#TEDEdChat Archive
Sparked by the enthusiasm of teachers in the TED-Ed community, TED-Ed hosts #TEDEdChat on Twitter every Tuesday from 6-7pm ET.
Tuesday January 19, 2016
6:00 PM EST
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Q1 How are our current education systems preparing learners for new ways of discovering the world? https://t.co/TBJm8eP5fy
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Hello everyone. I am really looking forward to this talk tonight and the exchange of ideas and experiences that will take place.
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A1: Our awareness of the the seize of our world and everything in it has exponentially increase our
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Q1 I am not sure there is a useful level of abstraction in curriculums as yet, they are too linear and task-based
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Where can I get the questions? TY!
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A1: Inquiry based teaching and PBL causes students to understand the why & how, and not just the what
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A1 There could be more concept-based curriculum, allowing for more transformative and civic based learning.
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A1: Are they?Often there is a lack of connection across disciplines. There is more quantity of connectivity through tech
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Just starting my journey as a networked learner. I think educators are using social platforms to innovate
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agreed. Too content heavy and not enough exploration and critical thinking.
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Linear approaches dominate & subjugate. Being open to bringing in new ideas/connections is needed
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A1: World language perspective: too linear, too much grammar, even in thematic units
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A1 work by people like Kegan provides a useful starting point to explore how we might change the educational narrative.
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Has it? Or have we become overwhelmed with the extent of knowledge & this leads to more superficiality
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Dan from a snowy St. Louis. Business teacher. Ready to jump in.
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A1 Currently it matches them to our economic model, rather than setting foundations for them to recreate it to their needs.
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Exploring takes time. How can you discover with pre-determined packages of knowledge?
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A1 play-based and authentic learning experiences explored through a conceptual lense-I see this in the NZ curriculum
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Spot on: we are caged by our surrounding institutional structures. How can we upset? https://t.co/rGliG1u5ne
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A1 Currently it matches them to our economic model, rather than setting foundations for them to recreate it to their needs.
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RT Exploring takes time. How can you discover with pre-determined packages of knowledge?
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How do we make curricula non-linear? I'm intrigued
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Officially rejected the word play from the performing arts in its development. I agree it is in there. https://t.co/9ncctAvjjF
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A1 play-based and authentic learning experiences explored through a conceptual lense-I see this in the NZ curriculum
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I wonder if Play is the right frame throughout education, or if there are other lenses?
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There are some nice threads in Te Whariki.
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discover vs regurgitate would be a great verb change for designing curriculum.
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Transformative based learning is one tool towards this, but equally so, ecosystem-based models of collaboration.
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make it conceptual and dialogical.
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would the word `impact` have value in that line of thinking?
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A1- How do you learn best? For me its by doing and exploring! why would Ss be any different? Let them find their own path!
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What does 'play' mean anyway?
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Yes! And, are hugely popular w/8th grdrs for & outside of schl (Ss tell me) for learning! https://t.co/tG4Cow9XSn
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A1: Inquiry based teaching and PBL causes students to understand the why & how, and not just the what
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Q2 coming up in a moment!
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Q2 coming up in a moment!
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engage in activity for enjoyment and recreation rather than a serious or practical purpose.
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Q2 How can education create exposure to systems thinking, open source and collaborative working? https://t.co/gSkBCsAey6
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However, a lot else can be inferred in terms of the developmental value of engaging with play.
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Is the question then about making sure educational systems provide multiple pathways for students?
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would love 2 see a shift n class titles. Teach 4 C's in elem as classes n weave n SS & SC. Create passionate learners in el Ed.
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agency as an essential experience? https://t.co/yqCJdpoWy4
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A1- How do you learn best? For me its by doing and exploring! why would Ss be any different? Let them find their own path!
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as long as learning styles thinking stays dead in the past :)
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A1 I´m no t sure about play but am sure that today content is over-rated
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A1: if we are incorporating technology and real world aspects, then we are stepping in the right direction.
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A2: empower the teachers make decisions about what is right for their kids
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or the opportunity for students to forge their own pathway (hence multiple?)
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A2: The world is collaborative now with the advent of social media- teach Ss to be responsible, contributing members- not pariahs
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or could we be braver and adapt the destinations? dispositional rather than linear.
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content is overrated but I still think meaningful contexts are important
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Q2 For me, there are important interactions with both the local and wider community here. A sense of collective narrative.
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A2: I think that real life scenarios or inspiration from global issues helps make learning more meaningful and engaging.
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A2 To teach systems thinking, the lesson must be problem-based & planned w/activities that involve skills across the curriculum.
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A2: encourage teachers to take risks and try new, innovative techniques
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how can we ensure this collaboration is sued for meaningful & deep learning?
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A2 investing in teachers, providing high quality e-learning, thinking outside the box by delivering lessons through new mediums
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A2 using technology students don't need to be sitting in a classroom next to each other for collaborative working.
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I wonder to what ends? What genuine exchange could there be through education becoming more civic based?
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A2 Problem-based learning means contextualizing the learning in a familiar narrative, story or challenge in the Ss lives.
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A2: between all things social media, Ss have ways to make learning applicable to real life.
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A2: Using Skype to work on collaborative projects with other classes, including those in other parts of the world.
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I feel if elem Ss were taught 4 C's as a class, ms & hs could dive deeper n2 content w valuable learning experiences
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Agree! just don´t loose the learning objectives by focusing to much on content
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a2: The arts (specifically performing) are the ultimate in collaborative, critical & creative thinking(1) https://t.co/EmXt7ADZnX
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Q2 How can education create exposure to systems thinking, open source and collaborative working? https://t.co/gSkBCsAey6
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only if they take multi-linear, incremtal approach.
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stagnation is the enemy of innovation. Emphasize encourage & not throw babies out with bath water
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only if a multi-linear, incremental approach is taken
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agree: start with problem or essential question starts it as a conversation that may take dif direction (not linear)
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A2 systems thinking also means looking at problem from several perspectives. Problem-based challenges Ss to create mult hypothes.
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A2 Collab. is no linger limited to the classroom. Ss can collab. with other classes, states, countries. https://t.co/YOBJuTkmhW
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A2: The world is collaborative now with the advent of social media- teach Ss to be responsible, contributing members- not pariahs
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So, increasing exposure to the arts increases collaboration (2)
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Might design based approaches also have a role here in providing a frame in which to apply them?
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I wonder what the edu infrastructure would look like that promoted this kind of working.
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I guess it is more about engaging in a meaningful context (chosen by students) then getting through the content
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My Ss have chosen health topics "close 2 home" 4 > depression, anxiety, addiction...Other:art therapy, yoga...
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Totally agree, let them be part of the design process, will improve their sense of autonomy
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Yes, & inclds self-efficacy to ? current thinking. Creating hypo & argumentation skills is a part of sys thinking
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agree. somewhere (I have seniors) this stuff gets lost & they open their mouths for a spoon
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exactly, let them be part of the design process of the problems/projects to be addressed
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indeed, but there is still enjoyment and recreation in it for it to be play, otherwise, it must be .......
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something else. The term is romanticized and generalised a lot.
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design thinking aligns with most project/inquiry approaches quite nicely. https://t.co/br9GzkpNST
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Might design based approaches also have a role here in providing a frame in which to apply them?
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when we start teaching the values of failure and equipping Ss through struggle we will start seeing greatness again.
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I love padlet I use it ALL the time
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An example IB PYP-concept driven, thematic and multi dimensional with student voice through action
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A2 Learning that the initial problem may be complete or may reflect a larger, unknown problem is a powerful motivator for PBL..
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Q3 What value is there in shifting from teaching subjects towards concept-based curriculums? https://t.co/SoS21SgkCL
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Creating intentional struggle is hard. A balance between being challenging enough but not letting them drown
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Oh how I would love for all educators to view learning as recreation! Talk about transformation!
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if it starts in hs or ms I agree. Start early & it works. During development years- train Ss to struggle and overcome
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A3 every Wed we do passion projects with 4 conceptual/process pillars. This creates scholarships, publications, & engagement.
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how do you see passive environments transitioning to active ones to enable learning beyond baseline?
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Would you rather be assigned a paper on Lincoln or design investigation of effects of Civil War? https://t.co/9s8Sm85Uh2
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Q3 What value is there in shifting from teaching subjects towards concept-based curriculums? https://t.co/SoS21SgkCL
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A3 Many teachers are bringing in real world already. AP has the big ideas.
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A3 Subjects reward students knowledge, concepts empower students with skills.
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If we switch to strategies instead of content, we can teach kids how to learn things they don't know, struggle, and overcome! A3
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Would you mind sharing examples of pillars?
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A3 The prob & cog skill dev, synthesis & argumentation R embedded in real prob. & avail for Ss generalization to novel problems.
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A3: concept based from the begining. Don´t give TS syllabuses, give them subject logic to be developed
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a3: innovation occurs when we connect the previously unconnected. When we look at learning as a whole (1) https://t.co/TocRVz9O82
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Q3 What value is there in shifting from teaching subjects towards concept-based curriculums? https://t.co/SoS21SgkCL
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A3: It helps Ss become more engaged, and therefore, interested in the subject.
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Ditto! (I was about to Google it)
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(2) rather than as individual subjects S begin to see how everything works together.
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Subjects compartmentalize; concepts connect through all subjects.
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take it further to concepts and allow the students to discover their own strategies
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A3: skills, skills, skills not concepts!
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A3: teaching concepts allows for more variations in how the subject matter is presented. Allows for more projects/collaboration.
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One main area of mine is connecting classical world to other cultures. The diversity of paths this can take huge
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q3 this shift transforms the finished product (Ss) from content masters 2 innovators n a world that requires evolving innovators
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! Remember that the building blocks of a domain is content. Content + skill/processing/analysis/synthesis=cycle
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building on this, students collab strategies together
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Definitelly projects will help as integrators
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Ss need skills + content, analysis, synthesis which leads to schema formation & avail for novel future prob solve
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The focus for Ts and Ss can be radically different, content engages Ss, but Ts intentions ....(1)
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are to realise concepts, working with a concept based curriculm
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I did something similar in my 5th grade classroom, during projects I'd give time for "How are you..." days
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Start term w/essential ?s + themes to be investigated. End product includes formal writing + public presentation.
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Yes. Said way more succinctly than I did. https://t.co/2QYhCvQuGx
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Subjects compartmentalize; concepts connect through all subjects.
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Fantastic! Thanks for the resource
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and better if you let them design or choose the outcome
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Y, but Bware of content overload. Ideally, intro content (stuff) & allow Ss to exper via skills .
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mmn. content is highly contestable (in history anyway). You need contexts to work but noprescription
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we need to transition out of invitro thinking to connective, complexed based frames
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students writing their success criteria. It can be done even with our int standards-based assessment
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Y! that is part of systems thking, to ? facts w/coherent argumentation & informed hypothesis based on
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I teach my daughter dispositional relationships and complex adaptive system princples through morning cereal :)
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Q4 How can education reform social infrastructure & governance to meet the needs of our next generation? https://t.co/P1rNN2YTJ1
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how about peer assessments for project outcomes?
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agree to an extent but facts are not stable & are contested. You need them but not as a prescription
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Not only strategy. We work content w/strategies to logical elab & teach hypothesis & argumentation at same time.
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Tech is good to a degree but I still believe in face to face communication.
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absolutely. This is one of the new things I am bringing in formally (did just as activity before)
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Q3: World is made up of concepts not curriculum. Why do we struggle w/ getting Ss to solve problems? We dont let them solve any.
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Exactly..b/need "stuff" to argue.The domain content is presented & CT strategies "torture" the theory
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Need to change the tech-centric narrative of education4.0 that is emerging, frame tech as a tool for connection
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a4: Interdependence- we need each other to succeed and to survive. Creating a healthy community of interdependence should be key
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Make collaboration key, take the T out of the spotlight & Ss thinking in, value connection instead of restriction, be fearless
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Q4 allow for local control of assessment and system-wide eval of student progress regarding 21c capacities
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Yes! Look at this Twitter chat -- people from around the GLOBE coming together for collaborative discussions
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education is the key and tech is the chain that can link us together to solve larger problems.
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A5 The lang of a domain- the academic lang know that Ss enter school with is a huge factor in Ss failure. It's ancultural capital
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How might learners be involved in connecting locally and engaging with community, rather than axiomatic thinking?
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A4 Needs of the next Gen is getting Ss to think and work globally. Skills of Global Collaboration
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lets encourage this type of conversations with ss from diff countries and bkgds
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SS work: underworld/Dante; myth & comic heroes/gaming; Aristophanes & modern satire
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A5 as a curriculum writer I dissect lessons to articulate small but devastating patches of cultural know gaps that cause failure.
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let students explore to find problems of their own to solve. Let them work within their passion. Stop pushing them towards yours
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We need to demand all schools all over the world to really, really develop 21st Century Skills.
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and start when they are young
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encourage collab with external stakeholders (charity or exerts) as part of the project process
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and let them connect to whom they need to find answers (as part of our education process)
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I see curriculum as a vehicle. The concepts can be the curriculum if you choose.
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A4 The reform that needs to happen is how to accurately asses this type of learning.
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strongly encourage? People don't tend to react well to demands
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A5 systems thinking is an inst theory that seeks the counter-intuitive ans & creative solutio to an intractable problem.
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connecting students w/ real world pioneers & global movers and shakers to understand that they CAN do something great!
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what assessment tools would work?
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or is assessment towards qualification another abstraction process down to social fracturing?
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How about including 21stC assessments and evaluations as well? We need buy in from
