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AggieSalterITS Apr 19 @ 9:00 PM EDT

#sblchat Aggie from wi glad to join my sbl friends :-)

mac4cy Apr 19 @ 9:00 PM EDT

glad to have you!! #sblchat

In reply to @AggieSalterITS

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:00 PM EDT

Aggie, of course we're happy to see You! #sblchat

In reply to @AggieSalterITS

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:00 PM EDT

Hi Aggie! #sblchat

In reply to @AggieSalterITS

kenoc7 Apr 19 @ 9:00 PM EDT

Ken O’Connor, author/consultant in Lincolnshire, IL. Got my first TN (work) visa of 2017 this morning at Toronto Airport!!! #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:01 PM EDT

I'm Garnet, an instructional coach and consultant from IL. Pleased to join @RoweRikW and moderate this evening's discussion! #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:01 PM EDT

Pleased to see you both! #sblchat

In reply to @mac4cy, @AggieSalterITS

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:01 PM EDT

Hi Ken! Sorry we had to miss each other today. #sblchat

In reply to @kenoc7

CITBrian Apr 19 @ 9:01 PM EDT

Brian, Instructuonal Tech Coord. St. Louis, MO. Let's go Blues! #sblchat

mrsprebble84 Apr 19 @ 9:01 PM EDT

Becky Prebble ELA from Chicago Suburbs #sblchat

JohnSchlender Apr 19 @ 9:01 PM EDT

John MS Principal from Mayville, WI https://t.co/xKohwrx4V7 #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:01 PM EDT

Welcome Brian! #sblchat

In reply to @CITBrian

kenoc7 Apr 19 @ 9:01 PM EDT

Me too!! #sblchat

In reply to @garnet_hillman

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:01 PM EDT

Hi Becky! #sblchat

In reply to @mrsprebble84

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:01 PM EDT

Good evening John! #sblchat

In reply to @JohnSchlender

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:01 PM EDT

Hi Brian! Welcome! #sblchat

In reply to @CITBrian

KatieBudrow Apr 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Hello #sblchat! Katie, 6th grade science teacher, tweeting from the Chicagoland area tonight. So happy to be here!

RESP3CTtheGAME Apr 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Brian, HS comm arts in WI. Looking forward to the next hour of #sblchat

Scott_Schaefer Apr 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Scott in Nebraska. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Hello friend! #sblchat

In reply to @KatieBudrow

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Becky, pleased to share #sblchat with you Tonight!

In reply to @mrsprebble84

kenmattingly Apr 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Ken, 7th grade science, Mount Vernon, KY. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Hi Brian! So glad you could join us. #sblchat

In reply to @RESP3CTtheGAME

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Happy to have you in #sblchat Tonight, Derrick!

In reply to @DerrickJCameron

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Hi Scott! #sblchat

In reply to @Scott_Schaefer

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Thanks for joining us Ken! #sblchat

In reply to @kenmattingly

LME_Principal Apr 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Hi! Gabe Hackett. Monticello, MN elementary principal #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT

We are more than happy to welcome you, Katie! #sblchat

In reply to @KatieBudrow

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Good evening Gabe! #sblchat

In reply to @LME_Principal

BradLatzke Apr 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Brad in Bangkok joining #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Brian, we have a front "Rowe" seat for You! #sblchat

In reply to @RESP3CTtheGAME

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Pleased you could join us Brad! #sblchat

In reply to @BradLatzke

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Scott, Welcome! #sblchat

In reply to @Scott_Schaefer

mac4cy Apr 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT

you might win for farthest away from me!! Glad you are here #sblchat

In reply to @BradLatzke

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Like this tweet if you're new to #sblchat and Standards-Based Grading FOR Learning so we can welcome you to our Crew!

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Ken, honored to have you join our #sblchat Crew tonight!

In reply to @kenmattingly

MrStefferCVHS Apr 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT

I'm Randy, chemistry teacher from Michigan, back after a long hiatus #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Welcome Gabe! #sblchat

In reply to @LME_Principal

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Brad, we've been waiting to welcome You! #sblchat

In reply to @BradLatzke

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Glad you are back Randy! #sblchat

In reply to @MrStefferCVHS

DouglasReeves Apr 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Doug from Boston - happy to join you once again. #sblchat https://t.co/9td2zVw02X

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Thanks for joining us Doug! #sblchat

In reply to @DouglasReeves

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Randy, we're happy to welcome you back! #sblchat

In reply to @MrStefferCVHS

beckyrahm Apr 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Becky from MN - math teacher #sblchat

BradLatzke Apr 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT

We're all the same distance on the WWW. But I'm having Thurs morn coffee! #sblchat

mac4cy Apr 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT

you might win for farthest away from me!! Glad you are here #sblchat
In reply to @BradLatzke

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Hi Becky! #sblchat

In reply to @beckyrahm

KatieBudrow Apr 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Hullo Rik! Happy Wednesday! And when are you coming to visit us? Right, @garnet_hillman and @kirk_humphreys? #sblchat

In reply to @RoweRikW, @garnet_hillman, @kirk_humphreys

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Doug, welcome fellow Bostonian! #sblchat

In reply to @DouglasReeves

KatieBudrow Apr 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Hello pal! :) #sblchat

In reply to @garnet_hillman

HarkinsEDU Apr 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Kenny, a LA teacher from VA here, preoccupied with Caps Hockey but will try to keep up #sblchat

RESP3CTtheGAME Apr 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Best seat in the house! Thanks, Rik! #sblchat

In reply to @RoweRikW

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Yes, we will have the starbucks waiting... #sblchat

In reply to @KatieBudrow, @RoweRikW, @kirk_humphreys

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Becky, pleased to welcome another Math Teacher! #sblchat

In reply to @beckyrahm

BrianAlaback Apr 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Greetings #sblchat Brian from Pensacola, FL

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Good evening Kenny! #sblchat

In reply to @HarkinsEDU

MrOzarka Apr 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT

#sblchat Chris, here. Math/computer science teacher from Batavia, IL.

In reply to @garnet_hillman

DRich0696 Apr 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Dave in Iowa trying to choose between #sblchat and #ohedchat - dazzle me quickly! #cantdobothwell

ChristieNold Apr 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Christie from VT (6th grade Social Studies & ELA) jumping in & doing laundry! #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Hi Brian! #sblchat

In reply to @BrianAlaback

cody_charles1 Apr 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Cody hs math in Iowa #sblchat

Dawn_Kilmer Apr 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Dawn PA Sask- HS Principal #sblchat

CaseyStansifer Apr 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Casey - curriculum coordinator from IN. I love this chat! #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Kenny, good luck with that task! #sblchat

In reply to @HarkinsEDU

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Great to have you along Chris! #sblchat

In reply to @MrOzarka

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Q1 Respond to the comment: ‘If I don’t grade it, students won’t do it.’ #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Hey Friend! Happy to share #sblchat time with you, Brian!

In reply to @BrianAlaback

BradLatzke Apr 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Lots of travel visiting schools/conferences on 3 continents in past month. Happy to be back with #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Brad, we've been waiting to welcome You! #sblchat
In reply to @BradLatzke

beckyrahm Apr 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Hi Garnet. Hope you have recovered from your marathon week in MN. It was so great to have you hear. Enjoyed the conversations. #sblchat

In reply to @garnet_hillman

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Ummm, no contest here...#sblchat all the way!

In reply to @DRich0696

mac4cy Apr 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT

A1-if you show the students the essentials they will see the need to do it. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Good evening Christie! #sblchat

In reply to @ChristieNold

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Hi Cody! #sblchat

In reply to @cody_charles1

JamieArmin Apr 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT

#sblchat Hi All! Jamie, MS T from MA here. Wide awake at 9pm! Vacation Week!!! I go right back to being a night owl every time! Ha!

MrDesruisseaux Apr 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT

#sblchat True

In reply to @garnet_hillman

sandeeteach Apr 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Hello #sblchat Sandy- 5th grade teacher/admin intern from Utah Great to be here! May dip into #ohedchat a bit :)

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A1 - Our #HSMath Learners choose to grow through our ungraded Learning Opportunities. They know that Feedback > Grades. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A1 My students did more once grades were not a part of formative work. Don’t set a ceiling- open the door to possibility! #sblchat

kenoc7 Apr 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT

Go Leafs!! But I can’t get hockey in my hotel room near Chicago!!!! #sblchat

In reply to @HarkinsEDU

DRich0696 Apr 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A1: Students will do the practice IF the culture is established and they see purpose. #sblchat

MrOzarka Apr 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A1-"Doing it" is a lot different than engaging with it. #sblchat

In reply to @garnet_hillman, @kenmattingly

mac4cy Apr 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A1-I had Ss work on things multiple time because they knew the importance of it #sblchat

Perednia Apr 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A1. Is tearing out my hair and screaming "Argghhhh!" a comment? :) #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT

@DRich0696 This could be you after #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT

Welcome Christie! #sblchat

In reply to @ChristieNold

ChristieNold Apr 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A1. Is it necessary to their learning that they do it? If yes, is it engaging? Relevant? Student-centered? #sblchat

kenmattingly Apr 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A1 Ss will do any work that has value for them. If they see purpose and it preps them for mastery, they will do it. No grade needed #sblchat

In reply to @garnet_hillman

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT

All recovered! It was a great week, and it is always awesome to see you and chat. Will I see you in June? #sblchat

In reply to @beckyrahm

BradLatzke Apr 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A1 Very true statement in a traditional grading system. #sblchat

Scott_Schaefer Apr 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A1: Find a way to make it more awesome. Kids do lots of things daily that are not graded. #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT

Greetings Dawn! #sblchat

In reply to @Dawn_Kilmer

KatieBudrow Apr 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT

A1 Students will do work that is meaningful. They need to know the why behind it and how it will help them learn. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT

A1 Grades don’t motivate Ss; success does. They don’t add to the learning experience- give yourself permission to grade less. #sblchat

KatieBudrow Apr 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT

Wait wait wait, @kenoc7, did you just say you are in Lincolnshire? Perhaps we should make you come visit us too! :) #sblchat

In reply to @RoweRikW, @garnet_hillman, @kirk_humphreys, @kenoc7

mrsprebble84 Apr 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT

A1: Why not? #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT

Casey, we do too and love that You are here! #sblchat

In reply to @CaseyStansifer

mac4cy Apr 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT

This is it exactly. If they are these students will know the importance and "do it" #sblchat

ChristieNold Apr 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A1. Is it necessary to their learning that they do it? If yes, is it engaging? Relevant? Student-centered? #sblchat

MrOzarka Apr 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT

A1-Extrinsic motivation has been scientifically proven to cause learners to not engage as much... #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Q1 Respond to the comment: ‘If I don’t grade it, students won’t do it.’ #sblchat

DRich0696 Apr 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT

Probably not, but I like your thinking. #sblchat

In reply to @RoweRikW

MrStefferCVHS Apr 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT

A1 - What is false? If it is meaningful and students have buy in, they will do it. Everyone deep down wants to learn! #sblchat

kenoc7 Apr 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT

A1 We trained them into it, we can lead them out. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Q1 Respond to the comment: ‘If I don’t grade it, students won’t do it.’ #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT

Hi Dear Friend! Welcome! #sblchat

In reply to @sandeeteach

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT

RT Q1 Respond to the comment: ‘If I don’t grade it, students won’t do it.’ #sblchat

LauraSSeinfeld Apr 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT

A1 Problem based learning and performance based assessment - Laura, supt in ny. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT

Welcome Dawn! #sblchat

In reply to @Dawn_Kilmer

beckyrahm Apr 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT

A1 Culture shift in the classroom when #sblchat If meaningful practice kids will do it.

CaseyStansifer Apr 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT

If students are only completing HW for a grade, we need to design better assessments. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Q1 Respond to the comment: ‘If I don’t grade it, students won’t do it.’ #sblchat

Perednia Apr 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT

"Don't set a ceiling" -- that's a powerful way to engage learners. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A1 My students did more once grades were not a part of formative work. Don’t set a ceiling- open the door to possibility! #sblchat

CITBrian Apr 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT

A1: If it is challenging and engaging, Ss will see the value in participating and learning. Give them more credit! #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT

Thanks Casey, we are so glad you are joining us! #sblchat

In reply to @CaseyStansifer

AggieSalterITS Apr 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT

A1 absolutly not if u create a culture and community of learning grades won't matter but our goals #sblchat my ss could care less about it

In reply to @garnet_hillman

kenmattingly Apr 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT

I have less trouble w/homework now that it's not for a grade than when it did. Ss now know purpose and see value #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT

A1 My students did more once grades were not a part of formative work. Don’t set a ceiling- open the door to possibility! #sblchat

sandeeteach Apr 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT

A1 If students don't do "your work" it must not be relevant to their lives! #sblchat

kenoc7 Apr 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT

I am close and I would like to but I’m only here for day at Stevenson tomorrow. #sblchat

In reply to @KatieBudrow, @RoweRikW, @garnet_hillman, @kirk_humphreys

AaronSBlackwel1 Apr 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT

A1: If I don't make it meaningful, kids shouldn't do it. #sblchat

JohnSchlender Apr 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT

A1 If learners are given voice & choice, see the purpose and relevance, the work will get done regardless of grades #sblchat

beckyrahm Apr 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT

A1 Some kids don't do it even when it's graded so not a valid argument. #sblchat

sandeeteach Apr 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT

Hi Rik- Great to be here to learn from the best! #sblchat

In reply to @RoweRikW

mac4cy Apr 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT

This is a huge mindset shift for both parents and students #sblchat

In reply to @kenmattingly

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT

The same thing happened to me, and now it is happening for many of the teachers I work with. #sblchat

In reply to @kenmattingly

AggieSalterITS Apr 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT

agree !! it's about learning not grading for my ss #sblchat

In reply to @garnet_hillman

AaronSBlackwel1 Apr 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT

Aaron Blackwelder HS ELA SW Washington. #sblchat

Perednia Apr 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT

Marzano really helped me out here when I wondered why others were going for rewards instead of learning. #sblchat

In reply to @MrOzarka

MrOzarka Apr 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT

Kind of like participating in #sblchat. All about the learning not more money or other incentive... :)

In reply to @AggieSalterITS, @garnet_hillman

jhnmason Apr 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT

I think a major issue is that teachers often lack specific and measurable targets. This ensures students won’t do ungraded work. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT

RT Q1 Respond to the comment: ‘If I don’t grade it, students won’t do it.’ #sblchat

LME_Principal Apr 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT

A1) Students will focus and enjoy any lesson that is engaging and meaningful. #sblchat

Perednia Apr 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT

Grade less, feedback instead? #sblchat

In reply to @garnet_hillman

kellie_bae Apr 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT

Kellie from Lake Bluff. So excited to join in tonight! #sblchat

DRich0696 Apr 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT

A1: I call it the SBL dip - there is a natural tendaency to not do practice until we build a new culture of practice = success. #sblchat

AaronSBlackwel1 Apr 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT

I'd argue to set the floor and make the sky the limit. #sblchat

In reply to @Perednia

kenmattingly Apr 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT

Yes, we've trained them that the purpose of work is a grade. It takes time and effort to change that culture, but can be done! #sblchat

In reply to @mac4cy

JamieArmin Apr 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT

#sblchat A1 Woot! I've only had handful of Ss speak directly about grades! Ownership w/ #pbl , Ss drive learning w/supports from T & peers!

DouglasReeves Apr 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT

A1: Students “only do the work for a grade?” If teachers “only do the work for the bucks,” they wouldn’t be in education. #sblchat

cody_charles1 Apr 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT

Engaging tasks do not need a grade. However, anectodotally, Ss who "play" the game of school well are motivated by a grade #sblchat

Perednia Apr 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT

The sky's the limit is what came to mind as soon as I sent that. :) #sblchat

In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT

Aaron, always pleased to share time with you in #sblchat!

In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT

Lynne, thrilled to see YOU! #sblchat

In reply to @Perednia, @MrOzarka

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT

You are right on - this is a culture issue! Culture of learning or culture of compliance? #sblchat

In reply to @AggieSalterITS

CITBrian Apr 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT

True. Grades are the only currency some of them know. That's why building a culture of learning is so important #sblchat

In reply to @cody_charles1

CaseyStansifer Apr 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT

Yes! @dylanwiliam says that learning stops when a grade is assigned. Formative with feedback yields growth! #sblchat

In reply to @Perednia, @garnet_hillman, @dylanwiliam

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT

Exactly. #sblchat

In reply to @Perednia

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT

I knew I liked You! #sblchat

Perednia Apr 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT

Grade less, feedback instead? #sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT

Kellie, we are excited to welcome you to #sblchat Tonight!

In reply to @kellie_bae

MrsPs3rdgrade Apr 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT

HI! Melissa from WA. First time in a chat. Excited to be a part of it. #sblchat

AggieSalterITS Apr 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT

A1 agree our 4k and 5k ss love school even though they don't get and don't care about grades #sblchat

In reply to @kenoc7

MrOzarka Apr 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT

Great point about success. If learners can connect success with growth rather than A's and B's, then the sky is the limit... #sblchat

In reply to @garnet_hillman

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT

@briches13 Thank you! #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT

Agreed, if grading it would make the kids do it, after one zero the problem would be solved. That's not the case. #sblchat

In reply to @beckyrahm

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT

Q2 Respond to the comment: ‘This is not how it was when I went to school.’ #sblchat

AaronSBlackwel1 Apr 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT

Glad to be here my friend. #sblchat

In reply to @RoweRikW

JamieArmin Apr 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT

#sblchat A1 Connecting standards & skills to real world has made for a 21st classroom or learning studio as I call it! Fabulous learning!

mac4cy Apr 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT

I am so proud of our district for starting with the culture first. Makes mindshift easier. #sblchat

In reply to @kenmattingly

RESP3CTtheGAME Apr 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT

A1 Honor learning with respectful tasks. Learner voice infused in planning, assessing, adjusting, reflecting #sblchat

Dawn_Kilmer Apr 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT

A1- authentic meaningful tasks, with growth for the learner understood by the learner as the goal =no mark required just feedback #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT

Hi Dear Friend! Psyched to see you in #sblchat Tonight!

In reply to @JamieArmin

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT

Hi Aaron, thanks for joining us! #sblchat

In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1

Perednia Apr 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT

You too, good friend! #sblchat

In reply to @RoweRikW, @MrOzarka

cody_charles1 Apr 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT

It's a cultural paradigm shift. "Traditional" school will not disappear overnight #sblchat

In reply to @CITBrian

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT

A2 - So thankful for how learning has evolved since when I was in HS and College. Let's take advantage of an #InnovatorsMindset. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT

A2 Change is inevitable. When improvement is on the horizon we must act. Stagnation is not an option in a learning environment. #sblchat

JamieArmin Apr 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT

Hello Rik!!! Great to chat with you!!! Hope all is well!!! #sblchat

In reply to @RoweRikW

jhnmason Apr 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT

Tchrs can help teach & show stdnts their effort makes a difference. Show them where they are,where they’re going,how to get there. #sblchat

CaseyStansifer Apr 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT

A1 - if doctors practice today like they did 50 years ago, it would be called malpractice. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT

Q2 Respond to the comment: ‘This is not how it was when I went to school.’ #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT

Welcome Melissa! #sblchat

In reply to @MrsPs3rdgrade

MrOzarka Apr 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT

A2-I hope not. Our scientific understanding of learning has improved. Shouldn't our teaching/learning/assessing/fb? #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT

Q2 Respond to the comment: ‘This is not how it was when I went to school.’ #sblchat

DRich0696 Apr 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT

A2: We've continued to work hard to improve the teaching and learning strategies and techniques so education is always evolving. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT

A2 The world is not the same as when I went to school. Model a growth mindset for Ss and practice what you preach. #sblchat

KatieBudrow Apr 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT

A2 Nope, me either. But let me show you how cool it is for learning! #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT

Let's welcome Melissa {@MrsPs3rdgrade} to her first #sblchat Tonight!

In reply to @MrsPs3rdgrade, @MrsPs3rdgrade

AaronSBlackwel1 Apr 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT

A2: You're right. Back then the commodity was manufactured in factories. Today it is ideas. #sblchat

ChristieNold Apr 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT

A2. "It's really exciting to see the changes in action, I'd love to have you in my classroom sometime to check it out..." #sblchat

CaseyStansifer Apr 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT

A2 - If doctors practice today like they did 50 years ago, it would be called malpractice. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT

Q2 Respond to the comment: ‘This is not how it was when I went to school.’ #sblchat

DouglasReeves Apr 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT

A2: “It was better when I was in School . . .” is the argument of every parent since Socrates. #sblchat https://t.co/9td2zVw02X

joherraharris Apr 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT

The world is not the same as when we were in school either #sblchat

jhnmason Apr 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT

Did you find learning that way was always best? What motivates you to do better & makes you a better learner? Probably not grades. #sblchat

kenmattingly Apr 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT

A1 Yes, but think of info we get on student learning. Ss know what they're supposed to learn, how they're doing, & where to go next #sblchat

In reply to @garnet_hillman

BradLatzke Apr 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT

A2 What do we know about learning today that wasn't understood "when you went to school?" #sblchat

KatieBudrow Apr 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT

Love it. Show off that awesomeness. :) #sblchat

In reply to @ChristieNold

jgraf36 Apr 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT

John from West Bend A2 - Well like all professions we change, make adaptations, and meet the needs of our customers #sblchat

In reply to @garnet_hillman

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT

RT Q2 Respond to the comment: ‘This is not how it was when I went to school.’ #sblchat

kirk_humphreys Apr 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT

Kirk joining late from north of Chicago. Math teacher of 6-8th graders. #sblchat

AggieSalterITS Apr 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT

yes create the love for learning and growing not compliance #sblchat

In reply to @cody_charles1

mrsprebble84 Apr 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT

A2: You're right. Our profession has learned and grown so much since then and we are offering our Ss today's best practice #sblchat

kenoc7 Apr 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT

A2 Thank heavens!! I’m glad my doctor, dentist, plumber, TV, car, etc. aren’t the same as when I was in school in the Dark Ages. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT

Q2 Respond to the comment: ‘This is not how it was when I went to school.’ #sblchat

Scott_Schaefer Apr 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT

A2: So you support it? Lots of things have changed since you were in school! #sblchat

memayer21 Apr 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT

https://t.co/K6SUPACA9b #kidsdeserveit #sblchat #BmoreEdchat #leadupchat #iledchat

Perednia Apr 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT

A2. The world has changed since I went to school, and learning needs to as well. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT

Hello neighbor! Don't worry - I'll get you caught up in the morning. ;) #sblchat

In reply to @kirk_humphreys

cody_charles1 Apr 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT

A2:do professional and collegiate coaches coach the game how it was when they played? Tech driven culture requires a paradigm shift #sblchat

jhnmason Apr 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT

I’d also ask them to explain the value and difference between an 86 and 88..how is that effective feedback? What does it tell me? #sblchat

kirk_humphreys Apr 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT

A2: thank goodness #sblchat

CITBrian Apr 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT

A2: "Get off my lawn." But seriously, progress means change. Schools need to adapt to the changing needs of society and this gen. #sblchat

Perednia Apr 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT

Love the invitation in your response! #sblchat

In reply to @ChristieNold

beckyrahm Apr 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT

A2 It's our job as educators to learn too. Research shows kids learn better with feedback not grades. Doing what's best for the Ss #sblchat

Jldunnsonn Apr 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT

Jesse Dunn joining from Huntingdon College #edtech #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT

Welcome Jesse! #sblchat

In reply to @Jldunnsonn

AggieSalterITS Apr 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT

A1 r ur ss leave ur classroom inspired, couries wanting 2 be back the next day? if not ur doing it wrong grades can't do that #sblchat

kirk_humphreys Apr 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT

In the artic tundra of our rooms? #sblchat

In reply to @garnet_hillman

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:22 PM EDT

Jesse, Welcome! #sblchat

In reply to @Jldunnsonn

Diana_Sarao Apr 19 @ 9:22 PM EDT

Jumping in late- Diana from Katy, Texas. #sblchat

RESP3CTtheGAME Apr 19 @ 9:22 PM EDT

The more invested in personalized learning, the greater the need for understanding the impact of assessment #sblchat #plrnchat #plearnchat

In reply to @allison_zmuda

MrOzarka Apr 19 @ 9:22 PM EDT

A2-Maybe answer back with a quote... #sblchat

In reply to @garnet_hillman

Perednia Apr 19 @ 9:22 PM EDT

Welcome from this fellow WA state educator #sblchat

In reply to @MrsPs3rdgrade

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:22 PM EDT

Justin Thyme, Diana! #sblchat

In reply to @Diana_Sarao

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:22 PM EDT

Hi Diana! #sblchat

In reply to @Diana_Sarao

ChristieNold Apr 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT

Are you saying I'm not the only one who needs to bring a parka to school? #sblchat

In reply to @kirk_humphreys, @garnet_hillman

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT

It is like the definition of insanity - keep doing the same thing but expect different results? #sblchat

In reply to @MrOzarka

POWERofICU Apr 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT

A1) Teachers have been grading everything and about one third of students either don't do it or turn in nonsense. #insanity #sblchat

AggieSalterITS Apr 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT

A2 if u teach todays children the way u taught yesterdays u rab tham of tomorrow" JD #sblchat

In reply to @garnet_hillman

AggieSalterITS Apr 19 @ 9:24 PM EDT

hey John so nice to see u ! #sblchat

In reply to @jgraf36, @garnet_hillman

kenoc7 Apr 19 @ 9:24 PM EDT

Good! Danny snuck in to #sblchat

In reply to @POWERofICU

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:24 PM EDT

So pleased to welcome You to #sblchat Tonight!

In reply to @POWERofICU

DrMathena Apr 19 @ 9:24 PM EDT

Jumping in from MD. Recent Ed.D. grad from Liberty U. -standards-based grading expert/library media specialist #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT

Q3 Respond to the comment: ‘Why are there so many less grades in the grade book? #sblchat

beckyrahm Apr 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT

A2 My gut reaction is to say "and how did you do in school" but I refrain. #sblchat

MrOzarka Apr 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT

A2-Exactly. If you think learners are only doing something for points, then you might want to reassess your relationship with them. #sblchat

In reply to @garnet_hillman

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT

Hi Ann! #sblchat

In reply to @DrMathena

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT

Ann, Welcome! We're almost ready for Q3! #sblchat

In reply to @DrMathena

AggieSalterITS Apr 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT

I know need a little break from work :) #sblchat is so uplifting :-)

In reply to @jgraf36, @garnet_hillman

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT

A3 - We have fewer grades in our grade book since our most recent evidence of proficiency on a Standard replaces the prior one. #sblchat

MrOzarka Apr 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT

@CoachLesterBHS Are you #sblchat tonight? Missing your tweets, sir.

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT

A3 Grading less reduces stress for students. The high stakes mentality associated with school is replaced with a focus on learning. #sblchat

Scott_Schaefer Apr 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT

A3: Fewer grades with more meaning. #sblchat

cody_charles1 Apr 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT

A2: another point: does google or Apple ever "change?" Fairly successful companies who thrive because of innovation #sblchat

POWERofICU Apr 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT

A1) There is absolutely no correlation between grading assignments and teaching responsibility. #sblchat

joherraharris Apr 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT

A2: society changed with the emergence of tech and divide bet rich and poor widens we must prepare #sblchat

ChristieNold Apr 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT

My Q3 is often "where are the grades?" #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT

We still need to "sell" this, Scott! #sblchat

Scott_Schaefer Apr 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT

A3: Fewer grades with more meaning. #sblchat

kenmattingly Apr 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT

A3 Practice is now given feedback but no grades. Grades are determined after ample practice time and correction of mistakes. #sblchat

In reply to @garnet_hillman

kenoc7 Apr 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT

A3 Quality is better than quantity and I only include “performance” not practice. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT

Q3 Respond to the comment: ‘Why are there so many less grades in the grade book? #sblchat

ChristieNold Apr 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT

YESSSSS!!! THIS. #sblchat

In reply to @RoweRikW

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT

A3 Allow students time to develop proficiency prior to making a judgement about levels. This honors the natural learning process. #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT

A3 - Traditional grade books record all activities & assignments. With SBG, we grow through ungraded FAs until it's time to grade. #sblchat

KatieBudrow Apr 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT

A3 Learning takes time. We want to show you some really cool projects. But if you need more info in the meantime, we can do that! #sblchat

AggieSalterITS Apr 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT

A2 yes we r preparing our ss 4 jobs that r yet2 b invented they need 2 take risk, learn from their mistakes, learn & unlearn #sblchat

In reply to @garnet_hillman

jhnmason Apr 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT

A3 Mastery of complex standards requires more time and work but truly pushes the students to grow, change, and learn. #sblchat

DrMathena Apr 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT

A3: Formative assessment should drive instruction and not be used for grades. Grades should show depth of knowledge. #sblchat

MrOzarka Apr 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT

A3-I focus on quality over quantity! Averaging does not reflect growth! #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT

Q3 Respond to the comment: ‘Why are there so many less grades in the grade book? #sblchat

mrsprebble84 Apr 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT

A3: In order to give clear and informative information I have cut back on quantity so I can ensure accuracy and quality #sblchat

AaronSBlackwel1 Apr 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT

A3: We only assess what matters and we're going to reassess until they get it. #sblchat

DRich0696 Apr 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT

A3: We use evidence of performance against standards to determine grades, not practice. We assess when Ss are ready to perform. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT

RT Q3 Respond to the comment: ‘Why are there so many less grades in the grade book? #sblchat

beckyrahm Apr 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT

Oooooo that's gold! Saving that language. Thanks. #sblchat

In reply to @garnet_hillman

Scott_Schaefer Apr 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT

Indeed. In grading conversations, my most common question is, "What does the grade mean?" Hard to answer. #sblchat

In reply to @RoweRikW

JamieArmin Apr 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT

#sblchat A3 How are you learning? It's about that. Making mistakes. Redos. Revising. Try outs! Process not product! Skill development.

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT

Resilience and Perseverance... #sblchat

jhnmason Apr 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT

A3 Mastery of complex standards requires more time and work but truly pushes the students to grow, change, and learn. #sblchat

Perednia Apr 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT

A3. Because each grade reflects progress on a specific learning standard. #sblchat

prisftorres Apr 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT

A1 If Ss are only motivated by a grade Ts need to ask themselves what they're doing wrong/make formatives part of learning journey #sblchat

ChristieNold Apr 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT

A3. I'd love to answer any questions you might have about your Ss understanding #sblchat

hhschiaravalli Apr 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT

Jumping in here way late. Hi everyone! Arthur from Haslett, MI ELA 12 and AP English #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT

Hi Arthur - thanks for joining us! #sblchat

In reply to @hhschiaravalli

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT

Exactly Scott! With SBG, we can discern proficiency levels per Standard. #sblchat

Scott_Schaefer Apr 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT

Indeed. In grading conversations, my most common question is, "What does the grade mean?" Hard to answer. #sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW

Diana_Sarao Apr 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT

Very clear to understand. #sblchat

In reply to @kenmattingly, @garnet_hillman

MrOzarka Apr 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT

A3-I'm grading less so I have time to give more meaningful feedback and develop relationships... #sblchat :)

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT

RT Q3 Respond to the comment: ‘Why are there so many less grades in the grade book? #sblchat

joherraharris Apr 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT

Less grades bc assignments are more meaningful requiring critical thinking with common core #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:30 PM EDT

HUGE BAM!! #sblchat

AaronSBlackwel1 Apr 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT

A3: We only assess what matters and we're going to reassess until they get it. #sblchat

AggieSalterITS Apr 19 @ 9:30 PM EDT

A3 formative feedback vs summative, feedback is just a check in 4 T 2 adjust their teaching help ss #sblchat don't gradecoloring sheet :-)

In reply to @garnet_hillman

walkerjd40 Apr 19 @ 9:30 PM EDT

Hi everyone...coming in late. Jessica from Alabama #sblchat

kenoc7 Apr 19 @ 9:30 PM EDT

Progress or achievement? Progress is relative, achievement is absolute. Not the same. #sblchat

In reply to @Perednia

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:30 PM EDT

Hi Jessica! #sblchat

In reply to @walkerjd40

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:30 PM EDT

Welcome Arthur! #sblchat

In reply to @hhschiaravalli

LME_Principal Apr 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT

Hopefully less grades means we are focusing on recent evidence of learning those essential outcomes. #sblchat

kirk_humphreys Apr 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT

A3: Because I am grading learning, not compliance. Learning takes time. #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT

Jessica, Welcome to #sblchat Tonight!

In reply to @walkerjd40

MrOzarka Apr 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT

I love this! I do the exact same thing. It shows growth better than averaging. #sblchat

In reply to @RoweRikW

Perednia Apr 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT

Excellent point. I've used progress as the goalpost. #sblchat

In reply to @kenoc7

mctownsley Apr 19 @ 9:32 PM EDT

#sblchat A3) We’re focusing our feedback on the most important course ideas right now!

hhschiaravalli Apr 19 @ 9:32 PM EDT

A3: Grades reduce student interest, preference for difficult tasks, quality of thought, quality of relationships, etc. etc. etc. #sblchat

CivicsEngaged Apr 19 @ 9:32 PM EDT

A2: Amazon and Google were much different 30 years ago too! #sblchat

JamieArmin Apr 19 @ 9:32 PM EDT

#sblchat A3 My Ss are reflecting & self-assessing throughout and know themselves pretty well! Sometimes too hard on themselves! We chat.

BradLatzke Apr 19 @ 9:32 PM EDT

A3 Fewr summative grades should be accompanied with increase in formative assessmnts & various feedback loops. Learning not grading #sblchat

AggieSalterITS Apr 19 @ 9:33 PM EDT

yes it's important 2 use formative assessment often 2 check where ur ss r but don't use it 4 summative #sblchat

In reply to @garnet_hillman

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:33 PM EDT

A3 - Would we want to be "graded" after an observation? I think not. We all want Feedback. #sblchat

POWERofICU Apr 19 @ 9:33 PM EDT

A2) And the earth isn't flat.#sblchat

kenoc7 Apr 19 @ 9:33 PM EDT

The administrator of the year in Central Iowa snuck into #sblchat too. Hi Matt and congratulations.

In reply to @mctownsley

MrOzarka Apr 19 @ 9:33 PM EDT

Agree! Ss need to develop a personal understanding of content and not try to figure out how to use it on a test. This takes time. #sblchat

In reply to @KatieBudrow

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:34 PM EDT

Q4 Respond to the comment: ‘Why make the switch? 4=A 3=B 2=C 1=D 0=F.’ #sblchat

CivicsEngaged Apr 19 @ 9:34 PM EDT

A3: Less grades bc bringing school supplies, simply showing up and daily tasks are not at the center of learning #sblchat

hhschiaravalli Apr 19 @ 9:34 PM EDT

And we know the effect that EVALUATIONS have on us as teachers. We don't take risks. Too dangerous. Feedback no such problem. #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:33 PM EDT

A3 - Would we want to be "graded" after an observation? I think not. We all want Feedback. #sblchat

mctownsley Apr 19 @ 9:34 PM EDT

#sblchat A4) A four point scale allows teachers to be more consistent in communicating learning.

RESP3CTtheGAME Apr 19 @ 9:34 PM EDT

A2 Thank goodness! Our kids are lucky. How much of your learning do you remember from when we were in school? #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT

Q2 Respond to the comment: ‘This is not how it was when I went to school.’ #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:35 PM EDT

A4 Proficiency levels do not directly correspond to letter grades. If you must use them, there are many examples of how to convert. #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:35 PM EDT

A4 - With a 4-point scale, our Learners focus more on our Collaborative Learning rather than accumulating points from 100. #sblchat

mctownsley Apr 19 @ 9:35 PM EDT

Hello and thank you, Ken! #sblchat

In reply to @kenoc7

JamieArmin Apr 19 @ 9:35 PM EDT

Truth!!! #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:33 PM EDT

A3 - Would we want to be "graded" after an observation? I think not. We all want Feedback. #sblchat

ChristieNold Apr 19 @ 9:35 PM EDT

A4. We use "emerging, developing, proficient, and expanding" to describe a Ss current understanding/ability #sblchat

kenoc7 Apr 19 @ 9:35 PM EDT

A4 I wouldn’t make that switch. I would you use two to five levels but I wouldn’t link them to letter grades or %. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:34 PM EDT

Q4 Respond to the comment: ‘Why make the switch? 4=A 3=B 2=C 1=D 0=F.’ #sblchat

mctownsley Apr 19 @ 9:35 PM EDT

great point Rik about “point accumulation” #sblchat

In reply to @RoweRikW

ChristieNold Apr 19 @ 9:35 PM EDT

By "we" I mean the two of us doing this at my school (hah) #sblchat

CivicsEngaged Apr 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT

A4: Current GPA system puts value on ranking and sorting, not learning. #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT

A4 - Our #HSMath Learners anticipate the Colored Stickers & Feedback to keep the learning going, rather than grades that #STOPIT! #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT

A4 Any sort of mark/grade needs to be as accurate as possible. Traditional methods for determining A,B,etc are very unclear. #sblchat

Diana_Sarao Apr 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT

A4: A 4 point scale is more accurate than a 100 point scale. #sblchat

AggieSalterITS Apr 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT

A4 if u replace letter grades with numbers&don't change ur practice don't do it it's about creating culture of learning not grading #sblchat

In reply to @garnet_hillman

MrOzarka Apr 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT

I love this! Progress is growth and involves Ss doing the best they can. Not being the best in the room... #sblchat

In reply to @kenoc7, @Perednia

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT

Congratulations Matt! We commend you for all you do for Learning! #sblchat

In reply to @mctownsley, @kenoc7

DRich0696 Apr 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT

A4: Simple - 4-3-2-1 is more accurate and much easier. Each should come with descriptors IMO #sblchat

mctownsley Apr 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT

#sblchat A4) Also, a few ways to convert standards to letter grades https://t.co/Cs0Sey3YM4

aflatebo Apr 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT

A4: a four point scale leads for less confusion then what equals a certain letter grade and percentage #sblchat

DrMathena Apr 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT

A4: SBG shows what students know, and their level of proficiency. Compares Ss to standards, not to other Ss. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT

RT Q4 Respond to the comment: ‘Why make the switch? 4=A 3=B 2=C 1=D 0=F.’ #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT

A4 - Our Learners appreciate our: 4.0 - Exemplary (Blue) 3.0 - Proficient (Green) 2.0 - Approaching (Yellow) 1.0 - Beginning (Red) #sblchat

kenmattingly Apr 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT

A4 My levels inform Ss on their performance. Letter grades are nebulous. Ss know what they have to do to hit each level and move up #sblchat

In reply to @garnet_hillman

TheWeirdTeacher Apr 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT

#sblchat A2 "The BeforeTimes sound scary, Grandpa. Was it drafty in the one room schoolhouse?"

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT

Q2 Respond to the comment: ‘This is not how it was when I went to school.’ #sblchat

Diana_Sarao Apr 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT

It only takes a spark! #sblchat

ChristieNold Apr 19 @ 9:35 PM EDT

By "we" I mean the two of us doing this at my school (hah) #sblchat

hhschiaravalli Apr 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT

A4: Not the biggest fan of scales in general, but it is at least mathematically proportional (unlike the 100-point scale). #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT

Then #STOPIT! #sblchat

CivicsEngaged Apr 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT

A4: Current GPA system puts value on ranking and sorting, not learning. #sblchat

JohnSchlender Apr 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT

A4 It doesn't matter what symbol you use or how many, as long as all are clear on what that symbol truly means. #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT

Thank you Diana! #sblchat

Diana_Sarao Apr 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT

A4: A 4 point scale is more accurate than a 100 point scale. #sblchat

ChristieNold Apr 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT

Hmm... I'm curious about your colors. To me, "red" is as shocking as "F" - ? #sblchat

In reply to @RoweRikW

JamieArmin Apr 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT

I carry my clipboard w/notes, ?s, etc...haven't used a grade book in 20 yrs. Grades are so subjective, based on our experiences. #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT

A3 - Traditional grade books record all activities & assignments. With SBG, we grow through ungraded FAs until it's time to grade. #sblchat

mrsprebble84 Apr 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT

A4: I can see where it appears to be the same thing, but we are no longer thinking in letters the numbers are levels of mastery. #sblchat

AaronSBlackwel1 Apr 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT

A4: This is often the perception of stakeholders. I prefer narrative feedback over grades with a meets/approaches proficiency. #sblchat

Terencewhite23 Apr 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT

Terence white 7th grade science here late #sblchat

AggieSalterITS Apr 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT

A4 ok i guess it may seem like an easy transition but u may set every one 4 a failure #sblchat

In reply to @garnet_hillman

CaseyStansifer Apr 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT

A4 - @tguskey tells us that a 100 pt scale increases grading inconsistency. #sblchat #onyourmark @laurajlink @NWAllenSchoolFW

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:34 PM EDT

Q4 Respond to the comment: ‘Why make the switch? 4=A 3=B 2=C 1=D 0=F.’ #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT

Ah yes :) Unfortunately this is a comment that comes up. Communication about the why and how is so important! #sblchat

In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1

BradLatzke Apr 19 @ 9:39 PM EDT

A4 Proficiency scales reflect growth, latest learning (I got it now!). A-F reflect averaging, penalties for mistakes. #sblchat

walkerjd40 Apr 19 @ 9:39 PM EDT

We are in our first year. We use 1 2 and 3. 3 being proficient. Does anyone then use 2.5 or 1.5? #sblchat

Terencewhite23 Apr 19 @ 9:39 PM EDT

A2: it's called evolution! Parts of society get better with time! To say back in my time, make one sound stuck in the past! #sblchat

hhschiaravalli Apr 19 @ 9:39 PM EDT

A4: Also, fewer levels. The arrogance of the 100-point scale. If taken to the hundredths place, 10,001 levels of performance! #sblchat

aflatebo Apr 19 @ 9:39 PM EDT

Agreed! Open communication to staff, students, and parents on what each symbol means is important for common understanding! #sblchat

In reply to @JohnSchlender

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:39 PM EDT

We use colors, though "red" creates a more urgent need for Extra Practice, Communication, and Collaboration FOR Learning! #sblchat

In reply to @ChristieNold

jwalkup Apr 19 @ 9:39 PM EDT

A4: Looks to me like you're just relabeling. #sblchat

ChristieNold Apr 19 @ 9:40 PM EDT

Yes! This is an important difference! #sblchat

In reply to @BradLatzke

AggieSalterITS Apr 19 @ 9:40 PM EDT

#sblchat A4 add rubrics don just leave it to the numbers DO NOT average itś the final assessment that matters

In reply to @DRich0696

kenoc7 Apr 19 @ 9:40 PM EDT

Every teacher judgement and every piece of feedback is subjective. We shouldn’t use “subjective" pejoratively. #sblchat

JamieArmin Apr 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
I carry my clipboard w/notes, ?s, etc...haven't used a grade book in 20 yrs. Grades are so subjective, based on our experiences. #sblchat
- RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT
  
  A3 - Traditional grade books record all activities & assignments. With SBG, we grow through ungraded FAs until it's time to grade. #sblchat

cody_charles1 Apr 19 @ 9:40 PM EDT

A4: 4 point scale provides more clarity, better metrics, and equality between each letter. How exactly is 83% diff from 87%? #sblchat

ChristieNold Apr 19 @ 9:41 PM EDT

I like the emphasis on FOR - awesome! I think I'm still in the "avoid red at all costs in education" frame of thinking #sblchat

In reply to @RoweRikW

jwalkup Apr 19 @ 9:41 PM EDT

Seriously though, my point is that reducing number of levels just gives false sense of precision. It's really not there. #sblchat

In reply to @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:41 PM EDT

Terence, we're pleased to welcome you! #sblchat

In reply to @Terencewhite23

POWERofICU Apr 19 @ 9:41 PM EDT

A3) With the new state standards,I can only give grades that reflect your child's learning.I can't give non-academic grades anymore.#sblchat

DRich0696 Apr 19 @ 9:41 PM EDT

Agreed - but at HS level sooner or later we have to put a number down somewhere. #sblchat

In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1

Scott_Schaefer Apr 19 @ 9:41 PM EDT

Mostly agree. Research suggests that fewer proficiency levels (5 or less) lead to more reliability. Define those levels though! #sblchat

In reply to @JohnSchlender

mctownsley Apr 19 @ 9:41 PM EDT

I’ve found it’s easier to create consistency around fewer indicators. Isn’t that a good thing? #sblchat

In reply to @jwalkup, @RoweRikW

jwalkup Apr 19 @ 9:42 PM EDT

Perhaps there is an ideal granularity. Why do we just assume a 4-level granularity is ideal? #sblchat

In reply to @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:42 PM EDT

Would you prefer "orange"? "Orange" you glad I have another colored option? #sblchat

ChristieNold Apr 19 @ 9:41 PM EDT

I like the emphasis on FOR - awesome! I think I'm still in the "avoid red at all costs in education" frame of thinking #sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW

kenoc7 Apr 19 @ 9:42 PM EDT

Hopefully not - that just creates a 5 level scale without clear meaning for two levels. #sblchat

In reply to @walkerjd40

Diana_Sarao Apr 19 @ 9:42 PM EDT

It's 4% different. 😜 ha! Yes, I agree. #sblchat

In reply to @cody_charles1

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:42 PM EDT

Although the symbol doesn't matter as long as the proficiency levels are well defined, letter grades carry such a deep history. #sblchat

brian_arnot Apr 19 @ 9:42 PM EDT

#sblchat joining late from Issaquah, wa

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:42 PM EDT

Hi Brian! #sblchat

In reply to @brian_arnot

kenmattingly Apr 19 @ 9:42 PM EDT

Agreed, I think our job is to make grading as objective as possible. Clear targets, clear assessments, meaningful feedback, etc. #sblchat

kenoc7 Apr 19 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Every teacher judgement and every piece of feedback is subjective. We shouldn’t use “subjective" pejoratively. #sblchat
- JamieArmin Apr 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
  
  I carry my clipboard w/notes, ?s, etc...haven't used a grade book in 20 yrs. Grades are so subjective, based on our experiences. #sblchat
  
  RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT
  
  A3 - Traditional grade books record all activities & assignments. With SBG, we grow through ungraded FAs until it's time to grade. #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:42 PM EDT

Our Learners identify their Proficiency Level immediately with the colored sticker! #sblchat

In reply to @mrsprebble84, @ChristieNold

jwalkup Apr 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT

No, because again you're swapping accuracy for precision. If you only had 1 level, u would have (in principle) infinite precision. #sblchat

In reply to @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT

Q5 One of the major hurdles of the shift to SBG is parent communication. What are some ways to help them buy in? #sblchat

DrMathena Apr 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT

Can't compare proficiency scores to letter grades. Don't correlate. Parents want letter grades. Ss want to show what they learned. #sblchat

aflatebo Apr 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT

Ashley Flatebo, instructional coach from Mason City joining late! #sblchat

DouglasReeves Apr 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT

A5: Parents need to know that we’re all on the same side - we ALL want personal responsibility and work ethic. #sblchat

jwalkup Apr 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT

So why is everyone talking about how great four levels is when we haven't established that it's better? #sblchat

In reply to @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

mctownsley Apr 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT

if working w/students until they “get it,” I’ve always thought the lower indicators are a bit arbitrary. #sblchat

In reply to @jwalkup, @RoweRikW

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:44 PM EDT

A5 First and foremost, let parents know that you care most about their child and their learning. This sets the stage for buy in. #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:44 PM EDT

A5 - We can all do a better job with Parent Communication starting at the Open House. #GoodCallsHome help too! #sblchat @amgonza

mrsprebble84 Apr 19 @ 9:44 PM EDT

Hmmm...trying to picture. Only on Summatives of whenever you give feedback? #sblchat

In reply to @RoweRikW, @ChristieNold

kenoc7 Apr 19 @ 9:44 PM EDT

No, less levels means greater accuracy and consistency. It is % that give a false sense of precision. #sblchat

In reply to @jwalkup, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

jwalkup Apr 19 @ 9:44 PM EDT

After all, why not use a 10-point scale? #sblchat

In reply to @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:44 PM EDT

Welcome Ashley! #sblchat

In reply to @aflatebo

mctownsley Apr 19 @ 9:44 PM EDT

I think it’s an example…and an easy contrast to typical 100 point scale used in classrooms, that’s all. #sblchat

In reply to @jwalkup, @RoweRikW

Diana_Sarao Apr 19 @ 9:44 PM EDT

A5: Parent coffee- @KrissyBertrand made a great video for parents who couldn't attend. Focus was on providing feedback. #sblchat

MrOzarka Apr 19 @ 9:44 PM EDT

By using 0.5 increments, you essentially are going in between parts of a rubric that don't exist. Needs to be discrete to be clear. #sblchat

In reply to @kenoc7, @walkerjd40

KatieBudrow Apr 19 @ 9:44 PM EDT

My district uses 4 levels but my Ss prefer 3. Learning should be described at every level. The more you add, the harder this is. #sblchat

In reply to @walkerjd40

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A5 Always explain the ‘why?’ for a change. We don’t change for change’s sake, so communicate this! #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A5 - We struggle keeping Parents updated since we have a diverse population and need communication translated in 3+ languages. #sblchat

KatieBudrow Apr 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A5 Provide that communication, just in a different way. Narratives are a great way to do this! So are those good emails home! #sblchat

Meffscience Apr 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A5: Get them involved early in the process. We included many in a book student of “Repair Kit for Grading” by @kenoc7 #sblchat

Scott_Schaefer Apr 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT

This history can be relearned. I have seen it happen. #sblchat

In reply to @garnet_hillman

aflatebo Apr 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A5: Bring them in from the beginning-establish the "why" for the switch with all stakeholders around the table. #sblchat

ChristieNold Apr 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A5. We held "open classroom times" at school to discuss - tried to have at various times, also used open house, email, phone calls #sblchat

DouglasReeves Apr 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT

Note for parents and others on the “good old days” - 100,000+ kids still receive corporal punishment. https://t.co/dbqDxXWxEv #sblchat

CivicsEngaged Apr 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A5: Necessary to foster culture of learning so that shift to sbl grading fits into a broader context that has MEANING for learners #sblchat

EducatorSimison Apr 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT

@BA_Peel @srakollwitz there's a #sblchat going on at the moment.If you can't watch it live,use the hashtag later to review the conversation!

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT

We aim to use the colored stickers along with Feedback on every learning opportunity (FAs). #sblchat

In reply to @mrsprebble84, @ChristieNold

jwalkup Apr 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT

Not accuracy. But consistency. In other words, less accuracy - more precision. #sblchat

In reply to @kenoc7, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

kenmattingly Apr 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A5 The first step is communication. Parents need help understanding. Every convo I've had ends w/Ps saying, "well that makes sense" #sblchat

In reply to @garnet_hillman

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT

Please welcome Susan {@MagicMahlbuS} to #sblchat Tonight!

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT

RT Q5 One of the major hurdles of the shift to SBG is parent communication. What are some ways to help them buy in? #sblchat

CITBrian Apr 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT

If you can clearly define the differences between each of the performance levels, why not? #sblchat

In reply to @jwalkup, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

ChristieNold Apr 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT

It happens automatically in our LMS (so, every time) #sblchat

In reply to @RoweRikW, @mrsprebble84

jwalkup Apr 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT

Why not two levels? Pass/fail. You either got it or you didn't. LOTS of precision with that scheme. But is it accurate? #sblchat

In reply to @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

mrsprebble84 Apr 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT

A5: Clear communication and opportunities for dialogue. And getting Ss to buy in. Do parents with happy kids ever fight that? #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT

That it can, we just have to be ready for the work. #sblchat

In reply to @Scott_Schaefer

kirk_humphreys Apr 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT

A4: We need to leave grades behind. #sblchat

Scott_Schaefer Apr 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT

I have a hard time defining, with words, more than 4-5 levels. #sblchat

In reply to @jwalkup, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

DouglasReeves Apr 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT

@jwalkup - 2 levels ARE appropriate on things like safety. More nuance on more complex skills. #sblchat https://t.co/9td2zVw02X

MrOzarka Apr 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT

This continuous spectrum you're describing is difficult/impossible to put into a rubric. It is not clear at all... #sblchat

In reply to @jwalkup, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

DRich0696 Apr 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT

A5: Over-communicate in initial stages and be transparent. #sblchat

kenmattingly Apr 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT

A5 To help with that, here's the letter I send home to Ps explaining the SBG grading process. #sblchat https://t.co/A642HNcD4C

In reply to @garnet_hillman

jwalkup Apr 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT

In the end, aren't the 100-point scales transformed into a five-point scale anyway? (A, B, C, D, F) #sblchat

In reply to @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

AaronSBlackwel1 Apr 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT

A5: Explain that school is about learning rather than achievement. Feedback promotes learning while grades are about achievement. #sblchat

mctownsley Apr 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT

#sblchat A5) We’ve asked parent groups to complete a fictitious math test. Grade traditional and SBG to illustrate why we do what we do.

CivicsEngaged Apr 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT

A5: Provide opps for parents to voice concerns/ask Q's & train Ts. Get buy-in. Supprt T's, mentor, LEAD & 'rents get on board #sblchat

ChristieNold Apr 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT

A5. One area of improvement for us is translation - currently send home feedback in one language, not accessible to all families #sblchat

kirk_humphreys Apr 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT

A5: Showing them the "why" behind SBL first. #sblchat

hhschiaravalli Apr 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT

A5: The fact that "we'll stick with you until you get it" (as opposed to send you off with a D- or E) is a good selling point #sblchat

mctownsley Apr 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT

likewise here, Scott. #sblchat

In reply to @Scott_Schaefer, @jwalkup, @RoweRikW

DrMathena Apr 19 @ 9:48 PM EDT

A5: Student-led conferences, parent training through PTA sessions, Seesaw portfolio showing best work #sblchat

joherraharris Apr 19 @ 9:48 PM EDT

A5 if parents understood standards more this would help #sblchat

kenoc7 Apr 19 @ 9:48 PM EDT

I don’t think that makes it objective. All judgements are subjective. Clear targets, etc increases accuracy, consistency & meaning. #sblchat

In reply to @kenmattingly

BradLatzke Apr 19 @ 9:48 PM EDT

A5 Leaders need to lead! Share the "Why Change?" message. Project the future. Personalize. Use "Drive" & "End of Average." #sblchat

DouglasReeves Apr 19 @ 9:48 PM EDT

A5: Pushback on the notion of buy-in. We will NEVER get complete buy-in from parents who want only their children to succeed. #sblchat

jwalkup Apr 19 @ 9:48 PM EDT

Not sure what you mean by continuous spectrum. #sblchat

In reply to @MrOzarka, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:48 PM EDT

And bring Learning to the forefront! #sblchat

kirk_humphreys Apr 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT

A4: We need to leave grades behind. #sblchat

mctownsley Apr 19 @ 9:48 PM EDT

I’d say that’s part of the problem. Converting, converting, converting…loses meaning. #sblchat

In reply to @jwalkup, @RoweRikW

Dawn_Kilmer Apr 19 @ 9:48 PM EDT

A5 agree- it is impossible to over communicate - when we r tired of explaining, we need to keep listening, explain the why #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A5 Always explain the ‘why?’ for a change. We don’t change for change’s sake, so communicate this! #sblchat

LME_Principal Apr 19 @ 9:48 PM EDT

A5) Helping parents understand the "why" with meetings, open house, emails, and a webcast to refer back to. #sblchat

cody_charles1 Apr 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT

Simon Sinek is renowned in "start with 'why?'" Game changer. Provides a vision and catalyst for change #sblchat

In reply to @garnet_hillman

ChristieNold Apr 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT

I wonder about this - how do we help them to understand? I find them confusing at times, and this is my job! #sblchat

In reply to @joherraharris

pkpam Apr 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT

A5: Knowing what the grades were based on + basing on more than one small thing. #sblchat

jwalkup Apr 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT

Dunno about that. When it comes to getting promoted to the next level, it becomes a two-point scale anyway. U either do or u dont. #sblchat

In reply to @DouglasReeves

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT

100% agree. #sblchat

In reply to @cody_charles1

JohnSchlender Apr 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT

A5 Start with all of the things that are NOT changing - rigor, feedback, communication, etc - and then make the WHY crystal clear #sblchat

MrOzarka Apr 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT

A5-I am in the process of making a video that explains so they understand that it is a more fair way of grading... Ps love fairness #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT

Q5 One of the major hurdles of the shift to SBG is parent communication. What are some ways to help them buy in? #sblchat

AggieSalterITS Apr 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT

@BenvengaJoe hey joe nice 2 see u #sblchat ! Hope things r well

jwalkup Apr 19 @ 9:50 PM EDT

Not sure you need to. When I am told my kid earned 8/10, do I really need to translate that into words? #sblchat

In reply to @Scott_Schaefer, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

Perednia Apr 19 @ 9:50 PM EDT

Yikes! We have staff in building that can translate. How does your district address this? #sblchat

In reply to @ChristieNold

hhschiaravalli Apr 19 @ 9:50 PM EDT

A5: People like Pink's Drive more than they believe educators. They tend to believe the business world. Fine, there you go. #sblchat

kenoc7 Apr 19 @ 9:50 PM EDT

Because the english language and our use of it only allows clear definition of up to about 7 levels. #sblchat

In reply to @jwalkup, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

jwalkup Apr 19 @ 9:50 PM EDT

But you convert anyway, either numerically or the cumulative results from a rubric. There's no difference. #sblchat

In reply to @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:51 PM EDT

I would love for everyone to read that book. It was a huge game changer for me. #sblchat

In reply to @hhschiaravalli

ChristieNold Apr 19 @ 9:51 PM EDT

Not well... we have far more work to do. With so many languages in our schools can be difficult (refugee resettlement community) #sblchat

In reply to @Perednia

Perednia Apr 19 @ 9:51 PM EDT

Depends on the district. Ours does right now but in my head, that's an in-between step. #sblchat

In reply to @jwalkup, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

MrOzarka Apr 19 @ 9:51 PM EDT

Absolutely. Every T grades differently! What did they lose the 2 points on? Not precise or accurate at all! Gives no info on S und. #sblchat

In reply to @jwalkup, @Scott_Schaefer, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

CITBrian Apr 19 @ 9:51 PM EDT

What conceptual understanding does an 8/10 convey? #sblchat

In reply to @jwalkup, @Scott_Schaefer, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

mctownsley Apr 19 @ 9:51 PM EDT

right on, Chris! #sblchat

In reply to @MrOzarka

CaseyStansifer Apr 19 @ 9:51 PM EDT

Really? Are your teacher evals two levels? #sblchat

In reply to @jwalkup, @DouglasReeves

Perednia Apr 19 @ 9:51 PM EDT

Three cheers for transparency. #sblchat

In reply to @DRich0696

mctownsley Apr 19 @ 9:51 PM EDT

spot on, Brian! #sblchat

In reply to @CITBrian, @jwalkup, @Scott_Schaefer, @RoweRikW

pkpam Apr 19 @ 9:51 PM EDT

A5: The biggest parent concerns I have seen have been based on little to no comm & not really using the system correctly. #sblchat

jwalkup Apr 19 @ 9:51 PM EDT

But I'm not even sure your English translations of a four-point scale are even accurate. #sblchat

In reply to @kenoc7, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

kenmattingly Apr 19 @ 9:51 PM EDT

I wouldn't call them objective either, but I think it makes them as objective as those types of decisions could possibly be. #sblchat

In reply to @kenoc7

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:52 PM EDT

Q6 Another hurdle is the teaching of responsibility. What are some better strategies to use rather than including it in the grade? #sblchat

Diana_Sarao Apr 19 @ 9:52 PM EDT

For ELA, there are different levels of 'getting it.' I may be able to summarize but not synthesize. Does that mean I fail? #sblchat

In reply to @jwalkup, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

BradLatzke Apr 19 @ 9:52 PM EDT

Worth noting. Reflects my experience in international school environment. #sblchat

hhschiaravalli Apr 19 @ 9:50 PM EDT

A5: People like Pink's Drive more than they believe educators. They tend to believe the business world. Fine, there you go. #sblchat

HollyChemTeach Apr 19 @ 9:52 PM EDT

Blessed to have gotten my refresher from @rickwormeli2 today. Everyday I'm closer to accurately reporting what my students know. #sblchat

jwalkup Apr 19 @ 9:52 PM EDT

I was referring to the students' promotion to the next grade level. Sorry for the confusion. #sblchat

In reply to @CaseyStansifer, @DouglasReeves

KatieBudrow Apr 19 @ 9:52 PM EDT

Great point. Happy kids who know what they are learning and why. :) #sblchat

In reply to @mrsprebble84

Perednia Apr 19 @ 9:52 PM EDT

That is hard. Google Translate is not always reliable. Best wishes. #sblchat

In reply to @ChristieNold

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:52 PM EDT

I did that - flipped my syllabus for students and parents that explained SBG so it could be referenced at any time. #sblchat

In reply to @MrOzarka

DouglasReeves Apr 19 @ 9:52 PM EDT

A6: If we want to teach “responsibility” then call it “responsibility” and not “algebra” or “history" #sblchat https://t.co/9td2zVw02X

MrOzarka Apr 19 @ 9:52 PM EDT

Sorry. It's a math term. You need levels to be discrete to describe more about S understanding... Google "discrete". :) #sblchat

In reply to @jwalkup, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

Scott_Schaefer Apr 19 @ 9:52 PM EDT

Yes, IMO. What does that mean? What were the questions like? How deep of thinking was involved? What can your kid do? #sblchat

In reply to @jwalkup, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A6 Accountability stems f/demanding that Ss practice and develop proficiency. Including this inflates or deflates grades. #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A6 - We convey responsibility through communication, perseverance via Extra Practice, and insisting on REDOs until Proficient. #sblchat

TracyMailloux Apr 19 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A5 I'm finding it's not why that's a stumbling block.More that Ps don't always see feedback given,even when Ss get it. #sblchat

jwalkup Apr 19 @ 9:53 PM EDT

Does the student get to move on to the next grade level? If so, that's a 1. If not, that's a 0. #sblchat

In reply to @Diana_Sarao, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

ChristieNold Apr 19 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A5. I have found student's are honest in their reflections about responsibility #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT

A6 - We use encouragement and empowerment to develop intrinsic motivation and responsibility, rather than using grades. #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT

A6 Never leave students alone in their learning. If they attempt to dig a hole, climb in and find a way out together! #sblchat @POWERofICU

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT

RT Q6 Another hurdle is the teaching of responsibility. What are better strategies to use rather than including it in the grade? #sblchat

JamieArmin Apr 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT

It's all, about the feedback or as I call it, feedforward! #sblchat

In reply to @kenmattingly

mctownsley Apr 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT

#sblchat A6) Communicate “responsibility” (work habits) separate from academic standards.

aflatebo Apr 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT

A6: Responsibility can become a common vocabulary word within your school that all teachers try to instill within Ss #sblchat

jwalkup Apr 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT

Highest expectation of teacher was 10. I achieved 80% of the way there. Up to the Ss/Ps to convey that in their own meaning. #sblchat

In reply to @CITBrian, @Scott_Schaefer, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

ChristieNold Apr 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT

For me, four levels can represent Ss who are not there at all, still need practice, at grade level, and beyond #sblchat

In reply to @jwalkup, @Diana_Sarao, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

Diana_Sarao Apr 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT

Progress, not perfection should be rewarded. A pass/fail is really absolute. #sblchat

In reply to @jwalkup, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

mrsprebble84 Apr 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT

Hold a S responsible for assignments through conversation and communication with Ps If I am late w/paperwork I don't lose pets #sblchat

aflatebo Apr 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT

A6: Support Ss in building the intrinsic motivation to become responsible #sblchat

kenoc7 Apr 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT

Yes, 8/10 could be excellent or poor depending on difficulty of ass’t & the concepts/skills. 4/10 is great in hitting in baseball. #sblchat

In reply to @jwalkup, @Scott_Schaefer, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT

Have you read "CultureOfFeedback YET from @plugusin and @mrscienceteach? Great Read! #sblchat

In reply to @JamieArmin, @kenmattingly, @plugusin, @mrscienceteach

jwalkup Apr 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT

Why does a standards-based scheme mandate a 4-point scale? #sblchat

In reply to @mctownsley, @kenoc7, @RoweRikW

mrgarychu Apr 19 @ 9:56 PM EDT

A6 Gary, hs math, finally here. I build a climate w/ the mantra "Share the wealth" in my classes. Individual & peer accountability #sblchat

MrOzarka Apr 19 @ 9:56 PM EDT

Exactly. Not clear. You answered your own question. #sblchat

In reply to @jwalkup, @CITBrian, @Scott_Schaefer, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

Diana_Sarao Apr 19 @ 9:56 PM EDT

Yes. Emphasize their importance by making them their own category. #sblchat

mctownsley Apr 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT

#sblchat A6) Communicate “responsibility” (work habits) separate from academic standards.

TracyMailloux Apr 19 @ 9:56 PM EDT

A6 We have separate section and descriptors for social & learning behaviors. #sblchat

pkpam Apr 19 @ 9:56 PM EDT

My biggest hurdle w/ prnts was with students who have always been hard working & compliant & made As though not proficient in SBG. #sblchat

jwalkup Apr 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT

How can you convey such complexities with only a four-point scale? #sblchat

In reply to @Scott_Schaefer, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

LREjubilee Apr 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT

I love the imagery of this... you can literally be a cheerleader to get them out of the hole #sblchat

In reply to @garnet_hillman, @POWERofICU

CITBrian Apr 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT

If a T is leaving this up to Ps and Ss, I would argue they haven't done their job. #sblchat

In reply to @jwalkup, @Scott_Schaefer, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

JamieArmin Apr 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT

Not yet. Thx, will check it out Rik! #sblchat

In reply to @RoweRikW, @kenmattingly, @plugusin, @mrscienceteach

DRich0696 Apr 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT

I'm field testing our new work habits tool this year - rolling it out full secondary level 2nd semester of 17-18. #sblchat

In reply to @mctownsley

DouglasReeves Apr 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT

@pkpam Exactly right - “schoolmanship” is not the same as proficiency - it’s playing the game. #sblchat https://t.co/9td2zVw02X

MrOzarka Apr 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT

A6-Relationships, relationships, relationships... Mentoring students and letting them know you care goes a long way... #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT

RT Q6 Another hurdle is the teaching of responsibility. What are better strategies to use rather than including it in the grade? #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT

Huge thanks to @garnet_hillman for tonight's insightful questions to get us closer to relevant learning with engagement. #sblchat

DrMathena Apr 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT

A6: Empower Ss to take responsibility, student-created rubrics, Ss choice in assignments, positive feedback, compliment work ethic. #sblchat

AggieSalterITS Apr 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT

A6 commitment to learning community global collaboration #sblchat ss love global audience

In reply to @garnet_hillman

tom_shields Apr 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT

A6-Those are formative behaviors to have SS identify that may have contributed or hindered to getting it. #sblchat

BenvengaJoe Apr 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT

Thanks, on spring break so I can't complain! Same to you, and thx for the tweet. Enjoying reading the responses from #sblchat

In reply to @AggieSalterITS

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT

John, thank you for sharing in our learning! #sblchat

In reply to @JohnSchlender, @garnet_hillman

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT

Thanks everyone for a great chat! See you next week. #sblchat

kenoc7 Apr 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT

A6 Clearly identify responsible behaviours, teach them and give feedback. Compliance is not responsibility. #sblchat

bravesearth Apr 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT

The best quote I had by a student was that "in chemistry, you have to know what's going on" #sblchat

In reply to @pkpam

Dawn_Kilmer Apr 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT

A6 agree Matt. If resp. is code for handing assignments in on time not point- kids want to grow and learn and respect the FB #sblchat

mctownsley Apr 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT

#sblchat A6) Communicate “responsibility” (work habits) separate from academic standards.

Scott_Schaefer Apr 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT

It is up to the assessor to convey the meaning of symbols. Is it up to you to decide what a Prime cut of steak is, or the USDA? #sblchat

In reply to @jwalkup, @CITBrian, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

hhschiaravalli Apr 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT

A6: I tend to think relationship & relevance = the first place to look. "I" as a matter of last resort...more accurate than "E" #sblchat

jwalkup Apr 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT

If a student is at grade level, don't they still need practice? #sblchat

In reply to @ChristieNold, @Diana_Sarao, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

mctownsley Apr 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT

Plenty of research suggesting grading practices in the past century send mixed signals https://t.co/LhxvOrJWMU #sblchat

garnet_hillman - Moderator Apr 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT

Let's all thank @RoweRikW for facilitating this great discussion so we can all learn together! #sblchat

Diana_Sarao Apr 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT

Thanks for pushing my thinking! #sblchat

RoweRikW Apr 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT

Huge thanks to @garnet_hillman for tonight's insightful questions to get us closer to relevant learning with engagement. #sblchat

jgraf36 Apr 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT

Was somewhat engaged in SBL Chat tonight but was amazed to see the capacity and thoughtfulness of all involved! Have a great night! #sblchat

KatieBudrow Apr 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT

Thanks for another great one, #sblchat! Huge thanks to the amazing @garnet_hillman and awesome @RoweRikW for moderating!!

BradLatzke Apr 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT

Thanks @garnet_hillman and @RoweRikW for leading #sblchat tonight.

CITBrian Apr 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT

If, in the end, the S has no idea what success means and whether they've achieved it, that teacher should be on probation #sblchat

In reply to @jwalkup, @Scott_Schaefer, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

AggieSalterITS Apr 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT

Amazing chat as always thank u #sblchat @kenoc7 @RoweRikW @garnet_hillman thanks 4 the uplift !

POWERofICU Apr 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT

A6) Teachers are not highly qualified nor required to teach responsibility. #sblchat

MrOzarka Apr 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT

Here's an exercise for you. Create a 4-point rubric. You'll understand why 4 points are used. Learn by doing. #sblchat @CoachLesterBHS

In reply to @jwalkup, @mctownsley, @kenoc7, @RoweRikW, @CoachLesterBHS

jwalkup Apr 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT

Then why are you sarcastically insinuating that I consider SBG hooey simply b/c I'm not entranced by the 4-point scale? #sblchat

In reply to @mctownsley, @kenoc7, @RoweRikW

AaronSBlackwel1 Apr 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT

Thanks again, @garnet_hillman and @RoweRikW. Great questions tonight. #sblchat

mrsprebble84 Apr 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT

Thanks @garnet_hillman and @RoweRikW a lot of takeaway for when I start SBL next year #sblchat

kirk_humphreys Apr 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT

A6: One can still report on behavioral aspects. Just don't include it with the grade. #sblchat

DRich0696 Apr 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT

Same! #sblchat

KatieBudrow Apr 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT

Thanks for another great one, #sblchat! Huge thanks to the amazing @garnet_hillman and awesome @RoweRikW for moderating!!

ChristieNold Apr 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT

If they would like to go beyond grade level, yes. That is what the last category represents. #sblchat

In reply to @jwalkup, @Diana_Sarao, @mctownsley, @RoweRikW

hhschiaravalli Apr 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT

Thanks @garnet_hillman and @RoweRikW for another great #sblchat!