#octmchat Archive


Thursday April 5, 2018
8:30 PM EDT

  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Let's get #octmchat started! Come join us!
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Let's build our PLN and see who is joining the conversation tonight! #octmchat
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Just a few reminders #octmchat
  • deb_gabelm Apr 5 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Hello! My name is Debbie. I am an Otterbein student working towards the 4/5 endorsement. #octmchat
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Let's wrap up those introductions #octmchat
  • jonellebell Apr 5 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Jonelle Bell, Kindergarten teacher and Math Instructional Leader for Madeira. My goal is to enjoy every minute with this group until the end. #OCTMchat
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Joe from Cincinnati! Kindergarten teacher! #octmchat My goal is to continue to engage students in learning
  • cmsmath Apr 5 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Catherine Schulte, Hamilton County ESC, math consultant/coach. My goal for the year is to finish multiple projects for the districts I am currently working with and think about next steps. #octmchat
  • IKlepinger Apr 5 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Hi, my name is Ian Klepinger and I am currently studying at Otterbein University for my MAT. My goal for the remainder of this school year is to be much more intelligible and understanding regarding mathematics! #octmchat
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Welcome Catherine! #octmchat
    In reply to @cmsmath
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    @joboaler talks about timed tests as an onset to #MathAnxiety https://t.co/FQsInQMQZ8 #octmchat
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Welcome Ian! Glad to have you join! #octmchat
    In reply to @IKlepinger
  • BaileyJodie - Moderator Apr 5 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Hi, everyone! Jodie Bailey - math coach @HilliardSchools & President Elect @ohioctm My goal for the remainder of the school year is to continue building a love of math with our students! #octmchat
  • kathy25 Apr 5 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    #octmchat Instructional leader from Forest Hills, Cincinnati My goal is to wonder and ask more questions. #HCESCedchat
  • cotts_jandra Apr 5 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Hello! Jandra Cotts, math coach for Stow Munroe Falls City Schools. My goal is to encourage parents and students to engage in meaningful math conversations over the summer. #octmchat
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Hey Jodie, glad to see you tonight! #octmchat
    In reply to @BaileyJodie, @HilliardSchools, @ohioctm
  • OP_Mongoose Apr 5 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    #octmchat my name is Emily Leininger and I am a preservice teacher at otterbein university. I hope to end this school year knowing what I can do to help my future students believe in themselves and their school abilities!
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Welcome Kathy! Glad you are with us! #octmchat
    In reply to @kathy25
  • missskonieczny_ Apr 5 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Lauren Skonieczny, Aurora City Schools, 2nd grade. My goal is to work on authentic and situational reporting to families #octmchat
  • jjobney Apr 5 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Jaymie Obney Numeracy Coach Dublin City Schools. #octmchat
  • stacieoconnell1 Apr 5 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    I’m Stacie. I teach 2nd grade in Hilliard #octmchat
  • kathy25 Apr 5 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    #octmchat A1 continue to model that I really value more your process and your thinking then I do your speed
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A1: I think timed tests only hinder Ss thinking and reinforce negative thinking. I think allowing Ss to solve a few problems can help Ss achieve the same goal of looking for fluency. This can be done through number talks and other means of real world problems. #octmchat
  • jjobney Apr 5 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A1 We've been doing running records in our district this year and it shows strategies that students use not just the answer. #octmchat
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Love the modeling! Why speed it only shows the disparity for Ss and has no effect for learning in my opinion #octmchat
    In reply to @kathy25
  • OP_Mongoose Apr 5 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    #octmchat q1: we can move away from timed tests by using fun games that help build fluency without the time crunch.
  • jonellebell Apr 5 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A1: Continue to provide teachers with resources that increase fact fluency other than timed test. #OCTMchat
  • BaileyJodie - Moderator Apr 5 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A1: I've been trying @drnikkimath running records - you learn so much about how Ss are thinking! https://t.co/FiMB0XFs4j #octmchat
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    love the idea of running records to show strategies! #octmchat
    In reply to @jjobney
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Anything to show thinking is phenomenal...it shows true learning and shows what Ss can do! #octmchat
    In reply to @BaileyJodie
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:39 PM EDT
  • MattAnderson289 Apr 5 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A1: building mathematical endurance is an important aspect of encouraging efficient method/strategy selection - timed tests for rote memory tasks does increase anxiety #octmchat
  • kathy25 Apr 5 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    #octmchat agree, process and strategies far outweigh speed. @jrsteach
    • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:37 PM EDT
      Love the modeling! Why speed it only shows the disparity for Ss and has no effect for learning in my opinion #octmchat
      In reply to @kathy25
  • stacieoconnell1 Apr 5 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    #octmchat A1 I have not given timed tests in years because I had a parent open my eyes to the anxiety her child was having.
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    I do think some teachers do not know how to increase fluency. Do you have any thing specific you use? #octmchat
    In reply to @jonellebell
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    #octmchat many parents have #MathAnxiety What can we do to not have it passed onto our students?
  • missskonieczny_ Apr 5 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Q1: If we are focusing on building number sense and conceptual understanding, students might take longer to think through patterns. I get a general idea of who is efficient but don’t put pressure on the speed #octmchat
  • cotts_jandra Apr 5 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A1 Encourage students to persevere and strive to do better than than before. Encourage ALL forward movement! #octmchat
  • deb_gabelm Apr 5 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A1: Provide students alternatives to practice math fluency without a focus on speed. #octmchat
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    I have not either...its been years! I feel so bad that I even gave them years ago. I need to go back and say sorry #octmchat
    In reply to @stacieoconnell1
  • missskonieczny_ Apr 5 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A1: If we are focusing on building number sense and conceptual understanding, students might take longer to think through patterns. I get a general idea of who is efficient but don’t put pressure on the speed #octmchat
  • IKlepinger Apr 5 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A1: I think we can move away from timed tests by finding other methods that work best under the conditions of the students. Such as small discussions, group activities, and even warm-up problems to get things moving along. #octmchat
  • cmsmath Apr 5 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A1 Helping students focus on individual accomplishments - keeping their own data and building flexibility with numbers. #octmchat
  • chrissybug24 Apr 5 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A1: Sorry... late to the #octmchat... I love that our standards define fluency as not just efficient and accurate, but also flexible... how do timed tests show the flexibility of our Ss? #beyondtimedtests
  • cotts_jandra Apr 5 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A2 Communication is the key. Talk about math conceptual understanding. Have parents be a part of the learning process. #octmchat
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    I love the #flexible piece! #octmchat
    In reply to @chrissybug24
  • KenjiMatsudo Apr 5 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Excited to be “listening in” on math tweeting from one of the best kindergarten teachers I know. :) #OCTMchat
    • jonellebell Apr 5 @ 8:38 PM EDT
      A1: Continue to provide teachers with resources that increase fact fluency other than timed test. #OCTMchat
  • OP_Mongoose Apr 5 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    #octmchat a2: we can help both parents and students with anxiety by giving them strategies to use in the moment and to give them the tools to help keep the anxiety way!
  • MattAnderson289 Apr 5 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A2: do our best to remove the colloquial phrase "it's ok, I'm not a math person" from the vocabulary of those we encounter. Mathematical literacy is for everybody #octmchat
  • IKlepinger Apr 5 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A2: I think by (optimally) keeping close contact with students and parents alike, we would be able to engage in what's best for our students. Or at least be in touch frequently with parents just to touch base. #octmchat
  • chrissybug24 Apr 5 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    Hi, friends! I’m Christina... one of the math consultants/coaches @HamiltonCoESC... also proud president of @ohioctm... my goal is to make a difference everyday for the betterment of our Ss #octmchat
  • kathy25 Apr 5 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    #octmchat One of my favorite tools is Mastering the Basic Facts
  • jonellebell Apr 5 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A2: I feel the more that we let parents into our classrooms they see how positive math is for their children. Bloomz and SeeSaw are great tools for doing this. #OCTMchat
  • aopete1 Apr 5 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    Coming in late. Anna, Cincinnati, grade 4 #octmchat
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    love that one! I also like Well Played #octmchat
    In reply to @kathy25
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    #octmchat we are having some great discussions!
  • MattAnderson289 Apr 5 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Certainly in situations with high stakes tests like the ACT - tests where the time element is a key factor in successfully navigating the test #octmchat
    In reply to @BaileyJodie
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    #octmchat
  • chrissybug24 Apr 5 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A2: I love all the math nights I’m hearing about... giving families a chance to do the math with their student- I also feel like we need to educate families about #growthmindset vs. fixed mindset #octmchat
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    Grades can increase the #MathAnxiety We know many of us have to "give" grades; therefore, how can we lessen the anxiety of grades? #octmchat
  • BaileyJodie - Moderator Apr 5 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A2: Providing parents with games, puzzles and opportunities to talk about math with their kids might alleviate some of the anxiety about "traditional" school math experiences. #octmchat
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A2: I think parents have a disconnect. I would rather just have kids go home and play games with their parents and have fun with math! #octmchat
  • missskonieczny_ Apr 5 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A2: Eliminating homework! The best learning happens when the teacher put them in situations and peers share in class. This avoids putting pressure on parents to “teach” their kids. Provide games that they can play with their children at home that promote math thinking! #octmchat
  • stacieoconnell1 Apr 5 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A2 this is a huge part of my discussion during parent-teacher conferences. I think communication with parents is so important. I think it’s innocent on their part #octmchat
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    how fun! Its such a fun game. I have adjusted even more so for all levels of kdg. I'll have to share! #octmchat
    In reply to @cmsmath
  • MsSaunders18 Apr 5 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A2: Explaining strategies to parents has been very helpful since many learned different strategies when they were in school. For example, I explained decomposing to parents so they knew what their children were practicing and how to help! #octmchat
  • aopete1 Apr 5 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    I like the fact practice in https://t.co/fZMCec6mIq for keeping track of fluency. It does not emphasis even time. #octmchat
  • jonellebell Apr 5 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A3: We are moving to standards based assessments next year K-4. #OCTMchat
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Eliminate homework...Preach it!!! #octmchat
    In reply to @missskonieczny_
  • cmsmath Apr 5 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A2 I believe the more we can bring parents and caregivers into the conversation about math - the better. How do we structure curriculum nights, family math nights and other opportunities for parents? #octmchat
  • jjobney Apr 5 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    YES! Sending math "toolkits" home with dice, fraction cards, numeral cards, counters, etc. and then just send home directions to new games throughout the year #octmchat
    In reply to @BaileyJodie
  • chrissybug24 Apr 5 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    Me too! #octmchat
    In reply to @jrsteach, @kathy25
  • aopete1 Apr 5 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A3: Make grades meaningful and informative for students and parents. Standards-based grading is a goal I am moving toward in my classroom. #octmchat
  • chrissybug24 Apr 5 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A3: I’m loving the conversations I’m hearing Ts and Ss @WestCler having this year since K-5 have gone to standards-based report cards... it’s all about the standards and not a score #octmchat
  • MattAnderson289 Apr 5 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A3: celebrate success skills like hard work, risk taking, compassion, determination, and grit - things not easily quantified into a grade. This makes the ebbs and flows of learning less intimidating #octmchat
  • aopete1 Apr 5 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A3: I also provide written feedback without a grade on certain assignments #octmchat
  • MsSaunders18 Apr 5 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A3: My students rarely see actual grades. After assessments, I determine what they still need to practice and we work on it. There’s no need to say “You only got 1/4 so you need to practice more!” #octmchat
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A3: standards based I think can help with anxiety because it's not an overall "grade" and also not placing pressure on the grades but delving into Ss thinking. What does an "A" or "D" really mean and tell you as feedback for learning #octmchat
  • deb_gabelm Apr 5 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A2: Communication with families is key. Share math strategies that students are learning at school with parents. This helps parents feel informed and able to help students at home. #octmchat
  • cmsmath Apr 5 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A3 One of my districts is working on their standards based report cards for next year. Again, bringing parents into the conversation so that they understand what it truly means for their child is an important piece of the puzzle. #octmchat
  • OP_Mongoose Apr 5 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    #octmchat a3: something that has helped me is when teachers do an "add up" approach. Instead of taking away points for wrong answers, the focus is on the ones you get right! You also have the chance to go back to and work on the ones you've had trouble with!
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    I like the idea of celebrating their skills. I think it reinforces lifelong learning and just being a good citizen #octmchat
    In reply to @MattAnderson289
  • chrissybug24 Apr 5 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    Feedback without a grade helps Ss make their next move! I love it! #octmchat
    • aopete1 Apr 5 @ 8:50 PM EDT
      A3: I also provide written feedback without a grade on certain assignments #octmchat
  • MattAnderson289 Apr 5 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    There is a balance for sure! #octmchat
    In reply to @BaileyJodie
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    We are rarely talking grades but delving more into those standards and what the progressions are for learning! #octmchat
    In reply to @chrissybug24, @WestCler
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    #feedback is crucial, it allows Ss to continue their learning #octmchat
    In reply to @aopete1
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    #octmchat we have more question coming up
  • missskonieczny_ Apr 5 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A3: Don’t give grades! 🤷‍♀️ Communicate to families as the learning happens. It’s a process that will look different for each young person, at different times and with more or less support! #octmchat
  • BaileyJodie - Moderator Apr 5 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A3: Student portfolios and self reflections can help students see the growth they've made. And give them an opportunity to set goals for future learning. #octmchat
  • chrissybug24 Apr 5 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    Exactly... how do we bring families on board with standards-based report cards when they grew up with A, B, C, D, F? #octmchat
    • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:50 PM EDT
      A3: standards based I think can help with anxiety because it's not an overall "grade" and also not placing pressure on the grades but delving into Ss thinking. What does an "A" or "D" really mean and tell you as feedback for learning #octmchat
  • jjobney Apr 5 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A3 #octmchat Anxiety around grades can be decreased when teachers build a community of mathematicians focused on the process not the product and providing feedback to students that push thinking forward @TracyZager has a great excerpt in her book
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    #octmchat what can we do or help others do...
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A3: I always feel like I would rather write a narrative on Ss than do report cards with scores. You get more information. (It would take a long time to do) #octmchat
  • aopete1 Apr 5 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A3: I also think it is important for students to know that their grade always changes as they show deeper understanding in a given topic. It’s never set in stone. And I do not give zeros. #octmchat
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    A4: I want Ss to just think and not see grades or think they are doing this for a grade. I want Ss to see the value in their thinking and learning. #octmchat
  • IKlepinger Apr 5 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    A3: To have grades exchanged with something that isn't so complex in design and distressing in application. An A-F system is easy to understand but doesn't go in-depth regarding understanding and application of the content. Perhaps a standards assessment instead. #octmchat
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    @TracyZager is one of my favorites. If I ever meet or talk to her I may become speechless (along with a few of my other #mathcrushes) and for me to be speechless takes a lot #octmchat
    In reply to @jjobney, @TracyZager, @TracyZager
  • stacieoconnell1 Apr 5 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    A4 we talk a lot about growth mindset. It is a such a great way to encourage students to keep trying during math. #octmchat
  • aopete1 Apr 5 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    A4: Celebrate failure and learning from mistakes. Use growth mindset language. #octmchat
  • BaileyJodie - Moderator Apr 5 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    A4: @MathforLove TedTalk https://t.co/pC4NpS8iVx is a great resource for parents & teachers. His message about PLAYING with math is awesome! #octmchat
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    A4: I also think to change culture we need to be courageous enough to talk to colleagues about this as well and our administrators. We want to build lifelong learners! #octmchat
  • MsSaunders18 Apr 5 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    A4: I try to reduce math anxiety by focusing more on strategies than answers. If students get the wrong answer, that’s okay! We’ll go back and figure it out. No big deal. It also helps that they see me make mistakes all the time! 😬 #octmchat
  • OP_Mongoose Apr 5 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    #octmchat a4: I feel like if we start celebrating the process rather than the destination, we can help instill self esteem and self efficacy into our students.
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    I could watch this video multiple times...I love this one!!!! I love the play aspect! #octmchat
    In reply to @BaileyJodie, @MathforLove
  • jjobney Apr 5 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    Are you going to @NCTM a lot of #mathcrushes are there! We all have them :) #octmchat
    In reply to @jrsteach, @TracyZager, @NCTM
  • cmsmath Apr 5 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    A4 Continue to promote growth mindset in our classrooms. Love the power of "yet". #octmchat
  • TracyZager Apr 5 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    Ha! Adorbs. Here's a good chance to come and TALK to me so we can learn together. Spread the word, #octmchat! https://t.co/2qBY1SFZhN
    In reply to @jrsteach, @jjobney
  • chrissybug24 Apr 5 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    A4: shift the conversation about the standards, not the grades... I loved the idea of a “Mathematics Action Plan” that is co-created with family members and Ss found in @NCTM “The Impact if Identity in K-8 Mathematics” #octmchat
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    #octmchat great learning from everyone!
  • jrsteach Apr 5 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    No I am not going...I want to, its on my professional bucket list #octmchat
    In reply to @jjobney, @TracyZager, @NCTM