#3rdchat Archive


Wednesday November 14, 2018
9:00 PM EST

  • Ron_Martiello Nov 14 @ 9:00 PM EST
    On behalf of the #3rdchat moderators, I would like to welcome you to the chat tonight. Our guest moderator is @jcorippo co-author of #EduProtocols and CUE Executive Director. Please take a minute to introduce yourself and your role in education.
  • jcorippo Nov 14 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Hey everyone at #3rdchat ! Looking forward to asking some thought provoking questions and sharing some #Eduprotocols that make everyone happy!!
    In reply to @Ron_Martiello
  • azurehenwood Nov 14 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Hello! Azure from Derby, Kansas. I am a 3rd grade teacher, DNEA president, currently working on my masters....and one tired mom. #3rdchat
  • hmgendronNPSD Nov 14 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Hi #3rdchat I'm Hannah and I teach 5th grade. Excited to learn more about #EduProtocols!
  • Ron_Martiello Nov 14 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Hello, Azure! Good to see you tonight! How is your class going? #3rdchat
    In reply to @azurehenwood
  • megsmithLMSD Nov 14 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Hey #3rdchat I teach 5th grade and can't wait to hear more about #EduProtocols
  • kristi_daws Nov 14 @ 9:05 PM EST
    I heard you had @jcorippo in #3rdchat tonight....
  • Ron_Martiello Nov 14 @ 9:06 PM EST
    I want to thank Jon for creating the questions tonight. I will be posting Jon’s questions as he facilitates the discussion. #3rdchat
  • bakerbg Nov 14 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Hello! Brett in PA - Learning Coach and excited to be here with #3rdchat, @Ron_Martiello and @jcorippo
  • Ron_Martiello Nov 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Q1 When we make our lesson plans based on workbooks, what do we give up, in terms of our profession? #3rdchat
  • DonnaWeth Nov 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Donna, 3rd grade teacher from Texas. #3rdchat
  • kristi_daws Nov 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
    I am a Technology Integration Specialist from @Region9ESC and happy to join in tonight. #3rdchat
  • jcorippo Nov 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Hi Brett! Sorry, @annkozma723 ate all the nachos already. But we will still have fun! #3rdchat #EduProtocols
    In reply to @bakerbg, @Ron_Martiello, @annkozma723
  • Ron_Martiello Nov 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Hi, Kristi! Thanks for joining us tonight. #3rdChat
    In reply to @kristi_daws, @jcorippo
  • Ron_Martiello Nov 14 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1: Plans based on workbook pages limit us to make decisions for our students. Plans are then based on answers and work completion only and detract from the learning experience we could be providing for students. #3rdchat
  • azurehenwood Nov 14 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Q1: When we plan based on our "workbooks", we miss out on opportunities to strengthen the depth of knowledge for our students and give them an opportunity to create and engage in their own connections for learning. #3rdchat
  • Ron_Martiello Nov 14 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Hello, Donna. Good to see you, my friend! #3rdchat
    In reply to @DonnaWeth
  • kristi_daws Nov 14 @ 9:08 PM EST
    I have sharing the love with my coworkers this week! #3rdchat
    In reply to @jcorippo
  • HeatherObershaw Nov 14 @ 9:09 PM EST
    I’m heather, I’m in Wisconsin, and I’m a 3rd grade teacher #3rdchat
  • DonnaWeth Nov 14 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1 Plans based on workbooks cause us to miss out on student and teacher creativity and innovation. It limits our ability to follow student interest and to make meaningful connections. #3rdchat
  • jcorippo Nov 14 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1 when we base our day/week/year on workbooks, it’s the same as a chef working at a corporate restaurant - we lose the creativity, and sooner or later, that saps our passion. Kids get the leftovers. #3rdchat
    • Ron_Martiello Nov 14 @ 9:07 PM EST
      Q1 When we make our lesson plans based on workbooks, what do we give up, in terms of our profession? #3rdchat
  • kristi_daws Nov 14 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1: Workbooks “generally” do not allow for the special needs and levels of all the students in the room. #3rdchat
  • jcorippo Nov 14 @ 9:11 PM EST
    That answer key is a huge fun suck and limits DIVERGENT thinkers. #3rdchat
    In reply to @Ron_Martiello
  • DonnaWeth Nov 14 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Happening now! #3rdchat #4thchat #2ndchat
  • kristi_daws Nov 14 @ 9:12 PM EST
    #3rdChat
    In reply to @jcorippo, @Region9ESC
  • hmgendronNPSD Nov 14 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1: When we use workbooks, we loose out on time for students to lead discussions, create their own learning opportunities, and collaborate with their peers. #3rdchat
  • megsmithLMSD Nov 14 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1: When teachers base our lesson plans on workbooks, students become consumers not innovative thinkers and creators. Ts give up their creativity and ability to engage students in higher level thinking #3rdchat
  • Ron_Martiello Nov 14 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Q2 When we make our lesson plans based on online worksheets what do we give up, in terms of our profession? #3rdchat
  • jcorippo Nov 14 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Yes! That open ended approach to learning is critical! Check out what @CoriOrlando1 is doing this week with her 2nd graders planning Thanksgiving Dinner in a spreadsheet and doing a CyberSandwich on turkeys. Her kids are getting SO much more than a worksheet! #3rdchat
    • DonnaWeth Nov 14 @ 9:10 PM EST
      A1 Plans based on workbooks cause us to miss out on student and teacher creativity and innovation. It limits our ability to follow student interest and to make meaningful connections. #3rdchat
  • Ron_Martiello Nov 14 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A2: Substituting for online worksheets takes away from our ability to facilitate online collaboration and exploration. It is also #3rdchat
  • Ron_Martiello Nov 14 @ 9:15 PM EST
    I value the power of those collaborative conversations. Students gain so much when they can work together. #3rdchat
    In reply to @hmgendronNPSD
  • megsmithLMSD Nov 14 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1: When teachers base lesson plans based on workbooks, students become consumers not creative, innovative thinkers. T's give up their ability to be creative and engage learners in higher level thinking #3rdchat
  • azurehenwood Nov 14 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A2: What does a student ever truly learn from just doing a worksheet? Our students deserve the opportunity to learn with hands-on activities integrating technology and creativity. #3rdchat
  • DonnaWeth Nov 14 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Yes! Teachers gain so much when they can work together too! #3rdchat
    In reply to @Ron_Martiello, @hmgendronNPSD
  • jcorippo Nov 14 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Ugh. And differentiation DOES NOT mean different #workshits for all the different groups. That’s crazy. #3rdchat
    In reply to @kristi_daws
  • kristi_daws Nov 14 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A2: Except for quicker feedback, online worksheets are no better than paper worksheets. #3rdchat
  • jcorippo Nov 14 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2 I really worry that online worksheets and click to score tools are WORSE than paper worksheets. They appear like the kids are working, but allow for less humanity (a lab full of kids with headphones on -ugh!). Edtech should increase our S interaction. #3rdchat
    In reply to @Ron_Martiello
  • DonnaWeth Nov 14 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2 Online activities are a great opportunity to connect with other students, classes and experts. It can also give students the opportunity to learn how to use online tools to create. An online worksheet doesn't do that. #3rdchat
  • Ron_Martiello Nov 14 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Q3 With kindergarteners routinely using tech to do things like coding and robotics, should we worry the phrase “developmentally appropriate” could be an excuse for what Ss can accomplish in class? #3rdchat
  • Ron_Martiello Nov 14 @ 9:21 PM EST
    No limits to learning. Learning extends beyond the classroom and students can go global. Worksheets in any form can’t do that. #3rdchat
    In reply to @jcorippo
  • Ron_Martiello Nov 14 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A3: Littles should be given time for productive play and to see the possibilities. They are curious and need time to explore tech tools, not just games that drill skills. Assume student competency even in Kindergarten. #3rdchat
  • azurehenwood Nov 14 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A3: Technology should never replace instruction, but rather enhance learning. I think my students grow more and remember more when we utilize tools that challenge their learning. In our world, we need to redesign how students learn at their level. #3rdchat
  • jcorippo Nov 14 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Right here, #3rdchat - check this out!!
  • DonnaWeth Nov 14 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A3 I think we need to be careful to limit kids. They are capable of so much more than we realize. We should give them the opportunity and support to prove it. #3rdchat
  • kristi_daws Nov 14 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A3: There are developmentally appropriate coding activities for Ks (Code-a-pillar and sequence activities) They need free play and exploration first!! #3rdchat
  • Ron_Martiello Nov 14 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Q4 What are some ways we can increase student efficacy by lowering their cognitive load on daily tasks? What would your job be like if you had to relearn it daily? #3rdchat
  • janercooper Nov 14 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Instruction/stating objectives need to precede activities with technology...#3rdchat
    • azurehenwood Nov 14 @ 9:22 PM EST
      A3: Technology should never replace instruction, but rather enhance learning. I think my students grow more and remember more when we utilize tools that challenge their learning. In our world, we need to redesign how students learn at their level. #3rdchat
  • bakerbg Nov 14 @ 9:28 PM EST
    This is so much a part of the shift that has to occur! The Ts need to feel the freedom to let the Ss FLY! #3rdchat
    • DonnaWeth Nov 14 @ 9:26 PM EST
      A3 I think we need to be careful to limit kids. They are capable of so much more than we realize. We should give them the opportunity and support to prove it. #3rdchat
  • azurehenwood Nov 14 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A4: To me, this concept screams project-based learning. When we can make cross-curricular connections and integrate the skills needed for learning each task, magic can happen with our students. Less single tasks and more connected learning opportunities. #3rdchat
  • Ron_Martiello Nov 14 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A4: Design instruction that supports processes and a culture of learning. #EduProtocols allow students to internalize processes and culture through multiple iterations and the 4 Cs. Now, students have more cognitive energy to learn the content. #3rdchat
  • kristi_daws Nov 14 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A4: Don’t “over schedule” their day. Allow for time to explore and learn in the moment. What if they become curious about weather? Do you stop that to focus on the lesson plans? #3rdchat
  • Ron_Martiello Nov 14 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Teachable moments are so important. we need to leave room for them. #3rdchat
    In reply to @kristi_daws
  • DonnaWeth Nov 14 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A4 What would my job be like... interesting thought. I would become frustrated and feel like I wasn't gaining ground. I would lose my motivation. We have to keep it fresh, engaging, and valuable. #3rdchat
  • Ron_Martiello Nov 14 @ 9:35 PM EST
    Q5: Ts often struggle to integrate tech into lessons because it’s seen as an “add-on”. What if our pedagogical approach was paper-friendly and tech agnostic? #3rdchat
  • azurehenwood Nov 14 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A5: When we do our collaborative planning, we are always looking at the SAMR model for technology integration. This helps to rethink how tech is integrated into the learning process. I believe there needs to be a healthy balance of both paper and paperless. #3rdchat
  • Ron_Martiello Nov 14 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A5: I like to take an eclectic approach. I use what is best for my learners. Both tech and paper need to be viable options for my students to show their learning. Tools are more powerful when students choose them. #3rdchat
  • DonnaWeth Nov 14 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A5 We need to ask ourselves - is it good for kids. If the answer is yes then that is what we should do - paper, tech, or whatever #3rdchat
  • kristi_daws Nov 14 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A5: Focus in the goal of the activity 1st. Then if a tech option enhances that DO IT!! I can find a tool for anything but sometimes it is not needed. #3rdchat
  • Ron_Martiello Nov 14 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Yes! Students and learning come first. #3rdchat
    In reply to @DonnaWeth
  • Ron_Martiello Nov 14 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Q6 A key to student growth (or any human improvement) is fast feedback - what are some ways you give fast feedback to students? #3rdchat
  • jcorippo Nov 14 @ 9:42 PM EST
    I like SAMR, but I think the 4Cs is way better. Check out the 4Cs Throwdown in the book. :) #3rdchat
    In reply to @azurehenwood
  • Ron_Martiello Nov 14 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A6: I use Station Rotation to create time and space for rapid-cycle feedback. Sometimes, I conference 1-1. Other times I float and facilitate and observe. Feedback can be face to face and/or digital. In either case, feedback is on-the-spot and in real-time. #3rdchat
  • Ron_Martiello Nov 14 @ 9:43 PM EST
    @jcorippo and @mhebern offer tons of great ways to make tech a more natural integration into learning. Check out #EduProtocols #3rdchat
    In reply to @azurehenwood, @jcorippo, @mhebern
  • azurehenwood Nov 14 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A6: Two words: Stop procrastinating. In all seriousness, Ss need quick turnaround feedback to assist in reteaching or retention of skills. #3rdchat
  • kristi_daws Nov 14 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A6: Rather than “turning in” answers, float around and interact, remediate, and give feedback DURING the activity. #3rdchat
  • jcorippo Nov 14 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A4 one of the keys to #EduProtocols is that the task part of the cognitive load DISAPPEARS after 6-8 reps and then ALL that matters is the CONTENT. That’s the sweet spot. #3rdchat
    In reply to @Ron_Martiello
  • DonnaWeth Nov 14 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A6 I work hard to build relationships and trust with my students so I can give open and honest feedback - immediately. I tell them, I write to them, I show them. They need to know you want them to grow and try new things. #3rdchat
  • CoriOrlando1 Nov 14 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Thanks, Corippo! My third graders are having a blast and growing by leaps and bounds! #3rdchat
    In reply to @jcorippo
  • Ron_Martiello Nov 14 @ 9:46 PM EST
    I have had a blast talking about the 4Cs in Math. Students’ learning is accelerated through communicating, collaborating, critically thinking, and being creative with their problem solving. #3rdchat
    In reply to @jcorippo, @azurehenwood
  • jcorippo Nov 14 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Actually, there are ways to do both at once, and seamlessly infuse tech. @JohannMundy and @CoriOrlando1 are serous pros at a Teflon smooth initial instruction model that allows for lots of tech with little front loading. #3rdchat
    In reply to @janercooper, @JohannMundy, @CoriOrlando1
  • jcorippo Nov 14 @ 9:48 PM EST
    We need a web cam on them!! Good news, they are active over-sharers. Just follow along. :) #3rdchat #EduProtocols
    In reply to @DonnaWeth, @janercooper, @JohannMundy, @CoriOrlando1
  • Ron_Martiello Nov 14 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Q7 is a sharing question - have a look at what @nowatechie, @coriorlando1 and @johannmundy are doing with kids below 4th grade - it’s exciting! #3rdchat
  • megsmithLMSD Nov 14 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A5: I'm all about integrating tech but also a fan of giving students choice over which tool best fits their learning style. Shifting towards a student centered approach could yield higher levels of student ownership in the learning process #3rdchat
  • kristi_daws Nov 14 @ 9:52 PM EST
    #3rdchat
    In reply to @Ron_Martiello, @NowaTechie, @CoriOrlando1, @JohannMundy
  • jcorippo Nov 14 @ 9:55 PM EST
    Sure thing! Choose your app or tool - who cares HOW Ss show their knowledge?? #3rdchat
    • megsmithLMSD Nov 14 @ 9:51 PM EST
      A5: I'm all about integrating tech but also a fan of giving students choice over which tool best fits their learning style. Shifting towards a student centered approach could yield higher levels of student ownership in the learning process #3rdchat
  • DonnaWeth Nov 14 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A7 Can I share? Here is what we have been doing lately! I’m so proud of these kids. We have pushed ourselves way out of our comfort zones! #3rdchat
  • jcorippo Nov 14 @ 9:56 PM EST
    Whooo yeah! Tons of GREAT math at https://t.co/r4Gqw119pr Lisa is curating amazing, workbook free math activities! #3rdchat #mathreps
    In reply to @Ron_Martiello, @NowaTechie, @CoriOrlando1, @JohannMundy
  • DonnaWeth Nov 14 @ 9:57 PM EST
    #3rdchat
  • Ron_Martiello Nov 14 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Thank you, @jcorippo for an AWESOME chat tonight. Thank you to everyone who joined #3rdchat. Please take a minute to follow someone new. We hope you will join us for our next chat on November 28th. No #3rdchat next week. Have a Happy Thanksgiving!
  • jcorippo Nov 14 @ 9:58 PM EST
    @gfletchy has RAD #3actmath examples for k-3 students! #3rdchat go get ‘em!! #EduProtocols
    In reply to @Ron_Martiello, @azurehenwood, @gfletchy
  • azurehenwood Nov 14 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Thank you for a great chat @jcorippo! #3rdchat
  • MrsParde Nov 14 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Love diving in and scrolling through tonight’s #3rdchat I learn so much from this awesome group! Thank you!