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TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:00 PM EDT

Welcome to #NGSSchat. We’re so excited you’re joining us! Please remember to include #NGSSchat in your tweets!

2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:00 PM EDT

Please start by introducing yourselves with your name,what you do, and where you’re from! #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:00 PM EDT

I will be joined by @2footgiraffe tonight for a while while the amazing @FredEnde finishes up a webinar! #NGSSchat

In reply to @2footgiraffe, @FredEnde

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:01 PM EDT

We’ll be following a Q1/A1 format. Please respond to the question asked with an “A” and the number. #NGSSchat

2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:01 PM EDT

Adam Taylor Here for #NGSSchat trying to fill-in @FredEnde

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mncaudill2 Nov 3 @ 9:01 PM EDT

#NGSSchat Hi! Nicki from Ky --biology and biomedical teacher

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:01 PM EDT

Thanks for helping out tonight Adam! #NGSSchat

2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:01 PM EDT

Adam Taylor Here for #NGSSchat trying to fill-in @FredEnde
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TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Welcome Nicki #NGSSchat

In reply to @mncaudill2

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Bill Penuel here, Learning Sciences prof at CU Boulder will be in and out tonight as I cook dinner for family. #NGSSchat

karalu79 Nov 3 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Hi #ngsschat! Kara, teaching HS science in SW KS. :)

BKd204Sci Nov 3 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Hey @TdiShelton Brian Klaft, 8th gr. Aurora, IL @GrangerIPSD204 @ipsd204 Congrats @Cubs fans #ngsschat

In reply to @TdiShelton, @GrangerIPSD204, @ipsd204, @Cubs

NGSS_tweeps Nov 3 @ 9:02 PM EDT

This is @MrMusselman, K-5 science specialist and NGSS@NSTA hub curator. Moonlighting this evening as @ngss_tweeps on #ngsschat

In reply to @MrMusselman, @NGSS_tweeps

DedricMcghee Nov 3 @ 9:02 PM EDT

#ngsschat Dedric McGhee, Curriculum Support

MsVickScience Nov 3 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Nicole from IL high school science #NGSSchat

LPugh3 Nov 3 @ 9:02 PM EDT

LaToya from TN, Science Instructional Support #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Welcome Bill! #NGSSchat

In reply to @bpenuel

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Great to see you Kara! #NGSSchat

In reply to @karalu79

2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Hey Bill. good to see you #ngsschat

In reply to @bpenuel

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Thanks so much for joining us Brian! #NGSSchat

In reply to @BKd204Sci, @GrangerIPSD204, @ipsd204, @Cubs

2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:03 PM EDT

and I living the dream in TN #ngsschat

In reply to @LPugh3

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Thanks for joining us Sean! #NGSSchat

In reply to @NGSS_tweeps, @MrMusselman

2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:04 PM EDT

IL is also a great place! I lived close to Springfield for a couple years. #ngsschat

In reply to @MsVickScience

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Welcome Dedric! #NGSSchat

In reply to @DedricMcghee

MacSciFlyer Nov 3 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Greetings from Sacramento! Scott, K-8 science TOSA and former HS Teacher #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Welcome Nicole! #NGSSchat

In reply to @MsVickScience

MidlandSuptBW Nov 3 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Bill Wrenn, Superintendent from Illinois #gocubsgo #NGSSchat glad to join in tonight.

krademaker Nov 3 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Hi Kristin from Illinois here HS Life Science #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Great to see you LaToya! #NGSSchat

In reply to @LPugh3

kmgill135 Nov 3 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Kathy from CA, elementary science teacher. #ngsschat

NGSS_tweeps Nov 3 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Always a pleasure sharing virtual space with @TdiShelton and @2footgiraffe #ngsschat

In reply to @TdiShelton, @2footgiraffe

Mr_Oblon Nov 3 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Hi everyone! This is Joe, Integrated Sceince teacher from CT. Excited to learn about assessment tonight! #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Welcome Scott #NGSSchat

In reply to @MacSciFlyer

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Welcome Bill #NGSSchat

In reply to @MidlandSuptBW

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Welcome Kathy! #NGSSchat

In reply to @kmgill135

2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Hey Scott, #ngsschat

MacSciFlyer Nov 3 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Greetings from Sacramento! Scott, K-8 science TOSA and former HS Teacher #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Thanks for joining us Joe! #NGSSchat

In reply to @Mr_Oblon

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Likewise! #NGSSchat

In reply to @NGSS_tweeps, @2footgiraffe

biokathryn Nov 3 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Kathryn HS biology from Oregon #NGSSchat

tjscience Nov 3 @ 9:06 PM EDT

TJ from CT - Getting my serious science on... #NGSSchat

2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Hi Mr. Oblon, #ngsschat

Mr_Oblon Nov 3 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Hi everyone! This is Joe, Integrated Sceince teacher from CT. Excited to learn about assessment tonight! #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Question 1 coming up... #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Welcome Kathryn! #NGSSchat

In reply to @biokathryn

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Thanks for joining TJ #NGSSchat

In reply to @tjscience

2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Q1: What are the key elements of an effective grading system/framework/approach? #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:08 PM EDT

Join us on #NGSSchat happening now! Question 1 here!

2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Q1: What are the key elements of an effective grading system/framework/approach? #NGSSchat

HollyMcGoran Nov 3 @ 9:08 PM EDT

Holly from MI; very interested in tonight's topic! #NGSSchat

johnlab_ri Nov 3 @ 9:08 PM EDT

John Labriola Middle Science Rhode Island #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:09 PM EDT

We are still on Bend 1 but they LOVE it! Model making today! #NGSSchat

In reply to @bpenuel

Prosenteach Nov 3 @ 9:09 PM EDT

Hi! I am Lynn, a Lower School Science Coordinator from NJ #NGSSchat

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:09 PM EDT

A1: Begins with an idea about how student thinking might developed, focuses on qualities of thinking, not numbers! #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:09 PM EDT

Welcome Lynn! #NGSSchat

In reply to @Prosenteach

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:09 PM EDT

Welcome Holly! #NGSSchat

In reply to @HollyMcGoran

MsVickScience Nov 3 @ 9:09 PM EDT

A1 have exemplars created with corresponding rubrics #NGSSchat

Mr_Oblon Nov 3 @ 9:10 PM EDT

A1: Effective grading must give Ss clear feedback and identify areas for improvement (to improve skills and content understanding) #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:10 PM EDT

Welcome John #NGSSchat

In reply to @johnlab_ri

awrenn328 Nov 3 @ 9:10 PM EDT

@awrenn328 #NGSSchat. Joining from IL 7thgrade science.

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2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:10 PM EDT

Me too Holly, I have a lot to learn. Not really qualified to moderate #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:09 PM EDT

We are still on Bend 1 but they LOVE it! Model making today! #NGSSchat
In reply to @bpenuel

tjscience Nov 3 @ 9:11 PM EDT

.@bpenuel Why are you speaking Indonesian? #ngsschat #ngss

In reply to @bpenuel

karalu79 Nov 3 @ 9:11 PM EDT

A1: Effective grading practices show stakeholders what Ss know/understand, and what is still in progress. #sbg anyone? #ngsschat

Prosenteach Nov 3 @ 9:12 PM EDT

A1: Assessment should be transparent. Students should know what they are asked to do and know how to assess themselves. #ngsschat

2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:12 PM EDT

I doubt there is a state better represented than IL. Welcome April #NGSSchat

awrenn328 Nov 3 @ 9:10 PM EDT

@awrenn328 #NGSSchat. Joining from IL 7thgrade science.
In reply to @awrenn328

krademaker Nov 3 @ 9:12 PM EDT

A1 students must be given many opportunities to build understanding and form assessed often #ngsschat

emmytbots Nov 3 @ 9:12 PM EDT

Hi everyone! Coming in a little late! Emily from MI. I teach 2nd grade - no letter grades yet, but still interested in this topic! #NGSSchat

kmgill135 Nov 3 @ 9:12 PM EDT

A1: Grading system must reflect Ss understanding of all dimensions, not just content knowledge. #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:13 PM EDT

Love the focus on visible thinking in the #NGSS How do we support Ss in representing ideas in multiple ways? #NGSSchat

In reply to @bpenuel

LPugh3 Nov 3 @ 9:13 PM EDT

A1: Rubrics, Expectations must be clear, Modeling from teachers, Ss should able to show what mastery looks like in their own way #NGSSChat

2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Q1: What are the key elements of an effective grading system/framework/approach? #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:13 PM EDT

What is your approach to collecting and sharing exemplars in your district? #NGSSchat

In reply to @MsVickScience

BKd204Sci Nov 3 @ 9:13 PM EDT

A1 Effective grading needs to give Ss opportunity to express knowledge in varied ways #ngsschat

NGSS_tweeps Nov 3 @ 9:13 PM EDT

Assessments will need to be structured in way that Ts can tease out which dimensions Ss are and are not meeting expectations at #ngsschat

emmytbots Nov 3 @ 9:13 PM EDT

How do you structure this? What qualities of thinking are you looking for? Intriguing!! #ngsschat

In reply to @bpenuel

2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:14 PM EDT

@krademaker @Prosenteach Welcome Lynn, Emmy, Kristin #ngsschat

In reply to @emmytbots, @krademaker, @Prosenteach

biokathryn Nov 3 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A1 Providing different modes for Ss to demonstrate understanding and quick turn-around on feedback, in the moment if possible! #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:14 PM EDT

Where do you look for support in determining what feedback to share for the #NGSS ? #NGSSchat

In reply to @Mr_Oblon

Mr_Oblon Nov 3 @ 9:14 PM EDT

I'm making a note of this for when we write our curriculum. Too often grading is centered on content knowledge. #NGSSchat

In reply to @kmgill135

richbacolor Nov 3 @ 9:15 PM EDT

Really, where else but #ngsschat do you get this kind of banter?

In reply to @bpenuel, @TdiShelton

MsVickScience Nov 3 @ 9:15 PM EDT

@TdiShelton I am just going to start the process of introducing Ts to NGSS this year - haven't developed it yet #NGSSchat

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DougHodum Nov 3 @ 9:15 PM EDT

A1. Clarity for the students and for us as teachers. #ngsschat

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TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:15 PM EDT

Love the focus on stakeholder communication #NGSS grades can look very different from their experience in school #NGSSchat

In reply to @karalu79

MacSciFlyer Nov 3 @ 9:15 PM EDT

A1 Ensure plentiful opportunity for Ss to use academic vocab, and math in class and formative assessment #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:16 PM EDT

How do you support transparency in the #NGSS era w/ Ss? What do those convos look like? #NGSSchat

In reply to @Prosenteach

MidlandSuptBW Nov 3 @ 9:16 PM EDT

Good assessment provides feedback to give students the opportunity to improve and develop better understanding #NGSSchat

btlang20 Nov 3 @ 9:16 PM EDT

#NGSSchat A1:Ss need to know the grading practices, rubrics, form or sum.

VogelWendi Nov 3 @ 9:16 PM EDT

Hi all! Wendi from Kent Co, MI. Science Consultant. Just put kiddos to bed. #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:17 PM EDT

Love that! Provide multiple opps: express, clarify, justify, represent ideas #NGSSchat

In reply to @krademaker

BMSscienceteach Nov 3 @ 9:17 PM EDT

How is everyone doing tonight? Patrick from Lexington, KY. 8th grade science. #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:17 PM EDT

Welcome Emily! Thanks for joining #NGSSchat

In reply to @emmytbots

NGSSchat - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:17 PM EDT

Question 2 will be here shortly #ngsschat

2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:17 PM EDT

Question 2 will be here shortly #ngsschat

richbacolor Nov 3 @ 9:17 PM EDT

A1: More of a question than an answer, what are the goals of assigning grades? Is it different than feedback? #ngsschat

emmytbots Nov 3 @ 9:17 PM EDT

CER has always been hard for me to break down into concrete, simple steps for 8YOs! Still working on it tho #ngsschat

In reply to @BKd204Sci, @bpenuel

NGSS_tweeps Nov 3 @ 9:18 PM EDT

A1 Modeling practices will be key if you want Ss to ultimately practice science effectively. #ngsschat

Mr_Oblon Nov 3 @ 9:18 PM EDT

Last yr Ts did PLC work around quality feedback. Specific feedback on where to expand ideas was most beneficial. #NGSSchat

In reply to @TdiShelton

mbarmstr Nov 3 @ 9:18 PM EDT

Hi Patrick!#NGSSchat

In reply to @BMSscienceteach

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:19 PM EDT

Agreed. Always looking for ways to communicate expectations in all 3 dimensions for Ss new to #NGSS learning #NGSSchat

In reply to @kmgill135

mbarmstr Nov 3 @ 9:19 PM EDT

Mary Beth Armstrong from KY. I teach 8th grade science. #ngsschat

kmgill135 Nov 3 @ 9:19 PM EDT

A1: We switched to SBG. Much better way to evaluate S understanding of NGSS #ngsschat

richbacolor Nov 3 @ 9:19 PM EDT

@sci_cieniuch Had a nice morning today with Chad M. talking #NGSS. Sounds like good things happening at Upton! #ngsschat

In reply to @sci_cieniuch

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:19 PM EDT

2A How did you approach assigning grades to indicate student progress pre-#NGSS ? #NGSSchat

emmytbots Nov 3 @ 9:19 PM EDT

I'll check it out! Thanks! #ngsschat

In reply to @BKd204Sci, @bpenuel

Prosenteach Nov 3 @ 9:20 PM EDT

I am trying to figure that out. I think it starts with lots of SEP practice and examining thinking and learning. #NGSSchat

In reply to @TdiShelton

awrenn328 Nov 3 @ 9:20 PM EDT

Ss need choice to explore and present learning in different modalities. #NGSSchat

2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:20 PM EDT

what has worked with CER so far with your students? #ngsschat

In reply to @emmytbots, @BKd204Sci, @bpenuel

VogelWendi Nov 3 @ 9:20 PM EDT

A1 Would love 2 see grading overhauled 2 Ss knowing where they r at compared to target. I get stuck w/ how. Formatives necessary. #ngsschat

emmytbots Nov 3 @ 9:21 PM EDT

Collected some great video of my kids explaining their investigations this week! Tells so much more than their writing! #NGSSchat

In reply to @BKd204Sci

HollyMcGoran Nov 3 @ 9:21 PM EDT

Great questions! Interested in others' thoughts. I definitely provide more feedback than grades #NGSSchat

In reply to @richbacolor

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:21 PM EDT

That's a constant growth area for me/ supporting Ss making Ss thinking visible + determine #NGSS observable evidence in 3D #NGSSchat

In reply to @LPugh3

btlang20 Nov 3 @ 9:21 PM EDT

Hello, Bridget Lang from MD just starting out w/Earth Science 6th grade this year. #ngsschat

mbarmstr Nov 3 @ 9:21 PM EDT

What is SBG?#NGSSchat

In reply to @kmgill135

NGSS_tweeps Nov 3 @ 9:21 PM EDT

.@kmgill135 YES, SBG at our elem schools too. Can be more work for Ts, but clearer for Ss and their families for sure. #ngsschat

In reply to @kmgill135

MidlandSuptBW Nov 3 @ 9:22 PM EDT

Was this teacher generated or did someone come in and provide intruction to the PLC? #NGSSchat

In reply to @Mr_Oblon

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:22 PM EDT

I am loving https://t.co/EW5cxE1EBQ to give quick feedback on Ss thinking #NGSSchat

In reply to @biokathryn

DougHodum Nov 3 @ 9:22 PM EDT

A2. I used traditional grades, & still do to a large degree. I will have to see about SBG when I return to the teaching next year. #ngsschat

emmytbots Nov 3 @ 9:22 PM EDT

Integrating into @TCRWP science writing unit, tying claim to the problem we're investigating+ #NGSSchat

In reply to @2footgiraffe, @BKd204Sci, @bpenuel, @TCRWP

2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:22 PM EDT

I hear ya! #ngsschat - I can't wait till students do it for the learning #ngsschat

In reply to @VogelWendi

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:23 PM EDT

Key elements to an effective grading system #NGSSchat

DougHodum Nov 3 @ 9:15 PM EDT

A1. Clarity for the students and for us as teachers. #ngsschat

NGSS_tweeps Nov 3 @ 9:23 PM EDT

In many ways I find SBG to be the ultimate practice for developing proficiency in "arguing with evidence." #ngsschat

melie_colleen Nov 3 @ 9:23 PM EDT

Hi! Colleen, Science Consultant from Chicago suburbs. #NGSSchat

2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:23 PM EDT

I believe SBG is Standards Based Grading. @kmgill135 #ngsschat

In reply to @mbarmstr, @kmgill135

emmytbots Nov 3 @ 9:23 PM EDT

+and using micro progressions to break down reasoning. So far it has been a huge improvement! #NGSSchat

In reply to @2footgiraffe, @BKd204Sci, @bpenuel

Prosenteach Nov 3 @ 9:23 PM EDT

Trying to change culture from grades to feedback / SBG / metacognition is hard for Ss, Ts, and Parents. #ngsschat

biokathryn Nov 3 @ 9:23 PM EDT

yes! I'm using goformative a lot this year! Love using it to see students thoughts all at once and in the moment! #ngsschat

In reply to @TdiShelton

kmgill135 Nov 3 @ 9:23 PM EDT

I am finding it easier - if I have a well designed 3D assessment and a good rubric. #ngsschat

NGSS_tweeps Nov 3 @ 9:21 PM EDT

.@kmgill135 YES, SBG at our elem schools too. Can be more work for Ts, but clearer for Ss and their families for sure. #ngsschat
In reply to @kmgill135

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:23 PM EDT

Need anchoring phenomena, otherwise CER can become rote. The need for the reason is easily lost! #NGSSchat

In reply to @emmytbots, @BKd204Sci

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:23 PM EDT

Welcome Wendi! I am visiting your great state tonight! #NGSSchat

In reply to @VogelWendi

VogelWendi Nov 3 @ 9:23 PM EDT

I used https://t.co/12LF1QQvCO too. I think the newer version is easier to use as well. #ngsschat

In reply to @TdiShelton, @biokathryn

2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:24 PM EDT

Another IL Educator! #ngsschat Welcome

melie_colleen Nov 3 @ 9:23 PM EDT

Hi! Colleen, Science Consultant from Chicago suburbs. #NGSSchat

VogelWendi Nov 3 @ 9:24 PM EDT

Awesome! Where are you hanging out? #ngsschat

In reply to @TdiShelton

richbacolor Nov 3 @ 9:24 PM EDT

Using Modeling, Argumentation, & Explanation cycles are inherently formative. Summative is harder. #ngsschat

In reply to @2footgiraffe, @VogelWendi

LPugh3 Nov 3 @ 9:24 PM EDT

My team and I have been living out of the book Making Thinking Visible to help teachers make this shift. #NGSSchat

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TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:24 PM EDT

not in my mind, but I think it can be on a system level. Do we need to push that thinking more? #NGSSchat

In reply to @richbacolor

richbacolor Nov 3 @ 9:24 PM EDT

@btlang20 What’s your go to message to parents around that? #ngsschat

In reply to @btlang20

mbarmstr Nov 3 @ 9:25 PM EDT

I can't keep up with all of the acronyms! Thank you! #NGSSchat

In reply to @Prosenteach, @kmgill135

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:25 PM EDT

Welcome Mary Beth! #NGSSchat

In reply to @mbarmstr

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:25 PM EDT

More than #CER, really tasks need to reflect full range of practices....CER just relates to argument #NGSSchat

In reply to @BKd204Sci, @emmytbots

VogelWendi Nov 3 @ 9:25 PM EDT

Agree they r formative, but not always easy way to "grade", which we shouldn't do w/ formative anyway. #ngsschat

In reply to @richbacolor, @2footgiraffe

emmytbots Nov 3 @ 9:25 PM EDT

So when you say qualities of thinking, do you mean ability to represent abstract ideas? #ngsschat

In reply to @bpenuel, @2footgiraffe, @BKd204Sci

2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:25 PM EDT

I love the sound of what you are doing. I am so in love with CER! I need to put more time into it. #ngsschat

emmytbots Nov 3 @ 9:23 PM EDT

+and using micro progressions to break down reasoning. So far it has been a huge improvement! #NGSSchat
In reply to @2footgiraffe, @BKd204Sci, @bpenuel

btlang20 Nov 3 @ 9:25 PM EDT

huge disconnect between grades and proficiency. We need a better system. #ngsschat

In reply to @richbacolor

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:25 PM EDT

Agreed. I have been using SBG and recording proficiencies through the practices #NGSSchat

In reply to @kmgill135

sci_cieniuch Nov 3 @ 9:25 PM EDT

For quick feedback (check for understanding) I love goformative, quizlet live, kahoot, and other interactive sites. MS Ss love it #ngsschat

VogelWendi Nov 3 @ 9:23 PM EDT

I used https://t.co/12LF1QQvCO too. I think the newer version is easier to use as well. #ngsschat
In reply to @TdiShelton, @biokathryn

MidlandSuptBW Nov 3 @ 9:26 PM EDT

SBG gives more appropriate feedback as to understanding of material. Traditional grades just a basic comparison. #NGSSchat

DougHodum Nov 3 @ 9:22 PM EDT

A2. I used traditional grades, & still do to a large degree. I will have to see about SBG when I return to the teaching next year. #ngsschat

krademaker Nov 3 @ 9:26 PM EDT

A2 I have started to only give feedback on some assessments Ss have to read, reflect, and rethink before they get their grade. #ngsschat

richbacolor Nov 3 @ 9:26 PM EDT

Yeah, I mean, an A used to mean a S who could memorize a bunch of stuff…at least it did when I was a S. #ngsschat

In reply to @TdiShelton

DougHodum Nov 3 @ 9:26 PM EDT

.@MidlandSuptBW I certainly agree with that to some degree. I am still wrestling with my own mindset about it. #ngsschat

In reply to @MidlandSuptBW

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:26 PM EDT

Welcome Bridget! Thanks for joining #NGSSchat

In reply to @btlang20

frizzlerichard Nov 3 @ 9:27 PM EDT

@VogelWendi @TdiShelton @biokathryn I like dot storming for this purpose too #ngsschat

In reply to @sci_cieniuch, @VogelWendi, @TdiShelton, @biokathryn

Prosenteach Nov 3 @ 9:27 PM EDT

How many teachers and how are you using the book? #NGSSchat

In reply to @LPugh3

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:27 PM EDT

This depends on where kids start, and what they've learned. No formulas, #NGSSchat #Vygotsky #ZPD

In reply to @biokathryn, @emmytbots, @BKd204Sci

emmytbots Nov 3 @ 9:27 PM EDT

I haven't heard of this! Is it on the NGSS site? Or somewhere I can find out more? #ngsschat

In reply to @bpenuel, @2footgiraffe, @BKd204Sci

frizzlerichard Nov 3 @ 9:27 PM EDT

Meg from Kansas City joining late #ngsschat

MidlandSuptBW Nov 3 @ 9:27 PM EDT

@btlang20 you're dead on! #ngsschat

In reply to @btlang20

btlang20 Nov 3 @ 9:25 PM EDT

huge disconnect between grades and proficiency. We need a better system. #ngsschat
In reply to @richbacolor

richbacolor Nov 3 @ 9:27 PM EDT

How’s it going? Organized by PE or by Bundle? #ngsschat

In reply to @kmgill135

VogelWendi Nov 3 @ 9:28 PM EDT

Hmm..haven't seen this one yet. #ngsschat

In reply to @frizzlerichard, @sci_cieniuch, @TdiShelton, @biokathryn

btlang20 Nov 3 @ 9:28 PM EDT

growth model, lots of formatives, and building relationships with PS and ss #ngsschat

In reply to @richbacolor

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:28 PM EDT

Agreed! It is so important to have and communicate an #NGSS WHY for stakeholders! #NGSSchat

Prosenteach Nov 3 @ 9:23 PM EDT

Trying to change culture from grades to feedback / SBG / metacognition is hard for Ss, Ts, and Parents. #ngsschat

BKd204Sci Nov 3 @ 9:28 PM EDT

What is the Q2 #ngsschat

sci_cieniuch Nov 3 @ 9:28 PM EDT

@frizzlerichard Haven't heard of that one yet! Bookmarking now! #ngsschat

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frizzlerichard Nov 3 @ 9:27 PM EDT

@VogelWendi @TdiShelton @biokathryn I like dot storming for this purpose too #ngsschat
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2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:28 PM EDT

Grades are a fickle beast. So many people, students, teachers, and parents use grades as a mark of intelligence. #ngsschat #hoopjumping

LPugh3 Nov 3 @ 9:28 PM EDT

myself and our science coaches are reading the book. We support teachers through coaching, modeling, and PD. #NGSSchat

In reply to @Prosenteach

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:28 PM EDT

MSU #NGSSchat

In reply to @VogelWendi

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:28 PM EDT

Different ways of thinking about phenomena: https://t.co/h36pMcIWx0 #NGSSchat

In reply to @emmytbots, @2footgiraffe, @BKd204Sci

emmytbots Nov 3 @ 9:28 PM EDT

I can send you a pic of our micro progression tomorrow if you want. :) #ngsschat

In reply to @biokathryn

2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:29 PM EDT

Question 3 coming to a tweeter feed near you. #ngsschat

NGSSchat - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:29 PM EDT

Question 3 coming to a tweeter feed near you. #ngsschat

DougHodum Nov 3 @ 9:29 PM EDT

.@2footgiraffe So true! They should show growth and learning...not an indicator of intelligence at all! #ngsschat

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Mr_Oblon Nov 3 @ 9:29 PM EDT

A2. Assessments used to be more 'fact' based. Last 3 yrs saw a shift to a performance based assessment (application of knowledge). #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:29 PM EDT

Agreed! Much harder for me! #NGSSchat

In reply to @richbacolor, @2footgiraffe, @VogelWendi

karalu79 Nov 3 @ 9:29 PM EDT

A2: When I first started teaching, I was pretty traditional. I started switching to #sbg 5 years ago. Now I do a "mix" #ngsschat

emmytbots Nov 3 @ 9:29 PM EDT

Yay! Thank you!!! #ngsschat

In reply to @bpenuel, @2footgiraffe, @BKd204Sci, @theNASEM

HollyMcGoran Nov 3 @ 9:30 PM EDT

Hadn't heard of dotstorming before...thanks for sharing! #NGSSchat

In reply to @frizzlerichard, @sci_cieniuch, @VogelWendi, @TdiShelton, @biokathryn

kmgill135 Nov 3 @ 9:30 PM EDT

With my 4th graders we still do reasoning part together. They are getting better at the evidence. #ngsschat

emmytbots Nov 3 @ 9:17 PM EDT

CER has always been hard for me to break down into concrete, simple steps for 8YOs! Still working on it tho #ngsschat
In reply to @BKd204Sci, @bpenuel

mbarmstr Nov 3 @ 9:30 PM EDT

Two of my colleagues are going to KSTA. I will send them your way!#ngsschat

In reply to @BMSscienceteach

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:30 PM EDT

Q3 What should count as evidence of student learning/understanding in an #NGSS classroom? How do you grade it? #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:30 PM EDT

Welcome Meg! #NGSSchat

In reply to @frizzlerichard

NGSS_tweeps Nov 3 @ 9:31 PM EDT

A3 Evidence comes in a lot more forms these days than paper and pencil, that's for sure. #ngsschat

mbarmstr Nov 3 @ 9:31 PM EDT

How are your Ss doing with the switch?#NGSSchat

In reply to @Mr_Oblon

VogelWendi Nov 3 @ 9:31 PM EDT

Or Kent County. Who says you get first dibs? Statewide tour? :) #ngsschat

In reply to @richbacolor, @TdiShelton

kmgill135 Nov 3 @ 9:31 PM EDT

It depends. Trying to move to using multiple PEs. #ngsschat

richbacolor Nov 3 @ 9:27 PM EDT

How’s it going? Organized by PE or by Bundle? #ngsschat
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biokathryn Nov 3 @ 9:32 PM EDT

A3 I like the resources from https://t.co/bHZJw79v33 for inspiration! #ngsschat

BKd204Sci Nov 3 @ 9:32 PM EDT

A3 Any Ss work that shows their progression of understanding. I use simple rubrics that Ss can easily understand #ngsschat

In reply to @TdiShelton

Mr_Oblon Nov 3 @ 9:32 PM EDT

A3. I emphasize the difference between "describe" and "explain." I'm looking 4 reasoning with evidence, not just a rehash of data #NGSSchat

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:32 PM EDT

#3 Evidence: What students say, do, write, that indicates movement toward PEs #ngsschat 1/2

MsVickScience Nov 3 @ 9:32 PM EDT

A3 Everything is evidence - discussions, writing, drawing, etc... - when Ss share ideas, that shows learning & understanding #ngsschat

krademaker Nov 3 @ 9:32 PM EDT

A3 anything can be used as evidence how its used should depend on where Ss are in their learning - just intro or close to end #ngsschat

richbacolor Nov 3 @ 9:32 PM EDT

CER= explanation too, no? Easier for Ts to adapt assessments to CER. Other SEPs + CCCs harder. #ngsschat

In reply to @bpenuel, @BKd204Sci, @emmytbots

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:33 PM EDT

I love using apps and media tools to capture Ss conversations as evidence of understanding! #NGSSchat

In reply to @NGSS_tweeps

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:33 PM EDT

A3: Evidence from students that they know why they are doing what they are doing, and that it's relevant to them #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:33 PM EDT

Absolutely fantastic resources! #NGSSchat

biokathryn Nov 3 @ 9:32 PM EDT

A3 I like the resources from https://t.co/bHZJw79v33 for inspiration! #ngsschat

BKd204Sci Nov 3 @ 9:33 PM EDT

#ngsschat A3 Models, diagrams, short writing prompts all work. Differentiation is important to hit all learning styles

richbacolor Nov 3 @ 9:33 PM EDT

Many Ts would love to hear more about your transition process. #NGSSBlogs post? #ngsschat

In reply to @kmgill135

awrenn328 Nov 3 @ 9:34 PM EDT

Evidence of learning can be at all degrees. Depending on what you are assessing. #NGSSchat

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:34 PM EDT

A3: For pre-assessment: What are student interests and experiences that are relevant to PEs to be mastered #ngsschat

NGSS_tweeps Nov 3 @ 9:34 PM EDT

Yes! Tools that incorporate audio, video, and annotation can make assessment more authentic and broaden possibilities. #ngsschat

In reply to @TdiShelton

Mr_Oblon Nov 3 @ 9:34 PM EDT

As a 2nd yr teacher, I don't have much to compare to. I do know initially it was challenging for Ss to adjust. #NGSSchat

In reply to @mbarmstr

VogelWendi Nov 3 @ 9:34 PM EDT

Agree, & watching as a teacher/parent, it's hard wait 4 this huge shift that needs 2 happen. What does my child know how 2 apply? #ngsschat

2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:28 PM EDT

Grades are a fickle beast. So many people, students, teachers, and parents use grades as a mark of intelligence. #ngsschat #hoopjumping

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:34 PM EDT

Love the evolving understanding- powerful artifact 4 Ts to formative assess + Ss to feel empowered by growth #NGSSchat

In reply to @BKd204Sci

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:35 PM EDT

It's mostly argumentation...from Toulmin https://t.co/Cg2vtTdwMa #NGSSchat

In reply to @richbacolor, @BKd204Sci, @emmytbots

richbacolor Nov 3 @ 9:35 PM EDT

A3: Million dollar question. Can anyone help me use and develop a model of this? #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:30 PM EDT

Q3 What should count as evidence of student learning/understanding in an #NGSS classroom? How do you grade it? #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:35 PM EDT

Evidence of Ss learning in the #NGSS #NGSSchat

MsVickScience Nov 3 @ 9:32 PM EDT

A3 Everything is evidence - discussions, writing, drawing, etc... - when Ss share ideas, that shows learning & understanding #ngsschat

MidlandSuptBW Nov 3 @ 9:35 PM EDT

A3: Students need to be able to explain concept through student choice. It's graded on SBG scale 1-4 or 0-5. #NGSSchat

biokathryn Nov 3 @ 9:36 PM EDT

Yes, I'm embracing the multiple definitions of "model" in assessment. #ngsschat

In reply to @BKd204Sci

btlang20 Nov 3 @ 9:36 PM EDT

A3: A variety of asimnts which require S's to demonstrate standards, crosscut etc. Rubrics w/ clearly defined concepts/stand. #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:30 PM EDT

Q3 What should count as evidence of student learning/understanding in an #NGSS classroom? How do you grade it? #NGSSchat

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:36 PM EDT

The hard part of SEPs is why we made this: https://t.co/LbE1dlOrjQ #NGSSchat

In reply to @richbacolor, @BKd204Sci, @emmytbots

frizzlerichard Nov 3 @ 9:36 PM EDT

A3: I think it comes from mastery of the DCI; but a rubric of mastery that also reflects some sort of learning progression #ngsschat

2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:36 PM EDT

YES! #ngsschat

VogelWendi Nov 3 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Agree, & watching as a teacher/parent, it's hard wait 4 this huge shift that needs 2 happen. What does my child know how 2 apply? #ngsschat
- 2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:28 PM EDT
  
  Grades are a fickle beast. So many people, students, teachers, and parents use grades as a mark of intelligence. #ngsschat #hoopjumping

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:36 PM EDT

And for CCCs, this: https://t.co/WJTG8cv8rF #NGSSchat

In reply to @richbacolor, @BKd204Sci, @emmytbots

VogelWendi Nov 3 @ 9:36 PM EDT

Definitely. Pictures, talking, applying, showing, thinking aloud, I could go on and on...#ngsschat

NGSS_tweeps Nov 3 @ 9:31 PM EDT

A3 Evidence comes in a lot more forms these days than paper and pencil, that's for sure. #ngsschat

MacSciFlyer Nov 3 @ 9:37 PM EDT

A3 Verbal discussion, drawing of models, written explanation with rich acadecmic vocab #ngsschat

LPugh3 Nov 3 @ 9:37 PM EDT

I definitely agree with you! There are many ways to show understanding of a science concept #NGSSchat

In reply to @BKd204Sci

frizzlerichard Nov 3 @ 9:37 PM EDT

great idea! This would help with the progression of their models for example. I like it! #NGSSchat

In reply to @bpenuel

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:37 PM EDT

We have been working w/ Ss to data mine initial models & develop criteria to use to give feedback on mid-unit models #NGSSchat

In reply to @richbacolor

mbarmstr Nov 3 @ 9:37 PM EDT

My Ss still need assistance with performance assessments. It helps to do a portion of the assessment in small groups. #ngsschat

In reply to @Mr_Oblon

HollyMcGoran Nov 3 @ 9:38 PM EDT

Great resources for assessing 3D learning! #NGSSchat

biokathryn Nov 3 @ 9:32 PM EDT

A3 I like the resources from https://t.co/bHZJw79v33 for inspiration! #ngsschat

BKd204Sci Nov 3 @ 9:38 PM EDT

We have so much diversity in Ss they all have a strength & way of expression #ngsschat

In reply to @LPugh3

VogelWendi Nov 3 @ 9:38 PM EDT

SEPs and CCCs are progressive in grade span too. Even more challenging. #ngsschat

In reply to @richbacolor, @bpenuel, @BKd204Sci, @emmytbots

kmgill135 Nov 3 @ 9:38 PM EDT

This has been the basis for my assessments. #NGSSchat

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:36 PM EDT

The hard part of SEPs is why we made this: https://t.co/LbE1dlOrjQ #NGSSchat
In reply to @richbacolor, @BKd204Sci, @emmytbots

DougHodum Nov 3 @ 9:38 PM EDT

A3. I think evidence depends on the learning objectives. Some should be on their own. Others might be collaborative. #ngsschat

2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:38 PM EDT

Question 4 is soon at the door #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:39 PM EDT

Q4: How does the NGSS impact the role of the teacher in the grading process? #NGSSchat

Prosenteach Nov 3 @ 9:39 PM EDT

How do we guide Ss to be learners and seek growth? So often they want the answers to be given not self developed. #NGSSchat

In reply to @TdiShelton

emmytbots Nov 3 @ 9:39 PM EDT

A3 Every day I have evidence bc kids are DOING science! Video is a great way to capture! #NGSSchat https://t.co/lxMhavBEaJ

DougHodum Nov 3 @ 9:39 PM EDT

A4. I think it could diminish our role, as Ss should be able to assess their own learning and progress toward the standard. #ngsschat

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:40 PM EDT

Very much aware of that! CER is important, but what matters is explaining phenom #NGSSchat

In reply to @richbacolor, @BKd204Sci, @emmytbots, @krajcikjoe

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:40 PM EDT

We try to build a culture of building collective understanding/right + responsibility to support learning of all #NGSSchat

In reply to @Prosenteach

MsVickScience Nov 3 @ 9:40 PM EDT

A4 Requires more feedback to Ss than I think we did in the past. Inc Ss & Ts collaboration to show growth #ngsschat

DougHodum Nov 3 @ 9:41 PM EDT

.@BKd204Sci Great point. It should reflect understanding and progress. #ngsschat

In reply to @BKd204Sci

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:41 PM EDT

I would love that! #NGSSchat

In reply to @richbacolor, @VogelWendi

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:41 PM EDT

In our task formats and CCC tools, we try to order by difficulty #NGSSchat

In reply to @VogelWendi, @richbacolor, @BKd204Sci, @emmytbots

tjscience Nov 3 @ 9:41 PM EDT

Trying to keep up but also finishing up my questions for the 'busters. Moderating the event @Jorgensen_UConn tomorrow... #NGSSchat

Prosenteach Nov 3 @ 9:41 PM EDT

A4: More feedback and advice to improve and develope Ss metacognition. #ngsschat

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:42 PM EDT

A4: Role of teacher: Varying scaffolding level for getting students to do heavy lifting of building explanatory models, solv probs #NGSSchat

VogelWendi Nov 3 @ 9:42 PM EDT

A3 I think evidence of learning has to be checked with what learning from Ss is evident in what the Ts unpacked from Framework. #ngsschat

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:42 PM EDT

A4: Eliciting student interests and experiences related to phenomena #NGSSchat

KRScienceLady Nov 3 @ 9:42 PM EDT

A4 How can Ss demonstrate proficiency? Can Ts provide feedback and score S understanding on a proficiency scale #ngsschat

kmgill135 Nov 3 @ 9:42 PM EDT

A4: Less grading and providing more opportunities for feedback from teacher, peers, and self. #ngsschat

krademaker Nov 3 @ 9:42 PM EDT

A4 Grade should not be looked at as a final judgement but as a gauge of where Ss is at that point - & how do they grow from there #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:43 PM EDT

Agreed! and I am taking >time thinking about the Qs I ask & how they support (or do not) Ss built understand #NGSSchat

In reply to @MsVickScience

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:43 PM EDT

A4: Providing feedback to improve, using progressions or facets as basis for feedback #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:43 PM EDT

Love the focus of #NGSS on conceptual understanding #NGSSchat

In reply to @Prosenteach

richbacolor Nov 3 @ 9:43 PM EDT

A4: Don’t most tchr eval models put “Students can self-assess” at Jedi-level? So teachers help Ss get meta about science? #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:39 PM EDT

Q4: How does the NGSS impact the role of the teacher in the grading process? #NGSSchat

frizzlerichard Nov 3 @ 9:44 PM EDT

A4: I feel this is where #ngss lends itself to sbg but we haven't made the shift. #NGSSchat

MacSciFlyer Nov 3 @ 9:44 PM EDT

A4 Tough one....could take 2-3 years. 3D learning has a noticeable impact on our outllook #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:44 PM EDT

Love this! #NGSSchat

krademaker Nov 3 @ 9:42 PM EDT

A4 Grade should not be looked at as a final judgement but as a gauge of where Ss is at that point - & how do they grow from there #ngsschat

emmytbots Nov 3 @ 9:44 PM EDT

Yes!!! They really are able to articulate what they know and can do once they know what is expected! #NGSSchat

In reply to @DougHodum

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:44 PM EDT

What did they struggle with? What were the strengths of their critiques? Thinking with #facetsofmodelingpractice #NGSSchat

In reply to @biokathryn

Mr_Oblon Nov 3 @ 9:44 PM EDT

As a result, I feel assessments measure both content AND ability to apply that content (which I consider a good thing) #NGSSchat

In reply to @mbarmstr

envirojer Nov 3 @ 9:44 PM EDT

Provide #Feedback. Grades and points set minimum bars and kids underwhelm:( #ngsschat case studies and written reflection.

BKd204Sci Nov 3 @ 9:32 PM EDT

A3 Any Ss work that shows their progression of understanding. I use simple rubrics that Ss can easily understand #ngsschat
In reply to @TdiShelton

MsVickScience Nov 3 @ 9:44 PM EDT

Developing Qs that show learning progression and growth takes a lot of thought & time! #ngsschat

In reply to @TdiShelton

KRScienceLady Nov 3 @ 9:45 PM EDT

We aren't there yet #ngsschat

frizzlerichard Nov 3 @ 9:44 PM EDT

A4: I feel this is where #ngss lends itself to sbg but we haven't made the shift. #NGSSchat

2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A measure of "Not yet" #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Love this! #NGSSchat
- krademaker Nov 3 @ 9:42 PM EDT
  
  A4 Grade should not be looked at as a final judgement but as a gauge of where Ss is at that point - & how do they grow from there #ngsschat

VogelWendi Nov 3 @ 9:45 PM EDT

And a great way to share understanding as group of Ts. What are we doing well? How could we do it better? #ngsschat

emmytbots Nov 3 @ 9:39 PM EDT

A3 Every day I have evidence bc kids are DOING science! Video is a great way to capture! #NGSSchat https://t.co/lxMhavBEaJ

richbacolor Nov 3 @ 9:45 PM EDT

Agree 100%. Yet, we know the GPA is used for other reasons in many systems. How to shift all parts? #ngsschat

In reply to @krademaker

frizzlerichard Nov 3 @ 9:45 PM EDT

How does this Ss reflection impact pacing? I knows it's vital but how does one know when to move on in this model? #NGSSchat

2footgiraffe Nov 3 @ 9:46 PM EDT

Question 5 is knocking at the door. #ngsschat

MidlandSuptBW Nov 3 @ 9:46 PM EDT

A4: Feedback & guidance become more important. Encourage the process & 4Cs. Assess improvement, not specific right or wrong #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:39 PM EDT

Q4: How does the NGSS impact the role of the teacher in the grading process? #NGSSchat

krademaker Nov 3 @ 9:46 PM EDT

For sure and much trial and error, but it is so worth it in the end #ngsschat

In reply to @MsVickScience, @TdiShelton

btlang20 Nov 3 @ 9:46 PM EDT

#ngsschat S's cntrd is my goal, provides better limits for each strand.

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:39 PM EDT

Q4: How does the NGSS impact the role of the teacher in the grading process? #NGSSchat

emmytbots Nov 3 @ 9:46 PM EDT

This has to start in elem and be carried forward in MS and HS. My kiddos love the challenge of discovery! #ngsschat

In reply to @Prosenteach, @TdiShelton

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:47 PM EDT

Q5: What are the key ideas to communicate to admin/parents/students about an #NGSS grading framework? #NGSSchat

KRScienceLady Nov 3 @ 9:47 PM EDT

A4# the power of not yet , I'm learning but I need more practice or new, different instruction #NGSSchat

Mr_Oblon Nov 3 @ 9:47 PM EDT

A4. Ts grade to indicate Ss progress on content, communication skills, and timeliness of work. Opportunity for revision is key. #NGSSchat

VogelWendi Nov 3 @ 9:48 PM EDT

YES! Adding that Ts need to think ahead each day on what and how to ask Qs so we don't get caught in the telling of knowledge. #ngsschat

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:42 PM EDT

A4: Role of teacher: Varying scaffolding level for getting students to do heavy lifting of building explanatory models, solv probs #NGSSchat

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:48 PM EDT

Q5: Fabulous question: Show them student work, Engage THEM w phenomena, say that's what you're doing in class #NGSSchat

DougHodum Nov 3 @ 9:48 PM EDT

A5. I am guessing at this, but I think clear expectations and laying out how things are being done. #ngsschat Open communication

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:48 PM EDT

Open communication is always key-- I love the idea also of communicating the WHY #NGSSchat

In reply to @DougHodum

MsVickScience Nov 3 @ 9:49 PM EDT

Love this! Not only for grading #NGSS but shifting to NGSS in the classroom #ngsschat

In reply to @bpenuel

DougHodum Nov 3 @ 9:49 PM EDT

.@TdiShelton That is such a great point! #ngsschat

In reply to @TdiShelton

BKd204Sci Nov 3 @ 9:49 PM EDT

A5 Grading is more open-ended. Don't chase a letter; look for Ss growth thru #phenomena & #anchoringphenomena #ngsschat

In reply to @TdiShelton

krademaker Nov 3 @ 9:49 PM EDT

Q5 it is not a multiple choice test but instead a series of embedded tasks balanced throughout the science story #ngsschat

VogelWendi Nov 3 @ 9:49 PM EDT

@KRScienceLady I wonder if the Ss could provide feedback too? Or 2 one another. Does model work on other things? Just wondering...#ngsschat

KRScienceLady Nov 3 @ 9:42 PM EDT

A4 How can Ss demonstrate proficiency? Can Ts provide feedback and score S understanding on a proficiency scale #ngsschat

biokathryn Nov 3 @ 9:50 PM EDT

comparing 2 models accuracy using DCIs was challenging. Ss aren't used to critiquing the Ts models, great process! #NGSSchat

In reply to @bpenuel

KerriWingert Nov 3 @ 9:50 PM EDT

A5: Ugggh grades are the hardest part #NGSSchat So enlightening to see your ideas.

kmgill135 Nov 3 @ 9:50 PM EDT

A5: I keep a portfolio of student work that goes home to parents with report card #ngsschat

Mr_Oblon Nov 3 @ 9:50 PM EDT

A5. Share images of Ss models or video clips of phenomena/experiments. Invite parents to "ask your Ss about what they learned" #NGSSchat

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:48 PM EDT

Q5: Fabulous question: Show them student work, Engage THEM w phenomena, say that's what you're doing in class #NGSSchat

KerriWingert Nov 3 @ 9:51 PM EDT

But that's so much more time-consuming to grade; how to support? #NGSSchat

In reply to @krademaker

btlang20 Nov 3 @ 9:51 PM EDT

A5: Exemplars to show the process, change in standards. Allow S's to practice feedback. Sbg has to be imbedded correctly w/admiun.#ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:47 PM EDT

Q5: What are the key ideas to communicate to admin/parents/students about an #NGSS grading framework? #NGSSchat

envirojer Nov 3 @ 9:51 PM EDT

I pulled up case studies at conferences tonight. Showed them Ss reflections and depth of learning. Positive ps response #NGSSchat

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:48 PM EDT

Q5: Fabulous question: Show them student work, Engage THEM w phenomena, say that's what you're doing in class #NGSSchat

BKd204Sci Nov 3 @ 9:51 PM EDT

@TdiShelton Ts feedback better supports efforts than a number or letter #ngsschat

In reply to @bpenuel, @TdiShelton

FredEnde - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:51 PM EDT

Hey #NGSSchat. Happy to join, if only for a few minutes. :)

richbacolor Nov 3 @ 9:52 PM EDT

Do Ss use the same rubric or tool to self-assess that you use? #ngsschat

In reply to @BKd204Sci

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:52 PM EDT

Q6 to take us home! Sharing time! What resources to support effective grading in an #NGSS world can you share with the group? #NGSSchat

KerriWingert Nov 3 @ 9:52 PM EDT

I LOVE CASE STUDIES. Can kids write their own? #NGSSchat

In reply to @envirojer

MidlandSuptBW Nov 3 @ 9:52 PM EDT

A5: The key with parents is open communication about the expectations for students related to #ngss. Admin should already know. #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:47 PM EDT

Q5: What are the key ideas to communicate to admin/parents/students about an #NGSS grading framework? #NGSSchat

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:52 PM EDT

And what did they do well? (Building on strengths key to development, as learning doesn't come from nowhere :-) #NGSSchat

In reply to @biokathryn

BKd204Sci Nov 3 @ 9:52 PM EDT

This is the quickest & best hour of my week! Love the collaboration and ideas! #ngsschat

richbacolor Nov 3 @ 9:52 PM EDT

The “show student work” idea leads us back to portfolios of work as evidence of learning? #ngsschat

In reply to @MsVickScience, @bpenuel

DougHodum Nov 3 @ 9:52 PM EDT

Two great chats tonight only makes me miss the classroom even more! #tpofficehour #ngsschat

KerriWingert Nov 3 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A6: Nothing made me a better grader than having a solid theory of how people learn. Seriously. #NGSSchat

FredEnde - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A5. I always love to focus on continual learning and constant growth. Also focus on performance as key to learning is helpful! #NGSSChat

MsVickScience Nov 3 @ 9:53 PM EDT

I think it does - will show Ss progression of learning #ngsschat

richbacolor Nov 3 @ 9:52 PM EDT

The “show student work” idea leads us back to portfolios of work as evidence of learning? #ngsschat
In reply to @MsVickScience, @bpenuel

KerriWingert Nov 3 @ 9:53 PM EDT

#NGSSchat I agree, with students developing the portfolios. ELA has been doing this since the 90s

In reply to @richbacolor, @MsVickScience, @bpenuel

FredEnde - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:54 PM EDT

Right. Before policies go into place, must have laid the groundwork! #NGSSChat

In reply to @MidlandSuptBW

LPugh3 Nov 3 @ 9:54 PM EDT

LOL! Yes, I agree and I am going back and forth between #NGSSChat and #GrowthMindsetEDU. Both excellent chats tonight.

In reply to @DougHodum

envirojer Nov 3 @ 9:54 PM EDT

Pushing assignment in gclassroom and assessing w rubrics using #doctopus (sheet add on) and #goobric fewer assessment points #NGSSchat

KerriWingert Nov 3 @ 9:51 PM EDT

But that's so much more time-consuming to grade; how to support? #NGSSchat
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MidlandSuptBW Nov 3 @ 9:54 PM EDT

Great answer #ngsschat

FredEnde - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A5. I always love to focus on continual learning and constant growth. Also focus on performance as key to learning is helpful! #NGSSChat

richbacolor Nov 3 @ 9:54 PM EDT

This is where it gets tricky? Where does instruction end and summative assessment begin? Should it? #ngsschat

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FredEnde - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:54 PM EDT

Benefit of PE focus is that all work, should in effect, be shown. :) #NGSSchat

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biokathryn Nov 3 @ 9:54 PM EDT

did well: identifying the purpose/significance of model components, more concrete for them #NGSSchat

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bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:54 PM EDT

A6: Recognizing, building on facets of understanding: https://t.co/qBQ8rTC2SQ #ngsschat

envirojer Nov 3 @ 9:55 PM EDT

I great goal #NGSSchat

KerriWingert Nov 3 @ 9:52 PM EDT

I LOVE CASE STUDIES. Can kids write their own? #NGSSchat
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mbarmstr Nov 3 @ 9:55 PM EDT

I am trying ADI in my classroom. Great strategies for science thinking, writing, and peer review. #ngsschat

VogelWendi Nov 3 @ 9:55 PM EDT

A5 Adding element of life skills, better citizens, problem solvers vs memorization will help w/ stakeholder buy in too. #ngsschat

btlang20 Nov 3 @ 9:55 PM EDT

#ngsschat 💚 interactive notebooks!

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BKd204Sci Nov 3 @ 9:55 PM EDT

A6 Honestly I use the Ss Try to develop grading that they feel a part of part of co-ownership. I like to develop my own when I can #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:52 PM EDT

Q6 to take us home! Sharing time! What resources to support effective grading in an #NGSS world can you share with the group? #NGSSchat

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:55 PM EDT

Yes! For more, see https://t.co/4Q0Cm7oOzi #NGSSChat

KerriWingert Nov 3 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A6: Nothing made me a better grader than having a solid theory of how people learn. Seriously. #NGSSchat

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:56 PM EDT

Perhaps then comparing model components against data or evidence is place to build? #NGSSchat (just my hypothesis)

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KerriWingert Nov 3 @ 9:57 PM EDT

DOOO IT! Lemme know how it goes!! What a great resource for #NGSSchat

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frizzlerichard Nov 3 @ 9:57 PM EDT

what program do you use for their notebooks? #NGSSchat

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FredEnde - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:57 PM EDT

Can't know it until you "know" it. #NGSSchat

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richbacolor Nov 3 @ 9:57 PM EDT

BTW: I’m really impressed you can cook dinner and tweet resources at this pace. #mastermultitasker #ngsschat

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krademaker Nov 3 @ 9:57 PM EDT

A6 love using google forms, exit tickets, checklists during discussions...quick and easy things to check for understanding #ngsschat

bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:58 PM EDT

A6: Good assessment needs a learning theory behind it, otherwise, won't support learning: https://t.co/4Q0Cm7oOzi #NGSSchat

VogelWendi Nov 3 @ 9:58 PM EDT

Portfolios. Great thinking. They will need to go multi-grade, so use of technology here may be necessary, but I like it. #ngsschat

KerriWingert Nov 3 @ 9:53 PM EDT

#NGSSchat I agree, with students developing the portfolios. ELA has been doing this since the 90s
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BKd204Sci Nov 3 @ 9:58 PM EDT

The one I use in #IQWST builds on #anchoringphenomena through the unit. Very effective! #NGSSchat

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KerriWingert Nov 3 @ 9:58 PM EDT

I hang my hat on "Can't know it til you can say it in your own words" but same idea #NGSSchat

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KRScienceLady Nov 3 @ 9:58 PM EDT

I worked on a science notebook rubric with @halliesmills @FredEnde #ngsschat still a draft

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bpenuel Nov 3 @ 9:59 PM EDT

Finished cooking + eating about 20 mins ago. Now the multitasking is helping daughter w math word probs #NGSSchat

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btlang20 Nov 3 @ 9:59 PM EDT

#ngsschat sbg review it and build your framework based on research. Does it improve the learning? Be consistent.

TdiShelton - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:52 PM EDT

Q6 to take us home! Sharing time! What resources to support effective grading in an #NGSS world can you share with the group? #NGSSchat

KerriWingert Nov 3 @ 9:59 PM EDT

He's probably also running a marathon and knitting a sweater. #NGSSchat

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richbacolor Nov 3 @ 9:59 PM EDT

So what would that look like? #ngsschat

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FredEnde - Moderator Nov 3 @ 9:59 PM EDT

Was fun. Enjoyed that! #NGSSchat

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BKd204Sci Nov 3 @ 9:59 PM EDT

A6 Ss have to know the "why" of the assessment They engage more when the know expectations #ngsschat

mbarmstr Nov 3 @ 10:00 PM EDT

Argument Driven Inquiry for HS and MS. Several vol. in Earth, Life and Phys sci. Can buy books from NSTA Bookstore #NGSSchat

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