#MASSPchat Archive
Chats will be moderated by MASSP staff, members of the MASSP Board of Directors and MASSP Members – we will also have special guest moderators on occasion.
Monday May 9, 2016
Hello everyone- sorry I am late to moderate ! Let's start w/intros. I'm Wendy Zdeb, MASSP's Exec Director.
Hello, Andy Kowalczyk Bay City Central
Good evening! Steve Carlson, Principal of Sandusky Jr/Sr High School.
I thought my phone was not working!
Scott Pfeiffer, Countryside Academy MS/HS Principal.
. Rockford HS is represented tonight. Katy in the house!!!!!
Hello, Jen Rogers, intern for SpEd Admin in Garden City.
Doug Leisenring, Superintendent of Delta-Schoolcraft ISD hanging around to see what support my local principals need
Hello Andy- Glad to have you here! Congrats on your re-election to the Board! https://t.co/Lq2gceYXhj
Hello, Andy Kowalczyk Bay City Central
Hi Steve- Happy that you're here! https://t.co/GvwtuXOlCg
Good evening! Steve Carlson, Principal of Sandusky Jr/Sr High School.
Hi Scott- So cool that you've been able to join us again! https://t.co/diVYPG7qfL
Scott Pfeiffer, Countryside Academy MS/HS Principal.
Hello Katy- Great Board representation! https://t.co/FAN8JRkvAU
. Rockford HS is represented tonight. Katy in the house!!!!!
Nice to see Supt. Doug L. hanging with the principals. 👍🏻
Scott Turnbow, assistant principal (AD), Grand Blanc East MS
Hello Jen- Welcome! Happy to have you here. https://t.co/2MysCRhlEl
Hello, Jen Rogers, intern for SpEd Admin in Garden City.
Everyone stand...Its a past MASSP Principal of the Year- Mr. Leisenring! https://t.co/I6Nf3pOILt
Doug Leisenring, Superintendent of Delta-Schoolcraft ISD hanging around to see what support my local principals need
I'll try not to stick my foot in my keyboard tonight :)
Hello! Denise Kott, Instructional Coach, Clawson
Hi Scott- Thanks for joining us! https://t.co/UMSJ0LYl1Q
Scott Turnbow, assistant principal (AD), Grand Blanc East MS
Let's get at it! We will use the Q1: and then you respond w/ A1: again tonight.
Q1: How are things doing with your teacher evaluation system? Are there skills you need to improve to give better feedback?
First time in chat while on treadmill-Wish me luck!
Hi Denise- How was "Why I" tonight? Thanks for joining us. https://t.co/83LUwcapwy
Hello! Denise Kott, Instructional Coach, Clawson
LOL - I owe that recognition to , and . I'll never forget that. :) https://t.co/Bj1QQGlvAq
Everyone stand...Its a past MASSP Principal of the Year- Mr. Leisenring! https://t.co/I6Nf3pOILt
Doug Leisenring, Superintendent of Delta-Schoolcraft ISD hanging around to see what support my local principals need
A1: I attempt to get Walkthrough feedback in mailboxes that same day.
A1: Year 2 of 5D, still kinks to work out & skills to improve on my end but such an improvement over past https://t.co/neT9Dmjw7n
Q1: How are things doing with your teacher evaluation system? Are there skills you need to improve to give better feedback?
A1 - My local principals are asking for more assistance with Pivot. Are other principals asking for more Pivot training?
Nice! Do you use a form of some kind or is that written feedback? https://t.co/qPjNXHdcSc
A1: I attempt to get Walkthrough feedback in mailboxes that same day.
"Why I" was great! Chris Wigent was our speaker! Your inspiring speech was referenced several times too!
A2: if I can't get official document back that day, I at least share FB on a post-it!
We found Pivot to be pretty intuitive for the obs/feedback but have not used many adv features https://t.co/6WK51poVSY
A1 - My local principals are asking for more assistance with Pivot. Are other principals asking for more Pivot training?
A1: 1st year with Thoughtful Classroom. I've learned a lot!
We have an electronic format in Ohio
Funny you say that! We have webinars planned & we are also weaving it more into framework training. https://t.co/f4DnUlfuXE
A1 - My local principals are asking for more assistance with Pivot. Are other principals asking for more Pivot training?
Great! Is the learning curve the framework or the process on your end? https://t.co/KkDeov7DjW
A1: 1st year with Thoughtful Classroom. I've learned a lot!
. A1 Staff do appreciate same day feedback so I always release walk through and observation notes same day.
Great- teachers really appreciate that more immediate feedback. I remember waiting weeks when I was a T. https://t.co/9fNmthiEAW
A2: if I can't get official document back that day, I at least share FB on a post-it!
The Yoopers in Region 1 will appreciate that. :) https://t.co/iD0Zz4Rkrf
Funny you say that! We have webinars planned & we are also weaving it more into framework training. https://t.co/f4DnUlfuXE
A1 - My local principals are asking for more assistance with Pivot. Are other principals asking for more Pivot training?
A1: I have teachers using the coding in observations with the rubrics as a reflection tool. What indicators are observed or not.
Good work! Extra bonus points for that as an AP- constant fires for you too I bet. https://t.co/bGfHPSW7JJ
. A1 Staff do appreciate same day feedback so I always release walk through and observation notes same day.
Both for sure! More comfortable with framework, see ways to be more efficient going forward.
Q2: What domains or dimensions of the evaluation framework will you focus on with your staff for next year?
A2: We will add Purpose, Assessment, and Curriculm/Ped next year and will focus on them in that order https://t.co/r4ggJq8w4K
Q2: What domains or dimensions of the evaluation framework will you focus on with your staff for next year?
BAM! https://t.co/iin1jSxg81
fires all the time but I am trying to show that instruction is most important so I have to model that
A2: We would like to work hard in Domain 3 of the Danielson model. Always looking for student engagement.
All great adds! I personally love Purpose and Assessment (its all formative) great stuff. https://t.co/0Yk4N44fMM
A2: We will add Purpose, Assessment, and Curriculm/Ped next year and will focus on them in that order https://t.co/r4ggJq8w4K
Q2: What domains or dimensions of the evaluation framework will you focus on with your staff for next year?
So many great articles w/ideas to increase engagement out there. Do you have staff exchange ideas? https://t.co/Mk4670puYa
A2: We would like to work hard in Domain 3 of the Danielson model. Always looking for student engagement.
A2: Again, after reflection on patterns seen in observations, I'm hoping teachers will be able to focus on areas that they chose.
Very powerful to focus on the codes & demonstrated evidence...what will take my practice to next level? https://t.co/jyNKYcop7M
A1: I have teachers using the coding in observations with the rubrics as a reflection tool. What indicators are observed or not.
Each department presents at a staff meeting, sharing ideas and engagement sometimes occurs. https://t.co/HpqR8SjZDI
So many great articles w/ideas to increase engagement out there. Do you have staff exchange ideas? https://t.co/Mk4670puYa
A2: We would like to work hard in Domain 3 of the Danielson model. Always looking for student engagement.
A1: Great conversations in post-obs mtgs w/ new Ts, using 5D student & teacher observables to guide T reflection
I'm excited to hear that this is driving the area of focus (as it should)- powerful change in practice. https://t.co/ZFQ2fLHfVE
A2: Again, after reflection on patterns seen in observations, I'm hoping teachers will be able to focus on areas that they chose.
We have Jedi Master coming to the Thumb on 8/30 to cover both those dimensions. Will be great! https://t.co/H9PNf4Em0r
All great adds! I personally love Purpose and Assessment (its all formative) great stuff. https://t.co/0Yk4N44fMM
A2: We will add Purpose, Assessment, and Curriculm/Ped next year and will focus on them in that order https://t.co/r4ggJq8w4K
Q2: What domains or dimensions of the evaluation framework will you focus on with your staff for next year?
Braille is the predominant second language in literacy.
Hi, All! Jenni Thunberg, AP, BCC just checking in for a minute to grab some info.
My gen ed and special ed staff are trying to note in PD sessions with local teachers/principals where the material aligns in 5D+.
Awesome. They really need that structured feedback- good job. https://t.co/yR3ArkkX0U
A1: Great conversations in post-obs mtgs w/ new Ts, using 5D student & teacher observables to guide T reflection
Hi Jenni! Thanks for the check in. https://t.co/7bJcMkfeUy
Hi, All! Jenni Thunberg, AP, BCC just checking in for a minute to grab some info.
Fantastic. Resources and supports from the ISD are really needed! https://t.co/U3bd8VSmHo
My gen ed and special ed staff are trying to note in PD sessions with local teachers/principals where the material aligns in 5D+.
Q3: How can you support the improvement of instructional practice for all teachers (new, vets, struggling, etc.)?
A3: Sandwich an area for improvement between 2 positive things seen.
Q3: CO admin working on making T and L the main focus. If accountability if student learning, it must me the focus thru the org
A3: Self-evals, help to select focus areas in their zone of prox development, and better feedback https://t.co/USKFZiJZCq
Q3: How can you support the improvement of instructional practice for all teachers (new, vets, struggling, etc.)?
Always a good technique! https://t.co/cCrhyN9fC8
A3: Sandwich an area for improvement between 2 positive things seen.
A3: The better the teacher, the deeper the conversation needs to be. Finding growth edges can be tricky.
Important to set goals and revisit often. Having game plan to start yr is imperative https://t.co/Zy5kIahkwZ
Q3: How can you support the improvement of instructional practice for all teachers (new, vets, struggling, etc.)?
YES! Thank you for that Paul! Principal Support Framework is great. https://t.co/CbzEkEMn33
Q3: CO admin working on making T and L the main focus. If accountability if student learning, it must me the focus thru the org
That's what I love about the rigor of the new frameworks- even all stars have a place they can focus. https://t.co/AJLUZwLFJJ
A3: The better the teacher, the deeper the conversation needs to be. Finding growth edges can be tricky.
A3: Ohio has a Reinforcement and Refinement component of TE. Walkthroughs are also a part of every process.
BAM! And providing time for reflection during PD or staff mtg time. https://t.co/Pi9DpRIsi8
Important to set goals and revisit often. Having game plan to start yr is imperative https://t.co/Zy5kIahkwZ
Q3: How can you support the improvement of instructional practice for all teachers (new, vets, struggling, etc.)?
Toughest to go from good to great! Best Ts have that inner drive to constantly improve https://t.co/zQz6x6oEhN
A3: The better the teacher, the deeper the conversation needs to be. Finding growth edges can be tricky.
A3: Focus on students' needs. Instructional practices have to meet the needs of the learners.
A3: Meet them where they are! Be supportive, understanding, trustworthy & honest. Provide feedback and resources. Walk the talk!
Interesting. I like those terms. https://t.co/IU4Z9DL30Q
A3: Ohio has a Reinforcement and Refinement component of TE. Walkthroughs are also a part of every process.
Yes! What T skill (if improved) will most impact student learning? https://t.co/u9ennq59UB
A3: Focus on students' needs. Instructional practices have to meet the needs of the learners.
Agreed! I also really like having teachers visit others who are strong in the area of focus. https://t.co/iAILkGpCBq
A3: Meet them where they are! Be supportive, understanding, trustworthy & honest. Provide feedback and resources. Walk the talk!
BAM! https://t.co/RRf1Fx3xq8
Toughest to go from good to great! Best Ts have that inner drive to constantly improve https://t.co/zQz6x6oEhN
A3: The better the teacher, the deeper the conversation needs to be. Finding growth edges can be tricky.
This is a challenge for a new admin in training. Do you have any strategies to identifying these "growth edges?"
Q4: Were you pleased with the progress you made on your SIP goals this year? Where will you focus for the 2016-17 school year?
Totally agree! All teachers can benefit from observing others, especially when there's an outstanding model!
A3: Support imp of instruction:
Personalize PD
Offer quality feedback
Make it relevant
Provide resources/support
Accountability
Yes, we always go back to scripted evidence & look for areas that can be shifted up the rubric. https://t.co/BfXYASxphs
This is a challenge for a new admin in training. Do you have any strategies to identifying these "growth edges?"
The 10,000 hour rule. It just takes time and practice. I know I still have room to improve!
Hello Connie! Way to jump in and make is sound easy! :) https://t.co/ewbUeQbmFh
A3: Support imp of instruction:
Personalize PD
Offer quality feedback
Make it relevant
Provide resources/support
Accountability
we have Ts do 6 peer observations a yr using a scaled down rubric from 5D. All can learn from @ other. https://t.co/hwNwuLjEZb
Q3: How can you support the improvement of instructional practice for all teachers (new, vets, struggling, etc.)?
A4: implemented 5D this year CEC and SE. Next year we roll out purpose and assessment. Two BIGGIES, but relevant for all.
Teacher self-evals! Have Ts examine language of rubric indicators & identify where they can improve
Why scaled down rubric? You mean some dimensions?
What's the 10,000 rule? Who has 10,000 hours? https://t.co/CSv5RF3gEq
The 10,000 hour rule. It just takes time and practice. I know I still have room to improve!
I would love to see the scaled-down rubric
BAM! Fantastic. Gotta love that positive culture in Grayling! https://t.co/GyAzvzbORe
we have Ts do 6 peer observations a yr using a scaled down rubric from 5D. All can learn from @ other. https://t.co/hwNwuLjEZb
Q3: How can you support the improvement of instructional practice for all teachers (new, vets, struggling, etc.)?
our HS staff were reluctant to try classroom learning labs. Now they love them! Such a great growth tool
That's really cool Donna! https://t.co/7s9DquSdjS
we have Ts do 6 peer observations a yr using a scaled down rubric from 5D. All can learn from @ other. https://t.co/hwNwuLjEZb
Q3: How can you support the improvement of instructional practice for all teachers (new, vets, struggling, etc.)?
La la la...I can't hear you...don't talk about a scaled down rubric! https://t.co/bmCFYAZyMY
I would love to see the scaled-down rubric
they're comfortable looking for LT, SC, and student engagement and give feedback. They reflect together afterward
Sounds like a great webline or a breakout at a conference. I'd love to hear about that. https://t.co/paReqCATKE
our HS staff were reluctant to try classroom learning labs. Now they love them! Such a great growth tool
Outliers, by Malcolm Gladwell. To get good at anything, it takes a lot of time and effort, long story short
A4: Many past goals focused on ACT data. Our SIP needs to include more measures--SLO & 5D for example https://t.co/pnWx3J9cbS
Q4: Were you pleased with the progress you made on your SIP goals this year? Where will you focus for the 2016-17 school year?
P & A will transform teaching. Atten. to L targets, success criteria a mind form. assess was impactful in BPS
Q4: Were you pleased with the progress staff made on SIP goals this year? Where will you focus for the 2016-17 school year?
Great- I'm excited to dig into the SAT results in the same EPAS format. https://t.co/suFPAhqtlD
A4: Many past goals focused on ACT data. Our SIP needs to include more measures--SLO & 5D for example https://t.co/pnWx3J9cbS
Q4: Were you pleased with the progress you made on your SIP goals this year? Where will you focus for the 2016-17 school year?
BAM! Agreed- central to teaching & learning...that formative assessment & adjustment is right behind it. https://t.co/TjQOQkXeYv
P & A will transform teaching. Atten. to L targets, success criteria a mind form. assess was impactful in BPS
But couldn't Ts just be focusing on some of the indicators in peer obs?? Like just the LT/SC in purpose, for instance?
