#bookcampPD Archive
Educators discussing professional books with each other.
Saturday August 26, 2017
9:00 AM EDT
teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:00 AM EDT
Welcome! Thank you for joining us today!
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@mjjohnson1216
@pmgmcgee
participatechat
Aug 26 @ 9:00 AM EDT
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mjjohnson1216
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Aug 26 @ 9:00 AM EDT
Meredith joining from stormy southwestern Florida, co-moderator of
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- I have always loved writing! π
pmgmcgee
Aug 26 @ 9:00 AM EDT
Good morning everyone! So happy to start my day with this chat.
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mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:01 AM EDT
Good Morning
@teresagross625
- wonderful to co-moderate this chat with you today!
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:01 AM EDT
Thank you for joining us!
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:01 AM EDT
Morning dear friend!
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tolbertplant
Aug 26 @ 9:01 AM EDT
Good Morning
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@teresagross625
and
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. MIchelle in Houston here!
mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:01 AM EDT
@pmgmcgee
WOW! Love that you are our guest author today.
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cooper1503
Aug 26 @ 9:01 AM EDT
Good morning! Chris form TN!
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:01 AM EDT
Hi Michelle!
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ShelfieTalk
Aug 26 @ 9:01 AM EDT
Hello from Fredericton, New Brunswick. Happy to start my Saturday learning with you!
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Stella_Pollard
Aug 26 @ 9:01 AM EDT
Good morning,
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family! Excited to learn with you all. I teach 7th Grade Science in Frankfort, KY. We like to blog and we journal.
D4Griffin3
Aug 26 @ 9:02 AM EDT
We made writing a priority in our school planning and professional development. Kids write me problems they see and I respond.
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mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:02 AM EDT
@tolbertplant
top of the morning to you!
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:02 AM EDT
Teresa, MS Literacy Teacher, NY. I write with my Ss and we celebrate when we finish a writing piece.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:02 AM EDT
Morning Chris!
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bgriffinteach
Aug 26 @ 9:02 AM EDT
Brittany from SC ready to learn from my fab PLN this morning.
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ElemCoach
Aug 26 @ 9:02 AM EDT
Good morning everyone! Elaine IC from Jersey checking in to
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:02 AM EDT
Welcome! So happy to have you!
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mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:02 AM EDT
Chris
@cooper1503
thanks for joining
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:02 AM EDT
Hi Stella!
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educatorhock
Aug 26 @ 9:02 AM EDT
Good Morning from Magnolia, TX.
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ShelfieTalk
Aug 26 @ 9:02 AM EDT
Excited for be joining
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for the first time!
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mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:02 AM EDT
Good Morning!
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TamiJ123
Aug 26 @ 9:02 AM EDT
Hi! Tami from down in Mexico. Thought I'd check out the chat this a.m.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:03 AM EDT
That is an excellent idea as an admin!
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mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:03 AM EDT
We love learning with you as well!
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:03 AM EDT
Hi Brittany!
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:03 AM EDT
Welcome Elaine!
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Stella_Pollard
Aug 26 @ 9:03 AM EDT
You will love it! Itβs a very exciting chat.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:03 AM EDT
Hi Monica!
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mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:03 AM EDT
LOVE the focus on writing and seeking solutions. Good Morning!
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Hahne_Elyse
Aug 26 @ 9:04 AM EDT
Good morning y'all! Elyse checking in from Katy, Texas. Long night of tornado warnings and Harvey rain but ready to chat.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:04 AM EDT
Welcome Tami!
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mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:04 AM EDT
Great to have you join us!
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:04 AM EDT
Awww......thank you. We love it!
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CathyFiebs
Aug 26 @ 9:04 AM EDT
Good morning,
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! Hope you don't mind me joining in. Cathy, Grade 8 ELA in NJ, currently about halfway through FTMW.
teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:04 AM EDT
Hi Elyse!
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TamiJ123
Aug 26 @ 9:04 AM EDT
Thank you!
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ginoloko
Aug 26 @ 9:04 AM EDT
Good evening folks. π
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:04 AM EDT
All are welcome! Hi Cathy!
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mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:04 AM EDT
An International flair to our chat! Terrific! Thanks for joining.
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Scott_Gregory12
Aug 26 @ 9:05 AM EDT
Good morning! Scott from Nebraska.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:05 AM EDT
Good evening! Welcome!
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:05 AM EDT
Hi Scott!
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mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:05 AM EDT
Ohhhhhh my! Glad you're safe this morning.
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SaraKiffe
Aug 26 @ 9:05 AM EDT
Sara, 3rd grade from MT! Writing is one of my safe, happy places and I try to make it the same for my Ss.
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TamiJ123
Aug 26 @ 9:05 AM EDT
Yes! Thanks. Yes, I am from California but have been teaching down here for 8 years, going into my 9th.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:05 AM EDT
Welcome Sara!
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mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:05 AM EDT
Cathy - we LOVE that you are joining us! Thanks for coming.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:06 AM EDT
Question #1:
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@mjjohnson1216
@pmgmcgee
teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:06 AM EDT
Thank you everyone for joining us! We are so excited!
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mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:06 AM EDT
Welcome Gino! Thanks for coming.
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mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:06 AM EDT
Morning Scott - thank you for joining
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:06 AM EDT
There are amazing reference charts, I call them the purple charts.
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Stella_Pollard
Aug 26 @ 9:07 AM EDT
A1: Grading makes the task feel final when completed, feedback encourages us to think and grow to reach our fullest potential.
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bgriffinteach
Aug 26 @ 9:07 AM EDT
A1: Grading means there is no way to improve. Feedback allows Ss to made adjustments to the work to show growth.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:07 AM EDT
Exactly!
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mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:07 AM EDT
Good Morning Sara!
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:07 AM EDT
That is what we want, them to take our feedback and grow as writers.
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educatorhock
Aug 26 @ 9:07 AM EDT
Feedback is given to the writer throughout the writing process. Grading is the final product after conferencing with the writer.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:08 AM EDT
A1: "Grades do not cause learning but can be an acknowledgement of learning." (pg.29)
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pmgmcgee
Aug 26 @ 9:08 AM EDT
A1: So glad you are asking this question. I have to be totally honest, the grading chapter was the hardes for me to write.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:08 AM EDT
Yes! So important during the writing piece.
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Want them to feel success!
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mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:08 AM EDT
Love this response .. a constant work in progress.
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ShelfieTalk
Aug 26 @ 9:08 AM EDT
A1 Grading is a judgement, an evaluation. Feedback is a conversation about how the work is going and where it can go next.
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TamiJ123
Aug 26 @ 9:08 AM EDT
A1) Feedback describes what the S is doing well & where he/she can improve. Grades put a # or letter value w/out much info.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:08 AM EDT
That is one of my favorite chapters! SO much good insight and ideas.
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mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:08 AM EDT
Love the growth mindset in your response.
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TamiJ123
Aug 26 @ 9:09 AM EDT
A1) Feedback is also more what you would get from a coach.This happens "during the practice" so the S improves. Grades r @ end.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:09 AM EDT
I like the idea of conversation. So true!
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tolbertplant
Aug 26 @ 9:09 AM EDT
A1 Grading is more summative, whereas feedback is more formative. Grading also is judgment... necessary evil IMO
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:09 AM EDT
Yes! Like a temperature check.
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ElemCoach
Aug 26 @ 9:09 AM EDT
A1 grading is a numerical or letter assessment of Ss work. Feedback is an observation you want the Ss to reflect on & integrate
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pmgmcgee
Aug 26 @ 9:09 AM EDT
A1P2: I think grades can do a number on writers. As Ts we feel conflicted. Obligated to grade but not sure grades help.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:09 AM EDT
We can learn a lot from sports coaches. Listening to them give feedback to athletes.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:10 AM EDT
A1: Feedback is individualistic, further develops skills & given in the midst of learning. (page 29)
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Hahne_Elyse
Aug 26 @ 9:10 AM EDT
Hi Teresa!
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:10 AM EDT
Definitely formative!
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ginoloko
Aug 26 @ 9:10 AM EDT
A1 Grading is an end. Feedback is always ongoing.
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mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:10 AM EDT
Exciting to conference and wonder aloud about where it will go next.
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TamiJ123
Aug 26 @ 9:10 AM EDT
I would argue that grading isn't necessary, except we've set up our system that way.
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Scott_Gregory12
Aug 26 @ 9:10 AM EDT
A1: feedback coincides w/ instruction while grading may stop instruc. completely for assessment.
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ElemCoach
Aug 26 @ 9:10 AM EDT
Feedback is the reflective piece we want students to partake on
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:10 AM EDT
I like that word integrate! Take what we talk about and implement ASAP!
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Hahne_Elyse
Aug 26 @ 9:10 AM EDT
Safe and sound & just hanging in there.
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SaraKiffe
Aug 26 @ 9:10 AM EDT
A1: Grading evaluates a S task. Feedback highlights Ss strengths, goals, it helps writing growth and progress.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:11 AM EDT
A1: I confer and provide feedback consistently throughout writing.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:11 AM EDT
Exactly. I agree 100%. I like the word you used "integraded".
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pmgmcgee
Aug 26 @ 9:11 AM EDT
A1: Feedback is writer centered. We think about what the writer wants to voice and we support that.
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educatorhock
Aug 26 @ 9:11 AM EDT
Yes, a necessary evil that doesn't improve but sometimes deflates the effort.
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tolbertplant
Aug 26 @ 9:11 AM EDT
providing sufficient, usable feedback for S can be completely overwhelming... esp if you don't know where 2start
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pmgmcgee
Aug 26 @ 9:09 AM EDT
A1P2: I think grades can do a number on writers. As Ts we feel conflicted. Obligated to grade but not sure grades help.
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mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:11 AM EDT
Wondering how we could remove that "judgment" component?
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:11 AM EDT
It does feel like an end and the students feel it too.
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ElemCoach
Aug 26 @ 9:11 AM EDT
Yes. The ultimate goal of feedback. π
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ginoloko
Aug 26 @ 9:11 AM EDT
Not everything in life is graded. Or should be.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:11 AM EDT
It is a reality for most of us.
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pmgmcgee
Aug 26 @ 9:11 AM EDT
A1: Feedback is a well visit and grades are an autopsy.
#bluntlyspeaking
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:12 AM EDT
Question #2:
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@mjjohnson1216
@pmgmcgee
teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:12 AM EDT
That is true!
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Stella_Pollard
Aug 26 @ 9:12 AM EDT
I agree with you both so much! I wish someone would have told my 1st year teacher self thatβ¦. :)
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Scott_Gregory12
Aug 26 @ 9:12 AM EDT
Writer centered.....
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pmgmcgee
Aug 26 @ 9:11 AM EDT
A1: Feedback is writer centered. We think about what the writer wants to voice and we support that.
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cooper1503
Aug 26 @ 9:12 AM EDT
A1 Feedback creates dialogue for next steps. Grades finalize.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:12 AM EDT
I like that! Highlights strengths!
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:12 AM EDT
Individualized!
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ElemCoach
Aug 26 @ 9:12 AM EDT
Truth! Feedback, reflection, implementation equate learning.
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TamiJ123
Aug 26 @ 9:12 AM EDT
Yes, it is. It's the schooling system that exists, but I do believe there are better ways.
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D4Griffin3
Aug 26 @ 9:13 AM EDT
A2)
#BodyLanguage
& tone are critical components of feedback, we often focus on the message & not the visible & auditory message
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:13 AM EDT
Patty's book has so many resources on how to start the conversations. It really is a treasure.
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educatorhock
Aug 26 @ 9:13 AM EDT
Yes, we have to remember that we providing feedback to the writer and not the piece of writing.
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ElemCoach
Aug 26 @ 9:13 AM EDT
Why was it difficult?
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Hahne_Elyse
Aug 26 @ 9:13 AM EDT
A1 Feedback is continuous & growing. A grade signals others that the work is done.
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ShelfieTalk
Aug 26 @ 9:13 AM EDT
This is so true. Once a mark is on a piece of writing, it is hard to have a conversation about next steps.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:13 AM EDT
No! I am upfront with my students because they always ask.
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tolbertplant
Aug 26 @ 9:13 AM EDT
I love this metaphor
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D4Griffin3
Aug 26 @ 9:14 AM EDT
A2) Tone is critical as it might not align with the type of feedback the receiver was expecting
#praise
#coaching
#evaluation
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mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:14 AM EDT
That is WONDERFUL as many struggle with how to launch into those conversations.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:13 AM EDT
Patty's book has so many resources on how to start the conversations. It really is a treasure.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:14 AM EDT
LOVE!
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pmgmcgee
Aug 26 @ 9:11 AM EDT
A1: Feedback is a well visit and grades are an autopsy.
#bluntlyspeaking
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bgriffinteach
Aug 26 @ 9:14 AM EDT
A2: Tone lets Ss know your feelings on the work. Choose words to show you believe growth is possible to encourage Ss to improve.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:14 AM EDT
That dialogue is SO important! I love the conversations Patty suggests for discovering a writer's identity.
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Stella_Pollard
Aug 26 @ 9:15 AM EDT
A2: If you donβt smile, if you donβt show empathy, if you do not build a strong environment of trustβ¦ The Ss will not engage.
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Scott_Gregory12
Aug 26 @ 9:15 AM EDT
Yes-build dialogue through comments instead.
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ginoloko
Aug 26 @ 9:15 AM EDT
Right. I show them that I dislike those who are always asking and calculating.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:15 AM EDT
We can encourage a student or shut them down in an instant! Writing is very personal and a risk.
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Stella_Pollard
Aug 26 @ 9:15 AM EDT
A2: Set the tone so Ss can show empowerment and become leaders!
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ElemCoach
Aug 26 @ 9:15 AM EDT
Wow! Very descriptive!
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:16 AM EDT
A2: "-it is the sound of the words, the language of the body, the smallest gestures, the tiniest looks in one's eyes." (pg.75)
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:16 AM EDT
That's true! Most expect us to tell them what is wrong, based on prior experience.
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mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:16 AM EDT
Wondering if ideas from the author's book provided suggestions for you to encourage Ss writing.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:15 AM EDT
We can encourage a student or shut them down in an instant! Writing is very personal and a risk.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:16 AM EDT
No! Many of them feel shy about their writing.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:17 AM EDT
A2: Reference Chart regarding "Language that Fosters a Supportive Tone" on page 81.
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@pmgmcgee
TamiJ123
Aug 26 @ 9:17 AM EDT
A2) The tone can be seen as the "mood" of the conversation.
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pmgmcgee
Aug 26 @ 9:17 AM EDT
For those of you who do not have the book there are many free resources on the companion site to access.
https://t.co/tti68HGUKG
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:17 AM EDT
Absolutely! I have had Ss teach mini-lessons when I see a strength. A couple of years ago it was leads. SO fun!
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TamiJ123
Aug 26 @ 9:17 AM EDT
Super!!! Thanks.
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ElemCoach
Aug 26 @ 9:17 AM EDT
I agree! That's why I don't like Grades for writing on report cards.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:17 AM EDT
Absolutely.
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mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:17 AM EDT
Really??!?! WOW! Thanks for sharing this resource!
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pmgmcgee
Aug 26 @ 9:17 AM EDT
For those of you who do not have the book there are many free resources on the companion site to access.
https://t.co/tti68HGUKG
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:18 AM EDT
Question #3:
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@pmgmcgee
teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:18 AM EDT
Thanks Patty! Need to check this out!
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pmgmcgee
Aug 26 @ 9:17 AM EDT
For those of you who do not have the book there are many free resources on the companion site to access.
https://t.co/tti68HGUKG
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pmgmcgee
Aug 26 @ 9:18 AM EDT
A2: Read an article yesterday that the mind has neurons that detect tone. If our tone is off others know it.
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Scott_Gregory12
Aug 26 @ 9:18 AM EDT
The line between discouraging & encouraging is a fine one.
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educatorhock
Aug 26 @ 9:18 AM EDT
A2: Ss pick up on the smallest details with teachers. Many students struggle to write and lack confidence.We want to encourage.
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ShelfieTalk
Aug 26 @ 9:18 AM EDT
A2 When we too are writers, we can set a tone of empathy & responsiveness when giving FB. Focus on the writer, not the product.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:18 AM EDT
Even as adults, I can tell! You will engage me or push me away. It only takes seconds.
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SaraKiffe
Aug 26 @ 9:19 AM EDT
A2: It is voice, gestures, presence to deliver FB. Must be caring, patient, & help Ss discover strengths and direction.
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pmgmcgee
Aug 26 @ 9:19 AM EDT
Greatly influenced by Peter Johnston's Choice Words
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:17 AM EDT
A2: Reference Chart regarding "Language that Fosters a Supportive Tone" on page 81.
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@mjjohnson1216
@pmgmcgee
ShelfieTalk
Aug 26 @ 9:19 AM EDT
Can you share the title?
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:19 AM EDT
It sure is! Hard to come back if you cross it the wrong way!
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mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:19 AM EDT
All through HS I had the same teacher grade my writing. Always came back w/ a 'B' written across the top and I never knew why.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:19 AM EDT
Writing is definitely a risk for many of them.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:19 AM EDT
Exactly!
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:20 AM EDT
I always sit next to them.
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ginoloko
Aug 26 @ 9:20 AM EDT
That hit the spot! Ss can tell if we really care.
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valerietilton
Aug 26 @ 9:16 AM EDT
A2: Encouraging the relationships we can cultivate w Ss. Before academics we must have strong bond!
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pmgmcgee
Aug 26 @ 9:20 AM EDT
A2: Our struggles are our greatest gifts to our teaching. The tone of "I've struggled in writing and can help you with yours"
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Scott_Gregory12
Aug 26 @ 9:20 AM EDT
A3: in what ways has your understanding of reading instruc changed during your career?
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mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:21 AM EDT
Had to share this as it matches with the pre-chat song
@teresagross625
posted.
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educatorhock
Aug 26 @ 9:21 AM EDT
When I grade writings, I provide a hidden gem - a positive I find in their writings.
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ShelfieTalk
Aug 26 @ 9:21 AM EDT
This is a classic resource I reread regularly. I learn something new each time.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:21 AM EDT
I tell them conclusions and transitions are two areas I always have to spend extra time on.
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ElemCoach
Aug 26 @ 9:21 AM EDT
A2 tone is how an author feels about the topic. Word choice is important bc you want the right words to convey your feelings
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tolbertplant
Aug 26 @ 9:22 AM EDT
@pmgmcgee
For content area writing, do you prioritize feedback that focuses on mechanics, style, clarity, message,... etc.?
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:22 AM EDT
Yes! There are so many resources that can help us with this!
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mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:22 AM EDT
Great question!
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cooper1503
Aug 26 @ 9:22 AM EDT
A2 So important. No body leanguage makes it hard to interpret. So we have to show through thougfhtful responses as examples
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:22 AM EDT
WOW! What a group today! LOVING this conversation! Writing is such a passion of mine!
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Hahne_Elyse
Aug 26 @ 9:23 AM EDT
A2 We can't set ourselves apart. Students must see us set goals and write to continue on their journey.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:23 AM EDT
That's a great question!
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:23 AM EDT
I always am careful about crossing my arms, if I do accidentally it's because I am cold and I share that with the Ss.
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mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:23 AM EDT
A3. Have you ever surveyed students to learn their thoughts about how they would best like to receive feedback?
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CathyFiebs
Aug 26 @ 9:23 AM EDT
A1: Feedback building on strengths honors the writer & process, encourages risk-taking & growth. Grading can be destructive.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:24 AM EDT
I do set goals and write with them. I never show a finished product. I share the process with them.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:25 AM EDT
My Ss love when I put a little post-it note on their pieces. LOL I won't write on them without permission.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:25 AM EDT
Always have a strength to go to first, wait until you do before conferencing.
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SaraKiffe
Aug 26 @ 9:26 AM EDT
A3: Lots of Ss expressed the need for less distractions while writing. Is there dedicated, quiet writing in your class?
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mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:26 AM EDT
The one with Peanuts and Charlie Brown characters.
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educatorhock
Aug 26 @ 9:26 AM EDT
I never write on the final product. They worked so hard to get there. I write on the rough draft with permission.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:25 AM EDT
My Ss love when I put a little post-it note on their pieces. LOL I won't write on them without permission.
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In reply to @mjjohnson1216
teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:26 AM EDT
Mine are funny, many like music, I make it optional if they want to bring their ear buds. (Sorry jumping in!)
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:27 AM EDT
Everything is digital now, we are 1:1 Chromebooks. I print off a copy, but never write on them either. Attach a rubric to it.
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tolbertplant
Aug 26 @ 9:27 AM EDT
Ladies, do you model writing the same assignments that they do?
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:24 AM EDT
I do set goals and write with them. I never show a finished product. I share the process with them.
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In reply to @Hahne_Elyse
ElemCoach
Aug 26 @ 9:27 AM EDT
I do 2 pushes and a shove on sticky notes.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:28 AM EDT
Thank you for your participation today! Special thank you to
@pmgmcgee
for joining us!
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@mjjohnson1216
cooper1503
Aug 26 @ 9:28 AM EDT
A2 Read great old letters as models for hot communicate this way OR use new tech to change the paradigm
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:28 AM EDT
I do. I write what they are writing. We hang them up as anchor charts. They use them ALL the time.
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educatorhock
Aug 26 @ 9:28 AM EDT
I wish we were 1:1. Great idea to print them off!
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:27 AM EDT
Everything is digital now, we are 1:1 Chromebooks. I print off a copy, but never write on them either. Attach a rubric to it.
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In reply to @educatorhock
teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:28 AM EDT
I also keep a writer's notebook like they do. They have access to it whenever they want.
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:29 AM EDT
Please head over to
#leadupchat
for more great conversation!
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mjjohnson1216
- Moderator
Aug 26 @ 9:29 AM EDT
Our last
#BookCampPD
chat of the summer is next Monday 8-28. We will share about shifts in our chats and give away books to top 3 attendees
Hahne_Elyse
Aug 26 @ 9:29 AM EDT
Yes! It's powerful! My students love sticky notes.
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pmgmcgee
Aug 26 @ 9:29 AM EDT
Before we end, I want to invite you all to continue the convo.Two Writing Teachers is having a Voxer book club (link below)
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teresagross625
Aug 26 @ 9:29 AM EDT
Ooh! I would love to participate!
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In reply to @pmgmcgee