#ASEchat Archive
The Association for Science Education (ASE) promotes excellence in science teaching and learning. Follow #ASEchat Mondays at 3pm ET.
Monday October 2, 2017
3:00 PM EDT
participatechat
Oct 2 @ 3:00 PM EDT
Participate in the upcoming
#ASEchat
by sharing resources and collaborating at
https://t.co/mKOeusFf0N
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:01 PM EDT
#asechat
how do you share ideas online apart from Twitter?
ViciaScience
Oct 2 @ 3:03 PM EDT
Depends on status of what I want to share - collaboration uses a different system than shared notes or planning stuff or writing
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In reply to @teachingofsci
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:03 PM EDT
so,
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- how do you share ideas?
ViciaScience
Oct 2 @ 3:05 PM EDT
I am really interested in how teachers can share effective lesson activities
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In reply to @teachingofsci
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:05 PM EDT
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welcome one and all to the discussion, looking at ways to make sharing online more effective. I'm a teacher-educator with IOP.
Glazgow
Oct 2 @ 3:06 PM EDT
We have an online system in Scotland - Glow - which allows sharing and collaboration across the country
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In reply to @teachingofsci
ViciaScience
Oct 2 @ 3:06 PM EDT
In times past, 'Science Notes' was a vibrant teacher message board in SSR journal, but no longer effective
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In reply to @teachingofsci
twinklresources
Oct 2 @ 3:06 PM EDT
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social media popular for many. Networking at conferences is powerful
In reply to @teachingofsci
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:06 PM EDT
the constant issue - crowdsourcing vs curation. Where to put them all so searchable!
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In reply to @ViciaScience
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:07 PM EDT
is that science specific? What kind of %age of teachers use it, would you say?
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In reply to @Glazgow
Glazgow
Oct 2 @ 3:07 PM EDT
Beyond that I have a TES ac with free resources to share and use Dropbox, Google Drive and One Drive for sharing different things
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In reply to @teachingofsci
ViciaScience
Oct 2 @ 3:07 PM EDT
Also 'immediacy' becomes an issue when online available. I would add QA to your list of online issues
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In reply to @teachingofsci
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:08 PM EDT
how to make sure ideas aren't lost in the noise, and are accessible when you get to X topic?
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In reply to @twinklresources
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:08 PM EDT
definitely - who decides what's worth saving and what isn't up to scratch?
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In reply to @ViciaScience
ViciaScience
Oct 2 @ 3:09 PM EDT
Is Glow the place to go if you need to find a lesson idea on a specific topic?
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In reply to @Glazgow, @teachingofsci
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:09 PM EDT
that's a lot to keep track of - do they each have different purpose or is there duplication?
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In reply to @Glazgow
doc_kristy
Oct 2 @ 3:09 PM EDT
Blog, pieces for
@RSC_EiC
, resources onto Learn Chemistry and through exam boards, chem ed journals, f2f at TeachMeets
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In reply to @teachingofsci, @RSC_EiC
Glazgow
Oct 2 @ 3:10 PM EDT
Storage/searching is a big issue - there are some great resource banks already out there -just need science teachers to add to them
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In reply to @teachingofsci, @ViciaScience
twinklresources
Oct 2 @ 3:10 PM EDT
By having a note book and writing things down
#retro
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:)
In reply to @teachingofsci
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:10 PM EDT
that's a great reach. I'd say nothing in England comes close.
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Glazgow
Oct 2 @ 3:08 PM EDT
No, any educator across Scotland has access but you can set up groups for specific things, eg Primary Science. % is growing prob > 75% now
In reply to @teachingofsci
Glazgow
Oct 2 @ 3:11 PM EDT
Early on there was a lot of duplication but it's improving. There are levels, National - LA - Cluster - School
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In reply to @teachingofsci
ViciaScience
Oct 2 @ 3:11 PM EDT
So should online teacher resource banks have a user awarded star system to rate either the author or resource?
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In reply to @teachingofsci
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:11 PM EDT
where do you go *first* if you're after an idea for a particular topic? what's your default?
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In reply to @doc_kristy
LessonToolbox
Oct 2 @ 3:12 PM EDT
Balanced diet plates from Y8 via
@TJohns85
#ukedchat
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#aussieEd
Glazgow
Oct 2 @ 3:12 PM EDT
Would depend on the gps you use, for science, yes as we've worked hard to make it a one-stop-shop for planning, resources etc
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In reply to @ViciaScience, @teachingofsci
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:12 PM EDT
opinions? better for any user to grade or have a peer review system - and if so who reviews/pays?
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ViciaScience
Oct 2 @ 3:11 PM EDT
So should online teacher resource banks have a user awarded star system to rate either the author or resource?
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In reply to @teachingofsci
ViciaScience
Oct 2 @ 3:12 PM EDT
Is there not a problem of over supply but indifferent quality?
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In reply to @Glazgow, @teachingofsci
mrsjmclark
Oct 2 @ 3:13 PM EDT
Sharing on
@TesResources
mainly & also discussion at INSET days and conferences
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In reply to @teachingofsci, @TesResources
doc_kristy
Oct 2 @ 3:13 PM EDT
Advantage of Learn Chemistry, resources are evaluated before being put up, so much rubbish/ blatant copywrite infringement on TES
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In reply to @teachingofsci, @ViciaScience
Glazgow
Oct 2 @ 3:13 PM EDT
It was a Scottish g'ment initiative. Useless when it started but in last 3/4 years has become an outstanding resouce.
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In reply to @teachingofsci
ViciaScience
Oct 2 @ 3:14 PM EDT
I think IoP is trying hard to build online communities - but something needed for science and for all phases?
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In reply to @teachingofsci
Glazgow
Oct 2 @ 3:14 PM EDT
Yes, but no more than anywhere else online. Some gps are very tightly curated, others pretty open to anyone adding material
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In reply to @ViciaScience, @teachingofsci
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:14 PM EDT
Can any teacher submit resources to LearnChemistry (from
@RoySocChem
)? who does the evaluation?
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In reply to @doc_kristy, @ViciaScience, @RoySocChem
ViciaScience
Oct 2 @ 3:14 PM EDT
Some structure in a massive online resource bank appears important - free for alls do not work well
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In reply to @Glazgow, @teachingofsci
doc_kristy
Oct 2 @ 3:15 PM EDT
My default depends on stage I'm teaching, for A level I will go to journals if I want to innovate
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In reply to @teachingofsci
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:15 PM EDT
we are indeed, but obviously is mainly physics related.
https://t.co/2TzespaHqS
is for all phases though.
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In reply to @ViciaScience
Glazgow
Oct 2 @ 3:16 PM EDT
TES sort of has this where users can rate resources - object to the charging aspect but still some good free stuff on there
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In reply to @ViciaScience, @teachingofsci
doc_kristy
Oct 2 @ 3:16 PM EDT
No, resources are commissioned. You can propose a new resource I think. And people like me do the evaluation
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In reply to @teachingofsci, @ViciaScience, @RoySocChem
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:16 PM EDT
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15 min in and several suggestions. Question: what if anything would have to change for you to submit to journals?
ViciaScience
Oct 2 @ 3:17 PM EDT
The payment aspect of this is against my principles
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In reply to @Glazgow, @teachingofsci
DrBiol
Oct 2 @ 3:17 PM EDT
Share through delivering CPD for teachers and technicians, recently made some YouTube videos, writing for journals when I can
#ASEChat
In reply to @teachingofsci
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:17 PM EDT
#asechat
journals/learned society platforms are by definition reviewed, but that reduces capacity. TES etc has little quality control
doc_kristy
Oct 2 @ 3:18 PM EDT
Also
@CLEAPSS
is a great source of experiments, a shout out to
@UncleBo80053383
for chemistry and
@samirmoezzi
for physics
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ViciaScience
Oct 2 @ 3:18 PM EDT
Just one last point -in science it is essential that shared lesson ideas are tried, tested from HS as well as learning perspective
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In reply to @teachingofsci
doc_kristy
Oct 2 @ 3:19 PM EDT
Also reduces immediacy, a resource may be timely e.g., a Christmas themed experiment
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In reply to @teachingofsci
Glazgow
Oct 2 @ 3:19 PM EDT
Totally - mine too. I enjoy sharing what I have made & used. TBH the best stuff on TES is free as it's been tested before sharing
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In reply to @ViciaScience, @teachingofsci
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:19 PM EDT
v true, and that often needs specialist viewpoint.
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anyone had concerns about a shared resource/plan on those grounds?
ViciaScience
Oct 2 @ 3:18 PM EDT
Just one last point -in science it is essential that shared lesson ideas are tried, tested from HS as well as learning perspective
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In reply to @teachingofsci
Glazgow
Oct 2 @ 3:20 PM EDT
That's true but there is still some useful stuff there. You do have to know what you're looking for though
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In reply to @teachingofsci
sandrine9210
Oct 2 @ 3:20 PM EDT
I am outraged when I see that someone ask to pay for a free resource that they copied from a website. No watchdog on TES?
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In reply to @doc_kristy, @teachingofsci, @ViciaScience
Newmanphysics
Oct 2 @ 3:20 PM EDT
@TakeOnPhysics
I was just adding to a TalkingPhysics thread and nearly missed
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I love sharing ideas
https://t.co/5lbdxBir3l
In reply to @ViciaScience, @teachingofsci, @TakeOnPhysics
ViciaScience
Oct 2 @ 3:20 PM EDT
Peer review is an important principle - but time consuming for author and reviewers. Some find this frustrating in an online era
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In reply to @teachingofsci
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:20 PM EDT
v true; if I blog an idea, it's up in seconds. Submitted article needed 4 redrafts and will be published 6 months later.
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doc_kristy
Oct 2 @ 3:19 PM EDT
Also reduces immediacy, a resource may be timely e.g., a Christmas themed experiment
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In reply to @teachingofsci
doc_kristy
Oct 2 @ 3:21 PM EDT
Yes but it is a long and drawn our process apparently
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In reply to @Glazgow, @sandrine9210, @teachingofsci, @ViciaScience
Glazgow
Oct 2 @ 3:22 PM EDT
Not much use - should be quick and immediate - with sanctions
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In reply to @doc_kristy, @sandrine9210, @teachingofsci, @ViciaScience
cleverfiend
Oct 2 @ 3:22 PM EDT
Might want to consider how to reach widest audience. However most of what I blog would make a paper (and my style is informalπ)
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In reply to @teachingofsci
DrBiol
Oct 2 @ 3:22 PM EDT
The availability of time to sit down and write. Usually takes longer to write journal article than write up activity/practical
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In reply to @teachingofsci
doc_kristy
Oct 2 @ 3:23 PM EDT
I do submit to journals, it is v time consuming and impact isn't high as such a limited audience, worthwhile in other ways
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In reply to @teachingofsci
conniekim_ncsu
Oct 2 @ 3:23 PM EDT
I believe it would be more beneficial for any user to grade to eliminate any sort of bias and keep it as fair as possible
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In reply to @teachingofsci
ViciaScience
Oct 2 @ 3:23 PM EDT
But a peer review article should be researched and referenced - not a quick job for the author either.
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In reply to @teachingofsci
Glazgow
Oct 2 @ 3:24 PM EDT
Certainly in PS very few Ts would read journals. Much more likely to read online articles & blogs
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ViciaScience
Oct 2 @ 3:24 PM EDT
And so it should, as it has a permanence and reach beyond the average blog
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DrBiol
Oct 2 @ 3:22 PM EDT
The availability of time to sit down and write. Usually takes longer to write journal article than write up activity/practical
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In reply to @teachingofsci
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:25 PM EDT
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so if article submissions take too long to write/review/publish, is there a compromise? what do people do?
Newmanphysics
Oct 2 @ 3:25 PM EDT
#asechat
youtube is a great repository. I use to host vids for use on other sites and to show my students things
https://t.co/fxDRDFFFYw
In reply to @DrBiol, @teachingofsci
ViciaScience
Oct 2 @ 3:25 PM EDT
Consider that journals are collected by libraries, so articles may be referenced centuries from now!
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In reply to @doc_kristy, @teachingofsci
doc_kristy
Oct 2 @ 3:26 PM EDT
So let's talk journal options... I am familiar with J.Chem.Ed and
@RSC_CERP
, less familiar with SSR
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A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Oct 2 @ 3:26 PM EDT
What we chatting
#asechat
?
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:26 PM EDT
The thought of putting myself on video fills me with terror, that's why I blog instead. I type better than I talk!
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In reply to @Newmanphysics, @DrBiol
Newmanphysics
Oct 2 @ 3:27 PM EDT
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CLEAPSS is an excellent resource I have used in every year of teaching. I always say so much more than a health and safety service.
In reply to @doc_kristy, @CLEAPSS, @UncleBo80053383, @samirmoezzi
sandrine9210
Oct 2 @ 3:27 PM EDT
I just wonder who would do that. It's cheating and not in the spirit of the profession, as far as I am concerned
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In reply to @Glazgow, @doc_kristy, @teachingofsci, @ViciaScience
ViciaScience
Oct 2 @ 3:27 PM EDT
Does every teacher access resources via online channels? If not is there still a place for publications?
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In reply to @Glazgow
DrBiol
Oct 2 @ 3:27 PM EDT
Agree entirely. However it's the reason why I only do 2 journal articles a year but publish more prolifically through other routes
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In reply to @ViciaScience
conniekim_ncsu
Oct 2 @ 3:27 PM EDT
I personally have always enjoyed journaling and wish that it was used more in classrooms, specifically elementary and middle school
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In reply to @teachingofsci
doc_kristy
Oct 2 @ 3:28 PM EDT
My JCE paper has been digested into other forms for a wider audience, e.g. for
@ocr_science
@ScienceonStage
& schools exhibition
#ASEChat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @teachingofsci, @ocr_science, @ScienceonStage
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:28 PM EDT
problem is that if (average time to check quality)>(average time to make yourself) people stop looking on that platform.
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In reply to @sandrine9210, @Glazgow, @doc_kristy, @ViciaScience
doc_kristy
Oct 2 @ 3:29 PM EDT
Sharing resources
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In reply to @A_Weatherall
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:30 PM EDT
#asechat
should all teachers sharing ideas/resources *consider* publication? Could promising blogs be turned into articles?
Glazgow
Oct 2 @ 3:30 PM EDT
Yes, online resources would be go to for all. Primary Science is the only journal that gets passed around & only if I'm there
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In reply to @ViciaScience
Newmanphysics
Oct 2 @ 3:30 PM EDT
#asechat
You don't have to film your face just equipment. Student love that film them for them in my shed.
https://t.co/PYM6bDUuFq
In reply to @teachingofsci, @DrBiol
Glazgow
Oct 2 @ 3:31 PM EDT
That's very true - needs an 'expert' to filter resources for Ts to use
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In reply to @teachingofsci, @sandrine9210, @doc_kristy, @ViciaScience
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:31 PM EDT
@viciascience
what %age of science teachers in UK get eg SSR? What's the reach?
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teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:32 PM EDT
and experts need to be paid/compensated. Not to mention politics/personalities getting involved...
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In reply to @Glazgow, @sandrine9210, @doc_kristy, @ViciaScience
conniekim_ncsu
Oct 2 @ 3:32 PM EDT
that's very true, people are always more likely to do something when there is an incentive
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In reply to @teachingofsci
Glazgow
Oct 2 @ 3:32 PM EDT
People who just want to make money. It's the worts thing TES could have done - best resources are the free ones
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In reply to @sandrine9210, @doc_kristy, @teachingofsci, @ViciaScience
doc_kristy
Oct 2 @ 3:32 PM EDT
@RSC_EiC
is sent out free to all schools & all teacher members of
@RoySocChem
it's an entry to Chem ed for many in its paper form
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In reply to @ViciaScience, @Glazgow, @RSC_EiC, @RoySocChem
ViciaScience
Oct 2 @ 3:32 PM EDT
Interesting. Should there be an equivalent Secondary science journal (not too lengthy / serious )?
#ASEChat
In reply to @Glazgow
DrBiol
Oct 2 @ 3:33 PM EDT
Oooh a book! That's on my list of ambitions. Haven't tried it yet - it's taking a long while to get over my thesis!
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In reply to @ViciaScience
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:33 PM EDT
#asechat
30min in, halfway through. Question: does anyone use
@STEMlearning
'collections' approach to organise/share links and resources?
Glazgow
Oct 2 @ 3:34 PM EDT
Yep - I tend to do it for science in my cluster - highlight good resources and share with staff, takes time though
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In reply to @teachingofsci, @sandrine9210, @doc_kristy, @ViciaScience
sandrine9210
Oct 2 @ 3:34 PM EDT
Unfortunately I don't think enough teachers know how to use
@cleapss
efficiently. They just think cleapss="hazcards".
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In reply to @Newmanphysics, @doc_kristy, @CLEAPSS, @UncleBo80053383, @samirmoezzi, @CLEAPSS
cleverfiend
Oct 2 @ 3:34 PM EDT
And what % of science teachers would want to get ideas from a journal? I'm well behind with my ed reading, blogs easier to digest
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In reply to @teachingofsci, @ViciaScience
Newmanphysics
Oct 2 @ 3:35 PM EDT
#asechat
I have always espoused teachers should have access to real scientific research journals. After all we teach the future researchers.
In reply to @conniekim_ncsu, @teachingofsci
DrBiol
Oct 2 @ 3:35 PM EDT
You don't always have to be in the video, apart from maybe just your hands! Depends on what you're doing.
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In reply to @teachingofsci, @Newmanphysics
ViciaScience
Oct 2 @ 3:35 PM EDT
Not always true as the editorial team of the various
@theASE
journals are mainly volunteers.
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teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:32 PM EDT
and experts need to be paid/compensated. Not to mention politics/personalities getting involved...
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In reply to @Glazgow, @sandrine9210, @doc_kristy, @ViciaScience
Glazgow
Oct 2 @ 3:35 PM EDT
You'd need to ask Secondary teachers but the content in PS is so accessible for Ts with limited time
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In reply to @ViciaScience
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:35 PM EDT
but how many of UK teachers are members? Even if they all loan it to one colleague, still minority in UK. frustrating.
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In reply to @ViciaScience
CLEAPSS
Oct 2 @ 3:35 PM EDT
Hazcards are a small (but significant) part of what we do.
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sandrine9210
Oct 2 @ 3:34 PM EDT
Unfortunately I don't think enough teachers know how to use
@cleapss
efficiently. They just think cleapss="hazcards".
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In reply to @Newmanphysics, @doc_kristy, @CLEAPSS, @UncleBo80053383, @samirmoezzi, @CLEAPSS
doc_kristy
Oct 2 @ 3:35 PM EDT
So much more than hazcards! I have highlighted to
#RSCScholars
that they should get the
@CLEAPSS
login from their schools
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sandrine9210
Oct 2 @ 3:34 PM EDT
Unfortunately I don't think enough teachers know how to use
@cleapss
efficiently. They just think cleapss="hazcards".
#asechat
In reply to @Newmanphysics, @doc_kristy, @CLEAPSS, @UncleBo80053383, @samirmoezzi, @CLEAPSS
whitebug16
Oct 2 @ 3:36 PM EDT
I get PS as much more suitable for my SEND students than complex a-level notes
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In reply to @Glazgow, @ViciaScience
doc_kristy
Oct 2 @ 3:37 PM EDT
That's one of my frustrations with SSR, my university library doesn't even subscribe to it, one colleague is a member though
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In reply to @ViciaScience, @teachingofsci
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:37 PM EDT
highlighting those posts/writers would be a great way to develop them into journal contributors... great way to evidence
#CSciTeach
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In reply to @ViciaScience, @theASE
Newmanphysics
Oct 2 @ 3:37 PM EDT
#asechat
I always laugh with our amazing technicians that their hands are famous
https://t.co/zf6lB0bv2e
In reply to @DrBiol, @teachingofsci
doc_kristy
Oct 2 @ 3:38 PM EDT
Also true of learned society journals like
@RSC_CERP
as well as
@RSC_EiC
, EB members are volunteers
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In reply to @teachingofsci, @ViciaScience, @theASE, @RSC_CERP, @RSC_EiC
CLEAPSS
Oct 2 @ 3:39 PM EDT
Many of our techs/advisers are the same, our new chemistry adviser
@Magdamazons
gets a cameo in our new video launching this week..
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In reply to @Newmanphysics, @DrBiol, @teachingofsci, @Magdamazons
Glazgow
Oct 2 @ 3:40 PM EDT
It could be a very worthwhile journal - looking at secondary science but also covering transitions & upper PS relevant material
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In reply to @ViciaScience
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:40 PM EDT
#asechat
I'm just going to spam you all with all the submission guidelines I could find - save what's relevant for you!
doc_kristy
Oct 2 @ 3:40 PM EDT
Also peer review in journals is voluntary, I've reviewed for ACS & RSC ed journals, it's part of the unwritten rules of publication
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In reply to @teachingofsci, @ViciaScience, @theASE
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:41 PM EDT
#asechat
Primary Science from
@theASE
https://t.co/1FnB2BzO22
needs articles 1500-2000 words, news etc much shorter
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Oct 2 @ 3:41 PM EDT
#asechat
- I saw the dig at paid resources.
In reply to @doc_kristy
MattEndeanRally
Oct 2 @ 3:41 PM EDT
What are the guidelines for writing for SSR? Can anyone do this? How long a piece?
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teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:41 PM EDT
#asechat
Magazine style EiS
https://t.co/yR9DB7Kpv8
articles 700-1500 words, notes up to 300 (great way to start?)
doc_kristy
Oct 2 @ 3:42 PM EDT
I think we have moved in from that now.., current debate about journals and how widely read, online vs paper publications
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In reply to @A_Weatherall
MarcNeesam
Oct 2 @ 3:42 PM EDT
There is conceptual progression within science even if the curriculum doesn't give it. Lots of lit on the subject
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#PrimaryRocks
In reply to @MistersPodcast, @Teacherglitter, @PrimaryRocks1
Glazgow
Oct 2 @ 3:43 PM EDT
I produce a Topical Science Update every month which is shared with 1000's of schools. Interactive, easy to read
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teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:43 PM EDT
#asechat
@theASE
's SSR guidelines:
https://t.co/g78RTxDZUh
notes up to 2000 words, articles up to 4000.
Glazgow
Oct 2 @ 3:43 PM EDT
Could this be a way of getting relevant info, signposting good blogs/links/resources in different areas of science?
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Newmanphysics
Oct 2 @ 3:44 PM EDT
#asechat
I am a great user of the first abstract and first paragraph or so of advanced articles.
In reply to @ViciaScience, @conniekim_ncsu, @teachingofsci
sandrine9210
Oct 2 @ 3:44 PM EDT
Using
@cleapss
should be part of all schools DT and Science induction to staff each year if they belong to
@cleapss
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In reply to @CLEAPSS, @CLEAPSS, @CLEAPSS
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:44 PM EDT
Subject specific journal links coming up next; please share more links if you have them.
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w200zmn
Oct 2 @ 3:44 PM EDT
#asechat
hi great ideas
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:44 PM EDT
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Physics Education:
https://t.co/nVVyTf7MEf
Frontlines up to 1000 words, articles up to 3000.
@educatephysics
MattEndeanRally
Oct 2 @ 3:45 PM EDT
Sounds like all of my uni / masters research there ;)
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In reply to @Newmanphysics, @ViciaScience, @conniekim_ncsu, @teachingofsci
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Oct 2 @ 3:45 PM EDT
I think journal cliffe notes would be a grand thing
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In reply to @doc_kristy
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:46 PM EDT
signpost them where? Needs steady stream, ideally w/ searchable archive. Auto-tweet 1/day from crowd-sourced spreadsheet?
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In reply to @Glazgow
doc_kristy
Oct 2 @ 3:46 PM EDT
I don't teach maths but I like
@CambridgeMaths
espressos for research digests
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something similar for science would be good
In reply to @A_Weatherall, @CambridgeMaths
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Oct 2 @ 3:46 PM EDT
We loved running
@SciTeachJC
but it was so hard to get papers. Much easier now. But even then not everything available.
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In reply to @doc_kristy, @SciTeachJC
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:47 PM EDT
#asechat
from
@rsc_eic
:
https://t.co/iHCdWI7jCf
has a few hints, invites speculative pitches. Ask
@insidecircles
for info.
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Oct 2 @ 3:47 PM EDT
Eg. IOP education journal not available through CCT library.
#asechat
In reply to @doc_kristy
MarcNeesam
Oct 2 @ 3:47 PM EDT
πThis question and some replies (not
@Glazgow
reply!)
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https://t.co/OooqaI3I0l
Mroberts90Matt
Oct 2 @ 3:42 PM EDT
#PrimaryRocks
Here's a tangent qu (sorry
@FarrowMr
) - Science - core subject or foundation? Textbook answers and realistic answers welcome
Newmanphysics
Oct 2 @ 3:47 PM EDT
#asechat
you get PEd and classroom physics from
@TakeOnPhysics
School Affiliation Scheme well worth the Β£50
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teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:47 PM EDT
#asechat
Journal of Biological Education:
https://t.co/06MPcnkG7K
Guidelines
https://t.co/GLFfEbiECM
doc_kristy
Oct 2 @ 3:48 PM EDT
Neither is J.Chem.Ed apart from some ancient papers, subject specificity of journals hasn't been thought about in this CCT access
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In reply to @A_Weatherall
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Oct 2 @ 3:48 PM EDT
Yeah, digest format good.
#asechat
did you see the recent blog from
@AceThatTest
summarising research.
In reply to @doc_kristy, @CambridgeMaths, @AceThatTest
doc_kristy
Oct 2 @ 3:49 PM EDT
And chemistry and physics have established and vibrant cross phase (well secondary/FE-HE) communities which should be accessible
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In reply to @A_Weatherall
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:49 PM EDT
#asechat
10 min or so left; what one change could *you* make so what you share isn't lost?
doc_kristy
Oct 2 @ 3:49 PM EDT
No, I've not been following that too closely lately as I have been bogged down with my own research and upskilling my stats π
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In reply to @A_Weatherall, @CambridgeMaths, @AceThatTest
Glazgow
Oct 2 @ 3:50 PM EDT
It is hard - ideally you want to get direct to teacher's email inbox to get max effect. Needs someone to research, read and collate
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In reply to @teachingofsci
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Oct 2 @ 3:51 PM EDT
Not this one but their blog is brilliant for research summaries etc
https://t.co/TOyhCDijy1
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In reply to @doc_kristy, @CambridgeMaths, @AceThatTest
ViciaScience
Oct 2 @ 3:51 PM EDT
Producing fewer resources but spending more time collating and reviewing would be a better use of time
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In reply to @teachingofsci
Newmanphysics
Oct 2 @ 3:51 PM EDT
#asechat
you get access to all the previous issues electronically of Physics Education I have found this invaluable
@EducatePhysics
In reply to @teachingofsci, @EducatePhysics, @TakeOnPhysics, @EducatePhysics
Glazgow
Oct 2 @ 3:52 PM EDT
Agreed - there's some great stuff out there but often finding it is the challenge
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In reply to @ViciaScience, @teachingofsci
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:52 PM EDT
How about a submission form so anyone can nominate, then
@theASE
emails out 2-3 'recommended posts' every week?
#asechat
In reply to @Glazgow, @theASE
ViciaScience
Oct 2 @ 3:52 PM EDT
Second change I would like is for teachers to evaluate what they do in classroom and share this rather than sharing their resources
#ASEChat
In reply to @teachingofsci
Newmanphysics
Oct 2 @ 3:53 PM EDT
#asechat
I always walk up to the chemistry office to read
@RSC_EiC
a wealth of information for all science teachers
In reply to @doc_kristy, @teachingofsci, @RSC_EiC, @RSC_EiC
ViciaScience
Oct 2 @ 3:54 PM EDT
Third change - teachers to write confidently about their own action research and not think they can only be consumers of research
#ASEChat
In reply to @teachingofsci
doc_kristy
Oct 2 @ 3:54 PM EDT
Excellent point Richard
#ASEchat
ViciaScience
Oct 2 @ 3:52 PM EDT
Second change I would like is for teachers to evaluate what they do in classroom and share this rather than sharing their resources
#ASEChat
In reply to @teachingofsci
jesswade
Oct 2 @ 3:55 PM EDT
#ASEChat
goals ππ½ a trained astronaut and Professor of Physics wants to speak in your classroom ππ
#thisgirlcan
SuzieImberSpace
Oct 2 @ 3:51 PM EDT
I'd love to help inspire the next generation of scientists. Any schools/clubs who'd like to talk space, please get in touch!
#Astronauts
Glazgow
Oct 2 @ 3:55 PM EDT
That would be good - needs to be really simple & quick or people won't but the idea is excellent
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In reply to @teachingofsci, @theASE
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:55 PM EDT
opportunity cost: how much can teachers gain from reading work of others in time needed to write up theirs? hard balance.
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In reply to @ViciaScience
doc_kristy
Oct 2 @ 3:56 PM EDT
#ASEchat
@RSC_CERP
for chemistry education articles, mainly focused on pedagogy
#ASEchat
@RSC_EiC
for digests and summaries
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:56 PM EDT
which is why I'd love to see editorial boards headhunting - read posts, then email author to ask "have you thought about..."
#asechat
In reply to @adamboxer1
doc_kristy
Oct 2 @ 3:57 PM EDT
I think that writing your own, designing your own helps you understand what others have written
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In reply to @teachingofsci, @ViciaScience
ViciaScience
Oct 2 @ 3:57 PM EDT
We need to increase opportunities for reflection and embed good practice - not always to be searching for 'new' ways
#ASEChat
In reply to @teachingofsci
conniekim_ncsu
Oct 2 @ 3:58 PM EDT
keeping your own personal record of everything you share with others so that you always have it as back up
#asechat
In reply to @teachingofsci
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Oct 2 @ 3:58 PM EDT
This is the inevitable meant
#asechat
journal digests like this very useful
https://t.co/6QoIvScBmg
In reply to @doc_kristy, @CambridgeMaths, @AceThatTest
A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Aug 18 @ 5:23 PM EDT
You know what. This is an excellent example of summarising a research paper for general consumption from
@pimpmymemory
teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:58 PM EDT
i agree. but busy teachers may not have the time for that. needs to be supported, in and outside school setting.
#asechat
In reply to @doc_kristy, @ViciaScience
twinklresources
Oct 2 @ 3:59 PM EDT
Loved the conversation this evening on
#asechat
and
#primaryrocks
Join
@Sue_Cowley
& me tomorrow for
#TwinklTeach
- managing time ^Kat
ViciaScience
Oct 2 @ 3:59 PM EDT
Thanks for brilliant
#ASEChat
tonight
@teachingofsci
. I am going to dash off and record the conversation
Newmanphysics
Oct 2 @ 3:59 PM EDT
#asechat
Registering with
@TakeOnPhysics
https://t.co/VoDgGaAriS
gains access to back issues of classroom physics
https://t.co/3haP2ZOlwK
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teachingofsci
Oct 2 @ 3:59 PM EDT
#asechat
it's that time... don't think anything resolved, but hope people will try sharing in ways so less wheels to be reinvented.
doc_kristy
Oct 2 @ 4:00 PM EDT
Right, thanks for the discussions
#ASEchat
tweeps, time for a cuppa and a quick edit of tomorrow's J.Chem.Ed inspired practical!