#games4ed Archive

#games4ed discussions cover ways in which gaming can be used in education. Games mirror the way the human mind was designed to learn. They motivate players to take risks and actions, persevere through failures, set and achieve increasingly difficult goals, and devote attention, time, and effort to acquiring knowledge and skills. All this while the game is tracking the player’s actions and assessing the player’s achievements and skills. Isn’t this what we want from education?

Thursday February 7, 2019
8:00 PM EST

  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Welcome to #games4ed!! Please share your name, location, position, and answer this question: What would you build: snowman, snow angel, or snow fort.
  • Rdene915 Feb 7 @ 8:00 PM EST
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Hi all! Melissa from Nebraska, 11-12 ELA. I'd go with snow fort, BUT I also hate being cold, so it needs to warm up before I build any! #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Welcome, Taylor! Glad to have you here tonight! #games4ed
    In reply to @MissWilgenbusch
  • MarianaGSerrato Feb 7 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Hello everyone. Mariana Garcia Serrato. MS STEM from San Jose, CA. I am inclined to give an alternate answer: sand castle (not much snow here ;)) #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Sand castle is much more up my alley than snow fort! At least weather wise! #games4ed
    In reply to @MarianaGSerrato
  • MrRoughton Feb 7 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Kevin, 7/8 SoCal, history. Trick question, I wouldn't go outside. #games4ed
  • TechWithParson Feb 7 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Hey everyone! I'm Arcadia and I'm a Tech Ed coach from Virginia Beach I also just started teaching a Game Design elective on Monday! I think I'd build a fort. I've made lots of snowmen and angels, but never a fort before! #games4ed
  • MrCarlsonsClass Feb 7 @ 8:02 PM EST
    I’m Will. I teach 5th grade in Michigan. I was a snow bunker guy. Gave me the freedom to throw and move if necessary;) #games4ed
  • SamMoreland8 Feb 7 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Hello I'm Sam Moreland, secondary education student at Coe College. I would build a snow fort! #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Yep, this answer is correct. #games4ed
    In reply to @MrRoughton
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:03 PM EST
    We'll follow the Q1/A1 format for our chat. Here's a preview of tonight's questions...Q1 launches at 7:05! Let's get started! #games4ed
  • MarianaGSerrato Feb 7 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Same. Cold and I do not mix well. #games4ed
    In reply to @mpilakow
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Arcadia is here :) How is the game design class going? Lots of good times the first week? #games4ed
    In reply to @TechWithParson
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Happy Thursday, Will! Good idea with the bunker! #games4ed
    In reply to @MrCarlsonsClass
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Hi Sam! Two Coe College students in the house! Welcome!! What are you studying? #games4ed
    In reply to @SamMoreland8
  • YS_Mr_Good Feb 7 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Hi I'm Oliver and I teach secondary Social Studies in York, PA. I am interesting in hearing how others gamify their classroom, and I would build a snow fort #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Welcome, Oliver!! Should be some good convo tonight! #games4ed
    In reply to @YS_Mr_Good
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Q1: Describe how you use leaderboards in your classroom. Or if you don't, what interests you about this topic? #games4ed
  • MarianaGSerrato Feb 7 @ 8:05 PM EST
    See... several members of the sand castle crew #games4ed
    In reply to @mpilakow, @MrRoughton
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:05 PM EST
    LOL!! #games4ed
    In reply to @TechWithParson, @classcraftgame
  • SamMoreland8 Feb 7 @ 8:06 PM EST
    A1: Being as I am not a teacher yet, I do not use leaderboards but I am interested to learn how others use them because they can be so useful in building confidence in the classroom. #games4ed
  • MrCarlsonsClass Feb 7 @ 8:06 PM EST
    A1- I use the @classcraftgame leaderboard. It’s great in that it gives you the flexibility to show leaders by XP, GP, Level, etc. #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Yeah, I threw this one together last summer.... #games4ed
    In reply to @MarianaGSerrato, @MrRoughton
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:07 PM EST
    They can certainly be inspiring for the competitive students in the class! #games4ed
    In reply to @SamMoreland8
  • MarianaGSerrato Feb 7 @ 8:07 PM EST
    A1: I use my leaderboard to let kiddos know how they are doing. It is my way of communicating beyond the grade and build confidence. #games4ed
  • TechWithParson Feb 7 @ 8:08 PM EST
    A1) I JUST created a leaderboard for the first time. I've been struggling with how to balance characters kids have worked on for 3 years with new kids. I think I've got it and I'm STOKED! @classcraftgame #games4ed
  • mrwilliamsworld Feb 7 @ 8:08 PM EST
    Chris Soc sci HS Answer to intro #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:09 PM EST
    A1: I use Classcraft, mainly for non-grade activities. Often we'll do random popsicle stick draws for "completion" assignments--it's hard for Ss to resist the chance to get the high XP sticks! #games4ed
  • MrRoughton Feb 7 @ 8:09 PM EST
    A1) Mostly for Xp tracking on our class page. I do post a top 10 to the Wall of Champions each grading period. #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:09 PM EST
    YES! Love it! #games4ed
    In reply to @mrwilliamsworld
  • YS_Mr_Good Feb 7 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1: I do not currently use leaderboards in my classroom, but I am interested in learning how others use them in hopes of continuing to bring a sense of competition and added engagement to my classroom. #games4ed
  • mrwilliamsworld Feb 7 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1: I use them for highest score, highest team score and top 5 most improved #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:10 PM EST
    I'd been thinking about this just today when I was creating questions! I love this! And also that it's the top 5, so kids who are lower aren't publicized, too. Just being on there is an achievement! #games4ed
    In reply to @TechWithParson, @classcraftgame
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:11 PM EST
    What tracking system do you use to track the most improved? I want to do more of this, but with classcraft, I have to record in a spreadsheet periodically, which is a pain #games4ed
    In reply to @mrwilliamsworld
  • edtechThierry Feb 7 @ 8:11 PM EST
    A1. I am a total noob on this chat and haven't done much or any games in my class. #FirstYearTeacher #games4ed
    In reply to @mpilakow
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:12 PM EST
    Q2: Leaderboards are a common game mechanic, and not just in business. What are some advantages to using the leaderboard mechanic? #games4ed
  • MarianaGSerrato Feb 7 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1 cont: This year they only see top 10, and in their individual pages they see two above and two below. This seems to give a more attainable goal to all #games4ed
  • TechWithParson Feb 7 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1 cont.) Everything my students do they get @classcraftgame XP for. Plus we have Extra XP side quests & "Easter eggs." I want my board to be totally separate from grades. Sadly, as hard as I try, grades aren't always the best measure & not what I want kids comparing. #games4ed
  • edtechThierry Feb 7 @ 8:14 PM EST
    What do you use for your leaderboard? #games4ed
    In reply to @MarianaGSerrato
  • MarianaGSerrato Feb 7 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A2: It provides an incentive to competitive students. Though it can also be demotivating, which again is why now I do not publish "full" leaderboards. #games4ed
  • mrwilliamsworld Feb 7 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A2: Two edged sword. Inspires many to compete and promote teamwork. Causes a few to give up. That’s why I introduced the most improved if they are doing poorly, they can score well and get recognition #games4ed
  • mrwilliamsworld Feb 7 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A3: See my A2 #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:15 PM EST
    So glad to have you, Thierry! It's great to even start small with games :) #games4ed
    In reply to @edtechThierry
  • TechWithParson Feb 7 @ 8:15 PM EST
    A2) The advantage I am *hoping* to get is some healthy competition. Students only get XP if work is done on time, so turning in late work hurts your chances. #games4ed
  • MrRoughton Feb 7 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A2) If your rewards are XP based having a leaderboard helps kids "see" what rewards other get that they are missing. FOMO! #games4ed
  • TechWithParson Feb 7 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A2) Another advantage is a chance for kids to see how they stack up against other classes. 5 classes across 3 grade levels are competing to make it on my board! @classcraftgame #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:18 PM EST
    Q3: Are there times when a leaderboard is not productive? How public should a leaderboard be? #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:18 PM EST
    Totally agree with not pushing out full leaderboards. #games4ed
    In reply to @MarianaGSerrato
  • MarianaGSerrato Feb 7 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A2 cont: and as @MrRoughton points out, that is where they can see who has earned what (badges, perks, etc.) #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:19 PM EST
    I like doing the team leaderboards. Promotes teamwork and doesn't pressure individuals. They naturally compete among themselves, it seems, without needing to promote individual scores #games4ed
    In reply to @mrwilliamsworld
  • MarianaGSerrato Feb 7 @ 8:19 PM EST
    I created my own on Google sheets. In the pics you see the global and one of the classes. The bottom links lead to their individual sheets. #games4ed
    In reply to @edtechThierry
  • mrwilliamsworld Feb 7 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A4: I’ve used community volunteers to judge and even display work in their places of business. One S built a model of Stonehenge and it was placed in an architects office. #games4ed
  • YS_Mr_Good Feb 7 @ 8:20 PM EST
    I like the idea of using the leaderboard across classes? I too teach the same class to three different classes and find additional excitement and drive when competing against one another #games4ed
    In reply to @TechWithParson, @classcraftgame
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:20 PM EST
    Darn tootin! I might need to borrow this idea next year #games4ed
    In reply to @TechWithParson, @classcraftgame
  • MrRoughton Feb 7 @ 8:21 PM EST
    A3) I've not had any problems with public boards. Kids are welcome to change their name if they want. They honestly don't care. #games4ed
  • TechWithParson Feb 7 @ 8:21 PM EST
    A3) I think a leaderboard should be that, a board that shows the leaders. The top few. I would feel discouraged if I had to look at a board where I was 22/24 or something. It makes climbing to the top seem unachievable. It stops being a positive thing then. #games4ed
  • SamMoreland8 Feb 7 @ 8:21 PM EST
    A3: I know sometimes it helps when the students can use an alias as their name for the leaderboard so they can see where they stand but there is no embarrassment if they are at the bottom. #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:22 PM EST
    This is such an awesome idea! I need to do more of this...maybe put our college comp narrative pubications in our dentist and doctors offices! Brilliant! #games4ed
    • mrwilliamsworld Feb 7 @ 8:19 PM EST
      A4: I’ve used community volunteers to judge and even display work in their places of business. One S built a model of Stonehenge and it was placed in an architects office. #games4ed
  • MarianaGSerrato Feb 7 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A3: I used to publish "full versions", and while it worked for some, for others it almost became a "I will never make it so I'm not ging to try". With that new mini-version, the kids are much more motivated and often "sneak peaks" to see if they've gotten this or that. #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:23 PM EST
    I know some teachers also have students even create their own avatar profile and/or playing card. Really a chance to play with a "new" identity! Good idea! #games4ed
    In reply to @SamMoreland8
  • MarianaGSerrato Feb 7 @ 8:23 PM EST
    I agree with the digital working for me. I've automated many of the things that go in it so I dont have to worry about updating. Otherwise it would be a nightmare #games4ed
    In reply to @MrCarlsonsClass, @mpilakow
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:24 PM EST
    Q4: Beyond grades, how can we use a leaderboard mechanic to recognize students and/or student teams? #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:26 PM EST
    A4: This is an area I'd like to improve, especially to recognized SEL skills. Reaching a goal, improving something. I need to get more organized in how to track, though #games4ed
  • TechWithParson Feb 7 @ 8:26 PM EST
    A4)Mine is fully XP based. And while 100% on tasks earns you 100% of the available XP, there are a lot of other ways to earn, so kids who aren't necessarily my top in the gradebook still have a chance to shine. #games4ed
  • MarianaGSerrato Feb 7 @ 8:26 PM EST
    A4: I put in there almost everything they do. For example side quests are never for credit, but they have a high XP value. Same goes for easter eggs. #games4ed
  • MrRoughton Feb 7 @ 8:27 PM EST
    A4) A permanent spot on the Wall of Champions! https://t.co/rQweOJmJvP #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:27 PM EST
    What are some of the other ways your kids earn XP? Other than random events? #askingforafriend #games4ed
    In reply to @TechWithParson
  • MarianaGSerrato Feb 7 @ 8:28 PM EST
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:28 PM EST
    The picture isn't showing up. I am sad. #games4ed
    In reply to @MrRoughton
  • EdSurge Feb 7 @ 8:29 PM EST
    "The technology industry—and gaming, in particular—have in recent history stirred criticism for providing few opportunities for women or people of color." Here's how gaming could be a solution: (2017) https://t.co/4Mzwt2jMpm #games4ed #edtechchat
  • edtechThierry Feb 7 @ 8:29 PM EST
    #games4ed
    In reply to @TechWithParson, @classcraftgame
  • MarianaGSerrato Feb 7 @ 8:30 PM EST
    If you use Gsheets and embed it, it will display changes in real time so it can stay up without you having to publish each time #games4ed
    In reply to @MrCarlsonsClass
  • mpilakow - Moderator Feb 7 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Fun chat #games4ed folks! Thanks for sharing ideas and input--and also thanks to our Coe College students for joining in tonight! Come back whenever you want :)
  • MissWilgenbusch Feb 7 @ 8:31 PM EST
    A3: A leaderboard can be negative when the students get too invested. Depending on the topic some students may find it more beneficial to look at their individual scores and progress rather than whole class #games4ed
  • MarianaGSerrato Feb 7 @ 8:33 PM EST
    We have started some of this, though still have not figured out the "reaching a goal" part, but perhaps it can serve as inspiration. https://t.co/2wEmm4d11D #games4ed
    In reply to @mpilakow
  • MarianaGSerrato Feb 7 @ 8:35 PM EST
    Great chat! Thank you @mpilakow for the awesome topic and questions. Gotta build that sand castle before it's too late :) #games4ed
  • MarianaGSerrato Feb 7 @ 8:37 PM EST
    Yes - https://t.co/qYceaPCo80 … and automated with https://t.co/6QBtUnpDoQ#games4ed
    In reply to @MrCarlsonsClass, @mpilakow