Good evening #sstlap, this is Bill Chapman, a retired secondary social studies teacher, checking in from Berkeley, CA. Spring Break will be no different from other times for this retired T - read and learn.
Ben Brazeau host of #sstlap
Former Social Studies current K-12 Tech Integrator Green Bay WI
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Jen
Ashwaubenon
Former 2nd grade, current k-12 Tech Coach
plans for spring break- road trip with the kids
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A1: This questions dates back to about a 100 years ago when I was in MS. It comes to being active with not only Ss, but being aware and not being afraid to get involved. When you stay back or feel you can't do much, that leads to problems. #sstlap
A1: Community goes a LONG way. That "Rapport" part of #TLAP is key. The kids are their own first line of defense, but without that rapport with the adults, the early interventions get missed. #sstlap
A1: Community support; increased access to mental health support; ensuring kids have strong, healthy relationships with adults and mentors; no easy answer, unfortunatley. #sstlap
A1) Logical societal measures to address the public health emergency that is deaths by guns. Create a welcoming environment for everyone and foster a culture of helping and acceptance. #sstlap
A1: was just a substitute teacher today when we took "shelter in place" due to a gun threat on the Brookings High School. Very relevant discussion even in a small town. How to do keep our students and staff safe? #sstlap
I think that teaching kids to solve problems with respect is important. Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't make their opinion wrong it then any less valuable as a person #sstlap
A1 seeing great ideas already- stealing some for my answer-
yes limit access to assault weapons- involve community - create culture where students feel they belong- do not tolerate bullying - so we can't allow elected officials to continue to model bad behavior #sstlap
glad to hear it- yes good but busy- finishing up my admin licensure so having some extra work on my plate but all good. great learning experience #sstlap
A1 - In my psych class, I particularly focus on fundamental attribution error and how it leads to stereotyping and biases:
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A1 More mental health services and better gun control would be a first step. As teachers we should try to build relationships with our students. #sstlap
A2: I'm with arming with budgets, aids, and support in the classroom. Arming with guns, that's like giving someone a rock and saying this will keep bears away. #sstlap
A2: I think that there is nothing short of an infinite number of horrific things that can come of that. It's not a bad idea on paper, but in REAL situations, it is a misguided idea. #sstlap
A2: Going to turn this around with another question - does anyone else notice that asking this moves the responsibility from the Legies to the schools? Sure makes "failure" easier on the Legies, right? #sstlap
A2 I can't think of a worse idea than arming teachers. In one nation that tried it, teacher accidentally killed a student passing by in the hallway as he was cleaning his gun and it went off. #sstlap
agreed- when i see logical societal measures- makes me think we have to engage in conversation- something we haven't done in the past- it is ignore and hope it doesn't happen again- or debate 2nd amendment- don't take my guns debate #sstlap
A1) Logical societal measures to address the public health emergency that is deaths by guns. Create a welcoming environment for everyone and foster a culture of helping and acceptance. #sstlap
Just had a discussion question about arming teachers with guns for this week's assignment. Lots of different opinions from my classmates. South Dakotans really respect the right to bare arms yet future teachers seemed to disagree with carrying weapons in schools.
A2 probably not a popular answer here. We need to look at ensuring safety for all of our students. If that means having a few armed staff members in the school who can stop a threat faster than the police responding is important #sstlap
yes- if we focus on relationships with our students we can help identify students having issues and help them get help before they make decisions that they can never take back #sstlap
For me, this is where you start. That said, perhaps in a very rural community with people who are well trained .... I might be able to get behind it. Otherwise, it's an accident waiting to happen. #sstlap
Of course, there was an armed deputy at Parkland. He thought the gunfire was outside, and did not enter the building. I know of no evidence that armed officers in schools have ever stopped a school shooter. #sstlap
Read that last part again for those in the back. It's one thing to shift responsibility of gun violence to schools. It's another to cite immoral, bullying behavior as some sort of cause even as they dismiss its presence in national leaders. #sstlap
A1 seeing great ideas already- stealing some for my answer-
yes limit access to assault weapons- involve community - create culture where students feel they belong- do not tolerate bullying - so we can't allow elected officials to continue to model bad behavior #sstlap
A2 I completely disagree
1 Police train tirelessly to be ready for these situations & still make mistakes & it'ss their full time job
2 More guns does not make us safer-more guns makes it more difficult 4 police to do their job
3 Ts job already one of the most difficult #sstlap
Gun carrying is a reaction ... an armed teacher on campus on helps if the shooter is on campus ... the Las Vegas killer was not close enough to shoot with a pistol #sstlap
This exactly. If those who train make mistakes, someone who fires a gun once in a while in a super stressful situation is going to hurt/kill an innocent; the risk isn't worth it #sstlap
A better question is how many shootings have happened at schools. The answer is that they are extremely rare, although very well covered. A child is 25 times more likely to be murdered outside of school, than at school. #sstlap
Ft Hood was an active military base...who better to "defend themselves" than that? Yet look at the deaths there.
Makes me think that this is the wrong end for the convo. How do we keep it from starting? #sstlap
Gun carrying is a reaction ... an armed teacher on campus on helps if the shooter is on campus ... the Las Vegas killer was not close enough to shoot with a pistol #sstlap
i saw the arm me with- feed- love the alternatives to arms- more guns would lead to more loss of life- that is the job of guns-
tools like trauma informed care, smaller class sizes, less emphasis on standardized tests, etc.
and most importantly build + culture #sstlap
A2: I'm with arming with budgets, aids, and support in the classroom. Arming with guns, that's like giving someone a rock and saying this will keep bears away. #sstlap
A2: I think that there is nothing short of an infinite number of horrific things that can come of that. It's not a bad idea on paper, but in REAL situations, it is a misguided idea. #sstlap
You're social studies teachers. Have you addressed the 2nd Amendment in class? Whether the Constitution is fixed absolutism or intended to address changing dynamics? #sstlap
I used to do so. If I was still teaching, I'd discuss Patrick Charles' brilliant new book, Armed in America, with students. https://t.co/KXQ7fXwc3U#sstlap
So, I looked up Sup Ct Cases on this...came up with 3 (1939, 2008, 2013) & all 3 clarify "for home defense", not public arena. Curious conversations #sstlap
those that counter that with 2nd amendment are too quick to overlook that we already limit the right to bear arms- you can't own any and all weapons-
we limit freedom of speech can't yell fire in crowded room as it could cause injury-we accept limits when they harm peole #sstlap
A3 I am in Florida ... my elected officials have already shown what they would do ... voted to not even talk about new gun bans during this legislative session ... #sstlap
Calling it a night everyone, have to get the little one to bed. He isn't going to give daddy a birthday present by going to bed by himself. Talk to everyone later. #sstlap
A3 I want my elected officials to vote for gun control and increase funding for mental health services. I also would like more funding for home based family services.#sstlap
I expect them to have the conversation- to debate, discuss and do what is right regardless of who bought their election. We can no longer accept silence or thoughts and prayers and now is not the time. We must engage in the conversation NOW! #sstlap
As a Canadian, the whole 2nd amendment just baffles me. And terrifies me. We have reasonable limits on our rights here as well. Key word is reasonable. Assault weapons are never reasonable. #sstlap
those that counter that with 2nd amendment are too quick to overlook that we already limit the right to bear arms- you can't own any and all weapons-
we limit freedom of speech can't yell fire in crowded room as it could cause injury-we accept limits when they harm peole #sstlap
A1: It takes a village. Our school is blessed to have an amazing custodial staff that get to know a lot of the kids and talk to them. Small things like that help all students feel appreciated and could curb a lot of violence. #sstlap
A4 I think this student action is fantastic; however, alone it will not accomplish much. The student movements of the 1960s in support of Civil Rights and against the Vietnam War were massive. In the end, we got Nixon. #sstlap
I expect them to have the conversation- to debate, discuss and do what is right regardless of who bought their election. We can no longer accept silence or thoughts and prayers and now is not the time. We must engage in the conversation NOW! #sstlap
the whole good gun with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun doesn't work because there is no expectation for training for gun ownership. In Wisconsin we passed law that a child any age can hunt with their parent So toddler is now legal to have gun and hunt- seems safe right? #sstlap
This exactly. If those who train make mistakes, someone who fires a gun once in a while in a super stressful situation is going to hurt/kill an innocent; the risk isn't worth it #sstlap
A2: A few years ago, I would've said I was fine with this idea. It's funny how being a parent changes things. I will not teach or send my kids to a school with armed teachers. End of story. #sstlap
A4: sorry - I'm multitasking (trying to) - I love that these Ss are standing up and sharing their voice. I can't find the tweet, but someone reminded us that some of our founding fathers ranged in age from 17-21 years old. #sstlap
the whole good gun with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun doesn't work because there is no expectation for training for gun ownership. In Wisconsin we passed law that a child any age can hunt with their parent So toddler is now legal to have gun and hunt- seems safe right? #sstlap
This exactly. If those who train make mistakes, someone who fires a gun once in a while in a super stressful situation is going to hurt/kill an innocent; the risk isn't worth it #sstlap
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A4 I think this student action is fantastic; however, alone it will not accomplish much. The student movements of the 1960s in support of Civil Rights and against the Vietnam War were massive. In the end, we got Nixon. #sstlap
A3 I would like more funding for school programs such as smaller class sizes, more mental health support and community outreach opportunities. Gun control would also make me feel better. I long for a peaceful world where the first response isn't violence. #sstlap
A4: I wish there was more discussion that included the student movements of the #BLM movement - Student momentum has been building for a while...but it irks me to see that it took white kids to get the nation's attention for it #sstlap
I love it and am inspired by it. While they may not see change right now, they are starting the process. They are taking action that is sorely needed. If politicians won't act, the youth will. #sstlap
A3: I expect elected officials to serve and protect their constituents, especially those who are too young to vote. I've contacted offices of many of these officials to voice concerns on the issue of school security and other educational issues. #sstlap
yes- if we will not act to protect our children we are a society that is doomed to be destroyed.
If we accept the loss of life of children in these types of events as normal we have lost our humanity
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A3: I expect elected officials to serve and protect their constituents, especially those who are too young to vote. I've contacted offices of many of these officials to voice concerns on the issue of school security and other educational issues. #sstlap
Students need to realize, if they don't already, the importance of organization and persistence when it comes to impacting policy. Curious to see how much of each current students have. #sstlap
A5 If having more people armed reduced violence, the US would be the least violent nation on Earth. Instead, we are the most violent developed nation by far. #sstlap
I appreciate the question and it also makes me sigh. It's just so often used as a deflection. Again, gun deaths are a public health crisis. The flu epidemic of 100 years ago wasn't a "breakdown of our society." Wasn't philosophical. If you're an official you do something. #sstlap
A4 I love they are taking a stand. I think there are other options for them, too! I read something today that said “say hi to 17 new people today”, etc. #whatsyour17#sstlap
A5: It does not make any one safer; how often do you hear of someone pulling out a gun and saving the day? (maybe you do and we just don't hear it up here); to be honest, many of my Cdn friends are reluctant to visit the US because of this #sstlap
appreciate the information!
My biggest concern with guns is that there is no expectation for training- we must go through training and pass a test to drive, but there isn't an expectation to own and use a gun- a gun who's purpose is to take a life. #sstlap
A5 Absolutely NOT. More violence isn't the answer. Like you said Ben, police go through rigorous training to carry a weapon. We should allow just anyone to do it. #sstlap
A4 I think the students speaking out after the FL events are courageous and strong. I am hoping it starts a tidal wave of action in our country to combat school violence. #sstlap
Sure, but now we have Trump. The question is whether we're here today because of ineffective activism or not enough. I suspect the latter. And perhaps misguided activism -- not focusing on the real threats. #sstlap
agreed- I am impressed wit h the mobilization of the movement - but without adults in washington listening and taking action nothing will change #sstlap
Yes... I hope what needs to be accomplished is accomplished. I'm not sure how I feel about youth being the saviors. Not that they haven't earned it, but it shames adults' irresponsibility even more. #sstlap
Look at the results in all special elections for Congress and state legislatures over the past year. Dems have won and won because those who didn't vote before are making sure to vote now. #sstlap
A5 while I am not a fan of more guns, I welcome the conversation
I heard after the Las Vegas shooting that there were people who were armed but did nothing because it creates more difficulty for the police to determine good guy bad guy-I would avoid a place with more guns #sstlap
Agreed, and it demonstrates so many things. Which victims we sympathize with and which we blame. Which lives and deaths are valued and which are not. And why #BlackLivesMatter should even be remotely a controversial phrase. #sstlap
A4: I wish there was more discussion that included the student movements of the #BLM movement - Student momentum has been building for a while...but it irks me to see that it took white kids to get the nation's attention for it #sstlap
I'd like to say none, but if Sandy Hook didn't change things, I'm afraid nothing will; I'm inspired by the student activism I see here (they have more guts than adults do), but ultimately the politicians have to act and they don't seem willing. #sstlap
This book of historical essays was written in response to the spasms of violence in the 1960s. As a work of history it is still very valuable. https://t.co/7YsGKXxzxK#sstlap
yes it was a loaded question- my hope is that it makes us pause and reflect on the fact that we are still asking this question after Columbine, Sandyhook, and now Parkland and we still can't say with confidence NEVER AGAIN #sstlap
Right. I agree. I was looking more at our rugged individualism, our lack of neighborliness, our blue state / red state / wall street / main street our professionalism, the seemingly lack of deep relations ..... #sstlap
A6: Sadly, the answer is at least a few more. I wonder if SnapChat and Instagram will be a game-changer in this regard. It's one thing to hear about school shootings, but to see kids hiding under desks fearing for their lives makes it more real. #sstlap
America is divided between people who own guns or feel more comfortable with guns, and those (like me) who want nothing to do with them and feel safer without them. I don't care what side you're on -- as long as people on both sides aren't getting massacred. But they are. #sstlap
I get that- and I think the AR-15 is the post child because it creates that image that we can ID for the loss and suffering
I get frustrated with non-educators proposing arming teachers when they don't understand the life of a teacher or think through the consequences #sstlap
