#425chat Archive
This is a chat for football coaches to discuss the 4-2-5 defense on Thursday at 8PM CT
Thursday January 12, 2017
9:00 PM EST
participatechat
Jan 12 @ 9:00 PM EST
Participate in the upcoming
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rmacblue
Jan 12 @ 9:02 PM EST
Ryan McCartney DC Seymour HS, Indiana Host of
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joehood2288
Jan 12 @ 9:02 PM EST
Joseph Hood Secondary Coach Brownfield High School
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CoachM_Hancock
Jan 12 @ 9:02 PM EST
@Def425chat
Mike Hancock Walnut Grove (GA)
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coachrugs
Jan 12 @ 9:02 PM EST
Alex Rouggly-HC/DC Jefferson MO.
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CoachHays13
Jan 12 @ 9:03 PM EST
Daran Hays HBC North Marion High School WV
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CoachJPWilson
Jan 12 @ 9:03 PM EST
Jason Wilson DL, SC, Birmingham Groves (MI)
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CoachBicker
Jan 12 @ 9:03 PM EST
Bill Bicker. HC Plainfield South HS; Plainfield, IL
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PLesu07
Jan 12 @ 9:04 PM EST
Monterey, Calif checkin in
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jwfaure
Jan 12 @ 9:04 PM EST
🇦🇺 Josh Faure | HC | Northern Raider (HS equivalent) | AUSTRALIA 🇦🇺
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coachcoker02
Jan 12 @ 9:05 PM EST
Brian Coker DC Levelland HS, Levelland TX
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ahaze14
Jan 12 @ 9:05 PM EST
Aaron Hazel HC La Salle Prep Portland, Oregon
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coachehret
Jan 12 @ 9:05 PM EST
Brandon Ehret West Allis Hale HC
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:05 PM EST
Two more minutes of introductions and following your peers! Then the reason everyone is here!
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CodyCaseNoSpace
Jan 12 @ 9:06 PM EST
Cody Case, DLine Coach at East Hall High School in Gainesville. GA.
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:07 PM EST
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_coachgibbslv
Jan 12 @ 9:06 PM EST
@Def425chat
Maurice Gibbs DL (ends) Shadow Ridge HS Las Vegas,NV
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CoachByrd_
Jan 12 @ 9:07 PM EST
Jamelle Byrd DC/LB Charlotte NC
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:07 PM EST
We will follow the Q1/A1 forum for all 6 questions tonight regarding install and alignment!
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:08 PM EST
Q1: What is your thought process for your D install? Base D? Get everything in? Etc...
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CoachCigs
Jan 12 @ 9:08 PM EST
Mike Consiglio, Defensive Consultant, St. James Academy , KS
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:08 PM EST
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CoachDUBBahs
Jan 12 @ 9:02 PM EST
@Def425chat
Al Wilson-Safeties Coach-Alcovy High, Covington GA
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BigNuts55
Jan 12 @ 9:08 PM EST
@Def425chat
Youth DC (10U), San Diego. Thanks for your time, gentlemen
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rmacblue
Jan 12 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1) Gotta start base; anything else is a temporary fix when things go wrong!
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CoachBlacha
Jan 12 @ 9:09 PM EST
Phillip Blacha OL just learning the ways of my enemies.... I mean friends* lol
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CoachHays13
Jan 12 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1: Never in a rush! Fundamentals always trump scheme, if we don't have complicated blitz package at scrimmage one, so be it.
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GreenwellTodd
Jan 12 @ 9:10 PM EST
Seeing this more in Louisville. Here to get a beret feel how you manipulate your pieces to gain advantage.
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CodyCaseNoSpace
Jan 12 @ 9:10 PM EST
Probably just going to watch tonight. We don't run this defense, so I'll take the opportunity to learn.
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joehood2288
Jan 12 @ 9:11 PM EST
Start with base and add when you are good in base
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coachrugs
Jan 12 @ 9:11 PM EST
Base D Shade- Shade/5 to WS - 3/5 to Strength -Zone cover team - Stance/Steps/alignment/reads/keys is 1st for us.
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CoachBicker
Jan 12 @ 9:11 PM EST
Three day install; 1. Base 2. Checks vs. uniques 3. Blitz package. Repeat all summer.
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brgredd
Jan 12 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1 base needs to be installed first. Everything else should be a progression from your base
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Coach_JGill
Jan 12 @ 9:11 PM EST
Install vs O groupings. Day 1 is 2x2. Can be 10/11/12 etc. Work 3x1, empty & so on. Pair up stunts/blitz w/ O install.
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:11 PM EST
First four questions are install! Last two will be about trips alignment and FIB!
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GreenwellTodd
Jan 12 @ 9:10 PM EST
Seeing this more in Louisville. Here to get a beret feel how you manipulate your pieces to gain advantage.
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CoachJPressley
Jan 12 @ 9:11 PM EST
@Def425chat
Coaches, anyone cross train safeties to play strong and weak so they can stay on one side?
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 12 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1: Base D with alignment/assignment/coverage. Work most common formations first, then throw in unique formations.
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coachDCope
Jan 12 @ 9:12 PM EST
We always start base do not move on until we get the basics. Two fronts one coverage. Move onto stunts simple to complex
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coachcoker02
Jan 12 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: get base D in. First to 2x2, then 3x1, then 2 back followed with adjustments/pressures
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CoachBicker
Jan 12 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: 3 day install. 1. Base. 2. Checks vs uniques. 3. Blitzes. Repeat all summer
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runyan25
Jan 12 @ 9:12 PM EST
how long do you rep base before you start to add stuff in?
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In reply to @rmacblue
Coach_JGill
Jan 12 @ 9:13 PM EST
Should be able to line up & play our base vs any set/motion/trade. If you can't execute base D the rest is a waste.
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LucPolglaze
Jan 12 @ 9:13 PM EST
Luc Polglaze, Wide Receivers Coach for
@TechHSFB
in Washington DC, Defensive Backs Coach for a couple of semi-pro teams
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mikestauffer
Jan 12 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1) Start with base front and cover, move on with adjustments as they get it down before moving on
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CoachJPWilson
Jan 12 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1) Base installed in summer/doubles, add each week as we go through season. Some years do more, depends on 🏈IQ of guys
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CoachOrtiz1
Jan 12 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1 It depends what your kids can handle and what you have coming back. We definitely will get the basics of the scheme in.
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:13 PM EST
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ahaze14
Jan 12 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1: Day 1 Base against 21 pers and 2x2's, Day 2 base against 3x1's, Day 3 motion adjustments. No blitz till we can align right.
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CoachCigs
Jan 12 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1 - rep the heck out of base. Focus on alignment, assignment, responsibility, & running to the football
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:14 PM EST
I like this a lot to help get kids seeing the major differences in personnel!
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Coach_JGill
Jan 12 @ 9:11 PM EST
Install vs O groupings. Day 1 is 2x2. Can be 10/11/12 etc. Work 3x1, empty & so on. Pair up stunts/blitz w/ O install.
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CoachByrd_
Jan 12 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1: Start with base which last was Cov 3 & Cov 1....over/G & under front and just bullets blitzes to begin
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Coach_JGill
Jan 12 @ 9:15 PM EST
Yessir! Only 1 motion away from being the other guy! Teach whole scheme to safeties. Must interchange.
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In reply to @CoachJPressley, @Def425chat
TechHSFB
Jan 12 @ 9:15 PM EST
Love the sharing of ideas for the coaching community on Twitter! Checking in for the
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LucPolglaze
Jan 12 @ 9:13 PM EST
Luc Polglaze, Wide Receivers Coach for
@TechHSFB
in Washington DC, Defensive Backs Coach for a couple of semi-pro teams
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coachrugs
Jan 12 @ 9:15 PM EST
A1 (cont'd) Cover 3 b/c were a zone team, then add cov 4, cov 2. We actually teach man tech at the end of our install.
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:15 PM EST
welcome! I count your sign in from yesterday!
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In reply to @coachwillby
ChaosTempo
Jan 12 @ 9:16 PM EST
Until we get it right!
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In reply to @runyan25, @rmacblue
Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:16 PM EST
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CoachGrayvold
Jan 12 @ 9:16 PM EST
Late to the game but hello
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 12 @ 9:17 PM EST
A1 cont.: looking at cover 3 and cover 6 vs trips look.
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:17 PM EST
Great start to the chat! Q2 coming up in 2 minutes!
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The_Coach_A
Jan 12 @ 9:18 PM EST
Cody Alexander CBs @ Lovejoy HS (TX) Author
https://t.co/dmSOP6hmqQ
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:18 PM EST
awesomeness!
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In reply to @LucPolglaze, @CoachJPressley
Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:18 PM EST
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Coach_JGill
Jan 12 @ 9:18 PM EST
We start w/ Robber to $ side and Palms to WS side since we see 2x2 first.
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:19 PM EST
check out the site for GREAT info!
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In reply to @The_Coach_A
CoachJPressley
Jan 12 @ 9:19 PM EST
Do you coach the safeties yourself? Or all DBs together? Is it easier for you in the long run? Have you tried it both ways?
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Coach_JGill
Jan 12 @ 9:15 PM EST
Yessir! Only 1 motion away from being the other guy! Teach whole scheme to safeties. Must interchange.
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In reply to @CoachJPressley, @Def425chat
MrHochmuth15
Jan 12 @ 9:19 PM EST
A1 We rep our base front the 1st week and base coverage. Work on alignments assignments vs mult forms
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:20 PM EST
Q2: Do you have a spring ball? If not, how do you reinforce teaching your defense?
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The_Coach_A
Jan 12 @ 9:20 PM EST
A1: 3-day install. Start w/ base (4-Read). Teach formations & Coverages Day 1, Pressures (5-man) Day 2, & finish w/ BTFs Day 3.
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CoachBicker
Jan 12 @ 9:20 PM EST
how do you set the front? Over to the read side?
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:20 PM EST
@Coach_JGill
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In reply to @CoachJPressley, @Coach_JGill
CoachWoot1
Jan 12 @ 9:21 PM EST
A1: the two different coverages out of cover 3 either high or low. Then build upon that
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coachrugs
Jan 12 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2: No spring ball. Ton of classroom chalk talk. Introduced mini camp for install purposes during the summer that have helped a ton
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coachswarers
Jan 12 @ 9:21 PM EST
Dylan Swarers. OLB Coach at Beaumont West Brook HS in TX. Spectating tonight.
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rmacblue
Jan 12 @ 9:22 PM EST
A2) No spring ball, but we are in gym/classroom once a week all semester. Get after it 3 days a week June/July
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The_Coach_A
Jan 12 @ 9:22 PM EST
A1 (con't): After Day 3 work extensively on formations, half-line, and gap exchanges. Con't to cycle through.
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CoachJPressley
Jan 12 @ 9:22 PM EST
A2: We can't get a ball on the field until June. The classroom is where we do all of our spring teaching.
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:20 PM EST
Q2: Do you have a spring ball? If not, how do you reinforce teaching your defense?
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:22 PM EST
Welcome coach. More Texas ball coaches reppin tonight!
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coachswarers
Jan 12 @ 9:21 PM EST
Dylan Swarers. OLB Coach at Beaumont West Brook HS in TX. Spectating tonight.
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CoachJPWilson
Jan 12 @ 9:22 PM EST
A2)No spring ball in MI. We do weekly films and position meetings in May, then summer 7 on 7 league. Really no install until Aug
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 12 @ 9:22 PM EST
A2: no spring ball in Ohio. We try to create Hudl installs, share them with players. Start having meetings in summer to reinforce
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CoachByrd_
Jan 12 @ 9:22 PM EST
We have spring ball but only 10 practices so we focus on fundamentals like pursuit and run fits only install base coverage & front
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CoachWoot1
Jan 12 @ 9:23 PM EST
A2: spring ball and it's needed. We try have seniors go thru install with the players so we can catch the underclassmen up
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CoachOrtiz1
Jan 12 @ 9:23 PM EST
A2 we will use the month of march to teach and rep individual positions. As we progress to April we will start 7-7 and run fits.
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CoachByrd_
Jan 12 @ 9:23 PM EST
A2 yes spring ball but only 10 practices so we focus on fundamentals like pursuit and run fits only install base coverage & front
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The_Coach_A
Jan 12 @ 9:23 PM EST
We have Spring Ball in TX. Treat it much like Fall Camp except scrimmage more (good-on-good). Longer Indy periods too.
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:20 PM EST
Q2: Do you have a spring ball? If not, how do you reinforce teaching your defense?
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Coach_JGill
Jan 12 @ 9:24 PM EST
Yes. 4 wks to get 10 pract/scrim. In addition to off-season begin install mtgs in March. 1 day X/Os. 1 day rep it.
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mikestauffer
Jan 12 @ 9:24 PM EST
A2) We practice 2x per month Feb-Apr, spring ball in May, passing league in June. Plenty of time for install and repetition
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MrHochmuth15
Jan 12 @ 9:24 PM EST
A2 WI HS allows 5 contact days in summer. We use those to rep base fronts and slants. Work in C3 and C2 during pass solely
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:24 PM EST
Q3: coming up next!
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CoachOrtiz1
Jan 12 @ 9:24 PM EST
A2 (cont) we do have spring ball in the month of May
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Coach_JGill
Jan 12 @ 9:25 PM EST
We set the front based on run surface, back field set, field/boundary, and tendency.
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In reply to @CoachBicker, @Def425chat
CoachCigs
Jan 12 @ 9:25 PM EST
A2 - no spring ball, we have a 4 day OTA first week of summer. Also, base defense teaching video by position
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CoachJPressley
Jan 12 @ 9:25 PM EST
Good stuff. Trying to keep our S that play both ways from running across the field 50 extra times a game.
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In reply to @Def425chat, @Coach_JGill
Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:25 PM EST
Q3: How important is installing your defense as quick as possible? What's most important in your install?
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coachehret
Jan 12 @ 9:25 PM EST
A2: No Spring ball in Wisconsin. Allowed 5 contact days in the summer and begin each day with "Team Teach" for 30-45 minutes.
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joehood2288
Jan 12 @ 9:26 PM EST
We have spring ball, just don't get to pad up! Great time to teach new guys that will move up the next fall.
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MrHochmuth15
Jan 12 @ 9:26 PM EST
also have a summer 7 on 7 passing league to rep coverages vs different offenses
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Coach_JGill
Jan 12 @ 9:26 PM EST
@Def425chat
I coach all DBs. Have a "GA" to work w/. Will work then separate some and group some.
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In reply to @CoachJPressley, @Def425chat
CoachOrtiz1
Jan 12 @ 9:26 PM EST
A2 We are fortunate to have kids playing in 7on7 leagues outside of school that starts in Dec.
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CoachGrayvold
Jan 12 @ 9:27 PM EST
A3 THE BASICS. All the flash and jazz is nice, but if you don't have the basics down before you put everything else in, not good.
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coachrugs
Jan 12 @ 9:27 PM EST
A3: Not important to rush things. Feel if we can't play our base D, then it will be a long year. Our Base D is the most important.
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ChaosTempo
Jan 12 @ 9:27 PM EST
We play field/boundary as much as possible.
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In reply to @CoachJPressley, @Def425chat, @Coach_JGill
Th3K1nG15
Jan 12 @ 9:28 PM EST
A1: line up in 2 shell, SS head up to outside #2 play split field coverage. Will lines up in hip alignment WS and FS l/s #2 12 off
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rmacblue
Jan 12 @ 9:28 PM EST
A3) Can't rush perfection. Focus on alignment, assignment, IQ. Need to lower the mistakes daily
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CoachBicker
Jan 12 @ 9:28 PM EST
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Coach_JGill
Jan 12 @ 9:28 PM EST
Exactly. Wk-Str mo is easier than Str-wk mo if you leave $ to the field. Need to know adjustments.
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In reply to @CoachJPressley, @Def425chat
ChaosTempo
Jan 12 @ 9:29 PM EST
A3 Alignment Assignment Execution
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The_Coach_A
Jan 12 @ 9:29 PM EST
A3: Formations are the foundation of the call sheet. If we can't line up then it doesn't matter. Foundational calls in 3 days.
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:25 PM EST
Q3: How important is installing your defense as quick as possible? What's most important in your install?
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mikestauffer
Jan 12 @ 9:29 PM EST
A3) How to line up! Tackling and pursuit
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CoachOrtiz1
Jan 12 @ 9:29 PM EST
A3 Since we have 2 strength calls for the front and back ends, formation recognition and alignment are very important.
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CoachCigs
Jan 12 @ 9:29 PM EST
A3 - quick install is not important to us. Base is our best play call!
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joehood2288
Jan 12 @ 9:30 PM EST
Installing quick is not important at all, knowing what we are doing on every snap is of most importance
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CoachJPressley
Jan 12 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3: Our DC does a great job of pacing depending on the players. I think it's important to know your kids and not overwhelm them.
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:25 PM EST
Q3: How important is installing your defense as quick as possible? What's most important in your install?
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 12 @ 9:31 PM EST
A3: I want to get in base alignment/assignment in early summer so we can get as much repetition as we can before 7on7, scrimmages
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Coach_JGill
Jan 12 @ 9:31 PM EST
Base is always key. "ASKA" Alignment Stance Key Assignment (Run to, Run Away, Pass)
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ahaze14
Jan 12 @ 9:32 PM EST
A3: Alignment, Assignment, leverage!
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ChaosTempo
Jan 12 @ 9:32 PM EST
Could not agree more! Gotta have a plan but that plan has to be fluid. IMO
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CoachJPressley
Jan 12 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3: Our DC does a great job of pacing depending on the players. I think it's important to know your kids and not overwhelm them.
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:25 PM EST
Q3: How important is installing your defense as quick as possible? What's most important in your install?
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Coach_JGill
Jan 12 @ 9:32 PM EST
We'd set it to left most likely unless we have big tendency breaker. Most O's right handed.
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In reply to @CoachBicker, @Def425chat
Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:32 PM EST
Keep it up coaches! Great info and install philosophy!
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MrHochmuth15
Jan 12 @ 9:33 PM EST
A3 Speed of install isn't most important getting alignment and carrying out assignment is. Need to rep base until it is done well
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CoachPMA
Jan 12 @ 9:33 PM EST
Phillip Archuleta, Albuquerque New Mexico. Coached DL and LB's in high school and college. Recently worked with 4-2-5 defense.
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:33 PM EST
I go opposite the back
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In reply to @CoachBicker, @Coach_JGill
Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:33 PM EST
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CoachByrd_
Jan 12 @ 9:34 PM EST
A3 Speed of install doesn't matter gotta know our assignment & alignment we want to be reacting flying around not thinking about it
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:34 PM EST
Q4: Does anybody have any helpful doc. or organization tool that work for laying out your install? Like an excel doc or something?
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The_Coach_A
Jan 12 @ 9:34 PM EST
Totally agree. Outside of foundational principles, your scheme has to be fluid & adaptive. Down to your practices & install!
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ChaosTempo
Jan 12 @ 9:32 PM EST
Could not agree more! Gotta have a plan but that plan has to be fluid. IMO
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CoachJPressley
Jan 12 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3: Our DC does a great job of pacing depending on the players. I think it's important to know your kids and not overwhelm them.
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:25 PM EST
Q3: How important is installing your defense as quick as possible? What's most important in your install?
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:35 PM EST
Welcome coach
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CoachPMA
Jan 12 @ 9:33 PM EST
Phillip Archuleta, Albuquerque New Mexico. Coached DL and LB's in high school and college. Recently worked with 4-2-5 defense.
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:35 PM EST
thank you coach! Will def use!
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In reply to @Coachmac8740
Coach_JGill
Jan 12 @ 9:35 PM EST
Good vs 10p 2x2. Six man box either way. Would depend on O run scheme but our rule is "1 back=1 gap"
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In reply to @Def425chat, @CoachBicker
BigNuts55
Jan 12 @ 9:36 PM EST
A3: presnap identification.
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In reply to @Def425chat
rmacblue
Jan 12 @ 9:36 PM EST
A4) I used to hand write my goals for install; like a lesson plan. Need to have an end in sight. But, it really depends on the kids
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Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:36 PM EST
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coachrugs
Jan 12 @ 9:37 PM EST
A4: We meet as a staff in the early spring & breakdown our install plan on the dry erase board. Document, then implement in season.
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CODY_GARDNER
Jan 12 @ 9:37 PM EST
Cody G late, sorry BBQ and Best Buy trip
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mikestauffer
Jan 12 @ 9:37 PM EST
A4) Not really. Pace depends on personnel. Changes every year.
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CoachJPressley
Jan 12 @ 9:37 PM EST
@Def425chat
Seems most of you are playing Field/Boundary safeties. Is anyone playing strictly L/R Safeties? Thoughts?
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In reply to @Def425chat
Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:37 PM EST
against your opponents
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In reply to @Coachmac8740
Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:38 PM EST
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In reply to @Coach_JGill, @CoachOrtiz1, @CoachBicker
CoachByrd_
Jan 12 @ 9:39 PM EST
A4 We map out what we want installed but all depends on how good we are mastering the perquisites before we move to next phase
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CoachJPWilson
Jan 12 @ 9:39 PM EST
A4) We go off site for 4 days in August, coaches meet between practices to adjust install plan. Different each year by personnel
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The_Coach_A
Jan 12 @ 9:40 PM EST
A4: PowerPoint & add value with HUDL cut-ups.
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Th3K1nG15
Jan 12 @ 9:40 PM EST
A3: make sure everyone knows their assignments and are flying around.
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CoachByrd_
Jan 12 @ 9:41 PM EST
We map out our install but all depends on if we master the prerequisites before we install the next phase
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CoachBicker
Jan 12 @ 9:41 PM EST
yeah. Like that.
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In reply to @Coach_JGill, @CoachOrtiz1, @Def425chat
Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:41 PM EST
Q4 and Q5 will be alignment! So have your pens and pads ready!
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ChaosTempo
Jan 12 @ 9:41 PM EST
Have thought about it lots, not sure why we never have. Makes sense though.
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CoachJPressley
Jan 12 @ 9:37 PM EST
@Def425chat
Seems most of you are playing Field/Boundary safeties. Is anyone playing strictly L/R Safeties? Thoughts?
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In reply to @Def425chat
Coach_JGill
Jan 12 @ 9:41 PM EST
We install vs O install schedule. Excel sheet broken down into Form, mo, trade, run, pass, PAP, etc.
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In reply to @Def425chat
Def425chat
- Moderator
Jan 12 @ 9:41 PM EST
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In reply to @coachDCope, @CoachJPressley
CoachByrd_
Jan 12 @ 9:41 PM EST
A4 We map out our install but all depends on if we master the prerequisites before we install the next phase
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MrHochmuth15
Jan 12 @ 9:41 PM EST
A4 Our coaching staff creates a preseason install of fronts stunts blitzes coverages. We review daily to see if kids are ready
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CoachCigs
Jan 12 @ 9:42 PM EST
A4 - we always have a plan in place (OTA Install, Camp Week, First Week of Practice). Don't move on until we master concepts
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coachehret
Jan 12 @ 9:42 PM EST
A4 We have everything mapped out pre-camp but it changes rapidly based on how much our kids absorb
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mikestauffer
Jan 12 @ 9:42 PM EST
@The_Coach_A
What program/software do you use to make your diagrams?
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CoachRmcD60
Jan 12 @ 9:42 PM EST
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3 followers till 700 someone help a brother out
The_Coach_A
Jan 12 @ 9:43 PM EST
PowerPoint. It's actually really easy to make. Just takes some time on the front end.
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mikestauffer
Jan 12 @ 9:42 PM EST
@The_Coach_A
What program/software do you use to make your diagrams?
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BigNuts55
Jan 12 @ 9:44 PM EST
A4: Google Slides. Image search an offensive line template &use it as a background on the slide.It's tedious, but easy
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Def425chat
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Jan 12 @ 9:44 PM EST
Q5: How do your align. rules change with formation into the boundary (FIB)? 3x1 or 3x1 bunch FIB?
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Def425chat
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Jan 12 @ 9:44 PM EST
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Jan 12 @ 9:44 PM EST
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CoachBirty
Jan 12 @ 9:45 PM EST
Trying to get in on this
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but new to twitter
CoachOrtiz1
Jan 12 @ 9:46 PM EST
A4) Like everyone else, we will meet before spring ball and put the install on the board. Try to have it all in by 1st week.
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coachDCope
Jan 12 @ 9:46 PM EST
I have used power point HUDL & playmaker pro. To me all about the same. Good in all three. The more you use them the easier it gets
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rmacblue
Jan 12 @ 9:46 PM EST
Q5) Nothing with numbers; we adjust using spacing and depth. Like keeping our flat defender closer to the box when in boundary
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Def425chat
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Jan 12 @ 9:47 PM EST
just follow me and click search at the bottom. Search
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The_Coach_A
Jan 12 @ 9:47 PM EST
A5: I love FIB! CANNOT treat it like a regular formation. Offenses do this to out-leverage you either to the fld or bnd.
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Coach_JGill
Jan 12 @ 9:47 PM EST
That upside down!
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coachrugs
Jan 12 @ 9:47 PM EST
A5: We love to press against any bunch or stack receiver set.
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mikestauffer
Jan 12 @ 9:48 PM EST
A5) Sam & FS to field. Will and SS in boundary. 3 tech per formation (TE, RB, Field, single WR side vs trips)
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CoachJPressley
Jan 12 @ 9:48 PM EST
@Def425chat
I'm leaning toward playing strictly L/R. I think it simplifies it for our kids and allows us to JUST PLAY more. Right?
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Def425chat
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Jan 12 @ 9:48 PM EST
I know. Wrote it quick lol!
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The_Coach_A
Jan 12 @ 9:48 PM EST
If you are looking for a resource to read about FIB sets I wrote about it here ::
https://t.co/eAD7bQUebV
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The_Coach_A
Jan 12 @ 9:47 PM EST
A5: I love FIB! CANNOT treat it like a regular formation. Offenses do this to out-leverage you either to the fld or bnd.
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Def425chat
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Jan 12 @ 9:48 PM EST
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ChaosTempo
Jan 12 @ 9:50 PM EST
Less moving parts for sure!
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CoachJPressley
Jan 12 @ 9:48 PM EST
@Def425chat
I'm leaning toward playing strictly L/R. I think it simplifies it for our kids and allows us to JUST PLAY more. Right?
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Coach_JGill
Jan 12 @ 9:50 PM EST
FIB is from the pit of Hades and must be treated as such.
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 12 @ 9:50 PM EST
A5: may run more of a cover 3 vs cover 6 with trips into boundary. Depending on where bunch is, we press Mid WR or play outside
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Coach_JGill
Jan 12 @ 9:51 PM EST
@Def425chat
Communists, man. Can't trust those guys for nothin!
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CoachCigs
Jan 12 @ 9:51 PM EST
A5 - we play a 3/5 tech to the FIB and press the bunch formation
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Th3K1nG15
Jan 12 @ 9:52 PM EST
A5: We press with the sam to the boundary and will to the field. Run right and left safeties so no change.
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CoachHays13
Jan 12 @ 9:52 PM EST
We play the numbers 1st the field 2nd,so doesn't really change us much, may lock the BS CB and bring wk S down for edge support
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CoachByrd_
Jan 12 @ 9:53 PM EST
A5) last year 3x1= 2 high spin to 3 buzz or 3 cloud and didn't see much bunch = C1 press the point and banjo #1 & #3
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Def425chat
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Jan 12 @ 9:53 PM EST
Q6: Favorite alignment and coverage vs basic 3x1 and why? Into the boundary and field.
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giveawaydiyo
Jan 12 @ 9:54 PM EST
Q6: Favorite alignment and coverage vs basic 3x1 and why? Into the boundary and field.
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CoachHays13
Jan 12 @ 9:55 PM EST
Was always QQ half, really loving lock 1 and read 2-3. Treats us better vs 3 level flood.
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coachDCope
Jan 12 @ 9:55 PM EST
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three cloud to sprint out in 3x1 is a great coverage
CoachByrd_
Jan 12 @ 9:53 PM EST
A5) last year 3x1= 2 high spin to 3 buzz or 3 cloud and didn't see much bunch = C1 press the point and banjo #1 & #3
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rmacblue
Jan 12 @ 9:56 PM EST
A6) Zone to trips, man backside. Never allow offense to dictate my base. Adjuster is coming from anywhere I want!
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CoachOrtiz1
Jan 12 @ 9:56 PM EST
A5 Still set secondary strength to trips. We would either play a 40 coverage or special on trips side, zero 1WR side and bring WS
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The_Coach_A
Jan 12 @ 9:56 PM EST
A6: Stress. Allows you to stay 2-hi & keep the extra run fitter to the fld (CS). Even w/ a soft CB the Will can attack the scrn.
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CoachGrayvold
Jan 12 @ 9:56 PM EST
A6 These 2 right here
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ChaosTempo
Jan 12 @ 9:57 PM EST
A6 Day 1 is 1/4, 1/4, 1/2 Can sky/cloud to single receiver side and play weak corner differently based on d&d, other factors.
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coachrugs
Jan 12 @ 9:57 PM EST
A6: Can zone too, & man BS or Zone all the way through w/ a robber BS. We have auto adj to whatever is thrown at us.
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 12 @ 9:57 PM EST
A6: cover 6, got 2 deep, 2 under. LB can help with 3 and we can double BS WR with S and C hi-lowing. Got BSLB for HB. Solid.
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CoachJPressley
Jan 12 @ 9:57 PM EST
Honestly, that's my reason for considering it. We have so many two way kids that I want to simplify everything.
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CoachOrtiz1
Jan 12 @ 9:58 PM EST
A6 1) 40 with a robber 2)special.
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CoachBirty
Jan 12 @ 9:58 PM EST
A4.) PowerPoint is easiest and most convenient for me in designing play books. Struggle showing spacing tho
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CoachGrayvold
Jan 12 @ 9:59 PM EST
A6 Here's one variation I like, stole it from Alabama
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CoachByrd_
Jan 12 @ 9:59 PM EST
A6) basic 3x1= 3 Buzz keep LB's in box to worry about run and no vertical threat and get flood coverage(4vs3) to 3x1 side
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coachDCope
Jan 12 @ 9:59 PM EST
A6 we will base our coverage on what opponent does. We must stop what they run we have a couple of diff ways to play it
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CoachOrtiz1
Jan 12 @ 9:59 PM EST
A6) 1. 42 2. 40 w/robber 3. Special
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Coach_V_
Jan 12 @ 9:59 PM EST
A4:
https://t.co/Or1GhSkEUk
along with the snipping tool for Hudl scripts and PowerPoint are all good for org. of install
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