#OhEdChat Archive

#OHEdChat was started by an ad hoc group of Ohio educators and other interested people. For information and updates about the chat, visit https://ohedchat.wordpress.com/

Wednesday November 28, 2018
9:00 PM EST

  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Welcome to #ohedchat. Please share your name, where you are from, and favorite holiday song.
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Good evening #ohedchat. I am Tyler, hs admin from @hs_woods. Favorite holiday song is feliz navidad. #warriorpride
  • teacheroftinyh2 Nov 28 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Brandy Seydler Columbus Ohio Santa Baby #ohedchat #osussmce
    In reply to @tyarnold18
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:02 PM EST
    #ohedchat will be in a Q1, Q2 with responses A1, A2, etc.
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Don't forget to include the hashtag #ohedchat so everyone can follow along.
  • AlyseConsiglio Nov 28 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Alyse, NE Ohio. My favorite holiday song is Sleigh Ride and my least favorite is Baby It's Cold Outside because it's creepy (but I still sing along) #ohedchat
  • Max73294040 Nov 28 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Hey #ohedchat - Max from Pennsylvania, student at @MoravianCollege
    In reply to @tyarnold18, @MoravianCollege
  • _SMasters Nov 28 @ 9:04 PM EST
    #ohedchat Simon, SciT from NE OH. carol of the bells is my fav song of the season
  • CreditFlex Nov 28 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Ed Jones, the back Ohio woods. Tonight I’m all about Fum Fum Fum https://t.co/M4fvBROZWO #ohedchat
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:05 PM EST
    If you feel like joining in #ohedchat Is going on now! #BeTheOne
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Question 1 is up #ohedchat
  • MrWellsScience Nov 28 @ 9:06 PM EST
    #ohedchat I'm Jeff from Lancaster High School. Favorite holiday song? I'll Be Home for Christmas
    • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:00 PM EST
      Welcome to #ohedchat. Please share your name, where you are from, and favorite holiday song.
  • roberthoon13 Nov 28 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Robert, teacher at Cuyahoga Falls HS. Favorite song: Silent Night! #ohedchat
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:08 PM EST
    If your looking for a good conversation please join us now at #ohedchat #122edchat
  • AlyseConsiglio Nov 28 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1) at a Catholic School (like mine), social justice is intertwined with all our curriculum. It's important to give students ways to effectively fight for the marginalized and think of the greater good. #OhEdChat
  • Max73294040 Nov 28 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1: depends; schools can be one of our greatest instruments of social justice or unjustified hierarchies. It all depends on the professionals inside - it’s the students first avenue to society as a whole #ohedchat
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Q1: What is the relationship between school and social justice? #ohedchat
  • _SMasters Nov 28 @ 9:10 PM EST
    #ohedchat A1: creating global citizens who are life long learners who are able to aptly access and assess resources and societal trends
  • roberthoon13 Nov 28 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: I believe we have a responsibility to present diverse perspectives to facilitate critical thinking skills to promote social justice. #ohedchat
  • teacheroftinyh2 Nov 28 @ 9:11 PM EST
    #ohedchat A:1- I believe schools are raising young members in society to think critically about social issues and how to support their opinions. I think schools have a major impact on social justice. #osussmce
  • MrWellsScience Nov 28 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1: School & social justice should reflect each other. The purpose of school should be to prepare young people to function well in society, so justice in both school and socially should mirror each other #ohedchat
  • MrGartin Nov 28 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Justin joining late from Gahanna. Not sure if this counts, but I can't get enough of the Home Alone theme this time of year #ohedchat
  • CreditFlex Nov 28 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1 So, tossing this out: social justice should not overcome original justice. Ie laws still matter. Schools could help teach that. #ohedchat
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: as state we can learn and help right social injustices we see in the world. But our system must evolve so that equity is built for our marginalized populations who are feeling the burden of social injustice. #ohedchat
  • _SMasters Nov 28 @ 9:13 PM EST
    #OhEdChat agreed.
    In reply to @AlyseConsiglio
  • MrGartin Nov 28 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1: School and social justice are intertwined because schools are a microcosm of the "real world." Social justice needs to be modeled in schools in order for it to be accepted outside of it #ohedchat
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:14 PM EST
    ***Q2 is coming up in one minute! #ohedchat
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Q2 is up #ohedchat!
  • Max73294040 Nov 28 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Shouldn’t we be considering social justice a part of original justice? I mean, the exclusion of social justice from de facto justice was and is the issue to start with #ohedchat
    In reply to @CreditFlex
  • Elizabe79690618 Nov 28 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1: It is our responsibilty to teach children about previous injustices and prepare them for the future with an understanding of social justice #ohedchat
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:16 PM EST
    a2: I believe that social issues should be brought into the classroom so that students have a safe place to share views and grow from others perspectives. I believe that it must be done in a manner and an environment that is built on respect, boundaries, & expectations. #ohedchat
  • roberthoon13 Nov 28 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A2: we live in a globalized world in the most diverse country. It should be our responsibility to present and educate on these cultures to promote globalized citizens of the future. #ohedchat
  • AlyseConsiglio Nov 28 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Some schools. The HS I attended was a bubble. VAST majority white, middle-class, protestant, 2 parent homes: both with jobs & health insurance. It is no longer quite that homogenous, but it was a culture shock to teach 20 minutes down the road when I graduated college. #ohedchat
    In reply to @MrGartin
  • cj_williams13 Nov 28 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Chris from Columbus joining late! A1: Advocacy! School is our opportunity to live out our social justice convictions each day. Public education can be the catalyst to a just society for every child. #ohedchat
  • _SMasters Nov 28 @ 9:17 PM EST
    #ohedchat A2: bringing cultural issues in via either PBL or via real world options for projects are a great way to bring those cultural issues into the classroom. Again, in an effort to create global citizens, its important to recognize different cultural issues
  • Max73294040 Nov 28 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2: in the humanities at least cultural issues are one of the core parts of a full education. They are, and always will be, a human issue and so can’t be ignored - we have to treach about them and address them head on. #ohedchat
  • Elizabe79690618 Nov 28 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2: Bringing up cultural issues plays a large role in how we teach. We are a diverse country and are becoming moreso as years go on, by raising students who understand, accept, and appreciate this diversity we are preparing them for a brighter future. #ohedchat
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Q2: What role should cultural issues play in ‘the classroom? #ohedchat
  • MrGartin Nov 28 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2: social issues should be at the forefront of class if the goal is educating good citizens, but often standards seem to get in the way. One of the trickiest parts of a very tricky job is finding a way to join the two on a regular basis #ohedchat
  • cj_williams13 Nov 28 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2: Cultural issues being discussed in school communicates that school is about students’ LIVES. We care and advocate for them beyond the classroom walls. #ohedchat
  • teacheroftinyh2 Nov 28 @ 9:19 PM EST
    #ohedchat A 2: I think the classroom is the best place to discuss different cultures and learn that different is not bad. It is a safe space to break down those stereotypes and create a earning for children to accept all people. #osussmce
  • MrWellsScience Nov 28 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2: Cultural issues should be used as a springboard to make connections with content. For example, my BioMed class had a great conversation recently about the opioid crisis & its effect on health care providers. #ohedchat
  • Max73294040 Nov 28 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Is that a problem with the standards as they exist, or the idea of standards as a whole? #ohedchat
    In reply to @MrGartin
  • cj_williams13 Nov 28 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2: Our awareness of cultural issues and prioritizing social justice increases our ability to teach meaningful, relevant lessons. #ohedchat
  • AlyseConsiglio Nov 28 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2) I hate the term "colorblind". We should recognize cultural differences and celebrate strengths! Every culture has something to offer another...I love that my Spanish teacher includes "culture" as a major portion of her classes. From salsa dancing to ceviche! #OhEdChat
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:23 PM EST
    ***Q3 is coming up in one minute! #ohedchat
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:24 PM EST
    a3: good teachers quit because of the lack of support, lack of respect,better opportunities, etc. Education comes with many pitfalls and w/o the right supports it is easy to see turnover especially early in newer teachers careers. #ohedchat
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Q3 is up #ohedchat!
  • AlyseConsiglio Nov 28 @ 9:24 PM EST
    I would argue it's not the standards... It's the high stakes testing that make you anxious about the standards. #ohedchat
    In reply to @Max73294040, @MrGartin
  • MrGartin Nov 28 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Good point. Every district seems to be growing in diversity in comparison to years gone by, and my school was not that unlike yours. If the social justice curriculum would have been more than a few poems then, I would have been a much better prepared citizen #ohedchat
    In reply to @AlyseConsiglio
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:26 PM EST
    I know we are done some people tonight but this is a strong chat. #ohedchat
  • MrWellsScience Nov 28 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Q3: Burn-out and lack of support are the biggest issues. If you don't feel needed, wanted, or supported, you don't want to stay. #ohedchat
  • Max73294040 Nov 28 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A3: I think this is a kind of a tragedy that faces students and teachers alike: the tragedy of low expectations. Good teachers quit and good students drop out because the world is expected of them, yet there are so many who don’t believe they can deliver #ohedchat
  • MrWellsScience Nov 28 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A3: Burn-out and lack of support are the biggest issues. If you don't feel needed, wanted, or supported, you don't want to stay. #ohedchat
  • teacheroftinyh2 Nov 28 @ 9:27 PM EST
    #ohedchat A 3: It is the demands put on teachers. Our jobs depend 50% on students doing well on a state test and 50% by what our principals think were doing. Plus all the paperwork and the strict standards. #osussmce
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Q3: Why do good teachers quit? #ohedchat
  • Elizabe79690618 Nov 28 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A3: there are so many reasons; lack of support, financial hardship, the intensity of the job. Teaching is the most rewarding yet unrewarding professions, it can be difficult to maintain the passion that existed once it all started #ohedchat
  • _SMasters Nov 28 @ 9:28 PM EST
    #ohedchat A3: agreeing wtih @tyarnold18 , lack of support, autonomy, feeling of inability to balance work and life, education wears people down, without the supports, it can be quick
  • MrGartin Nov 28 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Yes, that’s more what I was going for. I think the kids are more engaged with social justice issues, but it’s tough to address them in a state testing review session #ohedchat
    In reply to @AlyseConsiglio, @Max73294040
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:29 PM EST
    #ohedchat is bringing it tonight. We are few but this is powerful dialogue.
  • AlyseConsiglio Nov 28 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A3) I quit public education because of the high stakes testing. Parochial school has been my saving grace as an educator. It is exhausting to try to attain unrealistic goals that are moving targets that don't 👏 make 👏kids 👏better👏 thinkers👏 #OhEdChat
  • AlyseConsiglio Nov 28 @ 9:30 PM EST
    "more than a few poems" LOVE THAT #ohedchat
    In reply to @MrGartin
  • RLong308 Nov 28 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A1: Robin - IL, Its about school building relationships with Ss & Pps. The social justice piece has to do with restorative practices that help with how we as staff are interacting w/Ss. #ohedchat
  • cj_williams13 Nov 28 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A3: Some reasons why I’ve seen good teachers quit: They are under-resourced to serve their students and requests go unheard, there’s a lack clarity from their administrators/ school staff, or they don’t have a mentor reminding them they’re making a difference. #ohedchat
  • roberthoon13 Nov 28 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A3: Burnout. It’s real folks! It’s also imperative to ensure all teachers have adequate support systems in place a for new and veterans. #ohedchat
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:32 PM EST
    ***Q4 is coming up in one minute! #ohedchat
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:33 PM EST
    a4: education feels institutionalized such as you must learn this to pass this test to prove you know that. Learning feels exploratory and hands on. I imagine of my 6 year old daughter and the way she loves to learn. Questions and hands on exploration. #ohedchat
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Q4 is up #ohedchat!
  • RLong308 Nov 28 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A2: Wow! Just had a mtg about this topic this AM! Ss respond differently. Just like Introverts are different than Extroverts...each culture has its differences. We can celebrate the differences which may help bring us together as a community. #ohedchat
  • roberthoon13 Nov 28 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A4: Education is the machine. Learning is the process. #ohedchat
  • MrGartin Nov 28 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A3: I think it all boils down to underappreciation; that takes it’s form in countless ways though #ohedchat
  • AlyseConsiglio Nov 28 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A4) Education is the prescribed programming. Learning is the magic. You can get numbers out of measuring the education. You get feelings from the learning. #OhEdChat
  • Max73294040 Nov 28 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A4: That’s interesting I’ve always felt the opposite, learning to me is transient and even temporary, something we do passively- education is a process of growth, and it can’t be done alone. In other words, we learn to “do” something but are educated to “be” something #ohedchat
    In reply to @tyarnold18
  • MrWellsScience Nov 28 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A4: Education is done *to* a person. Learning is what a person does for themselves. How many times have we heard of students being "educated" for 12 years yet they have not LEARNED critical information/skills for college or life? #ohedchat
  • teacheroftinyh2 Nov 28 @ 9:36 PM EST
    #ohedchat A 4: learning is an experience. It is a lifelong journey. Education are the skills the government says we need. Raising texting scores so we can compete with countrie like the Netherlands and Japan. #osussmce
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Q4: What is the difference between learning and education? #ohedchat
  • Elizabe79690618 Nov 28 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A4: Just the overall conotation of those words is telling! To me, learning sounds more fluid and long lasting where the word education reminds me of a strict list of requirements that need to be met before you can move on to the next step, almost like it is a chore. #ohedchat
  • AlyseConsiglio Nov 28 @ 9:39 PM EST
    On point!!! #ohedchat
    In reply to @MrWellsScience
  • JMitchellELA Nov 28 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A4 learning seems to involve life lessons & is more holistic than education. It seems to be analogous to levels on Maslow's levels; with education representing lower levels & learning higher up on the hierarchy. #OhEdChat
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:41 PM EST
    ***Q5 is coming up in one minute! #ohedchat
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Q5 is up #ohedchat!
  • _SMasters Nov 28 @ 9:42 PM EST
    #ohedchat Q4: learning is application of knowledge to novel situations and education is the acquisition of knowledge
  • RLong308 Nov 28 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A3: Being an Educator is a Vocation. Its very hard; the testing, the data, the building administration, the Pps, there are many demands on Tts. Making a difference w/Ss & I think when you don’t feel your making a difference anymore...#ohedchat
  • MrGartin Nov 28 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A4: education is systematic, but learning is natural. We spend too much time trying to focus on the system, when we could be embracing the process #ohedchat
  • lhs_ART Nov 28 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Sorry late to the chat. Shannon, Lancaster High School, O Holy Night (trad) and Grown Up Christmas List (cont) #ohedchat
    In reply to @tyarnold18
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:46 PM EST
    Q5: How can we “teach globally” while acting locally? #ohedchat
  • Max73294040 Nov 28 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A5: All actions are local - the impact is global. As long as we are having a profound and meaningful impact on our students then the influence can reverberate. Ultimately it’s about quality, not scope. #OHedchat
  • roberthoon13 Nov 28 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A5: We must educate through a global lens, but continuously relate it to their local (background) knowledge. #ohedchat
  • RLong308 Nov 28 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A4: Learning is what the student receives...Education is what the educator provides. I consider myself an https://t.co/EuYWV8x4G8 Its about #relevance. #ohedchat
  • _SMasters Nov 28 @ 9:48 PM EST
    #ohedchat A5: utilize local resources that impact global issues, like museums, non-profits, also government agencies. Technology is a great tool to utilize in these situations as well
  • JMitchellELA Nov 28 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A5 Acting locally allows our Ss to see their impact in their own backyard. Teaching globally is tantamount to giving our Ss a vision to learn, experience & respect what they don't know. We must teach both perspectives synergistically for Ss to truly benefit #OhEdChat
  • AlyseConsiglio Nov 28 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A5) At my school: Water walk- helping raise money for people who/o access to clean water. Fill rice bags for the hungry in Africa. Local soup kitchen monthly. We bring awareness of global issues and then a way we can locally come together to help!! #weservewesoar #OhEdChat
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:50 PM EST
    ***Q6 is coming up in one minute! #ohedchat
  • MrWellsScience Nov 28 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A5: We need to make sure that we expose our students to as much of the world as possible, while still impressing upon our students the importance of focusing on their own community's needs. #ohedchat
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:51 PM EST
    Q6 is up #ohedchat
  • MrGartin Nov 28 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A5: it’s imp to know what the world is like for our Ss while empowering them to make it what it should be for them. If we take that approach real change can happen #ohedchat
  • AlyseConsiglio Nov 28 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A6) This may be unpopular, but CCP has become a money grab by higher ed. My students take CCP because it's "easier" than our classes. Higher ed less likely to differentiate, use technology, relate to real life. I'd put my money on secondary educators any day. #OhEdChat
  • Max73294040 Nov 28 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A6: this may not answer the question exactly, but what they SHOULD NOT do is reduce expectations because of chronically underprepared students. Instead, outreach and cooperation between HS admins and college must happen more frequently #ohedchat
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:55 PM EST
    Q6: How can colleges work with local school districts to help ensure students are prepared? #ohedchat
  • MrWellsScience Nov 28 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A6: We need to have open lines of communication and common expectations. How/what we teach in high school should translate to college. #ohedchat
  • teacheroftinyh2 Nov 28 @ 9:55 PM EST
    #ohedchat A 6: I think colleges could help send more resources on what it takes for students to be successful in college and how to apply for college. I think high schools should have classes focused on personal finances and study habits. #osussmce
  • OHEducationSupt Nov 28 @ 9:55 PM EST
    Q6: I’ve seen a few examples of where high school Eng teachers get together w/college faculty and talk about writing expectations, and actually look at student work to reach shared understanding of what quality looks like. Both groups emerge with a better understanding. #ohedchat
  • TebnerEbner Nov 28 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Please join us next week as #ohedchat continues its series on supporting new teachers, 9 PM ET on 12.5.18, focusing on celebrations and supports. Invite a new teacher and mentor to join us!
  • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Thank you everyone for joining us at #ohedchat Please take the time to follow some new colleagues!
  • lhs_ART Nov 28 @ 9:59 PM EST
    A1: I believe that “school” obligation is to teach Ss to think critically, so they are able to formulate and articulate educated opinions and platforms regarding social justice issues, rather than jumping on bandwagons or succumbing to perceived peer or authority stance #OhEdChat
  • MrGartin Nov 28 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Study habits are huge. College is a rude awakening to a lot of us who had our hands held through school #ohedchat
    In reply to @teacheroftinyh2
  • RLong308 Nov 28 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Thank you for a great chat! #ohedchat
    • tyarnold18 Nov 28 @ 9:59 PM EST
      Thank you everyone for joining us at #ohedchat Please take the time to follow some new colleagues!