#SwDMathChat Archive

Thursday October 26, 2017
9:00 PM EDT
  • MrsMurat Oct 26 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    My Ss broke the internet with positivity! https://t.co/mAJMMUrG9V #reg5chat #RLchat #saskedchat #SwDMathChat #TBookC
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    I'm Jen from Massachusetts, middle school math dept head for Ss with LBLD. 10 years in the field #SwDMathChat
  • participatechat Oct 26 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    Participate in the upcoming #SwDMathChat by sharing resources and collaborating at https://t.co/2gl5JhlFuX
  • PanglossCritic Oct 26 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    I'm Sara from WI. I teach HS Alg 2, Alg 2 intervention, and stats. It's my 7th year teaching. #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4
  • bkdidact - Moderator Oct 26 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    I’m Andrew from NYC. I teach at a self-contained HS. I’ve been in education for over 10 years. #SwDMathChat
    • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 8:58 PM EDT
      Welcome to the #SwDMathChat. The topic we are talking about tonight is math anxiety. Time for introductions!
  • bkdidact - Moderator Oct 26 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Hi Sara! Thanks for joining in! #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @PanglossCritic, @jennifuhs4
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Welcome Sara! #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @PanglossCritic
  • bkdidact - Moderator Oct 26 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    If any #ElemMathChat folks feel like double dipping check out #SwDMathChat also!
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Let's start! Q1: Why does math, in particular, induce anxiety in so many students? (versus other subjects) #SwDMathChat
  • RogoNic Oct 26 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    I am Nic Petty from Christchurch NZ. My social enterprise has as its vision a world of mathematicians. We run maths events. #SwDMathChat
  • MrsNewell22 Oct 26 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Chrissy, Elem math specialist for county office in CA. 11 years in education #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Hi Chrissy! Glad you stopped by! #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @MrsNewell22
  • getting_sharper Oct 26 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Hi all! I’ll be stopping in and out as I help paint our living room! I’m Charlotte, a math teacher educator at @SUSchoolofEd in Syracuse! #SwDMathChat
  • bkdidact - Moderator Oct 26 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Hi Nic. What kind of math events? #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @RogoNic
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Welcome Nic! I'd love to connect sometime about what your company does... sounds interesting! #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @RogoNic
  • PanglossCritic Oct 26 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    A1-Math is societal connected to high intelligence. If Ss have a moment where math makes them feel stupid, it can grow anxiety. #SwDMathChat
  • MrsNewell22 Oct 26 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    A1: Math has historically been a performance subject instead of a learning subject. #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Welcome Charlotte, glad you can participate in any capacity! #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @getting_sharper, @SUSchoolofEd
  • getting_sharper Oct 26 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    A1: I think it’s a combination of socially acceptable public disparagement of math, dissatisfaction with math instruction, and a lack of play in typical math instruction. #SwDMathChat
  • RogoNic Oct 26 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    This blog post and video talks about our events. https://t.co/aWx1ra1XFV #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @bkdidact
  • jennalaib Oct 26 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    Jenna, K-8 specialist just outside Boston. Trying to juggle chat while feeding my newborn, so... we'll see how this goes. :) #SwDMathChat
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    Say more on this... What makes Ss feel stupid? #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @PanglossCritic
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    Welcome! Good luck multi-tasking! #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @jennalaib
  • bkdidact - Moderator Oct 26 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    Did I miss the first Q? #SwDMathChat
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    Do you think that the dissatisfaction with math instruction comes from not understanding the purpose/intent of instruction? #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @getting_sharper
  • RogoNic Oct 26 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A1 I think anxiety about maths is socially inherited. Parents pass it on, messages on tv etc. I taught adults w maths issues. #SwDMathChat
  • JeremyDBond Oct 26 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    Hi, I'm a parent in Connecticut. A1) It's been presented in a way more removed from kids' everyday experience, when it's not. #SWDmathchat
    • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:05 PM EDT
      Let's start! Q1: Why does math, in particular, induce anxiety in so many students? (versus other subjects) #SwDMathChat
  • PanglossCritic Oct 26 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    Timed tests (lack of speed = failure), cold calling, the objective nature of most math assessment- you're right or wrong. #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4
  • jennalaib Oct 26 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A1: So many possible, intertwining causes! Some Ss seem to think math is made up of "facts" and that those that know them...+ #SwDMathChat
  • PaulaKrieg Oct 26 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    Speaking for myself, when I find work out a hard problem I feel dumb for not having seen the way to right answer sooner #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4, @PanglossCritic
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    Many of my peers always make negative comments about their math ability #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @RogoNic
  • jennalaib Oct 26 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    +memorize them or divine them through magic, not sense-making. It must be frustrating to feel unable to "perform" like them. #SwDMathChat
  • PanglossCritic Oct 26 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    I'll never forget how dumb I felt during a unit circle pop quiz in Alg 2. I'd been absent, so I knew none of it. #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    So speed is an important factor in making you feel successful in math? #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @PaulaKrieg, @PanglossCritic
  • PaulaKrieg Oct 26 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    Even after all these years, even though I playing with math, the learning of new stuff always makes me feel dumb. #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4, @PanglossCritic
  • bkdidact - Moderator Oct 26 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    A1: I think that the values teachers & society place on math achievement lead some (including me) to have anxiety. #SwDMathChat
    • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:05 PM EDT
      Let's start! Q1: Why does math, in particular, induce anxiety in so many students? (versus other subjects) #SwDMathChat
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    Nothing like surprising students and not accounting for those who may have been absent, right? #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @PanglossCritic
  • jennalaib Oct 26 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    I have felt that before, too! Thanks for bringing this one to light. #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @PaulaKrieg, @jennifuhs4, @PanglossCritic
  • NeelDesaiBA Oct 26 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A1: It is black/white - either it is correct or not - Ss pick this up at an early age- Its evaluative. #swdmathchat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    Q2: What are the main contributing factors to student anxiety in YOUR classroom? Be honest! :) #SwDMathChat
  • PanglossCritic Oct 26 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    Not me particularly, but Mad Minute tests in elem can have lasting effects into HS. "I'm slow at arithmetic so I'm dumb." #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4, @PaulaKrieg
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    Does it take you longer than others to understand new concepts? #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @PaulaKrieg, @PanglossCritic
  • PaulaKrieg Oct 26 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    No, not speed. once the understanding comes, I feel I should have seen it before. Like when you are looking for your glasses +#SwDMathChat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4, @PanglossCritic
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    So true! ...and often in math the effort put in to understanding or solving the problem doesn't matter as much as the answer #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @getting_sharper
  • PaulaKrieg Oct 26 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    ...and you realize you're wearing them, and that makes you feel sort dumb. #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4, @PanglossCritic
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    Interesting! Perhaps that might have been the language the T is using and less on you? #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @PaulaKrieg, @PanglossCritic
  • JeremyDBond Oct 26 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    We just shouldn't say we're not good at math. We shouldn't say we're not good at anything. #SWDmathchat
    In reply to @RogoNic
  • PanglossCritic Oct 26 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A2- Low confidence, fear/strong aversion to mistakes breeds anxiety in my room. #SwDMathChat
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    It's very contagious! How do you combat this? #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @PanglossCritic
  • RogoNic Oct 26 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    Yet I hear elem teachers saying this ALL THE TIME! Need to add "yet" at least. #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @JeremyDBond
  • PaulaKrieg Oct 26 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    I don't know. It doesn't have anything to do with others. Just, me, saying why did I see that. #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4, @PanglossCritic
  • getting_sharper Oct 26 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A2: My students are college pre service elem teachers. Many of them have math anxiety after years and years of it building. And going into a profession where being strong and confident in math is unfortunately not seen as critical #SwDMathChat
  • PaulaKrieg Oct 26 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    I think that measuring by speed is really soul crushing. The emphasis is all wrong. Fluency is important, but not speed IMO #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @getting_sharper, @jennifuhs4, @PanglossCritic
  • PanglossCritic Oct 26 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    Building on concrete successes and "my favorite no" help boost confidence and normalize mistakes. Patience is a must. #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    My favorite no is a favorite of mine. #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @PanglossCritic
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    This is very true, and when Ss struggle in math it's usually what we focus on for intervention! #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @PaulaKrieg, @getting_sharper, @PanglossCritic
  • geonz Oct 26 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    #swdmathchat sometimes it's true. I like the "add YET" idea.
    In reply to @JeremyDBond, @RogoNic
  • RogoNic Oct 26 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    I suspect many have math trauma. There is an excellent webinar about this:https://t.co/jfD7NzNqKV #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @getting_sharper
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    Q3/4: What types of math activities are MOST/LEAST likely to cause stress for struggling learners? Why might this be? #SwDMathChat
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    Yet is such a powerful growth mindset word. #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @geonz, @JeremyDBond, @RogoNic
  • PanglossCritic Oct 26 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    My 11/12 graders each have a "I liked math until..." story. Timed tests are a common theme. #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @PaulaKrieg, @getting_sharper, @jennifuhs4
  • geonz Oct 26 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    #swdmathchat saying "don't say you're not good at math" can be saying "don't say what you feel." I need to accept that's what they believe.
    In reply to @RogoNic
  • RogoNic Oct 26 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Q4. Games all the way - We do two hours of math with large groups and they love it, because it feels like games. #SwDMathChat
  • geonz Oct 26 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    #swdmathchat the obvious ones -- but also ones that really are too hard right now.
  • PanglossCritic Oct 26 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A3- I notice most stress w/ my Ss when they are under time constraints or put on the spot without adequate processing time. #SwDMathChat
  • getting_sharper Oct 26 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A4: I think activities that take all comers are less likely to induce anxiety. #wodb is a great one, or #choralcounting (esp pattern spotting) #SwDMathChat
  • RogoNic Oct 26 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    Maybe it depends on their definition of what mathematicians do or what maths is. #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @geonz
  • bkdidact - Moderator Oct 26 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    Hi #SwDMathChat #ElemMathChat #MsMathChat #Spedchat please sign up to moderate a future #SwDMathChat here: https://t.co/ZMb5iCOmPd
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    When do these hours take place? Sounds fun! What are your favorite games? #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @RogoNic
  • geonz Oct 26 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    #swdmathchat I work w/ adults and everybody wants to accelerate -- and understanding takes TIME.
  • geonz Oct 26 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    #swdmathchat Sped label usually means years of lowered expectations.
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    Low entry and high ceiling problems are important for SwD. Many don't know how to enter a problem and shy away bc of this! #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @getting_sharper
  • JeremyDBond Oct 26 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    Good point. Kids can say what they want; it's adults who send a message by saying it. #SWDmathchat
    In reply to @geonz, @RogoNic
  • anndurham13 Oct 26 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    Ann in Jakarta trying to catch what I can during parent-teacher conferences! #SwDMathChat
  • getting_sharper Oct 26 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    A4b: I think more anxiety inducing activities involve really prescribed and complicated procedures for solving that are difficult to reconstruct, even with understanding #SwDMathChat
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    Many Ps at my school just push push push for acceleration without understanding. All for a test! Sigh #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @geonz
  • geonz Oct 26 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    #swdmathchat YES "long division"
    In reply to @getting_sharper
  • mathconfidence Oct 26 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    yes and it puts students on the slow track #swdmathchat like @mlarson_math often shares
    In reply to @geonz, @mlarson_math
  • PaulaKrieg Oct 26 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A2 As a mom. my children had most math anxiety when 1)they were going to be compared to their peers (multiplication Sundaes)+ #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4
  • RogoNic Oct 26 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    We visit rural schools during the school day. Involves dragons from two generated data sets. Multiple levels, high engagement. #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4
  • JeremyDBond Oct 26 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A3) Timed tests. The pressure! A4) Hands-on projects. Because the "math" may be hidden! #SWDmathchat
    • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:22 PM EDT
      Q3/4: What types of math activities are MOST/LEAST likely to cause stress for struggling learners? Why might this be? #SwDMathChat
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    This is an important point. Many Ss can conceptually attack on grade level material but are held back due to procedural fluency #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @geonz
  • PanglossCritic Oct 26 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    A4- I notice less anxiety when students have ownership over tasks or can work in partners. Play to strengths & offer support #SwDMathChat
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    AND hands-on makes the math more real and visible to Ss who constantly are looking for WHY they are learning the math! #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @JeremyDBond
  • PaulaKrieg Oct 26 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    2)teachers berated them for figuring out problems differently 3)when they would get lost & nothing made sense #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    Hi Ann! How'd the weather these days? #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @anndurham13
  • MrsNewell22 Oct 26 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    A3: Most likely to cause stress: timed tasks A4: Least likely: open ended, multiple entry points #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4
  • geonz Oct 26 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    #swdmathchat Ss w/ language learning issues can go so much deeper when it's visual/concrete and then connected to the language
    In reply to @jennifuhs4, @JeremyDBond
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    My Ss with LBLD and working memory issues love the idea of "short division" many know the leftover ...+ #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @getting_sharper, @geonz
  • RogoNic Oct 26 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    By held back do you mean by the system? Some operate at multiple levels - not good at sums, but great thinkers. Can get bored. #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4, @geonz
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    +but the steps they have to follow in long division make them forget. #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @getting_sharper, @geonz
  • geonz Oct 26 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    #swdmathchat Our college pre-alg course has tons of shorter div probs and I *see* the number sense grow.
    In reply to @jennifuhs4, @getting_sharper
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    Ss are placed in lower level classes due to a lack of competency with procedures... Ts think they must master before moving on. #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @RogoNic, @geonz
  • mathconfidence Oct 26 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    a student once shared Dogs Must Sit Beautifully :) #swdmathchat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4, @getting_sharper, @geonz
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    My Ss used to say "Dumb Men Sink Boats" #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @mathconfidence, @getting_sharper, @geonz
  • geonz Oct 26 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    #swdmathchat MANY stopped thinking b/c it was all about procedure so we don't even know what they could learn.
    In reply to @RogoNic, @jennifuhs4
  • mathconfidence Oct 26 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    can u pls share some xamples of yr fave div probs? #swdmathchat
    In reply to @geonz, @jennifuhs4, @getting_sharper
  • mathconfidence Oct 26 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    LOL oh my #swdmathchat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4, @getting_sharper, @geonz
  • RogoNic Oct 26 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    Universal prob. Emphasis on strategies makes it worse, imo. Can't explain method, so kept in "low" group. #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4, @geonz
  • PaulaKrieg Oct 26 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    #SwDMathChat A4 for my kids, discovering patterns at any level of math was satisfying.
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    Q5: Some tests and performance based measures are unavoidable. What can we do as teachers to help our students reduce anxiety? #SwDMathChat
  • JeremyDBond Oct 26 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    Makes sense. I guess it's that math is so associated with numbers that many other types of learners think it's not for them. #SWDmathchat
    In reply to @geonz, @jennifuhs4
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    Patterns are SO important to SwD. Patterns are also important in understanding numbers and number relationships! #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @PaulaKrieg
  • geonz Oct 26 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    #swdmathchat "copy machine makes 8 copies per minute. HOw long to make 255 copies?"
    In reply to @mathconfidence, @jennifuhs4, @getting_sharper
  • anndurham13 Oct 26 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    Warm, sunny, and lovely at 8:30am :) #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4
  • geonz Oct 26 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    Oh, here it is "Daddy Mommy Sister Brother" :P #swdmathchat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4, @mathconfidence, @getting_sharper
  • mathconfidence Oct 26 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    then they mix up the order of that :) do u see/teach short division? #swdmathchat
    In reply to @geonz, @jennifuhs4, @getting_sharper
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    Ahhh.. which is just as arbitrary for remembering the order as "divide, multiply, subtract, bring down" sigh... #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @geonz, @mathconfidence, @getting_sharper
  • geonz Oct 26 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    #swdmathchat nto sure what you mean by short division
    In reply to @mathconfidence, @jennifuhs4, @getting_sharper
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    We teach short division at our school to Ss with strong number sense ready to move beyond "big 7" method :P #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @mathconfidence, @geonz, @getting_sharper
  • getting_sharper Oct 26 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A5: For one, I think it’s ok to teach students that stress isn’t inherently bad. It’s a physical response to our brain saying “everyone get ready!!” #swdmathchat
  • geonz Oct 26 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    #swdmathchat I am appreciating somebody who posted that ... doing division made number sense gel for them.
  • JeremyDBond Oct 26 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A5) Answering as a parent, I don't let a number define their capacity as a learner. That it's there to help the school/teacher. #SWDmathchat
    • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:32 PM EDT
      Q5: Some tests and performance based measures are unavoidable. What can we do as teachers to help our students reduce anxiety? #SwDMathChat
  • PaulaKrieg Oct 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    A5 #SwDMathChat Maybe more small "tests" that really are about assessment, and uncovering then strengthening weaknesses before unit test?
    In reply to @jennifuhs4
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    True, however studies have shown that SOME stress reduces S working memory, essential for mathematics. How do we avoid this? #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @getting_sharper
  • bkdidact - Moderator Oct 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    A5: Know our student’s strengths and needs and manage their testing experience with these in consideration. #SwDMathChat
    • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:32 PM EDT
      Q5: Some tests and performance based measures are unavoidable. What can we do as teachers to help our students reduce anxiety? #SwDMathChat
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    We do concept "quizzes" at our school, out of 5, but you can work on the concept all year and you track your progress + #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @PaulaKrieg
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    +On various concepts over the year and retake concept quizzes #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @PaulaKrieg
  • PaulaKrieg Oct 26 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    discovering patterns feels like a game. I loved when I first saw poster that said Books Are To Reading like Games Are To Math #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    This is soooo important! We sometimes get number focused (tee-hee) and let numbers define ourselves - it may just be a snapshot #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @JeremyDBond
  • JeremyDBond Oct 26 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    Can it be be transformed to a "rush" kind of stress, like an amusement ride? Turning their academic anxiety into a "fun" fear? #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4, @getting_sharper
  • mathconfidence Oct 26 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    I am an old dog -- we did this way back when in BC (before calculators) #swdmathchat
    In reply to @geonz, @jennifuhs4, @getting_sharper
  • RogoNic Oct 26 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    Wonderful. There are so many links between maths and games and play. Mathematicians play with ideas! #SwDMathChat
    • PaulaKrieg Oct 26 @ 9:38 PM EDT
      discovering patterns feels like a game. I loved when I first saw poster that said Books Are To Reading like Games Are To Math #SwDMathChat
      In reply to @jennifuhs4
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    #SwDMathChat
    • getting_sharper Oct 26 @ 9:39 PM EDT
      Recognize the feelings, recognize where they’re coming from, breathe deep, take your time, and use positive self talk
      In reply to @jennifuhs4
  • mathconfidence Oct 26 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    help s's and p's view tests like athletics -- an opportunity for improvement. #swdmathchat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    Ss who struggle in mathematics need to see this! It'sso vital to reducing anxiety! #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @RogoNic
  • mathconfidence Oct 26 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    also can take tests to build rapport and empathy w our s's that's why I took the new SAT in 2016 #swdmathchat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4
  • geonz Oct 26 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    #swdmathchat "find five things in the room and name them" is a strategy for when things get really spinny
  • RogoNic Oct 26 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    I think only for some people. I liken to peanut butter. Just bec some like it, can't make whole class do it. #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @JeremyDBond, @jennifuhs4, @getting_sharper
  • JeremyDBond Oct 26 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    Speaking of not making sense... berated for a different approach? 🙄 #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @PaulaKrieg, @jennifuhs4
  • PanglossCritic Oct 26 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    This is a great technique to stop a little stress from escalating to an impossible stress monster #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @getting_sharper, @jennifuhs4
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    The fact that I play many sports and have not made this connection in my class upsets me. Great point! #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @mathconfidence
  • geonz Oct 26 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    #swdmathchat taking Java I and II reminded me what frustration was
    In reply to @mathconfidence, @jennifuhs4
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    Figuring out problems differently is what makes math so interesting!!! Sigh...celebrate unique solutions! #SwDMathChat
    • PaulaKrieg Oct 26 @ 9:28 PM EDT
      2)teachers berated them for figuring out problems differently 3)when they would get lost & nothing made sense #SwDMathChat
      In reply to @jennifuhs4
  • PanglossCritic Oct 26 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    A5- Relationships are key. Know your Ss, so you know how to support them. #SwDMathChat
  • JeremyDBond Oct 26 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    Interesting discussion. With math especially, I do wonder if my kid really gets it after all--whether it's the wrong questions. #SwDmathchat
    In reply to @geonz, @RogoNic, @jennifuhs4
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    Q6: Much of student anxiety around math comes from parents (learned - they dislike it), how can we help reduce this anxiety? #SwDMathChat
  • mathconfidence Oct 26 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    yes..have been working a good reply to why does a smart student need/want a tutor? #swdmathchat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4
  • RogoNic Oct 26 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    Here is our working diagram of what mathematicians do: #SwDMathChat
  • MrsNewell22 Oct 26 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    A5: Prepare then for what to expect. Help Ss understand their worth is not tied to a test score #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4
  • mathconfidence Oct 26 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    answer: @serenawilliams has a coach #swdmathchat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4, @serenawilliams
  • PaulaKrieg Oct 26 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    It happened to them all of the time. Husband & I were always getting them 2 look at numbers differently. School didn't like it. #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @JeremyDBond, @jennifuhs4
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    THIS! Sometimes our tests don't actually get at understanding. If a S answers correctly, do they understand? Maybe. #SwDMathChat
    • JeremyDBond Oct 26 @ 9:43 PM EDT
      Interesting discussion. With math especially, I do wonder if my kid really gets it after all--whether it's the wrong questions. #SwDmathchat
      In reply to @geonz, @RogoNic, @jennifuhs4
  • PanglossCritic Oct 26 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    Ss with trauma in their background will avoid that sensation like the plague, though it could work with some. #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @JeremyDBond, @jennifuhs4, @getting_sharper
  • JeremyDBond Oct 26 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    And when it comes to roller coasters, some of us are just scared to death. 😏 #SWDmathchat
    In reply to @RogoNic, @jennifuhs4, @getting_sharper
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    I think we as Ts need to support and celebrate this! #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @PaulaKrieg, @JeremyDBond
  • mathconfidence Oct 26 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    thx sounds challenging :) where/when did you take it? #swdmathchat
    In reply to @geonz, @jennifuhs4
  • JeremyDBond Oct 26 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    Yes, and of course the focus on these kind of numbers extends beyond math. #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    I will avoid roller coasters for the rest of my life. No thanks! #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @JeremyDBond, @RogoNic, @getting_sharper
  • geonz Oct 26 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    At the community college whre I work to learn to make a math app. #swdmathchat (But LOL GEOGEBRA! DESMOS!
    In reply to @mathconfidence, @jennifuhs4
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    Very much so, unfortunately. We need to be thinking more whole-child #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @JeremyDBond
  • mathconfidence Oct 26 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    I often think abt if school was skiing which is super scary 4 me and I had 2 do it 6 hrs/day for yrs #swdmathchat
    In reply to @JeremyDBond, @RogoNic, @jennifuhs4, @getting_sharper
  • mathconfidence Oct 26 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    one person's algebra is another person's skiing #swdmathchat
    In reply to @JeremyDBond, @RogoNic, @jennifuhs4, @getting_sharper
  • MrsNewell22 Oct 26 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    Sometimes hard to tell if they don’t understand the question or the math if it’s not the right ? #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    This would be utterly terrifying. Imagine something you're scared of and being forced to do it for 6hours a day? #SwDMathChat
    • mathconfidence Oct 26 @ 9:46 PM EDT
      I often think abt if school was skiing which is super scary 4 me and I had 2 do it 6 hrs/day for yrs #swdmathchat
      In reply to @JeremyDBond, @RogoNic, @jennifuhs4, @getting_sharper
  • mathconfidence Oct 26 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    @TonyRobbins equates anxiety to excitement #swdmathchat
    In reply to @getting_sharper, @TonyRobbins
  • geonz Oct 26 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    #swdmathchat I think things like Geogebra and Desmos have hyuuuge potential for making math more conceptual
    In reply to @mathconfidence, @jennifuhs4
  • JeremyDBond Oct 26 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    And now they kinda have to, right? CCSS and new emphasis in general on conceptual understanding? #SWDmathchat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4, @PaulaKrieg
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    So how do we as Ts combat this? I like to interview these kids. Conversations are so important to get at Ss understanding #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @MrsNewell22
  • RogoNic Oct 26 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    some ts say if we remove all stress from school how will ss learn to cope in life. Don't agree but not sure how to answer. #SwDMathChat
  • JeremyDBond Oct 26 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    Wow, thank you for your sacrifices for your students! #SWDMathChat
    In reply to @geonz, @mathconfidence, @jennifuhs4
  • mathconfidence Oct 26 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    https://t.co/sRdcOrhvnI #swdmathchat
    In reply to @geonz, @jennifuhs4
  • geonz Oct 26 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    I think we can design things more "formatively." "what will you do here?" #swdmathchat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4, @MrsNewell22
  • PanglossCritic Oct 26 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    Desmos has certainly helped my Alg2 students tackle function transformations. It's more accessible than a TI #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @geonz, @mathconfidence, @jennifuhs4
  • JeremyDBond Oct 26 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    "What do you wonder?" Let them come up with the questions. #SWDmathchat
    In reply to @geonz, @jennifuhs4, @MrsNewell22
  • PaulaKrieg Oct 26 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    A6 add parents to the equation! https://t.co/XvAaMJ75YC #SWDmathchat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    My favorite question is "what's your first move?" I listen then walk away. Process is so important to me, not the answer. #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @geonz, @MrsNewell22
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    You can manipulative and notice/wonder as you change elements :) Less threatening! #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @PanglossCritic, @geonz, @mathconfidence
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    Yes! Parents want to be involved, too! #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @PaulaKrieg
  • PanglossCritic Oct 26 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    School isn't the only place Ss experience stress. We need to stop pretending Ss don't experience life outside school #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @RogoNic
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    Last Q! What is one approach you can to commit to in your classroom in order to create a more math-positive environment? #SwDMathChat
  • JeremyDBond Oct 26 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    Gotta skip out early but I'll answer this quickly as a parent. A6) Connect & learn more from teachers as I'm doing now. Thanks! #SWDMathChat
    • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:43 PM EDT
      Q6: Much of student anxiety around math comes from parents (learned - they dislike it), how can we help reduce this anxiety? #SwDMathChat
  • MrsNewell22 Oct 26 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    Those one-on-one interviews are so powerful! We have to convince Ts it’s worth the time #swdmathchat
    In reply to @jennifuhs4
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    Thanks for joining! We enjoyed your contributions! #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @JeremyDBond
  • geonz Oct 26 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    #swdmathchat I took animation to learn to make things visual from him and wanted more :)
    In reply to @JeremyDBond, @mathconfidence, @jennifuhs4
  • mathconfidence Oct 26 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    SAT is fun in the same way a marathon is fun :) #swdmathchat
    In reply to @geonz, @JeremyDBond, @jennifuhs4
  • PaulaKrieg Oct 26 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    When stress is too big, in school & life, people recoil: takes a long time to recover. Stress DOESN'T enhance learning & growth #SWDmathchat
    In reply to @RogoNic
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    I think getting at Ss understanding and reducing anxiety around "answer getting" starts with a conversation #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @MrsNewell22
  • geonz Oct 26 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    Good analogy #swdmathchat b/c if you're *really* fit it's .. a lot closer to actual fun...
    In reply to @mathconfidence, @JeremyDBond, @jennifuhs4
  • PaulaKrieg Oct 26 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    and I think they have hyuuuuge potential to make math more seem more concrete! #SWDmathchat
    In reply to @geonz, @mathconfidence, @jennifuhs4
  • jennifuhs4 Oct 26 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    This was seriously the best news of the day for me! #SwDMathChat
    In reply to @mathconfidence, @geonz
  • PaulaKrieg Oct 26 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    I find throwing in a touch of fear can help focus students attention, but once I have their attention, I make them feel safe. #SWDmathchat +
    In reply to @mathconfidence, @getting_sharper, @TonyRobbins
  • geonz Oct 26 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    #swdmathchat it's all relative. Could you solve a math prob. if a tiger were tearing down its cage in front of you to eat you?
    In reply to @PaulaKrieg, @RogoNic