#HipHopEd Chat is a weekly cyber cypher (chat) where stakeholders within Hip-Hop and Education come together to discuss issues that impact the youth and adults within our local, national and global communities. #HipHopEd Chat is a virtual form of professional development for Educators, workshop for Parents and other Adults and a brainstorming session of Hip-Hop practitioners. Our #HipHopEd chats are every Tuesday from 9-10 EST. on Twitter.
@LilTunechi was spot on in reaching the New Generation by having XXXtentacion on his first musical track on the album #DontCry#HipHopEd...would we know to X's impact & connection to the youngins?
From a school counseling perspective, “Tha Carter V” can be used to destigmatize/open conversations with students around suicide and issues of mental health #HipHopEd
#ThaCarterV is a musical bridge within generations of Hip-Hop musically. This is an opportunity to engage younger audiences and reflect on a voice from your youth as a millennial educator #HipHopEd
#Dedicate has intricate way of highlighting #culture as dynamic, not static. Wayne influenced the culture, while being influenced by the culture... hip hop as ever-evolving #carterV#HipHopEd
Especially because the issues that he discusses struggling with took place when he was a kid- it isn't presented as some obscure problem grown ups deal with! #HipHopEd
#ThaCarterV embodies different flows from lil Wayne that show a respect for his various audiences. Do we do the same as educators with our delivery and content? #HipHopEd
When I first talked about music with my students this year, X's influence is unmistakable, including him on the album taps into that youth market #HipHopEd
@gotomssams pointed out lil Wayne's continued regard for Jay-Z by having his mother speak on #ThaCarterV similar to "The Black Album and "4:44" #HipHopEd
Young folks are fired up about Tha Carter V. Educators must compartmentalize their judgments about the album in order to use it as a tool for teaching and learning. #HipHopEd#CarterV
This was one of the first things I thought when the album dropped. It's been so long since Wayne was mainstream that young kids aren't as familiar with him. The X feature bridges that age gap a little bit. #HipHopEd
When I first talked about music with my students this year, X's influence is unmistakable, including him on the album taps into that youth market #HipHopEd
Wayne was def in his lyrical pocket on this project...proud of @LilTunechi for flexing his literary & poetical muscles on the #CarterV#HipHopEd....#Nola representing the delta, bayou, reservoir of African linguistic traditions in USA but also the complexity of our vernacular
#CarterV starting with the intro from his mother reminds me of the ways in which familial relations are often highlighted within hip-hop, giving way to the possibility of discussions on Black masculinity and vulnerability #HipHopEd
@LilTunechi@NICKIMINAJ "Dark Side of the Moon" is a powerful song about love that may never be fully fulfilled. Reminded me of Marvin and Tammy #HipHopEd
Fascinating how Wayne combined current flows, old school lyricism & auto-tuned tracks. He recognized how the culture has shifted since his last release #HipHopEd#CarterV
Educators must do better in how they play to their audience instead of losing half the crowd because they are unwilling to show that respect. A wider audience means a greater return & it's the same in the classroom #HipHopEd
#ThaCarterV embodies different flows from lil Wayne that show a respect for his various audiences. Do we do the same as educators with our delivery and content? #HipHopEd
Cesar from San Diego here. Cohost of the @EdGuessPodcast . My nephew told me he’d refund my money if I didn’t like this album. There’s a lot to unpack here. Sonically it’s laced tight. Content leaves me with questions.
School Counselors cause explore the Carter V in Career counseling focused group sessions ...How do you keep your integrity as you remain relevant in your discipline? #HipHopEd
I think that is a great question! Educators at times do the same old thing. Same lesson plans, same materials, different year, different group of students. We have a responsibility to get to know our students and meet them where they are. #HipHopEd
Talking about an album or a song out of context is unfair to students. Who is this artist? (How) Is he problematic? What values does he support & practice publicly? Have we seen change or growth? This is one way we can teach accountability. #hiphoped
.@LilTunechi’s Tha Carter hit when I was starting undergrad, so I can only imagine the next gen’s connection to this. How do we compartmentalize our own coming-of-age connection to #carter5 with our students? #HipHopEd
Young folks are fired up about Tha Carter V. Educators must compartmentalize their judgments about the album in order to use it as a tool for teaching and learning. #HipHopEd#CarterV
Fascinating how Wayne combined current flows, old school lyricism & auto-tuned tracks. He recognized how the culture has shifted since his last release #HipHopEd#CarterV
Talking about an album or a song out of context is unfair to students. Who is this artist? (How) Is he problematic? What values does he support & practice publicly? Have we seen change or growth? This is one way we can teach accountability. #hiphoped
I’m curious if the abuse allegations against X ever come up in conversations with students and how to balance the reality/seriousness of those allegations with his influence in popular culture? #HipHopEd
#ThaCarterV presents numerous objectifications of women and figurative and actual uses of sex that are extremely problematic and we have to address these topics honestly without giving artistic passes #HipHopEd
I think that is a great question! Educators at times do the same old thing. Same lesson plans, same materials, different year, different group of students. We have a responsibility to get to know our students and meet them where they are. #HipHopEd
#LetItAllWorkOut tells an intricate story of relationships, depression, redemption, God, & knowledge of self. "There's only one you." #hiphoped#CarterV
If it weren’t for #HipHopEd I would feel like my generation has a handful of hope at receiving culturally relevant content. From growing up on Wayne it’s really eye opening to see #TheCarterV to connect to teaching and learning real life lessons and how they perpetuate society.
You hear moments of reflection that come from growth as well as the resolve to remain the same based on things not changing. This is a gift and a curse! #ThaCarterV#HipHopEd
The Uproar track leans on Swizz and the #SpecialDelivery beat from a dope BadBoy moment when all of HipHop was #HarlemShaking glad to see it back this way instead of its last iteration #HipHopEd
The marketing tactics of #CarterV were key too. Wayne had me waiting up till midnight twice to try and catch the drop. How can we market our courses, and/or upcoming units, to garner that same excitement from youth? #HipHopEd
Just happened in my class today. My students broke down Wayne’s Love Me from I Am Not A Human Being 2. Nothing but problematic language in the song and problematic imagery in the video #HipHopEd
#ThaCarterV presents numerous objectifications of women and figurative and actual uses of sex that are extremely problematic and we have to address these topics honestly without giving artistic passes #HipHopEd
If it weren’t for #HipHopEd I would feel like my generation has a handful of hope at receiving culturally relevant content. From growing up on Wayne it’s really eye opening to see #TheCarterV to connect to teaching and learning real life lessons and how they perpetuate society.
If not everything Wayne discusses in this album is something we necessarily want to promote, it's a good opportunity to teach our students that we can enjoy the music and appreciate the art while still being critical of the words and refusing to glorify the message. #HipHopEd
That’s something that is so dope about hip hop is the ways in which the past is kept alive/current, reconnecting younger generations to older #hiphoped
The Uproar track leans on Swizz and the #SpecialDelivery beat from a dope BadBoy moment when all of HipHop was #HarlemShaking glad to see it back this way instead of its last iteration #HipHopEd
TRUE, Unbreakable could be the perfect theme song for the GOP at the #KavanaughHearings, not that any would be hip to such things, but it certainly could be the video highlight backdrop. #hiphoped
think we have to also grapple with the ways in which society and oppressive systems have influenced his outlook and craft, but I think that is true of any person’s craft. It seems as if Weezy might be a genius, but not yet liberated from those oppressive systems. #HipHopEd
@LilTunechi provides an opportunity to help students track the expansion of Hip-Hop as a cross cultural influencer from hood sub culture to skater sub culture and beyond #HipHopEd#ThaCarterV
This, I think, is the lasting influence of @LilTunechi - his use of hip hop’s self-reflective capacity and the narratives that grow out of that, story as healing. #HipHopEd
Not only versatile flow, but the album was versatile in substance. Another thing to keep in mind when trying to be culturally responsive in our pedagogy and trying to reach students from different backgrounds. #HipHopEd
The lyrics on & inclusion of Snoop on #DopeNs communicates an appreciation for intergenerational conversations. Acknowledging those dope dudes that contributed to his success. The Culture needs this. #hiphoped#CarterV
But as a queer black woman teaching black and brown students , I deal with this conundrum every day. How do I illuminate the brilliance of one’s work for my students while also teaching them to critically interrogate it? #HipHopEd
Remember the way Lil Wayne talks about women? What he said about BLM? How would some of your students feel if this was held up as inspirational? Its one thing to use his music as a teaching tool, but its another to put him on that pedestal. #hiphopedhttps://t.co/6VdHxZOEej
I've found that music is a really great starting point for these conversations. It helps students to take something they know well and enjoy already, and then critically analyze it! #hiphoped
The brilliance is something than can be looked at as thought provoking as opposed to positive or negative. If the work provides depth to be critically interrogated where Ss see themselves and make change, then that's the win #HipHopEd
Definitely. For me, putting Weezy up above my desk in my office is more about my own craft as an educator and journey as a scholar struggling to make amends with my love for Weezy and role as a queer black teacher in a white space. #HipHopEd
Remember the way Lil Wayne talks about women? What he said about BLM? How would some of your students feel if this was held up as inspirational? Its one thing to use his music as a teaching tool, but its another to put him on that pedestal. #hiphopedhttps://t.co/6VdHxZOEej
I've never thought about this question, but I think it is a great one to consider! In my next position (whether faculty or administrative) I need to think about how I can create programs or courses/lesson plans that will excite my students! #HipHopEd
Know that teasing out value and critiquing an artifact (even one you dont endorse) is an exercise that benefits the educator and the student #HipHopEd#CarterV
Not at all! I teach mathematics & teachers tend to narrow the content rather than expanding it to allow for multiple approaches and exploration of the content. Teachers must be willing to expand & remix to capture a greater audience #HipHopEd
I was in a conversation today where we discussed focusing on the value of teaching a skill or ability verses pushing our own values. I think this applies in delving into #ThaCarterV as an educator #HipHopEd
Someone already mentioned something similar to this, but it's important to teach the students to examine the circumstances behind where the lyrics came from. It's important for kids to know they can enjoy music while not enjoying any negative messages presented by it. #HipHopEd
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@sheathescholar, @tdj6899, @chrisemdin
While my students never see my desk, I do think it is important to teach students how to appreciate one’s craft and use it to fuel your own without necessarily agreeing with that person’s character, ridiculous statements, and actions. #HipHopEd
Wayne discusses concepts that shows us and students there's strength in honesty & vulnerability:
"I said salute, bulletproof, I gave 'em proof /Sometimes feel like my head a screw, twisted like tornados too/
Man, I'ma need some crazy glue." #HipHopEd
Personally, I don't think the lyrics would be as problematic (or as relevant) if they weren't such painfully accurate representations of our society. #HipHopEd
1/2 #ThaCarterV is nothing short of a masterpiece tailored for today’s youth that can still hit home for older generations. However, many educators and activists have had an issue with Wayne’s comments about #BlackLivesMatter and #HipHopEd
The dimensions and layers of musical genres highlighted on several tracks of #CarterV takes me back to the discussion from Stuart Hall’s Black Popular Culture in @BLoveSoulPower class and the influence of popular culture #HipHopEd
Storytelling & vulnerable reflection are the things I value most in hiphop. While I have critiques, #ThaCarterV is the first time I'd really seen this from Wayne in a significant way.
#HipHopEd
I'm glad u mentioned math as I used to be a math teacher. 🤓 How much more can you do than to have your students make up songs to memorize formulas and such? Can u take the time to get students to appreciate Hip Hop? #HipHopEd
If you have established the relationships necessary to share your personal views with your students then you can address where your problems lie within #ThaCarterV and it be a teachable moment with your students #HipHopEd
Also, exploring the artists' history and problematic behaviors - outside of the narratives and constructs pushed forth by people within/outside the industry is NECESSARY.
The valorization of Lil Wayne is incredibly problematic .. on multiple levels #HipHopEd
Talking about an album or a song out of context is unfair to students. Who is this artist? (How) Is he problematic? What values does he support & practice publicly? Have we seen change or growth? This is one way we can teach accountability. #hiphoped
I get that. And also: I've talked about this before on #HipHopEd, but i think its an abuse of power for educators to use their classroom/students for their own healing/reflection/etc. School needs to be a safe, inclusive, student-centered space.
#TheCarterV didn’t do anything for me. It was a okay album at best. I think Wayne has cemented himself as of the GOATs of HipHop. I’m good with just hearing features and sporadic songs from him #hiphoped
Can be one way that educators and activists build relationships with artists and influencers to show the impact those kinds of statements can make on marginalized populations who do not have the lifestyles and protections of wealthy artists #hiphoped
I see it as a cycle of both representation and perpetuation. The lyrics are a representation of the sexism and misogyny within our society and culture, but also help to perpetuate these issues within our society through inclusion in popular art. #HipHopEd
2/2 Can be one way that educators and activists build relationships with artists and influencers to show the impact those kinds of statements can make on marginalized populations who do not have the lifestyles and protections of wealthy artists #hiphoped
If your students never see your desk, then that's different. I just know if i had a teacher who had a visible Wayne poster up, & i knew how Wayne felt about women, that would suggest to me how that teacher felt about women, too. (And that's not a jab, just an ex.) #hiphoped
As one of the heads of #HipHopEd and understanding what our sisters mean to us personally and to our community; I hope we are clear in our critiques and consistent in our evaluations of #ThaCarterV and @LilTunechi
I think so. You allow the culture to become part of the classroom, create a vibe that allows students the space to be who they are. I've had conversations about artists and music with individual or small groups of students. #HipHopEd
#TheCarter5 has a lot of stuff that's great and a lot of stuff that we (and our students) should be critical of. That's the duality of humanity and the duality of hip-hop at work, and that's okay. Our students need to be able to recognize that and know that it's okay. #HipHopEd
I understand. The initial statement I made actually had nothing to do about me using Lil Wayne’s face and/or lyrics in my classroom. It was in response to him knowing how to tailor his craft around his audience in my planning process. My desk is not in my classroom. #hiphoped
An interesting discussion w/ students “what happens when your faves get reckless” aka: Kanye, Weezy, A banks, etc. how can/do we hold each other accountable and why? How (when) do we engage or not? #HipHopEd
This is such a critical point and at times we strive for #HipHopEd to be that space for educators to heal and process so that we are not doing this at the expense of our students #CultureFix in the building @norarahimian
I get that. And also: I've talked about this before on #HipHopEd, but i think its an abuse of power for educators to use their classroom/students for their own healing/reflection/etc. School needs to be a safe, inclusive, student-centered space.
I also think that, while I've never been a Weezy fan, it's important to acknowledge where he's coming from in terms of a) physical place & b) mentally, seeing as we could *very* easily be speaking of him posthumously
#HipHopEd#ThaCarterV
This. Omg. This. If we don’t bald faced look at the issue straight in the eye, how are we going to model that critical stance to our students? Why are Weezy and Yeezy, and the world so subject to disappoint?? #HipHopEd
An interesting discussion w/ students “what happens when your faves get reckless” aka: Kanye, Weezy, A banks, etc. how can/do we hold each other accountable and why? How (when) do we engage or not? #HipHopEd
Can educators decode the way students discuss their own health?
"Goodbye letter, "Dear Life" sh*t
So if a nigga kill me, hope he mean it/
I just hope I die for a reason/They probably won't miss me 'til they need me /Have problems with admittin' that they need me" #HipHopEd
I wish that was the case, but we still have a long way to go. What makes me optimistic is to see efforts these days to generate awareness for it. What I love about #ThaCarterV is its vulnerability - features that could help educators to relate with students. #HipHopEd
As a future 5th grade math teacher, I feel like incorporating #HipHopEd will be difficult to do in my classroom. How else could HipHopEd be incorported in my 50 min class other than unique word problems?
An interesting discussion w/ students “what happens when your faves get reckless” aka: Kanye, Weezy, A banks, etc. how can/do we hold each other accountable and why? How (when) do we engage or not? #HipHopEd
If anything, this is a great opportunity/segway to talk to young people/your students about Wendy Day aka @RapCoalition, her work brokering some of Hip-Hop's most notable deals, the pitfalls of the industry and becoming independent
https://t.co/HaHbwawlbl#hiphoped
My kids and I spent so much class time discussing this with Kanye last year. Really inspiring conversation surrounding our support (or lack of support) for such types of artists and what the reasoning is. #HipHopEd
An interesting discussion w/ students “what happens when your faves get reckless” aka: Kanye, Weezy, A banks, etc. how can/do we hold each other accountable and why? How (when) do we engage or not? #HipHopEd
A4. This can take the standpoint of infusing #HipHopEd and pedagogy into the classroom and utilizing popular culture representations, but also connect back to the varied histories of Blacks throughout the world. #BMEsTalk
YES! With the way most students are taught to listen to authorities, there are very few who would feel that they can speak up in situations where educators do. It's on the educator to be introspective enough to know if they cross that line and refrain from continuing. #HipHopEd
If anything, this is a great opportunity/segway to talk to young people/your students about Wendy Day aka @RapCoalition, her work brokering some of Hip-Hop's most notable deals, the pitfalls of the industry and becoming independent
https://t.co/HaHbwawlbl#hiphoped
You're in the right place to ask this question, Jackie! Have you read @chrisemdin 's For White Folks? He distills important concepts from education and hip hop culture, transforms them into practical guidance. #HipHopEd
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@JackieSarzen, @mathsmarti, @mane_erika, @chrisemdin
I don't necessarily do anything unique with the math itself. When we get to data, one thing I will do is bring in data that is relevant to my students, explore data that affects them. I also create a space & a vibe in my classroom that is comfortable & safe for students #HipHopEd
@gotomssams pointed out lil Wayne's continued regard for Jay-Z by having his mother speak on #ThaCarterV similar to "The Black Album and "4:44" #HipHopEd
I'm actually trying to explore a similar idea where students can learn to use technology in a way that makes them feel safe and comfortable just as hip-hop can. #HipHopEd
I think we have to be honest with our individual growth and development that impacts how we process what we hear from even some of our favorite artists. What we want can change at a rate that is different from the voices that once shaped our thinking #HipHopEd
.@norarahimian does a lot of "emotional labor" on here, as she did here and has done for me too. It's invaluable, shea! I pay special attention to her tweets -- they're powerful, right?? #HipHopEd
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@sheathescholar, @norarahimian, @norarahimian
But is that even inadvertently then? Unfortunately, subconsciously or consciously, we as human beings often tend to shun away from any form of discomfort and inconvenience. However, the only way to grow and learn is to embrace the discomfort. #ThaCarterV#HipHopEd
One of Wayne's greatest accomplishments ... Doing what he did against all odds and consistently pushing himself forward.
Yet, I can't help wonder what may have been if he found a healthier way to deal with his challenges.
Still a 🐐 though. #HipHopEd
The problematic and objectionable content on #ThaCarterV also validates that many of the attitudes and behaviors of our youth are practiced and promoted by adults #HipHopEd#StayWoke
This. Esp. when we are inclined to "cancel" those we disagree with. Getting students to engage with this question of accountably taps into higher order thinking skills and reflexivity. #HipHopEd
An interesting discussion w/ students “what happens when your faves get reckless” aka: Kanye, Weezy, A banks, etc. how can/do we hold each other accountable and why? How (when) do we engage or not? #HipHopEd
As brothers we have "grow up" in our consciousness faster; for instance Jay-Z was in his later 40s before giving us 4:44 and @NasKingston was 40 before Life is Good. #HipHopEd
No. In traditional systems, there is a power imbalance between Ts and Ss, reinforced by schools as an institution + students as minors. Explore ideas together? Yes. Teacher self-reflection? No. That's an unfair burden to put on students. #hiphopedhttps://t.co/60597fkh8g
Great point! And also how can we engage them n a way that is constructive to their notions of self without breaking down the connections the have to artists which validate their existence and marginalized identities #HipHopEd
An interesting discussion w/ students “what happens when your faves get reckless” aka: Kanye, Weezy, A banks, etc. how can/do we hold each other accountable and why? How (when) do we engage or not? #HipHopEd
Yes! And there are so many good examples to choose from. We can uplift "relevant" artists who aren't sexist/homophobic/etc. #HipHopEdhttps://t.co/hPkdR7Fjy6
I think the voices we choose to amplify and discuss in our classrooms speak volumes to students. I think if I were going to use this album to unpack misogyny, I would only feel comfortable pairing it with another text that uplifts and fully celebrates women.
