#TCMchat Archive
Wednesday October 12, 2016
9:00 PM EDT
pearse_margie
Oct 12 @ 9:00 PM EDT
#TCMchat
Hi! Margie from PA. K-12 Math Coach
MutchmorMath
Oct 12 @ 9:00 PM EDT
@aprilpfortsiowa
#TCMchat
expect to learn and be wowed by the collective brilliance of passionate educators who love to learn!
MikeRashidMath
Oct 12 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Hello,
#TCMChat
! I'm Mike from Central PA. Elem Math Coach
MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:00 PM EDT
@MrSmiths_Eagles
Welcome Andy! Yeah for another 5th grade teacher!
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StacyGasteiger
Oct 12 @ 9:00 PM EDT
@MikeRashidMath
Hi Mike, Where in central PA? I teach in Selinsgrove.
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MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:00 PM EDT
@ChrisKalmbach
Hey Chris! Welcome! Glad to see you here!
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mrsperryd
Oct 12 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Hello. I am Debbie Perry from South Florida. I teach K - 5 math lab.
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MeganMSnow
Oct 12 @ 9:01 PM EDT
I'm Megan Snow, 7-12 math coach from Yarmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada.
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TCM_at_NCTM
- Moderator
Oct 12 @ 9:01 PM EDT
@aprilpfortsiowa
Things will move quickly. Just relax & enjoy. There will be a recap tomorrow to catch anything that goes by 2 fast
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zack_hill
Oct 12 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Hi, I'm Zack from Florida, K-5 Math Coach.
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ms_dennis45
Oct 12 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Hi! I'm Nakysha. Middle school math coach
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susieqteacher
Oct 12 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Hi I am Susan, math dean in Rockford Illinois
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TCM_at_NCTM
- Moderator
Oct 12 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Please welcome the authors of “Assessing Students’ Understanding of Fraction Multiplication”
#TCMchat
https://t.co/P6fS7f8QqV
BCCTM1
Oct 12 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Sheldon Jordan, Match Coach from Florida
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TCM_at_NCTM
- Moderator
Oct 12 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Welcome
@MathMinds
We are so glad that you are here
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megyzr
Oct 12 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Marhaba from Dubai! I'm Megan - teaching & learning coach Pk-G8
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tmchiepp
Oct 12 @ 9:02 PM EDT
#TCMchat
Toni Chieppa, 5th grade math teacher, Ormond Beach, Florida
jody_guarino
Oct 12 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@ChepinaRumsey
Hi Chepina, Great to see you!
#TCMchat
MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@aprilpfortsiowa
If you follow the
#TCMchat
hashtag, you will see the questions pop up. You just answer w/the hashtag & read along!
ShelbiCole1
Oct 12 @ 9:02 PM EDT
I'm Shelbi Cole, math specialist at SAP and past director of mathematics for smarter balanced
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Rhombi_Doc
Oct 12 @ 9:02 PM EDT
I'm Rebecca, a panel member of
@MTMS_at_NCTM
, excited about tonight's
#TCMchat
-greetings from Mississippi State University
Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Zak Champagne here - researcher at FCR-STEM at
@floridastate
. Excited to be joining everyone!
#TCMchat
jody_guarino
Oct 12 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@msaxby
Hi Morgan, Great to see you!
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TCM_at_NCTM
- Moderator
Oct 12 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hi
@jody_guarino
it is so nice to have you with us for this
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MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@TCM_at_NCTM
Excited to be here! Thanks for hosting us!
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MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@Zakchamp
Hey there Zak!!
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MrJ_2014
Oct 12 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Sheldon Jordan, Match Coach from Florida
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FloradTeach
Oct 12 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Peeking in for a bit
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Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:03 PM EDT
What's up FL. peeps?!
@tmchiepp
@zack_hill
@BCCTM1
@MrJ_2014
#TCMChat
jody_guarino
Oct 12 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@TCM_at_NCTM
Excited to join the conversation!
#TCMchat
TCM_at_NCTM
- Moderator
Oct 12 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Welcome
@msaxby
sorry, we didn't have your Twitter handle to add to the slide. We are glad you are here
#TCMchat
jody_guarino
Oct 12 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@ShelbiCole1
Hi Shelbi, Nice to see you!
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Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@MathMinds
Thanks for bringing the crew with you tonight!
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AnnEliseRecord
Oct 12 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Ann Elise, Math Specialist from NH
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Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:05 PM EDT
I missed
@mrsperryd
in my Florida shout out tweet! Glad you are here Debbie!
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GochnourBethany
Oct 12 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Bethany. K Teacher. Looking forward to learning...
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MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:06 PM EDT
A1: I find the Learning Progression invaluable in really seeing the trajectory of different concepts:
https://t.co/vI9RHVtG0m
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susieqteacher
Oct 12 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1 we have a team of teachers who head a curriculum leadership team for k-5math
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jmbconnors
Oct 12 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Jenna Connors K-4 Math/Sci Specialist from Newtown, CT
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TCM_at_NCTM
- Moderator
Oct 12 @ 9:07 PM EDT
WOW! We've got a big crowd with us tonight. This is exciting.
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MutchmorMath
Oct 12 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1 discussing and debat are part of the practice of reflecting on content knowledge, pedagogy and pedagogy for math instruction
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MFAnnie
Oct 12 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Annie from
@themathforum
near Philly. Hi, everyone!
#TCMchat
poly_math_
Oct 12 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Hi All. I'm the chair of
@MTMS_at_NCTM
. Excited to be here to support
@TCM_at_NCTM
#TCMchat
ShelbiCole1
Oct 12 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A lot of fellow Floridians here. See you at FCTM!
#TCMchat
pearse_margie
Oct 12 @ 9:07 PM EDT
#TCMchat
A1: Grade level groups meet Fridays for PLC time & planning
Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@ShelbiCole1
You bet! Gonna be a good year!
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susieqteacher
Oct 12 @ 9:08 PM EDT
The leadership team trained in learning targets and essential learning outcomes
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MrSmiths_Eagles
Oct 12 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1 - monthly math PLC meetings to discuss, but always looking to improve that time we have together
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goddard_dorothy
Oct 12 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Hi Dorothy here from Winnipeg too! Love teaching math to students.
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MrJ_2014
Oct 12 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: Using the Learning Progressions & Standards, we turn them into Performance Scales
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Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: I'm currently meeting once a week with a group of G2 teachers in Tallahassee using a framework involving student thinking.
#TCMChat
tmchiepp
Oct 12 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: Literature Review; Progressions Document, Learning Trajectories, CC in a PLC at Work
#TCMchat
Clements, Dixon, Zimba
MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@pearse_margie
Awesome Margie! What resources do you think are most important for Ts to dig into the math?
#TCMchat
MutchmorMath
Oct 12 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 making connections within the content of math curriculum to prior learning as well as what comes next...
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AnnEliseRecord
Oct 12 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: We have common planning time mtg for each gradelevel each wk. We alternate weeks of ELA and Math. I facilitate the meetings.
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jmbconnors
Oct 12 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 PLCs focused on teaching and learning, curriculum, and pd
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susieqteacher
Oct 12 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Lots of discussion, ideas and collaboration but finding the time to get the masses in board is tough
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zack_hill
Oct 12 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 Use collaborative planning to pick apart the language of the standard for what S's need to know, understand, and be able to do.
#TCMchat
MsElikwu
Oct 12 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: Using the K U Ds of Understanding By Design and looking at the vertical alignment. Both equally help w/ breaking down standards
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ShelbiCole1
Oct 12 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: when sbac initiated project we chose major work
https://t.co/Z8GOzih580
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MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@Zakchamp
What framework do you use Zak?
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drkchilds
Oct 12 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 understanding the progressions Doc is key esp as it relates to 'building' upon prior know opposed to treating Ss as blank slates
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MFAnnie
Oct 12 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@Zakchamp
Is it a "share-able" framework, or something you are making up as you go?
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megyzr
Oct 12 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1: regular GL mtgs; begin w learning targets (stdrd-based system), discuss "how" and "why" of concepts identified by me or team
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MrSmiths_Eagles
Oct 12 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@Zakchamp
Curious about this. Can you share more?
#TCMchat
MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@AnnEliseRecord
That is great Ann, how do you structure the meetings?
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FloradTeach
Oct 12 @ 9:10 PM EDT
How does that work? Time and people resources are scarce.
#TCMchat
https://t.co/X9Iaj1eT8G
pearse_margie
Oct 12 @ 9:07 PM EDT
#TCMchat
A1: Grade level groups meet Fridays for PLC time & planning
susieqteacher
Oct 12 @ 9:10 PM EDT
We yes the SMPs and NCTM teaching practices to help get teachers interested in being reflective
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msaxby
Oct 12 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1 +1 to Progressions documents
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Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@MathMinds
It's part of the research project - so I can't share just yet. But its a two week cycle focused on analyzing SW +
#TCMChat
MikeRashidMath
Oct 12 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1: Using PA Core standards (not CCSS in PA) with a group of teachers planning curriculum and assessment.
#tcmchat
MutchmorMath
Oct 12 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1 collaborative analysis odd student work can be a powerful tool for unpacking concepts
#TCMchat
Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@MathMinds
+ And adjusting the instructional plan based on those findings.
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poly_math_
Oct 12 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@drkchilds
I agree.
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MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@Zakchamp
Nice, I thought that may be the case.
@MFAnnie
was asking too so tagging her
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MandyPolen
Oct 12 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A little late, but I'm Mandy K-4 instructional coach.
#TCMchat
aprilpfortsiowa
Oct 12 @ 9:11 PM EDT
#tcmchat
This is so fun! I like synchronous twitter.
ms_dennis45
Oct 12 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1: team focus on the verbs of the stds to pinpoint what Ss should be able to do
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Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@MathMinds
@MFAnnie
Tagging
@tmchiepp
and
@MrSmiths_Eagles
here too
#TCMChat
megyzr
Oct 12 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1-1: GLT includes me, Ts, LSS. Bonus - our instructional materials are solid support tool (examples, LASW, concept build, etc).
#TCMchat
MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@MutchmorMath
YES! I am such a huge proponent of using student work to put the standards in a context!
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kncaton
Oct 12 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Give mini pre tests and reteach through warm ups and flex grouping
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aprilpfortsiowa
Oct 12 @ 9:13 PM EDT
#tcmchat
Just figured out, I'm supposed to introduce myself. State Mathematics Coordinator for Iowa at the Department of Ed.
tmchiepp
Oct 12 @ 9:13 PM EDT
"assessment is an integral part of instruction"
#TCMChat
https://t.co/ymiTPEb4Kq
Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@MathMinds
+ And adjusting the instructional plan based on those findings.
#TCMChat
MFAnnie
Oct 12 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@MathMinds
@Zakchamp
I figured also. Just always interested in the student work angle and ways to leverage that.
#TCMchat
NPPSD_TL
Oct 12 @ 9:13 PM EDT
If you haven't had enough chatting, hop on over to
#tcmchat
Great discussions!
#lubdubchat
TCM_at_NCTM
- Moderator
Oct 12 @ 9:14 PM EDT
No worries
@aprilpfortsiowa
We are so glad that you are here
#TCMchat
jody_guarino
Oct 12 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1. Doing math tasks together and unpacking the math can also be helpful.
https://t.co/l8DtWj1NQY
#TCMchat
Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@MFAnnie
@MathMinds
Promise this will be shared widely soon. Florida folks will get a sneak peek at
#FCTM16
next week!
#TCMChat
Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:14 PM EDT
YES TO ALL OF THIS!
#TCMChat
https://t.co/e1cYrOLd09
jody_guarino
Oct 12 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1. Doing math tasks together and unpacking the math can also be helpful.
https://t.co/l8DtWj1NQY
#TCMchat
MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@jody_guarino
Not to mention it is just super fun to do!
#TCMchat
ChrisKalmbach
Oct 12 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1 progressions and coherence map from
@achievethecore
. Also Van de Walle must be on hand.
#TCMchat
jody_guarino
Oct 12 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@MandyPolen
Hi Mandy, So excited you could join!
#TCMchat
MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@ChrisKalmbach
@achievethecore
Going to throw CGI on this list as well!
#TCMchat
Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@MathMinds
@ChrisKalmbach
@achievethecore
Yup.
#TCMChat
MutchmorMath
Oct 12 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Check out this fractions learning pathway
https://t.co/YvDZwAA4Kg
#TCMchat
pearse_margie
Oct 12 @ 9:15 PM EDT
#TCMchat
A1: We are just now beginning to create common problems and then get together with Ss work to analyze. Big step for us
zack_hill
Oct 12 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@MathMinds
@jody_guarino
Agreed!
#TCMchat
MandyPolen
Oct 12 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Just beginning to get teachers to dive into the progressions documents and do the math themselves. So powerful!!
#TCMchat
aprilpfortsiowa
Oct 12 @ 9:15 PM EDT
So much easier on a computer than my phone. That was hard.
#tcmchat
Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@pearse_margie
The common problem piece is so important. Gives a common place from which we all can speak from.
#TCMChat
BethNctm
Oct 12 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Ooooo
@Zakchamp
great commercial for
#FCTM16
#TCMchat
Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@BethNctm
Gotta put that President hat on at times. :)
#TCMChat
MikeRashidMath
Oct 12 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2: Google Docs, Google Classroom, Twitter
#TCMchat
aprilpfortsiowa
Oct 12 @ 9:17 PM EDT
We have Virtual Networks for Instructional Coaches, Pre-Service teachers, In-service teachers and Leadership
#tcmchat
jody_guarino
Oct 12 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@ChrisKalmbach
@achievethecore
Love the Coherence Map. So helpful to know what ideas are being built upon and where they're going!
#TCMchat
tmchiepp
Oct 12 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2: we are a Microsoft district, so office365 and Skype
#TCMchat
ms_dennis45
Oct 12 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Feel like I'm going to miss out out on a lot this year not attending FCTM2016
#TCMchat
Rhombi_Doc
Oct 12 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@MutchmorMath
Thanks! Great resource!
#TCMchat
MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2: The project in the article was such a unique collaboration using
@TeachingChannel
Teams! Amazing platform! and GHO of course
#TCMchat
MeganMSnow
Oct 12 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A1 I find that talking about likely trouble spots, errors, and misconceptions can help clarify too.
#tcmchat
msaxby
Oct 12 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 Our fifth grade team does all of our planning via shared Google documents - works great in person as a team or individually
#tcmchat
MandyPolen
Oct 12 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2- used google hangout with
@jody_guarino
and it worked great. Considering using it more with ts from different buildings.
#TCMchat
kncaton
Oct 12 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@MandyPolen
It's important to do the math. Keeping in mind where we need to slow down
#TCMchat
megyzr
Oct 12 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: our planning-for-learning is a living doc in Atlas, UbD template, w ability to link GoogleDocs, etc. Ts share, add-to, reflect
#TCMchat
Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@ms_dennis45
Sad you'll miss out this year! We've got
@Trianglemancsd
as our opener and an ignite event at the closing of
#FCTM16
#TCMChat
MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@MeganMSnow
Right, I always like to start with "What does the student know?" so we can build on that.
#TCMchat
aprilpfortsiowa
Oct 12 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: We have Virtual Networks for Instructional Coaches, Pre-Service Ts, In-service Ts and Leadership
#tcmchat
#tcmchat
aprilpfortsiowa
Oct 12 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: We have Virtual Networks for Instructional Coaches, Pre-Service Ts, In-service Ts and Leadership
#tcmchat
#tcmchat
StacyGasteiger
Oct 12 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 Our 5th grade team saves all work on share drive. That's as tech as we get for collaborating.
#TCMchat
MutchmorMath
Oct 12 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 using Twitter to showcase S learning is a great way to help teachers be mindful of their practice and engage with others
#TCMchat
pearse_margie
Oct 12 @ 9:18 PM EDT
#TCMChat
A2: Google Docs
drkchilds
Oct 12 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Q2: we use an adaptation of 'Thinking Through a Lesson Protocol Planning' it really allows us to create an effective lesson plan
#TCMchat
MikeRashidMath
Oct 12 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2: I'd love to do more virtual collaborating with individuals outside my district to see what is happening elsewhere.
#TCMchat
MrSmiths_Eagles
Oct 12 @ 9:19 PM EDT
In the past I have hosted webinars using
https://t.co/BJGpUXCe3q
#TCMchat
MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@MandyPolen
@jody_guarino
Jody is a tech wizard!:)
#TCMchat
MrJ_2014
Oct 12 @ 9:19 PM EDT
#TCMchat
https://t.co/GOHJvF1sRB
MrJ_2014
Oct 12 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: We are not collaborating virtually, but I can see it having an awesome impact! Having that collaboration can really impact learning!
jennalaib
Oct 12 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A1 Joining late. Like using some tools already mentioned. Also: NZ Strategy Framework (and Knowledge Framework).
#TCMchat
msaxby
Oct 12 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2 One of the best parts of this project was being able to work collaboratively with people very far away
#tcmchat
MrSmiths_Eagles
Oct 12 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@MikeRashidMath
I'd love a virtual peek into other classrooms to see what others are doing.
#TCMchat
MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@MikeRashidMath
Definitely has made a huge difference in my own learning!
#TCMchat
kncaton
Oct 12 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2 We share everything on Google Drive. Most meetings are digital
#TCMchat
Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2 - I'm a big fan of Zoom. Thanks to
@MikeFlynn55
for sharing that tool with us at
#mtholyokemath
#TCMChat
jennalaib
Oct 12 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A1 I think the lack of structure is an opportunity for growth at my school. Most of this work is done through LASW. Could isomer.
#TCMchat
megyzr
Oct 12 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2-2: as international school we all use GHO, Skype, Google Drive to collaborate beyond our walls too...
#TCMchat
jody_guarino
Oct 12 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@MutchmorMath
I've learned so much from being on twitter. Love seeing all the student work and learning happening.
#TCMchat
zack_hill
Oct 12 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@drkchilds
That sounds great. Where can I find that protocol?
#TCMchat
MutchmorMath
Oct 12 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@MeganMSnow
#TCMchat
looking at misconceptions is very powerful. Sometimes Ts have misconceptions too!
MikeRashidMath
Oct 12 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@MathMinds
Let me know if you ever need another person.
#TCMchat
FloradTeach
Oct 12 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Stepping out, have a great week everyone
#TCMchat
will be checking the chat over the next few days
MeganMSnow
Oct 12 @ 9:21 PM EDT
I live in a rural area. We've collaborated on Google Hangouts, and used Drive a lot. And we're starting a Twitter Chat in Nov.!
#tcmchat
Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@drkchilds
Glad you and your insight are joining us tonight!
#TCMChat
drkchilds
Oct 12 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@zoom_us
is AWESOME
#Tcmchat
https://t.co/VDqKdqw1Lq
Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2 - I'm a big fan of Zoom. Thanks to
@MikeFlynn55
for sharing that tool with us at
#mtholyokemath
#TCMChat
MutchmorMath
Oct 12 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@MathMinds
@MeganMSnow
point of strength...every S has one!
#TCMchat
msaxby
Oct 12 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2 Collaborating with people all over the country was/is a great promise of CCSS - we still haven't fully realized its potential.
#tcmchat
MathMileMarkers
Oct 12 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Visual models that span grade levels &connect standards year to year are key! Commonality of instruction!
#TCMchat
https://t.co/mg2pcGDUyM
TCM_at_NCTM
- Moderator
Oct 12 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Q1 How do you & your team unpack important mathematical ideas & concepts? What structures do you have in place to d…
https://t.co/YPINpPQROM
jennalaib
Oct 12 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2: Some teams use google docs and sheets. Very patchwork. Any suggestions on how to get technophobes to engage virtually?
#TCMchat
MeganMSnow
Oct 12 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@MutchmorMath
Yes definitely! And it's often easier to address these through a lens of "student misconceptions".
#tcmchat
Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@drkchilds
@zoom_us
Totally agree. Combines lots of the best parts of other virtual platforms into one.
#TCMChat
MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@MutchmorMath
@MeganMSnow
Yes, we, as Ts, tend to look first for what they don't understand, but what they do know is SO imp!
#TCMchat
MutchmorMath
Oct 12 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@jennalaib
#TCMchat
❤️ how NZ has creates brilliant resources for their teachers...great tutorials as well
jody_guarino
Oct 12 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A2. Google hangouts and drive is a favorite for me!
#TCMchat
BethNctm
Oct 12 @ 9:23 PM EDT
That is a great point
@MutchmorMath
Ts have misconceptions too and need to get comfortable talking and supporting each other
#TCMchat
megyzr
Oct 12 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@msaxby
throw me in there too - this is absolutely how I stay connected from Int'l school twitter, blogs, websites 🌍
#TCMchat
Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Focus on what they do know and make decisions based on that. Sound advice here from Kristin!
#TCMChat
https://t.co/XfPDKNPBZK
MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@MutchmorMath
@MeganMSnow
Yes, we, as Ts, tend to look first for what they don't understand, but what they do know is SO imp!
#TCMchat
MeganMSnow
Oct 12 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@MathMinds
@MutchmorMath
Absolutely! But thinking about what the tricky concepts are going to be can help our Ss avoid them!
#tcmchat
MikeRashidMath
Oct 12 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@MeganMSnow
@MutchmorMath
Identifying those misconceptions prior to the lesson allows for some purposeful planning. Very valuable!
#TCMchat
MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@MrSmiths_Eagles
@MutchmorMath
@MeganMSnow
@JSchwartz10a
Yes, Joe has some wise words in that post!
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TCM_at_NCTM
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Oct 12 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q3 The authors pose a framework for one way to do this kind of work. How do you react to this model?
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https://t.co/caRS5DKMwB
ms_dennis45
Oct 12 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A2: our district has placed most resources on OneDrive
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MFAnnie
Oct 12 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A2: We just started using zoom, but have also used Google Hangouts and many many Google docs. And Twitter. Duh.
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poly_math_
Oct 12 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@MikeRashidMath
Collaborating with Ts from other districts has been very helpful for Ts in my district.
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tmchiepp
Oct 12 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@MathMinds
love using Number Talks as the lesson's launch
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jody_guarino
Oct 12 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@MeganMSnow
@MathMinds
@MutchmorMath
Anticipating tricky concepts can be helpful in having questions prepared and ideas to push on.
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MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Q3: here is the article if you need it:
https://t.co/CMsy4pVUgG
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kncaton
Oct 12 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Can work. Flexibility is key
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MutchmorMath
Oct 12 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@BethNctm
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solving rich problems collaboratively as Ts, anticipating S responses, helps us focus on WHAT IS TO BE LEARNED😃
zack_hill
Oct 12 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3 Don't think I saw the words "lesson study" in the article, but that's what I kept thinking of as I read it.
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Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Is this image any easier to see for Q3?
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https://t.co/ZtiwF2IlDg
aprilpfortsiowa
Oct 12 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@Doctor_Math
you should try this out! It is awesome!
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MFAnnie
Oct 12 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: It's so critical to teach and REFLECT and refine. How do we help more Ts understand importance so they find time?
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MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: My favorite part of that diagram was the revising and reteaching. Never had that chance with the same lesson!
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ShelbiCole1
Oct 12 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3 the promise of OER resources and virtual collaboration to revise = bright future
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MikeRashidMath
Oct 12 @ 9:28 PM EDT
I love the idea of meeting in sunny California! 😎
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MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@Zakchamp
Yep!
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drkchilds
Oct 12 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Q3: the key to the model is implementation; however the question is how is the implementation 'effectively' assessed
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kncaton
Oct 12 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3 Can work. Flexibility is key
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MrSmiths_Eagles
Oct 12 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3 - I think it would be very useful, I know I personally don't always have that much time to spend on every lesson
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Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@MathMinds
Good deal!
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MutchmorMath
Oct 12 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@zack_hill
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ditto...I was thinking just that!
MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@zack_hill
Right, def was a lesson study! I think we said it a million times but never explicitly put it in the article!
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MrSmiths_Eagles
Oct 12 @ 9:29 PM EDT
And oftentimes, the reflection piece gets left out, even though it can be the most beneficial
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msaxby
Oct 12 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@MrSmiths_Eagles
I understand this! I wish we could do more school-based meetings along these kinds of lines
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ms_dennis45
Oct 12 @ 9:29 PM EDT
I really liked the filming of the lesson and debrief. Video is a great tool for reflection
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MFAnnie
Oct 12 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@zack_hill
I saw it in the URL of
@MathMinds
's blog post!
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tmchiepp
Oct 12 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3 include scheduling frequent ongoing collaboration to eliminate barrier of time between lessons
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MikeRashidMath
Oct 12 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3: I love the idea of meeting in sunny California! 😎
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drkchilds
Oct 12 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3: the key component is implementation; however the question is "How is the implementation 'effectively' assessed?"
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Rhombi_Doc
Oct 12 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Q3: Will be facilitating a PD day on 10/24 and plan to use an adapted version of it.
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Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3 - The best part is that you all shared the outcomes with us! That's my favorite part of the diagram. :)
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MutchmorMath
Oct 12 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@goddard_dorothy
@KristinGrey18
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thx Dorothy! Just passing along the good work out there & the passion!
MrSmiths_Eagles
Oct 12 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@msaxby
And there's even more of a time crunch when you teach six different subjects at elem level
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goddard_dorothy
Oct 12 @ 9:30 PM EDT
I have done this before and allows for great reflection
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https://t.co/NkEZycFzEj
ms_dennis45
Oct 12 @ 9:29 PM EDT
I really liked the filming of the lesson and debrief. Video is a great tool for reflection
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zack_hill
Oct 12 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@MathMinds
Nice, that makes sense. Love how the framework allowed for multiple revisions and implementations.
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jennalaib
Oct 12 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3: I love the idea! Puts the emphasis on T and S learning and thinking, rather than lesson as a consumable good. (phrasing?)
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jody_guarino
Oct 12 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@MFAnnie
I agree! The power in getting to refine. As
@MathMinds
said at one point, getting to see the lesson before you teach it!
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Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Elementary teacher problems. The struggle is real.
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https://t.co/6iKsTidOt7
MrSmiths_Eagles
Oct 12 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@msaxby
And there's even more of a time crunch when you teach six different subjects at elem level
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lockhartedu
Oct 12 @ 9:31 PM EDT
I'm Bethany, a Kindergarten teacher in Orange County
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zack_hill
Oct 12 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@MFAnnie
@MathMinds
Nice! I knew it had to be somewhere.
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megyzr
Oct 12 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3: lesson design relies on task choice/design, important! On-going research cycle & reflection, refinement key. Ts sharing process
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jennalaib
Oct 12 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@MrSmiths_Eagles
I agree that there would be logistical struggles. I don't think the goal is to do this with every lesson, though.
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MFAnnie
Oct 12 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@jody_guarino
@MathMinds
It's a version of using an activity that someone blogged about - see successes, failures, reflections.
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jennalaib
Oct 12 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@MrSmiths_Eagles
Isn't the hope that the kind of thinking done as a team would transfer to individual T planning?
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jody_guarino
Oct 12 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@lockhartedu
Welcome Bethany!
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MandyPolen
Oct 12 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A3- I wonder how it would work to do all in one day. T1 in morning, reflect, revise, T2 teach in afternoon, more reflection..?
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ingrid_beaty
Oct 12 @ 9:33 PM EDT
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I'm Ingrid a 5th grade teach in OC. Sorry to join late.
Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@MandyPolen
Good question Mandy! Anyone have experience with this? Certainly there are some lesson study models that do this
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MutchmorMath
Oct 12 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@zack_hill
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wouldn't we all at some point in our career wish for a lesson #" do-over"! Now we can with each other 4 support
jody_guarino
Oct 12 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@Zakchamp
Could be helpful to select a content area to hone in on each year. Maybe try some of these ideas just in one area?
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megyzr
Oct 12 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@MrSmiths_Eagles
true also in teaching & learning time w Ss (not just as Ts reflecting in lesson study)... reflection essential
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MikeRashidMath
Oct 12 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@MandyPolen
I thought the same thing when I read the article.
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mrsperryd
Oct 12 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A3 It reminds me of the structure we used for a lesson study I participated in with teachers from across our district via Polycom.
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goddard_dorothy
Oct 12 @ 9:34 PM EDT
I often get to do this with my position and it is wonderful!
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https://t.co/0SA3aBztGT
MandyPolen
Oct 12 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A3- I wonder how it would work to do all in one day. T1 in morning, reflect, revise, T2 teach in afternoon, more reflection..?
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MFAnnie
Oct 12 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@MandyPolen
I've been able to do versions of that when working with one T all day. Reflect and refine throughout day. Love it.
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MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@MandyPolen
Im trying that tomorrow w/2 2nd gr Ts. but its just me in both lessons bc coverage is hard to get Ts in one anothers rm
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jody_guarino
Oct 12 @ 9:35 PM EDT
@MandyPolen
So much potential here! Maybe a possibility for co-teaching too.
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ms_dennis45
Oct 12 @ 9:35 PM EDT
@goddard_dorothy
There are some awesome videos on
@TeachingChannel
using video as reflection
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msaxby
Oct 12 @ 9:35 PM EDT
@MathMinds
@MandyPolen
Kristin - hard because of coverage needs, or hard because of T reluctance?
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MutchmorMath
Oct 12 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Joining another T in their class (when you have a prep) great opportunity to refine practice
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MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@msaxby
@MandyPolen
Coverage needs in this situation but each group has diff challenges.
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jody_guarino
Oct 12 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@ingrid_beaty
Hi Ingrid, glad you could join!
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aprilpfortsiowa
Oct 12 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A3: In Iowa we have a statewide Instructional Coaching Initiative and PLCs so this can happen more.
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StacyGasteiger
Oct 12 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4 4 new 5th grade Ts this year. We live on collaboration, because everyone figuring out at same time.
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megyzr
Oct 12 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@Zakchamp
@MandyPolen
yes, in MS - by sched design can be managed. In ES we've done as learning walk in am, go back and try in pm
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MrSmiths_Eagles
Oct 12 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4 It's a great opportunity to grow when you get to see things from a different perspective
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jody_guarino
Oct 12 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@MandyPolen
Maybe a space for some Ohio - California collaboration via Google Hangout?
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ingrid_beaty
Oct 12 @ 9:37 PM EDT
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@Zakchamp
@MandyPolen
I've seen it done in one class in am, Ts debrief & refine, then repeat in another class that is same gl.
MFAnnie
Oct 12 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@StacyGasteiger
Nice that everyone thinks there is something to figure out!
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MutchmorMath
Oct 12 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4 planning with others always a good idea...help see things we may not. 👍together we are brilliant
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StacyGasteiger
Oct 12 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4 Diff Ts have diff strengths. I have done things already this year never would have thought of.
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MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@ms_dennis45
@goddard_dorothy
@TeachingChannel
Yes! Here was our project!
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Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4 - Benefit: Collaboration is key to prof. growth. Challenge: Finding willing teachers. (But this is why we are all here right?)
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StacyGasteiger
Oct 12 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@MFAnnie
Sometimes just a few days before we're in front of the Ss!
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megyzr
Oct 12 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A4: chlng can almost be "too" much discussion impedes shared learning and action - use tight structures/SRI protocols to guide talk
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MFAnnie
Oct 12 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@StacyGasteiger
Hey, that's a couple of days ahead of a lot of people!
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aprilpfortsiowa
Oct 12 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A3: Collaboration has to be meaningful and supported by leadership like principals, curriculum directors, etc
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StacyGasteiger
Oct 12 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A4 Some Ts can feel overwhelmed if too many new ideas/concepts at once.
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TCM_at_NCTM
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Oct 12 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Q5A Let’s end our night with some math so grab a pencil and some paper!
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(See fig 2 page 169)
https://t.co/YHdctop182
zack_hill
Oct 12 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A4 Challenging to carve out time, but shouldn't let that stop us. The collaboration allows us to really hone our craft.
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MandyPolen
Oct 12 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A4 -Fortunate in my position to be able to get subs for ts or I can cover classes so they can watch each other.
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ShelbiCole1
Oct 12 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A4 challenge when planning timelines w Ts in same school, just imagine matching up timeline w class on other side of the country
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BethNctm
Oct 12 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Are school schedules allowing more time for T collaboration or are Ts just finding a way to make time for collaboration?
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jennalaib
Oct 12 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A4: So many pros! One challenge I have faced was co-planning too far in advance. (Even a week or two.) Ts really want the next day.
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StacyGasteiger
Oct 12 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@BethNctm
We use our own time-lunch, before school, after school.
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megyzr
Oct 12 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A4-1: bonuses = shared learning process, many minds, open doors/no secrets classrooms, reflection (no mountaintop in teaching!)
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msaxby
Oct 12 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@Zakchamp
I'd love to amend challenge to something like "finding structures so this kind of work is easier during the school day"
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jennalaib
Oct 12 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A4: That said, we have not done as much reflection. Would love to try out lesson study! Wonder what it would take to get us there?
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ms_dennis45
Oct 12 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A4: Help Ts teach to the depth of the std but Difficult to find enough time
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MrSmiths_Eagles
Oct 12 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@jennalaib
I've found that I can do general planning weeks ahead, but things usually need to be adjusted day to day.
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StacyGasteiger
Oct 12 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@MrSmiths_Eagles
@jennalaib
Exactly. My Friday never looks like I thought it would on Sunday. :)
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MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A4: Timing is always the biggest challenge!It is hard mid-day to get ur head in a prof learning space bc Ss take so much brainpower
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jody_guarino
Oct 12 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@StacyGasteiger
@MFAnnie
Maybe collaboration could come after a lesson. Start with a common task and collaborate around next steps.
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tmchiepp
Oct 12 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A4 and it can be both a benefit and challenge
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https://t.co/k5p1DqJVxX
Rhombi_Doc
Oct 12 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@BethNctm
districts where I facilitate PD - school schedules are allowing time for PLCs to meet more regularly than in the past
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MutchmorMath
Oct 12 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@aprilpfortsiowa
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sometimes we have to lead them to supporting us...can't wait! Learning of S comes 1st. Support will follow
ingrid_beaty
Oct 12 @ 9:44 PM EDT
@BethNctm
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both. We have time during school hrs but still find the need to create addition time. Not an easy task but worth it.
drkchilds
Oct 12 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5: I would challenge everyone to connect the task to std(s) and which mathematical practices would Ss engage in
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jody_guarino
Oct 12 @ 9:44 PM EDT
@BethNctm
In my experience both! Ts that see the value make it happen.
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MFAnnie
Oct 12 @ 9:44 PM EDT
@MathMinds
How to encourage mini reflections? Post-its in book? Notes on clipboard? Always looking to help Ts do ANY reflect.
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poly_math_
Oct 12 @ 9:44 PM EDT
@BethNctm
In my district Ts have to find time. Often, I creatively "create" time for them.
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ms_dennis45
Oct 12 @ 9:44 PM EDT
@BethNctm
Depends on the school. My last school paid for subs...current school says no money in the budget
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aprilpfortsiowa
Oct 12 @ 9:44 PM EDT
This was like the lesson I did in a reaserch project for LS but it was birthday cake # we use a hexagon for our whole
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StacyGasteiger
Oct 12 @ 9:45 PM EDT
@MFAnnie
@MathMinds
We depend on lunch to share good and bad, since we try to stay within day or 2 of each other.
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MutchmorMath
Oct 12 @ 9:45 PM EDT
@jennalaib
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attended a great lesson study conference in Chicago...I think they have one very year...powerful learning!
msaxby
Oct 12 @ 9:45 PM EDT
@jody_guarino
@BethNctm
And then it gets easier to do again, once the value is clear.
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MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:45 PM EDT
@MFAnnie
This is something I am trying to figure out! I tried GDoc for reflection but it was just one more place to go.
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aprilpfortsiowa
Oct 12 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5:This was like the lesson I did in a reaserch project for LS but it was birthday cake & used a hexagon for our whole
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aprilpfortsiowa
Oct 12 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5:This was like the lesson I did in a reaserch project for LS but it was birthday cake & used a hexagon for our whole
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tmchiepp
Oct 12 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5a
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https://t.co/GxQf7XEfWD
MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:46 PM EDT
@MFAnnie
+Ideally I would love lunch convo to be that, but most times Ts need to talk to adults about adulting.
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StacyGasteiger
Oct 12 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5B Draw pictures of the brownies and make the lines.
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MFAnnie
Oct 12 @ 9:47 PM EDT
@MathMinds
Right. Gotta be seamless. In one situation, Ts tended to carry T Guide, so we went with post-its. But how to look back?
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MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:47 PM EDT
@MFAnnie
The best I have gotten so far is just chatting as Ss work and talk quickly as we go. I jot notes to talk to them about
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MutchmorMath
Oct 12 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5 some students may loose sight of the whole. The whole matters...
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StacyGasteiger
Oct 12 @ 9:47 PM EDT
@MFAnnie
@MathMinds
I put notes in my electronic lesson plans so I'll keep record of them for next time.
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tmchiepp
Oct 12 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A5b
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https://t.co/qmMkPWERAA
MFAnnie
Oct 12 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@StacyGasteiger
@MathMinds
Which you type right after class, or you are carrying computer?
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MikeRashidMath
Oct 12 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@drkchilds
SMP 1 and 2, explain = SMP3 diagram = SMP4
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MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@MFAnnie
+ also try to blog a lot of what we do & talk about so Ts can read at their leisure. Wish Ts would add their point of view
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megyzr
Oct 12 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A5a: thinking 1/4 of whole, followed by 1/3 of remaining 3/4...
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https://t.co/F29VsKPlJl
MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@MutchmorMath
I have not, will have to check that out!!
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poly_math_
Oct 12 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Many Ss in my district would prob use tape diagrams to solve.
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Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A5B - In the lesson, how frequently did students not refer back the whole?
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(and yes I just answered the question with a question).
StacyGasteiger
Oct 12 @ 9:50 PM EDT
@MFAnnie
@MathMinds
I type at the end of the day. Laptop is never far from me.
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tmchiepp
Oct 12 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A5b
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https://t.co/GbgqXguP5I
aprilpfortsiowa
Oct 12 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A5: Give them cubes so they can work backwords and create the whole!
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MFAnnie
Oct 12 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@StacyGasteiger
@MathMinds
Good discipline. So nice to realize that it pays off, so you actually do it.
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ShelbiCole1
Oct 12 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Shared resources, virtual collaboration, revised & improved shared resources. Let's do this!
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megyzr
Oct 12 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A5: ha! Redo for me (it's early here!) misread Q: now...
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https://t.co/2ZbZ5Fp1gn
StacyGasteiger
Oct 12 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A6 Like
@Zakchamp
says--Ss need to remember the whole.
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MrSmiths_Eagles
Oct 12 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A6 - The language of multiplication. If students understand that w/ whole numbers it makes mult fractions much simpler
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MikeRashidMath
Oct 12 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A5: Great way to show Ss the conceptual understanding behind denominators changing.
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https://t.co/BhGOktOsfE
jody_guarino
Oct 12 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@ShelbiCole1
Can't wait to see more of this!
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StacyGasteiger
Oct 12 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@MFAnnie
@MathMinds
Of course, I just changed grade levels, so I'm starting over again. :)
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aprilpfortsiowa
Oct 12 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A6: That multiplication does not always give you a bigger answer.
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caroleseubert
Oct 12 @ 9:52 PM EDT
We meet in 1 or 2 times a week during school day for collaborative planning.We us Harvard's rolling agenda to track our sessions
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StacyGasteiger
Oct 12 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@aprilpfortsiowa
YES! So hard for Ss to get this, especially if lower grades have said it will always get bigger numbers.
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MFAnnie
Oct 12 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@StacyGasteiger
@MathMinds
Yea, but this time you have tools you know will make life simpler!
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mrsperryd
Oct 12 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A6
@Zakchamp
And answered Q6 at the same time.
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Rhombi_Doc
Oct 12 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A6: the referents of 1/4 and 1/3
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aprilpfortsiowa
Oct 12 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A6: Have them use the bar model instead of the rectangle. That only works for even numbers
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Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6 - I'm not sure its a "concept," but using a model here is tough work. And also, the referent unit
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MutchmorMath
Oct 12 @ 9:53 PM EDT
@TCM_at_NCTM
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one big conceptual misconception is that when you (X). You get more...doesn't work with fractions not repeated (+)
jody_guarino
Oct 12 @ 9:53 PM EDT
@MathMinds
@MFAnnie
I learn so much from your blog and love to go back when I'm looking for specific things!
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megyzr
Oct 12 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6: Ss can access it w variety of entry points to begin thinking, model it, redo (like me!) to add to / change thinking.
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MFAnnie
Oct 12 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6: General idea of fractions - what's 1/4 mean? 1/3? That "whole" can be flexible/matters.
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KristinGrey18
Oct 12 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A5: Ss are going to think there are 2 people. Reading 2 fast! 1st buys 1/4,2nd buys 1/3 of what's left. Teaching to reread problem
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MikeRashidMath
Oct 12 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@aprilpfortsiowa
The rule of multiplication always providing a "bigger" answer expires quickly here!
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StacyGasteiger
Oct 12 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6 Will they make the connection to multiplying? Will they understand that is what they are doing?
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jennalaib
Oct 12 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@Zakchamp
Reminds me of
@mburnsmath
's intro to mult fractions lesson
https://t.co/lpplSZWXAx
; Mult can be shown as an area model
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Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:54 PM EDT
I was thinking that may be the case!
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https://t.co/DnFGI4l0a6
MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:53 PM EDT
@Zakchamp
A lot! Many answered 3/12 at first.
MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@jody_guarino
@MFAnnie
Thanks Jody! To me it just feels like a rambling mess:) heehee!
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aprilpfortsiowa
Oct 12 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6: Singapore math works great here. Also have them define the whole instead of disecting it. Think partition
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Rhombi_Doc
Oct 12 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@drkchilds
attending to precision MP6
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jody_guarino
Oct 12 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@MutchmorMath
@TCM_at_NCTM
Connecting what's happening to an operation can also be challenging.
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megyzr
Oct 12 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6-1: Ss often try to go back & model task after getting-answer; this task pushes 1/4 of whole first, then 1/3 remaining (context)
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ShelbiCole1
Oct 12 @ 9:55 PM EDT
SMP1
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https://t.co/NLQTOAkavJ
KristinGrey18
Oct 12 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A5: Ss are going to think there are 2 people. Reading 2 fast! 1st buys 1/4,2nd buys 1/3 of what's left. Teaching to reread problem
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123Westley
Oct 12 @ 9:55 PM EDT
@tmchiepp
@LakeshoreLM
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rad! Have taught models for three years and never seen these before! TY
MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:55 PM EDT
@Zakchamp
I think equivalents can be big concept here too. If Ss know 1/4=3/12, then 1/3 is easy bc it is just one of those 12ths.
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jody_guarino
Oct 12 @ 9:56 PM EDT
@StacyGasteiger
@aprilpfortsiowa
Have you read Rules that Expire? Great article in TCM to share with teachers at multiple levels.
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MrSmiths_Eagles
Oct 12 @ 9:56 PM EDT
@megyzr
And they try to make their model fit their (often incorrect) answer.
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MutchmorMath
Oct 12 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6 another great connect...use set model 12 soccer balls. What is 1/3, 1/2, 1/4 or half of a third of the set can add in $ values
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aprilpfortsiowa
Oct 12 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6: Students do not always draw lines straight or in even sections. This confuses other students especially struggling students
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Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:56 PM EDT
@MathMinds
Yeah I totally agree. This is a very sophisticated way of thinking though. How often did this come up?
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MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:57 PM EDT
@StacyGasteiger
I think they do:
https://t.co/i6M0YXt3eU
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StacyGasteiger
Oct 12 @ 9:57 PM EDT
@MutchmorMath
Great idea for another way to look at fractions.
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jody_guarino
Oct 12 @ 9:57 PM EDT
@StacyGasteiger
For some, it doesn't map on to their thinking around "equal groups."
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MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:57 PM EDT
@Zakchamp
I had one S that would try to do this for everything. I loved it! Once he shared it, others played around w/it.
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tmchiepp
Oct 12 @ 9:57 PM EDT
@aprilpfortsiowa
yes! A6: area models
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MutchmorMath
Oct 12 @ 9:58 PM EDT
@StacyGasteiger
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help them connect "a third of a group of 1/4" use (X) language " group of"
StacyGasteiger
Oct 12 @ 9:58 PM EDT
@jody_guarino
@aprilpfortsiowa
Love that article. I had our former math coach share it with all the elementary teachers.
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Zakchamp
Oct 12 @ 9:58 PM EDT
@MathMinds
Big fan of that! Student generated strategies spreading through the class. It doesn't get much better.
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aprilpfortsiowa
Oct 12 @ 9:58 PM EDT
A6: If they define what one part is then they can add more to get to the whole. Which is far easier than dividing shapes evenly
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StacyGasteiger
Oct 12 @ 9:58 PM EDT
@MathMinds
Thanks for the link!
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Rhombi_Doc
Oct 12 @ 9:58 PM EDT
@TCM_at_NCTM
thanks for another great
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!! Hope everyone joins us next week for
@MTMS_at_NCTM
's chat!
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megyzr
Oct 12 @ 9:59 PM EDT
@jody_guarino
@StacyGasteiger
@aprilpfortsiowa
we do this at team levels - soft entry point to build T capacity / MKT
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zack_hill
Oct 12 @ 9:59 PM EDT
@MrSmiths_Eagles
@megyzr
Agreed, S's should be doing the opposite - working from a model to arrive at an answer that makes sense.
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jennalaib
Oct 12 @ 9:59 PM EDT
@Zakchamp
That's awesome,
@MathMinds
! Also: just noticed that your team included analysis of SW online!
https://t.co/f6nAbw0Mdu
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MathMinds
Oct 12 @ 9:59 PM EDT
@Zakchamp
It is awesome. Even if they take it and mess it up, at least they are trying something new! I love it!
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aprilpfortsiowa
Oct 12 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Love my first Twitter Chat. Cannot wait to tell Iowa about it. Pforts Out! :) Thanks all!
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