#INZpirED Archive
This is a weekly chat often based around one or two questions to spark discussion & debate around educational issues.
Friday November 25, 2016
10:00 PM EST
sansanananana
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Nov 25 @ 10:00 PM EST
A2 For older students community service is a superb alternative to suspension. Not very prevelant in our part of the world.
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 10:00 PM EST
Can be. Depends on how its handled. Safety is paramount.
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bakshiaarti
Nov 25 @ 10:01 PM EST
Activities , distractions, working on a much loved project also has merits
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KSThakral
- Moderator
Nov 25 @ 10:01 PM EST
Schools need to devote more time to it & often as they are busy places - most cop out & pick time saving strategies
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:01 PM EST
with a strong mentor
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vmatt93
Nov 25 @ 9:56 PM EST
Encouraging and putting them in leadership positions could be a positive reinforcement that many students need.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:02 PM EST
Safe zones: how do we create them?
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 9:56 PM EST
Counselling would be key. Time outs can help. Have safe zones for kids.
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JKatzaman
Nov 25 @ 10:02 PM EST
We have community service required for graduation, but it seems to be mostly a paperwork shuffle.
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rinikaran
Nov 25 @ 10:03 PM EST
Got to go
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@PranSang
@naghma_khn
.Have a great chat.Goodbye everyone.Have a great weekend.Will catchup .Please tag me.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:03 PM EST
Would love to know more
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rinikaran
Nov 25 @ 9:56 PM EST
Having a In house school chaplain who liaises between the school and parents - has def helped to a large extent at my school.
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PranSang
Nov 25 @ 9:52 PM EST
A2: could counselling by school psychiatrist or counsellor help instead of expulsion?Or give them responsible role in sum activity
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PranSang
Nov 25 @ 10:03 PM EST
one way could be by making a responsible student overlook activities of the child with challenges& reporting to classT
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sansanananana
- Moderator
Nov 25 @ 10:03 PM EST
yes that's true unfortunately. But if we bring it in as part of the curriculum it can do wonders
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:03 PM EST
It is bad behavior rather than bad students
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vmatt93
Nov 25 @ 9:57 PM EST
That's exactly why we need to stop avoiding bad behavior! It needs to be confronted and dealt with at the school.
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KSThakral
- Moderator
Nov 25 @ 10:04 PM EST
Have a great weekend Harini. Glad to have you onboard
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vmatt93
Nov 25 @ 10:04 PM EST
I agree! Parent involvement is important throughout a student's educational path. Educators need to bridge this gap with parents.
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DrHarrisonMcCoy
Nov 25 @ 9:59 PM EST
You know, it's a lot about parent support and building relationships with the Ss to avoid the big issues.
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KSThakral
- Moderator
Nov 25 @ 10:05 PM EST
By teaching children - no space is safe unless the community respects that
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bakshiaarti
Nov 25 @ 10:05 PM EST
Ss need "psychological safety " , fear of being ridiculed gets them to misbehave
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S clown up, disrupt than agree studies not clear
sansanananana
- Moderator
Nov 25 @ 10:05 PM EST
structured time outs r useful. Just sitting in a corner for a 5 yr old becomes traumatic if frequent
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 10:05 PM EST
Be careful with this. It could put that responsible child in-between a rock and a hard place.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:05 PM EST
Isn't that tell tale? Students dynamics will sufffer
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PranSang
Nov 25 @ 10:03 PM EST
one way could be by making a responsible student overlook activities of the child with challenges& reporting to classT
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:05 PM EST
Thank you for the valuable inputs
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NigamKriti
Nov 25 @ 10:06 PM EST
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identify triggers..also kinesthetic engagements of their interest and above all sensitization of peers for supporting
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:06 PM EST
Q3. What are the initiatives for effective discipline taken by you/ your school
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KSThakral
- Moderator
Nov 25 @ 10:06 PM EST
Missed your tweet. Addressing the symptoms are important. Spend more time treating then preventing.
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 10:06 PM EST
Confronted yes, but also try to identify the root cause. Catch them being good.
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JKatzaman
Nov 25 @ 10:07 PM EST
Like everything else, its success depends on who's running the program and how punishment is enforced.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:07 PM EST
There is always something more important to attend to
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:01 PM EST
Schools need to devote more time to it & often as they are busy places - most cop out & pick time saving strategies
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KSThakral
- Moderator
Nov 25 @ 10:07 PM EST
Welcome to
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yes - counselling seems to be a key theme along with safe zones for children. Get them to write perhaps
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:08 PM EST
Bring all the agents working on/for the child together
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DrHarrisonMcCoy
Nov 25 @ 9:59 PM EST
You know, it's a lot about parent support and building relationships with the Ss to avoid the big issues.
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sansanananana
- Moderator
Nov 25 @ 10:08 PM EST
if punishments are recreated keeping in mind something constructive the whole devil pictured behind it would vanish
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KSThakral
- Moderator
Nov 25 @ 10:09 PM EST
That is the way forward. Also getting kids to articulate why they did what they did, helps understanding their point of view
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 10:09 PM EST
Little is more important than our relationships. Without these little learning takes place
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sansanananana
- Moderator
Nov 25 @ 10:10 PM EST
A3 mindfulness and counselling are slowly replacing lunch detentions in our school thankfully
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:10 PM EST
And make it a big deal
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 10:06 PM EST
Confronted yes, but also try to identify the root cause. Catch them being good.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:11 PM EST
Connect before you correct
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. Students will never listen to someone they don't like.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:13 PM EST
Q 4. Do you believe in every student can and will behave decently?
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KSThakral
- Moderator
Nov 25 @ 10:13 PM EST
Behaviour in the end is mostly all about relationships
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sansanananana
- Moderator
Nov 25 @ 10:13 PM EST
I hv once disciplined my class of 11 yr olds by putting up a sheet saying "no of time we fought today" and Ss putting tally marks
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sansanananana
- Moderator
Nov 25 @ 10:15 PM EST
oh yes!!! Only every individual needs to be handled differently. Ss are humans not sheep!
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bakshiaarti
Nov 25 @ 10:15 PM EST
School environment matters
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happy motivated Ts bring about good class room management, Ss mirror what they see not spoken words
KSThakral
- Moderator
Nov 25 @ 10:15 PM EST
Short of medical conditions - yes. All they need is the right environment and people who truly care for them
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:16 PM EST
And they need to know/hear that
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KSThakral
- Moderator
Nov 25 @ 10:15 PM EST
Short of medical conditions - yes. All they need is the right environment and people who truly care for them
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vmatt93
Nov 25 @ 10:16 PM EST
I never discipline a student without first analyzing the behavior that was demonstrated. What caused it? How can it be prevented?
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:06 PM EST
Q3. What are the initiatives for effective discipline taken by you/ your school
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sansanananana
- Moderator
Nov 25 @ 10:16 PM EST
Self realisation is the best remedy to bad behaviour especially in children
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 10:17 PM EST
Can, yes. For everyone? No. All the time? No. Will? No.
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nzvh
Nov 25 @ 10:17 PM EST
@KSThakral
often takes time & space - mindfulness a good approach also
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:09 PM EST
That is the way forward. Also getting kids to articulate why they did what they did, helps understanding their point of view
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NigamKriti
Nov 25 @ 10:17 PM EST
totally agree...
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@KSThakral
quoting..TLC, building relationships, connect, engaged Ss and empathy does wonders
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KSThakral
- Moderator
Nov 25 @ 10:17 PM EST
Yes - but how easily we forget that in a busy school day - setting up systems and forgetting the individual
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:17 PM EST
Invest in the students
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vmatt93
Nov 25 @ 10:16 PM EST
I never discipline a student without first analyzing the behavior that was demonstrated. What caused it? How can it be prevented?
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:06 PM EST
Q3. What are the initiatives for effective discipline taken by you/ your school
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SandyPinedaGSU
Nov 25 @ 10:18 PM EST
A4: Each child will come to school with different behaviors due to diff. backgrounds. Guide each student with diff. approaches.
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 10:18 PM EST
Most of the time, Put I'd include mental health as well
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vmatt93
Nov 25 @ 10:18 PM EST
What outcomes do I want the student to attain? And will the student learn for future reference?
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:06 PM EST
Q3. What are the initiatives for effective discipline taken by you/ your school
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nzvh
Nov 25 @ 10:18 PM EST
have to dash ... great catch up &
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as always - travel safe my friends ka kite ano (until next time)
naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:19 PM EST
Know your students
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SandyPinedaGSU
Nov 25 @ 10:18 PM EST
A4: Each child will come to school with different behaviors due to diff. backgrounds. Guide each student with diff. approaches.
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 10:19 PM EST
Data. Must have Data. We're falling behind the rest of the world
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KSThakral
- Moderator
Nov 25 @ 10:19 PM EST
Leads to the need to have specialists in school too train /support Ts in this area
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SandyPinedaGSU
Nov 25 @ 10:19 PM EST
A3: Safe zones are first created through trust.
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JKatzaman
Nov 25 @ 10:19 PM EST
A4 If given the opportunity and attention, students can respond. But there must be consideration of adverse home environments.
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:20 PM EST
Haha - that made me chuckle
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vmatt93
Nov 25 @ 10:21 PM EST
I believe in the best for my students. I want them all to have equal opportunities to succeed in the classroom.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:13 PM EST
Q 4. Do you believe in every student can and will behave decently?
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:22 PM EST
Q5. "Discipline that restores", what does it means to you? Will you try to change/take few steps towards the alternative way?
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:23 PM EST
Great approach. Always address the behaviour and not the child.
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NigamKriti
Nov 25 @ 10:23 PM EST
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@sansanananana
totally agree, depends on the age-group we are dealing with.primary Ss..Ts-Sp work 2gther
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:24 PM EST
Am missing
@JenaiaMorane
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:24 PM EST
and be a role model for your Ss too
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:23 PM EST
Great approach. Always address the behaviour and not the child.
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vmatt93
Nov 25 @ 10:24 PM EST
My goal for the students is not for them to behave decently but for them to be able and comfortable enough to rely on me.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:13 PM EST
Q 4. Do you believe in every student can and will behave decently?
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:25 PM EST
Thanks Viv. Stay safe. Pleasure as always
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:26 PM EST
Can't ignore the influence of the dysfunctional family side (sometimes).
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PranSang
Nov 25 @ 10:26 PM EST
thanks for joining in Vivek &
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JKatzaman
Nov 25 @ 10:27 PM EST
A5 Discipline that restores might also be discipline that establishes in the case of incorrigibles who had no accepted norm.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:27 PM EST
Which will eventually work on the behavior. Great strategy Matthew
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vmatt93
Nov 25 @ 10:24 PM EST
My goal for the students is not for them to behave decently but for them to be able and comfortable enough to rely on me.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:13 PM EST
Q 4. Do you believe in every student can and will behave decently?
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mrterborg
Nov 25 @ 10:27 PM EST
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Relevant? I think so.
mr_rcollins
Nov 25 @ 9:29 PM EST
Dont Do Something, Just Stand There
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NigamKriti
Nov 25 @ 10:28 PM EST
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@naghma_khn
to bring a change modeling required also active collaboration with parents
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bakshiaarti
Nov 25 @ 10:28 PM EST
true, Ss r in school n under our care for 8 hours,
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Ts make all the difference
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:29 PM EST
So is.
#mindfulness
Stillness can be powerful at times than the need to react.
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participatelrn
Nov 25 @ 10:30 PM EST
Miss
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SandyPinedaGSU
Nov 25 @ 10:30 PM EST
I agree! Also, make sure that it is age appropriate.
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:23 PM EST
Great approach. Always address the behaviour and not the child.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:31 PM EST
Train the brain
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:29 PM EST
So is.
#mindfulness
Stillness can be powerful at times than the need to react.
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bakshiaarti
Nov 25 @ 10:33 PM EST
@KSThakral
@PranSang
thank you for all the healing goodness v r
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@NigamKriti
@sansanananana
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JKatzaman
Nov 25 @ 10:33 PM EST
Just watch out for derailments.
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:33 PM EST
Thank you all for a great chat. Am taking few powerful strategies back to implement
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vmatt93
Nov 25 @ 10:34 PM EST
I believe that this could positively change the classroom atmosphere entirely!
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:22 PM EST
Q5. "Discipline that restores", what does it means to you? Will you try to change/take few steps towards the alternative way?
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:34 PM EST
So suspension not effective - counselling is. Safe zones are impt. We need to model. PD is key & so is sharing practice.
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j_p_r_3
Nov 25 @ 10:35 PM EST
A1 Suspension rarely work, usually leads to further hostility for S, typically suspensions don’t repair harm or relationships
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NigamKriti
Nov 25 @ 10:35 PM EST
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joined late today but as always..inspired..Thank you
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PranSang
Nov 25 @ 10:35 PM EST
Thanks all for joining in on
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& sharing & spl thanks to
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&
@naghma_khn
for some great modding!
#happythanksgiving
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:36 PM EST
Hi James. Glad you could join
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vmatt93
Nov 25 @ 10:36 PM EST
This was an incredible chat! So glad that I was able to participate. Hope to implement these new ideas in the classroom.
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:37 PM EST
and don’t forget thanks to
@PranSang
for always staying away from the limelight despite working the hardest
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vmatt93
Nov 25 @ 10:38 PM EST
Thank you! Much appreciation from Texas!
@KSThakral
,
@naghma_khn
, &
@pran
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:38 PM EST
Thanks for you contributions today. It was great to connect
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:38 PM EST
what happened about our get together? wanted to thank him f2f
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@bakshiaarti
@NigamKriti
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PranSang
Nov 25 @ 10:40 PM EST
who me ? My definition of hard work = hardly work 😀
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NigamKriti
Nov 25 @ 10:40 PM EST
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let us thank eachother face to face🙂
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:41 PM EST
@naghma_khn
@sansanananana
@bakshiaarti
@NigamKriti
I am up for it. Wanna meet up today
@PranSang
#getonaflightlikerightnow
:p
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PranSang
Nov 25 @ 10:42 PM EST
Thanks Matthew for sharing your valuable insights & we hope you make
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#happythanksgiving
vmatt93
Nov 25 @ 10:36 PM EST
This was an incredible chat! So glad that I was able to participate. Hope to implement these new ideas in the classroom.
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PranSang
Nov 25 @ 10:42 PM EST
to Kriti for joining in & finally spelt your name right!
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:42 PM EST
That can arranged. How about next week?
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:44 PM EST
Haha just teasing Pranav. Lets arrange for 3 Dec Any preferred place
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j_p_r_3
Nov 25 @ 10:45 PM EST
A2 Use of restorative questions, small conferences , meetings to identify impact and ways to rebuild relationships are effective
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naghma_khn
Nov 25 @ 10:46 PM EST
Lets do the week after that please. Am busy on the 3rd :(
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:46 PM EST
Thanks
@JKatzaman
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by you as always though
@mrterborg
went away with the chuckle award today. Thank you both.
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:46 PM EST
Yes. Topic Inclusion
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:49 PM EST
10th Dec??
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get together - Location:CP? or DLF Ambience? Time:??
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JKatzaman
Nov 25 @ 10:50 PM EST
Thanks, Sunny. If it helped and made you smile, that's all we can ask.
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KSThakral
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Nov 25 @ 10:53 PM EST
10th Dec - CP Starbucks - Time?
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j_p_r_3
Nov 25 @ 10:55 PM EST
A3 Suspensions are down across our systems, alternatives such as in school, conferences, etc have been used
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j_p_r_3
Nov 25 @ 10:57 PM EST
A3 Use of proactive circles to address small issues is a great way to help minimize the use of suspensions
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