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Thursday May 12, 2016
9:00 PM EDT
dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Welcome to tonight's
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Let's start with the usual, check-ins.
@dropmechanix
20+ college and HS coach
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mvmrmain
May 12 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@dropmechanix
Matt Main, Metea Valley Aurora, Il
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Q1/A1 format
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@mvmrmain
Glad to have you.
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OLineTips
May 12 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@OLineTips
Ready to roll.
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Tonight's topic: Kick Off
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Q1: Is your KO a 5x5 or 6x4? And why?
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OLineTips
May 12 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: 6-4 from the hash. We want to eliminate the chance of a return as much as possible.
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Zach_Turner1
May 12 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Zach Turner Assistant coach at Kenton High School.
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@OLineTips
By making it easier for the K to keep ball near sideline?
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@Zach_Turner1
Welcome!
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mvmrmain
May 12 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@dropmechanix
We are 5x5. Less predictable for placement of a good returner and gives options using the entire field.
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Q2 coming up...
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@mvmrmain
Your K is good kicking it either way?
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mvmrmain
May 12 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@OLineTips
@dropmechanix
From film it's a rarity to find a team with more than 2 returns for us. I like making opp prep
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q2: What have you done to adapt to the "being within 5 yards from scrimmage" rule?
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kdawgswift
May 12 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1: 6X4 allows us to shrink the field, kick to spots & tweak coverage
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Q1: Is your KO a 5x5 or 6x4? And why?
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OLineTips
May 12 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@dropmechanix
Okay got it. We tell our guys back foot must be inside the 35 yard line, we KO from the 40.
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:20 PM EDT
It seems most KO teams now start w/a tight bunch + spread out on kick 2 gain speed + confuse teams that count 2 Block.
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mvmrmain
May 12 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@dropmechanix
new one this year. We will see!
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2 It seems most KO teams now start w/a tight bunch + spread out on kick 2 gain speed + confuse teams that count 2 Block.
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@OLineTips
As well as getting outflanked on a sideline return if Kicker strays off target on kick.
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q3 coming up...
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Welcome to those that are tuning in and reading along with us. Feel free to join in. The more the merrier!
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Q3: Do you do anything to counter the KOR teams that "count" off who they are going to block?
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mvmrmain
May 12 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@dropmechanix
A2: we have a few bunch looks as well. Most contact takes place after 15 yds anyway so there's time to run
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@mvmrmain
I've seen a few that bunch but leave a player wide on each side 2 help w/contain. Curious how well that works.
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OLineTips
May 12 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3: I think using directional KO's dictating where the ball will be and adjusting the coverage the count is irrelevant.
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@OLineTips
Agreed
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mvmrmain
May 12 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@dropmechanix
A3: 1 thing we do is move our player. Same role, different location. Safety man especially.
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@mvmrmain
Simple but effective!
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kdawgswift
May 12 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A2: Nothing because we were always basically close just had to change what foot was on the line.
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q2: What have you done to adapt to the "being within 5 yards from scrimmage" rule?
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Q4: What type of players do you use for KO? Offensive or Defensive, starter or back-up?
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QBCoachMcEvoy
May 12 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A3: Used to run a simple switch on the outside (#1/#2).. #1 would run HOT, #2 would be contain player - #1 often free run
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OLineTips
May 12 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4: Players I trust. I'll never put a kid out there just to give him PT. I like faster LB/RB WR/DB type players on KO.
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4: Always believed the best players play. Too much at stake on a KO. Momentum can swing awfully quick on this unit.
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mvmrmain
May 12 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@dropmechanix
A4 S, WR, RB, LBs and if I have a fast DE maybe. Regardless I want aggressive, team oriented, & fast
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Midgetfb99
May 12 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@dropmechanix
Very small school, best 11 athletes when possible, regardless of position.
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QBCoachMcEvoy
May 12 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@dropmechanix
Absolutely - Every extra ten yards given up is a free 1st down for their O.. Make them earn it against D
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@QBCoachMcEvoy
Great way to look at it.
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Q5: Looking for sudden change; what's your go to Onside Kick?
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OLineTips
May 12 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5: Send some heat the Center!
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Midgetfb99
May 12 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@dropmechanix
A5 Blast it right at the weakest link on the front line!
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A5: If u have a K that can do it, short kick into ground to get a high bounce towards the sideline.
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@Midgetfb99
Just like the Kicker in the movie Waterboy! Love it!
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mvmrmain
May 12 @ 9:50 PM EDT
@dropmechanix
A5: if my k can kick down hard to get a high hop, I use it.
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:50 PM EDT
@mvmrmain
That's a better way to describe what I was trying to say.
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Gonna start a new feature tonight with the last question. A situational, what would you do?
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mvmrmain
May 12 @ 9:55 PM EDT
@dropmechanix
my athlete vs opp big ugly I like the odds.
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Q6: Just scored, down 5, 3 min. left, no TOs, D playing well but O is good running team...Onside or K deep + pin them?
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OLineTips
May 12 @ 9:58 PM EDT
A6: Tough, but I'd kick deep. I'll take my chances by playing defense rather than attempting an onside.
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mvmrmain
May 12 @ 9:58 PM EDT
@dropmechanix
A6 Cheating here but I line up in bunch. They go onside, I kick deep. They go return, I onside.
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dropmechanix
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May 12 @ 9:59 PM EDT
@Midgetfb99
couldn't agree more with the refs.
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