#IOLchat Archive
#IOLchat meets Wednesdays at 12PM ET to discuss trends and issues in online education.
Wednesday August 31, 2016
12:00 PM EDT
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
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! Who is joining in today?
RedBrigade_MUFC
Aug 31 @ 12:01 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
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jernstberger
Aug 31 @ 12:01 PM EDT
I am!
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:02 PM EDT
@jernstberger
Hi Jon! Thanks for joining in. :)
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:02 PM EDT
@RedBrigade_MUFC
Welcome to
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!
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:05 PM EDT
This week's topic is designed to make sure we avoid overstuffing online courses w/materials ... Q1 Coming up!
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clowningar
Aug 31 @ 12:06 PM EDT
Austin, Tx here I'm a
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developer
https://t.co/sKO6lrAtC9
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:07 PM EDT
@clowningar
Hi Michael! Welcome back. :)
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:08 PM EDT
Q1) Are there components of online courses that seem uneccessary? When might 'less' be 'more?'
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clowningar
Aug 31 @ 12:10 PM EDT
A1, for me it depends on the course ie Language may have more resources & tools
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I have no hard fast rule yet
jernstberger
Aug 31 @ 12:11 PM EDT
A1
@CenterOnlineEd
I'd say less is more when you know that your students are looking for depth.
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:12 PM EDT
@clowningar
I think that's an interesting point - having "rules" about amount of content may be inappropriate. Better case by case.
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:13 PM EDT
@jernstberger
Absolutely - amount of content could also be a depth vs. breadth question.
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:13 PM EDT
A1) I tend to get stuck in an "every module must have x,y,z" structure, even if it's not completely necessary every week
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definatelylearn
Aug 31 @ 12:14 PM EDT
We believe that Online Education should be different from F2F module. Simplicity is the key
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:14 PM EDT
@definatelylearn
Welcome to the chat! Simplicity is a good principle to follow - agreed. Start w/basics and build from there.
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jernstberger
Aug 31 @ 12:14 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
A deviation might be really great for engaging students! Great idea!
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:16 PM EDT
@jernstberger
The consistency is helpful, but can get monotonous - at least for me it does, imagine so for students, too.
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:17 PM EDT
A1) In an online course it's also easy to keep adding reading materials and links. My students get overwhelmed w/ too many ...
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definatelylearn
Aug 31 @ 12:18 PM EDT
Agreed and focus should go deep on abilities apart from Content because Technology can help track the growth
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jernstberger
Aug 31 @ 12:19 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
I regularly cull links and check the ones I keep to see if they're obsolete.
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:19 PM EDT
@definatelylearn
That's an important part of the conversation I think -start w/ objectives (abilities, skills), then select content
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clowningar
Aug 31 @ 12:19 PM EDT
A1 I curate & dev for 800+ courses so my problem is abundance but where am I lacking
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:19 PM EDT
Great reminder!
#OnlineTeaching
RT
@jernstberger
I regularly cull links and check the ones I keep to see if they're obsolete.
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:20 PM EDT
@clowningar
I can't even imagine - that's a lot of courses to maintain! My max in the past was 35, which were overwhelming.
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:23 PM EDT
A1) cont. I try to clarify to students when there are a lot of reading/links - select a few; I've provided a whole collection
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clowningar
Aug 31 @ 12:23 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
well this is a nonpayed position so hard to get help :(
https://t.co/MHQtCiIZw4
? Getting 8-10stars from Ss
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definatelylearn
Aug 31 @ 12:24 PM EDT
Learning analytics Algo should do that for the Educators in selection of content n understanding the intelligence.
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:25 PM EDT
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Ideas about analytics, adaptive learning, and content selection...
https://t.co/QtXHDGs6L8
definatelylearn
Aug 31 @ 12:24 PM EDT
Learning analytics Algo should do that for the Educators in selection of content n understanding the intelligence.
@CenterOnlineEd
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:26 PM EDT
Q2) How often do you review learning objectives - and (re)map to course materials and assessments?
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clowningar
Aug 31 @ 12:27 PM EDT
A1 I'm now opening deaf learners w/CC lectures this past week, so no telling what they want
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definatelylearn
Aug 31 @ 12:28 PM EDT
Interestingly we are working on it.
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https://t.co/YB6BBdbZbu
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:25 PM EDT
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Ideas about analytics, adaptive learning, and content selection...
https://t.co/QtXHDGs6L8
definatelylearn
Aug 31 @ 12:24 PM EDT
Learning analytics Algo should do that for the Educators in selection of content n understanding the intelligence.
@CenterOnlineEd
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:29 PM EDT
@clowningar
That's an incredible undertaking! And definitely a need where accessibility and universal design are concerned.
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clowningar
Aug 31 @ 12:31 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
this week or next going to TX School for deaf and talking to them about accessibility & MOOC
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jernstberger
Aug 31 @ 12:31 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
A2) We're going through a gen ed reform. Lots of learning objective reviews happening.
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:32 PM EDT
@jernstberger
I bet so! Sounds like the potential for a major overhaul.
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jernstberger
Aug 31 @ 12:33 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
The potential for positive overhaul is real but people resist change.
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clowningar
Aug 31 @ 12:34 PM EDT
A2 I'm working on mobile edu, going to tidepools studying biology this
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talk explains it
https://t.co/oBq2BBHqHF
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:34 PM EDT
@jernstberger
Indeed. And it can be a real challenge to make big changes that impact a lot of courses. Esp. if there's bureaucracy.
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:35 PM EDT
@clowningar
All the best with your
#SXSW
panel picker idea! Am hoping to present there as well. :)
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clowningar
Aug 31 @ 12:37 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
keep me in the loop when you do
#SXSWPanelPicker
I'll vote for you I'm up for
#CES
as well
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#innovation
definatelylearn
Aug 31 @ 12:37 PM EDT
A leapfrog product is needed that can overcome Policies that can promote independence for educators
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@jernstberger
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:38 PM EDT
Q3) What are your best tips for de-cluttering an online class? For instructors and designers.
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clowningar
Aug 31 @ 12:38 PM EDT
@definatelylearn
@CenterOnlineEd
@jernstberger
disruption from outside will happen regardless of gatekeepers
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:39 PM EDT
@definatelylearn
@jernstberger
Autonomy for professors is certainly a current topic, especially in
#OnlineEd
-how much flex exists?
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:40 PM EDT
Q3 cont) Are there steps we can take in the original design of a new course to avoid "overstuffing" w/content and assignments?
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jernstberger
Aug 31 @ 12:41 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
A3) I'm sure we can establish guidelines (of some sort) but we don't do it in trad. courses.
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clowningar
Aug 31 @ 12:41 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
I believe Prof/Ts will be in creative spaces & getting 90% tuition my SXSW talk covers it
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:42 PM EDT
@jernstberger
Interesting point ... do traditional courses get cluttered, too?
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clowningar
Aug 31 @ 12:44 PM EDT
A3 "Rate Ur Prof", keeps Ps & Ts from too much rigor & reading, or they don't get Ss enrolling
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may have app like that
jernstberger
Aug 31 @ 12:44 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
Probably but those are the classes I often worked hardest at.
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definatelylearn
Aug 31 @ 12:45 PM EDT
Educators just need a tech assistant ;)
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https://t.co/zun2R9KHEa
CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:39 PM EDT
@definatelylearn
@jernstberger
Autonomy for professors is certainly a current topic, especially in
#OnlineEd
-how much flex exists?
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:46 PM EDT
@jernstberger
They may also be easier to "update" ;)
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jernstberger
Aug 31 @ 12:46 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
I think they're easier to keep fresh. I'm different every time I'm in the room.
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:48 PM EDT
@clowningar
Intruiging point here - motivation, incentive etc. to add/not add content, kinds of content - not just abt. objectives
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:51 PM EDT
Coming up on the end of the chat hour …
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clowningar
Aug 31 @ 12:51 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
my program is self study, Ss let me know needs. Some Ss are earning Univ credit so it's important 2 get right
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:51 PM EDT
Thanks to
@jernstberger
,
@definatelylearn
and
@clowningar
for great contributions to today's topic!
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jernstberger
Aug 31 @ 12:52 PM EDT
@CenterOnlineEd
Thanks for facilitating!
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:52 PM EDT
@clowningar
Absolutely! Getting academic credit can be a tricky process.
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definatelylearn
Aug 31 @ 12:52 PM EDT
Also Shared economy can play a greater role.
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@clowningar
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CenterOnlineEd
- Moderator
Aug 31 @ 12:52 PM EDT
@jernstberger
My pleasure, Jon! Thanks for your help. :)
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