#lifelongKDG Archive


Thursday March 15, 2018
7:00 PM EDT

  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to the #lifelongKDG book study chat. Please introduce yourself with your name, location, role and share something you are passionate about!
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:01 PM EDT
    Hi Everyone! Steve from NJ. I learn with and from my middle school game development students. I am passionate about Games! (who woulda thought?) #lifelongKDG #games4ed #gbl
  • BenSpieldenner Mar 15 @ 7:01 PM EDT
    Ben Spieldenner, OH, English Teacher, I am passionate about making my class an experience! #lifelongKDG
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:00 PM EDT
      Welcome to the #lifelongKDG book study chat. Please introduce yourself with your name, location, role and share something you are passionate about!
  • KCintheNYC Mar 15 @ 7:01 PM EDT
    Good evening from Manhattan! I work on #CSforAllNYC and I'm passionate about life and creating communities! #lifelongkdg
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:00 PM EDT
      Welcome to the #lifelongKDG book study chat. Please introduce yourself with your name, location, role and share something you are passionate about!
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:01 PM EDT
    Ben!! Howzit? #lifelongKDG #minecraftedu #games4ed
    • BenSpieldenner Mar 15 @ 7:01 PM EDT
      Ben Spieldenner, OH, English Teacher, I am passionate about making my class an experience! #lifelongKDG
      • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:00 PM EDT
        Welcome to the #lifelongKDG book study chat. Please introduce yourself with your name, location, role and share something you are passionate about!
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:02 PM EDT
    Hey Kara :) #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KCintheNYC
  • KronbergToolbox Mar 15 @ 7:02 PM EDT
    Mike Kronberg, NY, middle school literacy specialist. I'm passionate about the Beatles. #lifelongKDG
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:03 PM EDT
    Hi #lifelongkdg! N from 🇨🇦. #edtech creator/cofounder/enthusiast. I'm passionate about high quality edtech (usually involving games) and the outdoors.
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:04 PM EDT
    Q1: Chapter 3 speaks a lot about personalized learning. What does personalized learning mean to you? #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:04 PM EDT
    Beautiful for sure! #lifelongKDG
  • MckennaJ72 Mar 15 @ 7:04 PM EDT
    #lifelongKDG Hey everyone. Jason McKenna. Normally from Pittsburgh, but today joining from Mexico City. I'm passionate about bringing #STEM to all students.
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:04 PM EDT
    Hey Mike! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KronbergToolbox
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:05 PM EDT
    A1: To me, #personalized learning is all about giving students choice in their learning pathway. Our goal is to help them find and nurture their passion for learning and learning should be relevant to the individual! #lifelongKDG #passionEDU
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:05 PM EDT
    Mexico City! Nice :) welcome. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MckennaJ72
  • BenSpieldenner Mar 15 @ 7:05 PM EDT
    A1: Seeking out what lights the fire of teaching for you. For me...its game-based learning and making connections. #lifelongKDG
  • mrsfigmakes Mar 15 @ 7:05 PM EDT
    Hello! Mandi from WV, Administrator in PA. Wear a lot of hats in my job, my favorites being teacher supervision and champion for innovation. Passionate about exploring high and low tech tools for making. Want my Ss to have the best of both worlds. #LifelongKDG
  • KCintheNYC Mar 15 @ 7:05 PM EDT
    Wow, wish I was there! #lifelongKDG Is it warm and wonderful?
    In reply to @MckennaJ72
  • KronbergToolbox Mar 15 @ 7:06 PM EDT
    A1) Personalized learning involves a lot of reflection and examination of how we are successful and what our cognitive or emotional obstacles might be. It means helping Ss find the way to learn that is best for them. not just the teacher's way. #lifelongKDG
  • KCintheNYC Mar 15 @ 7:06 PM EDT
    That's awesome, is that what lights your students' fires as well? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @BenSpieldenner
  • MckennaJ72 Mar 15 @ 7:06 PM EDT
    Yes to both. Terrific people, food and culture. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KCintheNYC
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:06 PM EDT
    A1 - Personalized learning to me comes in two forms - learning that is *directed* by the student (or student-led) and learning that is customized based on individual student needs. I think both are important and usually to do the first, you need the second. #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:07 PM EDT
    Definitely about lighting that fire. Reminds me of my favorite educational quote “Education is not the filling of the pail, but the lighting of a fire” - that Yeats speaks my language. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @BenSpieldenner
  • BenSpieldenner Mar 15 @ 7:07 PM EDT
    A1: For students...giving them time to seek that which inspires them. Giving them time to innovate. Providing a framework that students can explore themselves. #lifelongkdg
  • KCintheNYC Mar 15 @ 7:08 PM EDT
    Love the idea of personalizing around cognitive or emotional obstacles, can you say more about that? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KronbergToolbox
  • MckennaJ72 Mar 15 @ 7:08 PM EDT
    #lifelongkdg A1. I think personalized learning is allowing students to have voice and choice in their learning, while also allowing them to progress at their instructional level.
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:08 PM EDT
    Hi Mandi! Love the champion for innovation hat! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mrsfigmakes
  • BenSpieldenner Mar 15 @ 7:08 PM EDT
    Not all....but a lot. Part of the fun is learning what students are passionate about. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KCintheNYC
  • mpilakow Mar 15 @ 7:08 PM EDT
    Hi everyone! Melissa from Nebraska, 11-12 ELA. Passionate about language, reading, teaching! #lifelongkdg
  • KCintheNYC Mar 15 @ 7:08 PM EDT
    How do you get at the second? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MusingsOnEdTech
  • Dale_Chu Mar 15 @ 7:09 PM EDT
    HAPPENING NOW: @mr_isaacs leading a discussion on passion. Follow along at #lifelongKDG!
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:09 PM EDT
    Truth. It can be about personalizing the learning to meet their learning needs as well as personalizing the content #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KronbergToolbox
  • mrsfigmakes Mar 15 @ 7:10 PM EDT
    A1) Personalized learning is student-led and teacher-supported. It fosters curiosity and individuality. It is not one-on-one skill-based tutoring or sophisticated software. #LifelongKDG
  • KCintheNYC Mar 15 @ 7:10 PM EDT
    Welcome back! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mpilakow
  • mpilakow Mar 15 @ 7:10 PM EDT
    A1: Giving Ss opportunities to learn through some of their own choices and interests #lifelongkdg
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:10 PM EDT
    Guess we are having some type of telepathic thing happening here. I just replied to a tweet with the same general thought. #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @MusingsOnEdTech
  • MrMillerReads Mar 15 @ 7:10 PM EDT
    Tristan from NJ joining. #lifelongKDG
  • mpilakow Mar 15 @ 7:10 PM EDT
    Thanks Kara! #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @KCintheNYC
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:10 PM EDT
    Many ways to approach 2nd. Can be as simple as having Ss use different tools based on needs and as complicated as each S having their own instructional plan. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KCintheNYC
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:11 PM EDT
    Q2: What do you (or would you like to) do to create a learning environment that focuses on interest / passion driven learning? #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:12 PM EDT
    It’s soooooo exciting when you see them find the thing that Inspires them. Our role changes dramatically at that point as we step back. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @BenSpieldenner
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:12 PM EDT
    A2: My 8th grade game design and development course is completely choice based. Students choose quests from a variety of learning pathways. They have choice regarding the game they develop, the tool they use, etc. #lifelongKDG
  • KCintheNYC Mar 15 @ 7:12 PM EDT
    For sure! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KronbergToolbox
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:12 PM EDT
    Truth #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @BenSpieldenner, @KCintheNYC
  • KCintheNYC Mar 15 @ 7:12 PM EDT
    #lifelongKDG putting the hashtag so others can see this!
    • KronbergToolbox Mar 15 @ 7:12 PM EDT
      ...I need to personalize the learning to their emotional needs so they can start to feel successful as readers and writers. My use of 3D GameLab the past year and a half has greatly contributed to that.
      In reply to @KCintheNYC
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:13 PM EDT
    A2: I provide a rich learning environment with tons of resources (game systems, VR hardware, game development software, tabletop games) and flexible seating to provide opportunities for students to explore, learn, and collaborate. #lifelongKDG
  • BenSpieldenner Mar 15 @ 7:13 PM EDT
    A2: I am designing a course for next year in which students write proposals for their end unit projects. These projects are based on games, they get to choose which game too. #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:13 PM EDT
    Love his answer. How do you set up an environment that truly supports student-led? #lifelongkdg
    • mrsfigmakes Mar 15 @ 7:10 PM EDT
      A1) Personalized learning is student-led and teacher-supported. It fosters curiosity and individuality. It is not one-on-one skill-based tutoring or sophisticated software. #LifelongKDG
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:13 PM EDT
    A2 - I like the sandbox approach that is discussed in the book. How can we create environments that are low entry, but wide possibility? I think easiest 1st step, could be as simple as changing from "write an essay" to "figure out how *you* want to respond to this. #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:13 PM EDT
    Amen! #lifelongkdg
    • mpilakow Mar 15 @ 7:10 PM EDT
      A1: Giving Ss opportunities to learn through some of their own choices and interests #lifelongkdg
  • MckennaJ72 Mar 15 @ 7:13 PM EDT
    #lifelongkdg A2. Great question. I think you have to establish a culture of trust in the classroom. Ss have to be able to fail fast and be encouraged to iterate on what they are passionate about. After this culture is established, you can look at curriculum.
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:14 PM EDT
    Tristan! #lifelongKDG. Share something you are passionate about
    In reply to @MrMillerReads
  • mpilakow Mar 15 @ 7:14 PM EDT
    A2: Build in different options for Ss--not all have to do the same thing. Also, allow for Ss to choose topics for writing and books for reading. #lifelongkdg
  • KCintheNYC Mar 15 @ 7:14 PM EDT
    Do they also get to choose how they make the game, like the medium? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @BenSpieldenner
  • MrMillerReads Mar 15 @ 7:14 PM EDT
    A2 Creating a new STEAM class with minecraft, robots, building stuff, rocketry, making games - teach them the basics to meet requirements and let them go where they want. #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:15 PM EDT
    #3dgamelab! I had dinner with @lisadawley the other night in Austin at #sxswedu :) #lifelongKDG
    • KronbergToolbox Mar 15 @ 7:12 PM EDT
      ...I need to personalize the learning to their emotional needs so they can start to feel successful as readers and writers. My use of 3D GameLab the past year and a half has greatly contributed to that.
      In reply to @KCintheNYC
  • mpilakow Mar 15 @ 7:15 PM EDT
    YOu make a great point, Jason. Culture and trust come first. If Ss are afraid to fail, they'll never get that kindergarten playful experience #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MckennaJ72
  • mrsfigmakes Mar 15 @ 7:15 PM EDT
    A2) Our makerspaces give students this opportunity. Ss have access to all types of materials. I find teachers are comfortable taking a back seat in this space. I hope to see this type of learning move into all of the classrooms. #LifelongKDG
  • KronbergToolbox Mar 15 @ 7:15 PM EDT
    A2) I feel I need to deprogram Ss to realize that their choices are valued. I try to create quests that accomplish my objective, but use different literature and appeal to different learning styles. #lifelongKDG
  • BenSpieldenner Mar 15 @ 7:16 PM EDT
    Nope...it is titled Technical Writing Through Games. I have the major writings already set. They determine how they approach the end goal of writing the technical piece. They also determine which resource they use (XBox, Switch, Steam, VR, Board Game) #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KCintheNYC
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:16 PM EDT
    Yes! I always tell friends who want to learn a new CS language - pick a tutorial, and then as soon as you get to a point where you think "Hmm, I wonder if..." that's where you stop following the tutorial and follow your own path. Use tutorial to start, then veer off #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MrMillerReads
  • MckennaJ72 Mar 15 @ 7:17 PM EDT
    Correct. When I started teaching (over 20 years ago) you taught everything to mastery. There was no, "fail fast". It's a paradigm shift for many Ts that they have to be supported and trained in. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mpilakow
  • HumResPro Mar 15 @ 7:17 PM EDT
    A2: It may be self-promoting, but we created a resource just like this for our classrooms!: https://t.co/yZy5bPGCAJ #lifelongKDG #restorehumanity
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:17 PM EDT
    So excited to follow your journey! #lifelongKDG
    • BenSpieldenner Mar 15 @ 7:13 PM EDT
      A2: I am designing a course for next year in which students write proposals for their end unit projects. These projects are based on games, they get to choose which game too. #lifelongKDG
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:17 PM EDT
    And if you asked a K student if they failed today, they'd probably look at you blankly. Most don't see their trial & error play as "failing." It's just how you do it. :) #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mpilakow, @MckennaJ72
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:18 PM EDT
    Q3:Gamification often relies on extrinsic rewards (points, badges, etc.) to motivate students. Research shows that intrinsic reward is more motivating in terms of continued interest in participation. What are your thoughts on #gamification in Education? #lifelongKDG
  • BenSpieldenner Mar 15 @ 7:18 PM EDT
    You started this train...and now it is full speed ahead. Never been more excited about where I am headed in my teaching career. #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mpilakow Mar 15 @ 7:18 PM EDT
    I like how you use "deprogram." Our system trains kids that everything is graded that they don't remember school being any other way! #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @KronbergToolbox
  • MckennaJ72 Mar 15 @ 7:18 PM EDT
    Very interesting #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @BenSpieldenner, @KCintheNYC
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:18 PM EDT
    Looks great! Glad to see resources out there to help guide people getting started. #lifelongkdg
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:18 PM EDT
    I don't think fail fast does not mean skip mastery. I actually think fail fast means getting to mastery faster. Just accepting that failure is part of the journey. #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @MckennaJ72, @mpilakow
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:19 PM EDT
    It’s pure awesomeness and you’re just the person to make it an incredible experience for the kids. #lifelongkdg
    • BenSpieldenner Mar 15 @ 7:18 PM EDT
      You started this train...and now it is full speed ahead. Never been more excited about where I am headed in my teaching career. #lifelongkdg
      In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:20 PM EDT
    A3: I am a fan of #gamification done right. I definitely agree with the concerns and feel that when we are only speaking of points, badges, etc. we are missing a key point. In my class, choice based learning is at the core of the #gamified experience #passionEDU #lifelongKDG
  • BenSpieldenner Mar 15 @ 7:20 PM EDT
    A3: This is an area I have not explored much, but will be over the next year. I like the idea of experience points over grades...the journey over the destination. #lifelongkdg
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:18 PM EDT
      Q3:Gamification often relies on extrinsic rewards (points, badges, etc.) to motivate students. Research shows that intrinsic reward is more motivating in terms of continued interest in participation. What are your thoughts on #gamification in Education? #lifelongKDG
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:20 PM EDT
    A3 - let me repeat myself from last night :) #lifelongkdg https://t.co/sNgfoY33cZ
  • KCintheNYC Mar 15 @ 7:20 PM EDT
    Oh, I really like this. I've always struggled with translating the fail fast idea to the classroom and the school context #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MusingsOnEdTech, @MckennaJ72, @mpilakow
  • KronbergToolbox Mar 15 @ 7:20 PM EDT
    #lifelongkdg I was asked by my principal last year how what I am doing is preparing my students when they go back to their *real* English classes.
    In reply to @mpilakow
  • MrMillerReads Mar 15 @ 7:20 PM EDT
    I just don't see how to create a COMPLETE choice - based class with the state requirements. #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:20 PM EDT
    Don’t forget the #lifelongKDG hashtag so the others in the chat can see your answer.
    • HumResPro Mar 15 @ 7:18 PM EDT
      A1: Personalized learning requires that students move at their own pace, but more importantly: on their own time. The question then is: how do we make students want to use their time to learn with us?
      In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:21 PM EDT
    oh yuck. :( #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KronbergToolbox, @mpilakow
  • KronbergToolbox Mar 15 @ 7:22 PM EDT
    That's a legitimate conflict. When administration expects a certain curriculum developed they can often be more concerned with what and not the quality of how. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MrMillerReads
  • mrsfigmakes Mar 15 @ 7:22 PM EDT
    A3) This is an area I don't have much experience in. I know many students are passionate about it, so I'm interested in reading the replies on this one. Lots of experts to learn from on the #LifelongKDG chat!
  • mpilakow Mar 15 @ 7:22 PM EDT
    You can't. There are things that kids don't know that they don't know. And there are some things they need to know how to do (say, form an argument) that maybe they don't want to, but we as teachers know they need it. #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @MrMillerReads
  • MrMillerReads Mar 15 @ 7:22 PM EDT
    A3 I believe if we are devoted to true game based learning that gamification is unnecessary. It loses effectiveness over time. #lifelongKDG
  • MckennaJ72 Mar 15 @ 7:22 PM EDT
    Agree with this point. Great games have a narrative that intrinsically motivates users to continue, just like watching a good movie. If educational games are designed well and present authentic learning opportunities, they are great. #lifelongKDG
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:23 PM EDT
    I think we often misjudge/don't properly appreciate how much can be learned from choice. We like the control of knowing task A checks off x,y,z. But, at the end of the day, Ss usually dive deeper & learn *way* more from their self directed activities than class. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MrMillerReads
  • mpilakow Mar 15 @ 7:24 PM EDT
    Sigh. I'd wager that your kids are accomplishing more in your English classroom than the "real" ones. #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @KronbergToolbox
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:24 PM EDT
    And do remember there is a distinct difference between #gbl (game based learning) and #gamification #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @MckennaJ72
  • mrsfigmakes Mar 15 @ 7:24 PM EDT
    A3) We have a class where students can create an invention of their choice. This group felt like gamers needed their own theme park. They used concepts from @Blizzard_Ent to design one. #LifelongKDG
  • KronbergToolbox Mar 15 @ 7:24 PM EDT
    Many still run the old programs, as if asking students to write an analytical paragraph about "The Monkey's Paw" in 42 minutes is "real" #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @BenSpieldenner, @mpilakow
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:25 PM EDT
    Q4:Instead of #gamification @mres suggests students should be engaged in “hard fun” and projects they care about. What does “hard fun” look like in your classroom? #lifelongKDG
  • mpilakow Mar 15 @ 7:25 PM EDT
    A3: Gamification can be fun and build culture, thus it becomes motivating on a deeper level. But poor gamification is simply taking the old lame game of school and making it a new lame game #lifelongkdg
  • MckennaJ72 Mar 15 @ 7:25 PM EDT
    Great point #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:26 PM EDT
    A4: When kids get excited about creating their own games the #hardfun becomes very apparent. I get an occasional email from a parent asking why I give so much homework. I have to respond that I don't assign homework - your child is just really motivated :) #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:26 PM EDT
    I am such a proponent of choice based learning. I’ve seen it lead to wonderful opportunities for students including becoming s published author starting to write a book on game programming in grade 8, publishing in grade 9. #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @MusingsOnEdTech, @MrMillerReads
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:26 PM EDT
    I'm always amazed by how many people, after 12+ years of education (many university graduates) still don't know *how they learn*! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MrMillerReads
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:26 PM EDT
    This is pretty epic! #lifelongKDG
    • mrsfigmakes Mar 15 @ 7:24 PM EDT
      A3) We have a class where students can create an invention of their choice. This group felt like gamers needed their own theme park. They used concepts from @Blizzard_Ent to design one. #LifelongKDG
  • KronbergToolbox Mar 15 @ 7:27 PM EDT
    A3) The book's point about gamificiation raises a dilemma for me as I have seen its effectiveness in my room. but I see the issues of student's motivation being solely extrinsic. #lifelongKDG
  • BenSpieldenner Mar 15 @ 7:27 PM EDT
    A4: Hard fun is perseverance. I love seeing kids jump in with two feet and figure it out as they go...there is failure along the way but it leads to success. #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:28 PM EDT
    Exactly! I call that kind of #gamification pointification, synonymous with school. #lifelongkdg
    • mpilakow Mar 15 @ 7:25 PM EDT
      A3: Gamification can be fun and build culture, thus it becomes motivating on a deeper level. But poor gamification is simply taking the old lame game of school and making it a new lame game #lifelongkdg
  • KCintheNYC Mar 15 @ 7:28 PM EDT
    Yeah, what is real anyway? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mpilakow, @KronbergToolbox
  • MatthewFarber Mar 15 @ 7:28 PM EDT
    I've don't espouse gamification w/points & leaderboards, even in #GamifyYourClassroom. I champion, in that book and in #GBLinAction https://t.co/4espEshaB4, teachers setting up playful affordances to self-express through play, by quests or classroom stations. #LifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs, @mres, @MrPowley, @mrmatera
  • MckennaJ72 Mar 15 @ 7:28 PM EDT
    #lifelongkdg A4. I view hard fun as iteration. I think students engaged in the iterative process on a project they care about is powerful thing, for both Ss and Ts.
  • KCintheNYC Mar 15 @ 7:29 PM EDT
    That's soooo funny! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:29 PM EDT
    Yeah, I relate to that feeling but remember #3dgamelab bad quest / choice based learning at the core. The point aspect is not the sole driving force. #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @KronbergToolbox
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:29 PM EDT
    It's because of #hardfun that I got a PhD. I love diving in deep on passion projects and learning more and more. I know when I'm engaged - I hit the flow mentioned in the book. And it's almost always because of a #hardfun project. #lifelongkdg
  • mrsfigmakes Mar 15 @ 7:29 PM EDT
    A4) As an admin, my students are the Ts. #hardfun for me is engaging them in tinkering sessions, breakout boxes, and design challenges. I learn so much about them in these experiences. #LifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    Yeah, what Matt said. #lifelongkdg
  • MatthewFarber Mar 15 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    My findings in https://t.co/4espEsyLsC demonstrate how games and play are Montessorian in upper grades. @mr_isaacs, @PaulDarvasi, and @PeggySheehy all teach the way @mres envisions. Games > gamification. #LifelongKDG
  • KCintheNYC Mar 15 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    Is there a way to combine the two? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KronbergToolbox
  • MckennaJ72 Mar 15 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    Ha. Pointification is a great term. Consider it stolen. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    Yes and true story, my favorite word in the English language is Iterative! #iterationnation @PBJellyGames @Garlicsuter #lifelongkdg
    • MckennaJ72 Mar 15 @ 7:28 PM EDT
      #lifelongkdg A4. I view hard fun as iteration. I think students engaged in the iterative process on a project they care about is powerful thing, for both Ss and Ts.
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    So cool. One of my favourite young adult authors is Gordon Korman (https://t.co/bGxSbAD83e). He wrote his first at 13 as a grade 7 project. Hilarious books that I always recommend. Especially the Bruno and Boots books and "I want to go home." #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs, @MrMillerReads
  • KronbergToolbox Mar 15 @ 7:31 PM EDT
    I agree. Moving my students to see writing as iterative has been hard, but rewarding. I'm continuing to work on adding the fun to it by trying to encourage them to find the projects they care about. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MckennaJ72
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    Q5: Mitch Resnick @mres speaks about the Computer Clubhouse, an extracurricular activity that embraces student interest at the core. How can we bring this concept into the school day? #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    Can you imagine how torturous getting your PhD would be without the drive and passion ? #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @MusingsOnEdTech
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    #flattered #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @MckennaJ72
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:32 PM EDT
    It was so torturous *with* the passion. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    A5: Let's create truly engaging learning environments that make kids WANT to be at school. The learning value of the Computer Clubhouse seems to be proven effective. We can learn from it's design what is possible with student driven learning #lifelongKDG
  • MatthewFarber Mar 15 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    A4 Poor gamification also is rote learning called games (quiz games), and even class rewards called games. Good games are where players use metacognition to think about game as designed system (Gee, 2007). Best to have Ss play actual COTS games, reflect, then make #lifelongkdg
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    I was contacted by the publisher and realized I was not equipped to author the book. My student was learning GML (game maker language) as is 20% time project. I proposed that we co-author it. Fortunately they agreed. The student did he heavy lifting for sure! #lifelongkdg
    • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:31 PM EDT
      So cool. One of my favourite young adult authors is Gordon Korman (https://t.co/bGxSbAD83e). He wrote his first at 13 as a grade 7 project. Hilarious books that I always recommend. Especially the Bruno and Boots books and "I want to go home." #lifelongKDG
      In reply to @mr_isaacs, @MrMillerReads
  • KronbergToolbox Mar 15 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    A5) For me the biggest obstacle to bringing this attitude to the school day are the parameters and restrictions imposed by mandated curriculum. It requires a great mindshift for others outside that classroom to buy in to what you are trying to do. #lifelongKDG
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    A5 - This reminded me of what I've heard about #geniushour. I loved school, but I would've loved it more, stayed longer, if there was time to just explore/experiment with everything that was there. #lifelongKDG
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:32 PM EDT
      Q5: Mitch Resnick @mres speaks about the Computer Clubhouse, an extracurricular activity that embraces student interest at the core. How can we bring this concept into the school day? #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    Hah. I’m sure!! #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @MusingsOnEdTech
  • mpilakow Mar 15 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    A5: Ss should be creating, and when we plan learning around the idea of creation, so many choices become available--what to create, how to create it, what the topic should be. #lifelongKDG
  • MrMillerReads Mar 15 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    A5: clubs! My students thrive when there is no curriculum - game club, book club, robotics... anytime my passions collide with a childs, I'm in. #lifelongKDG
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    My question as I was reading about the computer clubhouse, was the mentor/teacher to student ratio. How easy/possible would it be to create those right in a school? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • KCintheNYC Mar 15 @ 7:36 PM EDT
    I went to a public Montessori school for grades 2-5 and can totally see how hands-on, manipulatives, and "games" are better as well. I wonder how we get back to the games over gamification? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MatthewFarber, @mr_isaacs, @PaulDarvasi, @PeggySheehy, @mres
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:36 PM EDT
    This seems to be the biggest obstacle. Can’t wait til we truly reinvent what school can be. Need to tear the whole thing down and start from scratch (no pun intended) #lifelongkdg
    • KronbergToolbox Mar 15 @ 7:34 PM EDT
      A5) For me the biggest obstacle to bringing this attitude to the school day are the parameters and restrictions imposed by mandated curriculum. It requires a great mindshift for others outside that classroom to buy in to what you are trying to do. #lifelongKDG
  • mpilakow Mar 15 @ 7:36 PM EDT
    Especially if admin is not behind you being innovative, which sounds like is the case. Without that, you're truly an island :( #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @KronbergToolbox
  • mrsfigmakes Mar 15 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    A4) For us, it started in electives. Teachers in these courses generally have less "academic" standards and feel more flexible in their content and pedagogy. I am starting to see core instruction Ts trying projects and using the variety of tools they have access to. #LifelongKDG
  • KCintheNYC Mar 15 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    What @mr_isaacs said #lifelongKDG. Stealing his ideas and his stealing of ideas.
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:34 PM EDT
      A5: Let's create truly engaging learning environments that make kids WANT to be at school. The learning value of the Computer Clubhouse seems to be proven effective. We can learn from it's design what is possible with student driven learning #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    Can we bring the clubs into the school day and not just extracurricular? #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @MrMillerReads
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    Clubs can be good, but they can also be so limiting based on school location and other responsibilities of the kids. I always wished clubs could have time *during* the school day (but not necessarily over lunch). #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MrMillerReads
  • MckennaJ72 Mar 15 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    Agreed. And even better if we can incorporate them into the school day, as opposed to after school. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MrMillerReads
  • KCintheNYC Mar 15 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    Do you have support from admin? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KronbergToolbox
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    Stop reading my mind! :P #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs, @MrMillerReads
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    Valid point for sure. Perhaps peer mentoring can help. Also I think when the kids drive the learning they can become more self directed (not always so easy, but ideally) ... lots of thoughts here. #lifelongkdg
    • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:35 PM EDT
      My question as I was reading about the computer clubhouse, was the mentor/teacher to student ratio. How easy/possible would it be to create those right in a school? #lifelongKDG
      In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    Q6:Papert speaks of hard fun and Csiikzentmihalyi speaks of flow (being completely absorbed in an activity). How can we balance challenge of ‘getting through curriculum’ with flow and hard fun? #lifelongKDGfun? #lifelongKDG
  • KronbergToolbox Mar 15 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    #lifelongkdg I feel like most of US education is still stuck in the era of creating good factory workers who will do as they're told. As if they say: "Think differently, as long as it's the way I told you to think differently."
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    Okay, that makes three of us reading minds... #lifelongKDG :)
    In reply to @MckennaJ72, @MrMillerReads
  • KCintheNYC Mar 15 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    Good question, I was also wondering about what kinds of expertise those people are bringing #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MusingsOnEdTech, @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:39 PM EDT
    I continually feel horrible when I think back to seeing kids enter public school from Montessori and felt they couldn’t adjust to school. Well, the problem wasn’t them. It was us. #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @KCintheNYC, @MatthewFarber, @PaulDarvasi, @PeggySheehy, @mres
  • MckennaJ72 Mar 15 @ 7:40 PM EDT
    I've seen many robotics clubs around the world engage parents and professionals into these mentoring roles. Many organizations then encourage these mentors. #lifelongKDG https://t.co/sieaLEj9vg
    In reply to @MusingsOnEdTech, @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    A6: It is our responsibility to make learning relevant to our students. There may be effort upfront to create this environment but the dividends are huge! #lifelongKDG #passionEDU
  • BenSpieldenner Mar 15 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    A6: Honestly..GAMING! Either using off the shelf, commercial games, or games designed to be used in the education sector...flow is a given, and so much curriculum can be explored through gaming. It requires a complete rethinking of the classroom. #lifelongKDG
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:39 PM EDT
      Q6:Papert speaks of hard fun and Csiikzentmihalyi speaks of flow (being completely absorbed in an activity). How can we balance challenge of ‘getting through curriculum’ with flow and hard fun? #lifelongKDGfun? #lifelongKDG
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    Teaching Ts to become mentors I think will be a crucial step forward. While complementary, it's not the exact same skill set as being a T. And definitely requires practice and skill development become good at it. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KCintheNYC, @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    For me it started as an after school club, then moved into our G&T program and finally a self sustained game development program. Prove efficacy and then anything is possible. #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @mrsfigmakes
  • mpilakow Mar 15 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    A6: Self-paced, quest-based learning. When Ss control their pace, they're more likely to stay in "FLOW"--they have control over the pace and the path to complete the learning #lifelongkdg
  • KronbergToolbox Mar 15 @ 7:41 PM EDT
    #lifelongkdg The thing is, there is support for my doing what I'm doing and is happy, but still locked in the old mindset of what a "real" English class is and whether the successes in my classroom translate to state assessment successes.
    In reply to @mpilakow
  • KCintheNYC Mar 15 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    I haven't adjusted well to life afterwards lol. But it was truly an amazing start for me and I think the foundation for what I hope is a lifelong passion for learning #lifelongKDG
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:39 PM EDT
      I continually feel horrible when I think back to seeing kids enter public school from Montessori and felt they couldn’t adjust to school. Well, the problem wasn’t them. It was us. #lifelongkdg
      In reply to @KCintheNYC, @MatthewFarber, @PaulDarvasi, @PeggySheehy, @mres
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    Smart minds... #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @MusingsOnEdTech, @MrMillerReads
  • mpilakow Mar 15 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    Agreed. This is becoming an area I find myself working on more and more. How can I better help other teachers #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MusingsOnEdTech, @KCintheNYC, @mr_isaacs
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    A6 - Stop scheduling the day into tiny chunks of time. You can't get into the flow in 20 minutes. I keep reading about people working needing 3hrs set aside to get "real" work done (and have flow). Kids need large chunks of time too. #lifelongKDG
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:39 PM EDT
      Q6:Papert speaks of hard fun and Csiikzentmihalyi speaks of flow (being completely absorbed in an activity). How can we balance challenge of ‘getting through curriculum’ with flow and hard fun? #lifelongKDGfun? #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:43 PM EDT
    Yeah. Glad all our students are leaving and going right to work in those factories. #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @KronbergToolbox
  • BenSpieldenner Mar 15 @ 7:43 PM EDT
    We need to talk. I teach English as well....we have a lot to talk about. Been there...done that. But I am teaching an English class using almost only games next year! Skype? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KronbergToolbox, @mpilakow
  • MrMillerReads Mar 15 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    A6: gaming, yes, but we can't game everything. I think students love creating and working with others. Stop providing rubrics and see what they can do. #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    So great to involve the community. I love to bring industry professionals to my students via @Skype @SkypeClassroom to share their experience and passion. Some have even mentored students. #lifelongkdg
    • MckennaJ72 Mar 15 @ 7:40 PM EDT
      I've seen many robotics clubs around the world engage parents and professionals into these mentoring roles. Many organizations then encourage these mentors. #lifelongKDG https://t.co/sieaLEj9vg
      In reply to @MusingsOnEdTech, @mr_isaacs
  • KronbergToolbox Mar 15 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    I'd definitely like to continue the conversation with you. #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @BenSpieldenner, @mpilakow
  • KCintheNYC Mar 15 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    Yeah, I worry about afterschool not being accessible to every child #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MckennaJ72, @MrMillerReads
  • MckennaJ72 Mar 15 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    #lifelongkdg A6. I think the challenge is to create robust engagements that also have enough structure so Ss have clear goals, feel they can be successful and get timely and targeted feedback. I think then you can have hard fun and flow. #lifelongKDG
  • mpilakow Mar 15 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    Any data that you can show them now? I do understand their worry about state assessments, but maybe once they see that this format works, too, they'll be less anxious? #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @KronbergToolbox
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    Love me some flow and hard fun. #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @BenSpieldenner
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    And we *shouldn't* game everything. The moment their entire life becomes a game, they'll become more interested in instructor led learning. Okay, maybe not that extreme, but it will lose a lot of it's effectiveness. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MrMillerReads
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    Q7: @mres describes student learning experience where girls were “supported by team of creative & caring mentors, who asked questions as often as provided answers.” What questioning techniques do you use in your classroom to engage students in meaningful dialogue? #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    Yes! The role of educators can and should change to that of mentor, compass and guide as I believe @BenSpieldenner says #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @MusingsOnEdTech, @KCintheNYC, @BenSpieldenner
  • MckennaJ72 Mar 15 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    Yes, especially in very urban and very rural districts where it may take Ss 2 hours to get home #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KCintheNYC, @MrMillerReads
  • mrsfigmakes Mar 15 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    A6) It takes a lot of brainstorming and planning to find those authentic, REAL, applications of the skills we're hoping students obtain from the experience. Many Ts did not have those type of learning experiences as Ss. They need resources and support to take risks. #LIfelongKDG
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:47 PM EDT
    It takes a lot of trust to move to mentor and be able to step back and let Ss make decisions and guide themselves. But hey, they won't have Ts and Ps there at every step (and we shouldn't want them to need that). So, sooner is better. :) #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs, @KCintheNYC, @BenSpieldenner
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:47 PM EDT
    Well - look at you now. I think it contributed to that spark and that nontraditional approach to teaching and learning. I think it served you well. Who wants to “adjust” anyway? #lifelongkdg
    • KCintheNYC Mar 15 @ 7:42 PM EDT
      I haven't adjusted well to life afterwards lol. But it was truly an amazing start for me and I think the foundation for what I hope is a lifelong passion for learning #lifelongKDG
      • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:39 PM EDT
        I continually feel horrible when I think back to seeing kids enter public school from Montessori and felt they couldn’t adjust to school. Well, the problem wasn’t them. It was us. #lifelongkdg
        In reply to @KCintheNYC, @MatthewFarber, @PaulDarvasi, @PeggySheehy, @mres
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    A7: I have students reflect on all activities as part of their blog post submission. I provide leading questions that have them think about what learning took place and provide opportunity for them to demonstrate their understanding. Leads to feedback loop #lifelongKDG
  • mpilakow Mar 15 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    A7: I like to keep it open. "Tell me about what you're doing." As they start talking, more questions arise from there. The more one-on-one, the more I learn about student learning #lifelongkdg
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:46 PM EDT
      Q7: @mres describes student learning experience where girls were “supported by team of creative & caring mentors, who asked questions as often as provided answers.” What questioning techniques do you use in your classroom to engage students in meaningful dialogue? #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    This! I would love to have my students for longer periods of time. My kids would love it too. I think we need to drop the whole need for isolated subjects in school. Let kids specialize! #lifelongkdg
    • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:42 PM EDT
      A6 - Stop scheduling the day into tiny chunks of time. You can't get into the flow in 20 minutes. I keep reading about people working needing 3hrs set aside to get "real" work done (and have flow). Kids need large chunks of time too. #lifelongKDG
      • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:39 PM EDT
        Q6:Papert speaks of hard fun and Csiikzentmihalyi speaks of flow (being completely absorbed in an activity). How can we balance challenge of ‘getting through curriculum’ with flow and hard fun? #lifelongKDGfun? #lifelongKDG
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    A7 - I find when it's tempting to give an answer, to try to give a resource instead. Even if the resource is essentially the answer, the S will feel more ownership of learning and accepting the answer, and be more encouraged to search it out themselves in future. #lifelongKDG
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:46 PM EDT
      Q7: @mres describes student learning experience where girls were “supported by team of creative & caring mentors, who asked questions as often as provided answers.” What questioning techniques do you use in your classroom to engage students in meaningful dialogue? #lifelongKDG
  • KronbergToolbox Mar 15 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    A7) I ask a lot of reflective questions of my Ss. Why did you make that choice? What was your process? What were you thinking? What were you feeling? #lifelongKDG
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    That's a good one. With coding, if I can pick out where the problem is pretty easily, I often have them walk me through that chunk of code. Usually via them explaining it (#rubberduckymethod) they can start to catch their own errors. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mpilakow
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    Glad you two are talking! Two of my favorite people! Ben - I was fortunate enough to work with @KronbergToolbox for years. Lunch hasn’t been the same since! #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @BenSpieldenner, @KronbergToolbox, @mpilakow, @KronbergToolbox
  • KCintheNYC Mar 15 @ 7:51 PM EDT
    How do the students respond? Is it easy for them to engage in meaningful/deep talk? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KronbergToolbox
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:51 PM EDT
    I don't even think it's specializing that we need. If we had longer chunks of time, it'd be easier to do projects that are cross disciplinary. No reason that your science experiment can't involve both arts and English at the same time. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:52 PM EDT
    Q8: Structure & agency are important themes. @mres quotes Brennan who suggests learning environments should “employ structure in a way that amplifies learner agency”. What strategies have you tried to improve student agency in a structured way or otherwise? #lifelongKDG
  • ericaeducator Mar 15 @ 7:52 PM EDT
    Has anyone ever asked their Ss how THEY would create their ideal school/day? I’d love to hear the responses! #lifelongkdg #k12 #edchat
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:52 PM EDT
    And I think we need to truly honor the importance of affinity groups so let’s bring the club idea into the day. The learning will happen in an organic way if we create the right environment and opportunities. #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @KCintheNYC, @MckennaJ72, @MrMillerReads
  • KronbergToolbox Mar 15 @ 7:52 PM EDT
    I have seen in my school, as the blocks of time get longer, that many Ss can't engage that long. Longer blocks won't be effective without updating/modifying the learning activities. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @MusingsOnEdTech
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:52 PM EDT
    I absolutely love that I work remotely (and mostly consult) right now. It's why I could sit on the top of a "mountain" (large hill) and read the book/enjoy the view for 2 hours this afternoon. :) #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mrsfigmakes
  • MckennaJ72 Mar 15 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    I always struggled with this at first, then I would save the last 5-10 minutes of class to highlight some of the really great responses I got during that class. Often Ss don't realize what a meaningful response is until it is modeled for them #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KCintheNYC, @KronbergToolbox
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    Yes, 2 hours to sit and stare a piece of paper where you're suppose to write an essay is no better than 1. But 2 hours to dig into a passion project is way better than 1. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KronbergToolbox
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    Yes! I do this too but hadn’t really thought of it this way. #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @mpilakow
  • mrsfigmakes Mar 15 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    A7) I like to start by asking students to tell me about their work. I ask what is going well and what needs a little more work. Love the honesty of children! At what point do we become fearful of failure, or even feedback? #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:54 PM EDT
    A8: The quest lines in my course are made up of multiple quests to help guide students through the process rather in an incremental manner. All Quests are available through @classcraftgame but only unlocked as they complete prerequisite quests. #lifelongKDG
  • mpilakow Mar 15 @ 7:54 PM EDT
    I totally understand. I set up loose deadlines of when important "must do" tasks need done. Other enrichment quests may have more time or no deadlines. They still have choice of some quests and the order/pace to get them done #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @mrsfigmakes
  • KronbergToolbox Mar 15 @ 7:54 PM EDT
    It's been a slow process. Some of my students this year I am having for the second or third year and I often show/tell them the growth and progress I see in them. When they see me as a mentor, the talk gets more meaningful. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KCintheNYC
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:55 PM EDT
    Or sit down and search for the answer together. I love for my students to see me as a co-learner and help them learn how to learn. They often find the answer quicker as thats how they learn at home anyway. Honor their process. #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @MusingsOnEdTech
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:56 PM EDT
    Yes. I love the "I don't know, let's see if we can find out..." method. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    Good point. I think it would work for my class but there are classes that I would certainly question. Of course if we do structure the time appropriately we can make it work. But again that requires change... #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KronbergToolbox, @MusingsOnEdTech
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:58 PM EDT
    Outro: Please reintroduce yourself - name, location, role and share your key takeaway from tonight’s chat #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:58 PM EDT
    Certainly keeps life interesting for me. We can celebrate figuring it out together. Lots more high 5s with this approach! #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @MusingsOnEdTech
  • MusingsOnEdTech Mar 15 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    It always seems like something that would be easiest in elementary school, where kids generally have the same T for all subjects. And yet, it often feels like those classes are *more* structured between subjects. :( #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs, @KronbergToolbox
  • derrallg Mar 15 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    a8: I think approaches like #geniushour can help amplify agency as it connects with passions which the student has thought over and build on background - late to this chat Derrall Garrison, Cupertino, tech coach #lifelongKDG
  • KCintheNYC Mar 15 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    Big thanks @mr_isaacs for working hard with me every week to come up with questions for this chat. He does so much cool stuff with his students and is always willing to share and inspire others #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 15 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    That hour went fast. Steve from nj. I teach game design and development and learn with my students every day. Takeaway for me is to have questions come more from conversation with students. Doesn’t have to be over planned #lifelongKDG