#ECSchat Archive

Join me every week for #ECSchat, the education case study chat. Over the course of an hour, I will post 6 case study situations that are applicable and relevant across grade levels and subject areas. Participants identify one potential issue and propose a solution. Because the chat is an hour long, there is ample time to respond to other members of your PLN, making the chat interactive and engaging - especially because no two responses are ever the same!

Sunday August 12, 2018
7:00 PM EDT

  • kerisavoca - Moderator Aug 12 @ 7:00 PM EDT
    #ECSchat Good evening! Please introduce yourself.
  • kerisavoca - Moderator Aug 12 @ 7:02 PM EDT
    #ECSchat Here are our group norms.
  • mexusmx Aug 12 @ 7:02 PM EDT
    John Miller, dialing in from Mexico City where I run an international American school. First time joining taking part in #ECSchat
  • kerisavoca - Moderator Aug 12 @ 7:03 PM EDT
    Keri from NYC. good evening #ECSchat
  • kerisavoca - Moderator Aug 12 @ 7:04 PM EDT
    #ECSchat Q1 is coming in one minute!
  • kerisavoca - Moderator Aug 12 @ 7:04 PM EDT
    Welcome! #ecschat
    In reply to @mexusmx
  • kerisavoca - Moderator Aug 12 @ 7:05 PM EDT
    Starting off strong with Q1 #ECSchat
  • 3_DLeadership Aug 12 @ 7:07 PM EDT
    a1: share how much you value the opportunity to co-teach and would love to find some time to connect and discuss how we can work together #ECSchat
    In reply to @kerisavoca
  • 3_DLeadership Aug 12 @ 7:08 PM EDT
    a1.2: issues: they don't value the co-teaching experience, they'd rather be on their own but were forced into this #ECSchat
    In reply to @kerisavoca
  • mexusmx Aug 12 @ 7:08 PM EDT
    A1: tell him you understand the importance of bonding with other new Ts but also share your hope to work closely together to benefit your Ss. #ecschat
  • RalphCSTEM Aug 12 @ 7:08 PM EDT
    A1: I'm not fond of beating around the bush... I'd say almost exactly that. "Since we're co-teaching, I think it's important we meet before students arrive. I'm concerned there will be no other time to meet. What are your thoughts?" We should solve the problem together. #ECSchat
  • kerisavoca - Moderator Aug 12 @ 7:09 PM EDT
    And perhaps they aren't comfortable mingling with new people. Working in a new school can be intimidating #ecschat
    In reply to @3_DLeadership
  • 3_DLeadership Aug 12 @ 7:09 PM EDT
    Another thought; maybe they see co-teaching as not being trusted in the classroom? #ecschat
  • 3_DLeadership Aug 12 @ 7:09 PM EDT
    definitely a possibility! #ECSchat
    In reply to @kerisavoca
  • kerisavoca - Moderator Aug 12 @ 7:10 PM EDT
    New teachers often sit together until someone approaches them! #ECSchat
    In reply to @mexusmx
  • kerisavoca - Moderator Aug 12 @ 7:12 PM EDT
    True! #ECSchat
    In reply to @RalphCSTEM, @mexusmx
  • kerisavoca - Moderator Aug 12 @ 7:14 PM EDT
    #ECSchat Q2 in one minute!
  • kerisavoca - Moderator Aug 12 @ 7:15 PM EDT
    #ECSchat Q2 - let's assume the post office is not the cause of this particular issue :)
  • ginoloko Aug 12 @ 7:20 PM EDT
    A2 Emails are not always read. Phone call to verify if it was received might help. #ECSChat Hello, everyone!
    In reply to @kerisavoca
  • jillian_damon Aug 12 @ 7:21 PM EDT
    A2: #ECSchat I saw an admin (please forgive me for not remembering who) who sent an email home & then asked the families to respond with 3 adj about the Ss so they know they received it. Also important to figure out what method of comm is going to reach the school community.
  • ginoloko Aug 12 @ 7:22 PM EDT
    Right. Leaving contact numbers are also helpful. #ECSChat
    In reply to @jillian_damon
  • kerisavoca - Moderator Aug 12 @ 7:24 PM EDT
    #ECSchat Q3 in one minute!
  • RalphCSTEM Aug 12 @ 7:24 PM EDT
    A2: This doesn't actually strike me as that weird. If I had a concern or issue I wanted to discuss I'd reach out to those families directly... but otherwise, I'd probably take this as a normal reaction to a mailing. Am I weird? #ECSchat
  • kerisavoca - Moderator Aug 12 @ 7:25 PM EDT
  • 3_DLeadership Aug 12 @ 7:26 PM EDT
    A3: if it were me; I’d be checking with colleagues to see if their experiences were similar. #ecschat #honest
    In reply to @kerisavoca
  • RalphCSTEM Aug 12 @ 7:28 PM EDT
    A3: I'd assume this initiative is not coming from the admin alone. I'd seek the other (primary?) drivers of this imitative to get a straight answer. If review numbers are a concern (I've mentioned before, aren't a big thing here), I'd visit with a high scorer to compare. #ECSchat
  • jillian_damon Aug 12 @ 7:28 PM EDT
    A3: #ECSchat Set a meeting to debrief the observation. I’m the meeting clarify you felt you lacked a concrete plan/next steps when you left the goal session. Ask for their support & ideas. Work together to move forward, be coachable.
  • mexusmx Aug 12 @ 7:30 PM EDT
    A3: there seems to be a lack of clarity around the coaching paradigm and the rubric for assessing performance. You could ask the Principal directly or other colleagues to see if they have more clarity #ecschat
  • kerisavoca - Moderator Aug 12 @ 7:34 PM EDT
    We're not done yet! Q4 is coming in one minute. #ECSchat
  • kerisavoca - Moderator Aug 12 @ 7:35 PM EDT
    Q4 is up! #ECSchat
  • 3_DLeadership Aug 12 @ 7:36 PM EDT
    A4: gather students and ask them “what would make this class the best you ever took? What can I do differently that you’d appreciate?” #ecschat
    In reply to @kerisavoca
  • 3_DLeadership Aug 12 @ 7:37 PM EDT
    A4.2: identify students who are influencers and leaders. Provide opportunities to shine and lead. #ecschat
    In reply to @kerisavoca
  • RalphCSTEM Aug 12 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    A4: This a tough. When this has happened to me, I've had to look closer at why my students' goals are misaligned with mine. More active learning, more engaging angles to the content, and re-examining the parameters of particular discipline policies have helped #ECSchat
  • mexusmx Aug 12 @ 7:38 PM EDT
    A4: spend some time identifying leaders in the class that may be derailing your program. Ask for feedback from all Ss to see how to engage more! #ecschat
  • jillian_damon Aug 12 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    A4:Ask yourself what is unmet need are behaviors communicating? Talk to the Ss & develop a plan (read Dr. Greene #lostatshool for details) Try brain breaks, flexible seating. Get back to relationship building - strong relationships often help Ss be mindful of behavior. #ecschat
  • RalphCSTEM Aug 12 @ 7:42 PM EDT
    Yeah, that's a plan I'd follow. You expect any push-back from admin against discussing third party eval results? #ECSchat
    In reply to @jillian_damon
  • jamesvarlack Aug 12 @ 7:43 PM EDT
    James lurking in and out...sorry I missed the full chat... #ECSchat
  • kerisavoca - Moderator Aug 12 @ 7:44 PM EDT
    Q5 in one minute #ECSchat
  • kerisavoca - Moderator Aug 12 @ 7:45 PM EDT
  • jamesvarlack Aug 12 @ 7:45 PM EDT
    A4 Have a peer come in and evaluate and get there feedback...have another peer, admins...get some feedback... #ECSchat
  • jamesvarlack Aug 12 @ 7:46 PM EDT
    A4.1 Sometimes we are just trying to solve things from one perspective...first and foremost a school is a team...we have to help each other out #ECSchat
  • RalphCSTEM Aug 12 @ 7:48 PM EDT
    A5: Don't send that email. Schedule a meeting for your questions. Get an hour and be prepared to wait a week or two for an opening. That will give you the time/space to talk with a level head. Trying to just 'catch' her might not fit her schedule. #ECSchat
  • mexusmx Aug 12 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    A5: set up an appointment with the Principal rather than putting your concerns in writing. It may be seen as confrontational. Ask for help prioritizing the different initiatives. #ECSchat
  • kerisavoca - Moderator Aug 12 @ 7:49 PM EDT
    Agree! #ecschat
    • RalphCSTEM Aug 12 @ 7:48 PM EDT
      A5: Don't send that email. Schedule a meeting for your questions. Get an hour and be prepared to wait a week or two for an opening. That will give you the time/space to talk with a level head. Trying to just 'catch' her might not fit her schedule. #ECSchat
  • kerisavoca - Moderator Aug 12 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    Thanks for sharing this resource! #ecschat
    • jillian_damon Aug 12 @ 7:42 PM EDT
      A4:Ask yourself what is unmet need are behaviors communicating? Talk to the Ss & develop a plan (read Dr. Greene #lostatshool for details) Try brain breaks, flexible seating. Get back to relationship building - strong relationships often help Ss be mindful of behavior. #ecschat
  • kruu_justin Aug 12 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    A1: cliques are real especially at international schools. My admin purposefully seats people at different tables during PD and staff days so we can mingle and chat with other staff members. #ecschat
  • kerisavoca - Moderator Aug 12 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    Sometimes all we can do is ask, take the feedback, and try our best to make a positive change. #ECSchat
    In reply to @RalphCSTEM, @3_DLeadership
  • jillian_damon Aug 12 @ 7:50 PM EDT
    A5:Talk to non-formal T leaders on campus. They know the school culture & can help fill you. They may have some great advice & talking it through may answer some questions. After that convo, if there are still ?, condense into 2-3 questions & email. #ECSchat
  • kerisavoca - Moderator Aug 12 @ 7:51 PM EDT
    Good point - and sometimes it is indeed those who derail the class who have the potential to be the greatest leaders #ECSchat
    In reply to @mexusmx
  • kerisavoca - Moderator Aug 12 @ 7:52 PM EDT
    We are told to get up and change tables several times per PD. It works #ECSchat
    • kruu_justin Aug 12 @ 7:50 PM EDT
      A1: cliques are real especially at international schools. My admin purposefully seats people at different tables during PD and staff days so we can mingle and chat with other staff members. #ecschat
  • kerisavoca - Moderator Aug 12 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    And perhaps the principal was just extremely busy and didn't have time to stop and answer any non-urgent questions #ECSchat
    • mexusmx Aug 12 @ 7:49 PM EDT
      A5: set up an appointment with the Principal rather than putting your concerns in writing. It may be seen as confrontational. Ask for help prioritizing the different initiatives. #ECSchat
  • kruu_justin Aug 12 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    A2 I try to make my first point of contact with parents via phone call. Also, I would talk to other teachers to see if they have a similar issue and how they've tackled it. #ECSchat
  • RalphCSTEM Aug 12 @ 7:53 PM EDT
    I do this in the PDs I run as well. Mixed groups are good for students... they're good for teachers. #ECSchat
    In reply to @kerisavoca
  • kerisavoca - Moderator Aug 12 @ 7:54 PM EDT
    The last and final question is up in one minute! #ECSchat
  • ginoloko Aug 12 @ 7:54 PM EDT
    A5 Not knowing what to say is a good enough reason not to write. Face to face conversation is always better if you need to confront an issue. #ECSChat
    In reply to @kerisavoca
  • kerisavoca - Moderator Aug 12 @ 7:55 PM EDT
  • kruu_justin Aug 12 @ 7:55 PM EDT
    A3 take it as an opportunity to learn and grow. It's not realistic to expect fabulous marks on your first observation after creating a new goal. Use the precious feedback! #ECSchat
  • ginoloko Aug 12 @ 7:55 PM EDT
    #ECSchat Good questions and situations. It makes the learning authentic.
  • ginoloko Aug 12 @ 7:56 PM EDT
    Precisely. #ECSChat Write down your points for discussion and not the complaints.
    In reply to @RalphCSTEM
  • kerisavoca - Moderator Aug 12 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    Good night #ECSchat!
  • kruu_justin Aug 12 @ 7:57 PM EDT
    A4 I wouldn't have called home to begin with. Take time to reflect on classroom mngmnt practices, check in with other teachers, and try new strategies. If a call home is needed, ask parents what motivates and interests their kiddos instead. #ECSchat
  • RalphCSTEM Aug 12 @ 7:58 PM EDT
    A6: I read this as an issue with the co-teacher. Different stakeholders will reach out to different touch points, and it is OUR responsibility to include our colleagues in these interactions. I'd ask them to include me in each meeting about OUR students and OUR class. #ECSchat
  • RalphCSTEM Aug 12 @ 7:58 PM EDT
    Agreed. Focusing on deliverables, and working with the fact that you're on the same team in mind. #ECSchat
    In reply to @ginoloko
  • kruu_justin Aug 12 @ 7:59 PM EDT
    A5 Principals are busy. Set a meeting with them so you can meet formally. Or, check in with colleagues to see how they're managing with the initiatives as well. #ECSchat