#games4ed Archive

#games4ed discussions cover ways in which gaming can be used in education. Games mirror the way the human mind was designed to learn. They motivate players to take risks and actions, persevere through failures, set and achieve increasingly difficult goals, and devote attention, time, and effort to acquiring knowledge and skills. All this while the game is tracking the player’s actions and assessing the player’s achievements and skills. Isn’t this what we want from education?

Thursday December 13, 2018
8:00 PM EST

  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Welcome to #games4ed!! Please share your name, location, position, and your biggest assessment frustration (you know you have one!) #games4ed
  • MrCarlsonsClass Dec 13 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Will/NorthernMichigan/5th Grade/Helpless hand raisers on test days are the worst! #Games4ed
  • MarianaGSerrato Dec 13 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Hello everyone. Mariana Garcia serrato MS STEM from San Jose, CA Assessment frustration, seeing the anxiety riddled student that "you know knows" but cannot produce when timed or pressured. And of course mandated assessments. #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Heya Will! Love the Nic Cage gif! #games4ed
    In reply to @MrCarlsonsClass
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Amen to the mandated assessments. And SOOO many of them, b/c the state isn't happy with just one... #games4ed
    In reply to @MarianaGSerrato
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Here's a preview of tonight's questions for #games4ed! The first question starts at 7:06! We'll follow the Q1/A1 format Don't forget to tag your tweets with #games4ed!
  • MrBaskwill Dec 13 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Nick Baskwill Grade 5 NS Canada - Standardized tests....the worst #Games4ed
  • MNeumire Dec 13 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Hello all. Mike Neumire, instructional technology specialist in Rochester, NY. Assessment frustrates me when it doesn’t answer the question, “what do I do next?” #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Hi all! Melissa from Nebraska, 11-12 ELA. My assessment frustration: Questions that look for minute details. Or memorization that students won't need again. #games4ed
  • teachingfactor Dec 13 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Hello #games4ed - wishing you a wonderful holiday season. I’m Michele, an 8th grade #gamified ELA teacher in NY
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Hi there! And yes, standardized tests are just blechy. #games4ed
    In reply to @MrBaskwill
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Happy Friday, Mike!!! Glad you made it!! #games4ed
    In reply to @MNeumire
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Same to you, Michele! Hope the holiday countdown time has been good to you! #games4ed
    In reply to @teachingfactor
  • echard_a Dec 13 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Hi everyone, I'm Allison Echard, Lewistown, PA. Currently a pre-service teacher at Grove City College for high school English and Theatre. Something that has frustrated me as an undergrad is how to create lessons that resonate with students and work with state tests #games4ed
  • teachingfactor Dec 13 @ 8:05 PM EST
    State Assessments are big business and nothing else, Ts can give you a better assessment of their Ss than a test created by big business #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Q1: Adventures are something we DO and experience. What have you done (or could you do) to make assessments more of an experience for students that they actually look forward to doing? #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Hello Ally! Thrilled you can join in tonight! And you've mentioned a very valid concern--making sure learning resonates with students! #games4ed
    In reply to @echard_a
  • teachingfactor Dec 13 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Sending you and your family all the best! It’s been a tough start to the school year but always happy to connect with my PLF #games4ed
    In reply to @mpilakow
  • MarianaGSerrato Dec 13 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Between iReady and State, our stduents spend the last month of school literally testing every day! #games4ed
    In reply to @mpilakow
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Absolutely agree. Lots of taxpayer money going right to test makers. #Games4ed
    In reply to @teachingfactor
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:08 PM EST
    I'm sorry. Hugs. I so hope the second half of the year is better than the first! #Games4ed
    In reply to @teachingfactor
  • MrBaskwill Dec 13 @ 8:08 PM EST
    A1: Make it more hands on and relevant. Have an assessment in the same style of my day to day teaching of being collaborative and right tools for the right job. #Games4ed
  • MarianaGSerrato Dec 13 @ 8:09 PM EST
    A1: I've done what @teachlikeaninja mentions, but the game changer for my assessments has been the Boss Battles. Students literally rush to my class to meet the boss and take the test. #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:09 PM EST
    That's just insane. I know our 3-8 grades are similar. High school has a bit more of a reprieve--it's mainly the 11th grade students who go through the constant assessing in April #games4ed
    In reply to @MarianaGSerrato
  • teachingfactor Dec 13 @ 8:09 PM EST
    A1: what if each question was a lock Ss had to unlock like a @breakoutEDU and @GooseChase remixed #games4ed
  • MrCarlsonsClass Dec 13 @ 8:09 PM EST
    A1-Assessing knowledge through @classcraftgame boss battles and quests has been my biggest ‘bang for my buck’. #games4ed
  • teachingfactor Dec 13 @ 8:10 PM EST
    #games4ed
    In reply to @mpilakow
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:11 PM EST
    I like! I never thought of a Goose Chase as in this way either. Students have to complete the Goose Chase to demonstrate the different standards/objectives. #games4ed
    In reply to @teachingfactor, @breakoutEDU, @GooseChase
  • MNeumire Dec 13 @ 8:11 PM EST
    A1: anything that makes it feel more like a journey than a performance. I recently discovered Twine. Allows you to embed user properties like health or money, whatever works! #games4ed
  • teachingfactor Dec 13 @ 8:11 PM EST
    Love my boss battles on @classcraftgame #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:11 PM EST
    I always seem to forget about those! I think I should use one of those Monday as we wrap up this unit of vocab! #Games4ed
    In reply to @MrCarlsonsClass, @classcraftgame
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:12 PM EST
    Q2: Adventures usually include choices that we make. What choices do you include in assessments? Or in what ways could you include more choices for students? #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:12 PM EST
    OOOOHHH! My seniors just did paper prototyypes of Choose Your Own Adventures today! I'm so excited to see them transfer to the digital form next week!! #Games4ed
    In reply to @MNeumire
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:14 PM EST
    Isn't this the truth?! #games4ed We literally spend 24 hours throughout the year on test prep for the ACT. Ugh. #Games4ed
    • Bill_Huber_ Dec 13 @ 8:10 PM EST
      Without a shadow of a doubt standardized tests as the gatekeepers to college #OfficeSpaceED
      In reply to @MrPowley, @HeckAwesome, @mrmatera, @MrBillingsclass, @tishrich, @maineteacher, @MarianaGSerrato, @Rdene915, @teachlikeaninja, @MrsCford_tweets, @MeehanEDU, @mpilakow
  • teachingfactor Dec 13 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A2: what if Ss has choices which questions to answer on the test. For example, I gave a reading quiz & told Ss they could answer any 20 of the 30 questions #games4ed
  • MrCarlsonsClass Dec 13 @ 8:14 PM EST
    I’ve also been setting up escape rooms and my own breakouts for quizzes. Adds an element of teamwork and urgency to the work:) #games4ed
    In reply to @mpilakow, @classcraftgame
  • MarianaGSerrato Dec 13 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A2: Does multiple choice count? JK Choice would come into play in performance tasks. How are you going to demonstrate that you know and can "solve this". #games4ed
  • MrBaskwill Dec 13 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A2: Depending on the topic I like having Ss decide the best way to present what they know. Poster, paper, video or code #Games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:15 PM EST
    A colleague of mine is using a Hyperdoc for a semester test (required for us). I'm thinking of doing the same and making it more like a menu of options for Ss to choose from for semester assessment. #Games4ed
    • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:12 PM EST
      Q2: Adventures usually include choices that we make. What choices do you include in assessments? Or in what ways could you include more choices for students? #games4ed
  • MrRoughton Dec 13 @ 8:15 PM EST
    Fun Fact: I got a takedown notice for a project I posted because I called it Choose Your Own Adventure! Hurrah for copyright law! #games4ed
    In reply to @mpilakow, @MNeumire
  • MrRoughton Dec 13 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A2) Our written assessments are all "pick a side" style questions where students use any of a series of documents as their evidence. #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:16 PM EST
    I love this idea, Will! #games4ed
    • MrCarlsonsClass Dec 13 @ 8:14 PM EST
      I’ve also been setting up escape rooms and my own breakouts for quizzes. Adds an element of teamwork and urgency to the work:) #games4ed
      In reply to @mpilakow, @classcraftgame
  • MNeumire Dec 13 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A2: measuring the journey means more to me than a one-shot performance. How many tries? What did previous tries look like? Google forms with color changing spreadsheet would show how they used wrong answers to get to the right answer #games4ed
  • MrCarlsonsClass Dec 13 @ 8:16 PM EST
    Agree! My students are starting to lean heavy on google slides but some prefer the old school collaborative poster. #games4ed
    In reply to @MrBaskwill
  • teachingfactor Dec 13 @ 8:16 PM EST
    Yes, after winter break I am unveiling my To Kill a Mickingbird break in with my Ss - teamwork and cooperation unlocks close reading and understanding #games4ed
    In reply to @MrCarlsonsClass, @mpilakow, @classcraftgame
  • echard_a Dec 13 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A2: Would it be helpful or harmful to link student grades to extra points given in Classcraft? Perhaps then students can feel more ownership over what content they are producing on tests?#games4ed
  • MarianaGSerrato Dec 13 @ 8:17 PM EST
    What??? Guess it could be Choose your own journey. #games4ed
    In reply to @MrRoughton, @mpilakow, @MNeumire
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:18 PM EST
    Q3: Usually, we have support when we go on adventures, be it supplies, tools, or people we bring along. What do you allow students to have in their "tool belt" as they prepare for their boss battle/assessment? #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:18 PM EST
    And overall, education needs more performance assessments. Isn't that how the real world works--performance, not just how you do on a test in a theoretical situation? #Games4ed
    In reply to @MarianaGSerrato
  • teachingfactor Dec 13 @ 8:18 PM EST
    My dystopian quest went from badges to hyperdoc this fall. Love the self paced reading writing workshop culture it created in my classroom #games4ed
    In reply to @mpilakow
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:19 PM EST
    Wow. Good to know! Maybe we can just rename it to "Choose Your Own Adventuresome Experience"? #Games4ed
    In reply to @MrRoughton, @MNeumire
  • MrRoughton Dec 13 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A3) This year I started doing a "Supply Drop" before the test where students are reminded of the key topics in the unit and they evaluate how they might use them on the test. #games4ed
  • MrBaskwill Dec 13 @ 8:19 PM EST
    My Ss can have different eq and armor, also some special skills or powers picked up along the way to help them out #Games4ed
  • MarianaGSerrato Dec 13 @ 8:20 PM EST
    Exactly. It should not be about answering random questions, but rather what can you do with the knowledge you've gained. Goest to grading and GPAs, when I tell my students that literally noone in my adut life has ever asked me what my HS GPA was. #games4ed
    In reply to @mpilakow
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:20 PM EST
    This is great, Kevin. And far more real-world than most writing assessments #games4ed
    In reply to @MrRoughton
  • MrH_AOH Dec 13 @ 8:20 PM EST
    A3 - I like to see a Boss Battle as a way of showing independent use of any tools that might be helpful. Need a multiplication chart? Great. Using a calculator? That’s ok. This is a time for accuracy and efficiency. Don’t miss. #games4ed
    In reply to @mpilakow
  • teachingfactor Dec 13 @ 8:21 PM EST
    Grades and game points are completely separate in my classroom. Quizzes don’t count for a grade but my own assessment what I need to reteach but use @classcraftgame grade converter to earn XP on quizzes #games4ed
    • echard_a Dec 13 @ 8:17 PM EST
      A2: Would it be helpful or harmful to link student grades to extra points given in Classcraft? Perhaps then students can feel more ownership over what content they are producing on tests?#games4ed
  • MrH_AOH Dec 13 @ 8:21 PM EST
    Love the supply drop! I’ve used that metaphor myself. 🧰 #Games4ed
    In reply to @MrRoughton
  • echard_a Dec 13 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A3: It would be amazing to use a gameshow type choice in assessments. Poll the class for a questions could be marking the answer that most of the class has given for the assignment or phone a friend could be to pick the answer a classmate of their choosing chose. #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:22 PM EST
    Definitely a great point. I had a color-based design assignment with Macbeth, and though most chose digital method, a few still wanted to get out the markers and drawing paper. Sometimes it just feels good to go old school #games4ed
    In reply to @MrCarlsonsClass, @MrBaskwill
  • MarianaGSerrato Dec 13 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A3: I allow everything, Google, notes, even each other. Love the CER conversations that ensue as they explain why to each other. #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:24 PM EST
    Q4: What role should student reflection play in their assessments? How do you keep encouraging students to reflect on their performance? #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:24 PM EST
    I love that book. #games4ed
    In reply to @teachingfactor, @MrCarlsonsClass, @classcraftgame
  • MrH_AOH Dec 13 @ 8:24 PM EST
    A3 - There is a chance that some of my students might have a power up item as well that will allow them certain abilities during a boss battle, such as hints, study notes, etc. #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:24 PM EST
    This is so cool! Love the name! #games4ed
    • MrRoughton Dec 13 @ 8:19 PM EST
      A3) This year I started doing a "Supply Drop" before the test where students are reminded of the key topics in the unit and they evaluate how they might use them on the test. #games4ed
  • teachingfactor Dec 13 @ 8:24 PM EST
    My Ss have their English Notebooks and can use them on all assessments it’s their oracle of knowledge - my class is not about memorization but applying skills #games4ed
  • echard_a Dec 13 @ 8:26 PM EST
    A4: I think reflection journals or specific reflection questions in assessment should count for a significant amount of points so students continue to fall in love with the content or how they use it, not just memorize. #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:26 PM EST
    I'm with @teachingfactor that my grades/points are separate. Ss can earn points for other activities (or just luck sometimes), while grades are earned through work, corrections, and end-of-unit conferences #games4ed
    In reply to @echard_a, @teachingfactor
  • MrRoughton Dec 13 @ 8:27 PM EST
    A4) I wish I had (or used) more time for reflection. I've done some Mission Debriefs where I share sample test answers as a class and we deconstruct them. It is very effective but takes time. #games4ed
  • MarianaGSerrato Dec 13 @ 8:27 PM EST
    A4: Part of my practice includes a grade reflection. What did you do well, what helped you, what areas do you need help with? This is needed especially when they ask for a retake #games4ed
  • MarianaGSerrato Dec 13 @ 8:28 PM EST
    Same here. Both systems are separate for the reasons mentioned. #games4ed
    In reply to @mpilakow, @echard_a, @teachingfactor
  • teachingfactor Dec 13 @ 8:28 PM EST
    Every quest ends with some sort of reflection. It is key for learn to learn my Ss thinking and add what they know that I might not have assessed or noticed #games4ed
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:28 PM EST
    And I love that you allow everything. Me too. Got vocab notes? Feel free to use them. Need to check spelling? Go for it. That's what you would do for a job, right? #Games4ed
    In reply to @MarianaGSerrato
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:29 PM EST
    Can I get an Amen? #games4ed
    • teachingfactor Dec 13 @ 8:24 PM EST
      My Ss have their English Notebooks and can use them on all assessments it’s their oracle of knowledge - my class is not about memorization but applying skills #games4ed
  • MarianaGSerrato Dec 13 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Someone once mentioned adding a "What question would you have liked to see and was not asked". Your response just reminded me of that and hopefully I won't forget again #makinganote #games4ed
    In reply to @teachingfactor
  • MrH_AOH Dec 13 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Our numeracy lessons are presented as rooms in a dungeon, and I reward thorough and accurate work with items and loot. I often compare incomplete work to a low investigation check and encourage Ss to go back and “take a closer look” #Games4ed
    In reply to @mpilakow
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:30 PM EST
    A4: I've been using @sowntogrow quite a bit this year for reflections. Ss reflect on objectives and how they did, and then I add my reflections of their work. Then we chat and grade. Time consuming, but importnat #games4ed
  • teachingfactor Dec 13 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Yes, no teacher said you have 40 minutes and write me your personal meh essay - we want personal best and we want Ss to show their best #games4ed
    • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:28 PM EST
      And I love that you allow everything. Me too. Got vocab notes? Feel free to use them. Need to check spelling? Go for it. That's what you would do for a job, right? #Games4ed
      In reply to @MarianaGSerrato
  • MarianaGSerrato Dec 13 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Exactly. When I don't know I look for it. Why should I not give the same to my students. #games4ed
    In reply to @mpilakow
  • MrCarlsonsClass Dec 13 @ 8:30 PM EST
    A4- Provide a rubric up front and leave 1 section blank. Kids decide on one element of their presentation for me to focus on. #games4ed
  • MrRoughton Dec 13 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Partial amen from me. I've limited what my kids can use this year strictly for time purposes. They were coming in unprepared and spending WAY too much time digging through notes. Organizing them ahead of time by topic has helped limit their time searching. #games4ed
    In reply to @mpilakow
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:31 PM EST
    That was another fast and crazy and enlightening hour of #games4ed! Love the Goose Chase idea, and I've got some new ideas for more student choice on upcoming semester tests. Thank you ALL! Have a wonderful weekend--and holiday season!! #games4ed
  • teachingfactor Dec 13 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Love this - have you ever had Ss creat their own exam? #games4ed
    • MarianaGSerrato Dec 13 @ 8:30 PM EST
      Someone once mentioned adding a "What question would you have liked to see and was not asked". Your response just reminded me of that and hopefully I won't forget again #makinganote #games4ed
      In reply to @teachingfactor
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:32 PM EST
    And that totally makes sense. Plus, you're teaching soft skills doing that. They probably gain just as much doing the organizing as they do from the assessment #games4ed
    In reply to @MrRoughton
  • mpilakow - Moderator Dec 13 @ 8:33 PM EST
    I've done this in the past....and I need to do it again! I just had Ss set writing goals for next semester....I will use that extra space for that! Thanks for the great reminder! #games4ed
    In reply to @MrCarlsonsClass
  • teachingfactor Dec 13 @ 8:33 PM EST
    I see that too and taught Ss the book mark strategy and also give graphic organizer to pull out textual evidence. Ss awarded for their preparation & use of these tools - game changer #games4ed
    In reply to @MrRoughton, @mpilakow
  • MarianaGSerrato Dec 13 @ 8:34 PM EST
    I have. Every so often a couple of days before I have students turn in questions letting them know that I'll select some from those. It is sometimes crazy what they come up with and the love it when they find "their question" included ;) #games4ed
    In reply to @teachingfactor
  • teachingfactor Dec 13 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Thank you #games4ed and have a super weekend.
  • MarianaGSerrato Dec 13 @ 8:36 PM EST
    Thank you all for the great conversation. @mpilakow as always it's been a pleasure. 6 teaching days ... Enjoy your weekend. #games4ed
  • Rfpeterson80 Dec 13 @ 8:45 PM EST
    looking for great review game ideas. I love grudgeball but just looking for other ideas too. #xplap #tlap #sschat #games4ed #gamification