechchat
In reply to @JudyArzt, @teachermrskhan
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
Q2: Do you think
#edtech
companies have gone too far with some of their gimmicks for teachers?
#edtechchat
EdTechNerd
Sep 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
I strongly disagree…Using words and twisting them into an article that was not originally shared is not okay.
#edtechchat
In reply to @RafranzDavis
RoxanneDes4ges
Sep 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
A1: my first reaction was that this article was written about 7 years too late.
#edtechchat
Hypepraise
Sep 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
#edtechchat
Teachers need to be honest @ who they're working w/ & for liability purposes need to be clear @ the ramifications
In reply to @ajpodchaski
BeTheChnge
Sep 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
I was no longer using a tool I was ambassador of so I removed myself from the list. So yes!
#edtechchat
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:11 PM EDT
This is my problem. If you are an "ambassador," and find a better tool, Do you stop using the one you represent? I bet not.
#edtechchat
In reply to @teachermrskhan, @NovakLibTech
TheJLV
Sep 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
True.
#EdTechChat
In reply to @RoxanneDes4ges
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
I think there is something to how much time is put forth or time you put in to be an ambassador
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @DennisDill, @Hypepraise, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
CandiceColson
Sep 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
Love that term: death by packet! A horrible truth
#edtechchat
danibostick
Sep 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Sad when my children have to suffer through Death by Packet when they could experience so much more w/ the help of tech
#EdTechChat
In reply to @mrnesi
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2: I think when your
#swag
is cooler than your product, you might have a problem.
#edtechchat
MelroseCurricul
Sep 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A1: As educators, often because of limited resources we latch on to newest tech-perhaps we should be cautious ask lots of ?s
#edtechchat
LSpencerEdD
Sep 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
But when they demand brand loyalty through blog posts and documented usage, it can cross a line.
#edtechchat
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1: I also don't think there's anything wrong w someone becoming a pro at a tool, & the company supporting them to teach others
#edtechchat
mskkauffman
Sep 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
I had a feeling that the interviewer was not transparent, which seems more nefarious than conducting PD in your spare time!
#edtechchat
In reply to @teachintechgal, @EdTechNerd
EdTechNerd
Sep 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
If this was the original article topic shared, these two, and others would not have openly shared the amazing things they do
#edtechchat
In reply to @RafranzDavis
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
Yup! Google is proven. So many people jump on the ambassador programs of new, trendy tools. Hmm..wonder why they need you?
#edtechchat
In reply to @MRoarkPMP
RafranzDavis
Sep 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
You weren't even quoted. Did she twist your words? You can disagree all day dude but this is a highly inequitable practice
#edtechchat
In reply to @EdTechNerd
EricAfterSchool
Sep 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2: There's a lot of noise. One can just ignore it. What's good is that there is an explosion of new tools to choose from.
#edtechchat
heidijlh
Sep 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A1 Interesting correlation to pharma, although I know many Ts believed in the tech before promoting it.
#edtechchat
https://t.co/sG0UxZjAYn
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Q1: What was your first reaction to reading the article? If you felt strongly, what was it that got you?
#edtechchat
CraftingHeroes
Sep 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
At the same time if you are truly in it for the best outcome you are teaching skills not just tools.
#edtechchat
In reply to @sadieclorinda, @teachermrskhan, @NovakLibTech
brynmw
Sep 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
I would hope that we are in it for our students. If you aren't, maybe become full time tech company employee.
#EdTechChat
In reply to @NovakLibTech, @sadieclorinda, @teachermrskhan
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
The problem is some teachers are more swayed by swag at
#ISTE
than they are programs they use. We need to fix that
#edtechchat
In reply to @Rdene915
JaneViccellio
Sep 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
Article made it seem that tech savvy teachers are only in it for the payoff.
#edtechchat
#edt5334
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2 you mean like the gaggle party?
#edtechchat
@teachintechgal
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @teachintechgal
Hypepraise
Sep 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
#edtechchat
also made me think we have beverage and athletic companies in our schools why not Ed Tech companies
In reply to @ajpodchaski
EdTechNerd
Sep 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
This also comes down to being an ethical reporter
#edtechchat
In reply to @RafranzDavis
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
Great insight. I wish
@natashanyt
was joining in the conversation tonight...
#edtechchat
In reply to @EdTechNerd, @natashanyt
kobriengcs
Sep 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
& how much of the school's time you put forth to be an ambassador
#edtechchat
In reply to @nathan_stevens, @ajpodchaski, @DennisDill, @Hypepraise, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
One of my frustrations from the
#edtech
company side, is how most review/ranking/award sites charge companies to be included.
#edtechchat
In reply to @sadieclorinda, @teachermrskhan, @NovakLibTech
Call_Me_Doyle
Sep 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
That distinction is nebulous at best--and teachers fool themselves. We all do.
#edtechchat
In reply to @momma_miller80
NovakLibTech
Sep 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2: Maybe it makes the companies continue to be competitive. Find a new tool, forces the other company to keep up.
#edtechchat
techtimj
Sep 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2: Hard to generalize. Article singled out a few
#edtech
products. Many left out that cannot offer those kinds of "perks"
#edtechchat
TheJLV
Sep 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2: Without question. And it’s even more perilous in our most vulnerable schools.
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
Q2: Do you think
#edtech
companies have gone too far with some of their gimmicks for teachers?
#edtechchat
MsCaturano
Sep 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2: Edtech companies are just that. Maybe I've read too many dystopian texts, but I'm always so weary of companies profit is key
#edtechchat
chadw675
Sep 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2: Any different than textbook vendors giving freebies? It's the world our Ss live in & we must expose Ss to tech in + way
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
Q2: Do you think
#edtech
companies have gone too far with some of their gimmicks for teachers?
#edtechchat
DennisDill
Sep 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
I honestly don't care what products you pitch ... i do want to know if you're biased in your recommendation.
#edtechchat
commercialfree
Sep 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Overwhelming evidence that doctors are influenced by pharma wooing & premiums. Why would educators be different?
#edtechchat
NovakLibTech
Sep 4 @ 8:11 PM EDT
you wouldn't be an ambassador for a product you didn't believe in
#edtechchat
MelroseCurricul
Sep 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Q2: They likely have, as educators we must be more cognizant of the role we play in promotion of these products we use with Ss
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
Q2: Do you think
#edtech
companies have gone too far with some of their gimmicks for teachers?
#edtechchat
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2:Some
#edtech
companies push it, but it’s on Ts to remain ethical-certified that you know tools benefits Ss, Ts, & school
#EdTechChat
In reply to @ajpodchaski
RafranzDavis
Sep 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
She went where the responses took her and this has been a year of reporting in the making
#edtechchat
In reply to @EdTechNerd
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
The whole system (right now) starts so biased. It's really hard to find honest opinions.
#edtechchat
In reply to @sadieclorinda, @teachermrskhan, @NovakLibTech
danibostick
Sep 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Also, technology should support the existing standards & objectives.
#EdTechChat
In reply to @brynmw, @NovakLibTech, @sadieclorinda, @teachermrskhan
jessxbo
Sep 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Ok not lurking.. A1: the article made me feel really sad. I know far too many edtech teachers that only have Ss interest in mind.
#edtechchat
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2 I am all about t-shirts and stickers
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski
teachermrskhan
Sep 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2 it's a sign of the times. Companies are desperate for business and teachers are desperate for tech.
#edtechchat
EdTechNerd
Sep 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
100% agree…transparency is so important
#edtechchat
In reply to @DennisDill
ELanghorst
Sep 4 @ 8:16 PM EDT
the 3D printer is not given to the teacher as a gift as part of the ambassador program - it is property of the school
#edtechchat
In reply to @nathan_stevens, @DennisDill, @Hypepraise, @ajpodchaski, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:16 PM EDT
BUT the article calls into question the motivation from some companies and how they compensate Ts for their time and support
#edtechchat
In reply to @NovakLibTech
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:16 PM EDT
And tech changes so quickly, a glowing comment from even a year ago may not apply to the current product.
#edtechchat
In reply to @sadieclorinda, @teachermrskhan, @NovakLibTech
RoxanneDes4ges
Sep 4 @ 8:16 PM EDT
Q2: The abuse goes both ways. Influencers use companies to make a name for themselves - outcome of mixing money and education.
#edtechchat
danibostick
Sep 4 @ 8:16 PM EDT
I think if we use a doctor's analogy, it would be more accurate to think of maybe branded waiting room chairs, not meds.
#EdTechChat
In reply to @heidijlh
JudyArzt
Sep 4 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A1: Also, teachers need to be sure to check their district's policies, as well as other legal policies, re: endorsing products
#edtechchat
upahk
Sep 4 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A2: When you're making an instructional choice in the classroom for a free t-shirt or gift card, you know it has gone too far
#edtechchat
RafranzDavis
Sep 4 @ 8:16 PM EDT
You're not even in the classroom anymore Bryan. You work for an edtech company. Let's be real about school ethics
#edtechchat
In reply to @EdTechNerd
NovakLibTech
Sep 4 @ 8:16 PM EDT
Absolutely! Integrate, not just a tool for tech sake
#edtechchat
In reply to @danibostick, @brynmw, @NovakLibTech, @sadieclorinda, @teachermrskhan
teachermrskhan
Sep 4 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A2 depends on if companies are forcing educators to sign exclusive agreements as well, that would be going too far.
#edtechchat
EdTechNerd
Sep 4 @ 8:16 PM EDT
Do you feel Ts should be awarded for the work they do?
#edtechchat
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:16 PM EDT
BUT the article calls into question the motivation from some companies and how they compensate Ts for their time and support
#edtechchat
In reply to @NovakLibTech
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:16 PM EDT
But when the school benefits and encourages the relationship, and something goes awry, who is left on the hook?
#edtechchat
In reply to @Hypepraise
brynmw
Sep 4 @ 8:16 PM EDT
It's tricky, though, if there's a catch in the technology presented. Students should be digital leaders, not google followers
#EdTechChat
In reply to @danibostick, @mrnesi
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:16 PM EDT
For dremel that is true. But some goes to the person
#edtechchat
In reply to @ELanghorst, @DennisDill, @Hypepraise, @ajpodchaski, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
Hypepraise
Sep 4 @ 8:16 PM EDT
#edtechchat
think that's the bigger issue that many will have are Ts peddling or are they teaching
In reply to @kobriengcs, @nathan_stevens, @ajpodchaski, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A2: Oh my goodness YES! The vendor hall at ISTE makes me cringe. I don't need a free Tshirt, I need you to protect my Ss data.
#edtechchat
teachintechgal
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:16 PM EDT
Awe it was always fun:)
#edtechchat
In reply to @nathan_stevens, @ajpodchaski
JaneViccellio
Sep 4 @ 8:16 PM EDT
I've used seesaw for years and haven't even thought about swag.
#edt5334
#edtechchat
In reply to @Rdene915, @ajpodchaski
jessxbo
Sep 4 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A1(b): Kayla's class IS my class. I'm constantly researching how to best help my Ss. This article made me feel ashamed by that..
#edtechchat
RafranzDavis
Sep 4 @ 8:17 PM EDT
People's inability to see beyond their privilege is frightening.
#edtechchat
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:17 PM EDT
If teachers are using a product for sway= they stink, but taking pride in knowing you innovate with
#edtech
is valuable
#EdTechChat
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @Rdene915
brynmw
Sep 4 @ 8:17 PM EDT
But I also have a problem with that. For me, tech companies provide more than beverage companies....
#EdTechChat
In reply to @Hypepraise, @ajpodchaski
Scott_Gregory12
Sep 4 @ 8:17 PM EDT
I'd want to know what research says it's effective.
#edtechchat
DennisDill
Sep 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
I honestly don't care what products you pitch ... i do want to know if you're biased in your recommendation.
#edtechchat
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:17 PM EDT
Many will. I'm always shocked/disappointed # of Ts more interested in apps that keep Ss busy vs learning.
#edtechchat
#behaviourmanagement
In reply to @NovakLibTech
ELanghorst
Sep 4 @ 8:17 PM EDT
yes, referencing the 3D printer since in a comment earlier in the thread mentioned it specifically (ie $1300)
#edtechchat
In reply to @nathan_stevens, @DennisDill, @Hypepraise, @ajpodchaski, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
EdTechNerd
Sep 4 @ 8:17 PM EDT
I’m more in the classroom now than I ever had the opportunity 2 b as an administrator.I spend more time with Ts and Ss than most
#edtechchat
In reply to @RafranzDavis
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:17 PM EDT
The main difference for
#edtech
is that most teachers are using the product before they become and ambassador or get cert
#edtechchat
In reply to @heidijlh
mrs_awalsh
Sep 4 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2: There are many companies that are doing similar things for the classroom, it is difficult to determine which are the best.
#edtechchat
ebrown0789
Sep 4 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2: yes, giving the product itself for free should be enough to promote it
#edtechchat
DennisDill
Sep 4 @ 8:17 PM EDT
If it sits in my room it is mine (school may own) but it is mine
#edtechchat
In reply to @nathan_stevens, @ELanghorst, @Hypepraise, @ajpodchaski, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
MrTKruse
Sep 4 @ 8:17 PM EDT
This sums up a good many edtech companies!
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski
Call_Me_Doyle
Sep 4 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Don't have to be a teacher on this issue--imagine lawyers or docs or plumbers or police in the same position.
#edtechchat
In reply to @momma_miller80
kobriengcs
Sep 4 @ 8:18 PM EDT
A2: Companies do what they need to make $$ when wooing influencers (have u seen YT PR unboxings?)
#edtechchat
remikalir
Sep 4 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Read this
#edtechchat
if you're not questioning (your) white privilege, social status & capital in this convo... ugh
https://t.co/hvb337tpPn
remikalir
Sep 2 @ 9:47 AM EDT
This Times article "Silicon Valley Courts Brand-Name Teachers, Raising Ethics Issues" makes me want to vomit
https://t.co/pRpGYT5KXv
THREAD
drmcgettigan
Sep 4 @ 8:18 PM EDT
A2 I ❤️ companies like
@BookCreatorApp
-their ambassadors are sounding boards as they work to make the best LEARNING product
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
Q2: Do you think
#edtech
companies have gone too far with some of their gimmicks for teachers?
#edtechchat
RafranzDavis
Sep 4 @ 8:18 PM EDT
With a motive. You represent a company now. That is different work
#edtechchat
In reply to @EdTechNerd
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Awarded and applauded - yes! I wish there was a + way to earn $ w/o ? our ethics and motication
#edtechchat
In reply to @EdTechNerd
TheWeirdTeacher
Sep 4 @ 8:18 PM EDT
#edtechchat
A2 Yes, and it's making teachers into secret salespeople.
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
Q2: Do you think
#edtech
companies have gone too far with some of their gimmicks for teachers?
#edtechchat
danibostick
Sep 4 @ 8:18 PM EDT
A2: If teachers value gimmicks over the standards, objectives, & students, the problem is not the tech company
#EdTechChat
In reply to @ajpodchaski
TheJLV
Sep 4 @ 8:18 PM EDT
A2: YES, which is the equivalent of calling yourself a teacher even after having left the classroom years ago … while selling.
#edtechchat
RoxanneDes4ges
Sep 4 @ 8:16 PM EDT
Q2: The abuse goes both ways. Influencers use companies to make a name for themselves - outcome of mixing money and education.
#edtechchat
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:18 PM EDT
A2 companies should pursue awesome people that use their product instead of hey do this and that
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Isn't keeping your job, having a paycheck, watching Ss succeed the reward for your work?
#edtechchat
Not sure free software counts...
In reply to @EdTechNerd
NovakLibTech
Sep 4 @ 8:18 PM EDT
"Drops the mic"
#edtechchat
In reply to @danibostick, @ajpodchaski
MRoarkPMP
Sep 4 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Not even speaking about Google as a platform. If you pay for a cert and pass test, Google, MS, Cisco, etc.,you earn that.
#edtechchat
In reply to @sadieclorinda
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:19 PM EDT
Yes, it was a very cynical portrayal even when the main T said she takes no pay and puts it through the lens of ‘Do Ss benefit?”
#EdTechChat
In reply to @JaneViccellio
RoxanneDes4ges
Sep 4 @ 8:19 PM EDT
A2: Edtech companies are desperate for growth. Education wasn't designed to be a market place, but we're trying to make it one.
#edtechchat
mrs_awalsh
Sep 4 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@nathan_stevens
I totally agree!!
#edtechchat
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:19 PM EDT
A1: I hate the term "Teacher Influencers." Your job is to influence your kids, not be an Edu-Celeb...
#edtechchat
kobriengcs
Sep 4 @ 8:19 PM EDT
But it feels scummy when the products are being used on children. Are Ts exploiting Ss for gains in the name of helping them?
#edtechchat
danibostick
Sep 4 @ 8:19 PM EDT
Or, it might just help save time for something you're already doing. Efficiency is valid as well.
#EdTechChat
In reply to @Scott_Gregory12
DennisDill
Sep 4 @ 8:19 PM EDT
research can be unreliable in many Ed circumstances ... i have 20+ individual learners and research may apply to 1/2
#edtechchat
In reply to @Scott_Gregory12
EdTechNerd
Sep 4 @ 8:19 PM EDT
I have no other motive than to support Ts and Ss in what they do. I don’t sell and I am always an educator first
#edtechchat
In reply to @RafranzDavis
mr_payne_tech
Sep 4 @ 8:19 PM EDT
Tracy from California joining a chat for the first time
#edtechchat
TheTechRabbi
Sep 4 @ 8:19 PM EDT
Not just that but many must use in a significant way. To put forth all that effort for some merch is insulting to Ts.
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @heidijlh
AlexVKluge
Sep 4 @ 8:19 PM EDT
A2 It really depends on the company, most are probably fine. But some are better at marketing then delivering impact.
#EdTechChat
In reply to @TheJLV
DavidKnuffke
Sep 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
I'm not clear why "don't be a shill" is controversial for some educators
#edtechchat
TheWeirdTeacher
Sep 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
#edtechchat
A2 Companies can say they're "in it for the kids growth" all they want. There a bottom line and that's what's important first.
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A2 - Some, for sure. But, it's also hard to get noticed in the every increasing field. What are good alternatives?
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
Q2: Do you think
#edtech
companies have gone too far with some of their gimmicks for teachers?
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
So all teachers should stop selling their work on Teachers pay teacehrs too? Same thing
#edtechchat
actually bigger issue IMO
In reply to @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @nathan_stevens, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
JaneViccellio
Sep 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
I didn't like the final bit about the boutique clothing said teacher if she promotes their brand.
#edtechchat
#edt5334
In reply to @mrnesi, @NovakLibTech
karenvaites
Sep 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
I'd hate to see ed's shy away from collab. w K12 product orgs in wake of article. Continuous improvement via feedback = key
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @DennisDill, @nathan_stevens, @Hypepraise, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
kobriengcs
Sep 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
Right? The term shocked me at first, but it's so true, just like IG & YT influencers.
#edtechchat
In reply to @sadieclorinda
Hypepraise
Sep 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
#edtechchat
the article talks about the printer being in the teacher's home which gives a different impression
In reply to @ELanghorst, @nathan_stevens, @DennisDill, @ajpodchaski, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
EdTechNerd
Sep 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
I totally agree…it’s so hard with all districts having different policies. I wish there was a way to standardize
#edtechchat
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Awarded and applauded - yes! I wish there was a + way to earn $ w/o ? our ethics and motication
#edtechchat
In reply to @EdTechNerd
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
Many districts have laws preventing former Ts from interacting with their former district for a year after leaving
#EdTechChat
In reply to @TheJLV
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
#edtechchat
If we look at all the good these tech ambassadors do , it far outways any sp called abuse that is claimed.
CraftingHeroes
Sep 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
How do you get people to try the products initially to get the research bed you need to prove effectiveness?
#edtechchat
In reply to @Scott_Gregory12
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
Agree. I think part of the "You need to pay for the test" comes from them being a proven platform. I'm not paying for Kahoot...
#edtechchat
In reply to @MRoarkPMP
MRoarkPMP
Sep 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
If donated to the school, the appropriate paperwork should be filed. Public servants can't accept gifts over certain amount.
#edtechchat
In reply to @ELanghorst, @nathan_stevens, @DennisDill, @Hypepraise, @ajpodchaski, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
And I think this is how most teacehrs feel!
#edtechchat
JaneViccellio
Sep 4 @ 8:16 PM EDT
I've used seesaw for years and haven't even thought about swag.
#edt5334
#edtechchat
In reply to @Rdene915, @ajpodchaski
NovakLibTech
Sep 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
Yeah, I felt that took it a little too far. Then again if you like the clothes...
#edtechchat
In reply to @JaneViccellio, @mrnesi, @NovakLibTech
kobriengcs
Sep 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
I've def been rec'd a tool in a chat only to see later the T is paid to promote that tool. Makes me trust it less.
#edtechchat
In reply to @sadieclorinda
TheJLV
Sep 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
Yes, but the question is whether they’ve gone too far, and yes, they have.
#edtechchat
In reply to @AlexVKluge
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
@GoEnnounce
&
@meghancdavis
on
@HouseofEdTech
62 (
https://t.co/m8PMkOexvQ
) - BUT didn't take advantage bc I'm not a salesman
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:21 PM EDT
Q3 coming up in 1 minute…
#edtechchat
EdTechNerd
Sep 4 @ 8:21 PM EDT
Yes, it totally is the reward
#edtechchat
In reply to @MusingsOnEdTech
TheWeirdTeacher
Sep 4 @ 8:21 PM EDT
#edtechchat
So work with them sure, but keep in mind what we care about and what they do aren't the same thing.
mrs_payne_art
Sep 4 @ 8:21 PM EDT
Elisabeth from California joining a chat for the first time
#edtechchat
TheTechRabbi
Sep 4 @ 8:21 PM EDT
I have mixed feelings. Wish education would look seriously at how leadership and influences in other industries work.
#edtechchat
In reply to @sadieclorinda
RoxanneDes4ges
Sep 4 @ 8:21 PM EDT
A2: I was a teacher. Now I spend my time trying to help edtech startups grow the ethical way. It's harder, but it can be done.
#edtechchat
RafranzDavis
Sep 4 @ 8:21 PM EDT
I wish that you could see the line. You don't. I pray that one day you do
#edtechchat
In reply to @EdTechNerd
TheJLV
Sep 4 @ 8:21 PM EDT
Yes, but it doesn’t mean that there aren’t folks calling themselves teachers outside of their districts and still hustlin’.
#edtechchat
In reply to @seanmarnold
DennisDill
Sep 4 @ 8:21 PM EDT
I got some great
@ipevo
stuff while at FETC ... filled a need at my school where IWBs couldn't be installed
#NoGuilt
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:21 PM EDT
You already have tech companies in your school - you use their products and software, you just don't think of it that way
#edtechchat
In reply to @brynmw, @Hypepraise
Gregbagby
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:21 PM EDT
A2: Yes some have gone too far.
#EdTechChat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
Q2: Do you think
#edtech
companies have gone too far with some of their gimmicks for teachers?
#edtechchat
ELanghorst
Sep 4 @ 8:21 PM EDT
agreed, another aspect of the story which I thought was misrepresented
#edtechchat
Hypepraise
Sep 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
#edtechchat
the article talks about the printer being in the teacher's home which gives a different impression
In reply to @ELanghorst, @nathan_stevens, @DennisDill, @ajpodchaski, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
JaneViccellio
Sep 4 @ 8:21 PM EDT
YES and amen.
#edtechchat
#edt5334
In reply to @sadieclorinda
MRoarkPMP
Sep 4 @ 8:21 PM EDT
Boards/Cabinets need to be aware and update policies to match their aversion to risk on allowing this
#edtechchat
In reply to @JudyArzt
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:21 PM EDT
I would like to see evidence of that exploitation as all I have seen the benefits to ss learning.
#edtechchat
In reply to @kobriengcs
techtimj
Sep 4 @ 8:21 PM EDT
I agree, but I think the issue of T feedback to
#edtech
cos was lost in the T promotion aspect of the article
#edtechchat
In reply to @karenvaites, @ajpodchaski, @DennisDill, @nathan_stevens, @Hypepraise, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
danibostick
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
The Pinterestification of education is also a problem- trends & gimmicks too often trump evidence-based practices.
#EdTechChat
In reply to @TheJLV, @AlexVKluge
momma_miller80
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Anyone else having a hard time keeping up?
#edtechchat
#momproblems
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Q3: Does someone having a bias towards a product or service, as long as it is disclosed, bother you?
#edtechchat
TheTechRabbi
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
You can be an influencer, good person, and passionate about your craft. None are exclusive. Ego can pollute anything.
#edtechchat
In reply to @sadieclorinda
mrs_awalsh
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Often if you don't commit to a product after inquiring they will not leave you alone
#edtechchat
LSpencerEdD
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A2: companies that get you to sign up others for more freebies turn it into pyramid schemes and not student learning
#edtechchat
mskkauffman
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A2: Maybe some - but Ts are required to be smart and ethical. Most teachers do what they do for the good of their students
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
Q2: Do you think
#edtech
companies have gone too far with some of their gimmicks for teachers?
#edtechchat
NovakLibTech
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
I went to the ITEC conference last year and it was basically sponsored by their wireless. Same issue?
#edtechchat
BeTheChnge
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A2) I think we could all benefit from a district level convo on what's ok, what's grey and what's not ok
#edtechchat
kobriengcs
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Yep, I have similar mixed feelings about TPT
#edtechchat
In reply to @bigtechcoach, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @nathan_stevens, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
NovakLibTech
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Yes!
#edtechchat
In reply to @momma_miller80
onewheeljoe
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
T's have to help students and peers navigate cultural changes online and off. Commercial biases skew that responsibility
#edtechchat
brynmw
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Yes!!!!! It's a slippery slope to 'celebrity chef' for educators. We make a difference in our community.
#edtechchat
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:19 PM EDT
A1: I hate the term "Teacher Influencers." Your job is to influence your kids, not be an Edu-Celeb...
#edtechchat
Hypepraise
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
#edtechchat
oddly I see TPT as different its not a multi hundred dollar product that you are pushing but a lesson or a unit plan.
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @kobriengcs, @nathan_stevens, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
TheWeirdTeacher
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
#edtechchat
A3 See, it's the disclosure thing that doesn't happen. Everyone has bias. You can't not. Bias happens.
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Q3: Does someone having a bias towards a product or service, as long as it is disclosed, bother you?
#edtechchat
Randy_Speck
Sep 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
Bryan...I'm just kind of jumping in...was there an issue with the
@NYTimes
article?
#edtechchat
In reply to @EdTechNerd, @nytimes
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A3: I want HONEST opinions. IE how about a
@Flipgrid
ambassador provide a downside or (-) to
#FlipgridFever
#edtechchat
remikalir
Sep 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
The most critical voices I'm seeing in
#edtechchat
right now aren't white. The ppl forcefully defending the status quo are. That's a problem
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
Making edtech is such an internal struggle for me. I want kids to learn, be excited, and enjoy.
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A3: If they use it, I want their opinion. If not, I filter accordingly
#edtechchat
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
For me, I take photos in the over the shoulder at the product with a tag about what the student is doing, not product
#edtechchat
In reply to @techtimj, @karenvaites, @ajpodchaski, @DennisDill, @Hypepraise, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
Sneffleupagus
Sep 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
Many districts actually have clauses that prohibit teachers from selling on sites like TpT. T's do it anyway.
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @nathan_stevens, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
CandiceColson
Sep 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
Right! It's all the for the benefits of the student. What abuse could be claimed though?
#edtechchat
In reply to @jschwartzcen
teachemtothrive
Sep 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
Q2: We live in a capitalist economy, so I think we, as teachers, bear some of the responsibility to self-regulate.
#edtechchat
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
#edtechchat
A2 : I think it is finally about time that companies see ss and ts as worth investing in not bribing.
RafranzDavis
Sep 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
Yes. At the same token, teachers are unaware of influencer marketing practices. They see a "name" and believe it. Not ok
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
Q2: Do you think
#edtech
companies have gone too far with some of their gimmicks for teachers?
#edtechchat
DennisDill
Sep 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
Wait ... are tech companies manipulating us or are we manipulating them? I got a free couch from furniture store - are they bad
#edtechchat
techtimj
Sep 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A3: Bias towards products is rampant in edu. We as educators & decision makers need to be wise enough to see through it.
#edtechchat
TheWeirdTeacher
Sep 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
It's worse than thought leader, and that's impressive.
#edtechchat
In reply to @sadieclorinda
chadw675
Sep 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A3: Not as long as there is empirical evidence that their product or service is beneficial for kids!
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Q3: Does someone having a bias towards a product or service, as long as it is disclosed, bother you?
#edtechchat
ELanghorst
Sep 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
I have had unique lesson plans copied word for word and sold on TPT for hundreds of dollars....
#edtechchat
Hypepraise
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
#edtechchat
oddly I see TPT as different its not a multi hundred dollar product that you are pushing but a lesson or a unit plan.
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @kobriengcs, @nathan_stevens, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
TPT is a whole other issue...lol
#edtechchat
In reply to @Sneffleupagus, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @nathan_stevens, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
JudyArzt
Sep 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
Exactly, which is why educators/teachers need to check the legal policies in place
#edtechchat
In reply to @MRoarkPMP, @ELanghorst, @nathan_stevens, @DennisDill, @Hypepraise, @ajpodchaski, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
upahk
Sep 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A3: It bothers me more when teachers deny having a bias about anything at all, products or otherwise
#edtechchat
AlexVKluge
Sep 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
Sharing best practices and success stories, as well as tails of failure, are important to enrich the community.
#EdTechChat
In reply to @brynmw
Media_Barber
Sep 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A1. I was jealous & have to question dress shop
https://t.co/XKnUO6Ty5v
do race & economics play a part of who
#edtech
co. help?
#edtechchat
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Yep! Many districts OWN anything you create in your role as an employee
#edtechchat
Sneffleupagus
Sep 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
Many districts actually have clauses that prohibit teachers from selling on sites like TpT. T's do it anyway.
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @nathan_stevens, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
onewheeljoe
Sep 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
T's responsibility goes deeper than consumer reports. Advocating for expensive tools has ethical equity implications.
#edtechchat
MRoarkPMP
Sep 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Trials are acceptable. Gifts without the proper paperwork are not.
#edtechchat
In reply to @CraftingHeroes, @Scott_Gregory12
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A good product will find the market, you just have to find people to try it - no bribes necessary
#edtechchat
In reply to @MusingsOnEdTech
Sneffleupagus
Sep 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
It may not be phrased that way. May be more along the lines of anything teacher-created automatically belonging to the district.
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @nathan_stevens, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
teachermrskhan
Sep 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A3 yes it does bother me, no matter how much they deny it I feel like they can't be objective.
#edtechchat
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
I also didn’t like use of the term influencer, but influencing Ss & other Ts and schools to improve practice is what good Ts do
#edtechchat
In reply to @sadieclorinda
drmcgettigan
Sep 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
This.
#edtechchat
In reply to @sadieclorinda
techtimj
Sep 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A3: Bias towards products & services can also be mitigated through collaborative purchasing decisions
#edtechchat
jessxbo
Sep 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Agreed! I've searched out ambassadorships for companies I already use/fully support. I want to be able to share my excitement
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @heidijlh
NovakLibTech
Sep 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A3: I'm always willing to try a new
#techtool
. But if it doesn't work for me I quit using it
#edtechchat
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Charging Ts and schools seems against my philosophy of great education for all. But I also need to eat, have shelter...
#edtechchat
danibostick
Sep 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A3L If the T is student-focused, no. I am more bothered by stagnant teachers who transform their subjects into drudgery
#EdTechChat
In reply to @ajpodchaski
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Word
#edtechchat
In reply to @mrnesi, @Sneffleupagus, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
EricAfterSchool
Sep 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A3: Yes, if that bias affects Ss experience. But mostly we're talking about "I like this polling app more than that one."
#edtechchat
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
#edtechchat
A3: What matters to me is that they declare their bias and then I can decide for myself if their app is worth using.
JaneViccellio
Sep 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Felt a little celeb to me too. But, I also commend the teacher for being creative.
#edtechchat
#edt5334
In reply to @sadieclorinda
brynmw
Sep 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A3: it depends on why then bias. If it can be explained to improve student learning, no problem. If it's about pay cheque. No.
#edtechchat
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
#edtech
companies totally take advantage. Educators need $ resources not stickers and t-shirts and badges, don't forget badges
#edtechchat
In reply to @DennisDill
Scott_Gregory12
Sep 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Right. Promote based on research, not what is a glorified overhead projector that rocks your senses.
#edtechchat
techtimj
Sep 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A3: Bias towards products is rampant in edu. We as educators & decision makers need to be wise enough to see through it.
#edtechchat
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:25 PM EDT
My point, it's not easy for all Ts or all
#edtech
companies to deal with this internal conflict.
#edtechchat
kylelaurie
Sep 4 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A3: I recommend products that I like, but I don't get free stuff...I just like it. If you are a vendor you better let me know.
#edtechchat
MRoarkPMP
Sep 4 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A2)I don't think the EdTech companies have went too far, it's the lack of enforcement for law on the District/Admin/Site side
#edtechchat
kobriengcs
Sep 4 @ 8:25 PM EDT
If Ss R testing a product for a company in the classroom (like focus group) but Ps don't know the T is paid, feels exploitative
#edtechchat
In reply to @jschwartzcen
mrs_awalsh
Sep 4 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A3: I tend to try things that I have read or seen others try first. I will then take it and see how it works for my students.
#edtechchat
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:25 PM EDT
I don’t know any T who would use anything that they didn’t believe helped kids regardless of ‘swag’ or a moment on morning tv
#EdTechChat
In reply to @jessxbo, @ajpodchaski, @heidijlh
TheWeirdTeacher
Sep 4 @ 8:25 PM EDT
#edtechchat
This teacher influencer stuff takes the focus off the learning and puts it on the tool, and the product too.
DennisDill
Sep 4 @ 8:25 PM EDT
As Eds, we do have to understand we influence kids ... parents ... other teachers ... that is a responsibility
#edtechchat
kobriengcs
Sep 4 @ 8:25 PM EDT
even if it benefits student learning, Ps should still consent to it. If they do, great
#edtechchat
In reply to @jschwartzcen
RafranzDavis
Sep 4 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A3 That's the thing. Disclose!!! People trust people who they believe are trustworthy. Not disclosing is problematic
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Q3: Does someone having a bias towards a product or service, as long as it is disclosed, bother you?
#edtechchat
drmcgettigan
Sep 4 @ 8:25 PM EDT
What interests me is that product purchases were heavily influenced by IT Directors vs educators-that trend is changing
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
The dremel program allowed individuals and schools to compete for the ambassador - all within the rules
#edtechchat
In reply to @Hypepraise, @ELanghorst, @nathan_stevens, @DennisDill, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
JaneViccellio
Sep 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
Cute often trumps depth. Totally hear you.
#edtechchat
#edt5334
In reply to @danibostick, @TheJLV, @AlexVKluge
JudyArzt
Sep 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
Yet, how often are these district level policies being read and discussed
#edtechchat
In reply to @BeTheChnge
ShanaVWhite
Sep 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
This is me enjoying the discourse of
#edtechchat
right now.
RoxanneDes4ges
Sep 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A3: Edtech companies need to stop depending on influencer marketing and start showing evidence of impact on learning.
#EdTechChat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
welcome back Chris - so are a lot of people :)
#edtechchat
In reply to @mrnesi, @HouseofEdTech
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
I have my fingers crossed for this. I like to believe it's true, but seen so many good products fail. (edtech and not).
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A3 from my feed, I think people know I 💜
@Tinkercad
and
@sarahoking76
I use their product and push it
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @tinkercad, @sarahoking76
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
With all tech you must first make sure that it is best tool for the particular learning situation. There is no one perfect tool.
#edtechchat
In reply to @mrnesi, @Flipgrid
DavidKnuffke
Sep 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
I don't know anyone who feels like advertisements affect their purchasing habits, but they do.
#edtechchat
In reply to @seanmarnold, @jessxbo, @ajpodchaski, @heidijlh
MrDpasion
Sep 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
Uhhh ... me too!
#edtechchat
ShanaVWhite
Sep 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
This is me enjoying the discourse of
#edtechchat
right now.
audreywatters
Sep 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
does anyone in
#edtechchat
ever address racism, structural inequalities, and ed-tech celebrity or nah
DennisDill
Sep 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
When I say "I love my Mac" it influences kids ... but I am not a paid spokesperson, but I play one on TV (JK being sassy)
#edtechchat
CandiceColson
Sep 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
Exactly!
#edtechchat
In reply to @NovakLibTech
Gregbagby
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
I think an ambassador program is great for smaller startups.
#edtechchat
In reply to @kobriengcs, @bigtechcoach, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @nathan_stevens, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
ELanghorst
Sep 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
grouping all ambassador programs together & treating them the same does not address the issue - many unique circumstances
#edtechchat
mr_payne_tech
Sep 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
Went to Cue last year and received IPEVO camera & whiteboard system free. dont think it effects the students. not selling 2 them
#edtechchat
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
Oh yeah, there are
#edtech
reps touting their 2 years teaching K as 'I know your issues’ -I laugh-they don’t known my Ss
#edtechchat
In reply to @TheJLV
Media_Barber
Sep 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
A3. Everyone has bias. When does effect Ss? When you put your bias 1st
#edtechchat
EdTechNerd
Sep 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
Completely agree….full disclosure of any form of award given is the MOST important ethical thing to do - influencer or not
#edtechchat
In reply to @RafranzDavis
kobriengcs
Sep 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
A3: Disclosure is the key. Tell Ps, tell Ss, tell Ts that you rec things to, etc.
#edtechchat
ebrown0789
Sep 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
A3: No, if I don't know the person extensively I take all opinions on edtech with a grain of salt anyways; I'm very particular
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Q3: Does someone having a bias towards a product or service, as long as it is disclosed, bother you?
#edtechchat
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
From my own site
#edtechchat
RoxanneDes4ges
Sep 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
A3: If they had evidence of impact, edtech companies wouldn't need influencers.
#EdTechChat
heidijlh
Sep 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
But can Ts afford these products? Would a school support a T to buy a digital printer if a T thought it could help Ss?
#edtechchat
In reply to @MusingsOnEdTech, @EdTechNerd
AlexVKluge
Sep 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
trends & gimmicks too often trump evidence-based practices. I am saying this is a line, and there are companies on both sides.
#EdTechChat
In reply to @danibostick, @TheJLV
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
Why? Don't teachers own their lesson plans? (prelude to question 4) :)
#edtechchat
In reply to @Sneffleupagus, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @nathan_stevens, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
MRoarkPMP
Sep 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
A3)No, I've always had an internal bias, even as a TechConsultant|Separate from that & make ethical decisions on what is best.
#edtechchat
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
I wasn't sure, so I emailed my HR guy to check. In this case, easier to ask permission than forgiveness :)
#edtechchat
JudyArzt
Sep 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
Yet, how often are these district level policies being read and discussed
#edtechchat
In reply to @BeTheChnge
TheWeirdTeacher
Sep 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
#edtechchat
This is about people who get paid for it.
In reply to @DennisDill
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
Yeah if you have four ambassadors but don't have a billion of them
#edtechchat
In reply to @Gregbagby, @kobriengcs, @bigtechcoach, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
BeTheChnge
Sep 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
I agree. Why is getting teacher voice and input to make a product for students better a bad thing?
#EdTechChat
drmcgettigan
Sep 4 @ 8:18 PM EDT
A2 I ❤️ companies like
@BookCreatorApp
-their ambassadors are sounding boards as they work to make the best LEARNING product
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
Q2: Do you think
#edtech
companies have gone too far with some of their gimmicks for teachers?
#edtechchat
woody_cindy
Sep 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
Hey,
#Edtechchat
! Looking for some fresh ideas? Join us on
#EdPiper
at 9PM CST tonight. Best of the best ideas for digital leadership!
chrisjcluff
Sep 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
A3 curious whats ratio of newedtech penetration from system vs Ts level? In ur jurisdiction do Ts hav direct purchasepower?
#edtechchat
librarianerd
Sep 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
Sincerely, if it felt accusatory and "wrong," how much have we sat with why? There is opportunity for self-reflection here.
#edtechchat
In reply to @chadw675, @mskkauffman
karenvaites
Sep 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
Absolutely lost! But folks reacted strongly to article; I wonder if new barriers will form and baby will be lost w bathwater.
#edtechchat
In reply to @techtimj, @ajpodchaski, @DennisDill, @nathan_stevens, @Hypepraise, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
wfryer
Sep 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
#edtechchat
A3 We all have biases but they need to be openly disclosed if receiving renumeration. Need to know & follow relevant laws...
CatherineKU72
Sep 4 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A3
#edtechchat
When teacher tells us that our sts aren't learning as well if we aren't using their product or if we offer different ideas.
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:28 PM EDT
Nope. Check your contract
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @Sneffleupagus, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
Gregbagby
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:28 PM EDT
Larger companies can have their programs and the trainings, but I not require the time after as some do w/o compensation
#edtechchat
In reply to @kobriengcs, @bigtechcoach, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @nathan_stevens, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
DavidKnuffke
Sep 4 @ 8:28 PM EDT
I'm adding "teacher influencer" to my list of banned terms. It's a pejorative to me.
#edtechchat
In reply to @TheWeirdTeacher
commercialfree
Sep 4 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A3: Schools are for education, not marketing. And disclosure is meaningless for children.
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Q3: Does someone having a bias towards a product or service, as long as it is disclosed, bother you?
#edtechchat
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A3 - I will discount their view based on their bias. When we invest time/energy into something we'll discount negatives.
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Q3: Does someone having a bias towards a product or service, as long as it is disclosed, bother you?
#edtechchat
kobriengcs
Sep 4 @ 8:28 PM EDT
That's where I think this gets sticky. How many Ts would accept deals bc they know the school doesn't have $$ for it otherwise?
#edtechchat
In reply to @heidijlh, @MusingsOnEdTech, @EdTechNerd
wfryer
Sep 4 @ 8:28 PM EDT
I agree
#edtechchat
In reply to @ELanghorst
MrTKruse
Sep 4 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A3: No because disclosure is the important thing! Everyone is biased... There is no "objective."
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Q3: Does someone having a bias towards a product or service, as long as it is disclosed, bother you?
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:28 PM EDT
Anythng? Try Everything!
#edtechchat
In reply to @Sneffleupagus, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @nathan_stevens, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
mrs_awalsh
Sep 4 @ 8:28 PM EDT
Our needs are all different as well so there is no one size fits all.
#edtechchat
TheJLV
Sep 4 @ 8:28 PM EDT
Race, class, gender influence a lot of the perceptions we have about “teacher influencers.”
#edtechchat
Media_Barber
Sep 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A1. I was jealous & have to question dress shop
https://t.co/XKnUO6Ty5v
do race & economics play a part of who
#edtech
co. help?
#edtechchat
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:28 PM EDT
When I say "I love Justin Timberlake" I HOPE it influences them. And I would love to be a paid spokesperson. Same thing? No...?
#edtechchat
In reply to @TheWeirdTeacher, @DennisDill
JudyArzt
Sep 4 @ 8:28 PM EDT
Another case in point where the teacher has not read the policy or has & has not abided. Any consequences?
#edtechchat
In reply to @Sneffleupagus, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @nathan_stevens, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
mrs_payne_art
Sep 4 @ 8:28 PM EDT
Any product the students learn on could possibly influence them as consumers
#edtechchat
kobriengcs
Sep 4 @ 8:29 PM EDT
Are there schools out there encouraging Ts to seek out these deals? Would be interesting to know.
#edtechchat
In reply to @heidijlh, @MusingsOnEdTech, @EdTechNerd
Scott_Gregory12
Sep 4 @ 8:29 PM EDT
Yes-and if they were honest, they would cite research more. Esp. Reading comp.
#edtechchat
AlexVKluge
Sep 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
trends & gimmicks too often trump evidence-based practices. I am saying this is a line, and there are companies on both sides.
#EdTechChat
In reply to @danibostick, @TheJLV
RafranzDavis
Sep 4 @ 8:29 PM EDT
This thread is what you are ALL missing
#edtechchat
CrownVictoria22
Sep 3 @ 9:02 AM EDT
So, immediately upon reading this I see how this brand of teaching will marginalize Black & Brown children/teachers
https://t.co/XBb4hjaxEV
MelroseCurricul
Sep 4 @ 8:29 PM EDT
A3: I think we are asking the wrong ?, what is our goal, and instead what is the best tool/tech for Ss to reach those goals
#edtechchat
JaneViccellio
Sep 4 @ 8:29 PM EDT
And sometimes tech is just tech and not the right tool.
#edtechchat
#edt5334
In reply to @jschwartzcen, @mrnesi, @Flipgrid
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:29 PM EDT
But do you need to be an ambassador to do that? I praise a lot of companies but don't have any official relationship
#edtechchat
In reply to @jessxbo, @heidijlh
lauranbowman
Sep 4 @ 8:29 PM EDT
Parent POV here: EdTech products gather data on students. Little informed consent by parents when their kids use these products.
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski
danibostick
Sep 4 @ 8:29 PM EDT
Which is why "Apple" or "Google" in a title could actually provide transparency- reveals what suite of products the T embraces.
#EdTechChat
In reply to @RafranzDavis
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:29 PM EDT
As with all tools, ps must know the facts and benefits. That falls upon admin and ts to be upfront.
#edtechchat
In reply to @kobriengcs
DennisDill
Sep 4 @ 8:29 PM EDT
ugh ... at least it isn't Bieber
#edtechchat
In reply to @sadieclorinda, @TheWeirdTeacher
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:29 PM EDT
$ for my classroom is different than $ for my time.
#edtechchat
In reply to @bigtechcoach, @DennisDill
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:29 PM EDT
A3:I have a bias toward tech that help Ss best-we all should-
@AppleEDU
for
#accessibility
or
@GoogleForEdu
for collaboration
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @AppleEDU, @GoogleForEdu
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:29 PM EDT
I was talking if you were a startup
#edtechchat
In reply to @bigtechcoach
DavidKnuffke
Sep 4 @ 8:29 PM EDT
This seems to suggest parity between acknowledged and unacknowledged bias. Dangerous, IMO.
#EdTechChat
In reply to @MrTKruse
MRoarkPMP
Sep 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
It's not the bias that's the issue, it's the renumeration.
#edtechchat
In reply to @wfryer
wfryer
Sep 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Higher $$$ donations can be accepted on the part of the school
#edtechchat
In reply to @heidijlh, @MusingsOnEdTech, @EdTechNerd
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
THIS!! When someone throws new tools at you at a conference, do you ask them about data privacy? Can they answer...?
#edtechchat
lauranbowman
Sep 4 @ 8:29 PM EDT
Parent POV here: EdTech products gather data on students. Little informed consent by parents when their kids use these products.
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski
JudyArzt
Sep 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
But does the teacher really know if the digital printer will advance student learning or is it a hunch?
#edtechchat
In reply to @heidijlh, @MusingsOnEdTech, @EdTechNerd
mskkauffman
Sep 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A3: We all have biases, no matter who we are and no matter what we are talking about. Disclosure is key
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Q3: Does someone having a bias towards a product or service, as long as it is disclosed, bother you?
#edtechchat
xianb8
Sep 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A3: Yes, generally, and also, it must be part of our jobs to defend students, esp SoC FROM those same companies.
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Q3: Does someone having a bias towards a product or service, as long as it is disclosed, bother you?
#edtechchat
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Yes, sometimes old fashioned pencil and pap er is the best tool .
#edtechchat
In reply to @JaneViccellio, @mrnesi, @Flipgrid
TheTechRabbi
Sep 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Pretty shocked at some of the the criticism here. If companies don't have influencers how do they tie to pedagogy & standards?
#edtechchat
MrSchoenbart
Sep 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A3: We all have biases, we're just not always transparent / honest about them. Share away, but don't put it before Ss & learning
#edtechchat
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
This goes back to funding issues. Not sure
#edtech
freebies are the right solution. As it allows funding problems to continue.
#edtechchat
In reply to @heidijlh, @EdTechNerd
AlexVKluge
Sep 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Keeping a feedback mechanism in place is important. So is a meta feedback loop about the quality and motivations for feedback :)
#EdTechChat
In reply to @karenvaites, @techtimj, @ajpodchaski, @DennisDill, @nathan_stevens, @Hypepraise, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @thomascmurray
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
How dare you even compare the two...
#edtechchat
In reply to @DennisDill, @TheWeirdTeacher
RafranzDavis
Sep 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
I don't know about that. There are quite a few of us who embrace all products. I have zero brand loyalty...period
#edtechchat
In reply to @danibostick
librarianerd
Sep 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
What is changing that? How are ed tech companies incentivizing Ts to buy? Not saying Ts deciding is wrong, but process matters.
#edtechchat
In reply to @drmcgettigan
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
How can you tell the difference without being in their classroom?
#edtechchat
In reply to @teachemtothrive
kobriengcs
Sep 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Right, if all parties are informed & consent, great. Disclosure is key.
#edtechchat
In reply to @jschwartzcen
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
NEVER look for forgiveness - in any field - ESPECIALLY education.
#edtechchat
#HouseofEdTech
In reply to @sadieclorinda
DennisDill
Sep 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
... like the ADE program ...
#edtechchat
In reply to @TheWeirdTeacher
heidijlh
Sep 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
A3 if the T loves it and the Ss do, too, no. I like to see real benefit, tho. Sometimes it seems more gimmick than substance.
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski
Hypepraise
Sep 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
#edtechchat
depends on the district and some cases if you created it on school technology it belongs to the school.
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @Sneffleupagus, @kobriengcs, @nathan_stevens, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
remikalir
Sep 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
White guy says "it's not the bias that's the issue." It's over.
#edtechchat
is just a mess
MRoarkPMP
Sep 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
It's not the bias that's the issue, it's the renumeration.
#edtechchat
In reply to @wfryer
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Truth
#edtechchat
In reply to @chrisjcluff, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
MRoarkPMP
Sep 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
It's never a bad thing to get or give feedback, but not while you're supposed to be doing the best for your Ss
#EdTechChat
In reply to @BeTheChnge
swampfrogfirst
Sep 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
A3: I enjoy reading opinions of strategies/apps/products from teachers that use them, I think transparency is important as well.
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
And we have a reasonable answer! Anyone know how to get it published?
#edtechchat
mskkauffman
Sep 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A3: We all have biases, no matter who we are and no matter what we are talking about. Disclosure is key
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Q3: Does someone having a bias towards a product or service, as long as it is disclosed, bother you?
#edtechchat
TracyNovick
Sep 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
This was my question on the
@nytimes
article: there's a policy question here; is there one & was it followed?
#edtechchat
JudyArzt
Sep 4 @ 8:28 PM EDT
Another case in point where the teacher has not read the policy or has & has not abided. Any consequences?
#edtechchat
In reply to @Sneffleupagus, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @nathan_stevens, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Q4 coming up in 1 minute…
#edtechchat
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Aren't most changes and experiments in education based on hunches to start? We do lots now that doesn't advance learning
#edtechchat
In reply to @JudyArzt, @heidijlh, @EdTechNerd
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Q4: Does anyone know how this plays out for Intellectual Property for the teacher? School? Company?
#edtechchat
drmcgettigan
Sep 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Like you Alex I listen to people I respect-I want to hear about implementation examples, benefits-if it's just an ad, I'm out
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Q3: Does someone having a bias towards a product or service, as long as it is disclosed, bother you?
#edtechchat
wfryer
Sep 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
correct, but 1 reason that is the point is because our biases are affected by renumeration. It's also the law..,
#edtechchat
In reply to @MRoarkPMP
JaneViccellio
Sep 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
That's where thus article got muddy for me. Had trouble separating teacher from student benefit.
#edtechchat
#edt5334
In reply to @mrnesi, @bigtechcoach, @DennisDill
momma_miller80
Sep 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Well that was fun...a little overwhelming too
#edtechchat
DavidKnuffke
Sep 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Disclosure to whom? Is this going in your course outline? Your letter to parents?
#edtechchat
In reply to @mskkauffman
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
The good companies are obey COPPA, FERPA, and CIPA requiring privacy for all student info, but Ps should always be informed.
#edtechchat
In reply to @lauranbowman, @ajpodchaski
TheJLV
Sep 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
And do we know how they arrived at getting one? And is it the same folks getting the same favors?
#edtechchat
In reply to @JudyArzt, @heidijlh, @MusingsOnEdTech, @EdTechNerd
teachermrskhan
Sep 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@brynmw
it's hitting me hard with this chat of how grateful I am of or code of ethics and rules about this sort of thing 😳😬
#edtechchat
Gregbagby
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
A3) Not really. I'm an ambassador for
@RagnarRelay
(Running series) and I don't push it on my friends, but I do love it
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Q3: Does someone having a bias towards a product or service, as long as it is disclosed, bother you?
#edtechchat
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Despacito.
#edtechchat
In reply to @sadieclorinda, @DennisDill, @TheWeirdTeacher
danibostick
Sep 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
My favorite classroom tool is my stack of marble comp books. Ss write daily, and I read everything they write & comment.
#EdTechChat
In reply to @jschwartzcen, @JaneViccellio, @mrnesi, @Flipgrid
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
A4: My biggest concern is that we are creating a massive problem with work for hire vs contract vs ownership
#edtechchat
JudyArzt
Sep 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Yes, but here we're talking about costly expenses at a time when budgets are tight
#edtechchat
In reply to @MusingsOnEdTech, @heidijlh, @EdTechNerd
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
I only push tools that I use and like. I would push anything that I do not use
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @teachemtothrive
mrs_payne_art
Sep 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Many district vet the companies and products they buy, so how is that any different than Ts using a product or software?
#edtechchat
Hypepraise
Sep 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
#edtechchat
If it is disclosed I have no problem with it. I am going in knowing the angle,
In reply to @ajpodchaski
TheTechRabbi
Sep 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
A2: gimmicks like Tshirts & licenses? I hope Ts who spend their own $$ at target are not falling prey to stickers and pens
#edtechchat
wfryer
Sep 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Legal issues focus on value of the contributed items, not a valid hypothesis
#edtechchat
In reply to @JudyArzt, @heidijlh, @MusingsOnEdTech, @EdTechNerd
CandiceColson
Sep 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Amen! I always used what worked best for my students or instruction.
#edtechchat
In reply to @RafranzDavis, @danibostick
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
A4: Our district owns anything you create in your role as an employee. So, you couldn't "sell" it to your sponsoring company.
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
But would they ever? Or only if it got popular enough? That becomes the question?
#edtechchat
In reply to @chrisjcluff, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @nathan_stevens, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
I create the
@HouseofEdTech
and I am a firm believer that pencil and paper still have a place!
#edtechchat
In reply to @jschwartzcen, @JaneViccellio, @Flipgrid, @HouseofEdTech
MRoarkPMP
Sep 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Would be an interesting topic for a Sup/Board member conference
#EdTechChat
In reply to @JudyArzt, @BeTheChnge
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
What bothers me is the people that push tools that they do not use or on a limited basis
#edtechchat
In reply to @teachemtothrive
drmcgettigan
Sep 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
I'm a
@BookCreatorApp
Amassador because I believe deeply in the product-I receive no incentives
#edtechchat
librarianerd
Sep 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
What is changing that? How are ed tech companies incentivizing Ts to buy? Not saying Ts deciding is wrong, but process matters.
#edtechchat
In reply to @drmcgettigan
Scott_Gregory12
Sep 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Tech. Promotes embedded videos and pop outs in text when research shows that it is the worst thing for comprehension.
#edtechchat
Gregbagby
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
I think this is a little much. I guess that's why my distric pushes
@TPreneurCHA
so teachers can develop grow and share
#edtechchat
.
In reply to @chrisjcluff, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @nathan_stevens, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray, @TPreneurCHA
JaneViccellio
Sep 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
LOVE.
#edtechchat
#edt5334
In reply to @danibostick, @jschwartzcen, @mrnesi, @Flipgrid
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
And in many cases, it doesn't matter what you created it on, but what the intention was when created
#edtechchat
In reply to @Hypepraise, @Sneffleupagus, @kobriengcs, @nathan_stevens, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
karenvaites
Sep 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
This = my biggest fear. Hard to tell passionate raves of a happy user from paid raves of a sponsored Ed.
#edtechchat
https://t.co/FKcUTYRwcc
kobriengcs
Sep 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
I've def been rec'd a tool in a chat only to see later the T is paid to promote that tool. Makes me trust it less.
#edtechchat
In reply to @sadieclorinda
MrSchoenbart
Sep 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
I've totally been guilty of this--I think most classroom Ts probably have been, too
#edtechchat
In reply to @sadieclorinda
kobriengcs
Sep 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
A4: If material is produced during school hours using school resources...it's the school's.
#edtechchat
CatherineKU72
Sep 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
A2
#edtechchat
Ts know me mostly because of my tech workshops, not curriculum I write & share. "Celeb" status for tech, not student learning
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
In the climate we are in, side hustle seems to be the only way to increase student exposure to tools
#edtechchat
In reply to @chrisjcluff, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
DennisDill
Sep 4 @ 8:34 PM EDT
and to that
#edtechchat
In reply to @jschwartzcen, @sadieclorinda, @TheWeirdTeacher
teachintechgal
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Hi friend! I miss u!!!!
#edtechchat
In reply to @drmcgettigan
TheTechRabbi
Sep 4 @ 8:34 PM EDT
A4: Who reads TOS anyway? You give right to companies to share, sell, & market. You are free to do the same. No exclusivity.
#edtechchat
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Before doing work for Google this summer, I had to double check with HR that I was allowed to get paid for it.
#edtechchat
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
A4: Our district owns anything you create in your role as an employee. So, you couldn't "sell" it to your sponsoring company.
#edtechchat
JoshDaSilva
Sep 4 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Jumped on twitter just in time to catch a very interesting
#edtechchat
conversation! Lots to think about!
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:34 PM EDT
In most cases that is what happens but this reporter looks at overblowing any so called issue. I want to see evidence of harm
#edtechchat
In reply to @kobriengcs
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:34 PM EDT
If we want to, we (humans) are great at justifying anything. And then there are places like
@DonorsChoose
to turn to...
#edtechchat
In reply to @JudyArzt, @heidijlh, @EdTechNerd, @DonorsChoose
drmcgettigan
Sep 4 @ 8:34 PM EDT
1/2 To me, the difference is the really great products out there are listening carefully to ate in order to elevate product
#edtechchat
In reply to @librarianerd
TheJLV
Sep 4 @ 8:34 PM EDT
A4: When I wrote my book (which I had a right), I had to speak to three lawyers. And clear all of them in a matter of months.
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Q4: Does anyone know how this plays out for Intellectual Property for the teacher? School? Company?
#edtechchat
MRoarkPMP
Sep 4 @ 8:34 PM EDT
No renumeration or undocumented gifting = No conflict
#edtechchat
In reply to @wfryer
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:34 PM EDT
And that is the real reason ambassador and certification programs should exist
#edtechchat
In reply to @jessxbo, @heidijlh
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:34 PM EDT
I thought to myself today, what are the big
#edtech
companies doing for the Ss and Ts of Texas right now? (1/2)
#edtechchat
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:34 PM EDT
As an ambassador of much
#edtech
who is fully abreast of strict NYC ethics rules-I had to respond to it
#edtechchat
https://t.co/84m5KWU6VG
In reply to @jessxbo, @ajpodchaski, @heidijlh
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:34 PM EDT
If you use in your classroom or school owned computer, you are done
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @Sneffleupagus, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:35 PM EDT
(2/2) Where are these companies announcements about $ donations to these communities in need.
#edtechchat
danibostick
Sep 4 @ 8:35 PM EDT
If your district is a Google district and you don't have Apple products, then you don't really have a choice.
#EdTechChat
In reply to @RafranzDavis
Gregbagby
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Thinking of all the music I wrote for my band class... my music. Others paid me for it.
#edtechchat
In reply to @nathan_stevens, @chrisjcluff, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
BeTheChnge
Sep 4 @ 8:35 PM EDT
A3) no. It's like asking a friend with a cute haircut who her stylist is. Referrals from trusted sources are very helpful.
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Q3: Does someone having a bias towards a product or service, as long as it is disclosed, bother you?
#edtechchat
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:35 PM EDT
I wouldn't push whoops
#edtechchat
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
I only push tools that I use and like. I would push anything that I do not use
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @teachemtothrive
RoxanneDes4ges
Sep 4 @ 8:35 PM EDT
A4: A startup wanted to pay teachers for content submitted if it helped students but many districts had policies against this.
#edtechchat
TheTechRabbi
Sep 4 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Can you expand on that? I kind of see where you're going with it.
#edtechchat
In reply to @TheJLV, @JudyArzt, @heidijlh, @MusingsOnEdTech, @EdTechNerd
drmcgettigan
Sep 4 @ 8:35 PM EDT
2/2 Not saying that there aren't unsavory companies out there too-As
@nathan_stevens
said it's the Wild West sometimes
#edtechchat
In reply to @librarianerd, @nathan_stevens
EdTechNerd
Sep 4 @ 8:35 PM EDT
I agree Chris…and I’m sure we will be hearing about them…Also remember some of these are startups with very little
#edtechchat
In reply to @mrnesi
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Did you do that in pen and paper or digitally?
#edtechchat
In reply to @Gregbagby, @chrisjcluff, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:35 PM EDT
What about bad companies? And please find me teachers who know what COPPA, FERPA, and CIPA are - this is why
#techdirs
exist
#edtechchat
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
The good companies are obey COPPA, FERPA, and CIPA requiring privacy for all student info, but Ps should always be informed.
#edtechchat
In reply to @lauranbowman, @ajpodchaski
NovakLibTech
Sep 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
This I totally get. We are a Canvas school, but I like Google classroom better
#DontHaveAChoice
#edtechchat
In reply to @danibostick, @RafranzDavis
teachintechgal
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
I've been an amb. for a number of yrs for a few companies and never received anything. It's only bc I liked and used the product
#edtechchat
In reply to @drmcgettigan, @BookCreatorApp
wfryer
Sep 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
#edtechchat
Oct 2009 post relevant to these topics: FTC mandates disclosure for bloggers receiving freebies/payments
https://t.co/jeJzqK3tsW
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Interestingly, as an
#edtech
founder, the # of times I've explained that displaying Ss pws to Ts is against basic data privacy
#edtechchat
In reply to @sadieclorinda
CatherineKU72
Sep 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
#edtechchat
Agreed! I have paid my subscriptions with my own money to avoid conflict of interest & issues with school budget.
In reply to @MRoarkPMP, @wfryer
DennisDill
Sep 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
I think every teacher has the hustle action ... always looking for ways to get something for our kids
#edtechchat
In reply to @chrisjcluff, @nathan_stevens, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
drmcgettigan
Sep 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Miss you too! It's been too long!
#edtechchat
In reply to @teachintechgal
mskkauffman
Sep 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
I have often explain during PD that product preference goes into what you choose - I share my experiences and hope it helps
#edtechchat
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Many have something similar. I wasn't 100% sure, so I dug deep into our board policy.
#edtechchat
In reply to @kylelaurie
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
The power of so many "start-ups" combined would be a great joint effort. Even the
@Yankees
and
@RedSox
teamed up on this one.
#edtechchat
EdTechNerd
Sep 4 @ 8:35 PM EDT
I agree Chris…and I’m sure we will be hearing about them…Also remember some of these are startups with very little
#edtechchat
In reply to @mrnesi
TheTechRabbi
Sep 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A3: yes. Products and companies that promote creative process. Doesn't have a brand but
@Apple
and
@Adobe
nail it for me
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @Apple, @Adobe
TheWeirdTeacher
Sep 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
#edtechchat
But if that person is being paid by the stylist that should matter. The recc isn't as trusted
In reply to @BeTheChnge
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
And for that matter, what are other cos. like Amazon or Bershire Hathway doing for Houston?
#edtechchat
In reply to @mrnesi
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Who is monitoring these educators and what they agree to? I had to sign a non-compete doc for school
#edtechchat
In reply to @drmcgettigan, @librarianerd
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
So should teachers now look like Nascar drivers?
#edtechchat
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Becoming an
@GoogleForEdu
trainer requires a knowledge of those 3-another reason to get Ts knowledgable about
#edtech
#EdTechChat
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @GoogleForEdu
MRoarkPMP
Sep 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
I'm sorry you've had to do that, but thank you for staying on this side of the line.
#EdTechChat
In reply to @CatherineKU72, @wfryer
EdTechNerd
Sep 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
That is a great idea!
#edtechchat
In reply to @mrnesi, @Yankees, @RedSox
DennisDill
Sep 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
I do all my work on my personal computer ... from home
#edtechchat
In reply to @nathan_stevens, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @Sneffleupagus, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
upahk
Sep 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
"...to influence which tools are used to teach American schoolchildren" When did tools, not teachers, start doing the teaching?
#edtechchat
CandiceColson
Sep 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
My concern with the article is the trying to vilify the teachers. Why can't they do something that has a benefit for their Ss?
#EdTechChat
JaneViccellio
Sep 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Sometimes you just gotta hustle.
#edtechchat
#edt5334
In reply to @DennisDill, @chrisjcluff, @nathan_stevens, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
TheWeirdTeacher
Sep 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
#edtechchat
no
In reply to @ajpodchaski
JudyArzt
Sep 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
I love those marble comp books, but use them to record my own notes and reflections when I don't want to do so with a tech tool
#edtechchat
danibostick
Sep 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
My favorite classroom tool is my stack of marble comp books. Ss write daily, and I read everything they write & comment.
#EdTechChat
In reply to @jschwartzcen, @JaneViccellio, @mrnesi, @Flipgrid
TheTechRabbi
Sep 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
I agree if it's just talk. If they're showing how it can do something great then it's up to your judgement and shouldn't matter.
#edtechchat
In reply to @kylelaurie
funnymonkey
Sep 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
This is a completely accurate email about the story that was written. Full stop.
#edtechchat
In reply to @teachintechgal, @wfryer, @EdTechNerd
hypervisible
Sep 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
"Who reads ToS anyway?"
#edtechchat
drmcgettigan
Sep 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Agree! It's the very nature of teachers to share-good and bad.
#edtechchat
mskkauffman
Sep 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
I have often explain during PD that product preference goes into what you choose - I share my experiences and hope it helps
#edtechchat
Gregbagby
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Both. My computer, My purchase of
@MakeMusicInc
Finale at My house using My electricity to My wife's chagrin.
#edtechchat
In reply to @nathan_stevens, @chrisjcluff, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray, @MakeMusicInc
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
You might be safe unless you are using school owned tools
#edtechchat
In reply to @DennisDill, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @Sneffleupagus, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
Sneffleupagus
Sep 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
And if you don't use in your classroom, how can you advertise that your materials are "classroom tested and guaranteed to work"?
#edtechchat
In reply to @nathan_stevens, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
So funny. So true.
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
So should teachers now look like Nascar drivers?
#edtechchat
TracyNovick
Sep 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Raises a good point: teachers shouldn't have to dig deep for district policy
#edtechchat
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Many have something similar. I wasn't 100% sure, so I dug deep into our board policy.
#edtechchat
In reply to @kylelaurie
kwildehealey
Sep 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Learning and reflecting along with tonight's
#edtechchat
- thanks 4 allowing me the opp
RafranzDavis
Sep 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A4 Tweets turn into "positive feedback" on marketing materials. Print & Web. Companies shouldn't be buying feedback like this
#edtechchat
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A4:Some companies require signing it over for use by the company for promotion examples-it’s up to the T if they’re comfortable
#EdTechChat
In reply to @ajpodchaski
CatherineKU72
Sep 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
#edtechchat
But in all honesty, have you seen districts pursue legal ramifications on teachesr? Seems like a lot of money. University, yes
In reply to @nathan_stevens, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @Sneffleupagus, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
BeTheChnge
Sep 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A4) Attend the
@uspto
national summer teacher institute to learn more about IP! Full disclosure- I got to go all expenses paid
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Q4: Does anyone know how this plays out for Intellectual Property for the teacher? School? Company?
#edtechchat
TheWeirdTeacher
Sep 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
#edtechchat
I didn't read it as vilifying anyone. It felt like reporting, not editorializing
In reply to @CandiceColson
RoxanneDes4ges
Sep 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A4: Referrals are helpful but they aren't a science. How can we spend public money based on here-say?!
#edtechchat
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
No! And, I sort of knew what to look for, to Ctrl+F and type keywords, etc. Others may not ever find it!
#edtechchat
TracyNovick
Sep 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Raises a good point: teachers shouldn't have to dig deep for district policy
#edtechchat
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Many have something similar. I wasn't 100% sure, so I dug deep into our board policy.
#edtechchat
In reply to @kylelaurie
librarianerd
Sep 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Yes, "elevate product." Let's never forget these are businesses. Have no prob w/ ambassadors, but let's keep our critical eye.
#edtechchat
In reply to @drmcgettigan
RafranzDavis
Sep 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
This
#EdtechChat
CrownVictoria22
Sep 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
It's prevalent in education, but let's be honest: Ed is set-up for, by, & about WW. The standards, culture, & practices. So, not surprised.
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
This part of the conversation would be great for
@DonWettrick
who uses his classroom and school resources for
@letsstartedup
#edtechchat
kwildehealey
Sep 4 @ 8:39 PM EDT
Sharing an interesting article on pedagogy before tech
#edtechchat
https://t.co/hC826OaFZq
funnymonkey
Sep 4 @ 8:39 PM EDT
Reading
#edtechchat
responses. A lot of people expending a lot of energy to avoid asking any questions.
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:39 PM EDT
Wow that is a lot of My in that tweet.
#edtechchat
In reply to @Gregbagby, @chrisjcluff, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray, @MakeMusicInc
LSpencerEdD
Sep 4 @ 8:39 PM EDT
I agree w/the parent concerned about student data access. That's an issue
#edtechchat
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:39 PM EDT
Definitely no, but should teachers know how the engine works and have specialists teach them how, I would say yes
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski
mskkauffman
Sep 4 @ 8:39 PM EDT
I’m talking about PD - I’m an LMS, I don’t have a course outline
#edtechchat
In reply to @DavidKnuffke
ShanaVWhite
Sep 4 @ 8:39 PM EDT
How was it vilifying?
#edtechchat
In reply to @CandiceColson
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:39 PM EDT
Oh Clint.... I have seen all your movies
#edtechchat
In reply to @drmcgettigan, @librarianerd
Sneffleupagus
Sep 4 @ 8:40 PM EDT
We have to be willing to accept criticism, just like we teach our Ss. If this is a violation of ethics, Ts need to know.
#edtechchat
In reply to @CandiceColson
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Teachers in the USA are so undervalued as it is, so another article like that is a waste of time .Just sensationalism.
#edtechchat
In reply to @CandiceColson
Call_Me_Doyle
Sep 4 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Kinda like white people. Drop the "kinda."
#edtechchat
In reply to @funnymonkey
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:40 PM EDT
A4 - Differently for every T, S and company. It's a minefield out there.
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski
MRoarkPMP
Sep 4 @ 8:40 PM EDT
A4)Legally I think that a company can't pay a T for work during contract hours, but for TPT,many Ts do LessonPlans on own time.
#edtechchat
RafranzDavis
Sep 4 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Ouch. I've been there and that sucks
#edtechchat
In reply to @NovakLibTech, @danibostick
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Q5 coming up in 1 minute…
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:40 PM EDT
But most universities have IP policies that allow teachers to keep rights and gives use rights to Univ - good start
#edtechchat
In reply to @CatherineKU72, @nathan_stevens, @Hypepraise, @Sneffleupagus, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:40 PM EDT
We haven't even talked about laptop stickers, and the ridiculous height that has reached at conferences. Calm down, folks.
#edtechchat
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:40 PM EDT
The moment they stop asking the question “Does this bring the best from Ss and Ts’ but that can be true for Ts without tech
#edtechchat
In reply to @kobriengcs, @nathan_stevens, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
mskkauffman
Sep 4 @ 8:40 PM EDT
It also states directly in my bio on the school website which micro certs I hold
#edtechchat
In reply to @DavidKnuffke
JudyArzt
Sep 4 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Yes, & look at products like TurnItIn which collects student data and yet is used by many schools
#edtechchat
In reply to @sadieclorinda
Hypepraise
Sep 4 @ 8:40 PM EDT
#edtechchat
or is it about access to the resources and knowledge if we don't know it exists we cant access it.
In reply to @TheJLV
kobriengcs
Sep 4 @ 8:41 PM EDT
Yep, I wasn't a fan of the tone, but it raised valid concerns I hadn't fully entertained before
#edtechchat
In reply to @Sneffleupagus, @CandiceColson
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:41 PM EDT
Yes but we need to see the evidence which I have not seen.
#edtechchat
In reply to @Sneffleupagus, @CandiceColson
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:41 PM EDT
Q5: Do you see a difference between certification programs and ambassador programs for most products?
#edtechchat
TheJLV
Sep 4 @ 8:41 PM EDT
Well, given what we’ve already seen on Twitter in the last decade, it’s not far fetched.
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
So should teachers now look like Nascar drivers?
#edtechchat
AlexVKluge
Sep 4 @ 8:41 PM EDT
Students are not employees of the institution, so the institution (including you) has few fewer rights to what they produce.
#EdTechChat
In reply to @chrisjcluff, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @nathan_stevens, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @thomascmurray
TheWeirdTeacher
Sep 4 @ 8:41 PM EDT
#edtechchat
We should be asking for details about who is getting free stuff, who's benefiting, what metrics are used to choose.
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:41 PM EDT
At university you can take your course with you but university still owns it
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @CatherineKU72, @Hypepraise, @Sneffleupagus, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
Hypepraise
Sep 4 @ 8:41 PM EDT
#edtechchat
or students below the poverty line and those in Title I schools
In reply to @RafranzDavis
TheJLV
Sep 4 @ 8:41 PM EDT
That’s all related. “Access to resources” is gendered, racialized, and intersectional.
#edtechchat
In reply to @Hypepraise
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A5: I think many programs are aiming for one thing, and then become another as too many people sign up.
#edtechchat
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A5: YES. - Certs help ME grow. - Ambassadorships help the companies grow.
#edtechchat
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:42 PM EDT
I would say there’s a difference b/w side hustle and knowing tech insiders who can make you better and provide resources for Ss
#edtechchat
In reply to @nathan_stevens, @chrisjcluff, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
TheWeirdTeacher
Sep 4 @ 8:42 PM EDT
#edtechchat
I really don't think it's negative or positive. It's reporting on a thing happening.
In reply to @CandiceColson
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A5: I do, but I'm biased. Cert programs require work, little extrinsic reward. Ambassador programs exist purely for marketing
#edtechchat
NovakLibTech
Sep 4 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A5: I think there should be. A certification should mean something. You can simply sign up to be an ambassador
#edtechchat
onewheeljoe
Sep 4 @ 8:42 PM EDT
We need fewer Google evangelists and more t's willing to help their peers navigate the commercial wild-wild west of ed tech.
#edtechchat
RafranzDavis
Sep 4 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A5 Typically Ambassador/certification programs do NOT operate in this manner. This is influencer marketing &there's a difference
#edtechchat
funnymonkey
Sep 4 @ 8:42 PM EDT
The article quotes multiple legal experts that highlight that Ambassador programs potentially run afoul of legal requirements.
#edtechchat
JudyArzt
Sep 4 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Those district policies should be transparent and well publicized to the employees & community
#edtechchat
In reply to @TracyNovick
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A5 - Nope. No difference. Depends on marketing people at company on phrasing.
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:41 PM EDT
Q5: Do you see a difference between certification programs and ambassador programs for most products?
#edtechchat
kobriengcs
Sep 4 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A5: Cert programs can be a great way to get training on tech tools & using them well. Ambassadorships are all about promotion.
#edtechchat
ShanaVWhite
Sep 4 @ 8:42 PM EDT
If it is a waste of time why read it? Why participate in this chat about it?
#edtechchat
In reply to @jschwartzcen, @CandiceColson
Gregbagby
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:43 PM EDT
#edtechchat
In reply to @nathan_stevens, @chrisjcluff, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray, @MakeMusicInc
Sneffleupagus
Sep 4 @ 8:43 PM EDT
We just went through a huge ethics training that was mandated for all gov't employees. Harm/intent are irrelevant.
#edtechchat
In reply to @jschwartzcen, @kobriengcs
JoshDaSilva
Sep 4 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Exactly. If you are a mentor and a leader, aren't you an influencer? Where do we draw the line?
#edtechchat
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
I also didn’t like use of the term influencer, but influencing Ss & other Ts and schools to improve practice is what good Ts do
#edtechchat
In reply to @sadieclorinda
techtimj
Sep 4 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A5: Def. Cert programs aka microcredentials benefit Ts & demonstrate proficiency. Ambassr prog in article sound like marketing
#edtechchat
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Lots of "rock stars" don't disclose and arent aware they need to
#edtechchat
In reply to @funnymonkey
EricAfterSchool
Sep 4 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A5: Yes. One is about the new world of credentialing; the other is about branding/influence/swag.
#edtechchat
MRoarkPMP
Sep 4 @ 8:43 PM EDT
I've seen many unsanitized data files just watching Instructional Program videos Ts and Coaches put up on YT. 😡Twitpic, FB posts
#edtechchat
In reply to @LSpencerEdD
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:43 PM EDT
I have been called an OS polygamist
#EdTechChat
In reply to @RafranzDavis, @danibostick
RoxanneDes4ges
Sep 4 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A1, A2, A3: We need transparency in edtech industry. If edtech companies were registered benefit corporations they'd have to be
#edtechchat
purenappliedgr
Sep 4 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A1, A2, A3: We need transparency in edtech industry. If edtech companies were registered benefit corporations they'd have to be
#edtechchat
kobriengcs
Sep 4 @ 8:43 PM EDT
But by going thru cert programs, Ts are engaging in promotion...but they're paying, not the company, so
#edtechchat
TheJLV
Sep 4 @ 8:43 PM EDT
truuuuuu.
#edtechchat
In reply to @hypervisible
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:43 PM EDT
The Marketing Department at any of these companies is 100% responsible for the ambassador programs.
#edtechchat
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A5: I do, but I'm biased. Cert programs require work, little extrinsic reward. Ambassador programs exist purely for marketing
#edtechchat
Media_Barber
Sep 4 @ 8:43 PM EDT
I'm the teacher-librarian who reads the terms of service of s/w & apps & tell Ts, Ss, & Ps. Someone has to help.
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski
akunce05
Sep 4 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Does that mean the district owns every quiz, journal prompt, and set of directions I've ever written?
#edtechchat
In reply to @kobriengcs
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:43 PM EDT
At one point Dixon Ticonderoga was hustling teachers alongside Bic-take the free pencils and use them to write great stuff
#edtechchat
In reply to @nathan_stevens, @Gregbagby, @chrisjcluff, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
remikalir
Sep 4 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Study tonight's
#edtechchat
- it's created an alchemy of "watch whiteness work," techno-determinism, and save the kids. Just stunning.
heidijlh
Sep 4 @ 8:43 PM EDT
I like NYC. They bring in app developers to work w Ts to develop for T-identified learning problems. Should be a common model!
#edtechchat
RoxanneDes4ges
Sep 4 @ 8:35 PM EDT
A4: A startup wanted to pay teachers for content submitted if it helped students but many districts had policies against this.
#edtechchat
funnymonkey
Sep 4 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Multiple states have laws that describe limits on gifts that are permissible. Ambassador programs might run afoul of these.
#edtechchat
TheWeirdTeacher
Sep 4 @ 8:44 PM EDT
#edtechchat
Because that's not what the word means here. Influencer means salesperson. Person to influence teachers. For renumeration.
In reply to @JoshDaSilva
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Everybody needs to be able to voice their opinion or is that prohibited??
#edtechchat
In reply to @ShanaVWhite, @CandiceColson
drmcgettigan
Sep 4 @ 8:44 PM EDT
It was pointed out in some of the comments but I saw no follow up.
#edtechchat
In reply to @RafranzDavis
JudyArzt
Sep 4 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Can you elaborate further Dani? Much of what we're chatting goes beyond character limit of a tweet
#edtechchat
In reply to @danibostick, @RafranzDavis
Sneffleupagus
Sep 4 @ 8:44 PM EDT
So we should only do the right thing if there is threat of consequences? Is that the message we pass along to Ss?
#edtechchat
In reply to @CatherineKU72, @nathan_stevens, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Technically, if they want to be jerks about it, yes.
#edtechchat
In reply to @akunce05, @kobriengcs
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Bet some lawyer can still make the case for the school owning it if it relates to your job in any way.
#edtechchat
In reply to @raspberryberet3, @DennisDill, @nathan_stevens, @Hypepraise, @Sneffleupagus, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A very program doesn't mean you push something. It means you know how it works at that moment
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski
danibostick
Sep 4 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Districts / states need to set those ethical standards / regs then. Otherwise, there is a lot of latitude.
#edtechchat
In reply to @mrnesi, @funnymonkey
JudyArzt
Sep 4 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Same here
#edtechchat
In reply to @RafranzDavis, @danibostick
CatherineKU72
Sep 4 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A5
#edtechchat
I will be gentle w/this: some ambassador titles are had after answering 10 or fewer easy Qs. Certification = 3hr test.
drmcgettigan
Sep 4 @ 8:45 PM EDT
Sorry meant Ts not 'ate'.
#edtechchat
drmcgettigan
Sep 4 @ 8:34 PM EDT
1/2 To me, the difference is the really great products out there are listening carefully to ate in order to elevate product
#edtechchat
In reply to @librarianerd
RoxanneDes4ges
Sep 4 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A5: They have the same end goal. The point of credentialing for a business is to improve customer loyalty.
#edtechchat
SchleiderJustin
Sep 4 @ 8:45 PM EDT
I believe the district owns everything you create for your position. lesson plans, quizzes, journals, directions. etc.
#edtechchat
In reply to @akunce05, @kobriengcs
funnymonkey
Sep 4 @ 8:45 PM EDT
That is a failing of Ambassadors, and the companies who run the programs. This is a well worn path.
#edtechchat
In reply to @mrnesi
TheJLV
Sep 4 @ 8:45 PM EDT
I thought it was well said, though a little late. It’s irked a ton of us who’ve seen teacher entrepreneurship gone awry.
#edtechchat
In reply to @jschwartzcen, @ShanaVWhite, @CandiceColson
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:45 PM EDT
I believe harm is relevant.
#edtechchat
In reply to @Sneffleupagus, @kobriengcs
Hypepraise
Sep 4 @ 8:45 PM EDT
#edtechchat
side hustle assumes lack of conflict of interest we influence our students even when not trying to where's the line
In reply to @seanmarnold, @nathan_stevens, @chrisjcluff, @ajpodchaski, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
Sneffleupagus
Sep 4 @ 8:45 PM EDT
Not in the eyes of the law.
#edtechchat
In reply to @jschwartzcen, @kobriengcs
DennisDill
Sep 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Tech/textbook companies influence people, wine and dine those who make decisions ... it makes good business sense ... for them.
#edtechchat
In reply to @seanmarnold, @nathan_stevens, @chrisjcluff, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
AlexVKluge
Sep 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
This is really a question of the specifics of your employment contracts and intellectual property agreements.
#EdTechChat
In reply to @akunce05, @kobriengcs
LSpencerEdD
Sep 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
If written on district equipment, yes. That's what I have been told by legal. Maybe diff states have diff rules
#edtechchat
akunce05
Sep 4 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Does that mean the district owns every quiz, journal prompt, and set of directions I've ever written?
#edtechchat
In reply to @kobriengcs
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Why I didn’t like the term influencer strict ethics rules for NYC and conscience are my line-meaning no money/free meals, etc
#edtechchat
In reply to @JoshDaSilva
funnymonkey
Sep 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Many states have. These laws are on the books. So has the FTC.
#edtechchat
In reply to @danibostick, @mrnesi
akunce05
Sep 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
As a reading teacher, I choose books we purchase all the time, w/no kickback. I definitely endorse books for free.
#edtechchat
librarianerd
Sep 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
The reporter wrote story based on research. She didn't "tear apart the teaching," but did bring up some ethical questions.
#edtechchat
In reply to @mskkauffman, @chadw675
ShanaVWhite
Sep 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
You just described the article as a "waste of time" & "just sensationalism" but your involved in the chat about it? Interesting
#edtechchat
In reply to @jschwartzcen, @CandiceColson
CrownVictoria22
Sep 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Boom!
#Exactly
!
#edtechchat
TheJLV
Sep 4 @ 8:28 PM EDT
Race, class, gender influence a lot of the perceptions we have about “teacher influencers.”
#edtechchat
Media_Barber
Sep 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A1. I was jealous & have to question dress shop
https://t.co/XKnUO6Ty5v
do race & economics play a part of who
#edtech
co. help?
#edtechchat
Gregbagby
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A5) yes. Love certification programs, if you brag about it you then become an ambassador and didn't know it.
#edtechchat
.
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:41 PM EDT
Q5: Do you see a difference between certification programs and ambassador programs for most products?
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
This is different. Most people think the work they do is theirs, especially teachers, but without knowing if true
#edtechchat
In reply to @Sneffleupagus, @CatherineKU72, @nathan_stevens, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
ebrown0789
Sep 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A5: Certification = Ts pass a test. Ambassador = Ts use frequently & are encouraged to promote/"sell".
#edtechchat
kylelaurie
Sep 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A5 Although I did get the Google certs, I did so to learn the product so I could help my teachers...not to be part of a "group".
#edtechchat
JudyArzt
Sep 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
You certainly don't need either certification and no reason not to use Apple products (Mac, iPhone, etc.)
#edtechchat
In reply to @danibostick, @RafranzDavis
CandiceColson
Sep 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
I assume we are all here as educators trying to better our outlook and perspective.
#EdTechChat
In reply to @jschwartzcen, @ShanaVWhite
TheTechRabbi
Sep 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
How does someone become an influencer? Ask
@GuyKawasaki
he invented the "brand ambassador" It's hard work & req. quality output
#edtechchat
In reply to @RafranzDavis, @GuyKawasaki
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Totally depends on the company. Some "certification" is essentially the same as ambassador.
#edtechchat
In reply to @CatherineKU72
mrs_payne_art
Sep 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
It depends on your district policy. So, yes, potentially.
#edtechchat
In reply to @akunce05, @kobriengcs
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Tech changes quickly, so we must constantly ask, is this best for Ss-if we do and don’t profit-we generally remain above board
#edtechchat
In reply to @JoshDaSilva
TheJLV
Sep 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Except when they try to force your teachers to use the program when they haven’t done anything to prove why we *need* to.
#edtechchat
In reply to @heidijlh
WillStewartIV
Sep 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
As T &
#edtech
entrepreneur it's really interesting seeing the response to NYT article on Twitter generally and
#edtechchat
specifically.
Media_Barber
Sep 4 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A5. Cert prgs charge T. Shows some level of competency. Ambassador may competency too but shows personal relationship
#edtechchat
MrHron
Sep 4 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A2: Yes, there is no doubt. Quality instructional methods can be freely implemented, but
#edtech
comp. make you think otherwise
#EdTechChat
In reply to @ajpodchaski
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:47 PM EDT
What examples of entrepreneurship do you site? Are teachers such a powerful business?
#edtechchat
In reply to @TheJLV, @ShanaVWhite, @CandiceColson
Gregbagby
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:47 PM EDT
BTW it's
@s_bearden
Birthday.
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @Sneffleupagus, @CatherineKU72, @nathan_stevens, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray, @s_bearden
akunce05
Sep 4 @ 8:47 PM EDT
But if I don't create them, the district doesn't give them to me. How can I teach with creating? Feels very
#catch22
#edtechchat
In reply to @SchleiderJustin, @kobriengcs
RobynDShulman
Sep 4 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Unlocking Hidden Potential through Recruitment
https://t.co/ifHmkTN6Vq
#edtech
#edtechchat
#education
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:47 PM EDT
I didn't learn it from any educator I've known. I learned this on my podcasting journey.
#edtechchat
In reply to @funnymonkey, @danibostick
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Inconceivable
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @Sneffleupagus, @CatherineKU72, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
CatherineKU72
Sep 4 @ 8:47 PM EDT
#edtechchat
Interesting. Ts I work with want 1-2 easy to use tools or ideas. I try to showcase options, but it can overwhelm. 1 can't do all
In reply to @onewheeljoe
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Cert usually prove expertise in a field or program - ambassador is promoting regardless of your level of knowledge
#edtechchat
In reply to @teachemtothrive
TheWeirdTeacher
Sep 4 @ 8:47 PM EDT
#edtechchat
A5 There's a huge difference, otherwise they'd have the same name. One is training, one is spreading word.
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:41 PM EDT
Q5: Do you see a difference between certification programs and ambassador programs for most products?
#edtechchat
RafranzDavis
Sep 4 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Or one begins on twitter edu at the start, blogs, buys a few followers...there are a ton of paths to this & not all are valid
#edtechchat
TheTechRabbi
Sep 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
How does someone become an influencer? Ask
@GuyKawasaki
he invented the "brand ambassador" It's hard work & req. quality output
#edtechchat
In reply to @RafranzDavis, @GuyKawasaki
LSpencerEdD
Sep 4 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Correct. But I got Apple Teacher "cert" in about 30 minutes w/easy questions. Don't post badge - didn't feel earned
#edtechchat
CatherineKU72
Sep 4 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A5
#edtechchat
I will be gentle w/this: some ambassador titles are had after answering 10 or fewer easy Qs. Certification = 3hr test.
kobriengcs
Sep 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
It's actually kind of amazing how much Ts (myself included) don't know about this. We need to educate ourselves
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @Sneffleupagus, @CatherineKU72, @nathan_stevens, @Hypepraise, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
funnymonkey
Sep 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
Also worth noting. Full disclosure needs to contain "ad" or "advertisement" -
#edtechchat
mr_payne_tech
Sep 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
Our S's can get cert. in MS office. That is a marketable job skill. Why shouldn't teachers get certs form EdTech companies?
#edtechchat
mrs_payne_art
Sep 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
Isn't that just a gimmick? It doesn't mean you are pushing the product to the students.
#edtechchat
In reply to @seanmarnold, @nathan_stevens, @Gregbagby, @chrisjcluff, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
MRoarkPMP
Sep 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
I'm typing in Windows, next to my Ubuntu (Linux) server, talking on my iPhone...Now where's that Chromebook? LOLOL
#EdTechChat
In reply to @nathan_stevens, @RafranzDavis, @danibostick
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
Let's be honest, my Google badges are kind of Ambassador-ish. They HOPE I put it on my email, social media to advertise program
#edtechchat
rickeducation
Sep 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A5: They are equivalent, The Dremel 3D printer classroom is a case in point. Much of
#edtech
requires significant training
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
That is what Twitter chats should be about, a free flow of ideas without judgment nor condemnation but with respect.
#edtechchat
In reply to @CandiceColson, @ShanaVWhite
danibostick
Sep 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
Well, if my district doesn't provide them, I'm not going to buy them alone. That is sort of my point.
#EdTechChat
In reply to @JudyArzt, @RafranzDavis
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
Let people use what they want. I really dislike the condescension from folks when you say you don't like their tool
#EdtechChat
In reply to @TheJLV, @heidijlh
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A5: The big companies make sure you follow local ethics rules-no free software, etc. Some startups can be shadier
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski
RoxanneDes4ges
Sep 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A5: I'm just going to say it: If teachers were better paid they would be less vulnerable to this kind of thing.
#EdTechChat
ZSharon
Sep 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
I'd suggest there are plenty of dynamic edtech tools that require neither certification or ambassadorships, but that's me ;)
#edtechchat
wfryer
Sep 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
#edtechchat
A5 Both certification & ambassador EDU programs can be beneficial for all parties. Disclosure for renumeration is essential tho
BeTheChnge
Sep 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A5) in my experience both involve PD but one has swag and commitments involved
#edtechchat
Gregbagby
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
But when they pass, they brag and are like ambassadors. :-)
#EdTechChat
ebrown0789
Sep 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A5: Certification = Ts pass a test. Ambassador = Ts use frequently & are encouraged to promote/"sell".
#edtechchat
KSfortcherry
Sep 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
7 benefits of using 3D printing technology in education
#edtech
#edtechchat
#elearning
#education
#teaching
https://t.co/W2YdItd4Qa
via
teachintechgal
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
#edtechchat
In reply to @Gregbagby, @ajpodchaski, @Sneffleupagus, @CatherineKU72, @nathan_stevens, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
SchleiderJustin
Sep 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
They pay you to create them. that is your job. that is why they own them. like if a researcher finds cure to cancer.
#edtechchat
In reply to @akunce05, @kobriengcs
TheJLV
Sep 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
Teachers are powerful enough to have dozens of kids to experiment with right under their districts’ noses. Please.
#edtechchat
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:47 PM EDT
What examples of entrepreneurship do you site? Are teachers such a powerful business?
#edtechchat
In reply to @TheJLV, @ShanaVWhite, @CandiceColson
akunce05
Sep 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
Or when students *hate* the product but you're mandated to use it 'cause the district spent money on it.
#edtechchat
In reply to @TheJLV, @heidijlh
funnymonkey
Sep 4 @ 8:49 PM EDT
And, of course, the equity issues are front and center here. Ambassador programs reflect these issues faithfully.
#edtechchat
teachemtothrive
Sep 4 @ 8:49 PM EDT
Bottom line: How do certs and ambassador designations reach students in the classroom?
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:49 PM EDT
Q6 coming up in 1 minute…
#edtechchat
ehoffman
Sep 4 @ 8:49 PM EDT
And justifying, and ignoring ethical concerns, and getting defensive, and making an echo chamber
#EdTechChat
In reply to @funnymonkey
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:49 PM EDT
You are talking my language
#edtechchat
In reply to @MRoarkPMP, @RafranzDavis, @danibostick
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:49 PM EDT
I would say though, keep abreast of small startups, because they can lead to some great changes
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski
EricAfterSchool
Sep 4 @ 8:49 PM EDT
Would be excited to hire candidate w. Google/Apple cert. Would run screaming from some candidates w. ambassadorships.
#edtechchat
Hypepraise
Sep 4 @ 8:49 PM EDT
#edtechchat
the problem is that legal issues aren't necessarily taught in teacher prep programs and veterans pose a different perspective.
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @Sneffleupagus, @CatherineKU72, @nathan_stevens, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:49 PM EDT
We are trying to discuss it. That was my opinion , you can take or leave it but do not judge.
#edtechchat
In reply to @ShanaVWhite, @CandiceColson
upahk
Sep 4 @ 8:49 PM EDT
A5: In my understanding, being an ambassador (def: a "campaigner" or "representative") is not the same as earning a certificate
#edtechchat
JaneViccellio
Sep 4 @ 8:49 PM EDT
That moment you sit in a technology mtg and realize all the things you aren't using...
#edtechchat
#edt5334
In reply to @CatherineKU72, @onewheeljoe
AlexVKluge
Sep 4 @ 8:49 PM EDT
Is there any support for the assertion that this technique exacerbates racial or gender divides?
#EdTechChat
In reply to @RafranzDavis
TheJLV
Sep 4 @ 8:49 PM EDT
And when it’s necessary, not NOW RIGHT NOW.
#edtechchat
In reply to @nathan_stevens, @heidijlh
JudyArzt
Sep 4 @ 8:49 PM EDT
So your district choices in turn might influence what parents also buy
#edtechchat
In reply to @danibostick, @RafranzDavis
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:49 PM EDT
I'm an official ambassador for no companies but I recommend things all the time bc of my experiences and use.
#edtechchat
In reply to @jessxbo
akunce05
Sep 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
But the researcher can get a co-patent and, generally, is paid WAY more than most k-12 teachers.
#edtechchat
In reply to @SchleiderJustin, @kobriengcs
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
It’s been a much bigger and longer running racket-and their push is why some schools haven’t yet gone full ebook
#edtechchat
In reply to @DennisDill, @nathan_stevens, @chrisjcluff, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
kobriengcs
Sep 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
also why some Ts accept gifts, right? Bc they wouldn't be able to afford them for their Ss otherwise. Ts are vulnerable to that
#edtechchat
In reply to @danibostick, @JudyArzt, @RafranzDavis
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
You can drop the mic now :)
#edtechchat
In reply to @Hypepraise, @Sneffleupagus, @CatherineKU72, @nathan_stevens, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Q6: What are next steps we can take to turn negative feelings and attitudes into something positive?
#edtechchat
AlexVKluge
Sep 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
I've seen the assertion a few times tonight, any evidence?
#EdTechChat
In reply to @RafranzDavis
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
@s_bearden
and I are lounging in the
@TweechmeApp
money bin
#edtechchat
In reply to @teachintechgal, @Gregbagby, @ajpodchaski, @Sneffleupagus, @CatherineKU72, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray, @s_bearden, @TweechmeApp
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
I would look into your district's board policy. You'll probably have to really dig. Some are more strict than others.
#edtechchat
In reply to @akunce05, @SchleiderJustin, @kobriengcs
MRoarkPMP
Sep 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Ideally, it should be addressed from HR/Cabinet/Board of how each District wants it to be handled.
#EdTechChat
In reply to @kobriengcs, @ajpodchaski, @Sneffleupagus, @CatherineKU72, @nathan_stevens, @Hypepraise, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
RafranzDavis
Sep 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Ummm....It's no different that all other aspects of edtech/tech that do exactly the same
#edtechchat
In reply to @AlexVKluge
Gregbagby
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
I find myself having
#FOMO
with certifications, not so much with ambassador programs.
#EdTechChat
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Word
#edtechchat
In reply to @TheJLV, @heidijlh
TheWeirdTeacher
Sep 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
#edtechchat
Your contribution to discussion was "this is a waste of time".
In reply to @jschwartzcen, @ShanaVWhite, @CandiceColson
DonWettrick
Sep 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
I think what my school lets me do IS the balance. Instead of "influencer" marketing, we choose to showcase what we do best.
#EdTechChat
In reply to @mrnesi, @letsstartedup
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:51 PM EDT
That is my opinion of the article - you are free to agree or disagree but not to slant the Tweet as a judgment.
#edtechchat
In reply to @ShanaVWhite, @CandiceColson
CandiceColson
Sep 4 @ 8:51 PM EDT
Are we trying to start an argument or learn more from each other about edtech?
#edtechchat
I'm here to learn more and discuss.
In reply to @ShanaVWhite, @jschwartzcen
brandiheinz
Sep 4 @ 8:51 PM EDT
Watching
#edtechchat
tonight. Collaboration can be a win-win when the company and teacher are authentic. Favorite part of my job.
SchleiderJustin
Sep 4 @ 8:51 PM EDT
That is not the discussion about what we get paid.If you create it for your job it's theirs. thats the law as i understand it.
#edtechchat
In reply to @akunce05, @kobriengcs
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:51 PM EDT
It is actually in most teacher contract, but no one ever looks it up.
#edtechchat
In reply to @MRoarkPMP, @kobriengcs, @Sneffleupagus, @CatherineKU72, @nathan_stevens, @Hypepraise, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
JaneViccellio
Sep 4 @ 8:51 PM EDT
Been there. Done that. Too often.
#edtechchat
#edt5334
In reply to @akunce05, @TheJLV, @heidijlh
Hypepraise
Sep 4 @ 8:51 PM EDT
#edtechchat
but teachers don't actually have the power to make decisions in many cases they aren't the movers and shakers
In reply to @DennisDill, @seanmarnold, @nathan_stevens, @chrisjcluff, @ajpodchaski, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:51 PM EDT
Exactly, use the tool that works best. It might be one that has a giveaway-but when they stop serving S needs, go elsewhere
#edtechchat
In reply to @mrs_payne_art, @nathan_stevens, @Gregbagby, @chrisjcluff, @ajpodchaski, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
RafranzDavis
Sep 4 @ 8:51 PM EDT
A6 Positively recognize that there are issues and be a part of the process to change it. Use your influence for that
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Q6: What are next steps we can take to turn negative feelings and attitudes into something positive?
#edtechchat
reigningit
Sep 4 @ 8:51 PM EDT
#K12Influencers
@edcampOSjr
#Inspiration
#InspiringQuotes
https://t.co/DdA1T2uDBI
#CSforAll
#ComputerScience
#EdTech
#EdTechChat
#Technology
drmcgettigan
Sep 4 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A5 Some crossover but most Cert. have rigorous process where Ambassadors not really
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:41 PM EDT
Q5: Do you see a difference between certification programs and ambassador programs for most products?
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Check out
#edtechchat
radio on the
@bamradionetwork
:
https://t.co/hq89LgPtY4
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Job choice. As a grad student (super underpaid) anything I did owned by U. (I believe Ts are underpaid, so not mocking.)
#edtechchat
In reply to @akunce05, @SchleiderJustin, @kobriengcs
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:52 PM EDT
How many people would show up to that?
#edtechchat
In reply to @CraftingHeroes, @kobriengcs, @ajpodchaski, @Sneffleupagus, @CatherineKU72, @Hypepraise, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
rickeducation
Sep 4 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Joined
#edtechchat
late. Took time to read
https://t.co/0usfcNQsnY
. Worthwhile conversation about role of ads, perks and independence.
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:52 PM EDT
That is to say the article as it sets out to vilify a group that has been long criticised.
#edtechchat
In reply to @TheWeirdTeacher, @ShanaVWhite, @CandiceColson
jessxbo
Sep 4 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Fair enough! ☺️ I have certs that I turned into ambassadorships bc I believed that the company growing would then reach more Ss
#edtechchat
In reply to @mrnesi
RoxanneDes4ges
Sep 4 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A6: Demand transparency, opt to do business with certified benefit corporations, develop policies = no evidence, no business.
#edtechchat
TheWeirdTeacher
Sep 4 @ 8:52 PM EDT
#edtechchat
How does it vilify?
In reply to @jschwartzcen, @ShanaVWhite, @CandiceColson
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:52 PM EDT
That is the point but some do not get that.
#edtechchat
In reply to @CandiceColson, @ShanaVWhite
xianb8
Sep 4 @ 8:53 PM EDT
The problem lies in when power structures keep some folks experiences from being valued, learned from.
#edtechchat
In reply to @CandiceColson, @ShanaVWhite, @jschwartzcen
TheTechRabbi
Sep 4 @ 8:53 PM EDT
Buying followers doesn't work. Can see facade of zero engagement w/ 50K followers. Use
#twitteraudit
- Need to teach SM literacy
#edtechchat
In reply to @RafranzDavis
PBJellyGames
Sep 4 @ 8:53 PM EDT
The rigorous nature and what ambassadorships represent (sales vs collaboration with community and service) make difference no?
#edtechchat
In reply to @EricAfterSchool
LAMBRADLEY
Sep 4 @ 8:53 PM EDT
Why? What is it about ambassadorships that make you run screaming?
#edtechchat
In reply to @EricAfterSchool
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:53 PM EDT
Teachers have the ultimate power - they affect students lives - but how you can use this power to affect change can be hard
#edtechchat
In reply to @Hypepraise, @DennisDill, @seanmarnold, @nathan_stevens, @chrisjcluff, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
megmdob
Sep 4 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A6: Use positive affirmations during difficult times, statements you can say to yourself or one another that changes the mindset
#edtechchat
Media_Barber
Sep 4 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A6. Try multiple s/w for problem & share pros / cons. What failed for you may work for me
#edtechchat
ZSharon
Sep 4 @ 8:53 PM EDT
It sounds like certifications and ambassadorships are another form of marketing edtech. How do publishers fit in?
#edtechchat
danibostick
Sep 4 @ 8:53 PM EDT
Yes. This could be a problem, but certain products work best if the entire school is on the same page. Guess it depends.
#EdTechChat
In reply to @kobriengcs, @JudyArzt, @RafranzDavis
akunce05
Sep 4 @ 8:53 PM EDT
What happens when your district is under state control & state widely publicizes their relationships w/tech companies?
#edtechchat
In reply to @sadieclorinda, @SchleiderJustin, @kobriengcs
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:53 PM EDT
And how would it come across when the school tells them they own everything they are selling on TPT?
#edtechchat
In reply to @CraftingHeroes, @nathan_stevens, @kobriengcs, @Sneffleupagus, @CatherineKU72, @Hypepraise, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:53 PM EDT
I've never seen a certification program I would hang on wall/put in email sig. Must be looking at wrong ones.
#edtechchat
In reply to @MRoarkPMP, @CatherineKU72
upahk
Sep 4 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A6: I didn't know much about this before tonight. I'd like to do more research, reflection, and share with other teachers
#edtechchat
whispermode
Sep 4 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Any T worth their salt may be persuaded by swag, but if not effective in the classroom, it will be (should be) ditched.
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @Rdene915
JudyArzt
Sep 4 @ 8:54 PM EDT
yet the blog post is not research but promotion of a product
#edtechchat
In reply to @KSfortcherry
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:54 PM EDT
That is smart
#edtechchat
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:53 PM EDT
As a regular
#edtech
ambassador and presenter, I have regular contact with my NYC ethics board to make sure all is kosher
#edtechteam
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @MRoarkPMP, @kobriengcs, @Sneffleupagus, @CatherineKU72, @nathan_stevens, @Hypepraise, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Why do you want to sidetrack in minutia from the main discussion and pronounce more judgment.
#edtechchat
In reply to @ShanaVWhite, @CandiceColson
PBJellyGames
Sep 4 @ 8:54 PM EDT
For example. MIE Certs have value, tied to collab community. MS Certs, Google Certs, Apple Certs vs. XyZ Ambassador.
#edtechchat
In reply to @EricAfterSchool
RoxanneDes4ges
Sep 4 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A6: Purchases in education should never be made on the basis of referrals alone. Ask to see evidence of impact.
#edtechchat
techtimj
Sep 4 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A6: We need to live & operate in way that that demonstrates ethical decision making 4 S learning
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Thanks
@RafranzDavis
- as always a great perspective!
#edtechchat
RafranzDavis
Sep 4 @ 8:51 PM EDT
A6 Positively recognize that there are issues and be a part of the process to change it. Use your influence for that
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Q6: What are next steps we can take to turn negative feelings and attitudes into something positive?
#edtechchat
teachintechgal
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Duck tales awhooooo!
#edtechchat
In reply to @nathan_stevens, @Gregbagby, @ajpodchaski, @Sneffleupagus, @CatherineKU72, @Hypepraise, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray, @TweechmeApp
MRoarkPMP
Sep 4 @ 8:54 PM EDT
This has to be one of the most eye-opening and most participated
#EdTechChat
sessions I have seen thus far.
In reply to @CandiceColson, @ShanaVWhite, @jschwartzcen
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:54 PM EDT
True, some Ts left to work for
#edtech
for money, others because change was too slow and frustrating, some both
#edtechchat
In reply to @Hypepraise, @DennisDill, @nathan_stevens, @chrisjcluff, @ajpodchaski, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
TheJLV
Sep 4 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A5: Disagree. Because capitalism, we’ll still have situations where some ppl will want an even higher salary. Just cuz.
#edtechchat
RoxanneDes4ges
Sep 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A5: I'm just going to say it: If teachers were better paid they would be less vulnerable to this kind of thing.
#EdTechChat
RafranzDavis
Sep 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
It worked for years for many. Trust me.
@TheJLV
can also vouch for this. I also used to manage a celeb account. It worked
#edtechchat
In reply to @TheTechRabbi, @TheJLV
nathan_stevens
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Or ask them to provide records for what they have sold.
#ponyupthecash
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @CraftingHeroes, @kobriengcs, @Sneffleupagus, @CatherineKU72, @Hypepraise, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
BeTheChnge
Sep 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
A6) continue the conversation with our districts and colleagues...continue the tough conversation in a part two
#edtechchat
?!?
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
If you find actual research, please share!!!!!
#edtechchat
In reply to @teachemtothrive
MrHron
Sep 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
A1: Happens w/ a lot of tech gurus Getting $ for extra effort is okay Getting $ for sponsored tech disguised as "quality is not
#EdTechChat
ZSharon
Sep 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Excellent question - and how are those relationships made?
#edtechchat
In reply to @akunce05, @sadieclorinda, @SchleiderJustin, @kobriengcs
akunce05
Sep 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
YES, THIS!!! And if I purchase from TPT w/personal money, do I have to share w/district?
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski, @CraftingHeroes, @nathan_stevens, @kobriengcs, @Sneffleupagus, @CatherineKU72, @Hypepraise, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
EricAfterSchool
Sep 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Looking for Ts who are passionate servants to our mission, not building brands.
#edtechchat
In reply to @LAMBRADLEY
JaneViccellio
Sep 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Enjoying discourse about tech and teachers.
#edtechchat
#edt5334
Scott_Gregory12
Sep 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Great point. District policies are woefully behind. Ethics was assumed as a given in the past.
#edtechchat
RoxanneDes4ges
Sep 4 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A6: Demand transparency, opt to do business with certified benefit corporations, develop policies = no evidence, no business.
#edtechchat
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
A5 - Get informed. Clear from chat tonight & article comments, that many Ts/people don't know the ethics/rules around own job.
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Q6: What are next steps we can take to turn negative feelings and attitudes into something positive?
#edtechchat
JudyArzt
Sep 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Yes, but what message does that give students about what to have at home?
#edtechchat
In reply to @danibostick, @kobriengcs, @RafranzDavis
EdTechNerd
Sep 4 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Correct. I left because all I wanted 2 do was reach more Ts through a positive company that met my educational morals and values
#edtechchat
In reply to @seanmarnold, @Hypepraise, @DennisDill, @nathan_stevens, @chrisjcluff, @ajpodchaski, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
TheJLV
Sep 4 @ 8:56 PM EDT
YEP! Not only does it work, it encouraged others to follow because social proof, even fake, is still proof. Ask the president.
#edtechchat
In reply to @RafranzDavis, @TheTechRabbi
jschwartzcen
Sep 4 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Agree. Thought provoking .
#edtechchat
In reply to @MRoarkPMP, @CandiceColson, @ShanaVWhite
mrs_payne_art
Sep 4 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Our school is supposed to start some program with Amazon. We aren't sure what that is about yet.
#edtechchat
In reply to @akunce05, @sadieclorinda, @SchleiderJustin, @kobriengcs
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:56 PM EDT
A6:Stay informed and above board, if it’s a grey area-talk to the ethics lawyers and always start with student benefit in mind
#edtechchat
In reply to @ajpodchaski
rickeducation
Sep 4 @ 8:56 PM EDT
One case study re: tech companies and schools gone awry is the iPad debacle in LAUSD. 2 were too cozy.
https://t.co/7avhz3rdvR
#edtechchat
whispermode
Sep 4 @ 8:56 PM EDT
That's where informed TOSAs are helpful.
@adinasullivan
is fantastic about helping us navigate the minefield of COPPA.
#edtechchat
In reply to @lauranbowman, @ajpodchaski, @adinasullivan
karenvaites
Sep 4 @ 8:56 PM EDT
I'm afraid that
@nytimes
article will make ed's think every
#edleader
is on take + every product org is offering $ for promo
#edtechchat
In reply to @RafranzDavis, @nytimes
Hypepraise
Sep 4 @ 8:56 PM EDT
#edtechchat
saw this but couldnt find the date on the article to know when it was updated or written
In reply to @douglevin, @ajpodchaski, @CraftingHeroes, @nathan_stevens, @kobriengcs, @Sneffleupagus, @CatherineKU72, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
MrHron
Sep 4 @ 8:56 PM EDT
A3: When masquerading as "quality" when it is not, I do. Teachers are human and fall for ads. Then disclosure is not enough.
#EdTechChat
EdTechNerd
Sep 4 @ 8:57 PM EDT
I’m an EDU in an edtech company who cares about moving policy forward around a topic (
#compsci
), and support Ts and Ss
#edtechchat
In reply to @seanmarnold, @Hypepraise, @DennisDill, @nathan_stevens, @chrisjcluff, @ajpodchaski, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A6: I have a longer explanation and tips/examples that I wrote out in response
#edtechchat
https://t.co/84m5KWU6VG
In reply to @ajpodchaski
onewheeljoe
Sep 4 @ 8:57 PM EDT
edtech companies are only seeking to further one narrative about products. honest teacher inquiries have no place in it.
#edtechchat
LAMBRADLEY
Sep 4 @ 8:53 PM EDT
Why? What is it about ambassadorships that make you run screaming?
#edtechchat
In reply to @EricAfterSchool
drmcgettigan
Sep 4 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A6 Ts need to know COPPA, FERPA, privacy policies-Ts should continue to seek great new learning opps. but also protect Ss.
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Q6: What are next steps we can take to turn negative feelings and attitudes into something positive?
#edtechchat
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:57 PM EDT
Interestingly, a lot of push from
#edtech
companies to find ambassadors, is to find Ts to help them study product/prove efficacy
#edtechchat
In reply to @teachemtothrive
DonWettrick
Sep 4 @ 8:57 PM EDT
I think we can ALL agree. The hype of "having" EdTech/new apps has been too long the shiny object- at the peril of creativity.
#EdTechChat
JaneViccellio
Sep 4 @ 8:57 PM EDT
How do we separate tech products from personal profit? Lots of food for thought tonight.
#edtechchat
#edt5334
TheTechRabbi
Sep 4 @ 8:57 PM EDT
Celebrity don't count. If you're already a celebrity, who cares to check? People doings great things in their industry not so.
#edtechchat
In reply to @RafranzDavis, @TheJLV
mrnesi
Sep 4 @ 8:57 PM EDT
But if you experience some success explosion who owns it all?
#edtechchat
In reply to @DonWettrick, @letsstartedup
akunce05
Sep 4 @ 8:57 PM EDT
My point was that with
#STEM
fields, one enters knowing the deal. In K-12 ed, it is murky and the pay-off is not available.
#edtechchat
In reply to @SchleiderJustin, @kobriengcs
EdTechTV
Sep 4 @ 8:57 PM EDT
Agh - I missed that
#edtechchat
was responding to the NYT Influencers article. Not contributing as I'm late, but lots of good ideas there!
CrownVictoria22
Sep 4 @ 8:57 PM EDT
So,
#EDTech
comps are blatantly abusing Ts by "paying" them w/ product. As gatekeepers, you let them play your Ss too! (thread)
#edtechchat
karenvaites
Sep 4 @ 8:57 PM EDT
#edtechchat
That time I got excited and my most important tweets had the wrong hashtag
#D
'OH
https://t.co/k94qu0sWDn
karenvaites
Sep 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
THIS. Just texted savvy K-12 peer about
#edtechbridge
. His reply: false understanding abt
@RafranzDavis
. NO ONE CAN TELL who's being paid!
TheJLV
Sep 4 @ 8:57 PM EDT
You’re right. That’s what’s the worst. Having more pennies than the next is enough for some folks.
#edtechchat
In reply to @RoxanneDes4ges
ZSharon
Sep 4 @ 8:58 PM EDT
There is no purchasing consistency - sometimes w/in districts or even schools. Therefore, edtech cos have to get creative :/
#edtechchat
kobriengcs
Sep 4 @ 8:58 PM EDT
A6: Continue talking about this, be an informed educator, make an effort to understand others
#edtechchat
TheWeirdTeacher
Sep 4 @ 8:58 PM EDT
#edtechchat
Be nice to know who is.
In reply to @karenvaites, @RafranzDavis, @nytimes
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Thanks for joining this week’s
#edtechchat
! Don’t forget to follow your new connections from tonight!
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Very interesting point? Do they reimburse you for all the extra school supplies you buy? ;)
#edtechchat
In reply to @akunce05, @CraftingHeroes, @nathan_stevens, @kobriengcs, @Sneffleupagus, @CatherineKU72, @Hypepraise, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
mrs_payne_art
Sep 4 @ 8:58 PM EDT
I am bothered by TPT if I am willing to share my lessons, I would rather share for free.
#edtechchat
In reply to @akunce05, @ajpodchaski, @CraftingHeroes, @nathan_stevens, @kobriengcs, @Sneffleupagus, @CatherineKU72, @Hypepraise, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
seanmarnold
Sep 4 @ 8:58 PM EDT
I finally started training Ts more outside my school and started a blog for that very reason-sometimes the solution is outside
#edtechchat
In reply to @EdTechNerd, @Hypepraise, @DennisDill, @nathan_stevens, @chrisjcluff, @ajpodchaski, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
WillStewartIV
Sep 4 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Many employees (programmers, UX, etc.) in the edtech industry make less than they would in enterprise/B2B/Consumer tech industry
#edtechchat
WEareLakotaTech
Sep 4 @ 8:58 PM EDT
#BigTech
brand loyalty can prevent S focus-there are so many different S needs “The right tool 4 the job” req a diverse toolbox
#edtechchat
Gregbagby
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Sooo a little bit different conversation about the first days o class. Join
#TnEdChat
tomorrow at 8pm ET
#edtechchat
juliedavisEDU
Sep 4 @ 1:01 PM EDT
We are baaack! Join us for
#TNedchat
tomorrow night at 8pm ET- one hour of discussion on a new school year.
@DanLyonsLFOmath
@ehlmstech
heidijlh
Sep 4 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Ugh. Yes, good for the T partner, not so much for all the other Ts?
#edtechchat
In reply to @JaneViccellio, @akunce05, @TheJLV
TheJLV
Sep 4 @ 8:58 PM EDT
But you wouldn’t say, based on the original e-mail, that some folks believe themselves rock stars? i.e. Edu-Celebrities?
#edtechchat
In reply to @TheTechRabbi, @RafranzDavis
sadieclorinda
Sep 4 @ 8:58 PM EDT
When applying for an Ambassador program, if the app asks how many Twitter followers you have...that's a red flag.
#edtechchat
MrHron
Sep 4 @ 8:58 PM EDT
A4: Similar to game design mechanics, quality teaching strategies are beyond IP. Good teaching cannot be protected by brand.
#EdTechChat
Hypepraise
Sep 4 @ 8:58 PM EDT
#edtechchat
old boys network still alive and well in too many places Ts are not given autonomy to make decisions
In reply to @DennisDill, @seanmarnold, @nathan_stevens, @chrisjcluff, @ajpodchaski, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
SchleiderJustin
Sep 4 @ 8:59 PM EDT
the pay off is teaching ss and help shaping the future.
#edtechchat
In reply to @akunce05, @kobriengcs
MRoarkPMP
Sep 4 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Only those that love to read legalese, my friend. AKA (2)
#EdTechChat
In reply to @nathan_stevens, @CraftingHeroes, @kobriengcs, @ajpodchaski, @Sneffleupagus, @CatherineKU72, @Hypepraise, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
MrTKruse
Sep 4 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Stop making it such a "business" feeling-tone.
#education
should start a service industry that gives all equal access.
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Q6: What are next steps we can take to turn negative feelings and attitudes into something positive?
#edtechchat
CatherineKU72
Sep 4 @ 8:59 PM EDT
#edtechchat
ipods, iPads, Chromebooks, microphones, headphones, green screens, in our class came from writing many curriculum-based grants.
JaneViccellio
Sep 4 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Pinterest, TPT, Google... We are taking it all on.
#edtechchat
#edt5334
kobriengcs
Sep 4 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Thanks for a great chat! A little hard to follow bc so much participation, but GREAT points made by all!
#edtechchat
ChristieNold
Sep 4 @ 8:59 PM EDT
A6. Jumping in late - negative feelings about what?
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Q6: What are next steps we can take to turn negative feelings and attitudes into something positive?
#edtechchat
TheJLV
Sep 4 @ 8:59 PM EDT
And you don’t think having 40K> followers on Twitter doesn’t give some folks leverage in discussions w/ corps and districts?
#edtechchat
In reply to @TheTechRabbi, @RafranzDavis
MusingsOnEdTech
Sep 4 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Cool. I will look it up. Also shows you value the training for it. Too many
#edtech
certs are too easy to obtain/mean zip.
#edtechchat
In reply to @MRoarkPMP, @CatherineKU72
Bec_Chirps
Sep 4 @ 8:59 PM EDT
#Whatif
more teachers sought National Board Certification to improve student learning instead of 1st focusing on tech.
#edtechchat
Hypepraise
Sep 4 @ 8:59 PM EDT
#edtechchat
but passive resistance doesn't necessarily equate to lack of implementation
In reply to @MRoarkPMP, @DennisDill, @seanmarnold, @nathan_stevens, @chrisjcluff, @ajpodchaski, @kobriengcs, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
ZSharon
Sep 4 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Yes! Some of us are creating transitory edtech that requires no training but capitalizes on the visual
https://t.co/bzaJN9WkyV
#edtechchat
DonWettrick
Sep 4 @ 8:57 PM EDT
I think we can ALL agree. The hype of "having" EdTech/new apps has been too long the shiny object- at the peril of creativity.
#EdTechChat
CrownVictoria22
Sep 4 @ 8:59 PM EDT
We have duty to protect our Ss, esp. those from vulnerable pops and communities. But keep it real- y'all just want the title!
#EdTechChat
JudyArzt
Sep 4 @ 8:59 PM EDT
The topic of tonight's
#edtechchat
is one we need to bring back to our schools & communities
In reply to @ajpodchaski
RafranzDavis
Sep 4 @ 8:59 PM EDT
In your experience, maybe it didn't. In mine, it has. In my own conversations with Edtech Companies, it mattered
#edtechchat
In reply to @TheTechRabbi, @TheJLV
mrterborg
Sep 4 @ 8:59 PM EDT
No. Most likely that would violate copyright restrictions.
#edtechchat
(Mike, MD, EL LMS)
In reply to @akunce05, @ajpodchaski, @CraftingHeroes, @nathan_stevens, @kobriengcs, @Sneffleupagus, @CatherineKU72, @Hypepraise, @s_bearden, @nytimes, @DennisDill, @iplante, @Gregbagby, @teachintechgal, @NancyWTech, @raspberryberet3, @AlexVKluge, @thomascmurray
MrTKruse
Sep 4 @ 9:00 PM EDT
A6: Stop making it such a "business" feeling-tone.
#education
should stay a service industry that gives all equal access.
#edtechchat
ajpodchaski
- Moderator
Sep 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Q6: What are next steps we can take to turn negative feelings and attitudes into something positive?
#edtechchat