#kyadmin Archive
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Monday January 25, 2016
7:00 PM EST
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Good evening, PLN! How was everyone's return to school after the snow blast last week? Intro and snow stories. And...GO!
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Erika from Boone County. K-5 principal I'll be moderating tonight. We got...wait for it...flurries. Seriously, we got nothing.
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Amy from Glasgow. Missed Friday and today with about 12 inches of snow. Going tomorrow and can't wait!
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Michael Cole Fulton County Elementary/Middle School Assistant Principal
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Mark, Thomas Nelson Asst Principal. Apparently we ended up with a mild case of snowmaggedon.
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Shelly from Nelson County High, principal. Had about 9 inches of snow. Had a very productive day today.
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Shelee Clark, Hardin County Schools Principal, We had anywhere from 5-12 inches in our county. Back to school today.
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Thanks for hopping on tonight, Shelly.
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Brittany Nickell, AP East Hardin Middle School, my mini doxin puppy loved the snow even though her body couldn't touch the ground!
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We had about 8 inches of snow with 40 mph winds. Snow drifts over 5 ft tall on some roads. Missed Wednesday-Friday.
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I'm going to get us going so when people add in, we'll just pull them into the fold. Q1 coming up. Tonight we're talking SB1.
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Philip West, Green Co MS. We had about 13 inches, and for days of "non traditional instruction" days. Hoping to get back Wed...
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13 inches of snow!!!!!! Crazy!
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Happy to be on here tonight! We are thawing out in Christian Co. 8"+ in some parts of the county.
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Ss Coke back tomorrow....2hr delay.
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Tim, Principal @ Allen County Primary! 12 inches of snow and still no school tomorrow!
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A1: I'm cautiously optimistic that the changes will positively impact our kids. I'm concerned about a few things for sure.
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My take away possibly no program review
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Jamie. Joining a little late. Hardin County.
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Chris Guier, Freedom Elem., Christian Co. We had between 4-5 in on top of ice. Fun times.
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A1. Senate Bill 1 is all about change...some welcome change and some that make me skeptical.
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No program review is perplexing to me too.
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Good evening - little late just walked in. SB1 seems a bit dramatic to me. I understand change, but this seems a tad extreme
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What's the biggest change that makes you skeptical, Shelee?
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A1: still learning about it. Like that local agencies will have more voice. Hoping changes will be beneficial to all involved.
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Interesting. Dangerous. It seems to open weird doors w regards to arts and SS. several parts seem to contradict ESEA/essa
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Changing the standards again worries me. I'm thinking about the amount of work and money that would take.
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The good, the bad, and the ugly!
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Take another 140 characters and elaborate on your first answer.
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A1 Like rebooting an old Tandy1000. By the time it got up and going good it was time to turn it off and start something else.
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You and I are on the same page.
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I would totally agree that drastic changes to the standards does not seem best for kids.
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A1: curious about the no program reviews and dropping social studies assessment
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A1. Some parts excite me-others scare me! I'm not a huge fan of Program Reviews, but concerned about arts taking. Hit w/o them
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Exactly what I was thinking. Arts concerns especially.
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Okay...I've got to move faster, don't I? Not used to the 30 minute chat. Q2 coming up.
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A1 Assessment changes, evaluation changes, remove Program Review
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I agree! We have not completely mastered these standards. Would set us back to start over again.
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A1 We train and work hard to implement and the game changes. Change can be good but change for the sake of it scares me.
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so, I am just gathering information on all the :).
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A1: Change is good....but glad some is more developmentally appropriate.Always worried about testing at the 5th gr level-too much!
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Q2. What short & long term adjustments to current practice should SB1 pass in its current form? https://t.co/hGepTeiexh
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Q2. What short & long term adjustments to current practice should SB1 pass in its current form? https://t.co/hGepTeiexh
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Yes and changes for the purpose one's personal or political agenda is not cool!
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A1. Big change would be less time spent collecting evidence for Program Reviews.
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Performing arts is a HUGE benefit to my scholars. Too many, their favorite part of school. Even if no reviews, keep arts for kids
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Q2: Short term---not throwing the baby out with the bathwater this year and next.
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There's a certain "validity" that comes w/ assessments. Including the drop of PR concerns me, for all those that are assessed.
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A2: Long term--sustaining our arts programs without accountability.
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A2: Also long term--insuring social studies receives weight in instruction.
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A1: change is good, just want to make sure it is good for all students and not just for the sake of the adults!
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A2. I also like the focus on growth versus proficiency. Growth is a great focus for any school and for the entire state.
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Q2 I see more of a pull away from science and SS in elementary to make room for more read/math. No accountability means less rigor.
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Not sure I totally understand question 2
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A2: We have made SO much progress with implementing the CC...I personally would hate to see it revised to much.
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I think changing prior to seeing benefits is not good! Bad for teacher morale and deflates hard work for the past few years!
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Q2 rephrased: As an admin, what would plan for immediately and longterm if this passes?
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that will not happen... It's kind of like social studies in fourth grade or science in fifth grade
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I wonder what we could use to have accountability for these programs...something less cumbersome that Program Review.
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A2: more say in the accountability process would be awesome. Much easier to make authentic and meaningful. short term change.
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So agree, . Our kids REALLY are making progress with the growth model. https://t.co/XnoXZ9cC4k
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A2. I also like the focus on growth versus proficiency. Growth is a great focus for any school and for the entire state.
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Except it seems as though science is still "in the game" https://t.co/k7UIa9h6aY
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Q2 I see more of a pull away from science and SS in elementary to make room for more read/math. No accountability means less rigor.
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I like the growth piece but the current model concerns me.
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Except now what? Who will teach sci and ss?
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A2: concern of losing rigor. Worry that our students won't be able to compete nationally or globally. We are making strides with
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The way I read it, there was no accountability measure for arts.
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Agree. https://t.co/yX2MvNYwUI
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A2: more say in the accountability process would be awesome. Much easier to make authentic and meaningful. short term change.
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A2: long term? Managing frustration with a new set of standards and the subsequent expectations. Time and money.
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A2: standards. Hate to backtrack or for my team to feel their work was in vain
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Me too...I'm just thinking what could be added later to put accountability back in for these areas.
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growth should be the focus anyways...
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Thanks for pointing it back to the kids. https://t.co/A1j6CL0Te8
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A2: concern of losing rigor. Worry that our students won't be able to compete nationally or globally. We are making strides with
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or it seems PLVS and World languages.
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Did anyone else hear that the commissioner mentioned adding cursive handwriting back into the standards?
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YES!!!! https://t.co/Rt5HECbGh6
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Did anyone else hear that the commissioner mentioned adding cursive handwriting back into the standards?
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Q2 I see scheduling changes at the Middle Leve, going back to blocking time for LA & Math and a 45 minute class for SS/SC
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. A2: don't want to change the standards but I do like the part about reviewing them and giving KY teachers a voice
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Q3. What opportunities do the adjustments in SB1 afford us as educators?
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Q3. What opportunities do the adjustments in SB1 afford us as educators?
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I did hear that from someone the other day. I did not see it though.
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Do you all see my question twice or is that just on my screen?
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“: Did anyone else hear that the commissioner mentioned adding cursive handwriting back into the standards?” Really!?
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No ONE! That is scary. I spent all last year teaching science and I LoVED it...
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A2: love idea of "growth" goes along with leadership ..TLIM
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A2 I can handle a structured review of standards, but talk of "tossing" CC is 100% political and 0% educational IMO
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Well-stated! https://t.co/eVpr0WiMQO
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A2 I can handle a structured review of standards, but talk of "tossing" CC is 100% political and 0% educational IMO
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read an article on this!!!
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A2: if it is more reading and math- it concerns me. What happened to the "whole child?"
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So that we don't be negative nelly to the max, what opportunities do we now have?
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A3: Revision of the standards on a regular basis is of interest to me.
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Cont. student learning as well as measure growth.
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A3. Each district has the opportunity to change their evaluation system to be a combination of PGES and what works for them.
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I suppose we have an opportunity to dig back into the standards after 7 years and weigh when they should be taught.
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Yes...I hope we don't move from what we're doing too much thought. Really helps with consciousness. https://t.co/frD6ZgTPOb
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A3. Each district has the opportunity to change their evaluation system to be a combination of PGES and what works for them.
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A3. "Schools will receive copies of each assessment, along with individual test item results for each student and school."
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YES. Tweaks and course corrections are great. Not wholesale politics at the expense of children.
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This is GOLD to me. Can you guys imagine? Can you imagine how much it will cost though??? https://t.co/uw0jgQAKiL
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A3. "Schools will receive copies of each assessment, along with individual test item results for each student and school."
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A3: I am all about reviewing and analyzing the progress with standards-just not an overhaul when some are serving students well.
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Agree...just when we were starting to make good progress...
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A3: could potentially give more local control for improving instruction rather than meeting meeting requirements.
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Would rather spend money on this than changing the standards though. This is valuable info. Feedback is powerful!
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Way to get your orange on!!
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With only 4 minutes left, I've gotta post the last Q.
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Q4. If you could speak candidly with a senator, what would you discuss about SB1?
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A3 As a band nerd I like that they are expanding the Arts for our students. Not every student is a football player or math wiz.
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A4: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE talk to teachers, administrators, and students. This vote shouldn't be made without our input.
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A4. I would say, Please talk to teachers and students before changing standards.
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But I have a concern that the arts requirement could be world language or programming...
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absolutely. Imagine actually being able to individualize remediation based on the end of the year dara
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A4: I would ask that there be balance and converstation with students, parents, teachers before making sweeping changes.
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A4: making sure we are doing what is best for the student long term, look at "whole child" and growth measures.
