#wyoedchat Archive
#wyoedchat is a great way for Wyoming educators to share teaching strategies, educational resources, and more.
Sunday February 28, 2016
10:00 PM EST
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2nd grade teacher, Torrington, WY. Good evening all.
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University of Wyoming student.
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Welcome sir, glad u r in the house
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Tech Integration in Billings, Shelly! Hi
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Nick Gallagher Elementary principal Cody, WY
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Jordan. SS/tech at Girls School, Sheridan
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Nice to have u joining us glad to have u joining the best profession
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Welcome sir. Glad u r here
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Rachel Crawford SPED T in Cheyenne! Howdy tweeps!
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just starting, stop by Why watch the
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good evening
Kam Joining from across the border at Hardin Middle School
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Welcome. Always good to have r MT neighbors
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University of Wyoming student, Morgan Sanders.
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Welcome Glad u dropped in
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it's the coolest place to be on a Sunday night!
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Thanks for joining us for
Q’s coming from
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Welcome sir. Always good to have PArk 6 represented in house
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Steve, 7-12 principal, Hanna, WY.
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Welcome. is glad u r here
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Wayne/Casper/K-5 principal. Glad to be with you all tonight.
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Principal Good Evening everyone!
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Hello from Riverton Middle School.
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Please introduce yourself to group, name, location and subject/role! Lurkers r welcome & soon 2 b sharing.
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Special shoutout to David Langford, for joining n challenging 2nt. Lets give him a Wyoming welcome.
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Please RT questions so all R non WYO teachers can join in.
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We will use same format of Q1 A1 Q2 A2.
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Welcome sir. Great topic tonight
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Sorry to compete with the Oscars.
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Thanks am busy grading papers and watching Oscars but will try to remain focused in !!
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Rachel MS LA teacher WYVA
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Geri Fitzgerald, AdvancED Laramie
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James Kapptie, Dir Of Tech from Wonderful Cody WY
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Q1. How is it going? from
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Excited to see some students from UW tonight! Welcome Pokes.
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This is way better than the Oscars
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Pete Hamilton High School Principal Montana
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I am not an Oscars fan anyway. :)
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Darin. Inst. Coach from Rock Springs
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Rachel LA MS teacher for WYVA
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Sarah. 5th from Cheyenne. Hi!
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Welcome Kim! Kim was a S in a building where I taught. I am old.
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Sorry I am late Lisa Smith, District Tech IF Cody, Wyoming
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Welcome and glad u r here
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A1: Fabulous. Lots of stress, but lots of great things happening too! Change is a comin' our way. Glad I have my bff
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Welcome David! We are good at - and Glad you are joining us!
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A1. Prepping for the week ahead!
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Howdy y'all
Ed Olson
Tech Ed, Jr & Sr High - Cheyenne
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A1. It is going well for the Park 6 tech team.
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Welcome sir, glad u dropped in
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Lots of Rachels here tonight. Of course Rachels are the coolest...
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A1: All days with students are great
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A1: Got the Sunday night T feeling!
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Hello David. So glad you are joining us tonight!
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A1: It's that time of year...stressed. Excited about new possibilities around the corner though. And we have Starbase this month!
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Going well. Excited to get into PAWS season.
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a1) going how we choose to make it. Find when attitude is right 'drama' no big thing. When att is wrong-free gift wrapped wrong.
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A1: Everything is fantastic, lots to look forward to
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A1 John, Principal, Riverton High. We are the definition of awesomeness in education in FCSD25, K-12
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Flashing back to the "old" days some in here might not know who they r
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Coming in late. Leanna , first grade from Basin
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Jenny first grade, Cody WY
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Love being in the Rachel club!!
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Q2. How do you know? (In reference to Q1)
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And of course you are the leader of the pack.
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Craig Williams 4th grade Cheyenne
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That makes 3 from FCSD25! Where is Dallas? https://t.co/AGA5jC3DCX
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A1 John, Principal, Riverton High. We are the definition of awesomeness in education in FCSD25, K-12
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Welcome and glad u r here in the house
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A2: Aside from my spidey sense and large smile?
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A2: One should never be afraid to ask…..sometimes have to cut through the standard response but just ask
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A1- doing great, A2- kids are happy, life is good, feel like that is proof enough! Lol
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A1: Ann, tech integration specialist from Billings - sorry to be late! Just returned from - AMAZING!
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A2: My face tells me-it looks a little tired, but there is still a smile.
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A2: Daily reflection and taking stock of who/where I am
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diggin deep, diggin deep.
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A2. We try to survey and work with teams in each building to monitor if we are addressing needs.
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A2 - I'm smiling when I show up at school every day. Great to greet the eager learners as they show up.
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Welcome sir, glad u snuck in addressing improvement and how do we know w
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A2 Early learning center, Graduation Matters group,... K-12 "synergy" & 3 on
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A2:because I am living in the now and that is where all good things reside
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Kelly Merager, elementary principal, Cody, WY
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A2: I know because I amassed a HUGE collection of resources I haven't even begun to sort through yet! https://t.co/T3L1mWIFn1
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a2) Habit 1-Be proactive, I get to to choose my weather every day.
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A1 Doing well, checking off tasks, planning out future projects, and cruisin'
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Welcome sir. Great break from your "other" work is glad u r here
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A2 Vibe in the buildings is good. Teachers and kids don't seem too stressed.
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Q3 Do you have any data to support your observation?
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Crista Anderson, PK-8 Principal from Dixon, Montana. (Looking forward to the chat!)
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Sorry I'm late to . Was reading to my kiddo. Greg, Parent, Buffalo, WY
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A2 Mtg last week confirmed progress via peer comments in college committee & dean's letter
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A2 mosaic observations from our iphone - sent right to teacher. love the feedback!
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Sorry, running a little late. A1 & A2 Things are going well and looking forward to some good weeks ahead! Life is good!
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I understand that while this place is sacred, an equally sacred place is within me. Read > SKY POND https://t.co/6H7qAS9jGP
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A3 - No data for counted smiles but I hear that 93% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
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A3 just anecdotal data from spending time in the classrooms-fairly informal data but important none the less.
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A3: No data. Purely anecdotal.
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Welcome. is glad u r here
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a3) It is survey and testing season, the data will tell lots of stories but it won't define how I am doing. I get to define that.
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Parent night this week! multiplying fractions, and PBL presentations on regions/ecosystems on Friday! https://t.co/pEZ1jz6bYv
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Thanks for the reminder. Glad to be here.
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Very exciting week ahead.
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What is Quality in Education? How do you know if you have it in relation to what?
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A3. Spring fever for Ss already... So lots of energy to drive our train! No real data to support that tho.
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I told u they would be challenging Q's from
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A1: Things are good! Busy, not completely healthy... but way more positives than negatives right now.
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A3 We have had so much going on the last three yrs but I feel confident that this yr we will start to see HUGE improvement
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A3: Not only data, but 6 weeks worth of Tier 2 data and testing and meetings to prove I'm good.
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A3: Never underestimate the power of anecdotal data :-)
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A3 My CV is running list of research project progress & advising/mentoring Ss in grad prgm. Combined with other metrics, yes.
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That life and school are going well???
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A3: it's all informal data 😜
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I was thinking the same thing! Wine and the number of times a week I use the hot tub!
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Q4 What is the greatest opportunity facing the system you manage?
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Things are well and not well. I'm behind on almost my entire "to-do" list.
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A3.1 We also start our S focus group mtgs tomorrow for Student Voice surveys. Ss tell us how we are doing
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Education that keeps improving and adapting...IMHO. The second part, not sure
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: rethinking the status quo
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Life is lived in , not necessarily in numbers. "Sweetie, you get a 3 for making dinner tonight" https://t.co/yBfZSoCsyz
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A4: When you start with little to nothing, it's really easy to see improvement. We can look at it as problem or opportunity!
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Ahh, well my heart is still a beatin' and I'm still a still a kicken' guess that's a sign right?
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A4: Reaching out to parents and families is the greatest possibilities.
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a4) Will we choose to do the hard work to go from great to greater. If we are coasting we are going downhill.
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Anecdotal data can be measured.
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Q3 Love the charts/graphs Classroom Mosaic creates. Reminds me Ts I need to visit.
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A4 Maximizing funding for starters
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A4- change in what we have always done, focus on engagement
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A4 Our people. Our Ts & staff in it together & striving to improve. RHS has a great growth mindset & desire to improve
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A4 The ability to help young people grow in their professional careers
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A4 Turning all preservice teachers into makers
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A4 currently-Hopefully will refill a teaching position. Hiring new folks is always a great opportunity.
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Yes! I'm having a great year of growth! Feeling challenged in such a good way.
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But does it become a hoop jumping or is it useful? How?
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I made a 1 dinner.. burnt the steaks on the grill... sad.. but doesn't mean I'm always a 1 as a cook
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A4: With available tech, our world gets smaller each day. We can reach out to nearly every soul in the planet.
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A4) For me, in a non-school setting, I'm learning to "teach" adults who don't really want to learn.
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A4: inconsistency, a developing vision, a developing goal
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A4. Lots of great opportunities. Continued work with and . Ss growth is presenting new opportunities too
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Problem + Opportunity = Probletunity
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When do you suppose we "unlearn" loving to learn? https://t.co/TTFI0SCFDQ
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A4) For me, in a non-school setting, I'm learning to "teach" adults who don't really want to learn.
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A4: The greatest opportunity facing system I manage is fact we are bringing fiber to our rural school. Access + Opportunity.
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a4) instilling more energy, passion and enthusiasm into all that we do.Lots of investment in sending people to RCA=implementation
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A4 Education for All does it right. Our system needs to do more lessons & of course for all
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A4 - Embracing the gifts of all of our students...maximizing ways to engage students!
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A4.1) which, in turn, helps me learn better, actually. I hope, anyway. Seems to.
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Watch on the . No failures there! https://t.co/ErFneWABqC
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I made a 1 dinner.. burnt the steaks on the grill... sad.. but doesn't mean I'm always a 1 as a cook
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awesome! https://t.co/0i9ySmhc3z
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A4: The greatest opportunity facing system I manage is fact we are bringing fiber to our rural school. Access + Opportunity.
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Sorry everyone - family calls tonight - was gone all week for - have a great
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Discouragement from mean and negative peeps brings me down!! https://t.co/VMsQUGDEjj
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When do you suppose we "unlearn" loving to learn? https://t.co/TTFI0SCFDQ
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A4) For me, in a non-school setting, I'm learning to "teach" adults who don't really want to learn.
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I think we start to shut down R learning when the people teaching us don't think what we already know is any good.
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It is going to make SUCH a huge difference. We are currently running on one T1 residential line.
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Good point! It's so important to honor what learners bring to the table!
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We have lots of Problatunites in education
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Or the way we learned it is wrong. I can honestly see why so many parents struggle with "the new ____."
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As teachers that's all we want...but then we often don't allow our Ss the same courtesy :-( https://t.co/spIrzIUUVk
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Good point! It's so important to honor what learners bring to the table!
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I can't guarantee easy, but it'll definitely be fun and be an adventure!
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Q5 What is your theory of improvement?
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I made a huge mistake on this last week. I watched someone completely shut down as I was talking. Bad medicine.
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uh oh oscars getting good... loved "The Big Short"
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Love of Learning is always there. We can only cover it up bad systems. Change the system and you change the behavior.
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Oh no. How did you handle it?
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Very true but if we can use probletunities to improve and learn then it is all good. https://t.co/SfOKLBLfCa
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We have lots of Problatunites in education
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A5: In order to improve, I feel that I need to be correctable. I am so looking forward to input.
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A5 "be your best to do your best"
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A5 - My theory of improvement is continuous improvement.
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a5) Focus, commit, work, work, work, celebrate effort. Journey not destination.
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A5: Get better every day.
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A5: ummm...bc I want to make the world a better place.
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A5: To improve, we need to know that what we knew is not necessarily what we should have known; it's hard to know that. You know?
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A5--Yes, Continuous Improvement...not once every five years...... https://t.co/FLlUCORVNM
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A5 - My theory of improvement is continuous improvement.
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A5 constantly looking at what I am doing and how I can be doing it better.
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A5: A sincere desire to help and serve others is a sure road to improving ourselves.
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I like this. I need to be correctable. Not just corrected. https://t.co/XTjYfhm5rz
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A5: In order to improve, I feel that I need to be correctable. I am so looking forward to input.
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A5: My theory of improvement is to prevent. plan, and prepare instead of react. Systems thinking...Always think of end user
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A5-always ask questions, self reflect, and keep changing as the need presents! No laminated lesson plans for me!
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First I shut up. Then made comments about "I'm sure it will be okay". Then changed subject & became the learner.
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Q5 Assess, identify (need), reflect, organize, action, reflect, assess, analyze...
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A5: My theory: work hard, be prepared, work harder and don't give up.
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A4, A5 opportunity to include students, like it or not need to go through proper channels, offer solutions not just vent
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a5) also remember your Why. When you get bogged in the what and how people (self even) can lose focus and commitment.
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A5. Fail fast, fail forward and keep building on what s working.Ask questions...be brave...measure it & Bhumble That's my theory
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A5: Setting aside fear of failure so that I am willing to take risks to find a better way
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A5: Problem, adjust, solution repeat
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Shutting up is almost always the hardest part ;-) Most of us listen to respond, not just to HEAR. https://t.co/floqCAq0BZ
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First I shut up. Then made comments about "I'm sure it will be okay". Then changed subject & became the learner.
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But I still didn't actually resolve the initial problem. Yet.
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Working hard solves lots of problems
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Sometimes we educators are the least open to receiving improvement feedback. Why is that do you imagine?
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Fail forward. stuck that in my head last year. https://t.co/sS7wAyA7Oc
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A5. Fail fast, fail forward and keep building on what s working.Ask questions...be brave...measure it & Bhumble That's my theory
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A5 To plan ahead & be purposeful. A checklist of success. Also, culture eats strategy for breakfast. Always start w culture.
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A5: Another part of my improvement philosophy is that we need to support one another. Connect, communicate, share to learn.
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Is there still hope to mend fences??
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Someone watched Chris Weber :) https://t.co/o9nvdZQA1b
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A5 To plan ahead & be purposeful. A checklist of success. Also, culture eats strategy for breakfast. Always start w culture.
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So true...just take the leap
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If you figure it out write the book. It is such a great question. https://t.co/ciqxEsikrE
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Sometimes we educators are the least open to receiving improvement feedback. Why is that do you imagine?
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Exactly! https://t.co/if6CEwRKkF
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A5: Setting aside fear of failure so that I am willing to take risks to find a better way
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Yes, thank you Crista https://t.co/SUy7aaq4Tl
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A5: Another part of my improvement philosophy is that we need to support one another. Connect, communicate, share to learn.
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A5. Always improving myself,my Ss and family
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It's not enough to put in your best effort or work hard, you have to know what to do and then put in your best effort.
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Enjoying y'alls chat tonight :)
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Q6 Do you understand the variability in the system and what it is trying to tell you?
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Partly, we blame our product (student scores) on other factors...laziness, poor home life, previous teachers, etc
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not sure if that is a theory tho! ;)
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Maybe. But now the conversation has another layer that has to happen first. Was 1 step fwd, 2 back.
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I absolutely agree, but how often do we actually get true feedback? Do we only count our tri-yearly eval? https://t.co/AKZDWehJfV
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Sometimes we educators are the least open to receiving improvement feedback. Why is that do you imagine?
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will appreciate this for sure. https://t.co/qQ9iosmBEp
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It's not enough to put in your best effort or work hard, you have to know what to do and then put in your best effort.
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A6: Nope. That's why I'm happy... :-)
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He took that one from Peter Drucker
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I use the analogy of a kitchen. Teachers get lots of visitors traipsing through their kitchen.
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A6. Somewhat but not as well as need to. Hard to define. would gladly take any strategies
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A6: The variability across our systems often tell us when we need to calibrate to the vision and goals, reset...
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We too often seek validation over true feedback, do we not? https://t.co/48AJfafoaz
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I absolutely agree, but how often do we actually get true feedback? Do we only count our tri-yearly eval? https://t.co/AKZDWehJfV
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Sometimes we educators are the least open to receiving improvement feedback. Why is that do you imagine?
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Told you this would push r brains in ...Thanks
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A6: Variability in a system...aka the world of a middle school assistant principal.
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we seem to look for answers we want
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This is like practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect!
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Glad I am not the only one who did not understand.
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The only true feedback for improvement comes from the students.
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A6: I understand the variability in the system and what it is trying to tell me
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There's no variability. Only doing it my way or wrong. *big wink*
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That is so true! We hear what we want to hear and seem to ignore what we don't... just like our students!
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I think we need to communicate with all stakeholders about what is best for best learning to occur
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A6 No "perfect" measurement tool, so system variability & cause/effect often in "eyes of the beholder."
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and easy ones at that... in a single protein shake, so to speak.
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True enough. We also rarely look at or modify our processes. (Inputs), yet we expect different outputs. https://t.co/Pa6JmRt0vT
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Partly, we blame our product (student scores) on other factors...laziness, poor home life, previous teachers, etc
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So so true Darin
https://t.co/uXIclc8U7I
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We too often seek validation over true feedback, do we not? https://t.co/48AJfafoaz
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I absolutely agree, but how often do we actually get true feedback? Do we only count our tri-yearly eval? https://t.co/AKZDWehJfV
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Sometimes we educators are the least open to receiving improvement feedback. Why is that do you imagine?
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WHat is it trying to say?
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Hey y'all! I'm an 8th gr US history T in ATL, Ga. I'd love to know y'alls opinions: hardest part of teaching in WY & best? TY!
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Isn't that the definition of insanity
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Validation feels so good!
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In old computer programming it's GIGO. Garbage in. Garbage out. https://t.co/uTZmcM2EXP
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True enough. We also rarely look at or modify our processes. (Inputs), yet we expect different outputs. https://t.co/Pa6JmRt0vT
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Partly, we blame our product (student scores) on other factors...laziness, poor home life, previous teachers, etc
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Eduycators do not get near enough quality feedback, IMHO
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Q7 Do you understand your job is improvement?
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What does "quality feedback" look like? https://t.co/nCeZYeJ5xE
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Eduycators do not get near enough quality feedback, IMHO
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I would agree. Moving beyond superficial comments and into growth is a challenge, but worth it. https://t.co/Wdc5OlYja7
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Eduycators do not get near enough quality feedback, IMHO
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Right *and* validated! Thanks! heheh
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A7: Absolutely! What I don't always know is how to measure it objectively.
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This is going on the wall of the staff lounge tomorrow! https://t.co/rNCrkelmGo
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Q7 Do you understand your job is improvement?
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Hence "Likes" and "Favorites" etc. eh?
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A7: I love this Q! Educators are constantly improving Ss as well as themselves! Awesome=)
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A6 to be sure that we don't add to the var. in a way that negatively impacts student learning or simply doesn't help improve it.
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I think "quality feedback" is specific and prescriptive, with modeling and examples provided.
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A7 Continuously improving self, courses for ugrad Ss, courses for grad Ss, program, & always the field of
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A7: Knowing and truly understanding are not always in the same room...
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Meaningful coaching on how best to set up effective learning environments. (shameless plug 4 eleot)
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A5 don't be afraid to take criticism and learn from it.
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A7- of course, and always seeking ways to improve!
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a7) I would argue my job is raising the hope of & enhancing life future generations (yes, improvemnet).But about people not data.
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A7 Yes...if we are not growing and learning, than replace us.
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A7: If we do not improve, neither will the future. Our improvement make the world what it is in & beyond the classroom
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A7 yes, would love to have PLC's or groups to study and improve instead of constantly going over data
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A7 Yes. Now more than ever. We did root cause analysis & set direction for school. Had to ask why a lot. Have to improve
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Too bad people are so much harder to measure than data!
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A7: always ongoing-keep eye on the goal
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A7 yes-we must have a sense of urgency but improvement takes time
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A7 Educators are "change agents" - we are always and our students are too! condition
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A7: YES! That is why I am an educator. I consider so much of edu an action research project. Continuous growth is ultimate goal.
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I try to ask for feedback on my feedback: "Was that helpful?" I may ask.
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So true... Knowing and compliance fit together there
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So true... Knowing and compliance fit together there
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Absolutely, improving myself, coaching Ts to improve, and guiding the school to improve for our Ss and Ts
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A research project with some pretty darn high and worthy stakes! https://t.co/LNTveom1yq
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A7: YES! That is why I am an educator. I consider so much of edu an action research project. Continuous growth is ultimate goal.
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I think it's a good thing, actually. https://t.co/MsFwF80nwA
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Too bad people are so much harder to measure than data!
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this is very important! The key to education is to be open to change!
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Much success we never will see for years to come but we have to trust. Quality in=quality out in time. https://t.co/lC6mlbRpXv
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Too bad people are so much harder to measure than data!
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A7: from the minute I stepped foot into my T ed program i knew. R job is constant improvement esp. in techEd constant evolution
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I agree. Whats r focus, numbers or kids?
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A7 a great tool for improvement is the National Board process.
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Have to ask "Why" a lot and NOT be afraid to answer it truthfully. https://t.co/dqqDfcQSgQ
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A7 Yes. Now more than ever. We did root cause analysis & set direction for school. Had to ask why a lot. Have to improve
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Tomorrow is leap day...do something that takes education thinking forawrd tomorrow and share it.
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Is that so much to ask!?! :-D
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A7.1 Leaders need to create the culture to allow the structure of PLCs to operate efficiently & correctly
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I wonder how much time people might spend looking at the items that got no/few likes?
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A7 absolutely every area every day!!
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Tomorrow is leap day...do something that takes education thinking forward tomorrow and share it.
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Shameless plug for goes here! May 6-7 in Green River, WY.
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A7: Somewhere Carol Dweck is smiling :)
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A7.2 if you as a teacher or administrator and u don't comprehend this fact, you are in the wrong profession...simple
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This is something that I have learned in my math courses! Practice the homework the way you take the test!
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First Student Voice focus group is tomorrow for RHS!
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And it takes the village. https://t.co/fTla1v9a3c
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a7) I would argue my job is raising the hope of & enhancing life future generations (yes, improvemnet).But about people not data.
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Special YEEEEHawww and Thank You to
for leading a thought invoking conversation.
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Are they mutually exclusive?
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Does improvement mean 7th graders in 2016 "know" more than 7th graders in 1996? Where would that stop?
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something that I love is how valuable the education is in Wyoming. If you stay in Wyoming, you will not regret it.
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with our own as a keynote! Also and !!
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Speaking of improvements and shameless plugs, don't forget about the GAFE Summit this June in Riverton. https://t.co/8tlNrrV9LV
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Hard to say if they know "more," but they sure know "different!" The world has changed a lot in 10 years! https://t.co/8Xx6OdcQro
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Does improvement mean 7th graders in 2016 "know" more than 7th graders in 1996? Where would that stop?
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I would suggest most truly understand it. They just differ on how measured. Those who don't need to get off bus.
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Thanks for a great conversation and questions that ask us to reflect. Have a good week!
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Be awesome and change the world gang! ers have a great week
U all ROCK
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Thank you & for moderating. Have a great week everyone!
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exactly! If you fight it, you will just fall behind! Staying up with tech will better help you teach your students.
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not necessarily, but purpose of looking at data looks for improvement of #'s vs. the whole child at times
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It went by so fast! Thank you https://t.co/GyLvfFcggj
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Special YEEEEHawww and Thank You to
for leading a thought invoking conversation.
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The WDE is offering free registration to the first 135 Wyoming Educators that sign up for the GAFE summit!
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I like that question. Going to have to chew on it.
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Sure has. And it is still the same. Thanks for convo tonight.
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Thank you and great chat=)
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I think that every generation is different. We experience different events, so this is not a fair statement.
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Nicely done, as always . See you later
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Cool - thanks! You accept us out-of-staters as presenters??
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Be runners this week. Share optimism, go extra mile, & lead others there so they can lead their students.
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Thank you all and see you at the conference.
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Well so much for that idea then ;-)
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Thanks, all! I'm proud of my Wyoming roots!
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I look forward to learning what you come up with. g'night.
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thanks for inspiring us to do better!
