#flipclass Archive
Monday December 5, 2016
8:00 PM EST
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:00 PM EST
Welcome to
#flipclass
chat! Introduce yourself: name, sub, grade, location and favourite pizza toppings
slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:01 PM EST
Good night,
#formativechat
. Heading to
#flipclass
chat now. Have a great week everyone. One fist pump to a Ss can change that child's day!
BAMRadioNetwork
Dec 5 @ 8:01 PM EST
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Misshanf
Dec 5 @ 8:02 PM EST
Im Hanna, a pre-servie teacher from Wisconsin and my favorite topping is cheese!
#flipclass
MickieGibbs2
Dec 5 @ 8:02 PM EST
Hi,
#flipclass
! Mickie, 8th grade Alg1 & PreAlg, north central AL (Roll Tide!), pepperoni, mushrooms, black olives
braveneutrino
Dec 5 @ 8:03 PM EST
#flipclass
is really pretty way awesome
#justsayin
#edtechat
In reply to @nathan_stevens
JJBackeberg
Dec 5 @ 8:03 PM EST
Hey
#flipclass
Justin, HS math, WI, buffalo chicken
nathan_stevens
Dec 5 @ 8:03 PM EST
not bad
#flipclass
#edtechchat
In reply to @braveneutrino
MickieGibbs2
Dec 5 @ 8:03 PM EST
Welcome, Hanna!
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In reply to @Misshanf
wjmarkert
Dec 5 @ 8:03 PM EST
Wendy, Algebra 2, Grade 10, Houston, definitely Italian sausage,
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slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:04 PM EST
Hey
#flipclass
. Shai here from PA. HS math teacher. Into my 5th year of
#flipclass
. Pizza = YUMMY! Favorite topping is extra cheese!
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:04 PM EST
She was trying to say
#flipclass
is more awesome. But she was being nice.
In reply to @nathan_stevens, @braveneutrino
katiedroeszler
Dec 5 @ 8:04 PM EST
Hi I'm Katie and I am a pre-service teacher at the University of Wisconsin Platteville! Favorite pizza topping is cheese
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slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:05 PM EST
I am out on unplanned medical leave. My sub emailed today & told me my Ss are so independent, she isn't needed.
#flipclass
win!
MickieGibbs2
Dec 5 @ 8:05 PM EST
Welcome to
#flipclass
Katie!
In reply to @katiedroeszler
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:05 PM EST
Q1 - What are your thoughts/feelings about mastery in
#flipclass
? Or (if you don't have thoughts/feelings) how do you define mastery?
braveneutrino
Dec 5 @ 8:05 PM EST
Hi
#flipclass
ppl So happy to be here on time! MS sci and tech facilitator lately.
nathan_stevens
Dec 5 @ 8:05 PM EST
#flipclass
#edtechchat
In reply to @thomasson_engl, @braveneutrino
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:06 PM EST
Oh also - Andrew, co-mod
#flipclass
, partner to
@guster4lovers
, HS Pub in NC, 5 yrs, and sausage/mushrooms.
In reply to @guster4lovers
katiedroeszler
Dec 5 @ 8:06 PM EST
Hi I'm Katie and I am a pre-service teacher at the University of Wisconsin Platteville
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MickieGibbs2
Dec 5 @ 8:06 PM EST
this sounds like a "duh, of course it isn't" but I hope everything is OK. Yea for the
#flipclass
win!
In reply to @slm12
knightbio1
Dec 5 @ 8:06 PM EST
Hello
#Flipclass
. Bob from Ohio. 10th grade Biology & 11th grade Anatomy & Physiology. Favorite topping - green olives
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:06 PM EST
My Stacy is here. Life is good.
#flipclass
@braveneutrino
In reply to @braveneutrino
JJBackeberg
Dec 5 @ 8:06 PM EST
Looks like we've got a ton of WI people tuning in to
#flipclass
tonight! Awesome!
@Misshanf
@katiedroeszler
Is
@jbretzmann
around too???
In reply to @Misshanf, @katiedroeszler, @jbretzmann
wjmarkert
Dec 5 @ 8:06 PM EST
A1:Love the concept of mastery. But not enough time for all students to achieve mastery.
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knightbio1
Dec 5 @ 8:07 PM EST
Great seeing all the pre-service teachers on
#flipclass
tonight
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:07 PM EST
A1: Mastery is great in theory and very difficult in practice without tiny classes + personal assistants.
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slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:07 PM EST
I have AWESOME Ss. It's called routines and expectations. Makes being off easier.
#flipclass
In reply to @MickieGibbs2
braveneutrino
Dec 5 @ 8:07 PM EST
I don't want to smash the self esteem of other chatters, but ...
#flipclass
My first chat.
In reply to @thomasson_engl, @nathan_stevens
JJBackeberg
Dec 5 @ 8:07 PM EST
A1: I really like the idea of mastery, but I worry about students not getting through all the content before semester/final exams
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guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:07 PM EST
welcome! Though we will have to agree to disagree about the colour of your olives :-)
#SeriousAboutBlackOlives
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In reply to @knightbio1
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:08 PM EST
Hey,
@slm12
- how you feeling? Recovered? Missed you.
#flipclass
In reply to @slm12
MickieGibbs2
Dec 5 @ 8:08 PM EST
A1:
#flipclass
allows more time and opportunity for mastery. I'm a partially there with a broad redo policy, not full flipped mastery.
slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:08 PM EST
Have to do it? How about that game Saturday night?
#weare
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In reply to @JJBackeberg, @Misshanf, @katiedroeszler, @jbretzmann
braveneutrino
Dec 5 @ 8:08 PM EST
This person is slightly scary
#flipclass
#edtechchat
In reply to @nathan_stevens, @thomasson_engl
bohndrake
Dec 5 @ 8:08 PM EST
A1- mastery doesn't exist in my eyes, every year I find ways to improve in quality and make it easier ( for me and students )
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knightbio1
Dec 5 @ 8:08 PM EST
I do like the black olives as well, but green > black
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In reply to @guster4lovers
JJBackeberg
Dec 5 @ 8:09 PM EST
a tale of two halves...each team looked completely different the 2nd half
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In reply to @slm12, @Misshanf, @katiedroeszler, @jbretzmann
slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:09 PM EST
Getting better every day. Very scary situation. Seriously glad to be alive! Last Mon was the surgery.
#flipclass
In reply to @thomasson_engl
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:09 PM EST
One of
@guster4lovers
fav sayings is "that (pizza) is good, but not enough olives." Even with a whole can.
#flipclass
In reply to @knightbio1, @guster4lovers
MickieGibbs2
Dec 5 @ 8:09 PM EST
YES. and unlimited time
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In reply to @thomasson_engl
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:09 PM EST
Right? Routines save my life. Other Ts think I'm lying that I grade during class but my Ss make it poss
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In reply to @slm12, @MickieGibbs2
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:09 PM EST
Yes, nathan is scary. But we don't like to say that in front of the children.
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In reply to @braveneutrino, @nathan_stevens
Misshanf
Dec 5 @ 8:09 PM EST
A1: I like the concept, but I think there needs to be more time for it!
#flipclass
MickieGibbs2
Dec 5 @ 8:10 PM EST
it's great when they can take care of themselves!
#flipclass
In reply to @slm12
slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:10 PM EST
They really did. PSU is def. a 2nd half team.
#flipclass
Wisc was so dominate in 1st half
In reply to @JJBackeberg, @Misshanf, @katiedroeszler, @jbretzmann
braveneutrino
Dec 5 @ 8:10 PM EST
Olives are cured in lye - really?
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katiedroeszler
Dec 5 @ 8:10 PM EST
I agree! Every student learns at a different pace so mastery for each concept can be difficult
#flipclass
In reply to @wjmarkert
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:10 PM EST
Don't know what the issue was, but very very glad you're here with us, both tonight and in the more metaphysical sense
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In reply to @slm12
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:10 PM EST
a1 I pick and choose what skills need mastery. Way too much content in history to master all of it. I'd need 3 yrs of class!
#flipclass
JJBackeberg
Dec 5 @ 8:10 PM EST
Wisc just disappeared it seemed like
#flipclass
In reply to @slm12, @Misshanf, @katiedroeszler, @jbretzmann
MickieGibbs2
Dec 5 @ 8:11 PM EST
learned that on Jeopardy tonight!
#flipclass
In reply to @braveneutrino
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:11 PM EST
Q2 - what skills or content do your Ss most need to master to succeed?
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slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:11 PM EST
I'll FB private message you.
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In reply to @thomasson_engl
wjmarkert
Dec 5 @ 8:11 PM EST
That coupled with having too many standards makes mastery for everyone nearly impossible.
#flipclass
In reply to @katiedroeszler
braveneutrino
Dec 5 @ 8:12 PM EST
Yes
#JeopardyRocks
#flipclass
In reply to @MickieGibbs2
slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:12 PM EST
A1:
#flipclass
I did flipped mastery for 3 years and loved it. The only reason I am not doing it now is the class was cancelled.
wjmarkert
Dec 5 @ 8:12 PM EST
I never thought about choosing just a few standards for mastery.
#lightbulbmoment
#flipclass
In reply to @guster4lovers
ken_bauer
Dec 5 @ 8:12 PM EST
Kalamata olives are best olives.
#flipclass
In reply to @guster4lovers, @knightbio1
knightbio1
Dec 5 @ 8:12 PM EST
A1: Transitioned one Bio class to Mastery this year. I really think the Ss are giving more effort than if they were in trad class
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thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:12 PM EST
Makes a big difference.
#flipclass
In reply to @wjmarkert, @guster4lovers
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:13 PM EST
Yeah. You have to decide which ones are the most critical.
#flipclass
In reply to @wjmarkert, @katiedroeszler
bohndrake
Dec 5 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2- time management- if students waste class time the
#flipclass
schedule won't work .
JJBackeberg
Dec 5 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2: Math is so sequential...need a solid base in one concept before being able to move on...skipping concepts get tricky then
#flipclass
MickieGibbs2
Dec 5 @ 8:14 PM EST
A2: I look at the classes that follow mine (HS math) & see what is necessary in their mathematical foundation.
#flipclass
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:14 PM EST
They are an acquired taste for me.
#flipclass
In reply to @ken_bauer, @guster4lovers, @knightbio1
wjmarkert
Dec 5 @ 8:15 PM EST
A2: It's hard to answer this when so many come to class lacking mastery of prerequisite knowledge.
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slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:15 PM EST
Isn't that true for any classroom set up? If you lecture, and Ss tune you out, you will eventually have to reteach.
#flipclass
In reply to @bohndrake
Misshanf
Dec 5 @ 8:15 PM EST
A2: I don't know if there is specific content that students have to know to succeed. I think everything they learn is important
#flipclass
knightbio1
Dec 5 @ 8:16 PM EST
Same types of ?s always seem to appear on state test yr after yr. Those r definitely focused on.
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In reply to @wjmarkert, @guster4lovers
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:16 PM EST
A2: my Ss need to write functionally; they need to know some photoshop, google suite, basic video editg, how to tell if fake news
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slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:16 PM EST
A2:
#flipclass
I used the Alg 1 standards, that are required for the state test.
bohndrake
Dec 5 @ 8:17 PM EST
that's for sure ! But they miss out on a big advantage of a
#flipclass
- no late night projects !
In reply to @slm12
katiedroeszler
Dec 5 @ 8:17 PM EST
A2- Students need to master the skill of listening and pulling the main points from a given topic
#flipclass
JJBackeberg
Dec 5 @ 8:17 PM EST
is
@jonbergmann
around to talk mastery with us?
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In reply to @jonbergmann
wjmarkert
Dec 5 @ 8:17 PM EST
Luckily my subject isn't a test subject. So I get to determine what is important for future classes.
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In reply to @knightbio1, @guster4lovers
slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:18 PM EST
I LOVE
#flipclass
and setting routine, Ss know expectations. My classes are asynchronous as well. HW is a non issue as well.
In reply to @bohndrake
tcesarski
Dec 5 @ 8:18 PM EST
what do you do if Ss don't do their homework and learn the material w/
#flipclass
In reply to @slm12, @bohndrake
knightbio1
Dec 5 @ 8:18 PM EST
YES! Ss that lack time management skills tend to have lower scores in a
#flipclass
mastery. Working on helping them w/ that skill
In reply to @bohndrake
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:18 PM EST
A2: For me, the writing/analysis/summarising skills are vital to master. Structure of feudal Europe? Not so much.
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thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:18 PM EST
You could just eliminate the HW part.
#flipclass
In reply to @tcesarski, @slm12, @bohndrake
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:19 PM EST
You're going to want
@bennettscience
for that one.
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In reply to @JJBackeberg, @bennettscience
slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:19 PM EST
Honestly, it's a non issue for me. My Ss do it. Watching a 10 min video isn't asking too much!
#flipclass
In reply to @tcesarski, @bohndrake
MickieGibbs2
Dec 5 @ 8:19 PM EST
YES! I find my focus being more & more can you organize and explain your thoughts so someone else can follow?
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In reply to @guster4lovers
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:19 PM EST
I think that's something we have to teach tho. I do that w/lots of short assignments. Build up endurance
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In reply to @knightbio1, @bohndrake
slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:20 PM EST
Which I can heart this comment 1000 times!!
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In reply to @thomasson_engl, @tcesarski, @bohndrake
bohndrake
Dec 5 @ 8:20 PM EST
contract grading, if all hw in they can redo tests/quizzes-they will use class time to make up hw for that!
#flipclass
In reply to @tcesarski, @slm12
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:20 PM EST
We're working at it. it's a slow process.
#flipclass
In reply to @braveneutrino
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:20 PM EST
Exactly. If they can do claim-evidence-commentary, I am happy. Even if they can't do it from memory w/history
#flipclass
In reply to @MickieGibbs2
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:21 PM EST
Using
@guster4lovers
Google Search Challenges for this process.
https://t.co/EwXnZfzhwr
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In reply to @braveneutrino, @guster4lovers
knightbio1
Dec 5 @ 8:21 PM EST
A2: in a Bio class, I want Ss to have be good at asking questions “especially Why?” & be open to using math to make conclusions
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slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:21 PM EST
I teach Adv. Alg 2, so similar type of Ss. I will add that my Ss get no points for completing HW either.
#flipclass
In reply to @tcesarski, @bohndrake
EduGladiators
Dec 5 @ 8:22 PM EST
TONIGHT
#EduGladiators
LIVE Podcast w/
@maverikcrq
▶️
https://t.co/SiWKy86gkd
#Admin2B
#cdnedchat
#edtechchat
#flipclass
#LearnLAP
#MASSPchat
braveneutrino
Dec 5 @ 8:22 PM EST
I work with T.H.E. most amazing HS math mastery
#sbl
T. Sadly, not a Twitter person
#flipclass
In reply to @thomasson_engl, @JJBackeberg, @bennettscience
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:22 PM EST
Q3: What practices/pedagogy are necessary to support mastery learning in
#flipclass
? Do any of those practices/pedagogy stop you frm trying?
slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:22 PM EST
Well, you need to make him more amazing and get him onto twitter!!
#flipclass
In reply to @braveneutrino, @thomasson_engl, @JJBackeberg, @bennettscience
braveneutrino
Dec 5 @ 8:23 PM EST
It is S.O. important. You know that, but I'm just saying it out loud.
#flipclass
In reply to @thomasson_engl
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:23 PM EST
My kids are getting really good at it! Today was #11
#flipclass
In reply to @thomasson_engl, @braveneutrino
MickieGibbs2
Dec 5 @ 8:24 PM EST
A3: There has to be a process for reteach/relearn/redo. Takes TIME but most often worth it.
#flipclass
knightbio1
Dec 5 @ 8:24 PM EST
Im now having Ss come into classroom during SH to stay caught up.
#Flipclass
Some Ss like to surf web, not do sci
In reply to @guster4lovers, @bohndrake
katiedroeszler
Dec 5 @ 8:24 PM EST
I agree! It is important for students to have their own inquiries and ask their own questions
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In reply to @knightbio1
braveneutrino
Dec 5 @ 8:25 PM EST
You are so creative!
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In reply to @guster4lovers, @thomasson_engl
knightbio1
Dec 5 @ 8:25 PM EST
My
#Flipclass
mastery doesn’t have homework. All learning done in class.
In reply to @tcesarski, @slm12, @bohndrake
michellegitlin
Dec 5 @ 8:26 PM EST
Hello, sorry I am late. My name is Michelle Gitlin. I am a preservice student from UW-Platteville.
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slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:26 PM EST
A3:
#flipclass
There has to be a way for Ss to practice, test, re-practice, retest, etc. That cycle has to be available until mastery
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:26 PM EST
#DontCallItLate
#CallItAsynchronousChatting
#flipclass
:-) Welcome!
In reply to @michellegitlin
MickieGibbs2
Dec 5 @ 8:27 PM EST
I wish my Ss understood that a primary reason for ANY class - mine, ELA, etc - is for them to learn to COMMUNICATE
#flipclass
In reply to @guster4lovers
bohndrake
Dec 5 @ 8:27 PM EST
No hw is great, but if it's essential the pt of a
#flipclass
was that something was flipped with something, but something for nothing.
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:27 PM EST
Great to have you here. What level/subject you studying to teach?
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In reply to @michellegitlin
slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:27 PM EST
My
#flipclass
mastery class never had HW either. Everything was done in front of me. My non-mastery does!
In reply to @knightbio1, @tcesarski, @bohndrake
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:27 PM EST
Q4: What scares you (and/or students) about mastery?
#flipclass
#BeHonest
#BeBrave
wjmarkert
Dec 5 @ 8:27 PM EST
A3:True mastery would not have to consider grading periods. And students could continue a class until mastered and go on to next.
#flipclass
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:28 PM EST
A4 I don't have enough hands for all those balls that have to be in the air at once.
#flipclass
#spatula
#butforrealthough
jbretzmann
Dec 5 @ 8:28 PM EST
Just got home from shopping for ingredients, bringing in tree, & adjusting outside lights
@JJBackeberg
@Misshanf
@katiedroeszler
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In reply to @JJBackeberg, @Misshanf, @katiedroeszler
braveneutrino
Dec 5 @ 8:28 PM EST
Our HS has SMART lunch which enables Ss to retake/practice several times a week
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MickieGibbs2
Dec 5 @ 8:28 PM EST
A5: for me, as with most worthwhile stuff: TIME. Ss: time & effort required
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thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:28 PM EST
Uphill in the snow, no doubt.
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In reply to @jbretzmann, @JJBackeberg, @Misshanf, @katiedroeszler
slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:28 PM EST
A4:
#flipclass
When I initiated it, I was worried about Ss falling behind. Once routines were placed, a few did but not many.
knightbio1
Dec 5 @ 8:28 PM EST
Welcome Michelle. Another pre-service teacher. Are all the pre-service Ts learning about
#Flipclass
in college?
In reply to @michellegitlin
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:29 PM EST
Or do you have a really awesome professor asking you to join us? :-)
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In reply to @knightbio1, @michellegitlin
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:29 PM EST
Dunno. It's college exam week down in these parts.
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In reply to @knightbio1, @michellegitlin
knightbio1
Dec 5 @ 8:29 PM EST
Same here!
#Flipclass
In reply to @slm12, @tcesarski, @bohndrake
jbretzmann
Dec 5 @ 8:29 PM EST
1/2 inch of snow, & no hill, but we're all getting older
#harderwork
@thomasson_engl
@JJBackeberg
@Misshanf
@katiedroeszler
#flipclass
In reply to @thomasson_engl, @JJBackeberg, @Misshanf, @katiedroeszler
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:30 PM EST
Pretty sure that's what the kids are for.
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In reply to @jbretzmann, @JJBackeberg, @Misshanf, @katiedroeszler
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:30 PM EST
The "flip" can be to Ss-cntrd lrning, to new cycles of lrning, to rsponsblty for learning from T2S.
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= HW is reductive
In reply to @bohndrake
jbretzmann
Dec 5 @ 8:30 PM EST
What's the topic?
@thomasson_engl
@JJBackeberg
@Misshanf
@katiedroeszler
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In reply to @thomasson_engl, @JJBackeberg, @Misshanf, @katiedroeszler
JJBackeberg
Dec 5 @ 8:30 PM EST
A4: I worry about Ss falling behind/not getting through the content
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slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:30 PM EST
My son is stressed over his "jury. Essentially a final exam that is solo performance.
#flipclass
In reply to @thomasson_engl, @knightbio1, @michellegitlin
JJBackeberg
Dec 5 @ 8:30 PM EST
Mastery in a
#flipclass
In reply to @jbretzmann, @thomasson_engl, @Misshanf, @katiedroeszler
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:30 PM EST
Mastery learning!
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In reply to @jbretzmann, @thomasson_engl, @JJBackeberg, @Misshanf, @katiedroeszler
katiedroeszler
Dec 5 @ 8:31 PM EST
A4-Time. I am scared I will not spend enough time on a given topic for my students to master it
#flipclass
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:31 PM EST
Specifically, what scares you about it? Q4
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In reply to @jbretzmann
JJBackeberg
Dec 5 @ 8:31 PM EST
we had 2-3 inches around the Dells
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In reply to @jbretzmann, @thomasson_engl, @Misshanf, @katiedroeszler
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:31 PM EST
That's awesome. It's also.... (drumroll) DEMONSTRATION OF MASTERY!!!
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In reply to @slm12, @knightbio1, @michellegitlin
michellegitlin
Dec 5 @ 8:31 PM EST
I agree, and I think it is okay for us to pick and choose. Children don't need to be drowned with tons of info.
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In reply to @guster4lovers
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:31 PM EST
(Nor do teachers.)
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In reply to @michellegitlin, @guster4lovers
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:32 PM EST
I think we HAVE to pick & choose. I can't do 14 billion years of history in 1 like CA says I should
#flipclass
In reply to @michellegitlin
slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:32 PM EST
which is one reason why a
#flipclass
asynchronous class is helpful. You teach, they practice, some move on, others don't.
In reply to @katiedroeszler
jbretzmann
Dec 5 @ 8:32 PM EST
Well the 7YO vacuumed needles w/o any asking.
#progress
@thomasson_engl
@JJBackeberg
@Misshanf
@katiedroeszler
#flipclass
In reply to @thomasson_engl, @JJBackeberg, @Misshanf, @katiedroeszler
katiedroeszler
Dec 5 @ 8:32 PM EST
I did a research paper and presentation over the
#flipclass
and curious for more info
In reply to @knightbio1, @michellegitlin
JJBackeberg
Dec 5 @ 8:32 PM EST
I'd count that as a wing
#flipclass
In reply to @jbretzmann, @thomasson_engl, @Misshanf, @katiedroeszler
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:32 PM EST
There's def a lot of info in this group.
#flipclass
In reply to @katiedroeszler, @knightbio1, @michellegitlin
slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:33 PM EST
LOL!
#flipclass
In reply to @guster4lovers, @jbretzmann
slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:33 PM EST
Talking mastery!
#flipclass
In reply to @jbretzmann, @thomasson_engl, @JJBackeberg, @Misshanf, @katiedroeszler
jbretzmann
Dec 5 @ 8:33 PM EST
Thanks
@guster4lovers
A4: I'd say what's scary about mastery learning is 1.Will they master? 2.What about pacing?
#flipclass
In reply to @guster4lovers
slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:34 PM EST
I guess he is playing a really difficult piece on the upright bass. He'll master it.
#flipclass
In reply to @thomasson_engl, @knightbio1, @michellegitlin
Misshanf
Dec 5 @ 8:34 PM EST
A4: Students not being able to keep up!
#flipclass
jonbergmann
Dec 5 @ 8:34 PM EST
Mastery was the single best thing I did with
#flipclass
In reply to @jbretzmann, @guster4lovers
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:34 PM EST
A4: I'll admit that I still struggle w/mastery bc they need SO MANY SKILLZ but also need content & impossible to do all of it
#flipclass
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:35 PM EST
That is a pretty perfect 140 character answer to what most of us said. Thanks!
#flipclass
In reply to @jbretzmann
knightbio1
Dec 5 @ 8:35 PM EST
A4: My originale “fear” of
#Flipclass
Mastery was making sure all Ss reached mastery in the content. Decided to focus on Science practices
MickieGibbs2
Dec 5 @ 8:35 PM EST
What about collaboration? Does some of that get lost when every S is working on his/her own thing?
#flipclass
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:35 PM EST
So what advice would you give Ts starting out, especially dealing with Ss in wildly diff places?
#flipclass
In reply to @jonbergmann, @jbretzmann
jonbergmann
Dec 5 @ 8:35 PM EST
I have written extensively about
#flipclass
&
#mastery
at
https://t.co/RoQZhZalj0
jbretzmann
Dec 5 @ 8:35 PM EST
Agree. My Ss show initial understanding by talking w/ me & create mastery product on 1 Learn Objectiv
@jonbergmann
@guster4lovers
#flipclass
In reply to @jonbergmann, @guster4lovers
knightbio1
Dec 5 @ 8:36 PM EST
is like a Genie. Someone calls his name and all of a sudden appears
#flipclass
In reply to @jonbergmann
slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:36 PM EST
It did, I admit. I did have Ss helping Ss (because there weren't enough of me!) which was awesome to watch.
#flipclass
In reply to @MickieGibbs2
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:36 PM EST
YES-This is why I stopped moving towards asynchronous mastery. So much of my class is abt learning same thing@ once
#flipclass
In reply to @MickieGibbs2
wjmarkert
Dec 5 @ 8:36 PM EST
A4:Time, pacing, district requirements.
#flipclass
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:36 PM EST
This is my biggest struggle... how to have the collab checkpoints/conversations
#flipclass
In reply to @MickieGibbs2
jonbergmann
Dec 5 @ 8:36 PM EST
Make sure you learn about the logistics of
#mastery
b4 you start.
#flipclass
In reply to @guster4lovers, @jbretzmann
knightbio1
Dec 5 @ 8:38 PM EST
I typically have several students at any given stage on learning. Rarely is a student working alone
#flipclass
In reply to @guster4lovers, @MickieGibbs2
MickieGibbs2
Dec 5 @ 8:38 PM EST
I really love the whole-class aspects of my class. I don't want to lose that.
#flipclass
In reply to @guster4lovers
jonbergmann
Dec 5 @ 8:38 PM EST
I'm talking to
#flipclass
leaders in
#China
right now.
#multitasking
In reply to @knightbio1
michellegitlin
Dec 5 @ 8:38 PM EST
A2: I think it is important for Ss to have a desire and an open mind to learning, then anything can be a success.
#flipclass
gavlewisdesign
Dec 5 @ 8:38 PM EST
A3: A unique way to teach code: overlay ppt slides w/ partially completed code onto video w/ a lightboard
#flipclass
https://t.co/S1K63bjezN
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:38 PM EST
Q5: How do Ss respond to a mastery classroom? Is it easier or harder (than traditional learning) for most of your Ss?
#flipclass
jbretzmann
Dec 5 @ 8:39 PM EST
Make sure all are moving. Mastery w/ movement in AP class means some master more. That's OK
@guster4lovers
@jonbergmann
#flipclass
In reply to @guster4lovers, @jonbergmann
matthew_t_moore
Dec 5 @ 8:39 PM EST
At RSAC conference with new principal and a team and mastery seems more in reach with admin support
#flipclass
knightbio1
Dec 5 @ 8:39 PM EST
What time is it there?
#flipclass
In reply to @jonbergmann
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:39 PM EST
What are some of those logistics? We have some new people here who'd like to know.
#flipclass
In reply to @jonbergmann, @guster4lovers, @jbretzmann
jonbergmann
Dec 5 @ 8:39 PM EST
9am on Tuesday. But I am in Chicago now.
#flipclass
In reply to @knightbio1
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:39 PM EST
Exactly. My Ss are reading novel semi-self-paced but tomorrow we talk abt ending. Very excited to have all Ss there
#flipclass
In reply to @MickieGibbs2
wjmarkert
Dec 5 @ 8:40 PM EST
A5:Takes time to adjust. Ss used to "traditional model." Mastery means more accountability.
#flipclass
matthew_t_moore
Dec 5 @ 8:40 PM EST
Great example of flip mastery opportunity
#flipclass
jbretzmann
Dec 5 @ 8:39 PM EST
Make sure all are moving. Mastery w/ movement in AP class means some master more. That's OK
@guster4lovers
@jonbergmann
#flipclass
In reply to @guster4lovers, @jonbergmann
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:40 PM EST
Yeah. They can't just slide on through
#flipclass
In reply to @wjmarkert
slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:40 PM EST
A5:
#flipclass
When I asked my Ss, which were the lowest level math Ss, they liked having the choice and the time and the 1-1 with me.
jonbergmann
Dec 5 @ 8:41 PM EST
Lots of logistics. Read my stuff--this is a very long answer.
#flipclass
In reply to @thomasson_engl, @guster4lovers, @jbretzmann
JJBackeberg
Dec 5 @ 8:42 PM EST
#flipclass
@jonbergmann
level 1 flip cert said level 2 would deal a lot with mastery...any news as to when that'll be public?
#flipclass
In reply to @jonbergmann
knightbio1
Dec 5 @ 8:42 PM EST
A5: I use
#flipclass
mastery w/ Ss who struggle. Most have embraced the class b/c learning takes place at their pace.
slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:42 PM EST
That's very true too!
#flipclass
In reply to @knightbio1, @guster4lovers, @MickieGibbs2
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:43 PM EST
A5: A lot of Ss find it slightly annoying that I make them repeat skills to mastery. And my version of mastery&theirs is not same
#flipclass
MickieGibbs2
Dec 5 @ 8:43 PM EST
I can see this being an issue. Particularly with MS &/or low-motivation S.
#flipclass
In reply to @guster4lovers
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:43 PM EST
Do you have issues w/Ss trying to speed up/slow down to be with friends? Some of my 7th grdrs do
#flipclass
In reply to @slm12, @knightbio1, @MickieGibbs2
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:44 PM EST
This is one of the things I learned from Make It Stick - humans are really bad at knowing whn they know something.
#flipclass
In reply to @guster4lovers
jbretzmann
Dec 5 @ 8:44 PM EST
Lots of logistics. What needs to be mastered?How will you know? How can Ss go deeper after mastery?What do all do
#flipclass
In reply to @thomasson_engl
slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:44 PM EST
Hmm...if I did, I didn't realize it.
#flipclass
In reply to @guster4lovers, @knightbio1, @MickieGibbs2
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:44 PM EST
It's why I'm slightly more critical when Ts say "Ss assess their own mastery!" For my Ss, that doesn't always work
#flipclass
In reply to @MickieGibbs2
katiedroeszler
Dec 5 @ 8:44 PM EST
A5- Mastery in a
#flipclass
may be easier cuz Ss can go back and rewatch if they need to and learn at own pace
knightbio1
Dec 5 @ 8:45 PM EST
Oh yes, but as long as they are meeting their goals, I’m OK with that
#flipclass
In reply to @guster4lovers, @slm12, @MickieGibbs2
MickieGibbs2
Dec 5 @ 8:45 PM EST
& what kind of issues with cheating? "You already did this...what'd you get?"
#flipclass
In reply to @guster4lovers, @slm12, @knightbio1
slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:45 PM EST
I don't think Ss understand what mastery is, so I agree with you.
#flipclass
In reply to @guster4lovers, @MickieGibbs2
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:45 PM EST
That would just entail someone who understands teaching someone who doesnt?
#flipclass
In reply to @MickieGibbs2, @guster4lovers, @slm12, @knightbio1
jbretzmann
Dec 5 @ 8:45 PM EST
There are no friends in
#flipclass
It's totally cut throat!
#NotTrue
!!!
@guster4lovers
@slm12
@knightbio1
@MickieGibbs2
In reply to @guster4lovers, @slm12, @knightbio1, @MickieGibbs2
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:46 PM EST
I don't see a ton of cheating, tho I see lots of "Oh, let me explain it to you" instead
#flipclass
In reply to @MickieGibbs2, @slm12, @knightbio1
MickieGibbs2
Dec 5 @ 8:46 PM EST
My Ss LOVE the ability to go back and watch videos!
#flipclass
In reply to @katiedroeszler
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:46 PM EST
It does make those particular logistics easier.
#flipclass
@guster4lovers
In reply to @katiedroeszler, @guster4lovers
MickieGibbs2
Dec 5 @ 8:46 PM EST
unless the someone who doesn't is "mooching" and not really trying to understand.
#flipclass
In reply to @thomasson_engl
JJBackeberg
Dec 5 @ 8:47 PM EST
#flipclass
i see mastery as an opportunity to really focus on the learning instead of just the answers
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:47 PM EST
I mean, it's the same for me! I think I'm a good writer, but then I read
@ANNELAMOTT
& realise SO FAR TO GO
#flipclass
In reply to @slm12, @MickieGibbs2, @ANNELAMOTT
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:47 PM EST
#flipclass
messes up the idea of the bell curve.
jbretzmann
Dec 5 @ 8:47 PM EST
.
@guster4lovers
That's a tough one, but in my humble opinion, you're doing it right. Your Ss are super lucky.
#flipclass
In reply to @guster4lovers
slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:47 PM EST
Never had that issue, bc Ss weren't given back things until all finished that concept.
#flipclass
In reply to @MickieGibbs2, @guster4lovers, @knightbio1
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:47 PM EST
Bell curve used to be good teaching/rigor. Now, it's a sign that 2/3 of the class can't do the thing. That's a problem.
#flipclass
MickieGibbs2
Dec 5 @ 8:47 PM EST
Since
#flipclass
- even not full mastery - I see a lot less cheating than I used to. Just wondered....
In reply to @guster4lovers, @slm12, @knightbio1
knightbio1
Dec 5 @ 8:47 PM EST
My biggest issue was during mastery checks. Now Ss must tell me when they are taking quiz.
#flipclass
In reply to @MickieGibbs2, @guster4lovers, @slm12
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:48 PM EST
Oh yeah. I don't have bell curves. it's more like a straight line the very slightly trends up at the end
#flipclass
In reply to @thomasson_engl
slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:48 PM EST
I always conferenced with the Ss, but didn't given things back.
#flipclass
In reply to @MickieGibbs2, @guster4lovers, @knightbio1
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:48 PM EST
It's hard to cheat on thoughtfully designed assignments w/scaffolding
#flipclass
In reply to @MickieGibbs2, @slm12, @knightbio1
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:49 PM EST
(that essentially compel Ss to explain their thinking)
#flipclass
In reply to @guster4lovers, @MickieGibbs2, @slm12, @knightbio1
MickieGibbs2
Dec 5 @ 8:49 PM EST
true. And my Ss have learned (are learning) the goal is not to finish but learn.
#flipclass
In reply to @guster4lovers, @slm12, @knightbio1
jbretzmann
Dec 5 @ 8:50 PM EST
My Ss in social studies must master content & show it Skills are means to an end.
@MickieGibbs2
@guster4lovers
@slm12
@knightbio1
#flipclass
In reply to @MickieGibbs2, @guster4lovers, @slm12, @knightbio1
knightbio1
Dec 5 @ 8:50 PM EST
Had 2 Ss today trying to google an answer on an assignment. They couldn’t find it
#flipclass
In reply to @guster4lovers, @MickieGibbs2, @slm12
michellegitlin
Dec 5 @ 8:50 PM EST
A4: I am worried about not giving my students what they need to succeed, ex: time.
#flipclass
MickieGibbs2
Dec 5 @ 8:50 PM EST
That's a sign of a good assignment!
#flipclass
In reply to @knightbio1, @guster4lovers, @slm12
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:50 PM EST
Was it bc it was a well-written question or poor Google skillz? Or both? :-)
#flipclass
In reply to @knightbio1, @MickieGibbs2, @slm12
jonbergmann
Dec 5 @ 8:50 PM EST
Level 2 is under development now. No date set for launch yet.
#flipclass
In reply to @JJBackeberg
jonbergmann
Dec 5 @ 8:51 PM EST
#flipclass
Sorry to have to jump out: My wife and I are playing Dominion & she is more important :)
knightbio1
Dec 5 @ 8:51 PM EST
They were being asked 2 give evidence & provide reason 4 their claim.
#flipclass
#NotEverythingIsOnline
In reply to @guster4lovers, @MickieGibbs2, @slm12
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:51 PM EST
Q6: What questions or comments do you have about mastery learning in a
#flipclass
?
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:51 PM EST
You do what you can with who and what you have. You have to let the rest of it go.
#flipclass
In reply to @michellegitlin
slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:51 PM EST
She better be!!
#flipclass
In reply to @jonbergmann
jbretzmann
Dec 5 @ 8:52 PM EST
Exactly. It's all about the learning
#flipclass
In reply to @JJBackeberg
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:52 PM EST
You want to make sure that every kid can do more things at the end f the class than they cld do at the beginning.
#flipclass
In reply to @michellegitlin
JJBackeberg
Dec 5 @ 8:52 PM EST
always nice to have you with us!
#flipclass
In reply to @jonbergmann
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:52 PM EST
Yeah - those are the best. LOVE that other subcts are doing claim/evidence/commentary
#flipclass
#HelpELATs
In reply to @knightbio1, @MickieGibbs2, @slm12
MickieGibbs2
Dec 5 @ 8:53 PM EST
A6: I'm not to full
#flipclass
mastery, YET. But I have learned the last few yrs that I can change & change BIG. When it's time, I'll do it.
slm12
Dec 5 @ 8:53 PM EST
And we love watching you change big!
#flipclass
In reply to @MickieGibbs2
katiedroeszler
Dec 5 @ 8:53 PM EST
A6- How do we make mastery in the classroom a more approachable and comfortable thing for students
#flipclass
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:54 PM EST
Goal is to produce ppl who can thoughtfully analyse & apply critical lenses to information, and who vote intelligently
#flipclass
In reply to @hayclass6
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:54 PM EST
But I'd be curious to hear yours too!
#flipclass
In reply to @hayclass6
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:54 PM EST
Repetition.
#flipclass
In reply to @katiedroeszler
MickieGibbs2
Dec 5 @ 8:54 PM EST
This should be everyone's teaching motto!
#flipclass
In reply to @thomasson_engl, @michellegitlin
wjmarkert
Dec 5 @ 8:54 PM EST
A6:I like the idea of choosing only some standards for mastery (instead of all). Have some thinking/planning to do!
#flipclass
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:55 PM EST
+1000
#flipclass
In reply to @guster4lovers, @hayclass6
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:55 PM EST
I figured! :-) Hopefully we didn't scare you off!
#flipclass
In reply to @michellegitlin, @knightbio1
jbretzmann
Dec 5 @ 8:55 PM EST
:) We just started asking Alexa for easy stuff. Now we can move on to thinking
@knightbio1
@guster4lovers
@MickieGibbs2
@slm12
#flipclass
In reply to @knightbio1, @guster4lovers, @MickieGibbs2, @slm12
knightbio1
Dec 5 @ 8:55 PM EST
You picked a good one
#flipclass
In reply to @michellegitlin, @guster4lovers
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:55 PM EST
Same
#flipclass
In reply to @guster4lovers, @hayclass6
MickieGibbs2
Dec 5 @ 8:55 PM EST
Awww...thanks. Wouldn't & couldn't have done what I've done without my
#flipclass
family.
In reply to @slm12
rupertdenton
Dec 5 @ 8:56 PM EST
We have trapped
@MrLeCornu
and
@ward_mr
inside a headset. Yup
#vr
#flipclass
is happening.
@ClickView
In reply to @MrLeCornu, @ward_mr, @ClickView
JJBackeberg
Dec 5 @ 8:56 PM EST
A6: i know that I have a lot more work to do before I could move to mastery
#flipclass
#maybesomeday
knightbio1
Dec 5 @ 8:57 PM EST
#Flipclass
Mastery is a process
In reply to @JJBackeberg
Dawes336
Dec 5 @ 8:58 PM EST
Passion Project leads to true passion.
#sewing
#whowouldguess
#flipclass
#20time
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:58 PM EST
Thank you for joining us tonight! So glad to see so many new and familiar faces. See you all for
#flipclass
chat next week!
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:59 PM EST
That is ALL of the amazing!
#flipclass
In reply to @Dawes336
thomasson_engl
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:59 PM EST
You're amazing, homie. Glad you stuck your head in the door.
#flipclass
In reply to @Dawes336
MickieGibbs2
Dec 5 @ 8:59 PM EST
Thanks for moderating,
@guster4lovers
@thomasson_engl
#flipclass
In reply to @guster4lovers, @thomasson_engl
guster4lovers
- Moderator
Dec 5 @ 8:59 PM EST
Well make sure to ask if you have questions. We love having new people!
#flipclass
In reply to @michellegitlin
jbretzmann
Dec 5 @ 8:59 PM EST
A6: Can you explain the "commentary" part of claim/evidence/commentary? Is it like personal reflection, or explanation?
#flipclass
Dawes336
Dec 5 @ 9:00 PM EST
wouldn't have found it if I didn't meet all of you!
#flipclass
#thegatewaydrug
In reply to @thomasson_engl