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MrsMurat Oct 10 @ 3:00 PM EDT

Checkout my resources from GAFE Summit! https://t.co/vrXgja8KBD #asechat

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:00 PM EDT

Welcome to tonight's #ASEChat ! Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on students' science & career aspirations

ViciaScience Oct 10 @ 3:02 PM EDT

@ASPIRES2science I found the bar graph on your home page both encouraging and shocking https://t.co/khKQDHxXKZ #asechat

JonScott46 Oct 10 @ 3:02 PM EDT

Do pupils really make up their mind about STEM, prior to arriving in Y7? #asechat

RickLapi Oct 10 @ 3:03 PM EDT

Looking forward to it. Rick from Wilson SD In West Lawn, PA #ASEChat

ViciaScience Oct 10 @ 3:04 PM EDT

@JonScott46 by the end of year 6 I can understand if they are starting to exclude certain areas from their aspirations #asechat

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:04 PM EDT

@ViciaScience Good news is science teachers are doing great job making science interesting ... #ASEChat

EnterpriseSBox Oct 10 @ 3:05 PM EDT

Some will, majority probably not. #asechat https://t.co/xHkOvnJJ0s

JonScott46 Oct 10 @ 3:02 PM EDT

Do pupils really make up their mind about STEM, prior to arriving in Y7? #asechat

WSDSRCounselor Oct 10 @ 3:05 PM EDT

#ASEchat hopeful about the chat

Science_HOD Oct 10 @ 3:05 PM EDT

@JonScott46 I hope not.#asechat

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:05 PM EDT

@ViciaScience ... the challenge is that this interest doesn't translate into post-16 science participation. #ASEChat

ViciaScience Oct 10 @ 3:05 PM EDT

@RickLapi Hi Rick. Do most students in US aspire to a career in science? #asechat

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:06 PM EDT

@JonScott46 Our research with 30,000+ students in England suggests ideas about science as 'not for me' start in primary #ASEChat

theASE - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:07 PM EDT

What are the key factors from students liking science lessons to considering a #STEM career? #asechat @ASPIRES2science

ViciaScience Oct 10 @ 3:07 PM EDT

@ASPIRES2science Agreed. Many adults too find science interesting - but as a career?? #asechat

RickLapi Oct 10 @ 3:08 PM EDT

@ViciaScience We would guess around 10% of Ss go into a science based field. #ASEChat How about in the UK?

doc_kristy Oct 10 @ 3:08 PM EDT

@JonScott46 really hope not but many lack cultural capital in science #asechat

stevethedoc1 Oct 10 @ 3:08 PM EDT

@ASPIRES2science @JonScott46 #asechat probably because they do not know where it can take them, little careers awareness

theASE - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:09 PM EDT

@ASPIRES2science @JonScott46 #ASEchat does the research suggest solutions for reversing the 'not for me' attitudes?

JonScott46 Oct 10 @ 3:09 PM EDT

@ASPIRES2science #asechat I had read such data a few years ago, it's interesting to see this trend continues

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:09 PM EDT

@theASE Many factors are at play - but a key one is how much 'science capital' a student has. #sciencecapital #ASEChat

ViciaScience Oct 10 @ 3:10 PM EDT

Great question - can you help with an answer @ASPIRES2science ? #ASEChat https://t.co/u1ffPSUReH

RickLapi Oct 10 @ 3:08 PM EDT

@ViciaScience We would guess around 10% of Ss go into a science based field. #ASEChat How about in the UK?

BenRogersEdu Oct 10 @ 3:10 PM EDT

Hi all - I'm assuming everyone has read this about science capital and career choice: https://t.co/4hRWFApCPp #asechat

phizlab_SSP Oct 10 @ 3:10 PM EDT

@theASE @ASPIRES2science Getting to know STEM role models - real people who they want to be like seems really influential #ASEchat

stevethedoc1 Oct 10 @ 3:10 PM EDT

@ViciaScience #asechat most have not seen science as a career option during primary, only use science in class but interesting

oboelizzy Oct 10 @ 3:10 PM EDT

@ASPIRES2science @ViciaScience how do you define 'science participation'? #asechat

massignmenthelp Oct 10 @ 3:10 PM EDT

6 Emerging Education Technologies https://t.co/h2R5Lg4Aur #asechat

Science_HOD Oct 10 @ 3:10 PM EDT

Most people on my biochemistry degree course became accountants #STEM fail #ASEchat

theASE - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:10 PM EDT

@stevethedoc1 @ASPIRES2science @JonScott46 is careers awareness the whole solution? Are there other factors at play? #asechat

phizlab_SSP Oct 10 @ 3:11 PM EDT

@ASPIRES2science @theASE involving parents in Science education helps to grow Science Capital #ASEChat

ViciaScience Oct 10 @ 3:11 PM EDT

@stevethedoc1 and does the trend towards Y6 focus on numeracy / literacy have a damaging effect on science aspirations? #asechat

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:11 PM EDT

@stevethedoc1 @JonScott46 Agreed - most students in our study only see science as 'for me' if aspire to be doctor or scientist #ASEChat

stevethedoc1 Oct 10 @ 3:11 PM EDT

@ASPIRES2science @theASE #asechat and ask primary children what jobs they could do when grown up, few mention those with science

BenRogersEdu Oct 10 @ 3:11 PM EDT

I'd like to know people's views on whether narratives (biographies & fiction) about scientists could top-up kids' science capital? #asechat

oboelizzy Oct 10 @ 3:12 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @ASPIRES2science @RickLapi #asechat surely we must be interested in Sci capabilities of all not just those that go to sci-jobs

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:12 PM EDT

on my reading list! #asechat https://t.co/2sY0TlxxNP

BenRogersEdu Oct 10 @ 3:10 PM EDT

Hi all - I'm assuming everyone has read this about science capital and career choice: https://t.co/4hRWFApCPp #asechat

ViciaScience Oct 10 @ 3:12 PM EDT

@stevethedoc1 I guess a lot of secondary students also do not have clear ideas of careers in science until post 16 #asechat

Newmanphysics Oct 10 @ 3:12 PM EDT

@theASE @ASPIRES2science #asechat large percentage of our A level physics students have chosen the subject as a route to engineering career

theASE - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:12 PM EDT

@BenRogersEdu thanks for the link. If anyone would like to share links on #sciencecapital and YP #STEM aspiration please use #ASEchat

phizlab_SSP Oct 10 @ 3:13 PM EDT

#asechat This year's @scichallenge looks like a great way to get children thinking about the huge range of STEM careers

teacherchalky1 Oct 10 @ 3:13 PM EDT

OCR A2 Biology Communication, Homeostasis & Energy Lessons via @tesResources https://t.co/P5iUyiEns4 #ukedchat #edchat #asechat #nqtchat

jesswade Oct 10 @ 3:13 PM EDT

@BenRogersEdu I'm sure @blittlelabs would have something to say about that... #asechat

oboelizzy Oct 10 @ 3:13 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @stevethedoc1 #asechat we should be aiming for numeracy + literacy to be taught through+with science

stevethedoc1 Oct 10 @ 3:14 PM EDT

@ASPIRES2science @JonScott46 #asechat recent ask across 4 ks2 classes revealed a total of 4 jobs cited none science based

SteveTeachPhys Oct 10 @ 3:14 PM EDT

@Newmanphysics @theASE @ASPIRES2science same here #asechat

ViciaScience Oct 10 @ 3:14 PM EDT

@BenRogersEdu Look at Futuremorph clips to see non scientists comment on the importance of science in their chosen careers #asechat

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:14 PM EDT

@BenRogersEdu Could do - but we advocate more emphasis on conveying science as useful for ANY career ie. show how transferable #ASEChat

theASE - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:15 PM EDT

@massignmenthelp everyone is respectfully reminded not to tweet off-topic during #ASEchat mondays 8-9pm GMT

jesswade Oct 10 @ 3:15 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @stevethedoc1 optimistic- I doubt most university graduates know about all the careers they could have #asechat

JonScott46 Oct 10 @ 3:15 PM EDT

@BenRogersEdu #asechat I'm absolutely certain. Using drama/roleplay activities in KS3 & KS4 science works well. Any data on this?

A_Weatherall - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:15 PM EDT

#asechat it's great to find out career aspirations of students as it can help you inspire them (esp. if reluctant) in science lessons.

BenRogersEdu Oct 10 @ 3:15 PM EDT

.@ASPIRES2science Is there any research on whether narratives (e.g. biographies) can suppliment science capital for young people? #asechat

stevethedoc1 Oct 10 @ 3:15 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @BenRogersEdu #asechat also check out 'YES programme' for primary

AssignmentHelpN Oct 10 @ 3:15 PM EDT

Top 5 Emerging EdTech Trends you Must Know in 2016 https://t.co/wcA1uc9Rvu #asechat

Science_HOD Oct 10 @ 3:16 PM EDT

What is this term 'science capital'? Been away too long #ASEchat

ViciaScience Oct 10 @ 3:16 PM EDT

@BenRogersEdu Link to Futuremorph clips of non scientists talking about science content of their career https://t.co/yjig8qy60a #asechat

FarmStokehill Oct 10 @ 3:16 PM EDT

#asechat Encourage pupils to start their thinking from real questions 'How can we feed everyone?' rather than abst… https://t.co/A8VtXs5Gv4

stevethedoc1 Oct 10 @ 3:17 PM EDT

@jesswade @ViciaScience #asechat agreed but we should be extending their awareness so later they can choose from a larger field

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:17 PM EDT

@stevethedoc1 @JonScott46 Top careers from our Y11 survey were business, arts and celebrity! Scientist way down the list #ASEChat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:17 PM EDT

Here here! #asechat https://t.co/qzjVg0JuPd

theASE - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:15 PM EDT

@massignmenthelp everyone is respectfully reminded not to tweet off-topic during #ASEchat mondays 8-9pm GMT

ViciaScience Oct 10 @ 3:17 PM EDT

@oboelizzy @ASPIRES2science @RickLapi Absolutely. Hence science graduates that go on to non science careers should be applauded #asechat

theASE - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:17 PM EDT

@phizlab_SSP @scichallenge is extra-curricular the thing that makes the difference to encouraging #STEM aspirations? #ASEChat

TJohns85 Oct 10 @ 3:18 PM EDT

If there are any south west STEM 'experts' that want to be involved in a county wide science INSET please contact me #asechat

Newmanphysics Oct 10 @ 3:18 PM EDT

@SteveTeachPhys @theASE @ASPIRES2science #asechat We have a lot of students looking at @SalfordAcoustic course https://t.co/NJzkadjQci

ViciaScience Oct 10 @ 3:19 PM EDT

@jesswade @stevethedoc1 Agreed. What is the solution? Rather than list careers more should be made of science skills? #asechat

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:19 PM EDT

@FarmStokehill Great point! We are working with science teachers to link science to kids lives to help engage @EntrerprsingSci #ASEChat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:19 PM EDT

Nice video clip here https://t.co/mxoVUC6NEJ #asechat https://t.co/bFFkRediVk

Science_HOD Oct 10 @ 3:16 PM EDT

What is this term 'science capital'? Been away too long #ASEchat

teachingofsci Oct 10 @ 3:19 PM EDT

Busy sorting 2yo, but just got time for 2 self-links: medical careers to get ks3+ thinking beyond medicine https://t.co/kQ9CDYVYQw #asechat

theASE - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:19 PM EDT

@ASPIRES2science @stevethedoc1 @JonScott46 do you think science not being seen as creative is part of the reason for this? #ASEchat

stevethedoc1 Oct 10 @ 3:19 PM EDT

@theASE @phizlab_SSP @scichallenge #asechat so long as it increases awareness and involves their Mums'

CLEAPSS Oct 10 @ 3:20 PM EDT

New CLP Hazcards are available to pre-order now. https://t.co/pFEpWxHIl9 NB You can only order them online. #ASEChat

Newmanphysics Oct 10 @ 3:20 PM EDT

@theASE @phizlab_SSP @scichallenge #asechat I find at student information evening it is the financial reward that a career in Physics brings

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:20 PM EDT

Future Morph such a great resource, but awareness mostly lost with new science teachers #asechat https://t.co/Jb5tDmCyYF

ViciaScience Oct 10 @ 3:16 PM EDT

@BenRogersEdu Link to Futuremorph clips of non scientists talking about science content of their career https://t.co/yjig8qy60a #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:20 PM EDT

#asechat even non-stem careers (e.g. as child-care) can be supported by a good grade in science. Reminding students of this helpful :)

ViciaScience Oct 10 @ 3:21 PM EDT

Thanks Steve. Sorry you need to keep reminding me #ASEChat https://t.co/oF05lpLk81

stevethedoc1 Oct 10 @ 3:15 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @BenRogersEdu #asechat also check out 'YES programme' for primary

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:21 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 Thanks for the link, Linda! #ASEChat

oboelizzy Oct 10 @ 3:21 PM EDT

@theASE @ASPIRES2science @stevethedoc1 @JonScott46 #asechat if we included more philosophy of Sci could see that sci by defn is creative

phizlab_SSP Oct 10 @ 3:21 PM EDT

@theASE Programmes like FLL Robotics and Destination Imagination have really helped us broaden aspirations #asechat

stevethedoc1 Oct 10 @ 3:21 PM EDT

@theASE @ASPIRES2science @JonScott46 #asechat no just that they do not realise that science is used in so many jobs not just being a scienti

teachingofsci Oct 10 @ 3:22 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @ASPIRES2science @ricklapi a numerical anecdote for you: "A Science Generation" https://t.co/R39Z186Ju5 #asechat

theASE - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:22 PM EDT

Great explainer video on #sciencecapital here #ASEChat https://t.co/MH9Ka0cqgR

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:19 PM EDT
Nice video clip here https://t.co/mxoVUC6NEJ #asechat https://t.co/bFFkRediVk
- Science_HOD Oct 10 @ 3:16 PM EDT
  
  What is this term 'science capital'? Been away too long #ASEchat

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:22 PM EDT

Is careers ed failing science? Those most in need to seem get the least info – what can we do? https://t.co/vcfaKrQZDz #ASEChat

ViciaScience Oct 10 @ 3:23 PM EDT

@Newmanphysics @ASPIRES2science Is the solution to recruit more students to do A level science?Or need to raise career aspirations #asechat

JonScott46 Oct 10 @ 3:23 PM EDT

@BenRogersEdu I loved the PRI Science Roleplay material; made it part if the KS4 curriculum. Lots of +ve role models for science #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:24 PM EDT

and hair and beauty! #asechat https://t.co/RreAZ77oJq

A_Weatherall - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:20 PM EDT

#asechat even non-stem careers (e.g. as child-care) can be supported by a good grade in science. Reminding students of this helpful :)

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:25 PM EDT

AARGH More reading! thanks Lousie #asechat https://t.co/Hh6Mr9bWv4

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:22 PM EDT

Is careers ed failing science? Those most in need to seem get the least info – what can we do? https://t.co/vcfaKrQZDz #ASEChat

MrJHolden Oct 10 @ 3:25 PM EDT

#asechat Surely career aspirations are developed by science teachers getting pupils excited about how content links to the real world?

oboelizzy Oct 10 @ 3:25 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @Newmanphysics @ASPIRES2science #asechat need a more broad+balanced 16+ edu system than current A levels?

KiuSum Oct 10 @ 3:25 PM EDT

Just tuning into the @theASE #ASEChat half way though. Interesting discussions about #science, #aspirations, #careers, #STEM and etc...

jesswade Oct 10 @ 3:25 PM EDT

@Newmanphysics @theASE @phizlab_SSP @scichallenge it's also having the potential to change the world #ASEchat

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:26 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 @A_Weatherall Definitely! Important aspect of science capital that teachers can help develop #ASEChat

stevethedoc1 Oct 10 @ 3:26 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 @A_Weatherall #asechat bring back all that SATIS material across all KS

oboelizzy Oct 10 @ 3:26 PM EDT

All of life enhanced by sci understanding!! #asechat https://t.co/chB1ISzZq8

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:24 PM EDT
and hair and beauty! #asechat https://t.co/RreAZ77oJq
- A_Weatherall - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:20 PM EDT
  
  #asechat even non-stem careers (e.g. as child-care) can be supported by a good grade in science. Reminding students of this helpful :)

ViciaScience Oct 10 @ 3:26 PM EDT

I like the idea of getting pupils to consider real world problems, but from an early age. #asechat https://t.co/GyK6WtoS85

FarmStokehill Oct 10 @ 3:16 PM EDT

#asechat Encourage pupils to start their thinking from real questions 'How can we feed everyone?' rather than abst… https://t.co/A8VtXs5Gv4

doc_kristy Oct 10 @ 3:26 PM EDT

@Science_HOD a general awareness of what science is/does gleaned from everyday experiences within the family (cf cultural capital) #asechat

hrogerson Oct 10 @ 3:27 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 @ASPIRES2science our students are part of futurewise, really good how they broaden career ideas for students. #asechat

MrJHolden Oct 10 @ 3:27 PM EDT

#asechat We have links with university for science club and teachers that have been on industrial placements, all to give career insights

Newmanphysics Oct 10 @ 3:27 PM EDT

@jesswade @theASE @phizlab_SSP @scichallenge #asechat like that a lot Jess, I encourage students to believe they can create that technology

ViciaScience Oct 10 @ 3:27 PM EDT

Would that be only 'STEM Ambassadors' ? #ASEChat https://t.co/dbMglp5bED

TJohns85 Oct 10 @ 3:18 PM EDT

If there are any south west STEM 'experts' that want to be involved in a county wide science INSET please contact me #asechat

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:28 PM EDT

@oboelizzy @ViciaScience @Newmanphysics Great point - IMHO A level system works against widening participation in sci! #ASEChat

jesswade Oct 10 @ 3:28 PM EDT

@Newmanphysics @theASE @phizlab_SSP @scichallenge by doing science where the answer's not in the back of the book! #ASEchat @ResearchInSch

KiuSum Oct 10 @ 3:30 PM EDT

@ASPIRES2science interestingly, I still nowadays feel inspired and motivated even just helping at #science #taster sessions. #asechat

BenRogersEdu Oct 10 @ 3:30 PM EDT

I also wonder the effect that removing the KS2 science SATs has had on younger kids aspirations. It's been a while now. #asechat.

hrogerson Oct 10 @ 3:30 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 @ASPIRES2science just a general careers service, but has given the stdnts lots to think about, even just to dismiss it! #asechat

oboelizzy Oct 10 @ 3:30 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @TJohns85 I know a super young man who is a marine engineer in plymouth who is a stem ambassadorial good? #asechat

Tracy_Tyrrell Oct 10 @ 3:31 PM EDT

@JonScott46 That's why we in primary are trying to get more Gov involvement - too late by the time they reach secondary #asechat

Newmanphysics Oct 10 @ 3:31 PM EDT

@ASPIRES2science @oboelizzy @ViciaScience #asechat There is BTEC for non A level students. We have loads of students enrolled on this also

Tracy_Tyrrell Oct 10 @ 3:31 PM EDT

@JonScott46 Def decide if it interests them or if it's 'too hard' or 'too dull' in primary #asechat

hrogerson Oct 10 @ 3:31 PM EDT

@ASPIRES2science @oboelizzy @ViciaScience @Newmanphysics agreed, you have to commit and at least do one science and maths. #asechat

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:32 PM EDT

@BenRogersEdu Maybe we also need more options (beyond sep sci A levels) for students to continue with post-16? #ASEChat

theASE - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:32 PM EDT

@JonScott46 for KS2 - 'measles alert' roleplay activity explores jobs inc. data analysts to health workers #ASEchat https://t.co/qJ6oRYKE0C

oboelizzy Oct 10 @ 3:33 PM EDT

@BenRogersEdu #asechat interesting thought but shouldn't we be removing all bloody sats !!!

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:33 PM EDT

Agreed! Never too early to start #ASEChat https://t.co/jSZwkij5BU

Tracy_Tyrrell Oct 10 @ 3:31 PM EDT

@JonScott46 That's why we in primary are trying to get more Gov involvement - too late by the time they reach secondary #asechat

Tracy_Tyrrell Oct 10 @ 3:33 PM EDT

@Science_HOD @JonScott46 They do!! If science is taught badly it puts them off for ever! But taught well it can inspire! #asechat.

SpaceCampUK Oct 10 @ 3:33 PM EDT

#asechat @esa Have some great resources on STEM careers https://t.co/qUa9GjUV6j

BenRogersEdu Oct 10 @ 3:34 PM EDT

.@Pi_In_The_Sky Fiction gets readers to relate to characters (bios can be fact heavy in KS2/3), but fiction often untrue to sci #asechat

Newmanphysics Oct 10 @ 3:34 PM EDT

@hrogerson @ASPIRES2science @oboelizzy @ViciaScience #asechat We make all our physics students study A level maths

ViciaScience Oct 10 @ 3:34 PM EDT

But difficult for science teachers to keep up with diversity of science careers available? #ASEchat https://t.co/ouojvTdkZg

MrJHolden Oct 10 @ 3:25 PM EDT

#asechat Surely career aspirations are developed by science teachers getting pupils excited about how content links to the real world?

BenRogersEdu Oct 10 @ 3:35 PM EDT

.@oboelizzy I couldn't possibly comment! But you are right, exams skew teaching and curricula. #asechat

Tracy_Tyrrell Oct 10 @ 3:35 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 @JonScott46 @Stockportslic science has been pushed out due to Gov focus on Maths and Eng - need to reclaim the subject! #asechat

jesswade Oct 10 @ 3:36 PM EDT

@phizlab_SSP we try...! @ResearchInSch @SGSPhysics @YSJournal #ASEChat

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:36 PM EDT

@ViciaScience If we emphasise transferability of science then helps get away from this? No need to be career specialists #ASEChat

Tracy_Tyrrell Oct 10 @ 3:36 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 @JonScott46 @Stockportslic Highlight links and contexts for Eng and Maths, encourage cpd especially for science leads #asechat

JonScott46 Oct 10 @ 3:37 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 @Tracy_Tyrrell @Stockportslic #asechat absolutely! I've run science badges for Cubs and found rampant enthusiasm and curiosity!

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:37 PM EDT

@ViciaScience Could say that England is out of step with most of world - where broader bacc system mostly works well #ASEChat

hrogerson Oct 10 @ 3:38 PM EDT

How important are parents in helping young people chose science careers? #asechat

DrDav Oct 10 @ 3:38 PM EDT

And getting further away with each 'reform' #asechat https://t.co/SGn6j9WsTZ

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:37 PM EDT

@ViciaScience Could say that England is out of step with most of world - where broader bacc system mostly works well #ASEChat

MarcNeesam Oct 10 @ 3:39 PM EDT

@BenRogersEdu @oboelizzy exams don't skew anything by themselves. Teachers making teaching choices because of exams is the issue #asechat

oboelizzy Oct 10 @ 3:39 PM EDT

@ASPIRES2science @ViciaScience #asechat England out of step in more things than just sci ed!!!! 😣

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:39 PM EDT

@hrogerson Our study says v important! If parents promote science then much more likely to plan to do sci post-16 #ASEChat #sciencecapital

stevethedoc1 Oct 10 @ 3:40 PM EDT

@hrogerson #asechat research over a year ago suggested mum was crucial re girls onto science

ViciaScience Oct 10 @ 3:40 PM EDT

@ASPIRES2science time to review work done on diploma a couple of years back? #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:40 PM EDT

@MarcNeesam @BenRogersEdu @oboelizzy a negative effect is less science done in primary. @MichaelT1979 has written about this. #asechat

doc_kristy Oct 10 @ 3:40 PM EDT

@hrogerson hugely important as both + and - influence, can bring their own stereotypes along to influence the child #asechat

DrDav Oct 10 @ 3:40 PM EDT

At parents evening I often hear 'I can't imagine her doing engineering'. Parents vital in choices. #asechat https://t.co/4kgV4MfRzN

hrogerson Oct 10 @ 3:38 PM EDT

How important are parents in helping young people chose science careers? #asechat

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:40 PM EDT

@DrDav Sadly so... sigh #ASEChat

stevethedoc1 Oct 10 @ 3:40 PM EDT

@MarcNeesam @BenRogersEdu @oboelizzy #asechat here! Here!

Tracy_Tyrrell Oct 10 @ 3:40 PM EDT

@ASPIRES2science Two primary projects, @imascientist and @IAEGMOOH really good for encouraging primary into science #asechat

doc_kristy Oct 10 @ 3:40 PM EDT

@hrogerson many parents still believe that smart and good at science = doctor or failing that some flavour of engineer #asechat

jesswade Oct 10 @ 3:41 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @MrJHolden or look at people who do it REALLY well: @Tomorrows_Eng https://t.co/6Jh5V9mVZd ⭐️ https://t.co/SmZxtcPYNA #ASEChat

DrDav Oct 10 @ 3:41 PM EDT

Though that was quite anecdotal evidence I think. #asechat https://t.co/DBeDBpwL3G

stevethedoc1 Oct 10 @ 3:40 PM EDT

@hrogerson #asechat research over a year ago suggested mum was crucial re girls onto science

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:41 PM EDT

@DrDav I think England is worst in world for proportion of professional female Engineers? #ASEChat

jesswade Oct 10 @ 3:42 PM EDT

@Tracy_Tyrrell @ASPIRES2science @imascientist @IAEGMOOH ++ @HelpfulScience @Lab_13Gillespie #ASEChat

doc_kristy Oct 10 @ 3:42 PM EDT

@DrDav @hrogerson I think there is still a challenge for girls in the image of applied fields like engineering (I teach boys) #asechat

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:42 PM EDT

@doc_kristy @hrogerson Agreed - still lots to do to break the science=brainy (=male) stereotype of science #ASEChat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:43 PM EDT

Really? that’s shocking #asechat https://t.co/Suwng6UhfO

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:41 PM EDT

@DrDav I think England is worst in world for proportion of professional female Engineers? #ASEChat

Tracy_Tyrrell Oct 10 @ 3:43 PM EDT

@ASPIRES2science However - can't beat inspirational teaching and family involvement #asechat

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:43 PM EDT

Are we streaming the majority of kids out of science too young with Double/Triple? https://t.co/2ZVMKHSoqE #ASEChat

DrDav Oct 10 @ 3:44 PM EDT

Certainly in Europe, I believe. #asechat https://t.co/pH16NFKrO2

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:41 PM EDT

@DrDav I think England is worst in world for proportion of professional female Engineers? #ASEChat

doc_kristy Oct 10 @ 3:44 PM EDT

@ASPIRES2science @hrogerson problem with lack of visibility of STEM professionals?, after all everyone knows what a GP does #asechat

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:44 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 This stat might be in the Perkins report on engineering. Don't have the link to hand though- apologies! #ASEChat

stevethedoc1 Oct 10 @ 3:44 PM EDT

@Tracy_Tyrrell @ASPIRES2science #asechat this probably sums it up nicely with solution posed as well

Tracy_Tyrrell Oct 10 @ 3:44 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 @JonScott46 @Stockportslic Family involvement is important - we have a family science club after school on Fridays #asechat

jesswade Oct 10 @ 3:44 PM EDT

@Tracy_Tyrrell @ASPIRES2science AGREED! And less "I was always crap at maths... physics is boring" #ASEChat

MarcNeesam Oct 10 @ 3:45 PM EDT

@A_Weatherall @BenRogersEdu @oboelizzy I don't dispute the effect, but it is happening due to school choice not because tests exist #asechat

ViciaScience Oct 10 @ 3:45 PM EDT

That would be conclusion from SCORE, based on ASPIRE research and others https://t.co/7TmvnUUsB7 #ASEChat https://t.co/bZPzXGPjmO

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:43 PM EDT

Are we streaming the majority of kids out of science too young with Double/Triple? https://t.co/2ZVMKHSoqE #ASEChat

oboelizzy Oct 10 @ 3:45 PM EDT

@MarcNeesam @BenRogersEdu #asechat high stakes is the real prob, I could go into probs of a positivist approach to assessment but I won't!!!

Stockportslic Oct 10 @ 3:46 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 @Tracy_Tyrrell @JonScott46 Context is crucial ...it has to be relevant and mean something to EY minds #asechat

Tracy_Tyrrell Oct 10 @ 3:46 PM EDT

@Stockportslic @NeedhamL56 @JonScott46 @LynneBianchi definitely. ..but CPD uptake is at its lowest...!!! #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:46 PM EDT

depressing :-( #asechat How can we change this? What help do teachers need? https://t.co/EcQJ4EB5ZH

Stockportslic Oct 10 @ 3:45 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 @Tracy_Tyrrell @JonScott46 ...but at the same time other places where there's nothing at all. Tale of 2 cities @LynneBianchi

ViciaScience Oct 10 @ 3:46 PM EDT

And making use of parents employed in STEM to support school activities #ASEChat https://t.co/6wEIWUNShD

Tracy_Tyrrell Oct 10 @ 3:44 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 @JonScott46 @Stockportslic Family involvement is important - we have a family science club after school on Fridays #asechat

Tracy_Tyrrell Oct 10 @ 3:47 PM EDT

@Stockportslic @NeedhamL56 @JonScott46 For girls, some sort of emotional involvement too - it needs to matter to them #asechat

oboelizzy Oct 10 @ 3:47 PM EDT

Very good point indeed #asechat https://t.co/8I4L3HOJG5

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:43 PM EDT

Are we streaming the majority of kids out of science too young with Double/Triple? https://t.co/2ZVMKHSoqE #ASEChat

DrDav Oct 10 @ 3:48 PM EDT

I have come to think so. Kids often think they can't do A-levels without triple science. #asechat https://t.co/wE12E29AMo

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:43 PM EDT

Are we streaming the majority of kids out of science too young with Double/Triple? https://t.co/2ZVMKHSoqE #ASEChat

doc_kristy Oct 10 @ 3:48 PM EDT

@FarmStokehill @ASPIRES2science @hrogerson not sure... TV? Social media? Some progress with profile of people like Brian Cox etc #asechat

JonScott46 Oct 10 @ 3:48 PM EDT

Boys too! @Tracy_Tyrrell @Stockportslic @NeedhamL56 #asechat

ViciaScience Oct 10 @ 3:48 PM EDT

@DrDav And so do many science teachers unfortunately. Very difficult to let go of triple science GCSE route for elite #asechat

hrogerson Oct 10 @ 3:48 PM EDT

@oboelizzy @ASPIRES2science yes, I don't actually know the answer here if triple means students are 1/2 grade better of at A-level? #asechat

DrDav Oct 10 @ 3:50 PM EDT

We run 'science for families' to normalise Family discussions about science. https://t.co/wORS1rJUqv #asechat https://t.co/8koS3quWfk

Tracy_Tyrrell Oct 10 @ 3:43 PM EDT

@ASPIRES2science However - can't beat inspirational teaching and family involvement #asechat

SpaceCampUK Oct 10 @ 3:50 PM EDT

#ASEchat We run family rocketry workshops on a Saturday morning with the whole family working together to build and launch an ESTES Rocket

Tracy_Tyrrell Oct 10 @ 3:50 PM EDT

@Stockportslic Show teachers how great science can be.@pstt_whyhow, @MarcNeesam, etc trying to but how to reach those who need it? #asechat

hrogerson Oct 10 @ 3:50 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @DrDav hate it when people describe the move between the two as up/down. THEY ARE STILL BOTH GCSES! #asechat

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:50 PM EDT

@DrDav We found most kids don't have choice of route - Y9 is too young to be 'channelled out'! #ASEChat

oboelizzy Oct 10 @ 3:50 PM EDT

@MarcNeesam @A_Weatherall @BenRogersEdu #asechat I think I could take issue with that! We'll argue over a drink at #aseconf!! 😀

Tracy_Tyrrell Oct 10 @ 3:51 PM EDT

@Stockportslic @NeedhamL56 @JonScott46 @LynneBianchi Definitely - how to inspire the teachers, how to reach them in the first place #asechat

DrDav Oct 10 @ 3:51 PM EDT

Some girls, and some boys too find context helpful. Others study it just because they love it. #asechat https://t.co/03bHlxC6TB

Tracy_Tyrrell Oct 10 @ 3:47 PM EDT

@Stockportslic @NeedhamL56 @JonScott46 For girls, some sort of emotional involvement too - it needs to matter to them #asechat

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:51 PM EDT

@doc_kristy @FarmStokehill @hrogerson Great as Brian is, he doesn't break the brainy boy image of science! #ASEChat

ViciaScience Oct 10 @ 3:51 PM EDT

@SpaceCampUK And family science activity days with STEM Learning also very popular #asechat

BenRogersEdu Oct 10 @ 3:52 PM EDT

#asechat https://t.co/VIK4Cvp3fe

DrLucyRogers Oct 10 @ 3:51 PM EDT

/@BenRogersEdu https://t.co/0X64cGX6dX

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:52 PM EDT

Indeed , science could be a core subject ;-) #asechat https://t.co/tSHHvtVIkl

Stockportslic Oct 10 @ 3:48 PM EDT

@NeedhamL56 @Tracy_Tyrrell @JonScott46 @LynneBianchi Aside from a fundamental curricular change to 'make science central'?

ViciaScience Oct 10 @ 3:52 PM EDT

@hrogerson @DrDav they are both GCSEs but no one holds combined science in equal esteem to Bi Ch Ph GCSE #asechat

DrDav Oct 10 @ 3:52 PM EDT

I know. Which is short-sighted on part of science teachers if they want larger A-level classes. #asechat https://t.co/A8EAJlNrLu

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:50 PM EDT

@DrDav We found most kids don't have choice of route - Y9 is too young to be 'channelled out'! #ASEChat

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:52 PM EDT

@DrDav Teachers we worked with found personalising science to kids helped engagement with science and built science capital #ASEChat

stevethedoc1 Oct 10 @ 3:53 PM EDT

@ASPIRES2science @doc_kristy @FarmStokehill @hrogerson #asechat agreed just reinforces the brainy image

PhysicsEducator Oct 10 @ 3:53 PM EDT

@BenRogersEdu I have a 'library' at the back of my classroom. Contains science biographies. Readership is small but appreciative #asechat

oboelizzy Oct 10 @ 3:53 PM EDT

@hrogerson @ASPIRES2science #asechat think we need to look more deeply into the stats here-think there are more variables at play

doc_kristy Oct 10 @ 3:53 PM EDT

@Tracy_Tyrrell @Stockportslic @NeedhamL56 @JonScott46 not all girls either.... Says mother of 4yo girl) #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:54 PM EDT

Does this attract those families without science capital? #asechat these are the ones we need to help https://t.co/mLZaOOHqc8

SpaceCampUK Oct 10 @ 3:50 PM EDT

#ASEchat We run family rocketry workshops on a Saturday morning with the whole family working together to build and launch an ESTES Rocket

MarcNeesam Oct 10 @ 3:54 PM EDT

@Tracy_Tyrrell @Stockportslic @pstt_whyhow for those who are hard to reach science has to be part of school accountability. #asechat

hrogerson Oct 10 @ 3:54 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @DrDav but YELLIS predictions actually indicate double more tricky than BCP. #asechat

ViciaScience Oct 10 @ 3:55 PM EDT

@hrogerson @DrDav I would agree - challenging course, but why does (only) science need different GCSE routes? #asechat

MarcNeesam Oct 10 @ 3:55 PM EDT

A question is science too 'carrot' driven and we need more 'stick'? At least as far as schools and teachers are concerned. #asechat

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:56 PM EDT

@MarcNeesam @Tracy_Tyrrell @Stockportslic @pstt_whyhow Yep - science is key for public scientific literacy and active citzenship #ASEChat

TJohns85 Oct 10 @ 3:56 PM EDT

Umm today's mini white board find #asechat https://t.co/4W9hEyLRyA

ViciaScience Oct 10 @ 3:57 PM EDT

@jesswade @DrDav Is computer science a science? Not yet managed to identify fundamental similarities in ways of thinking #ASEChat

ASPIRES2science Oct 10 @ 3:57 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @hrogerson @DrDav Agreed! I think time for government to consider this seriously #ASEChat

hrogerson Oct 10 @ 3:57 PM EDT

@DrDav @ViciaScience it was brought up by Brian Cartwright, who indicated ofsted thought it was attitude because of doing triple. #asechat

NeedhamL56 - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:57 PM EDT

Tee tee! It does look remarkably like your twitter pic! that student should do art! #asechat https://t.co/i5bwfyWepn

TJohns85 Oct 10 @ 3:56 PM EDT

Umm today's mini white board find #asechat https://t.co/4W9hEyLRyA

jesswade Oct 10 @ 3:58 PM EDT

@DrDav @ViciaScience some young people I worked w/ recently were told to pick between triple science & comp sci.. #asechat

theASE - Moderator Oct 10 @ 3:58 PM EDT

@ASPIRES2science with just a few mins to go! What is the one thing you would say is the take home message from tonight's #asechat

DrDav Oct 10 @ 3:59 PM EDT

@hrogerson @ViciaScience I think he's probably right and that there is a level of expectation on part of teachers. #asechat

oboelizzy Oct 10 @ 3:59 PM EDT

@MarcNeesam #asechat interesting thought! Sometimes I do wonder about the stick!! Again-to be debated over a drink at #aseconf!!

ViciaScience Oct 10 @ 3:59 PM EDT

@ASPIRES2science @hrogerson @DrDav There would be comment from some learned societies unless they were brought on board #asechat

MarcNeesam Oct 10 @ 3:59 PM EDT

@Stockportslic @Tracy_Tyrrell @pstt_whyhow Governors treating science as core, science data as imp. as maths and lit perhaps? #asechat