#G2Great Archive
This chat is dedicated to continuing the conversation about teacher reflection it's based on Dr. Mary Howard's book Good to Great Teaching.
Thursday April 6, 2017
8:30 PM EDT
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Welcome to
#G2Great
@brennanamy
@DrMaryHoward
and I are so pleased that
@pmgmcgee
is going to share her brilliance w/us tonight!
participatechat
Apr 6 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Participate in the upcoming
#G2Great
by sharing resources and collaborating at
https://t.co/FB8JlXMi8b
pranikoff
Apr 6 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Hi Kara! Great to see you!
@pranikoff
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Welcome to
#G2Great
friends. We are so happy to have Patty as our guest host tonight. Let’s take feedback HIGHER for our writers!
@pmgmcgee
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Please take a moment to introduce yourself! We are talking about feedback and the writing process with
@pmgmcgee
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hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Thank you to
@CorwinPress
for giving away two of her beautiful new books.
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Mary coming to you tonight from Charlotte and a VERY delayed travel day. So happy to be among
#G2great
friends!
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:31 PM EDT
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Welcome to
#G2Great
friends. We are so happy to have Patty as our guest host tonight. Let’s take feedback HIGHER for our writers!
@pmgmcgee
brennanamy
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Hi All! Excited to be here tonight with a special guest Patty McGee
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hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Opening words of wisdom from
@pmgmcgee
to think on...
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barberchicago
Apr 6 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Lorie from Chicago, back from spring break and ready to help my writers grow!
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btkissel
Apr 6 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Hi All! Brian Kissel, professor of literacy. I live in North Carolina and got my kids in bed just in time to enjoy this chat! :)
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:32 PM EDT
After 10 hours but still in Charlotte till midnight
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btkissel
Apr 6 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Yes...Mary...did you finally get off the ground today? The wind in North Carolina today was INSANE!
In reply to @pranikoff, @DrMaryHoward
Gavin_Sonntag
Apr 6 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Hello! My name is Gavin & I'm a college student preparing to student teach. I love this chat!
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mollienye72
Apr 6 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Hello! Mollie from Ohio. Revived my book on Tuesday. Loving it!
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tammylani
Apr 6 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Aloha from Honolulu! Looking forward to learning alongside all of you!
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JillDerosa
Apr 6 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Hello. Jill DeRosa, 3rd grade teacher, LI,NY
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hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:33 PM EDT
@pmgmcgee
your words of wisdom makes me think do our actions match a task or a process?
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Don’t you just love it when kids cooperate for really important things Brian?
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btkissel
Apr 6 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Hi All! Brian Kissel, professor of literacy. I live in North Carolina and got my kids in bed just in time to enjoy this chat! :)
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ShelfieTalk
Apr 6 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Hello from Kim and Jill in Fredericton, NB. Love tonight's topic.
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teresagross625
Apr 6 @ 8:33 PM EDT
@hayhurst3
I just wanted to say hi. I am not sure I can stay awake for long! 😴
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mollienye72
Apr 6 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Hello! Mollie from Ohio. I received my book on Tuesday. Loving it!
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hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:34 PM EDT
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:34 PM EDT
So happy to see you here Teresa. Even stopping in makes us happy
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teresagross625
Apr 6 @ 8:33 PM EDT
@hayhurst3
I just wanted to say hi. I am not sure I can stay awake for long! 😴
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pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Hi All! Happy to chat tonight about feedback for writers.
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hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:34 PM EDT
We are so glad you're with us Gavin it's going to be a great chat with
@pmgmcgee
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In reply to @Gavin_Sonntag, @pmgmcgee
pranikoff
Apr 6 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Wonderful question from
@pmgmcgee
"How much ownership is actually in students' hands?"
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PamKou
Apr 6 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Pam from NJ. So excited to chat tonight.
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joanneduncanjo
Apr 6 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Hello, JoAnne , Assistant Principal from Washington excited to be here tonight.
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flynn_catherine
Apr 6 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Hi, everyone! Catherine, K-8 literacy specialist from CT, looking forward to chatting about feedback.
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Patty’s new book is phenomenal. Can’t wait to see who wins!
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pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Hi All! Happy to chat tonight about feedback for writers.
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LRobbTeacher
Apr 6 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Hi!
@LRobbTeacher
Glad to be back on
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hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Yay this is all about writing and feedback right up your alley
@teresagross625
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@pmgmcgee
@DrMaryHoward
@brennanamy
In reply to @teresagross625, @teresagross625, @pmgmcgee, @DrMaryHoward, @brennanamy
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:35 PM EDT
A1 Celebrate the child in front of you. Feedback encircles THAT child at THAT moment in a spirit of ‘it’s all about YOU!”
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hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Q1
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:35 PM EDT
And it's question we should ALWAYS be asking about everything we do (even talk, right my friend?)
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pranikoff
Apr 6 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Wonderful question from
@pmgmcgee
"How much ownership is actually in students' hands?"
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johnnydowney
Apr 6 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Johnny K-6 Reading Specialist from rainy cold Ohio here. Checking in, going to be an observer tonight!
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ktkelly14
Apr 6 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Hi everyone! Katie from SC here!
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TeachWriteEDU
Apr 6 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Providing effective feedback to student writers is where I struggle as a writing teacher. Looking forward to your tips.
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pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Hi All! Happy to chat tonight about feedback for writers.
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joanneduncanjo
Apr 6 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Looking forward to getting Patty's
@pmgmcgee
new book!
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pranikoff
Apr 6 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Welcome
@Gavin_Sonntag
How cool is that that you are preparing to student teach & you are here! Welcome! So great to have you!
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Gavin_Sonntag
Apr 6 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Hello! My name is Gavin & I'm a college student preparing to student teach. I love this chat!
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hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Hi Mollie! Welcome to the chat!
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In reply to @mollienye72
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:35 PM EDT
We’re so thrilled to see you here tonight Laura. Always happy to have you on
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LRobbTeacher
Apr 6 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Hi!
@LRobbTeacher
Glad to be back on
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hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Hello ladies so glad you're with us.
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In reply to @ShelfieTalk
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A1 For me feedback has two currents that run through it: relationship & observation. That informs what you say.
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:36 PM EDT
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Q1
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Q1
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pranikoff
Apr 6 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Hello, Susie here from rainy NYC. Thrilled, as always, to be with amazing teachers on
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#PS234
teresagross625
Apr 6 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A1: keeo it focused, specific, target one area at a time, ask the student what he/she would like feedback on
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rdgtchr13
Apr 6 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Lisa from Va. Here for just a bit. Wonderful topic.
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TeachWriteEDU
Apr 6 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Jennifer Laffin from Wi, 5th grade T & consultant. Still thinking about our chat from last week & looking forward to more!
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btkissel
Apr 6 @ 8:36 PM EDT
HI KATIE!!!! :) I come to
#G2Great
every Thursday now. I'm a groupie! haha
In reply to @ktkelly14
chrisp16
Apr 6 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Chris, rdg spec, coming in from outside Philly.
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Hey friend. Waving!
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johnnydowney
Apr 6 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Johnny K-6 Reading Specialist from rainy cold Ohio here. Checking in, going to be an observer tonight!
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barberchicago
Apr 6 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A1: Keep feedback brief, targeted, and something the writer can practice based on your observations of where they’re at.
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hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Welcome to
#G2Great
you're in one of
@DrMaryHoward
favorite places.
In reply to @tammylani, @DrMaryHoward
teresagross625
Apr 6 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A1: have evidence to support your feedback
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btkissel
Apr 6 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A1: Feedback for writers: "Who is your audience? What is your purpose? How can I help?”
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johnnydowney
Apr 6 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A1 feedback needs to be constructive and specific!
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PamKou
Apr 6 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A1: Start with environment- physical set up and the "HEART" / feel of the environment. Set the stage for meaningful feedback
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Not ONE of - THE favorite Tammy
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hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Welcome to
#G2Great
you're in one of
@DrMaryHoward
favorite places.
In reply to @tammylani, @DrMaryHoward
ktkelly14
Apr 6 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A1 to give useful feedback to writers, we must begin by first being a listener and letting Ss set the agenda
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JillDerosa
Apr 6 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Make sure the feedback is about them and their goals not generic or driven by what the teacher wants
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drgravityg
Apr 6 @ 8:37 PM EDT
The writer's intentions are super important when offering feedback. What do they want feedback on?
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JWrightTeaches
Apr 6 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Start with positives; all writers need encouragement.Then pose a question.Not all the questions- just 1 to give the writer movement
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hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Q1
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joanneduncanjo
Apr 6 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A1- To always remember that we are teaching the writer not the writing
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chrisp16
Apr 6 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A1: Ts should be positive, interested, and willing to listen in order to provide effective feedback for Ss.
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mindi_r
Apr 6 @ 8:38 PM EDT
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Hi, all! Mindi, 3rd grade teacher from the Chicago suburbs joining late.I got caught up writing a blog post about post PARCC poetry
teresagross625
Apr 6 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A1: make sure the student can use it, grow from it
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jhaylett16
Apr 6 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Jenn, K teacher in South Florida
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c_rejent
Apr 6 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Courtney from NJ here.
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hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Words of Wisdom from
@teresagross625
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teresagross625
Apr 6 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A1: keeo it focused, specific, target one area at a time, ask the student what he/she would like feedback on
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pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A1: Perhaps one way we can answer this Q is to ask ourselves-- in writing, what was feedback that hurt and feedback that worked?
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TeachWriteEDU
Apr 6 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A1: Don’t forget to celebrate! So many times, we want to fix, fix, fix.
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Such a great point Jenn. Relationships are central to all we do!
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hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A1 For me feedback has two currents that run through it: relationship & observation. That informs what you say.
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PamKou
Apr 6 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A1: Work from a strength- share the impact of their efforts with S. Patty teaches us, "You...Because of this..."
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joanneduncanjo
Apr 6 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Thinking of you friend!
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In reply to @DrMaryHoward
ShelfieTalk
Apr 6 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A1 Feedback is effective when it begins w what is going well and helps Ss see new possibilities, focus on one thing at a time,
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btkissel
Apr 6 @ 8:38 PM EDT
YES! YES! YES!
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JillDerosa
Apr 6 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Make sure the feedback is about them and their goals not generic or driven by what the teacher wants
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:39 PM EDT
A1 LISTEN! We can’t offer effective feedback if we aren’t listening for the signs kids are always sending our way.
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rdgtchr13
Apr 6 @ 8:39 PM EDT
A1- first we must build trust. Ss need to know we believe in them as writers.
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btkissel
Apr 6 @ 8:39 PM EDT
YES KATIE!!!!
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ktkelly14
Apr 6 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A1 to give useful feedback to writers, we must begin by first being a listener and letting Ss set the agenda
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flynn_catherine
Apr 6 @ 8:39 PM EDT
A1 Effective feedback should be focused and constructive. Don't overwhelm Ss!
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:39 PM EDT
What an incredible question & we must always be cognizant of the answer because it can go either way
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pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A1: Perhaps one way we can answer this Q is to ask ourselves-- in writing, what was feedback that hurt and feedback that worked?
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tammylani
Apr 6 @ 8:39 PM EDT
A1: Prioritize feedback to "feed the writing forward". What's priority to help move the writer forward?
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barberchicago
Apr 6 @ 8:39 PM EDT
This.
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rdgtchr13
Apr 6 @ 8:39 PM EDT
A1- first we must build trust. Ss need to know we believe in them as writers.
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teresagross625
Apr 6 @ 8:39 PM EDT
Awwww.......thanks!
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In reply to @hayhurst3
AssignmentHelpN
Apr 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
#delachat
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#precalcchat
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TeachWriteEDU
Apr 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
A1: Yes, it’s important not to overwhelm with too much feedback.
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teresagross625
Apr 6 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A1: keeo it focused, specific, target one area at a time, ask the student what he/she would like feedback on
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
So incredibly important Jill. We can’t enter the feedback with an agenda. The child IS the agenda!
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JillDerosa
Apr 6 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Make sure the feedback is about them and their goals not generic or driven by what the teacher wants
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mindi_r
Apr 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
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A1: I always keep the writer at the center of my thinking about feedback.I ask him/her what they want feedback on & go from there.
joanneduncanjo
Apr 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Yes, this is so important and also driven by the "curriculum"
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In reply to @JillDerosa
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Great insights from
@JillDerosa
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JillDerosa
Apr 6 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Make sure the feedback is about them and their goals not generic or driven by what the teacher wants
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PamKou
Apr 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
A1: Provide choice- hear student's voice. . . then give some vision on their preference 4 FB-both where to go and how to get there.
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pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
As
@KatherineBomer
has taught me, look for the gems, the strengths, that we as teachers can build on.
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chrisp16
Apr 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
A1: take into consideration the author's personality. how will feedback be received? what's the best way to communicate w/ them.
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jhaylett16
Apr 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
A1: I always start with a glow, then try to give a tip to help my little K's grow.
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suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
.
@laurenebrown19
are you joining us for
#G2Great
?
johnnydowney
Apr 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
A1 feedback that moves the writer to the next stage of development
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:41 PM EDT
A1 Stay positive & keep the child at the center. NOTICE opportunities and respond to those them with the child in mind.
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late4clss
Apr 6 @ 8:41 PM EDT
A1 clear consise feedback that will take the writing towards their next goal
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:41 PM EDT
I love seeing so many comments trust relationship safety, honor - all show deep respect for THAT child needs at THAT moment
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rdgtchr13
Apr 6 @ 8:39 PM EDT
A1- first we must build trust. Ss need to know we believe in them as writers.
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mollienye72
Apr 6 @ 8:41 PM EDT
A1: use conferences/observations to get a pulse on what the S is looking to work on. I'm learning I need to be a better listener.
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hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:41 PM EDT
Absolutely
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In reply to @pmgmcgee
teresagross625
Apr 6 @ 8:41 PM EDT
I LOVE that book!
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In reply to @pmgmcgee, @KatherineBomer
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:42 PM EDT
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pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Leave the word "but" out of feedback and use "Because... You are ready for.." EX: BC you came up with an idea you are ready to plan
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:42 PM EDT
It’s so tempting to take over but will derail our focus on the chld (and hi Katie)
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ktkelly14
Apr 6 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A1 to give useful feedback to writers, we must begin by first being a listener and letting Ss set the agenda
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TeachWriteEDU
Apr 6 @ 8:42 PM EDT
What do we do when the student doesn’t even know what kind of feedback they are looking for?
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drgravityg
Apr 6 @ 8:37 PM EDT
The writer's intentions are super important when offering feedback. What do they want feedback on?
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Gavin_Sonntag
Apr 6 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A1) Provide feedback in a positive, but helpful way. Always remember the reason we provide feedback is to guide student learning
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suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 8:42 PM EDT
You are a rock star!
#PS234
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Have you been on one before? I can't remember.
In reply to @laurenebrown19
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 8:42 PM EDT
@drgravityg
Gravity--you have the BEST name of all time! Love it! What's the story behind it? Because I KNOW there's a story. :)
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hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Q2
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pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Right?! One strategy at a time.
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In reply to @flynn_catherine
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Right on! BUT made such an impact on me as a child- not a good one.
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In reply to @pmgmcgee
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:43 PM EDT
I don’t think that any of us will ever be able to NOT see the gems once we begin to notice them
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pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
As
@KatherineBomer
has taught me, look for the gems, the strengths, that we as teachers can build on.
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suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Love this...building on what they do well.
@pmgmcgee
Don't we all want to learn this way?
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pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Leave the word "but" out of feedback and use "Because... You are ready for.." EX: BC you came up with an idea you are ready to plan
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joanneduncanjo
Apr 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
I'm always working on this.
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In reply to @jhaylett16
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A2: Writers identify as writers when we refer to them as writers. Feedback: “As a fellow writer…”
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pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Interesting research I found in writing this book. Eliminate praise from feedback-- it waters down the impact
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JillDerosa
Apr 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
If we want lifelong writers-build their identities as writers who have voices that need to be heard- know they can have an impact
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teresagross625
Apr 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A2: getting to know themselves as writers in important as their development as a writer (strengths, areas to work on)
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c_rejent
Apr 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A1 I like to stand back and observe. Body language says a lot.
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
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Q2
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Q2
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mindi_r
Apr 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
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A2: This goes along with teaching the writer not the writing. Every piece of feedback grows that identity as a writer.
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
We would do well to aspire to be as dedicated as
@LRobbTeacher
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rdgtchr13
Apr 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A2- Notice writer's patterns and strengths. Build on those. Take to next level.
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A2 The writing is a springboard to dialogue that can support the writer in front of us. Effective feedback celebrates BOTH.
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hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A2 Just as w/reading all is in the service of comp; writing all is in service of the author's purpose. This forges connections
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PamKou
Apr 6 @ 8:45 PM EDT
#2 Help Ss discover & build their identity. This brings engagement- kids need to "feel it" before they are ready to "do it."
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DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:45 PM EDT
So great to see you Wendy and yes her book is filled w/wisdom & heart. I’m savoring every page!
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murrcs
Apr 6 @ 8:43 PM EDT
patty's book is so full of advice on the stance teachers need to have in terms of listening and tone
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
TeachWriteEDU
Apr 6 @ 8:45 PM EDT
Beautifully said!
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jhaylett16
Apr 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
A1: I always start with a glow, then try to give a tip to help my little K's grow.
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hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:45 PM EDT
We always love it when you can make
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@suzrolander
In reply to @suzrolander, @laurenebrown19, @suzrolander
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 8:45 PM EDT
LOVE THIS! Leave out the word "but"!
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pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Leave the word "but" out of feedback and use "Because... You are ready for.." EX: BC you came up with an idea you are ready to plan
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mindi_r
Apr 6 @ 8:45 PM EDT
This goes right along with what Peter Johnson writes about student agency. We need to be careful with our language.
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In reply to @pmgmcgee
teresagross625
Apr 6 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A2: in MS I have Ss teach each other sometimes (Did well with introdutction? Teach a group!)
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pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A2: Most kids look at what they cannot do. We can help them create an identity of what they can do.
#G2Great
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Kid watching is often the best source of info. Well worth taking the time.
#G2Great
In reply to @c_rejent
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:46 PM EDT
And I think too that we believe that to be true at the very core of our BEING! We have to believe it for them to!
#G2Great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A2: Writers identify as writers when we refer to them as writers. Feedback: “As a fellow writer…”
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Exactly my thoughts too
@LRobbTeacher
@JillDerosa
and I share the same values as you do
#G2Great
In reply to @LRobbTeacher, @LRobbTeacher, @JillDerosa
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Fascinating
@pmgmcgee
...eliminate praise from feedback b/c it waters down the impact. Wow.
#G2Great
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Interesting research I found in writing this book. Eliminate praise from feedback-- it waters down the impact
#G2Great
teachermantrav
Apr 6 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Q2: Feedback provides a direction. It is also non-threatening & is used to help grow the writer & writing, not destroy them.
#G2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
#G2Great
Q2
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Q2
#G2Great
chrisp16
Apr 6 @ 8:46 PM EDT
sometimes praised can be taken the wrong way & the writer wants to be taken seriously if asking 4 feedback.
#g2great
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Interesting research I found in writing this book. Eliminate praise from feedback-- it waters down the impact
#G2Great
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:46 PM EDT
My fav feedback precept from
@BreneBrown
is giving feedback that shows how to use strengths to meet challenges. So powerful!
#G2Great
joanneduncanjo
Apr 6 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A2- It is critical for Ss to see themselves as writers. Specific positive feedback builds confidence & motivation.
#G2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A2 When the feedback is actionable based on the writing and writer, it gives the writer wings to soar into next step possibilities.
#G2Great
late4clss
Apr 6 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A2 working from the writer's style, interest and positive support will allow writers to try new things and expand as a writer
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:47 PM EDT
So important and we need to know the research behind the practices to make elevate the work we do with our kids!
#G2Great
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Interesting research I found in writing this book. Eliminate praise from feedback-- it waters down the impact
#G2Great
barberchicago
Apr 6 @ 8:47 PM EDT
I’d like to start this in 5th… strengthens Ss' identities as writers when they can share their expertise with peers.
#G2Great
In reply to @teresagross625
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 8:47 PM EDT
...and the LANGUAGE teachers can use and QUESTIONS they can ask - so transferrable to our CR practice.
#G2Great
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:47 PM EDT
What do you value? We value Ss empowerment
#g2Great
JillDerosa
Apr 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
If we want lifelong writers-build their identities as writers who have voices that need to be heard- know they can have an impact
#G2Great
teresagross625
Apr 6 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A2: 1:1 conferences, feedback builds confidence, relationships, connections so Ss will take risks
#g2great
ShelfieTalk
Apr 6 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A2 When we share our own writing experiences, including challenges and successes, we help students see that we are all writers.
#G2Great
JWrightTeaches
Apr 6 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Q2: This is also about building a culture & mindset: writing is something we do, we are writers - not waiting to be "real" ones.
#G2great
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Thanks
@hayhurst3
I love this amazing hour of learning! Now I get to have my pal
@laurenebrown19
with me! She's a newbie!
#G2Great
#PS234
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:45 PM EDT
We always love it when you can make
#G2Great
@suzrolander
In reply to @suzrolander, @laurenebrown19, @suzrolander
ktkelly14
Apr 6 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A2 when students develop an identity as a writer, they will have greater confidence and drive to write regularly=improved writing.
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Even unwittingly Travis… it can have a lifelong impact on the writer (or reader)
#G2Great
teachermantrav
Apr 6 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Q2: Feedback provides a direction. It is also non-threatening & is used to help grow the writer & writing, not destroy them.
#G2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
#G2Great
Q2
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Q2
#G2Great
joanneduncanjo
Apr 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
Hello, Teresa! Great to see you here. Hope you are doing well!
#G2Great
In reply to @teresagross625
teresagross625
Apr 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
I am reading a book by her right now!
#g2great
In reply to @pmgmcgee, @BreneBrown
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A2: Name what a writer IS doing that is working. This creates ownership of strength in a writer's identity.
#G2Great
johnnydowney
Apr 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
Love this!
#g2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A2 When the feedback is actionable based on the writing and writer, it gives the writer wings to soar into next step possibilities.
#G2Great
mindi_r
Apr 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
#g2great
I wish my teachers back in the 80s understood this. Perhaps I would see myself as a “real writer” today.
#igotabookinme
In reply to @JWrightTeaches
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
And so incredibly honored to see you tonight my friend!
#G2great
teachermantrav
Apr 6 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Q2: Feedback provides a direction. It is also non-threatening & is used to help grow the writer & writing, not destroy them.
#G2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
#G2Great
Q2
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Q2
#G2Great
TeachWriteEDU
Apr 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
Love this purposeful talk, Brian!
#G2Great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A2: Writers identify as writers when we refer to them as writers. Feedback: “As a fellow writer…”
#G2Great
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
Hi Partner! Great to see you here!
#G2Great
@jdolci
teachermantrav
Apr 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A2: Part of feedback is your reception of it. Is it treated as though it has value?
#G2Great
drgravityg
Apr 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
If we want all students to identify as writers we need a broad definition of what it means, one where all st's are included
#G2Great
teresagross625
Apr 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
I write with them, always show my drafts and thinking, NEVER an end product first.
#g2great
In reply to @ShelfieTalk
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:49 PM EDT
A2 Thoughtful feedback uses the writing as a PATHWAY TO POSSIBLE but the writer maintains control of process.
#G2Great
mollienye72
Apr 6 @ 8:49 PM EDT
A2:being intentional w/our words helps support a healthy growth mindset.
#G2great
JWrightTeaches
Apr 6 @ 8:49 PM EDT
That is my new favorite hashtag!
#g2great
In reply to @mindi_r
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:49 PM EDT
Dangerous pesky little three letter words. I’ve seen it derail everything we’re trying to do.
#G2Great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 8:45 PM EDT
LOVE THIS! Leave out the word "but"!
#G2Great
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Leave the word "but" out of feedback and use "Because... You are ready for.." EX: BC you came up with an idea you are ready to plan
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:49 PM EDT
You said so well. Have you been on our chat before?
#G2Great
In reply to @late4clss
barberchicago
Apr 6 @ 8:49 PM EDT
Yes! Writers aren’t just people who write newspapers or are published novelists. If you think, you can write!
#G2Great
JWrightTeaches
Apr 6 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Q2: This is also about building a culture & mindset: writing is something we do, we are writers - not waiting to be "real" ones.
#G2great
tammylani
Apr 6 @ 8:49 PM EDT
Confidence to write regularly & continuously improve their writing!
#G2Great
In reply to @ktkelly14
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:49 PM EDT
A2: Looking at challenges as opportunities to grow with excitement and gratitude rather than faults or flaws.
#G2Great
teresagross625
Apr 6 @ 8:49 PM EDT
I call them writers, authors, researchers, etc.
#g2great
In reply to @joanneduncanjo
cpoole27
Apr 6 @ 8:49 PM EDT
Four Lessons From Literature for Teachers... Quotes from the classics!
https://t.co/9UNgxcZKKj
#hcpsteach
#MDESchat
#mschat
#g2great
mindi_r
Apr 6 @ 8:49 PM EDT
#g2great
My kids are experimenting with poetry and are seeking lots of reassurance (not feedback). I ask Who’s the author? Who decides that?
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:49 PM EDT
Once we internalize our feelings about anything it an become a part of who we BELIEVE we are for a lifetime. So important!
#G2Great
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A2: Most kids look at what they cannot do. We can help them create an identity of what they can do.
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:50 PM EDT
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:50 PM EDT
It's all about how we see students and how our perspective guides our decision-making
#G2Great
joanneduncanjo
Apr 6 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A2- It is critical for Ss to see themselves as writers. Specific positive feedback builds confidence & motivation.
#G2great
randomawwpics
Apr 6 @ 8:50 PM EDT
#G2Great
amy_jeff95
Apr 6 @ 8:50 PM EDT
#G2Great
Point out strengths and areas of improvement- students need to know what they are specifically doing right and wrong
mindi_r
Apr 6 @ 8:50 PM EDT
#g2great
By asking that, I am putting them in the driver’s seat of their writing. They’re not writing to please me, but to please themselves
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Many of my college Ss who don't consider themselves good writers almost always trace it back to a bad feedback experience with a T.
#G2Great
teachermantrav
Apr 6 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Q2: Feedback provides a direction. It is also non-threatening & is used to help grow the writer & writing, not destroy them.
#G2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
#G2Great
Q2
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Q2
#G2Great
teresagross625
Apr 6 @ 8:50 PM EDT
I try and teach them "writing" is many, many different genres.
#g2great
In reply to @drgravityg
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:50 PM EDT
That sure makes me happy Jamie. It’s our too - welcome to the
#G2Great
circle!
JWrightTeaches
Apr 6 @ 8:49 PM EDT
That is my new favorite hashtag!
#g2great
In reply to @mindi_r
ShelfieTalk
Apr 6 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Love this expression- the pathway to the possible! Thanks
@DrMaryHoward
.
#G2great
In reply to @DrMaryHoward, @DrMaryHoward
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:51 PM EDT
Q3
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:51 PM EDT
That’s incredible Mindi. I love the too!
#G2Great
In reply to @JWrightTeaches, @mindi_r
TeachWriteEDU
Apr 6 @ 8:51 PM EDT
This is especially true as kids move up in grades, I think. Growth mindset is a struggle, esp in writing.
#G2Great
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A2: Most kids look at what they cannot do. We can help them create an identity of what they can do.
#G2Great
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 8:51 PM EDT
Absolutley! Great point
@laurenebrown19
"We have to be uncomfortable to grow." Remember to use
#G2Great
hashtag so everyone sees. xo
laurenebrown19
Apr 6 @ 8:50 PM EDT
I love reading the chats, and learning to read in a new format! Gotta be uncomfortable to grow!
In reply to @suzrolander, @hayhurst3
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 8:51 PM EDT
A2: Patty's bk has CR tools 4 helping students discover writing ID- she shares all we've been wanting-but didn't realize we wanted.
#G2Great
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:51 PM EDT
A2: Challenges in writing are not liabilities for a writer-- they are opportunities to grow.
#G2Great
ktkelly14
Apr 6 @ 8:51 PM EDT
Yes! Recently had the pleasure of hearing
@ProfessorDG
discuss inclusivity at Furman including the value in using 'and' NOT 'but'.
#g2great
In reply to @btkissel, @ProfessorDG
Gavin_Sonntag
Apr 6 @ 8:51 PM EDT
A2) Provide guidelines for Ss to develop voice in their writing! This voice chart is a GREAT mnemonic to use in the classroom!
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A3 Self-evaluation can make students central to the evaluation process and keep them at the center of all we do in their honor.
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A3 If process can allow for growth that is reflected in grading. Like a first draft grade - you know a chance to grow skillfulness
#G2Great
teresagross625
Apr 6 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A3: I spend a lot of time on the process, not giving grades, but letting them develop as writers.
#g2great
JWrightTeaches
Apr 6 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Today is your day! (I've started many - just have yet to finish them)
#g2great
#canrelate
In reply to @mindi_r
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Yes and when we start with the strengths, they becomes the umbrella for ll we do
#G2Great
(good to see you Amy!)
amy_jeff95
Apr 6 @ 8:50 PM EDT
#G2Great
Point out strengths and areas of improvement- students need to know what they are specifically doing right and wrong
joanneduncanjo
Apr 6 @ 8:52 PM EDT
ALL Ss need to know the we believe in them!
#G2great
In reply to @hayhurst3
tammylani
Apr 6 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Your "who" questions encourage ownership & independence.
#G2Great
In reply to @mindi_r
DinaMWeiss
Apr 6 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A2:
#G2Great
It's about ownership and engagement. And, encouraging Ss to develop their craft interdisciplinary.
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
Hey so happy to see you tonight girls!
#G2great
ShelfieTalk
Apr 6 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Love this expression- the pathway to the possible! Thanks
@DrMaryHoward
.
#G2great
In reply to @DrMaryHoward, @DrMaryHoward
mindi_r
Apr 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
#g2great
A3: I really hate grades. I am relieved to be shifting to standards-based evaluation, which allows me to ask where the writer is.
teresagross625
Apr 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A3: I love the checklists from Writing Units of Study, use them for every writing piece
#g2great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A3: I need help on this one. I simply feel grading is too restrictive to the complex, nuanced work writers do.
#g2great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
Our work should always strive to be a reflection of our students. We are generative and grow meaning together.
#G2Great
In reply to @teresagross625, @drgravityg
barberchicago
Apr 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A3: make grades standards-based instead of meaningless letters. Show Ss how they are working toward, proficient, etc. in an area.
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
#G2Great
Q3
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:51 PM EDT
Q3
#G2Great
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A3: I 💜the book's idea of feedback & grading in a play relationship. Follow-up Description of cooperative play is magical!
#g2great
flynn_catherine
Apr 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A3 We use rubrics, not grades. Then we can focus on strengths & areas where kids can improve their writing.
#G2great
drgravityg
Apr 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
As a professor, my st's writing grades were based on feedback they got from their intended audience which was usually not me.
#g2great
JillDerosa
Apr 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
It is not about perfection or seeing writing as good or bad. We should celebrate students that are taking risks- giving it a try
#g2Great
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A3: Oh grades, how you haunt writing teachers.
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
I LOVE that Patty. We have to see the potential in EVERY child & use it as a stepping stone to that potential!
#G2Great
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:51 PM EDT
A2: Challenges in writing are not liabilities for a writer-- they are opportunities to grow.
#G2Great
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Reminds me of our broad definition of writer
@jdolci
right? We all have a voice, we just express it differently.
#G2Great
drgravityg
Apr 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
If we want all students to identify as writers we need a broad definition of what it means, one where all st's are included
#G2Great
ShelfieTalk
Apr 6 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Great to be here! Love the learning that happens during
#g2great
. THE place to be on a Thursday night.
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Yes, we don’t want our teaching to get stuck in a time slot but stretch the learning across the day!
#G2Great
DinaMWeiss
Apr 6 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A2:
#G2Great
It's about ownership and engagement. And, encouraging Ss to develop their craft interdisciplinary.
teachermantrav
Apr 6 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A3: Goal-setting. Writing conferences. Reflections. Let Ss be part of the grading process. Let them prove they have made progress.
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:51 PM EDT
Q3
#G2Great
LRobbTeacher
Apr 6 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Form writing partnerships.Ss can get feedback from one another. Start w/ partners as these are safer than groups. Writers r fragile
#G2Great
TeachWriteEDU
Apr 6 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A broad definition of what it means to be a writer. I LOVE that!! We want all Ss to feel like a part of the cool club! :)
#G2Great
drgravityg
Apr 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
If we want all students to identify as writers we need a broad definition of what it means, one where all st's are included
#G2Great
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:54 PM EDT
#G2Great
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A3: I 💜the book's idea of feedback & grading in a play relationship. Follow-up Description of cooperative play is magical!
#g2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:55 PM EDT
A3 Lisa’s
@lisaeickholdt
focus student writing as mentor text offers such an amazing way to celebrate the writer AND the writing.
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Couldn’t agree more!
#G2Great
ShelfieTalk
Apr 6 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Great to be here! Love the learning that happens during
#g2great
. THE place to be on a Thursday night.
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Amen to this, Mary! I think self-evaluation provides a counter-narrative to the restrictive narratives standardized tests tell.
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A3 Self-evaluation can make students central to the evaluation process and keep them at the center of all we do in their honor.
#G2Great
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 8:55 PM EDT
...& yet your advice 4 carving out short/sweet time 4 grades, teacher/student roles in grading,& grading contracts make it easier!
#G2Great
In reply to @pmgmcgee
jdolci
Apr 6 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Coming up with ideas = writing? :)
#G2Great
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Reminds me of our broad definition of writer
@jdolci
right? We all have a voice, we just express it differently.
#G2Great
drgravityg
Apr 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
If we want all students to identify as writers we need a broad definition of what it means, one where all st's are included
#G2Great
laurenebrown19
Apr 6 @ 8:55 PM EDT
I feel the same about my k-12 education. It can be frustrating. Inspiring, too!
#G2great
In reply to @mindi_r, @JWrightTeaches
teachermantrav
Apr 6 @ 8:55 PM EDT
A3: part of my grading system involves a student-made grade presentation. Ss are asked to provide links to their best work.
#G2Great
teresagross625
Apr 6 @ 8:55 PM EDT
So true!
#g2great
In reply to @pmgmcgee
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:55 PM EDT
A3: Sequester grades and feedback. Tell Ss when you are wearing your grading had and when you are wearing your feedback hat.
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Yes Gravity.,., we can’t be the voice of authority. They need multiple sources of feedback!
#G2great
drgravityg
Apr 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
As a professor, my st's writing grades were based on feedback they got from their intended audience which was usually not me.
#g2great
jdolci
Apr 6 @ 8:56 PM EDT
We MUST start with strengths!
#G2Great
In reply to @suzrolander
teresagross625
Apr 6 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Yes, we use rubrics as well.
#g2great
In reply to @flynn_catherine
vrkimmel
Apr 6 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Valinda from TX K-6 coach just getting to join in. On the couch and ready to learn from the best!
#G2Great
Gavin_Sonntag
Apr 6 @ 8:56 PM EDT
A4) Reward risks in the classroom. If Ss succeed, that's great! If Ss fail, embrace failure. Show Ss they can learn from failure
#G2Great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Yes! Every writing assign. we have in my college classes have to be for audiences other than me-purposes other than getting a grade.
#G2Great
drgravityg
Apr 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
As a professor, my st's writing grades were based on feedback they got from their intended audience which was usually not me.
#g2great
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Yes, and storytelling and organization...all part of writing. Wouldn't you tell your kids that
@jdolci
?
#G2Great
jdolci
Apr 6 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Coming up with ideas = writing? :)
#G2Great
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Reminds me of our broad definition of writer
@jdolci
right? We all have a voice, we just express it differently.
#G2Great
drgravityg
Apr 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
If we want all students to identify as writers we need a broad definition of what it means, one where all st's are included
#G2Great
mindi_r
Apr 6 @ 8:56 PM EDT
#g2great
When I used to have to give grades, I made sure students knew when I was wearing each hat. Lots of FB during the process.
In reply to @pmgmcgee
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:56 PM EDT
A3: In our minds, we need to separate feedback and grading. Feedback that is not about grading has a larger impact on learning.
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:56 PM EDT
So true Jill … and also help them celebrate the inevitable struggle that is part of the writng process.
#G2Great
JillDerosa
Apr 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
It is not about perfection or seeing writing as good or bad. We should celebrate students that are taking risks- giving it a try
#g2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A3 If grades don’t open up a pathway to next steps, they have little value. Feedback is the key ingredient in that mix!
#G2Great
jdolci
Apr 6 @ 8:57 PM EDT
Right back at ya...just trying to pop in!
#G2Great
In reply to @suzrolander
teachermantrav
Apr 6 @ 8:57 PM EDT
I have been a victim of negative feedback, too.
#G2great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Many of my college Ss who don't consider themselves good writers almost always trace it back to a bad feedback experience with a T.
#G2Great
teachermantrav
Apr 6 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Q2: Feedback provides a direction. It is also non-threatening & is used to help grow the writer & writing, not destroy them.
#G2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
#G2Great
Q2
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Q2
#G2Great
teresagross625
Apr 6 @ 8:57 PM EDT
I LOVE that resource! The Ss love when I ask to use their writing.
#g2great
In reply to @DrMaryHoward, @LisaEickholdt
natasha_nurse
Apr 6 @ 8:57 PM EDT
Watching Ss excitement and confidence grow in writing when Ts point out what worked/what "could" work even better!
#Suggestions
#G2great
laurenebrown19
Apr 6 @ 8:57 PM EDT
I think of
@ConferringCarl
saying that at
#ps234
years ago! Such good advice. Can't have independent w/o it.
#G2great
In reply to @joanneduncanjo, @ConferringCarl
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:57 PM EDT
I love that Laura. It’s a wonderful cycle because they learn about writing in the course of feedback and vice verse.
#G2Great
LRobbTeacher
Apr 6 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Form writing partnerships.Ss can get feedback from one another. Start w/ partners as these are safer than groups. Writers r fragile
#G2Great
joanneduncanjo
Apr 6 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A3- Grades shouldn't be something to fear.Grades should be based on growth with a clear focus on strengths and next steps.
#G2great
TeachWriteEDU
Apr 6 @ 8:57 PM EDT
This is so empowering! I needed to read these words tonight
@pmgmcgee
. Thank you!
#G2Great
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:51 PM EDT
A2: Challenges in writing are not liabilities for a writer-- they are opportunities to grow.
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:58 PM EDT
#G2Great
jdolci
Apr 6 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Does this story sound familiar
@suzrolander
@DrMaryHoward
??
#G2Great
teachermantrav
Apr 6 @ 8:57 PM EDT
I have been a victim of negative feedback, too.
#G2great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Many of my college Ss who don't consider themselves good writers almost always trace it back to a bad feedback experience with a T.
#G2Great
teachermantrav
Apr 6 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Q2: Feedback provides a direction. It is also non-threatening & is used to help grow the writer & writing, not destroy them.
#G2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
#G2Great
Q2
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Q2
#G2Great
ktkelly14
Apr 6 @ 8:58 PM EDT
A3 Great question! This is a struggle for me. I personally don't believe in grades but am required to assign grades nevertheless.
#G2Great
c_rejent
Apr 6 @ 8:58 PM EDT
A3 Started giving feedback only. Grades only go in online gradebook
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btkissel
Apr 6 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Unfortunately, I bet all of us on this chat have been victims of a past negative experience.
#G2Great
teachermantrav
Apr 6 @ 8:57 PM EDT
I have been a victim of negative feedback, too.
#G2great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Many of my college Ss who don't consider themselves good writers almost always trace it back to a bad feedback experience with a T.
#G2Great
teachermantrav
Apr 6 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Q2: Feedback provides a direction. It is also non-threatening & is used to help grow the writer & writing, not destroy them.
#G2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
#G2Great
Q2
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Q2
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mindi_r
Apr 6 @ 8:58 PM EDT
#g2great
I’m a much better writing teacher now than I was in 1994 when I started this gig.
In reply to @pmgmcgee
KMreaders
Apr 6 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Kim K-5 interv. From NJ jumping in way too late but in need of this
#g2great
chat!!
LRobbTeacher
Apr 6 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Yes, appreciate students being part of grading. Mid school Ss can explain a grade which adds reflection
#G2Great
In reply to @teachermantrav
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:58 PM EDT
& I love feedback protocols so Ss can give meaningful feedback with guidance (and not correcting other's writing).
#G2great
In reply to @LRobbTeacher
joanneduncanjo
Apr 6 @ 8:58 PM EDT
I love this. Risks should be celebrated!
#G2Great
In reply to @JillDerosa
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:58 PM EDT
That was my thinking too
@joanneduncanjo
#G2Great
In reply to @joanneduncanjo, @joanneduncanjo
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 8:58 PM EDT
I LOVE this
@drgravityg
What a great idea...it always felt so odd that we taught about feedback differently than we practiced.
#G2Great
drgravityg
Apr 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
As a professor, my st's writing grades were based on feedback they got from their intended audience which was usually not me.
#g2great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Q4
#G2Great
teresagross625
Apr 6 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Love reading all the responses.
#g2great
ShelfieTalk
Apr 6 @ 8:59 PM EDT
A3 Students can be curators of their own learning- they can reflect on and articulate their experiences as part assessment.
#g2great
mindi_r
Apr 6 @ 8:59 PM EDT
#g2great
The sea of red ink on an essay returned weeks after it was too late to revise it. I remember that comp class.
In reply to @teachermantrav
barberchicago
Apr 6 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Same here. I keep grades and feedback completely separate. And what’s in my gradebook is more standards-based.
#G2Great
In reply to @c_rejent
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:59 PM EDT
@TeachWriteEDU
Is this your first
#G2Great
chat?
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:59 PM EDT
#G2Great
Q4
@amy_jeff95
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Q4
#G2Great
teachermantrav
Apr 6 @ 8:59 PM EDT
We give reading inventories, why not give writing inventories? What types of writing would you ❤ to experiment with?
#G2Great
vrkimmel
Apr 6 @ 8:59 PM EDT
A3 Love letting Ss lay out their writing on a continuum. "This composition is here because I've improved in this area here..."
#G2Great
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Reminds me of
@tribecateacher
k kids this a.m. They were not phased to try to write Australia. We create a culture of risk takers.
#G2Great
JillDerosa
Apr 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
It is not about perfection or seeing writing as good or bad. We should celebrate students that are taking risks- giving it a try
#g2Great
laurenebrown19
Apr 6 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Formulating a strategy = math, no? Samesies?
#G2great
In reply to @jdolci
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Teaching Ss how to give each other meaningful feedback (AND providing options for doing so) not only super cool, also empowering!
#G2Great
In reply to @pmgmcgee, @LRobbTeacher
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:00 PM EDT
A4 Risk taking is fueled by generative learning there is a sharing that goes on as we construct risk so: "How can we..." <3 risk
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:00 PM EDT
A4 It begins by creating a positive environment of risk-taking engrained in the day-to-day culture of the classroom.
#G2Great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:00 PM EDT
A4: Feedback for writers who are stuck: “Instead of writing, draw first.”
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TeachWriteEDU
Apr 6 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Nope, I was here last week too. :)
#G2Great
In reply to @hayhurst3
barberchicago
Apr 6 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Oooooooh. I love this.
#G2Great
teachermantrav
Apr 6 @ 8:59 PM EDT
We give reading inventories, why not give writing inventories? What types of writing would you ❤ to experiment with?
#G2Great
Gavin_Sonntag
Apr 6 @ 9:00 PM EDT
A5) An easy way for you & Ss to keep track of goals is to post them in the classroom. It also is a great tool for motivation!
#G2Great
teresagross625
Apr 6 @ 9:00 PM EDT
This was fun! So glad to join the conversation for a bit! Night everyone!
#g2great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:00 PM EDT
A4: Feedback for writers who are stuck: “Instead of writing, talk first.”
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Hudsonwife16
Apr 6 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Sad I missed this one
#g2great
In reply to @teresagross625
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Thinking about risk now... check out: Benson Hawk
https://t.co/k9W9teCzzC
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Thinking about risk now... check out: Benson Hawk
https://t.co/h4MvTNx9Ms
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Night Teresa. So happy you came
#G2Great
teresagross625
Apr 6 @ 9:00 PM EDT
This was fun! So glad to join the conversation for a bit! Night everyone!
#g2great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:01 PM EDT
A4: Feedback for writers who are stuck: “Instead of writing, read first.”
#G2Great
jdolci
Apr 6 @ 9:01 PM EDT
#TOTALLYAGREED
#G2Great
In reply to @laurenebrown19
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Yes, and storytelling and organization...all part of writing. Wouldn't you tell your kids that
@jdolci
?
#G2Great
jdolci
Apr 6 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Coming up with ideas = writing? :)
#G2Great
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Reminds me of our broad definition of writer
@jdolci
right? We all have a voice, we just express it differently.
#G2Great
drgravityg
Apr 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
If we want all students to identify as writers we need a broad definition of what it means, one where all st's are included
#G2Great
DinaMWeiss
Apr 6 @ 9:01 PM EDT
A3:
#G2Great
The on demand pre-assmnt is gold. Give them rubric to assess their own pre-assmnt thereby identifying their own goals to meet
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Q3: Non eval feedback leaves out praise and modifiers-- l love, you are awesome, amazing & instead names the impact of the writing
#G2Great
ktkelly14
Apr 6 @ 9:01 PM EDT
A4 Ss must feel valued and part of the classroom community where they can feel safe to take risks as writers.
#G2Great
mindi_r
Apr 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
#g2great
Definitely. I was surprised by how afraid of “mistakes” my 3rd graders were in August. I was used to it in 7th graders.Hard to undo
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
A child's words (and beloved student) say it best...
#g2great
barberchicago
Apr 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
A4) Toying w/ the idea of mentor text as model for risk-taking. A book an S loves might be a gateway to explore writing techniques.
#G2Great
KMreaders
Apr 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
#g2great
@drgravityg
It is essential to start highlighting intended audience in primary. Why not follow this path in upper elem & beyond
drgravityg
Apr 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
As a professor, my st's writing grades were based on feedback they got from their intended audience which was usually not me.
#g2great
tammylani
Apr 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
A4: What mentor author might you use to help or want to mimic?
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btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Oh...I just got shivers recalling some of these experiences from high school! haha
#G2Great
mindi_r
Apr 6 @ 8:59 PM EDT
#g2great
The sea of red ink on an essay returned weeks after it was too late to revise it. I remember that comp class.
In reply to @teachermantrav
LitROCK_taylor
Apr 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
I love this! Feedback has a larger impact on learning
#G2Great
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 8:56 PM EDT
A3: In our minds, we need to separate feedback and grading. Feedback that is not about grading has a larger impact on learning.
#G2Great
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
A4: Risk taking is so uncomfortable. Celebrate the discomfort.
#G2Great
pranikoff
Apr 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
.
@btkissel
and talking through ideas at all ages is good, too.
#G2Great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:00 PM EDT
A4: Feedback for writers who are stuck: “Instead of writing, draw first.”
#G2Great
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
And we have to model risk also to help create a culture that embraces risk.
#G2Great
Gavin_Sonntag
Apr 6 @ 8:56 PM EDT
A4) Reward risks in the classroom. If Ss succeed, that's great! If Ss fail, embrace failure. Show Ss they can learn from failure
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
A4 Use writing as a springboard but keep the writer in the driver’s seat. Good feedback gently nudges (not shoves).
#G2Great
kbteach26
Apr 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Great idea. Inventories often show how much writing we already do. Can be surprising to know you already are a writer.
#G2Great
teachermantrav
Apr 6 @ 8:59 PM EDT
We give reading inventories, why not give writing inventories? What types of writing would you ❤ to experiment with?
#G2Great
JillDerosa
Apr 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
A conversation about what they are trying out as writers and possible ways to achieve this-pick and try it out- did it work for you
#G2Great
mollienye72
Apr 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
A3:we're fortunate to have standards based report cards, but even with clear PLDs, I spend a lot of time explaining to Ps.
#G2great
TeachWriteEDU
Apr 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
A4: I like to share how I take risks with my own writing. My Ss are then more willing to do the same.
#G2Great
jdolci
Apr 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
I purposely did that!
#SINCEREHAND
#G2Great
In reply to @suzrolander, @laurenebrown19
mindi_r
Apr 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
#g2great
And educate parents. Many of them don’t like the idea of their babies feeling discomfort. But discomfort is part of learning!
In reply to @pmgmcgee
Gavin_Sonntag
Apr 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
A6) Incorporate feedback in a way that fosters a growth mindset! Also, show students ways to develop a growth mindset
#G2Great
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
A4: Kids will not take risks if they know they will be corrected. Instead, if they ask for feedback on the risk-- very different.
#G2Great
c_rejent
Apr 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
A4 Telling Ss "I trust you" and "Trust yourself"
#G2Great
buckleyroberts
Apr 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
First time in the
#G2Great
chat. Happened to see it on my tweet deck. What is it? Looks really interesting
vrkimmel
Apr 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
A4 Love using mentor pieces that show author took a risk. Ss identify that, discuss, confer to ask where S can take similar risk.
#G2Great
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Absolutely...kids have to learn to recognize struggle and realize that it is part of growth. We adults need to learn that too!
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:56 PM EDT
So true Jill … and also help them celebrate the inevitable struggle that is part of the writng process.
#G2Great
JillDerosa
Apr 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
It is not about perfection or seeing writing as good or bad. We should celebrate students that are taking risks- giving it a try
#g2Great
ShelfieTalk
Apr 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
A4 Mentor texts encourage risk-taking by allowing Ss to ask "What do I see this author doing that I'd like to experiment with?"
#G2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
But just say the word and will keep sending your way
#G2Great
In reply to @amy_jeff95
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
I love the idea of being a risk SEEKER- looking for opportunities to get messy & expand possibilities
#G2Great
teachermantrav
Apr 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Give them a chance to look at writing that reflects theirs. What did this author do that you could do?
#G2great
#mentortexts
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Q4
#G2Great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Um....LOVE these reflections! :)
#G2Great
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
A child's words (and beloved student) say it best...
#g2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
A4 Create a feedback cycle. Light the fire but have the courage to walk away to promote independence & check back later.
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
#G2Great
LRobbTeacher
Apr 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Agree with Patty--grades can derail feeling I can get there. The Q to ponder is when should writers be graded? Tough to answer
#G2Great
LitROCK_taylor
Apr 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
A4 speak to your personal experiences as a writer and share the strategies you use when you get stuck
#G2Great
pranikoff
Apr 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
A5: Have writers identify their mentors (adult or student) and explain how that mentor helped push their own writing.
#G2Great
TeachWriteEDU
Apr 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Yes, the dreaded red pen….ugh.
#G2Great
mindi_r
Apr 6 @ 8:59 PM EDT
#g2great
The sea of red ink on an essay returned weeks after it was too late to revise it. I remember that comp class.
In reply to @teachermantrav
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
.
@jdolci
I can't wait for you and
@laurenebrown19
to meet in person sometime soon! You are both the coolest!
#G2great
jdolci
Apr 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
I purposely did that!
#SINCEREHAND
#G2Great
In reply to @suzrolander, @laurenebrown19
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Welcome to
#G2Great
. Hey Amy and Jenn another first time friend
@brennanamy
@hayhurst3
So happy you joined us!
buckleyroberts
Apr 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
First time in the
#G2Great
chat. Happened to see it on my tweet deck. What is it? Looks really interesting
LRobbTeacher
Apr 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Totally agree!!
#G2Great
In reply to @pmgmcgee
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Q5
#G2Great
teachermantrav
Apr 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Also, having them read their work aloud helps them see deficits and areas for more elaboration. Had this discussion w/ Ss today!
#G2Great
laurenebrown19
Apr 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Yes please!
#G2great
In reply to @suzrolander, @jdolci
TeachWriteEDU
Apr 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
I agree - standards-based grading does make assigning that letter grade a tad bit easier.
#G2Great
In reply to @barberchicago, @c_rejent
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
.
@DrMaryHoward
are you sitting back? I just have a sign that says 40+ more and I am so behind. Enjoying the flow of wonderfulness!
#G2Great
mollienye72
Apr 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
A4: cultivating an environment which honors and values risk taking that carries into every part of the day.
#G2great
jdolci
Apr 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Yes...That tight rope of support and building agency
#G2Great
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
jhaylett16
Apr 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
A4: In K, when giving feedback to reluctant Ws, I only focus on what the W is doing well for a few conferences to build confidence
#G2great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
A5: We ask students to write down their goals. Then, we spend time each week/month re-visiting those goals.
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A5 Avoid one-shot feedback that only touches on goals and offer broader opportunities to revisit/reflect those goals over time.
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A5 Responsive teaching it always comes back to that. Ss goals are fluid & Ts are the centerboard to use a sailing metaphor
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Words of Wisdom from
#G2Great
PLN
teachermantrav
Apr 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Give them a chance to look at writing that reflects theirs. What did this author do that you could do?
#G2great
#mentortexts
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Q4
#G2Great
pranikoff
Apr 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Or, talk about the specific ways that the writing moved you as a reader. Naming the impact is key.
#G2Great
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Q3: Non eval feedback leaves out praise and modifiers-- l love, you are awesome, amazing & instead names the impact of the writing
#G2Great
ktkelly14
Apr 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
We must put the damn pens (no matter what color) down folks! (Can I say that?) 🙀 Don't fix the writing!
#g2great
In reply to @btkissel
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
I definitely need to practice this. I can absolutley see how powerful but it is years of habit.
#G2Great
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Q3: Non eval feedback leaves out praise and modifiers-- l love, you are awesome, amazing & instead names the impact of the writing
#G2Great
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A5: Powerful goals come from somewhere (perhaps reflection? partner FB? ) We then need to get a plan in place & motivation 2 begin.
#G2Great
c_rejent
Apr 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A4 Take risks in front of your Ss. Let them see you be "comfortable with being uncomfortable"
#G2Great
sound right
@pmgmcgee
?
Gavin_Sonntag
Apr 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A7) Provide formative assessments so Ss can evaluate & reflect upon their learning. My person favorite - Emoji Exit Tickets!
#G2Great
jdolci
Apr 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Looking forward to it!
#G2Great
In reply to @suzrolander, @laurenebrown19
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Get ready...I got sucked in a few weeks ago and now I'm here every Thursday! I've become a
#G2Great
groupie!
@DrMaryHoward
In reply to @buckleyroberts, @DrMaryHoward
KMreaders
Apr 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A4 writer-watch & take time to mine. What did S do?? Well bc S did... now S is ready for... such powerful language
@pmgmcgee
#g2great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Q4
#G2Great
LRobbTeacher
Apr 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Important to find & give feedback first in what's
https://t.co/VtmbpuuTji
kindness to and respect for writer.
#G2Great
In reply to @pmgmcgee
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Such a great idea Kara!
#G2Great
pranikoff
Apr 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
A5: Have writers identify their mentors (adult or student) and explain how that mentor helped push their own writing.
#G2Great
joanneduncanjo
Apr 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A4-"I care more about you being brave & giving it a try. You can't go wrong if you just give it a go. It's okay." :)
#G2Great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Say it again!
#G2Great
ktkelly14
Apr 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
We must put the damn pens (no matter what color) down folks! (Can I say that?) 🙀 Don't fix the writing!
#g2great
In reply to @btkissel
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
To help kids reach their goals think: If I were this writer, with this piece, and this goal, what would be my logical next step?
#G2Great
laurenebrown19
Apr 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Talk about teaching the writer! Teaching the human! I love it. Go deep.
#G2great
In reply to @PamKou, @pmgmcgee
sarah_scheldt
Apr 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
#G2Great
ask the Ss what their working on and how you can help them the writer, not the writing. Listen to their needs and allow ownership
mollienye72
Apr 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A4: sharing my struggles is key, too. Ss need to see how we handle risks and challenges. Interactive modeling is so important.
#G2great
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
We have such an important job as chief risk taker and mistake maker (and modeling celebrating those "mistakes")
#G2Great
In reply to @c_rejent, @pmgmcgee
rdgtchr13
Apr 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A4- Sometimes I say "I think you might be ready for...Do you think you might be ready for?" Wide eyes and nods usually.
#G2Great
vrkimmel
Apr 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A4 Find wrtng where Ss took a risk (no matter how small) ask Qs to get Ss to reflect on their process. Procedural feedback is best
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A5 Create a thread to connect goals so they can work together for a greater good & make this interrelated process visible.
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
I tried to warn you. Didn’t I say it was addictive!
#G2Great
We love our groupies Brian!
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Get ready...I got sucked in a few weeks ago and now I'm here every Thursday! I've become a
#G2Great
groupie!
@DrMaryHoward
In reply to @buckleyroberts, @DrMaryHoward
joanneduncanjo
Apr 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Yes, they have to see and know that we all get stuck.
#G2Great
In reply to @LitROCK_taylor
barberchicago
Apr 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
My Ss would LOVE this. And it’s so multifunctional!
#G2Great
In reply to @Gavin_Sonntag
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A5: We also have Goals Conferences. We ask: “In what ways are you working towards your goals?"
#G2Great
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Two of my favorite people
@jdolci
@laurenebrown19
#G2Great
...but the amazing people DO hang out on this chat so no surprise!
jdolci
Apr 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Looking forward to it!
#G2Great
In reply to @suzrolander, @laurenebrown19
flynn_catherine
Apr 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Sorry to miss the rest of this terrific chat, but I have to run. Thank you,
@DrMaryHoward
,
@hayhurst3
,
@brennanamy
&
@pmgmcgee
!
#G2Great
pranikoff
Apr 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A4: Find quotes from authors kids know or invite adults into the classroom to tell stories of their own risk taking in writing.
#G2Great
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Yes- because rarely do we meet or exceed a target after one go at it. All part of a bigger picture :-)
#G2Great
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Yes! Pick a goal and plan a series of learning experiences to reach that goal.
#G2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A5 Avoid one-shot feedback that only touches on goals and offer broader opportunities to revisit/reflect those goals over time.
#G2Great
teachermantrav
Apr 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Reflection is key here. Portfolios help Ss see how they've grown as writers & thinkers. What trends in feedback do they see?
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Q5
#G2Great
buckleyroberts
Apr 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
if you don't mind my ignorance, what does
#G2Great
stand for?
barberchicago
Apr 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Same here. This
#G2Great
is only my 2nd. I got sucked in during the Serravallo chat!
In reply to @btkissel, @buckleyroberts, @DrMaryHoward
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Confidence becomes the undergirder at those early stages so we want a strong one!
#G2Great
jhaylett16
Apr 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
A4: In K, when giving feedback to reluctant Ws, I only focus on what the W is doing well for a few conferences to build confidence
#G2great
amy_jeff95
Apr 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A4: Model. Give a suggestion of what they might think about then say see me 4 help.
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
YES YES YES
#G2Great
jdolci
Apr 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
FRAME WORTHY as
@DrMaryHoward
would say!
sarah_scheldt
Apr 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A5
#G2Great
give students ownership over what they're writing. Ask them how you can help them, the writer, and NOT the writing.
barberchicago
Apr 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Beautiful.
#G2Great
joanneduncanjo
Apr 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A4-"I care more about you being brave & giving it a try. You can't go wrong if you just give it a go. It's okay." :)
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Talk about giving writers WINGS. That would do it friend
#G2Great
joanneduncanjo
Apr 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A4-"I care more about you being brave & giving it a try. You can't go wrong if you just give it a go. It's okay." :)
#G2Great
LRobbTeacher
Apr 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
So important to model how to respond so students suggest and not take over. So true!
#G2Great
In reply to @pmgmcgee
TeachWriteEDU
Apr 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
It is taking me FOREVER to keep up with tonight’s
#G2Great
chat bec there is so much goodness here—I’m savoring every word…and taking notes!
pranikoff
Apr 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
.
@PamKou
I love the language of risk SEEKER. I can see a future share - How were you a risk seeker today?
#G2Great
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
I love the idea of being a risk SEEKER- looking for opportunities to get messy & expand possibilities
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A5 Make room for kids to set their own goals w/in the feedback structure to create a shared responsibility goal setting design.
#G2Great
joanneduncanjo
Apr 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Hi Justine. So great to see you here!
#G2Great
In reply to @jdolci, @DrMaryHoward
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
We are happy as long as we get you
@flynn_catherine
#G2Great
In reply to @flynn_catherine, @DrMaryHoward, @brennanamy, @pmgmcgee, @flynn_catherine
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Yes it’s so important that we aren’t writing goals for the sake of writing goals but using them as a springboard to NEW
#G2Great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
A5: We ask students to write down their goals. Then, we spend time each week/month re-visiting those goals.
#G2Great
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Talking @ ideas has helped
@jdolci
and me so much...we took
@pranikoff
's lead.
#G2Great
pranikoff
Apr 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
.
@btkissel
and talking through ideas at all ages is good, too.
#G2Great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:00 PM EDT
A4: Feedback for writers who are stuck: “Instead of writing, draw first.”
#G2Great
JillDerosa
Apr 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
We empower students to set goals, show them possible ways to reach them, give time to work independently and reflect
#g2great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
#G2Great
LitROCK_taylor
Apr 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A5 put aside what the standards/curriculum tells you to do and work within the Ss ZPD pushing them to the next level
#G2Great
jlpuuri
Apr 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
I love this as well. It's great for them to see how they've grown as a writer.
#G2Great
In reply to @vrkimmel
KMreaders
Apr 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A5 mentor texts are beyond powerful - not just "published" authors but any text/writing that guides a writer
#G2great
ktkelly14
Apr 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A4 If we want our Ss to take risks we must show them we take risks as writers too. Let them see our vulnerability.
#TeacherAsWriter
#G2Great
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
So excited to be connected here...althought we work in the same building
@jdolci
, Lauren and I hardly ever see each other.
#G2Great
rocks
laurenebrown19
Apr 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
You are the sweetest! You hold me up. And I do alright in the holding-up department! Thanks, Light.
In reply to @suzrolander, @jdolci
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Since u mentioned it...This is the last in a blog series on RISK SEEKING All are linked to this one :-)
https://t.co/5BKmtfxdRC
#G2Great
In reply to @pranikoff
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
oops sorry I missed this. Do you use Tweetdeck. It’s a lifesaver! You have to see the
#G2great
tweets
In reply to @amy_jeff95
jdolci
Apr 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
You too, my friend! xoxo
#G2Great
In reply to @joanneduncanjo, @DrMaryHoward
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Q6
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:13 PM EDT
#G2Great
@amy_jeff95
pranikoff
Apr 6 @ 9:13 PM EDT
.
@DrMaryHoward
Walking away = action that tells writers, "I know you can do it. I can't wait to come back and read it later."
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
A4 Create a feedback cycle. Light the fire but have the courage to walk away to promote independence & check back later.
#G2Great
LRobbTeacher
Apr 6 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Absolutely!
#G2Great
In reply to @pmgmcgee
mollienye72
Apr 6 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A5: very carefully and with a lot of guidance. W/primary Ss it's a skill that is only starting to develop.
#G2great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Wait a minute...what's a Tweetdeck! Teach us, Mary! :)
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
oops sorry I missed this. Do you use Tweetdeck. It’s a lifesaver! You have to see the
#G2great
tweets
In reply to @amy_jeff95
mindi_r
Apr 6 @ 9:13 PM EDT
#g2great
A5: As others have mentioned, ask students what THEY want feedback on. Let students set goals.
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A5: Choice in writing is so simple yet very new. We as "feedbackers" can simpy say, "Would you like to try this or this?"
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A6 Keep kids in the loop & create a feedback ZOOM LENS. Let Stds choose one BIG IDEA from a few to work toward.
#G2Great
ktkelly14
Apr 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Yea I've heard about this but don't know what it is or how to do it!
#G2Great
In reply to @btkissel
ShelfieTalk
Apr 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A5 Inviting students to tell us what they want feedback on and how they would like to receive that feedback makes it meaningful.
#G2Great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A6: To offer choice in feedback we ask a simple question: “How can I help YOU as a writer?”
#g2great
mindi_r
Apr 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
#g2great
Tweetdeck is in app that is a MUST if you participate in chats. You can slow down the stream & have different columns.
In reply to @btkissel
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
I just had a thought that touched my heart. ALL of YOU are inspiring & enriching the writing lives of kids. The BEST kind of domino
#G2Great
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Absolutely
@LitROCK_taylor
and this is exactly why we need to be active writers ourselves.
#G2Great
LitROCK_taylor
Apr 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
A4 speak to your personal experiences as a writer and share the strategies you use when you get stuck
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A6 When feedback is an extension of shared ownership.
#G2Great
Everything we do is in service of independence & meaning making & purpose.
barberchicago
Apr 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A6) Ask Ss what they’d like to work on. “What area of writing would you like me to look at and give you feedback?” Let them choose.
#G2Great
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A6:Remembering 1st,we are talking to people, then people who r writers,& last writers who r working on a piece.Piece- not the focus
#G2Great
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A6: Ss own their writing with a focus on audience. Notice how invested writers become when s/he knows who is listening.
#G2Great
c_rejent
Apr 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A5 Informed goal setting is empowering. Ss should know what growing they will do within a goal. Break goal into parts.
#G2Great
mindi_r
Apr 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
#g2great
My screen in Tweetdeck
laurenebrown19
Apr 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
.
@danfeigelson
@pranikoff
@suzrolander
Dan this makes me think of your reading conferences!
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Q6
#G2Great
pranikoff
Apr 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Can't wait to read through it
@PamKou
I'm so glad you shared this with me. THANK YOU!
#G2Great
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Since u mentioned it...This is the last in a blog series on RISK SEEKING All are linked to this one :-)
https://t.co/5BKmtfxdRC
#G2Great
In reply to @pranikoff
JillDerosa
Apr 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Listen to our students' voices and encourage them to use writing with a purpose and to impact others
#g2great
ShelfieTalk
Apr 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Game changer!
#G2Great
In reply to @btkissel
KMreaders
Apr 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Writers esp. our youngest often believe feedback from the T is the be all end all - lets work to avoid such culture
#g2great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Q6
#G2Great
natasha_nurse
Apr 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@pranikoff
I agree, having students get messy when writing and slowly clean up with setting realistic goals/authentic feedback.
#G2great
DinaMWeiss
Apr 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A6:
#G2Great
"Perhaps you want to consider...It could articulate your idea clearer because...What do you think?"
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A6: My fav choice Fdbk area is in grammar--not whether to use grammar, but which grammar technique to use for impact and style.
#G2Great
pranikoff
Apr 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
.
@laurenebrown19
I agree. The idea of ownership and agency is right up Dan's alley.
@danfeigelson
@suzrolander
#G2Great
laurenebrown19
Apr 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
.
@danfeigelson
@pranikoff
@suzrolander
Dan this makes me think of your reading conferences!
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Q6
#G2Great
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A6: Choices build ownership& this brings growth. I'm more likely 2 do anything when presented w a choice- often resist when "told."
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A6 If all we hear is the Ts’ voice we’re missing key players. Invite Sts to feedback conversations so their voices rise above ours.
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
#G2Great
@amy_jeff95
RobKarklin
Apr 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Hello
@DrMaryHoward
! First time w/
#G2Great
. I'm struggling a bit to keep up w/everyone, but Patty is awesome and well worth the struggle!
LisaEickholdt
Apr 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
I finally made it! Lisa from Georgia jumping in for a few minutes to my favorite weekly chat!
#g2great
RebeccaMarsick
Apr 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A6:
@teachkate
microprogressions give ss so much ownership in deciding which feedback is best for them depending upon skill
#G2Great
barberchicago
Apr 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Yes!! If I am talking, they’re not thinking, growing, creating!
#G2Great
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Hi Lisa!!! This has been a great one! :)
#G2Great
In reply to @LisaEickholdt
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
t’s a MUST HAVE Twitter tool I'm FAMOUS for my tweetdeck phone lessons & I just happen to have room in my training schedule ❤️
#G2Great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Wait a minute...what's a Tweetdeck! Teach us, Mary! :)
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
oops sorry I missed this. Do you use Tweetdeck. It’s a lifesaver! You have to see the
#G2great
tweets
In reply to @amy_jeff95
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
So agree
@mindi_r
It has absolutely changed my chat life!
#G2Great
mindi_r
Apr 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
#g2great
Tweetdeck is in app that is a MUST if you participate in chats. You can slow down the stream & have different columns.
In reply to @btkissel
LRobbTeacher
Apr 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Amen! Writing takes time--needs time & feedback occurs thru process. Keep open conf. Policy so Ss can seek it & know they're safe
#G2Great
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
KMreaders
Apr 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Yessssss
@pmgmcgee
Writers Write for Readers!!!!!
#g2great
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A6: Ss own their writing with a focus on audience. Notice how invested writers become when s/he knows who is listening.
#G2Great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Rob...you just entered the BEST Thursday night PD and community.
#G2Great
RobKarklin
Apr 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Hello
@DrMaryHoward
! First time w/
#G2Great
. I'm struggling a bit to keep up w/everyone, but Patty is awesome and well worth the struggle!
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
My 7 year old nephew just celebrated opinion unit efforts by posting his review on YELP- so authentic! Smarty pants teachers.
#g2great
In reply to @pmgmcgee
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
#G2Great
KMreaders
Apr 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Writers esp. our youngest often believe feedback from the T is the be all end all - lets work to avoid such culture
#g2great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Q6
#G2Great
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
And actually
@DrMaryHoward
You are the heart of our inspiration. Hats off to you, my friend!
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
I just had a thought that touched my heart. ALL of YOU are inspiring & enriching the writing lives of kids. The BEST kind of domino
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Welcome Rob. We’re so thrilled to have you here. We meet every Thursday but Tweetdeck is a MSUT twitter tool. So happy you’re here!
#G2Great
RobKarklin
Apr 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Hello
@DrMaryHoward
! First time w/
#G2Great
. I'm struggling a bit to keep up w/everyone, but Patty is awesome and well worth the struggle!
vrkimmel
Apr 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A6 Hattie on feedback--this type of feedback facilitates agency/ownership.
https://t.co/LMeqRVYHdZ
#G2Great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Okay...setting this up for the next chat!
#G2Great
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
So agree
@mindi_r
It has absolutely changed my chat life!
#G2Great
mindi_r
Apr 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
#g2great
Tweetdeck is in app that is a MUST if you participate in chats. You can slow down the stream & have different columns.
In reply to @btkissel
RebeccaMarsick
Apr 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A6: having students set the goal at a writing conference helps foster independence + forces them to evaluate writing b4 teacher
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A6 There’s more than one-way to achieve a goal. Fine-tune a goal together but offer options for moving towards it.
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Yes Laura. SO SO important!
#G2Great
LRobbTeacher
Apr 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Amen! Writing takes time--needs time & feedback occurs thru process. Keep open conf. Policy so Ss can seek it & know they're safe
#G2Great
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Love this Pam!
#G2Great
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
My 7 year old nephew just celebrated opinion unit efforts by posting his review on YELP- so authentic! Smarty pants teachers.
#g2great
In reply to @pmgmcgee
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Thanks. That was a bold move for me- I'm honestly incredibly shy- lol. Let me know your thoughts- I'd love to hear.
#G2Great
In reply to @pranikoff
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A6: Easy way to build in ownership and agency when giving feedback: Ask the student: would you like to work on this...or this...
#G2Great
pranikoff
Apr 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
.
@natasha_nurse
I love the language of getting messy. That is where the learning is. Writing is about process, not product.
#G2Great
natasha_nurse
Apr 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@pranikoff
I agree, having students get messy when writing and slowly clean up with setting realistic goals/authentic feedback.
#G2great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Q7
#G2Great
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Oh DO! It will seriously change your life!
#G2Great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Okay...setting this up for the next chat!
#G2Great
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
So agree
@mindi_r
It has absolutely changed my chat life!
#G2Great
mindi_r
Apr 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
#g2great
Tweetdeck is in app that is a MUST if you participate in chats. You can slow down the stream & have different columns.
In reply to @btkissel
ktkelly14
Apr 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Yes! I ask students to determine what they want feedback on. Let them set the agenda.
#G2Great
In reply to @RebeccaMarsick
pcroskey3
Apr 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
#G2Great
HI Everyone! Paulina, Literacy Coach from the Virgin Islands. In late, so as I'm lurking and retweeting. Great conversation!!!
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Me too- you KNOW I find this a little too exciting. lol
#G2Great
In reply to @pmgmcgee
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Let me know if you need help. I really do love to help people via phone get it up and running!
#G2Great
amy_jeff95
Apr 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
I have never heard of it but I will be investigating! Twitter= BEST pd
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
mindi_r
Apr 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
#g2great
A7: For me, I have to remember to make time for reflection and to TEACH the kids how to be self-reflective. Not all know how.
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A7 WIDEN your reflection scope by offering a variety of ways for Sts to reflect (writing, tape recorder, partner, group).
#G2Great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A7: Quick-write reflections is one powerful way to ask students to reflect on learning.
#G2Great
pranikoff
Apr 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Well, it's appreciated!
@PamKou
I'll get back to you after I read the blog. You were a risk SEEKER and it worked out just fine!
#G2Great
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Thanks. That was a bold move for me- I'm honestly incredibly shy- lol. Let me know your thoughts- I'd love to hear.
#G2Great
In reply to @pranikoff
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A7: Then, over time, students can look at their collection of quick-writes to see how they’ve grown.
#G2Great
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A7: When I moved from rubrics to reflective work- WOW- the impact on morale, excitement, and actual work was mind blowing!
#g2great
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Reminds me of
@laurenebrown19
putting her class on Twitter to discuss bks. Using tech as a tool to get ideas out=fabulous.
#G2Great
#PS234
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
My 7 year old nephew just celebrated opinion unit efforts by posting his review on YELP- so authentic! Smarty pants teachers.
#g2great
In reply to @pmgmcgee
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A7 Reflection has to be linked to intentional work and has to shed insights on the process & the writer's place in that process.
#G2Great
TeachWriteEDU
Apr 6 @ 9:23 PM EDT
So….a feedback group? I see some possibility there.
#G2great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A6 If all we hear is the Ts’ voice we’re missing key players. Invite Sts to feedback conversations so their voices rise above ours.
#G2Great
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A7: I believe in this for ALL. If we want to remember what we have learned, we need to reflect.
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:23 PM EDT
.
@brennanamy
@DrMaryHoward
and I are so happy you are going to be a member of the
#G2Great
PLN Brian.
In reply to @btkissel, @brennanamy, @DrMaryHoward
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:23 PM EDT
I think it's a developmental learning curve--but we can begin in K to help them develop this ability.
#G2Great
mindi_r
Apr 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
#g2great
A7: For me, I have to remember to make time for reflection and to TEACH the kids how to be self-reflective. Not all know how.
DinaMWeiss
Apr 6 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A7:
#G2Great
Reflection built into every lesson and constantly modeled aloud for Ss.
JillDerosa
Apr 6 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Reflection is a part of everything we do in my classroom. We start with reflection, reflect along the way and end with reflection
#g2great
vrkimmel
Apr 6 @ 9:23 PM EDT
I love the use of micro-progressions. Challenges Ss to grow, but provides powerful support at the same time.
#G2Great
RebeccaMarsick
Apr 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A6:
@teachkate
microprogressions give ss so much ownership in deciding which feedback is best for them depending upon skill
#G2Great
pranikoff
Apr 6 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Three cheers for Tweetdeck!
@DrMaryHoward
taught
@suzrolander
and she taught
#PS234
. Thank you!
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
t’s a MUST HAVE Twitter tool I'm FAMOUS for my tweetdeck phone lessons & I just happen to have room in my training schedule ❤️
#G2Great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Wait a minute...what's a Tweetdeck! Teach us, Mary! :)
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
oops sorry I missed this. Do you use Tweetdeck. It’s a lifesaver! You have to see the
#G2great
tweets
In reply to @amy_jeff95
LitROCK_taylor
Apr 6 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A7 model reflection when I share my own writing life with my Ss
#G2Great
RebeccaMarsick
Apr 6 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A7: been having ss use screencasitfy for reflection on writing talk through process- helps ss who struggle w writing to reflect
#G2Great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Pam--have you ever read Rethinking Rubrics by Maja Wilson? That book was life-changing for me as an evaluator.
#G2Great
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A7: When I moved from rubrics to reflective work- WOW- the impact on morale, excitement, and actual work was mind blowing!
#g2great
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A7: Reflect with a growth mindset. What mistake did you learn the most from?
#G2Great
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A7:1 of my fav
@pmgmcgee
mantras"Reflection is the stickiest glue."2 me, this means it has a reg. role in the CR-def a "lead part"
#g2great
ShelfieTalk
Apr 6 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A7 Students can reflect on writing by identifying "What does this show about me as a writer?"
#g2great
ktkelly14
Apr 6 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A7 Reflection is necessary hard work & requires deep thinking. We must model this for Ss. sentence starters are helpful for some.
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A7 To maximize the “sticky” factor offer opportunities to reflect in varied ways to provide multiple perspectives.
#G2Great
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 9:25 PM EDT
She really means this
@amy_jeff95
#G2Great
@DrMaryHoward
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Let me know if you need help. I really do love to help people via phone get it up and running!
#G2Great
amy_jeff95
Apr 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
I have never heard of it but I will be investigating! Twitter= BEST pd
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 9:25 PM EDT
hahaha- thanks.
#G2Great
In reply to @pranikoff
joanneduncanjo
Apr 6 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A6-Ownership & Agency will grow when we give each student the feedback they need in the moment to move them forward.
#G2great
JillDerosa
Apr 6 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Thanks again for an amazing hour of learning. See you next week.
#g2great
laurenebrown19
Apr 6 @ 9:25 PM EDT
I see that it's an app, too! I'm in! So much brilliance!
#g2great
#ps234
In reply to @pranikoff, @DrMaryHoward, @suzrolander
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:25 PM EDT
I'm excited too!!!! I LOVE this community. It give me great energy to learn from a community of committed literacy folks.
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:23 PM EDT
.
@brennanamy
@DrMaryHoward
and I are so happy you are going to be a member of the
#G2Great
PLN Brian.
In reply to @btkissel, @brennanamy, @DrMaryHoward
barberchicago
Apr 6 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Great place to start! I love this.
#G2Great
ShelfieTalk
Apr 6 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A7 Students can reflect on writing by identifying "What does this show about me as a writer?"
#g2great
late4clss
Apr 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 I think Ss need to know that grades are indicators NOT the end all be all
#G2great
c_rejent
Apr 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A7 Reflection allows true ownership.
#G2Great
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Class goals, action plans, and reflection are great places to start- not only great modeling- it also builds strong community
#G2Great
In reply to @btkissel
ktkelly14
Apr 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Yes! All writers need authentic audiences. We have so much fun tweeting with authors and tweeting book reviews.
#G2Great
#CultureOfReaders
In reply to @suzrolander, @laurenebrown19
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
#G2Great
magic.
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:25 PM EDT
I'm excited too!!!! I LOVE this community. It give me great energy to learn from a community of committed literacy folks.
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:23 PM EDT
.
@brennanamy
@DrMaryHoward
and I are so happy you are going to be a member of the
#G2Great
PLN Brian.
In reply to @btkissel, @brennanamy, @DrMaryHoward
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Do you see
@laurenebrown19
why these tools can be such an incredible learning sphere? Why I wanted my peeps from
#PS234
here?
#G2Great
laurenebrown19
Apr 6 @ 9:25 PM EDT
I see that it's an app, too! I'm in! So much brilliance!
#g2great
#ps234
In reply to @pranikoff, @DrMaryHoward, @suzrolander
TeachWriteEDU
Apr 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Can I just say,
@pmgmcgee
, you are a genius? I’m learning so much!
#G2great
pmgmcgee
Apr 6 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A7: Reflect with a growth mindset. What mistake did you learn the most from?
#G2Great
mollienye72
Apr 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A7: Ss use
@seesaw
to take picture and voice record or notate reflections. They submit to me and I can listen/read + keep for notes
#G2great
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Yes- sometimes reflection is 30 seconds, sometimes much more in-depth... but so present in all we do.
#G2Great
In reply to @JillDerosa
KMreaders
Apr 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
#G2great
proactive & responsive language will support S reflection throughout the process. As a writer I am... I'm trying...for my readers.
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Q7
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
#G2GREAT
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A7 Create an invisible thread that weaves reflection into varied experiences to STRETCH your reflection potential.
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Final Words of Wisdom from
@pmgmcgee
she makes you think deep!
#G2Great
tammylani
Apr 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A7: Quick reflections by sts written on sticky notes collected over time.
#g2great
LRobbTeacher
Apr 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
So right, Mary! A guidepost term is negotiate. Listen to what S thinks. When we let Ss do the work, Ss gain independence.
#G2Great
In reply to @DrMaryHoward
pranikoff
Apr 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
That's so true. Self-Reflection is the key to taking ownership and reapplying strategies with independence.
@mindi_r
#G2Great
mindi_r
Apr 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
#g2great
A7: For me, I have to remember to make time for reflection and to TEACH the kids how to be self-reflective. Not all know how.
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Remember to grow your PLN here tonight keep the conversation going....
#g2great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
#G2Great
invites you to a challenge from
@pmgmcgee
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
I know
@LisaEickholdt
would appreciate
@pmgmcgee
words of wisdom. Yes Ss as mentors is a powerful way to stretch ownership.
#G2Great
sarah_scheldt
Apr 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
#G2great
this is a writer who takes risks! Stripping down your life for everyone to see is so powerful! Truly a window into her soul
MezaConnie
Apr 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Read my short essay featured in
https://t.co/RFSseWCw6o
https://t.co/nDIH0lCK8b
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
The app is harder to use but might work better on iPad than phone. It’s a MSUT HAVE!
#G2Great
In reply to @laurenebrown19, @pranikoff, @suzrolander
RebeccaMarsick
Apr 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A7:always think about purpose- if goal is reflection, doesn't have to be in writing esp 4 ss who struggle w writing
#G2Great
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
I have enjoyed watching students take ownership of this work when we move from provided to co-created to self- initiated
#g2great
@teachkate
In reply to @vrkimmel, @teachkate
vrkimmel
Apr 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A7 Again, mentor texts help Ss reflect, "What did I try that I saw? What else can I try? Other mentors? Diff wrtng moves?"
#G2Great
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Amen for these words of wisdom
@pmgmcgee
! :) Thanks for sharing your wisdom tonight.
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Final Words of Wisdom from
@pmgmcgee
she makes you think deep!
#G2Great
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
NO NO NO it can't be over! How is this possible! Fastest hour of my week! Thank you
#G2Great
team!
JillDerosa
Apr 6 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Thanks again for an amazing hour of learning. See you next week.
#g2great
late4clss
Apr 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A7 Using post assessments and comparing pervious work promotes encouragement as well as positive reflection
#G2great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
#g2Great
KMreaders
Apr 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
#G2great
proactive & responsive language will support S reflection throughout the process. As a writer I am... I'm trying...for my readers.
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Q7
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
#G2great
is honored to welcome guest host Ralph Fletcher next week to bring JOY WRITE to life in our classrooms. Please join us!
PamKou
Apr 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
WHAT ELSE? - such a powerful phrase to reflect on and open pathways to seeing multiple ways to do the "work."
#G2Great
In reply to @vrkimmel
mindi_r
Apr 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
#g2great
My writers used
@amylvpoemfarm
’s Writing the Rainbow as a mentor text this week. They see themselves as poets.
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
We are so fortunate to have had
@pmgmcgee
here on
#G2Great
@brennanamy
@DrMaryHoward
btkissel
Apr 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Amen for these words of wisdom
@pmgmcgee
! :) Thanks for sharing your wisdom tonight.
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Final Words of Wisdom from
@pmgmcgee
she makes you think deep!
#G2Great
suzrolander
Apr 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
I love this
@DrMaryHoward
"Stretch your reflection potential!"
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A7 Create an invisible thread that weaves reflection into varied experiences to STRETCH your reflection potential.
#G2Great
DrMaryHoward
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Not only is Ralph Fletcher our guest next week but his new book is now available and it ROCKS!
#G2Great
hayhurst3
- Moderator
Apr 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Let's all give a
#G2Great
ty to
@pmgmcgee
for inspiring us all to think about feedback we give to young writers.
@brennanamy
@DrMaryHoward