#ELLCHAT Archive
#ELLCHAT is a repository for ideas related to teaching English Language Learners.
Monday March 21, 2016
9:00 PM EDT
MrsMurat
Mar 21 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Ss address haters & trolls:
https://t.co/Ru9BpBE7hm
Would love your feedback! TY!
#k12talent
#colchat
#edvoice
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#kinderchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
#ELLCHAT
.Q1 Please share your name, where you live and what you teach.
MsKimball1
Mar 21 @ 9:01 PM EDT
A1: Shannon, WA state, 1st grade
#ellchat
https://t.co/4wpIsKdtND
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Welcome to
#ELLCHAT
Q1 Please share your name, where you live and what you teach.
SheMacIntyre
Mar 21 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hi. Sheila MacIntyre. I live in Ontario Canada. I teach a multi-level ESL class and also have ELLs in my mainstream classes.
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Ashleigh_Donner
Mar 21 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hello, My Name is Ashleigh, NV, and I'm not teaching yet. I am taking a class about ELL's and this is a requirment.
#EDRL474
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Paridad_US
Mar 21 @ 9:02 PM EDT
A1 Paridad Education Consulting - a group of EL/Bilingual education consultants that work around the US
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:03 PM EDT
I'm Judie Haynes, retired ESL teacher, author and co-moderator of
#ELLCHAT
.
katy_boehm11
Mar 21 @ 9:03 PM EDT
A1-Katy from Illinois. I teach 4th grade and have the ELL cluster.
#ellchat
maggieessig
Mar 21 @ 9:03 PM EDT
A1 Maggie from IL - EL/Bilingual Specialist/Consultant for
@IL_Resource_Ctr
&
@Paridad_US
#ellchat
https://t.co/JRV1THnQBg
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@Ashleigh_Donner
Welcome! We're happy to have you here.
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:04 PM EDT
A1 I’m Karen Nemeth, author/consultant helping early childhood educators work with ELLs/DLLs and cohost of
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/IWsYYGOL9i
Ashleigh_Donner
Mar 21 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
Thank you, Happy to be here.
#ELLCHAT
#EDRL474
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:04 PM EDT
A-1 I'm asking
#ELLCHAT
participants to follow each other. It's a great way to grow your PLN.
gardnerkb1
Mar 21 @ 9:05 PM EDT
A1 - Katie, NC, Kinder ESL Teacher
#ellchat
TheESOLNinja
Mar 21 @ 9:05 PM EDT
A1: Melissa, middle school in MD
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SKGEducator
Mar 21 @ 9:06 PM EDT
A1- Surinder Kaur. Teach at Camden, NJ- HS ESL Science
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DdelaneyDiana
Mar 21 @ 9:06 PM EDT
A1 Hi, my name is Diana and I teach EL Ss in 1st,3rd,4th and 5th in Georgia.
#ellchat
David__Boughton
Mar 21 @ 9:06 PM EDT
David in Toronto, high school
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JeniRelampago
Mar 21 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1 Jen Guyton Title Services in a dual program
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hvisona
Mar 21 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Heidy from BC. K-7 ELL in a French Immersion school
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ysrd40
Mar 21 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Hi, my name is Ysoris Pazymino. I teach 1st grade dual language.
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Q2.Research shows ELLs have few opportunities to engage in meaningful talk in school. Is this your experience? Why does it happen?
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easkelton
Mar 21 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 Beth from Colorado- ELL consultant
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judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A2 Yes- Even activities that promote speaking don’t allow for sustentative conversations.
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TheESOLNinja
Mar 21 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A2: Yes! Newer ELLs fear ridicule from their peers. Long-term ELLs are good at being invisible
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judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A2 Time available to ELLs for speaking in the classroom is limited. Emphasis on 1 word answers.
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katy_boehm11
Mar 21 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A2: Ss are given a lot of opportunities for meaningful conversations through ELA lessons Ts in the district helped create
#ellchat
Paridad_US
Mar 21 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A2 Most classroom discussion is monologic & controlled by the T. Sustained dialogue between Ss and T & Ss is not common enough
#ellchat
abealarcon
Mar 21 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Buenas noches from NYC! I am a VP in a gr 1-3 school. Glad to be here tonight.
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hvisona
Mar 21 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A3 oral skills are not emphasized as much when evaluating Ss, in my experience.
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easkelton
Mar 21 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A2 shadowing tool helps chart speaking. Generally less than a few minutes/class
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Ashleigh_Donner
Mar 21 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2 Yes. From what I've seen many ELL do not like to engage in conversation at all, let alone meaningful ones.
#EDRL474
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judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A-2 That's been my experience too.
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/ktUDgxBxmK
TheESOLNinja
Mar 21 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A2: Yes! Newer ELLs fear ridicule from their peers. Long-term ELLs are good at being invisible
#ellchat
katy_boehm11
Mar 21 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2 cont: It is easier to allow 1 student to answer, but more meaningful for Ss to talk to a partner-more conversations happening
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KrohnESL
Mar 21 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1- Hi! I'm Julie Krohn, a district level coordinator in Burnsville Mn
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JeniRelampago
Mar 21 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2 Yes! We need to have structures in place to support ELs in conversation
#ellchat
Ashleigh_Donner
Mar 21 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
I agree with your statement about the one word emphasis. There is so little time in the class for more.
#EDRL474
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A-2 Tchrs need to avoid oral lang activities that are too shallow. ELLs need real reasons to speak.
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maggieessig
Mar 21 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@Ashleigh_Donner
I think ELs want to & like to engage in conversation but they don't necessarily have the tools to do so yet
#ellchat
SheMacIntyre
Mar 21 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Q2 Meaningful talk is difficult for our Sec ELLs. Too much time is spent decoding text. Difficult to make meaning or connections.
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gardnerkb1
Mar 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2 - I try to create a welcoming, safe environment where students feel comfortable sharing
#ellchat
hvisona
Mar 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2 PS institutions rarely admit students based on oral skills so Ts spend more time on rdg and wrtg
#ELLchat
easkelton
Mar 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@JeniRelampago
Cooperative learning structures can really increase speaking opportunities
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Please remember to answer Q2 with A2 so that we're all on the same track.
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2 Research showing oral language barely happening in
#earlyed
classrooms, DLLs
https://t.co/XieBTWZ1Dn
#ELLCHAT
Fits what I see :(
HSeslteacher
Mar 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2- Ts should structure activities for ELLs to speak providing supports as needed like chance to practice with partner 1st.
#ELLChat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A-2 I agree but unless CL is structured, ELLs may not be able to talk much.
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/HnoRKNnunu
easkelton
Mar 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@JeniRelampago
Cooperative learning structures can really increase speaking opportunities
#ellchat
gardnerkb1
Mar 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 - Center activities allow for students to collaborate and practice oral speaking skills thru academic and social conversations
#ellchat
abealarcon
Mar 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Lots of convos happen in playground, cafeteria, bus, etc. They are very real in these settings. Just look and listen to ELLs.
#ellchat
maggieessig
Mar 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 I think there's a misconception out there that ELs will just acquire oral lang skills w/o support but Ss need OL instruction
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SheMacIntyre
Mar 21 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 oops. I use current events articles to provoke meaningful talk. Newsela's leveled texts are helpful in my ESL class.
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Ixy_pixy
Mar 21 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Higher Ed ESL teacher here, Los Angeles Cali
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judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@maggieessig
This leads us to our next question
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DdelaneyDiana
Mar 21 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 Depends on the teacher and level of ELL Ss. Teachers need to give opportunities for meaningful discussions
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KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 Susan B. Neuman observed K tchrs: they introduced up to 8 tier 2 words/day, then NEVER USED THEM AGAIN!
https://t.co/Ezq2zTMy4f
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SheMacIntyre
Mar 21 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 Four corner activities are also great to support meaningful talk.
#ellchat
Ashleigh_Donner
Mar 21 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@maggieessig
I agree that they may not have the tools to do so. We need to give them options to help them.
#EDRL474
#ELLCHAT
David__Boughton
Mar 21 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 In other classes, Ts see chatting as waste of time. Maybe that affects ELL teachers?
#ellchat
KrohnESL
Mar 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@KarenNemethEdM
#ellchat
awful! Language learning is a social construct.
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Q3.What strategies do you employ to help ELLs develop oral language for academic purposes?
#ELLCHAT
easkelton
Mar 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
structure, purpose, and scaffolds are key to successful interactions for ELLs
#ellchat
Ixy_pixy
Mar 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Higher Ed ESL teacher-- Los Angeles Cali
#ellchat
gardnerkb1
Mar 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@maggieessig
@Ashleigh_Donner
I agree, allow Ss to answer in native lang. then model how to say it in English and have them repeat
#ellchat
Ixy_pixy
Mar 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A1. Higher Ed ESL teacher, Los Angeles Cali
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hvisona
Mar 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@abealarcon
we also need to encourage Ss to use academic language in an acad. setting. See BICS vs CALP
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2 I talked to principal who started observing for this in preK and realized how little child talk heard in bilingual classrooms
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eslmonica
Mar 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
Monica Schnee mentor texts visual literacy accountable talk provide meaningful conversations true communicative goal
#ellchat
David__Boughton
Mar 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@abealarcon
which is why Ts need to promote cross-cultural socialization
#ellchat
SheMacIntyre
Mar 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@DdelaneyDiana
agree! Texts (narratives or other) that explore social justice issues are most helpful.
#ellchat
MsKimball1
Mar 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2: Accountable talk stems w/ my whole class (95% ELLs)this helps but am trying add more opportunities.
#ellchat
https://t.co/xfkMkWQtFE
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Q2.Research shows ELLs have few opportunities to engage in meaningful talk in school. Is this your experience? Why does it happen?
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@ysrd40
Be sure to use
#ELLCHAT
so that everyone can see your tweets.
katy_boehm11
Mar 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A3-Provide sentence starters, give Ss the opportunity to practice authenticly, explicitly teaching how to turn ?s into statements
#ellchat
Ashleigh_Donner
Mar 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@gardnerkb1
@maggieessig
yes and there are other ways like show pictures if it's appropriate for the level
#EDRL474
#ELLchat
abealarcon
Mar 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@maggieessig
Agree but do why do many Ts opt not to develop OL? Is rdg, math & wrtg easier? Easier to assess?
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
a3 So I push teachers to let go of quantity of words and focus on quality/depth of learning really useful academic vocab for ELLs
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Ixy_pixy
Mar 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2. I have to create scenarios for meaningful exchange, if not, it doesn't happen as often.
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easkelton
Mar 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A3 Zwiers book "Academic Conversations" great resource for strategies to develop oral lang. for acad. purposes
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HSeslteacher
Mar 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A3- Front loading vocab & grammar structures is one strategy.
#ELLChat
abealarcon
Mar 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@hvisona
Agree totally but many need to feel welcome. T is major factor in creating climate for convos.
#ellchat
eslmonica
Mar 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@Ashleigh_Donner
A2 Understanding Language has a protocol to foster OLD have used it w/K successfully
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maggieessig
Mar 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A3 I have a Symbaloo of otherwise ordinary tech resources that I like to remix into OL activities!
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A3 - Scaffold what academic conversations should look like (i.e. during brainstorming activities)
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KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A3 Sentence starters are good, but tchrs can embed that by linking content from lesson to lesson - using similar sentences
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Ashleigh_Donner
Mar 21 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A3 Use think pair share method. It engages students and has them communicate orally with a partner and to a group.
#ELLCHAT
#EDRL474
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A-3 Resource How to Start Academic Conversations
https://t.co/ggnC6XUcIU
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A3 Hard to say this, but mostly it seems least confident, least prepared tchrs resort to maintaining control by talking too much
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KrohnESL
Mar 21 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A3 - plan for dialogue, add supports, start in small groups - much depends on tchr
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judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A3 Resource: Key Strategies for Developing Oral Language
https://t.co/JWONZFHvIF
#ELLCHAT
easkelton
Mar 21 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
great summary of book "Academic Conversations"
#ELLCHAT
HSeslteacher
Mar 21 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@easkelton
I wrote a review of this book recently.
https://t.co/wknva7rCqz
#ELLChat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A3 takes a lot of confidence to step back and trust your materials and lessons to support quality student talk, specially ELLs
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ChristineDahnke
Mar 21 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Hello! Just joining ... ESOL district admin, Jacksonville FL
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ESLKatieB
Mar 21 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Katie B., NC 1st grade ESL teacher. A3 I've worked with teachers on rewording answers for Ss. Let them respond but rephrase
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eslmonica
Mar 21 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
A3 sentence stems frames modeling turn&talk partner talk report what yr partner said
#ellchat
maggieessig
Mar 21 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3 in my class, my Ss & I created an Academic Conversation wall to support OL
#ellchat
https://t.co/Sk3ndJMJQj
easkelton
Mar 21 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@HSeslteacher
wow--when do you find time to review a book??
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Ixy_pixy
Mar 21 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3 structure projects where they have a real audience so they take pride in refining their academic work.
#ellchat
https://t.co/JzWpIOoJye
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Q3.What strategies do you employ to help ELLs develop oral language for academic purposes?
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3 - Having Ss read something that they wrote is not a conversation. Adapt activities to include authentic talk.
#ELLCHAT
katy_boehm11
Mar 21 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@Ashleigh_Donner
Allowing that think time encourages more meaningful oral language too!
#ellchat
hvisona
Mar 21 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3, S writes in a paragraph frame, practise using an app which creates a meme and records voice. S can playback
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SheMacIntyre
Mar 21 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 We look at transitions used in diff text structures. I also model and we practice speaking using these structures.
#ellchat
gardnerkb1
Mar 21 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 - Sentence starters, anchor charts with visuals, 4 corners, sage & scribe, think pair share, PBL's, role play
#ellchat
eslmonica
Mar 21 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@easkelton
@judiehaynes
Understanding Lang has free MOOC courses on OLD took two lots of work but worth it
#ellchat
easkelton
Mar 21 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
modeling expectations w/higher level student helps, too.
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 Hooray for COGNATES!
https://t.co/iqgWINERuA
via
@ColorinColorado
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3 - I think modeling is a very impt. strategy.
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/a7PFTm3odZ
easkelton
Mar 21 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
modeling expectations w/higher level student helps, too.
#ELLCHAT
TheESOLNinja
Mar 21 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3: Scaffolding the material is the first step. Many ELLs don't talk because they don't understand the topic or expectations
#ellchat
easkelton
Mar 21 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@eslmonica
@judiehaynes
agreed! I audited the courses and gained lots!
#ellchat
HSeslteacher
Mar 21 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@maggieessig
What's the link to your Symbaloo? Are you willing to share it?
#ellchat
Paridad_US
Mar 21 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3 We love "Academic Lang in Diverse Classrooms" by Gottlieb & Ernst-Slavit
#ellchat
https://t.co/xRXkZRsZ8c
JeniRelampago
Mar 21 @ 9:28 PM EDT
#Ellchat
A3 Great resource for sentence stems compatible with any theme
https://t.co/c95fWIzu9Q
hvisona
Mar 21 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Ss prepare a book talk and presents to other ELLs and Q/A follows
#ellchat
ESLKatieB
Mar 21 @ 9:28 PM EDT
PBLs are great! Assign roles. I will assign some to a task with an oral part just to get oral practice. Common goals work
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3 If you say a word in Spanish, child replies w/ paragraph you don’t understand, does it count as oral language? Relax!
#ELLCHAT
hvisona
Mar 21 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3 Games such as Taboo and Apples to Apples are fun for older, intermediate level ELLs.
#ellchat
abealarcon
Mar 21 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3: Problem solving scenarios, realia, primary sources, cultural objects and events all are great ways to promote communication.
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3 - There are lots of ideas and new people on
#ELLCHAT
tonight. Please follow each other!
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3 - There are lots of ideas and new people on
#ELLCHAT
tonight. Please follow each other!
#ELLCHAT
ChristineDahnke
Mar 21 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3: Has anyone worked to create MPIs to scaffold for ELP levels?
#ELLCHAT
easkelton
Mar 21 @ 9:30 PM EDT
when coding S's during shadowing, I 'code' this as 'reading' not 'speaking'
#ellchat
https://t.co/ktxIyqveuU
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3 - Having Ss read something that they wrote is not a conversation. Adapt activities to include authentic talk.
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
A3 so, supporting oral language might start with planning activities Ss really love and want to discuss!
#ELLCHAT
Ashleigh_Donner
Mar 21 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@hvisona
I really like these ideas
#EDRL474
#ELLCHAT
abealarcon
Mar 21 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@KarenNemethEdM
What is the goal? in L1 or L2?
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A4 What activities do you use to get students to expand on the oral language production?
#ELLCHAT
SheMacIntyre
Mar 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3 thanks. Will check this out. Helping ELLs understand how English functions and in what forms is key.
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/SWk967DinH
JeniRelampago
Mar 21 @ 9:28 PM EDT
#Ellchat
A3 Great resource for sentence stems compatible with any theme
https://t.co/c95fWIzu9Q
ritaplatt
Mar 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
#Ellchat
can't be here 2night but wanted 2 share: FREE classes from Hakuta & Zwiers (MOOC) target ELD & are AMAZING!
https://t.co/qAGG28lNwJ
KrohnESL
Mar 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@ChristineDahnke
working on that in our district - should be done after standards are unpacked
#ellchat
TLDeussen
Mar 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Growing up
#bilingual
helps children see other people's point of view.
https://t.co/dW7eqQoe0r
#ELL
#ellchat
@npratc
ChristineDahnke
Mar 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3: communication increases when kids see relevance and how topics relates to them
#ELLCHAT
DdelaneyDiana
Mar 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@easkelton
A2 Yes great ideas from Stanford, I also video tape my Ss having discussion w/ partner then evaluate together .
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A4 Using prompts to increase discussion of topic: i.e. what do you mean by….what makes you think that..
#ELLCHAT
maggieessig
Mar 21 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Here's a link to the symbaloo & how I use each tool to elicit OL
https://t.co/KFSzD81hop
#ellchat
https://t.co/xK5eQ05KGz
HSeslteacher
Mar 21 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@maggieessig
What's the link to your Symbaloo? Are you willing to share it?
#ellchat
Ashleigh_Donner
Mar 21 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@ChristineDahnke
Yes! When someone is interested in a topic they usually have more to say about it.
#EDRL474
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Please be sure to use A-4 to answer Q-4 so we know what question your answering.
#ELLCHAT
easkelton
Mar 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@ChristineDahnke
WIDA MPIs can be 'transformed' for any content or level. 2012 WIDA standards have lots of examples.
#ellchat
globalQZ
Mar 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
we published student work in a nationwide classroom publication. it gives students incredible empowerment!
#ELLchat
https://t.co/jAlUBcgYqQ
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3 - Having Ss read something that they wrote is not a conversation. Adapt activities to include authentic talk.
#ELLCHAT
abealarcon
Mar 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
I can't see the questions. Are you posting them?
#ellchat
JeniRelampago
Mar 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@ChristineDahnke
A district in New Jersey has created something aligned with CCSS, I will look for the link
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Yes! Exactly. Just need to make sure that students have authentic opportunities to talk.
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/ANQWUBNDCv
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
A3 so, supporting oral language might start with planning activities Ss really love and want to discuss!
#ELLCHAT
katy_boehm11
Mar 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A4:
#ellchat
https://t.co/bj2J1HlgsD
katy_boehm11
Mar 21 @ 12:23 PM EDT
Ss interviewing & taking the other's perspective to make a Tellagami about our field trip.
#d83spartans
#ELLEdTech
https://t.co/0NXFteEVCv
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A3 In
#preK
we ask tchrs to base learning/conversation on child interests, but many assume they KNOW and don’t ask the child :(
#ELLCHAT
DdelaneyDiana
Mar 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A3 Sentence frames and recording my Ss help.
#ellchat
cschachter
Mar 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
I've been impressed lately with
https://t.co/DWczbXErdy
#ellchat
abealarcon
Mar 21 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@maggieessig
This is great! Muchas gracias!
#ellchat
Ixy_pixy
Mar 21 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A4 Skits work w my students. Scenarios to act out r often welcomed - I "catch" Ss using vocab words later!
#ellchat
https://t.co/8O5O5di0dw
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A4 What activities do you use to get students to expand on the oral language production?
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@abealarcon
Yes- are you on the
#ELLCHAT
stream. Q4 What activities do you use to get students to expand on the oral language production?
Ashleigh_Donner
Mar 21 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@KarenNemethEdM
Assuming is never good. :(
#edrl474
#ELLCHAT
Paridad_US
Mar 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4 Varied OL activities! You're not going to elicit continued OL if you're using old or inauthentic activities or prompts
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A3 In
#preK
, goal should be oral language in whatever language child wants to use until ready to transfer
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/38uavataeo
abealarcon
Mar 21 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@KarenNemethEdM
What is the goal? in L1 or L2?
#ellchat
cschachter
Mar 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A1 Carole Devey Schachter, Bethlehem, PA ESOL Teacher K-5 and K-12 Evaluator
#ellchat
katy_boehm11
Mar 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4-I've been more strategic about encouraging Ss to use academic lang-TPR, anchor charts, videos
#ellchat
abealarcon
Mar 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
Got it. Now I can see. Gracias!
#ellchat
gardnerkb1
Mar 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
yes, "can you tell me more...."
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A-4 Excellent activity!
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/J9USpZMZRJ
katy_boehm11
Mar 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A4:
#ellchat
https://t.co/bj2J1HlgsD
katy_boehm11
Mar 21 @ 12:23 PM EDT
Ss interviewing & taking the other's perspective to make a Tellagami about our field trip.
#d83spartans
#ELLEdTech
https://t.co/0NXFteEVCv
Ashleigh_Donner
Mar 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4 Im not a teacher yet, so I can't answer what I currently do, but I like seeing other peoples ideas
#EDRL474
#ELLCHAT
David__Boughton
Mar 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Watching this and enjoying the connection to tonight's
#ellchat
-- 10 ways to have a better conversation
https://t.co/T0srwYKSWs
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
a4 in
#earlyed
, key is to get tchrs to really understand and use open ended questions to draw out oral lang - not easy w/ ELLs
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A-4 - Model how to support ideas with examples from other texts, one’s own life. etc.
#ELLCHAT
SheMacIntyre
Mar 21 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4 Lucy West Talk Moves. These have become part of my repertoire.
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/MSLKJUqUJl
katy_boehm11
Mar 21 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4-I also give my Ss a lot more time to talk through math probs. Ss must agree with their partners and every1 is prepared to share
#ellchat
TheESOLNinja
Mar 21 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4: I prompt them by asking why, telling Ss to convince me or asking Ss to add on to one another's comments
#ellchat
abealarcon
Mar 21 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@KarenNemethEdM
Agree totally! Ts need to be flexible and accept whatever langauge S decides to speak.
#studentchoice
#studentvocie
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@gardnerkb1
Yes if you read articles by Zweirs, your find a whole list of responses to encourage elaboration.
#ELLCHAT
abealarcon
Mar 21 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@KarenNemethEdM
Lots of Ts need examples and trng. Can't do what you don't know.
#ellchat
#theneedforPD
ESLKatieB
Mar 21 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A4 fun activity..give kids a picture to describe to a small group to draw. Let them see what happens when they give more details.
#ELLCHAT
maggieessig
Mar 21 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A4 I had a mystery OL prompt box. Ss would pick a random prompt & they would discuss. I had to stay silent & let the talk unfold!
#ellchat
cschachter
Mar 21 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A4 We have been using TwistedWave. The kids love recording, listening, then fixing the recording. They share w/me via GoogleDrive
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A-4 Have Ss build on challenging another’s idea: Do you agree? Can you add to this idea? Encourages ELLs to listen to each other
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A4 When tchrs say “we always do the bunny project this time of year” it’s not about what motivates the students you have this year!
#ELLCHAT
gardnerkb1
Mar 21 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
I like to ask my Ss "Can you tell me more...?" To expand on simple sentences or one word answers
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Q5. Do you think developing stronger oral language skills in ELLs increases their learning in other areas? How?
#ELLCHAT
Ashleigh_Donner
Mar 21 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@maggieessig
I like this idea it really encourages conversation and it isn't planned conversation. it's authentic
#EDRL474
#ELLCHAT
DdelaneyDiana
Mar 21 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A4 My Ss use sketches and models (math) to help them explain or describe
#ellchat
ChristineDahnke
Mar 21 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A4: I love autobiography driven assignments. Tell me more about YOU
#ELLCHAT
Paridad_US
Mar 21 @ 9:42 PM EDT
The NY Times Learning Channel has a similar weekly activity for older Ss
https://t.co/VbpDINUBPU
#ellchat
https://t.co/BWnGSUgHIA
ESLKatieB
Mar 21 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A4 fun activity..give kids a picture to describe to a small group to draw. Let them see what happens when they give more details.
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A4 - Forgot to mention using visuals to help ELLs with oral language.
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/AnT1OqGn3d
DdelaneyDiana
Mar 21 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A4 My Ss use sketches and models (math) to help them explain or describe
#ellchat
MrsOatesClass
Mar 21 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
Just joining in. In math I use
@lensoo
and have Ss explain how they solve a problem. Removes anxiety.
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A4 Plan connections from 1 activity to the next to build layers of vocab - Spring planting project? find related song, story, etc.
#ELLCHAT
maggieessig
Mar 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A4 Ss & I practiced how to disagree/elaborate/clarify during disc. Having that lang was powerful for them
#ellchat
https://t.co/DgGQjc18Op
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A-4 Have Ss build on challenging another’s idea: Do you agree? Can you add to this idea? Encourages ELLs to listen to each other
#ELLCHAT
DdelaneyDiana
Mar 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5 Yes!! I also hope they become more confident and speak up in their classroom.
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Please remember to use A5 to answer Q5.
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
That’s my job, Abe! :)
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/JHg9NQNjjF
abealarcon
Mar 21 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@KarenNemethEdM
Lots of Ts need examples and trng. Can't do what you don't know.
#ellchat
#theneedforPD
abealarcon
Mar 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
@maggieessig
I've seen this in my 1st gr classrooms and Ss luv it!
#ellchat
Ashleigh_Donner
Mar 21 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5 Yes, because then there is less stress on making mistakes when it comes to speaking, they can relax and just learn.
#EDRL474
#ELLCHAT
JeniRelampago
Mar 21 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5 For sure! Direct link to writing
#ellchat
easkelton
Mar 21 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5 Can we understand a concept we don't have the language for? How does language support concept development?
#ELLCHAT
TwitLiveEvents
Mar 21 @ 9:45 PM EDT
March 21, 2016 at 10:00PM Twitter Chat -
#ellchat
#TwitterChat
Visit
https://t.co/52cTeoQ3Zw
for more events.
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5 -Oral Language Development and ELLs : Challenges & Solutions.
https://t.co/AHhAklZulj
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A4 Ideally - teachers should learn to say “Can you tell me more…” in each child’s home language!
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/lIVQpLr04B
gardnerkb1
Mar 21 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
I like to ask my Ss "Can you tell me more...?" To expand on simple sentences or one word answers
#ellchat
Ashleigh_Donner
Mar 21 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5 Students can then focus on one aspect of learning, rather the task at hand like math or science and learning English
#EDRL474
#ELLCHAT
MrsGadtke
Mar 21 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5 Visuals +Voice. Ss that spoke 1 word in English was writing & reading books by May.Tons of oral lang pract w/ visuals in
@Seesaw
#ELLChat
gardnerkb1
Mar 21 @ 9:46 PM EDT
@JeniRelampago
I agree!
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A-5 Resource Oral Language Development in ELLs. Research Findings and Promising Practices
https://t.co/iHDNW5T4SS
#ELLCHAT
KrohnESL
Mar 21 @ 9:46 PM EDT
@maggieessig
that's the hardest part of bldg OL! Ts staying silent!
#ELLCHAT
maggieessig
Mar 21 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5 Oral language is often the foundation of the schema Ss use to make sense of other content areas
#ellchat
MrsGadtke
Mar 21 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Love that - "layers of vocab"
#ellchat
https://t.co/COieq5IGHU
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A4 Plan connections from 1 activity to the next to build layers of vocab - Spring planting project? find related song, story, etc.
#ELLCHAT
abealarcon
Mar 21 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5: Of course! ELLs will feel confident and OL skills will transfer readily.
#ellchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5 - I think ELLs have improved vocabulary and writing when they improve their oral language production.
#ELLCHAT
hvisona
Mar 21 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Thanks all! Need to leave the chat!
#ELLchat
ESLKatieB
Mar 21 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5 Yes! Any new words spoken can be used in writing and decoded in reading. We want them to own their words!
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A4 These free videos show great examples of quality oral lang with ELLs/DLLs in
#earlyed
https://t.co/XfcEicJgiw
#ELLCHAT
katy_boehm11
Mar 21 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A5-Yes! All of the language domains are connected. Ss can use OL to help develop ideas for writing and while thinking about reading
#ellchat
MrsGadtke
Mar 21 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
I agree and this was 100% true in my K class last year
#ellchat
abealarcon
Mar 21 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@KarenNemethEdM
I know and will be calling upon you in the near future. Seen you in action and you're very good.
#ellchat
Ashleigh_Donner
Mar 21 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@easkelton
This is a very important ? and the answer is no. We can only understand a concept, if we know the language.
#EDRL474
#ELLCHAT
HSeslteacher
Mar 21 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A5- Yes! I agree with the saying that the one who does the talking is doing the learning. Talking & learning are connected.
#ELLChat
TheESOLNinja
Mar 21 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A5: Encouraging students to talk about concepts helps cement understanding in all classes
#ellchat
easkelton
Mar 21 @ 9:50 PM EDT
@Ashleigh_Donner
I'm not sure, but interested. Can I understand 'precipitation' w/o that word? Sure!
#ellchat
cschachter
Mar 21 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Enjoyed
#ellchat
More ideas and people to follow.
#BASDChallenge
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A3 Using more authentic materials - really real realia! Intrinsic meaning and purpose builds language here
https://t.co/cnkV9Q5dFZ
#ELLCHAT
cathypetreebeck
Mar 21 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Join us in 10 minutes to discuss the teaching of academic vocabulary with
@easkelton
. Use hashtag
#ssdedu
#ellchat
KrohnESL
Mar 21 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@Ashleigh_Donner
@easkelton
#ellchat
reminds me of Inuit words for "snow"
gardnerkb1
Mar 21 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A5 - have Ss "be the teacher", ability to teach others shows they know new content being taught
#ellchat
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A5 caution: just using visuals to reinforce isolated words won’t make them stick - using in different domains, contexts will!
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6- How can we get gen ed colleagues to buy into developing .ELLs' academic oral language.
#ELLCHAT
KrohnESL
Mar 21 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@KarenNemethEdM
esp with abstract words found across content areas - no pic for them!
#ELLCHAT
MrsGadtke
Mar 21 @ 9:55 PM EDT
I also try and avoid clip art or web images when poss. Instead have Ss take photos in context of school
#Ellchat
https://t.co/nfIe5FE2Ac
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A5 caution: just using visuals to reinforce isolated words won’t make them stick - using in different domains, contexts will!
#ELLCHAT
ysrd40
Mar 21 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A5 oral language development is very important for ELL and SSL ACADEMIC success.
#ellchat
HSeslteacher
Mar 21 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6- I think gen ed Ts understand importance of academic lang but need ideas, suggestions for how to help ELLs speak more in class.
#ellchat
DdelaneyDiana
Mar 21 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A4 another good App is
#Wixie
where Ss record themselves with picture. Ss laugh+ have fun listening to themselves.
#ellchat
Ashleigh_Donner
Mar 21 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6 Maybe by explaining to the gen ed teachers why it is so important to strengthen the students oral language
#ELLCHAT
#EDRL474
katy_boehm11
Mar 21 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6-Often gen ed Ts are perceived to not want to incorporate OL. HELP them & give them authentic fun strategies to try with their Ss
#ellchat
KrohnESL
Mar 21 @ 9:57 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
is this Q6?! Or did I miss it?
#ELLCHAT
katy_boehm11
Mar 21 @ 9:57 PM EDT
@HSeslteacher
Exactly! Perhaps co-planning/teaching a lesson to help model
#ELLCHAT
gardnerkb1
Mar 21 @ 9:57 PM EDT
@KarenNemethEdM
you can use google cardboard, virtual field trips, discovery ed. virtual reality.
#ellchat
Ashleigh_Donner
Mar 21 @ 9:57 PM EDT
@HSeslteacher
YES! I know as a future teacher, I am slightly lost when it comes to good ideas of ways to help ELLs
#ELLCHAT
#EDRL474
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:58 PM EDT
@KrohnESL
Q6 - How do we get gen ed teachers to buy into helping develop ELLs academic oral language?
#ELLCHAT
NatashaRRivera
Mar 21 @ 9:58 PM EDT
@HSeslteacher
absolutely!! ELLs don't get enough opportunities to practice their BICS or their CALP.
#ELLchat
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Yes!
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/36KEnZ52Aa
Ashleigh_Donner
Mar 21 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6 Maybe by explaining to the gen ed teachers why it is so important to strengthen the students oral language
#ELLCHAT
#EDRL474
TheESOLNinja
Mar 21 @ 9:59 PM EDT
A6: Assure them that a few minutes of oral lang per lesson won't totally derail the curr that they are anxious to keep up with
#ellchat
katy_boehm11
Mar 21 @ 9:59 PM EDT
@judiehaynes
I think gen ed Ts KNOW the importance. It's the HOW they maybe need the help with.
#ELLCHAT
judiehaynes
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:59 PM EDT
This really works!
#ELLCHAT
https://t.co/79XYveLIXi
katy_boehm11
Mar 21 @ 9:57 PM EDT
@HSeslteacher
Exactly! Perhaps co-planning/teaching a lesson to help model
#ELLCHAT
KarenNemethEdM
- Moderator
Mar 21 @ 9:59 PM EDT
A5 Fast 5 Gamechangers to build language quality for DLLs
https://t.co/eHXHMbZlk0
#ELLCHAT