#swarmfbchat Archive

The ONLY defensive-themed chat on Twitter! Talking all things Defense and Game Planning. Tuesdays at 9pm EST.

Tuesday November 20, 2018
9:00 PM EST

  • rmacblue - Moderator Nov 20 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Good Evening Coaches and welcome to tonight's #swarmfbchat Tonight we visit with the DL gurus! So, get comfy for the next 30+ minutes. Intro yourselves and follow someone new. Be sure to use the hashtag in all responses. Like and RT for max exposure.
  • rmacblue - Moderator Nov 20 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Ryan McCartney - DC at Salem HS, Indiana Host of #swarmfbchat 21 year coaching vet
  • CoachWelden Nov 20 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Mike Welden. DC, Grafton High School. ILB coach #swarmfbchat
  • CoachMocahbee Nov 20 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Ben Mocahbee D Line coach West Clermont HS Cincinnati, Oh #swarmfbchat
  • Coach__French Nov 20 @ 9:02 PM EST
    #swarmfbchat Cody French Elkhart Central High School Defensive Coordinator and more importantly DLINE Coach
  • CoachRmcD60 Nov 20 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Ryan McDonald OC Indian Creek HS Trafalgar IN #swarmfbchat
  • TonyAcito Nov 20 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Tony Acito...DL coach at Archbishop Moeller High School in Cincinnati....27 years experience #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDuda Nov 20 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Alex Duda Defensive Coordinator Dearborn HS (Dearborn, MI) #swarmfbchat
  • CoachPierskalla Nov 20 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Andy Pierskalla DC- Osseo HS- MN D. Good to see you all again!#swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Nov 20 @ 9:04 PM EST
    We will use the customary Q1/A1 format. Again, please use #swarmfbchat in all tweets so I can like/RT responses. Looking forward to learning tonight.
  • mikestauffer Nov 20 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Mike Stauffer, Riverside Poly, SoCal #swarmfbchat
  • MTCoachBerry Nov 20 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Wayne Berry - DC - Billings Central Catholic High School, Billings, MT #swarmfbchat
  • CODY_GARDNER Nov 20 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Cody Gardner DC/LB but DL to my core!!! Park City Miners Park City, Ut #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Nov 20 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Q1: What do you preach when it comes to stance - which hand goes down? Where is the off hand? Balanced vs Staggered feet? Flex in which areas of the lower body? #swarmfbchat
  • CoachCCase Nov 20 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Cody Case, LB coach, Riverside Military Academy in Gainesville, GA. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachRmcD60 Nov 20 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1 I have always been a man Hand down. In terms of stance a lot depends on what you are asking them to do slant and move more balanced, and pressure up field can be a little more staggered #swarmfbchat
  • CoachWelden Nov 20 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1: gap hand down, other hand ready to rip or punch, balances stance #swarmfbchat
  • MTCoachBerry Nov 20 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: We put the inside hand down, with feet slightly staggered inside foot back. Get their rear up above their shoulders. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachMocahbee Nov 20 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: Biggest points are shade hand down, staggered stance for odd techs and even stance for even techs, off hand should be in front and ready to go but for sure off the leg! Butt in the air #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Nov 20 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: My old man gave me some good advice...unless it is causing an issue, don't spend too much time on which hand is up/down or the feet. However, the down hand must be extended in front of the helmet and the off hand should be a good 6 inches away from the facemask #swarmfbchat
  • Coach__French Nov 20 @ 9:11 PM EST
    #swarmfbchat A1 I am an advocate of the balanced stance. It allows the players to explode in either direction while reacting to the block. The SINGLE most important thing is that you balance the players comfort with ability to execute.
  • CoachCCase Nov 20 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1: Honestly, I'm not married to any particular stance. Whatever makes the player comfortable while still being able to play low with powerful hands. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDuda Nov 20 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1: Run Stance: Feet shoulder width apart; Toe to Mid Foot Stagger. Butt up with a flat back. Off hand out ready to strike. Good knee bend with your weight going forward. #swarmfbchat
  • TonyAcito Nov 20 @ 9:12 PM EST
    I am not too big on particulars when it comes to stance other than all my guys must play right and left handed due to the power hand being down. The power hand splits the crotch of the offensive lineman depending on what side of the ball #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Nov 20 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Feel free to ask follow up questions - this is your time! #swarmfbchat
  • CODY_GARDNER Nov 20 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1) Shade hand ideally, not too worried about it. I like the stance pretty compact, slight stagger. I want the up leg knee under the chest and taking as much of the ball as we can. All offside by a couple inches is perfect. Off hand ready to punch, loose and low #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDuda Nov 20 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1: Pass Stance. Narrow Stance (Track Sprinter Stance). Toe to Heel Stagger. Off hand out ready to Slap/Club/etc. I teach them to gain as much ground as possible with staggered foot (replace down hand). #swarmfbchat
  • TonyAcito Nov 20 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Ex. 3 tech to the left of the center will have right hand down. Opposite hand out in front. Feet are even since we are a read front. Legs in what we call Z look. We stagger on Jet and if we play head up, either hand down works #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Nov 20 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Q2: When coming off the ball/out of your stance, what are you teaching as far as footwork, hand placement, eyes? Any good drills to share (and coaching points)? #swarmfbchat
  • mikestauffer Nov 20 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1 Gave up on the "perfect stance". As long as they could get off fast and GATA with low pad level, I'm good. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDiG Nov 20 @ 9:15 PM EST
    @rmacblue Vince DiGaetano Head Football Coach @NYMaritimeFB #swarmfbchat
  • MTCoachBerry Nov 20 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A2: We want a quick step with our inside foot. Hands hitting aiming points, inside hand to chest plate, outside to bicep. Second foot going in the direction of gap gaining ground in the direction of our movement and getting back in the ground ASAP. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CODY_GARDNER Nov 20 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A2) Our singular focus is getting our hand placement. If we get off hard and fast focused on hand placement, we play base, down and reach far better. #swarmfbchat
  • TonyAcito Nov 20 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A2 6 inch power step. Inside hand should split the number' outside hand on shoulder. Eyes key the V of the o lineman. Hands follow eyes #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDiG Nov 20 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A1: near hand down and deliver with same hand same foot. Have toyed with off hands for some skill sets. Stagger in stance want to be able to drive off plant foot #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachMocahbee Nov 20 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2 Hands on chest and bicep, aim small miss small, foot placement is based off mirroring their key read. We use @TonyAcito mirror drill a lot for this! And lev sled for firing the hands with great hips. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachRmcD60 Nov 20 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2 man hand right down sternum gap hand control shoulder pad curve outside of number. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDuda Nov 20 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2: The Key is the near hip of the OL. We read the hip & react based on the type of block. Hand Placement changes based on type of block. (Ex: Base Block we punch w/Inside hand on the sternum & outside hand under arm pit; grabbing cloth & lockout). #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Nov 20 @ 9:14 PM EST
      Q2: When coming off the ball/out of your stance, what are you teaching as far as footwork, hand placement, eyes? Any good drills to share (and coaching points)? #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDuda Nov 20 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2: The Key is the near hip of the OL. We read the hip & react based on the type of block. Hand Placement changes based on type of block. (Ex: Base Block we punch w/Inside hand on the sternum & outside hand under arm pit; grabbing cloth & lockout). #swarmfbchat
  • CoachCCase Nov 20 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2: six inch power step, hands inside (to throw and maintain gap control), eyes to their read that particular week. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachWelden Nov 20 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2: depends on tech. In our tough or hands on tech we replace gap hand and get second step down as quick as possible (angle tech) we are almost Zone stepping and attack inside gap, eyes key guards outside shoulder #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Nov 20 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Q3: How do you work drills that help with transitioning from playing the run to a pass rush? Is it a pre-snap read? Part of down and distance stance/alignment? #swarmfbchat
  • mikestauffer Nov 20 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2 Target man we're shaded on. If target shows, strike and extend, hips in gap. If target disappears, bend. Target pass sets, attack. I want to play FAST, play with low pad level and ATTACK #swarmfbchat
  • Coach__French Nov 20 @ 9:21 PM EST
    #swarmfbchat A2 1: Get your second step in the ground! It's where all your power is 2. VIOLENT hands. Preach violence before accuracy or aiming points and preach the GRAB! For some reason they'll want to smack instead of grab. Pisses me all the way off. 3. Eyes on key
  • CoachRmcD60 Nov 20 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Side bar: anyone have any good Indy drills they want to share on reading keys and also pass rush techniques #swarmfbchat
  • CODY_GARDNER Nov 20 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Am I the only guy who doesn't get made when his line jumps, as long as the fire their hands? I come unhinged when a kid can jump off and not touch the Oline....HOW IS IT POSSIBLE?!?!!? #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDuda Nov 20 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2: We do a lot of Key Drills early on in the Summer. Read & React. A lot of walk thru / 50% / 100% Progressions. Film study also helps with reads. Having the kids understand WHY we play reads with different techniques really helps with their progression. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachCCase Nov 20 @ 9:23 PM EST
    #Swarmfbchat ☝🏼☝🏼
  • CoachRmcD60 Nov 20 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A3 teach reads off of snap gets a pass set transition to a rush #swarmfbchat
  • CoachWelden Nov 20 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A3: we need to get better at this!!! Really good at playing run but bad at transitioning, do we need to focus on more hand fighting and counters ? #swarmfbchat
  • Coach__French Nov 20 @ 9:23 PM EST
    #swarmfbchat A3 I want my kids worrying about playing the run at all times. If we want to get to the quarterback we will bring an extra man. Stop the run. We have a call for when I think they are going to pass that tells our kids it's time to go and to play pass first.
  • MTCoachBerry Nov 20 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A3: We have our front 90% run stop mode. Once they recognize pass, clear the hands, and go. When we do want pass rush, we give a "razor" call getting the ends wider and butts higher up in the air with forward lean. Use Tosh Lupoi's teaching when at Cal. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • rmacblue - Moderator Nov 20 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Q4: Spill vs Squeeze - might be a scheme thing, but how do you teach the one you prefer? What are the top 2 coaching points? #swarmfbchat
  • TonyAcito Nov 20 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A3 We stress the V of the o lineman...4 directions...right left which put us in run phase at 1 yard down the line (gap expansion) a 0 read is when o lineman comes straight off the ball this equals single gap responsibility #swarmfbchat
  • mikestauffer Nov 20 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A3 Work key reads over and over and over and over! Target can do one of 3 things, come at me, disappear (block away) or pass set. It's a personnel group and down & distance thing. #swarmfbchat
  • CODY_GARDNER Nov 20 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A3) Again, get off!!! Best get offs have the quickest transition. Don't look, don't think, FEEL blocks, pass sets feel like pass sets, play pass. Base feels like base, play base #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDiG Nov 20 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A2: foot replaces hand to keep everything level eyes through the outside v of the neck to see through the blocker hand placement in the offset of chest and cuff #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachCCase Nov 20 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A3: I want my guys to play the run first all the time. But through the week we work tendencies, d&d, and always rep screens, even if the opponent hasn't shown it on film. There is nothing worse in life than getting beat on a screen. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachMocahbee Nov 20 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A4 spill for sure, trap the trapper and make the run bounce out but it must be violent! If we catch when trying to spill, it kills the defense #swarmfbchat
  • MTCoachBerry Nov 20 @ 9:28 PM EST
    I love this. 100% truth with attitude! #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @Coach__French
  • CODY_GARDNER Nov 20 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A4)Spill. This year we were skinny but athletic, best job or wrong arming and getting vertical thru it. Tip of the cap to our kid and DL coach. They wrong arm everyday. Gotta love the dirty work. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDiG Nov 20 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A3: work off initial contact to feel the o lineman drop the hips and react on normal downs #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachWelden Nov 20 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A4: 34 our dl spill and OLB squeeze/ box (dl) will wring arm or rip under thigh board of block, our dl coach does a great job of repping the crap out of this on bags, OL are getting better at a quick punch and then clear ok trap though #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Nov 20 @ 9:29 PM EST
    We've got 4 Questions floating around out there - feel free to keep sharing your thoughts. #swarmfbchat
  • MTCoachBerry Nov 20 @ 9:31 PM EST
    When you are getting rid of hands, it needs to be violent. We say break the elbow. Then clear your inside hand through with a punch or rip to get your hip cleared through the gap and square up to the LOS to get to QB. #swarmfbchat #violent
    In reply to @CoachWelden
  • TonyAcito Nov 20 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A4 Spill at 1 yard. We wrong arm but try to work through the spill. Never trade 1 for 1. We also have Sponge which means to spill over the top and force the back underneath. We use this in sprint out or when in automatic contain #swarmfbchat
  • CoachCCase Nov 20 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A4: I like my ends to squeeze. I teach the push/pull technique to avoid the reach block. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachWelden Nov 20 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A4: OLB will box: has to be an aggressive force and take air out of the play #swarmfbchat
  • Coach__French Nov 20 @ 9:31 PM EST
    #swarmfbchat A4 We "slow play" and spill pullers. If the end notices hes being read he'll slow play and eliminate the gap. If he isn't being read he finds the puller and spills it.
  • TonyAcito Nov 20 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A4 Most important aspect of the spill....get your butt in the gap they want to run the ball in!!@ #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDuda Nov 20 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A4. Squeeze. Our DE’s are rarely Contain players. They Read Down Block & Squeeze OL. They play flat down the LOS (Fighting for Inside Leverage) & Wrongarm (Dip outside arm & rip across) the pulling OL. After Wrongarm, I teach them to get vertical. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachCCase Nov 20 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A4 cont: One stance I was taught by @RmaCoachP that I'll continue to use in the future is to put the ends in a 2 point stance, butt to the sidelines so that he can see everything from the get-go. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @RmaCoachP
  • rmacblue - Moderator Nov 20 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Always a pleasure to bring you the Tuesday night #swarmfbchat Thanks for joining in and sharing. I get way too distracted to answer my own Qs, but I love to look back and steal ideas!
  • CoachDuda Nov 20 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A4. Spill. Our DE’s are rarely Contain players. They Read Down Block & Squeeze OL. They play flat down the LOS (Fighting for Inside Leverage) & Wrongarm (Dip outside arm & rip across) the pulling OL. After Wrongarm, I teach them to get vertical off OL’s Hip. #swarmfbchat
  • MTCoachBerry Nov 20 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A4: We are a squeeze team. Hit your aiming points and drive him into the gap, leaning with your inside arm. Stay square to LOS. If you can be square and OL gets turned towards the sideline, we have won, but work to get OT compressed down into inside gap. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachDuda Nov 20 @ 9:37 PM EST
    As always, great job by @rmacblue for organizing tonight’s #swarmfbchat. It’s never too early to start talking technique/scheme of the #Dawgs.
  • rmacblue - Moderator Nov 20 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Remind your DL: when your focus is small, so are your errors. #swarmfbchat
  • coachwi1l Nov 20 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A4. B-gap players spill 4 us. C-gap players "box" it. Spill tech is rip thru i/s armpit and climb. Box tech is squeeze the down blk, anchor o/s leg and bang the outside half of puller. #swarmfbchat
  • TonyAcito Nov 20 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Hope some of what I said helps...you guys are always welcome at Moeller ! #swarmfbchat
  • CODY_GARDNER Nov 20 @ 9:39 PM EST
    We introduced specific aiming points for pass rush, its something we have to do a better job teaching and doing. Anyone do this? #swarmfbchat
  • clayton_morris Nov 20 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A1: I used to be concerned with which is proper stance based on the side of the line you were. Here recently, I’m more concerned with player comfort. I want them to play fast. As long as they are doing their job and playing fast, I don’t mess with it much. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachFonville Nov 20 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A4: really depends on the ends I have on which one I like. Bigger slower ends I like to wrong shoulder and spill. T STEPS down push him down look for pull. Faster smaller ends read first step and go! Step down tighter angle step out get outside angle. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CODY_GARDNER Nov 20 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Nose: near eye of QB Ends: near ear of QB #swarmfbchat
  • clayton_morris Nov 20 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A2: We teach hands and near foot through the near “V”. Eyes go through that “V” to the ball. We really focus on this with our DEs. Interior lineman may change week to week. #swarmfbchat
  • clayton_morris Nov 20 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A3: We are run stoppers first! We react to pass 2nd. UNLESS we get a hard tendency by formation or situation (down/distance;certain player alignment; etc). We may also see a change in stance by OL. #swarmfbchat
  • MTCoachBerry Nov 20 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Ends are outside hip of the deepest or widest back. NT just hit him as bloody hard as you can! #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @CODY_GARDNER
  • clayton_morris Nov 20 @ 9:49 PM EST
    @rmacblue A4: We teach spill. This year we started focusing on this a lot earlier in the preseason than normal. Repetition is key. Simple formations at first, then get more complex. We harp initial step to the “V” and spill trap ASAP! (Scheme thing) #swarmfbchat
  • CoachCason1 Nov 20 @ 9:57 PM EST
    #swarmfbchat Thumbs up, elbows locked, eyes on the key (near HIP). Aiming point with hands is the key (Hips). Which means they will truthfully get their hands around the bottom of the numbers. Expecting a “Block to” every time and pushing pressure back where it came from.
    In reply to @rmacblue