#425chat Archive

This is a chat for football coaches to discuss the 4-2-5 defense on Thursday at 8PM CT

Thursday November 29, 2018
9:00 PM EST

  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Go ahead and take the first couple minutes to introduce yourself! Don’t forget to include the hashtag on ALL your answers otherwise nobody will see them! Example: Name School Position/title #425chat
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Welcome coach! #425chat
  • Skillutt28 Nov 29 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Jeff Lutt GBLB Coach & DC Great Bend High, KS Completed Season #21 #425chat
  • CoachFitzHSS Nov 29 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Shawn Fitzsimonds Hayfield Secondary School Alexandria, VA You name it! #425Chat
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Welcome back coach! #425chat
    • Skillutt28 Nov 29 @ 9:01 PM EST
      Jeff Lutt GBLB Coach & DC Great Bend High, KS Completed Season #21 #425chat
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Secondary school! I see what ya did there! Lol #425chat
    In reply to @CoachFitzHSS
  • CoachCCase Nov 29 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Cody Case LB Coach Riverside Military Academy Gainesville, GA #425chat
  • FPCoach_Purvis Nov 29 @ 9:02 PM EST
    #425chat Joseph Purvis Franklin Parish HS DC/LB Coach
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Just was messaging ya but welcome to #425chat
    In reply to @FPCoach_Purvis
  • RcoachV Nov 29 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Roger Vinson Secondary Coach South Central HS (Greenville N.C.) #425chat
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:03 PM EST
    The man right here! #425chat
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Welcome coach! #425chat
    • RcoachV Nov 29 @ 9:03 PM EST
      Roger Vinson Secondary Coach South Central HS (Greenville N.C.) #425chat
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Give it a couple minutes and we will start with question 1! #425chat
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Don’t forget to use the #425chat hashtag so others can see your tweets coach
    In reply to @BadAsianQB, @vera_jr
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Q1: What is your base/favorite/go to coverage? Why do you feel it is the best coverage? #425chat
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:09 PM EST
    It has started! Question number 👆🏻is up! #425chat
  • BadAsianQB Nov 29 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: Cover 3. I coach women and foreigners and it offers simplicity and flexibility. At this level, most teams aren't also as prolific at passing so playing 2-high as a base isn't necessary #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • Hayden108John Nov 29 @ 9:10 PM EST
    John Hayden - Decatur St. Teresa - Def. Coordinator -Coach Wr & DB's #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Welcome coach! #425chat
    • Hayden108John Nov 29 @ 9:10 PM EST
      John Hayden - Decatur St. Teresa - Def. Coordinator -Coach Wr & DB's #425chat
      In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:11 PM EST
    #425chat
    • FPCoach_Purvis Nov 29 @ 9:10 PM EST
      A1: has been as press c2 due to the timing disruption of the #1 WR which allows for the DL/Blitz time to get to QB and helps the SS/FS lean hard on the #2 WRvertical
      In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • Kickslide Nov 29 @ 9:11 PM EST
    #425chat Smoney Smonson... Head Coach... ( offensive guy stealing stuff from you guys) lol
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • FPCoach_Purvis Nov 29 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1: has been as press c2 due to the timing disruption of the #1 WR which allows for the DL/Blitz time to get to QB and helps the SS/FS lean hard on the #2 WRvertical #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:11 PM EST
    #425chat ain’t nothing wrong with getting better coach. Welcome!
    • CoachDiaz Nov 29 @ 9:11 PM EST
      Eric Diaz Running Backs Coach Liberty Christian School Argyle, Texas Former DC/LB coach Lurking to see what you're up to
  • CoachDiaz Nov 29 @ 9:12 PM EST
    #425chat
    • CoachDiaz Nov 29 @ 9:11 PM EST
      Eric Diaz Running Backs Coach Liberty Christian School Argyle, Texas Former DC/LB coach Lurking to see what you're up to
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:12 PM EST
    #425chat
    • DevinCarlee5 Nov 29 @ 9:11 PM EST
      A1: Our base coverage is match quarters. We feel this matches to any route concept. Although, we turn anything “fast to the flats” into 2 Read and let the corner blow up the flats. If the route extends past our “fast to the flats” rule, we just simply play match quarters
      In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • godalwayzfam1st Nov 29 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Kyle Suttles, DC/OLBcoach Northwest HS, Grand Island, NE!#RTB #425chat
  • CoachCCase Nov 29 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: 2-Read/Blue or whatever you want to call it. Both corner and safety read number 2 to determine their responsibilities. Nickel will play flat if he's on that side. Keeps us fluid, not a static, and we can get a lot of movement pre-snap while staying that coverage. #425chat
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Welcome coach! #425chat
    In reply to @Hayden108John
  • CoachFitzHSS Nov 29 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1: Quarters Accounts for anything out of most popular formation we see (2x2), with an easy 3x1 adjustment (Solo) #425Chat
  • DevinCarlee5 Nov 29 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1: Our base coverage is match quarters. We feel this matches to any route concept. Although we turn anything “fast to the flats” into 2 Read and let the corner blow up the flats. If the route extends past our “fast to the flats” rule, we just simply play match quarters #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Love it coach! Don’t forget the #425chat hashtag
    In reply to @vera_jr
  • BadAsianQB Nov 29 @ 9:14 PM EST
    I'm prepping for a switch next year to the offensive side 🤣 #425chat
    In reply to @Kickslide, @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Great answers so far! Continue to talk to your coaching peers and question 2 is coming up! #425chat
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:14 PM EST
    #425chat
    In reply to @BDWilliams18
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:14 PM EST
    #425chat
    In reply to @RcoachV
  • DevinCarlee5 Nov 29 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Our 3x1 adjust is solo as well. We also play trace which is the same but we use the star to lock up #3. 3rd option is special, lock up #1 and play 2 Read over #2 & #3. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachFitzHSS
  • CoachCason1 Nov 29 @ 9:15 PM EST
    #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Love it coach. Especially at the HS level! #425chat
    In reply to @CoachFitzHSS
  • godalwayzfam1st Nov 29 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1: Base is Cov3. Most of the teams we NEED TO BEAT, are power run teams, we don't need 2 high as our base. #425chat
  • Skillutt28 Nov 29 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1. Cov 3 & Cov 1. Depends on D&D. Allows us to stay aggressive and fits well with our front 6. #425chat
  • CoachCCase Nov 29 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1 cont: I like having split coverage, so I can run 2 separate calls at once and not lock myself into one call across the board. #425chat
  • BDWilliams18 Nov 29 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Inverted cover 2 robber. Robber safety can take away basic RPO and apex players can cover down and re-route the slot. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • BadAsianQB Nov 29 @ 9:16 PM EST
    To caveat though. Against teams that love Trips, I love Cover 6 as a base because it splits the field up and simplifies assignments. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Loving some single high safeties coach! #425chat
    In reply to @Skillutt28
  • runyan10c Nov 29 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Cheaney Runyan. Free Agent Coach. Indianapolis IN. Always trying to learn and stay sharp. #425chat
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:16 PM EST
    #425chat
    In reply to @Hayden108John
  • FPCoach_Purvis Nov 29 @ 9:17 PM EST
    We will be transitioning from a 2 press to a match zone, feel it will help us become more productive in the passing def and allows us to insert an extra box defender faster #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Don’t forget to use the #425chat hashtag in ALL tweets so everyone can see it!
  • Hayden108John Nov 29 @ 9:17 PM EST
    #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachDiG Nov 29 @ 9:17 PM EST
    @CoachKelleyCHHS Vin DiGaetano NY Maritime College @NYMaritimeFB Head FB Coach #425chat
  • CoachQuedenfeld Nov 29 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Palms vs 2x2; Triyo w/cloud or slice (depends on RB align) vs 3x1; Cluster vs bunch formations #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Q2: Have you made some tweaks or alterations to the traditional versions of your base coverage? What was it and why’d you do it? #425chat don’t forget to put A2 in your answers!
  • mikestauffer Nov 29 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A1: 2 Read. Pattern match; can play split field coverage; limit explosive plays; keep everything under you and rally to the ball. #425chat
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Big time tackle GURU here! #425chat
    In reply to @CoachDiG, @NYMaritimeFB
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Welcome coach! #425chat
    • runyan10c Nov 29 @ 9:16 PM EST
      Cheaney Runyan. Free Agent Coach. Indianapolis IN. Always trying to learn and stay sharp. #425chat
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:19 PM EST
    #425chat
    • NairnCraig Nov 29 @ 9:19 PM EST
      A1: 2 read or TCU blue. Mostly depends on formation, number of backs, game plan.
      In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachDiG Nov 29 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Has become match 3 puts bodies on bodies can mix with man #425Chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • Hayden108John Nov 29 @ 9:20 PM EST
    #425chat https://t.co/WwqTY8BluT
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS, @RcoachV
    • Hayden108John Nov 29 @ 9:16 PM EST
      Our base coverage is what we call Sit ✓. Not a certain coverage. FS is making coverage call based on formation & field position per game plan. Allows FS to make our calls against any formation to get us lined up right which is my #1 priority
      In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • runyan10c Nov 29 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Quarters. Or Inverted 2 Robber. #425Chat
    • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:08 PM EST
      Q1: What is your base/favorite/go to coverage? Why do you feel it is the best coverage? #425chat
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Still trying to see when my dawg @godalwayzfam1st is going to hop in the chat #425Chat
  • FPCoach_Purvis Nov 29 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2: yes as stated earlier, from a 2 press into a match zone(2read) due to Offensive Commies getting better at coaching WRs and being 7v7 gurus. Helps with the Cs vision also. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachCCase Nov 29 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2: I don't know about tweaks to our base calls, this was my first season in this system. We added 2 calls if we were defending trips, giving us 5 to play with. But I wouldn't call that adjustments to our base. #425chat
  • mikestauffer Nov 29 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2: vs trips like 3 cloud or QQH. 3d and long may play soft on the outside. #425chat
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Just saw it #425chat
    • godalwayzfam1st Nov 29 @ 9:15 PM EST
      A1: Base is Cov3. Most of the teams we NEED TO BEAT, are power run teams, we don't need 2 high as our base. #425chat
  • DevinCarlee5 Nov 29 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2: We tweak our coverages by alignment. We try to hide what we do in the secondary. Our alternative answer is a press quarters to give a different look. Make the offense think, they have to decide if we are 2 man or zone. We mix and match press and off to disguise. #425Chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • BadAsianQB Nov 29 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2: I'm a novice coach, but mixing up the defenders that play the deep zone responsibilities in our C3 is a really simple tweak to 'disguise' a coverage and for newer players, help them learn other positions/understand different responsibilities in the defense. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachDiG Nov 29 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2: yes. Made the count all pre snap rather than post snap. Also simplified some of the techniques to limit the stuff to teach. #425Chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachCason1 Nov 29 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2: Press #1 with the Corner Disrupts timing of routes while still staying adaptable. I believe it is easier to press a lesser kid than ask him to play Off-quarters. Other is to bracket a receiver and play man to the others. Split-field and triple calls help with this #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachFitzHSS Nov 29 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2: Not so much makeovers, but there are a series of tweaks built in to the install that are are made on the fly depending on things like playing to the field vs. boundary #425Chat
  • CoachM_Hancock Nov 29 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Mike Hancock Apalachee HS in GA DC/DB's #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:23 PM EST
    I’m gonna have to ask you about that at another time #425chat
    In reply to @CoachDiG
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Welcome coach! #425chat
  • BarryHoover Nov 29 @ 9:24 PM EST
    2 Read -Corner comes off vs #2 to the Flat like everybody else. One rule-breaker is vs Qk Screen to the #1 WR. Instead of making a "China" call and dropping back, he will jump the #1 WR and the Safety will play #2 vertical if he goes. Can't stand getting nickel & dimed #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Be ready! Question 3 coming up quick! #425chat
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:26 PM EST
    #425chat
    • coach_merritt Nov 29 @ 9:25 PM EST
      A1: love split field coverage with the safeties making the call for their side based on tendencies and number of receivers. Rarely call coverage from the sideline.
      In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • BadAsianQB Nov 29 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A2: Again more simple stuff, just changing pre-snap look of CB and overhand defenders and sometimes, even post-snap #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • DevinCarlee5 Nov 29 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Exactly what we do! Love it! #425Chat
    In reply to @BarryHoover, @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Q3: Trips adjustments! What is your go to trips adjustment? What do you want to take away and what’s your answer for the single side run? #425chat
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:27 PM EST
    #425chat
    • RcoachV Nov 29 @ 9:26 PM EST
      A1- Only thing adjusted from our base and how I learned it I tighten down to the boundary and more off to the field. We also have a invert call usually made against 2x1 to the 1 WR side. Usually to give a blitz look or get the $ in the run game quicker.
      In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachFonville Nov 29 @ 9:27 PM EST
    #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • JLBrown64 Nov 29 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Snooping around here on the #425chat to get some insight. Coach Brown, QB’s and LB’s with a potential move to 425 next year so I gotta study.
  • Hayden108John Nov 29 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A2. We switched tech from BP to shuffle with DBs. We tweaked our qtrs coverage into the short side of the field with a " Wildcat" call which put us man on #1 with DB then FS & $ ran 2 read #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Lol I’m real quick with it #425chat
    In reply to @coach_merritt
  • NairnCraig Nov 29 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A2: we’ve tried to modify our alignments where everything looks the same pre-snap. Is it sky or cloud to the backside?🤷🏼‍♂️ #425chat
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:27 PM EST
    #425chat
    • CoachFonville Nov 29 @ 9:27 PM EST
      A1: 2 read some 3 and a 2 man to trips/trips h
      In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • RcoachV Nov 29 @ 9:27 PM EST
    #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Lol love it coach! Welcome! #425chat
    In reply to @JLBrown64
  • BadAsianQB Nov 29 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Coach, what base coverage are you in for you 2-read? As my CBs get better, I like to have them start 2-reading/pattern matching out of Cover 3. #425chat
    In reply to @DevinCarlee5, @BarryHoover, @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • DevinCarlee5 Nov 29 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A3: Solo. Let that poaching Rover take #3 vertical. If they start running weak side. We call trace (same as solo, but star backer mans #3), walk backside Rover down as a down Rover to protect weak side alley #425Chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • BarryHoover Nov 29 @ 9:29 PM EST
    You learn by experience. We played a team with a WR that went to Marshall and they killed us one night on Qk Screen to the #1 WR. Never again... #425Chat
    • DevinCarlee5 Nov 29 @ 9:26 PM EST
      Exactly what we do! Love it! #425Chat
      In reply to @BarryHoover, @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachQuedenfeld Nov 29 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Tweaks are taking out players that can’t simply do their job and read their keys. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:30 PM EST
    “Get em out!” There we go! #425chat
    In reply to @CoachQuedenfeld
  • CoachCCase Nov 29 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A3: We had 5 coverages for trips. Our go-tos were Vert & Solo, but also had Special, Dallas, and Man. Vert & Dallas were pure zone, Solo & Special were hybrid coverage. #425chat
  • FPCoach_Purvis Nov 29 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A3: we have been a tamp2 concept where the MLB will run with the vert of 3 to help allow time for backside FS to get to him and let the C and SS play 1 and 2 WR. OLB rule: inside of 2 and outside of 3 leverage, C press 1 outside in #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachDiG Nov 29 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Cloud the front side slide backers lateral have safety take all of 3s vert to hell on 1 to interest the void #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • RcoachV Nov 29 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A3-invert call to single side. $ in the box(cut pass routes) CB over top. Have a man and banjo concept to 3 WR side. Base is 1/4-1/4 and half. BS safety has a read to tell him when to rob the MOF. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Were you kids able to alter these in game with ease? #425chat
    In reply to @CoachCCase
  • CoachCason1 Nov 29 @ 9:31 PM EST
    #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:32 PM EST
    #425chat
    • CoachCason1 Nov 29 @ 9:31 PM EST
      What Saban calls Stubbie! Not as complex as he runs it obviously.
      In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachFonville Nov 29 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A3: 2 man. Play man on outside guy and 2 on the other 2. Love to man up one of them or play a cover 3 look. I do want to try to keep the bs safety where he can stop run on the other side. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • runyan10c Nov 29 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Man up on inside or outside WR. Read the other 2. Will either bracket or Straight man the single receiver. #425Chat
    • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:27 PM EST
      Q3: Trips adjustments! What is your go to trips adjustment? What do you want to take away and what’s your answer for the single side run? #425chat
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:32 PM EST
    #425chat
    • NairnCraig Nov 29 @ 9:32 PM EST
      TCU terminology I believe. We give our corner rules. Vertical of 1 past 8. If 1 runs a route less than 8 alert flat defender with a China, in, or out call. If safety tells you wheel sink and look for a wheel route out of two, while safety looks for curl/post of 1.
      In reply to @BadAsianQB, @DevinCarlee5, @BarryHoover, @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • godalwayzfam1st Nov 29 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A2: We tweak our C3 alignment v Trips (LOVE IT v Trips), buy not many other tweaks. Interested to hear/see some C3 tweaks others might be doing. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Y’all ain’t missed a beat! Killing it right now. Q4 is coming up in a couple minutes! #425Chat
  • BarryHoover Nov 29 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Yes, it is. Not dumb at all, I need to be more specific. It's a cross between Quarters and Cover 2, depending on what the #2 WR does. #2 Vertical - plays like Quarters. #2 to the Flat - plays like Cover 2. #425Chat
    • BadAsianQB Nov 29 @ 9:29 PM EST
      I'm dumb, is 2-read, cover 2 read?
      In reply to @DevinCarlee5, @BarryHoover, @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • BadAsianQB Nov 29 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A3: depends. best cover corner if they like playing the single to the field to get space. like running to the weak side, best tackling corner with the weakside safety helping with bracket coverage #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Who has some single high tweaks for one of the best DCs in the state of NE? #425chat
    • godalwayzfam1st Nov 29 @ 9:32 PM EST
      A2: We tweak our C3 alignment v Trips (LOVE IT v Trips), buy not many other tweaks. Interested to hear/see some C3 tweaks others might be doing. #425chat
      In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • Coach_NW_ETHS Nov 29 @ 9:33 PM EST
    coverage is a hybrid zone/man and we have the ability to match their best athletes with our best athletes. However it really depends on what they are trying to do too. Stay balanced in a 2 high to protect against weak side run and to be sound vs the speed option away #425Chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • sw_wilcox Nov 29 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Seth Wilcox DeKalb High School in Indiana DC/Safeties #425chat
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:34 PM EST
    #425chat
    • CoachCason1 Nov 29 @ 9:33 PM EST
      Biggest +: Allows the Boundary Safety to run fit quickly! Doesn’t have to cut the #3 crosser.
      In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:34 PM EST
    No worries. We are rusty lol #425chat
    • NairnCraig Nov 29 @ 9:33 PM EST
      My bad on the hashtag. I’ll get better.
      In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • DevinCarlee5 Nov 29 @ 9:34 PM EST
    We love doing this as well. If we get a route in the grey area of our “fast to flats rule” we make China call and the CB sinks, letting him be a true quarters deep player. We also do the same as you guys with the wheel. #425Chat
    In reply to @NairnCraig, @BadAsianQB, @BarryHoover, @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Welcome coach! #425chat
  • CoachFitzHSS Nov 29 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A3: Solo Keeps everything the same for Overhang, Corner, & Safety. Hole LB now walls #3, weak Safety steals the vertical of 3. #425Chat
  • BadAsianQB Nov 29 @ 9:35 PM EST
    Thanks! I've been reading lot of @The_Coach_A to learn Match Quarters. Just waiting to face a team/coach at the level where I need to start coaching it. #425chat
    In reply to @BarryHoover, @The_Coach_A
  • CoachCCase Nov 29 @ 9:35 PM EST
    We would have the base call that we liked for the week, but if it wasn't working, we'd signal the call in from the sidelines. They could run any coverage at any moment. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:36 PM EST
    #425chat
    • coachtwich Nov 29 @ 9:36 PM EST
      "Midpoints" - Safety treats #3 like his #2, robs 2 on a shallow by 3. Corner zones off on the midpoint of 2 and 1 reading in that order for a vertical. Overhang walls 2, Mike walls 3. Backside can be any check we want by game plan - C2/C3 or Press 4. Keeps a +1 vs boundary run.
  • godalwayzfam1st Nov 29 @ 9:36 PM EST
    Help a brotha out!! #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachCCase Nov 29 @ 9:37 PM EST
    #425chat ☝🏼☝🏼
  • Hayden108John Nov 29 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Play qtrs to trips side man away. If trips is to short side of field we play "wildcat" as stated earlier. We take our BS $ and okay him over Bgap for BS run support. He will also run to #3 to cover posts or skinny posts as we see lots of that. Let's FS help vs run. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • sw_wilcox Nov 29 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A1: We ran tried multiple coverages this season and quarters was what our guys were most comfortable in. Depending on the scheme we are facing I like getting into read 2 and cover 3 as well. #425chat
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Q4: In your base coverage, what is the place/spot you are the most worried about on Friday night? Outside of personnel #425chat
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:39 PM EST
    Q4 continued: or what is the weakness in coverage? You had this past year? How do you plan to correct it? #425chat
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:40 PM EST
    #425chat
    • CoachQuedenfeld Nov 29 @ 9:38 PM EST
      No adjustment. Under front. Depending on RB alignment that changes who has B gap away from RB and coverage to single side depends on RB align. Triyo coverage to 3 WR side.
      In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • BarryHoover Nov 29 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A3: Beauty of the 4-2-5 is the flexibility to take away what opponent does best. Vs Trips, if I need to Dbl the single WR, I can run Special. If I want to have a Safety down as my Force player, I can play regular Quarters. We can also run 2 Trap to the Away side. #425Chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachQuedenfeld Nov 29 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Weakness is players not doing their job. Not reading keys. They will tell you that as well. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • DevinCarlee5 Nov 29 @ 9:41 PM EST
    Our problem as well! #425Chat
    In reply to @CoachQuedenfeld, @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • BarryHoover Nov 29 @ 9:42 PM EST
    That's a good place to start. He posts on the 425 Chat too. #425Chat
    In reply to @BadAsianQB, @The_Coach_A
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Send me a question you want to ask in my DMs. I will chose it in 8 minutes to post as the final question of the night! #425Chat
  • CoachQuedenfeld Nov 29 @ 9:42 PM EST
    #425chat
    In reply to @Htx_beast
  • DevinCarlee5 Nov 29 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A4: Our weaknesses come from bad eye discipline, which gets us from reading our keys and taking us out of position to make plans #425Chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • vera_jr Nov 29 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A3, im playing w a trap concept to trips, solo on single side. Bail the FS and DS, $ drops to shallow outs, C hard flat killing bubbles. Mike is a wall player, will plays h/c on weak side and doubmes as a force player. #425chat
  • sw_wilcox Nov 29 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A3: We adjust our front against trips to help the weak side run by stacking the will over the wk E. Mostly this helped weak side option reads that we saw a lot. Coverage adjustments are read 2, read 3, or an adjusted cover 3 locked on the boundary side. #425chat
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:44 PM EST
    #425chat
    • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:44 PM EST
      I have a feeling this is the answer for 99.9% of HS coaches in America!
      In reply to @CoachQuedenfeld, @Htx_beast
  • CoachFitzHSS Nov 29 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A4: Wide dividers Puts flexed out Overhang in a bind. Fix is an alignment check that gets us out of our normal rules and brings him back to the box. #425Chat
  • runyan10c Nov 29 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Wheel and deep middle pass wise. I’d drill wheel and deep middle is just that oops spot that kids will forget every once in a while esp if an OC sees it. #425Chat
  • CoachCCase Nov 29 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A4: Out of 2-Read/Quarters, the vert/out. It's hard to rally up to that 7-10 yard out for the CB if he's dropping with number 1. Out of trips, the RB flare to the single side, our linebacker has to make a run/pass read while not letting the back get outside of him. #425chat
  • CoachCason1 Nov 29 @ 9:46 PM EST
    #425chat man I suck at that.
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:46 PM EST
    #425chat
    • CoachCason1 Nov 29 @ 9:46 PM EST
      Rep the quarters-beaters every day! You should do this no matter what coverage you run. But it’s all about Eyes-Feet-Hands! Eyes are the most important, when they fail or we fail to communicate coverage will struggle
      In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • BarryHoover Nov 29 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Yes, and getting your guys to be able to check to certain coverages, depending on the # of WRs and vs wide or compressed splits. #425Chat
    • CoachCCase Nov 29 @ 9:15 PM EST
      A1 cont: I like having split coverage, so I can run 2 separate calls at once and not lock myself into one call across the board. #425chat
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:47 PM EST
    3 minutes to question 5! #425chat
  • RcoachV Nov 29 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A4- hitch by #2 to the boundary and short crossing routes if LBs are not right. As a DB guy I like to feel comfortable with the deep and outside throws. Bad eyes and slow feet will get you beat every time. #425Chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • BadAsianQB Nov 29 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A4: Good Mesh and 4 Vert teams. If the 4 or 5 man rush isn't getting there against those deeper concepts. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • Coach_NW_ETHS Nov 29 @ 9:48 PM EST
    Out of 2 read...I’m worried about smash because it forces communication with the corners and OLBs. Also 2 vertical with no reroute by the OLB-that can expose our safeties. 2 running a 10 yard out is tough too. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Had some good questions but..... #425chat
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:51 PM EST
    Q5 from @CoachDiG: What do you do for goal line coverage #425chat
  • CoachDiG Nov 29 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A4: multi layered mesh routes that free guys up. Need to see them and communicate better on zoning off #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • godalwayzfam1st Nov 29 @ 9:52 PM EST
    A3: We're C3 and give a "solo" call, bumps ILB to inside of #3 (how far depends on split, since he's pushing to 3 anyway), takes away hot! $ hu on #2... backside WS bumps to edge of box, maintains Bgap or edge responsibility (call dependent), gives us the same box count! #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:52 PM EST
    #425chat
    • BDWilliams18 Nov 29 @ 9:51 PM EST
      Q3: I feel very strongly your base coverage should work against trips. We teach our robber safety to read the release of #3 whether slot, in-line, or in the backfield. That way we don’t have to check out.
      In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • BadAsianQB Nov 29 @ 9:52 PM EST
    they always say those deeper outs are tough throws to make, do you find that to be actually true at the HS level? I assume if it's near hash, maybe not, but what about far hash? #425chat
    In reply to @Coach_NW_ETHS, @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • vera_jr Nov 29 @ 9:52 PM EST
    #425chat blitz every gap, play press zero over top.
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS, @CoachDiG
  • Hayden108John Nov 29 @ 9:52 PM EST
    In qtrs the wheel stop route by wheel receiver. We just repped it and gave the DB a landmark help him determine if it's going vertical or the stop. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • BDWilliams18 Nov 29 @ 9:53 PM EST
    Q3: I feel very strongly your base coverage should work against trips. We teach our robber safety to read the release of #3 whether slot, in-line, or in the backfield. That way we don’t have to check out. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • DevinCarlee5 Nov 29 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A5: We play a tight 2 Read, however it is really switch man. Every one is manned up, but if the receivers cross or try to rub us, we must communicate and take what comes to us #425Chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS, @CoachDiG
  • RoyCash66 Nov 29 @ 9:53 PM EST
    #425Chat A1). I am a cover 4 guy. It allows for a 2 high look at all times and gives you a 9 man box against heavy run teams. But really I like whatever coverage our kids can run well.
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • godalwayzfam1st Nov 29 @ 9:54 PM EST
    Weakside Corner is our best cover guy, we trust him to and he's used to playing by himself... so he's/we're confident. Especially with WS running underneath on pass read. FS never lets vert cross his face, strong corner is over the top of any vert his way #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • sw_wilcox Nov 29 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A5: We are almost exclusively man unless we knew a team was going to run a pick play. Then we worked eyes, communication, and reads to switch man responsibilities. We also would bring pressure to get the ball out quick. #425chat
  • NairnCraig Nov 29 @ 9:55 PM EST
    #425Chat
    In reply to @Coach_NW_ETHS, @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:55 PM EST
    #425chat
    • coach_ben3 Nov 29 @ 9:55 PM EST
      We sky b/s Trips or cone backside with the WS in sky. Widen will to the strong side and play a 2 read or special to it
      In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • RcoachV Nov 29 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A5-press man but defenders need to play levels. We like zero with pressure. We do teach a different style of press on the goal line. Wed Indy is for goal line 1v1 (slants,fades, rub routes). #425Chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS, @CoachDiG
  • CoachCCase Nov 29 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A5: Depends on what kind of GL the offense is giving us. The most simple answer is to say man coverage, but that gets muddied when the offense comes out in the Maryland-I or some funky heavy package. #425chat
  • Coach_NW_ETHS Nov 29 @ 9:56 PM EST
    With where we are at in So Cal and quality of QBs we face, they can make them and hurt us 100%. Also, play action with a roll out, which allows 2 a possible clean release. At that point it the field is just as open as the boundary 10 yard out. #425Chat
    In reply to @BadAsianQB, @CoachKelleyCHHS
  • CoachKelleyCHHS Nov 29 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Man! It’s time for a break now! Y’all killed it tonight so thanks for joining! Spread the word and look out for the poll for next Thursday! #425chat
  • BarryHoover Nov 29 @ 9:57 PM EST
    What different type of Press do you use on the GL? #425Chat
    • RcoachV Nov 29 @ 9:55 PM EST
      A5-press man but defenders need to play levels. We like zero with pressure. We do teach a different style of press on the goal line. Wed Indy is for goal line 1v1 (slants,fades, rub routes). #425Chat
      In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS, @CoachDiG
  • Hayden108John Nov 29 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A5. We play what we call 2 Lock. It's our base front with our weakside 5t moving to a 4i and we bring our Eagle backer off the edge strong side & bring worst man cov. $ off edge weakside. Play 0 man. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS, @CoachDiG
  • CoachCason1 Nov 29 @ 9:58 PM EST
    #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS, @CoachDiG
  • runyan10c Nov 29 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Straight man or press. #425Chat
  • BDWilliams18 Nov 29 @ 9:59 PM EST
    A4. Wide splits that made it tough for corners to take #2 vertical when #1 went under. Switch verticals especially wheel from #3. #425chat
    In reply to @CoachKelleyCHHS