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The ONLY defensive-themed chat on Twitter! Talking all things Defense and Game Planning. Tuesdays at 9pm EST.
Tuesday February 14, 2017
9:00 PM EST
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Feb 14 @ 9:00 PM EST
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:00 PM EST
Welcome to the scheduled unscheduled
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No topic tonight - I got a couple Qs I want to ask... so, join in if you're able.
rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:00 PM EST
So, say Hey if you're following along....no format - just ask and answer...I've got a couple I'm going to ask soon.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:02 PM EST
I've actually got an Install Question..hope you guys can chime in for me..
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CODY_GARDNER
Feb 14 @ 9:02 PM EST
Eating the loaf, waiting in dessert. I may be in and out.
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Coach_ZC
Feb 14 @ 9:03 PM EST
What's up
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looking for some 5 man fronts if anyone is willing to share.
CoachJoshHadden
Feb 14 @ 9:03 PM EST
Josh Hadden. 8 years HS Asst. 2 years MS HC. Currently looking. Aiken, SC. Wife already asleep. We both teach & have a toddler😂
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coachaj623
Feb 14 @ 9:03 PM EST
... Let's get it!
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In reply to @rmacblue
coachboyneDHS
Feb 14 @ 9:04 PM EST
Anyone use hudl assist?
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CoachPierskalla
Feb 14 @ 9:04 PM EST
My valentines are already in bed so I'm down for a good chat!
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CoachCurran42
Feb 14 @ 9:04 PM EST
Bobby Curran LB's/Special Teams Coordinator Gilman Football
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:04 PM EST
For a brand new install - what is the key for each position group? Overall scheme or individual tech?
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CoachMHochard
Feb 14 @ 9:05 PM EST
What better for valentine's than some
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:00 PM EST
Welcome to the scheduled unscheduled
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No topic tonight - I got a couple Qs I want to ask... so, join in if you're able.
Coach_ZC
Feb 14 @ 9:05 PM EST
Zach Carlton - DC - Palmer Ridge HS, CO
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CoachMHochard
Feb 14 @ 9:06 PM EST
We teach overall scheme first. Show the kids the entire puzzle:how pieces fit. THen teach them how to fit.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:04 PM EST
For a brand new install - what is the key for each position group? Overall scheme or individual tech?
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Coach_ZC
Feb 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
I think terminology and scheme are big during install time. We try to work technique year round
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In reply to @rmacblue
CoachTWill22
Feb 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
A: I think you have to break it down. Whole, part whole. Here is what it should look like, here's your part, put it together.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
I'm in love with teaching terminology - understanding terms helps with everything else I think.
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In reply to @Coach_ZC
CoachJoshHadden
Feb 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
Overall scheme. Get them to buy in then move on to their roles.
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CoachCurran42
Feb 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
I'm a fan of the whole-part-whole method. Show them the whole picture then break it down...
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CoachPierskalla
Feb 14 @ 9:08 PM EST
Had to do this last year: we chose overall scheme and defensive philosophy and goals, Indy tech came after learning the plays
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:09 PM EST
How quickly do you transition in the box from base to other looks?
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Coach_ZC
Feb 14 @ 9:10 PM EST
no doubt. Have to have everyone speak the same language.
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In reply to @rmacblue
CoachTLambert
Feb 14 @ 9:10 PM EST
Teach a kid what to do.... then show them how to do it.
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CoachRmcD60
Feb 14 @ 9:10 PM EST
Ryan Mcdonald OL Mooresville IN
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:11 PM EST
Anybody use FILM to teach overall scheme prior to breaking it down?
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CoachCurran42
Feb 14 @ 9:11 PM EST
Depends on how much time you have. Ideally for me, 2 full practice days per look...
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CoachMHochard
Feb 14 @ 9:11 PM EST
Our kids have high FB IQ. We are able to switch preplay at times! Doesn't mean we always make plays, but we try!
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:09 PM EST
How quickly do you transition in the box from base to other looks?
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Coach_Sneed_EM
Feb 14 @ 9:11 PM EST
yes we did. Any questions?
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In reply to @coachboyneDHS
Coach_A_Nowell
Feb 14 @ 9:12 PM EST
Alignment and Assignment. Then techniques. I have a article coming out next month in
@fnfcoaches
about this topic
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:04 PM EST
For a brand new install - what is the key for each position group? Overall scheme or individual tech?
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:13 PM EST
If you guys have questions..send em - open chat tonight!
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coachdober
Feb 14 @ 9:13 PM EST
We stay in base for a long time (1st 2 wks-ish of camp) before adding in new stuff in the box. Base fits need to be 2nd nature
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Coach_Sneed_EM
Feb 14 @ 9:13 PM EST
why a 1 instead of 0? Just curious
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In reply to @CoachMHochard
CODY_GARDNER
Feb 14 @ 9:13 PM EST
You have to build the skills needed to support the new install.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:04 PM EST
For a brand new install - what is the key for each position group? Overall scheme or individual tech?
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CoachEddieYoung
Feb 14 @ 9:14 PM EST
Eddie Young HC Lajeunesse HS Windsor ON
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Coach_A_Nowell
Feb 14 @ 9:15 PM EST
FILM is the best teaching tool! Let them see what it is you want them to do then FILM them doing it and show them
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:11 PM EST
Anybody use FILM to teach overall scheme prior to breaking it down?
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CoachTWill22
Feb 14 @ 9:15 PM EST
absolutely. Here is what it looks like run WELL, here is what it looks like messed up. Etc.
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In reply to @rmacblue
coachdober
Feb 14 @ 9:16 PM EST
base 3-4. So to get 5 we will walk both OLBs down as stand-up 9s. Then play a 5, a shade, and a 4i with our DL
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In reply to @Coach_ZC
CoachJoshHadden
Feb 14 @ 9:16 PM EST
We only had a few looks in box. Have to do things RIGHT in base first
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:16 PM EST
From the DM: Informal chat question. How much is too much? Do you measure it fronts, stunts, techs, or coverages?
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JENKScoachGWOOD
Feb 14 @ 9:17 PM EST
Doug Greenwood Head OL Jenks America
#R4
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:18 PM EST
ALSO - got a guy looking for 6-man front info if you have any!
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CoachTWill22
Feb 14 @ 9:18 PM EST
Have to know what the kids can handle. Too much when you break your rules or ask kids to do things he can't do.
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CoachRmcD60
Feb 14 @ 9:18 PM EST
Toughest pass combo to defend?
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CoachPierskalla
Feb 14 @ 9:19 PM EST
They key word when putting in scheme is "intentional" we will only add past the main blitzes if we feel we can handle more
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:19 PM EST
Actually pretty cool to see like 4 conversations going at the same time!
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Coach_ZC
Feb 14 @ 9:20 PM EST
have a game plan for install, but it constantly gets adjusted. Won't move on if the execution isn't up to par.
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In reply to @rmacblue
atley_matthew
Feb 14 @ 9:20 PM EST
Completely agree. You have to know what they can digest. Might change year to year.
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CoachTWill22
Feb 14 @ 9:18 PM EST
Have to know what the kids can handle. Too much when you break your rules or ask kids to do things he can't do.
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CODY_GARDNER
Feb 14 @ 9:21 PM EST
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CODY_GARDNER
Feb 14 @ 9:20 PM EST
For me it is; Can I teach it to my other coaches and have them know it well enough to effectively(perfectly) coach the kids.
Coach_A_Nowell
Feb 14 @ 9:21 PM EST
Build an Install Plan, from ur base defense out. If you are ++ things the kids are not performing correctly adjust your Install
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:16 PM EST
From the DM: Informal chat question. How much is too much? Do you measure it fronts, stunts, techs, or coverages?
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coachdober
Feb 14 @ 9:21 PM EST
we install 6 fronts, 8-10 stunts, and 4 coverages in camp. In season, we can add in a new 1-2 /wk if needed
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In reply to @rmacblue
rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:21 PM EST
Another DM: A coach is looking for really good GOAL LINE packages!
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Coach_ZC
Feb 14 @ 9:22 PM EST
yes. Have been using the Go Army Edge app. IMO it is better than film because it puts the kids in their visual spot.
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In reply to @rmacblue
CoachTLambert
Feb 14 @ 9:22 PM EST
The key to multiple install.... it all has to be married! Terminology fluid in all fronts! This means this... period!
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CoachTWill22
Feb 14 @ 9:22 PM EST
@rmacblue
scissors from doubles or Slant/Wheel/Arrow from trips.
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In reply to @CoachRmcD60, @rmacblue
thomps_03
Feb 14 @ 9:22 PM EST
For us Base gets us to play fast & confident. You must have adjustments but not at expense of "just cause", must be intentional
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:23 PM EST
Here's yet another from the DM: I'd like to get thoughts on off season workouts of kids that play basketball and/or baseball?
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CODY_GARDNER
Feb 14 @ 9:25 PM EST
Sorry working on this sucker!!!!
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coachaj623
Feb 14 @ 9:25 PM EST
... I have used film to individually teach. Then get them doing it.
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In reply to @rmacblue
rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:25 PM EST
I've had more spontaneous questions via DM in 20 min than I usually in prepping a
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for the week!
#awesome
CoachJoshHadden
Feb 14 @ 9:26 PM EST
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CoachJoshHadden
Feb 14 @ 9:25 PM EST
During their sport season or summer? I'm all for kids playing another sport for the SCHOOL. Travel ball should come 2nd.
rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:23 PM EST
Here's yet another from the DM: I'd like to get thoughts on off season workouts of kids that play basketball and/or baseball?
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:27 PM EST
Did we get a fav front in goal line for our coach?
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CODY_GARDNER
Feb 14 @ 9:27 PM EST
Play nice with the coach. Hopefully he appreciates a strong agile athletic kid. Work together to help the kid,
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:23 PM EST
Here's yet another from the DM: I'd like to get thoughts on off season workouts of kids that play basketball and/or baseball?
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CoachTWill22
Feb 14 @ 9:27 PM EST
Need to lift as much as possible, but never force it. Don't want baseball coach throwing bullpens during FBseason.
#LetThemPlay
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coachaj623
Feb 14 @ 9:29 PM EST
It's the summer. Let kids be kids. But they need to know expectations & that football season is next up.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:23 PM EST
Here's yet another from the DM: I'd like to get thoughts on off season workouts of kids that play basketball and/or baseball?
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:30 PM EST
Q: "easiest" Coverage to teach on Day 1 to a young group?
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coachdober
Feb 14 @ 9:31 PM EST
match quarters
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In reply to @rmacblue
coachaj623
Feb 14 @ 9:32 PM EST
I coached Jr High & Frosh ball for a long time... Cover 3 was always 1st. Found out the hard way giving up big pass plays.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:30 PM EST
Q: "easiest" Coverage to teach on Day 1 to a young group?
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CODY_GARDNER
Feb 14 @ 9:32 PM EST
Cover 3 is the cheapest install, but I'd start with man. Ever thing turns into man eventually,,,,,hopefully
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:30 PM EST
Q: "easiest" Coverage to teach on Day 1 to a young group?
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CoachPierskalla
Feb 14 @ 9:32 PM EST
the "easiest" for a young group is actually man! Kids understand who has who mostly and "rules" are easy: you've got this cat
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:32 PM EST
Just in from a young coach: communication between the guy in the booth and the DC before? He's looking for info about this.
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CoachJoshHadden
Feb 14 @ 9:33 PM EST
I've coached middle school and 9th grade. In my experiences, 1 and 3 were easiest for them.
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atley_matthew
Feb 14 @ 9:33 PM EST
4 under 3 deep. Cover 3 is our base and we add quarters, 3 robber,etc. as we see more off. Formations
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:34 PM EST
what is communicated...what does DC want from box guy?
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In reply to @CoachMHochard
CODY_GARDNER
Feb 14 @ 9:34 PM EST
Boys I'm dying right now, fight off a food coma,
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CoachTLambert
Feb 14 @ 9:34 PM EST
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CoachTLambert
Feb 14 @ 9:33 PM EST
I'd say teach your base coverage whether 2 high or 1 high! No time to waste in the back half for sure. Hang your hat!
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coachaj623
Feb 14 @ 9:35 PM EST
Down/distance, offensive personnel, tendencies, matchups and reminders.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:32 PM EST
Just in from a young coach: communication between the guy in the booth and the DC before? He's looking for info about this.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:36 PM EST
Really good answers here - great stuff for our coaches asking questions.
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CODY_GARDNER
Feb 14 @ 9:36 PM EST
I wasn't personnel changes. If we miss a boot or aren't fold cut back responsible. Crap effort on d line,
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:34 PM EST
what is communicated...what does DC want from box guy?
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In reply to @CoachMHochard
CoachJoshHadden
Feb 14 @ 9:37 PM EST
I've been a D box guy. DC wanted me to call out formation as it appeared or personnel "TE!" During O, what worked vs formations
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giveawayzich
Feb 14 @ 9:38 PM EST
I've been a D box guy. DC wanted me to call out formation as it appeared or personnel "TE!" During O, what worked vs formations
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CODY_GARDNER
Feb 14 @ 9:38 PM EST
I want,,,,,fat fingers and a full tummy. Sorry boys.
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CODY_GARDNER
Feb 14 @ 9:36 PM EST
I wasn't personnel changes. If we miss a boot or aren't fold cut back responsible. Crap effort on d line,
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:34 PM EST
what is communicated...what does DC want from box guy?
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In reply to @CoachMHochard
atley_matthew
Feb 14 @ 9:38 PM EST
Personnel changes, any weak spots, possible defensive mistakes, anyone need to be subbed out.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:34 PM EST
what is communicated...what does DC want from box guy?
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In reply to @CoachMHochard
rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:41 PM EST
Do you guys focus on specific body types for your ILBers? Or can the same body type play S/M/W?
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CODY_GARDNER
Feb 14 @ 9:42 PM EST
Post a few more videos, a little bit about how we use d line Indy time to support our TGOG
https://t.co/WQMIpUlCxD
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CoachTWill22
Feb 14 @ 9:43 PM EST
more skill set than body type. Physical/speed/coverage skills ETC. Obviously body types help, but not set in stone.
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coachaj623
Feb 14 @ 9:43 PM EST
I think different kind of guy. They are asked to do different things.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:41 PM EST
Do you guys focus on specific body types for your ILBers? Or can the same body type play S/M/W?
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CoachJoshHadden
Feb 14 @ 9:43 PM EST
I like the stockier guys in the middle.
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atley_matthew
Feb 14 @ 9:44 PM EST
Couldn't have said it any better.
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CoachTWill22
Feb 14 @ 9:43 PM EST
more skill set than body type. Physical/speed/coverage skills ETC. Obviously body types help, but not set in stone.
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In reply to @rmacblue
CODY_GARDNER
Feb 14 @ 9:44 PM EST
Mike-Will-Sam-Bandit-Free...... smaller each step, little bit better in space.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:41 PM EST
Do you guys focus on specific body types for your ILBers? Or can the same body type play S/M/W?
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coachaj623
Feb 14 @ 9:45 PM EST
... Agreed. Me too. Has to be a phsycial kid.
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In reply to @CoachJoshHadden
rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:46 PM EST
Anyone keep % of summer practices as rewards for equipment, captain, jersey numbers, etc? Do anything special?
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Dr_Jay0052
Feb 14 @ 9:48 PM EST
we take best 3 skill sets and place them based on importance Of position to overall scheme. Will has to do the most.
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In reply to @rmacblue
jrmyhanson
Feb 14 @ 9:48 PM EST
I use a combo of GPA times 10 and number of days kid attended summer weight room/contact days
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Coach_ZC
Feb 14 @ 9:48 PM EST
yes we did jersey numbers this past year.
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In reply to @rmacblue
rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:51 PM EST
Reminder: We will have SDSU DL coach
@CoachLawsonSDSU
as our special guest next week! DM Qs for him!
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:52 PM EST
Also, check out our sponsor
@JustPlaySS
for software that is tops for terminology, diagrams, installs, quizzes!
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CODY_GARDNER
Feb 14 @ 9:55 PM EST
We did shirts for wt room attendance, athletes playing another sport got them automatically.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:46 PM EST
Anyone keep % of summer practices as rewards for equipment, captain, jersey numbers, etc? Do anything special?
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:56 PM EST
Coaches - heckuva job tonight for a throw-together
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Really good info passed around. Lots of coaches got answers tonight.
robertpomazak
Feb 14 @ 9:56 PM EST
Here is an example of our chart it color codes kids based on points. Then we tie in positions and overall leaders. FUN 4 me
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:59 PM EST
Thanks for chiming in tonight fellas - had a good time!
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Brian_penry
Feb 14 @ 9:59 PM EST
We gave out 5 pride stickers for higher than 95% attendance. Including JV kids
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Feb 14 @ 9:46 PM EST
Anyone keep % of summer practices as rewards for equipment, captain, jersey numbers, etc? Do anything special?
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