#langchat Archive

#LangChat is dedicated to the discussion of topics associated with issues and trends in world language instruction and learning. Educators, administrators, learners, and aficionados of world languages are encouraged to participate and share their experiences and input on various topics such as new ways to teach vocabulary, using music in the language classroom, and making standards-based grading valid. This chat is also unique in that it brings together language educators worldwide and from different contexts (elementary, secondary, higher education, etc.) and languages.

Thursday February 7, 2019
8:00 PM EST

  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Good evening #langchat! Let's start with introductions - tell us who you are, where and what you teach, and something good that happened this week!
  • ProfeRandolph Feb 7 @ 8:02 PM EST
    LJ Randolph. Spanish and methods professor. Wilmington, NC. #langchat
  • Mr_Fernie Feb 7 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Hi! Albert here from Orlando. I teach K-8 Spanish and I haven't been able to participate in #langchat in a long time, glad to be back at it!
    In reply to @MmeFarab
  • madamednmichael Feb 7 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Bonsoir ! Dawn Michael, prof de français au niveau lycéen, Central Ohio. One good thing: 10 days after neck surgery, can walk a mile! #langchat
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:04 PM EST
    I'm Wendy, teaching French 1 and AP in NE Ohio. One good thing that happened to me this week is feeling some AP student engagement, which doesn't always happen! #langchat
  • YS_Bentz Feb 7 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Julia Bentz - I teach HS Spanish in York, PA. This is my first #langchat!
    In reply to @MmeFarab
  • SenoritaDobleS Feb 7 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Hello #langchat! I’m Kristin and I teach Spanish 1 and 2 at a high school in Michigan! :)
  • magisterb480 Feb 7 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Chris, Latin, Buffalo, NY, one good thing? I presented last weekend at a language teacher conference in Syracuse about my story creation process! And my Latin 2s continue to show amazing progress. #langchat
  • GMancuso13 Feb 7 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Bonsoir! Gretchen from CT, middle school French. Something good from this week = great workshop with @MmeBlouwolff at #NECTFL19 today! #langchat
  • MmeGoodenough Feb 7 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Lisa here, French 2-AP in Michigan #langchat
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:06 PM EST
    All right, let's get started with these questions! #langchat
  • VTracy7 Feb 7 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Viviana from Louisiana here. I teach #Spanish for #Middles #langchat My good thing: feeling lots of support from my admin. It's been a rough week but I know my admin have my back.
  • MmeGoodenough Feb 7 @ 8:07 PM EST
    I had a fun conversation w French 3 Ss about how to act on a date #langchat
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Q1 Q1 Q1 When students are ready, how do you scaffold output? #langchat
  • profelopez716 Feb 7 @ 8:08 PM EST
    #langchat Melisa from Southern Illinois! I teach Spanish levels 1, 3 and 4 ❤️
  • magisterb480 Feb 7 @ 8:08 PM EST
    A1 I've been using student illustrations as a writing prompt for especially Latin 1 and 2. #langchat
  • profelopez716 Feb 7 @ 8:09 PM EST
    #langchat Melisa from Southern Illinois. Spanish...so the best part of this week is #woolyweek19 alllll the days!
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:09 PM EST
    A1 for my novices especially, I like to build up their stamina by 1) giving lots of input, 2) let them interact with one language chunk at a time, and 3) surprising them with how much they can say! #langchat
  • GMancuso13 Feb 7 @ 8:09 PM EST
    A1-For written output, sentence starters and sentence frames help my 7th graders a lot #langchat
  • VTracy7 Feb 7 @ 8:09 PM EST
    A1: for me it depends on the student and the activity #langchat
  • MmeGoodenough Feb 7 @ 8:09 PM EST
    A1- slowly build expectations. Start with a simplified objective, then keep adding to it. #langchat
  • mjmergen Feb 7 @ 8:10 PM EST
    #langchat Matthew from NJ. I teach French 1, 2, and AP.
  • ProfeRandolph Feb 7 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1 I love the emphasis on “when students are ready”. Students need lots and lots of input and opportunities to process before we can expect them to be comfortable with output. #langchat
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:10 PM EST
    Yes! Sentence starters are key to productive output! #langchat
    In reply to @GMancuso13
  • madamednmichael Feb 7 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1: love this Q! I use Gianfranco Conti's chunking/lexis method of providing phrases/complete sentences as input for Ss to use to build output #langchat
  • Mr_Fernie Feb 7 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1 #langchat for writing, highly structured input (stories with very similar plot lines) Speaking-That's where i have the most trouble getting the students comfortable with more than 1 word answers
  • profelopez716 Feb 7 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1: draw it first. Then write it out. Allows students time to think before writing. #langchat
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:11 PM EST
    Absolutely! We totally agree! #langchat
    In reply to @ProfeRandolph
  • SenoritaDobleS Feb 7 @ 8:11 PM EST
    A1: I like to build up their confidence and have them start talking with just partners and then eventually larger groups. For writing output I give sentence starters or examples before they begin! #langchat
  • YS_Bentz Feb 7 @ 8:11 PM EST
    A1 - I like to have them work together as much as possible. Get them to feel comfortable discussing the answer with a partner first, then answer for the whole class #langchat
    In reply to @MmeFarab
  • profelopez716 Feb 7 @ 8:11 PM EST
    A1: speaking can be 1 or 2 words responses or sentence starters for novices with follow up questions that could be longer responses! #langchat
  • Mr_Fernie Feb 7 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1 #langchat for interpersonal activities, I have found success in letting the Ss write answers ahead of time and reference them
  • VTracy7 Feb 7 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1: for written output I've been using story frames and outlines or just word banks in L1 depending on the student's comfort #langchat #affectivefilter
  • magisterb480 Feb 7 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1 I also use one word at a time stories, draw/write/pass activities, and other simple ways for them to use new words in context #langchat
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1 Today my novices were SO successful doing a little presentational speaking because I let them draw ahead of time! #langchat
  • magisterb480 Feb 7 @ 8:13 PM EST
    A1 Speaking, I like using Tina Hargaden's Partner Question and Answer Game #langchat
  • profelopez716 Feb 7 @ 8:13 PM EST
    A1: give input, then a little output, more input, more output. Sometimes students need a little break from the output and we need to add more input to increase their confidence. #langchat
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:14 PM EST
    Absolutely! I think output can definitely be short bursts and then right back to the input! #langchat
    In reply to @profelopez716
  • mjmergen Feb 7 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A1: I'm finding lately that targeted word walls and displays are helpful across modes ... and that Ss are even more likely to use them than a device! #langchat
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:15 PM EST
    Hmmmm ... maybe making it a challenge could be fun? My 8th graders love rising to a good challenge. #langchat
    In reply to @Mr_Fernie
  • Mr_Fernie Feb 7 @ 8:15 PM EST
    #langchat I also like having word walls made only of words the students have looked up while doing activities-gives them ownership and makes their work a contribution to all students who see it
    In reply to @mjmergen
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:16 PM EST
    The more I learn, the more I realize that word walls are a necessity! #langchat
    • mjmergen Feb 7 @ 8:14 PM EST
      A1: I'm finding lately that targeted word walls and displays are helpful across modes ... and that Ss are even more likely to use them than a device! #langchat
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:16 PM EST
    Q2 What conditions are the best for prepared output? #langchat
  • YS_Bentz Feb 7 @ 8:17 PM EST
    I haven´t tried this yet - maybe it´s about time I do! #langchat
    In reply to @MmeFarab
  • profelopez716 Feb 7 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A2: the best output comes after giving TONS of input. Ss need to have language available to be able to use it! #langchat
  • Mr_Fernie Feb 7 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A2 #langchat Students have had lots of input, students have detailed instructions on what they need to be doing, students understand that they're not going to be able to speak/write like they do in L1 and understand that that's ok
  • monsieurmergen Feb 7 @ 8:18 PM EST
    Totally agree! I've had my essential 7 up all year and now that level 1 are engaging in more output they are noticing and using them. #langchat
    In reply to @madamednmichael, @mjmergen
  • profelopez716 Feb 7 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A2: low stress that allows for retakes. Some ss get nervous and don’t do well under pressure. I always allow a retake of some sort for ss to show their best work! #langchat
  • magisterb480 Feb 7 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A2 Yeah, pretty much this. #langchat
    • profelopez716 Feb 7 @ 8:17 PM EST
      A2: the best output comes after giving TONS of input. Ss need to have language available to be able to use it! #langchat
  • AggieAshley Feb 7 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A1: Give them guided sentence starters and slowly wean them from those. #langchat
  • SenoritaDobleS Feb 7 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A2: The best conditions for output are a comfortable classroom environment that fosters the ideas that mistakes are OKAY and are going to happen! It helps us learn! #langchat
  • YS_Bentz Feb 7 @ 8:19 PM EST
    Q2 - definitely a comfortable environment where students feel it´s OK to make mistakes, and feel like they know what they are supposed to do, know the vocab #langchat
    In reply to @MmeFarab
  • madamednmichael Feb 7 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A2: Hmm. For Novices, I'm going to say low risk/low affect as often as possible before assessment situation. Short, clearly delimited tasks. Based on input source that is at hand for reference. Thinking out loud. #langchat
  • VTracy7 Feb 7 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A2: for spoken output IMO small group and partner is best AFTER Ss have gotten to know each other #langchat
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:20 PM EST
    A2 Lowering the affective filter - I never assess or expect output first thing - I like to ease in, give input, practice, and then let them give it a go! #langchat
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:21 PM EST
    Don't forget that tonight chat follows the Q/A format - For every question (Q1, Q2, Q3, etc.) you can respond with A1, A2, A3! And don't forget that #langchat!
  • VTracy7 Feb 7 @ 8:22 PM EST
    We're on Q2 #langchat
  • AggieAshley Feb 7 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A2: Students need to be continually told to not strive for perfection. Make practice fun and strive for activities that will allow them to connect in fun, relatable ways. #langchat
  • madamednmichael Feb 7 @ 8:23 PM EST
    A2: I also find predictability of tasks helps lower affect. My 2s and 3s know every Monday they will write 3 sentences about their weekend. Some will have already thought about it when they come in Monday #langchat
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:23 PM EST
    Yes! Just today I took the time to remind kids that "um, uh, ah, mmmm" are necessary and normal, as well as making mistakes! #langchat
    • AggieAshley Feb 7 @ 8:22 PM EST
      A2: Students need to be continually told to not strive for perfection. Make practice fun and strive for activities that will allow them to connect in fun, relatable ways. #langchat
  • MmeGoodenough Feb 7 @ 8:24 PM EST
    A2- still struggling with spoken output. Tried explaining proficiency levels, but they still want perfection , and give up :-( #langchat
  • ProfeRandolph Feb 7 @ 8:25 PM EST
    A2 Creating a context in which students actually want to communicate. If it’s the right balance of high interest and level appropriate, they will be more motivated to take chances. It becomes more about the communication and self-expression rather than lang practice. #langchat
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:25 PM EST
    What kind of "perfection" are they looking for? #langchat
    In reply to @MmeGoodenough
  • profelopez716 Feb 7 @ 8:25 PM EST
    A2: focusing on comprehensibility and not just are the sentences 100% correct. Did I understand what ss meant? If so then they need to know that! #langchat
  • profehyman Feb 7 @ 8:26 PM EST
    Do you do TL and English? I try to use images when possible but I've also been wondering if English is more efficient, at times. #langchat
    In reply to @MmeFarab
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:26 PM EST
    This is so true! I needed the reminder recently that kids signed up for my class to "speak French" and I need to allow them to do that within the comfortable confines of their current ability level. #langchat
    In reply to @ProfeRandolph
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:27 PM EST
    I try to use images for vocabulary, but nothing is easier than English checks for comprehension with verb structures. #langchat
    In reply to @profehyman
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:28 PM EST
    Q3 What conditions are the best for spontaneous output? #langchat
  • mjmergen Feb 7 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A2 Giving Ss a manageable and achievable set of criteria that prepared output should include helps. Ss are pretty good at sorting out what doesn't have to included from there. #langchat
  • Mr_Fernie Feb 7 @ 8:28 PM EST
    #langchat And responding to Ss in the TL when they try to speak in the TL shows them that they're being comprehensible and understood and helps with their confidence
    In reply to @MmeFarab, @ProfeRandolph
  • madamednmichael Feb 7 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A3: Something humorous or provocative AND CULTURALLY RELEVANT. Know your students. If they wouldn't react to or engage w it in English, don't bother. #langchat
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:29 PM EST
    Yes! Also, I've learned that nothing motivates like a high five when you're impressed with how well a student expressed their point in the TL! #langchat
    In reply to @Mr_Fernie, @ProfeRandolph
  • profelopez716 Feb 7 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A3: I think the best spontaneous output comes from rejoinders. Having those up around the room and using them as passwords has helped students interact at the best times! #langchat
  • PRHSspanish Feb 7 @ 8:29 PM EST
    Ooooo! Just landed for #NECTFL19!! What have I missed?! This topic and @MmeFarab both freaking rock!! #langchat
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:30 PM EST
    YES! I have some but am doing a terrible job of incorporating them! #langchat
    In reply to @profelopez716
  • VTracy7 Feb 7 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Yes! Was meaning lost? No? Great job! High 5s all around. #langchat
    • profelopez716 Feb 7 @ 8:25 PM EST
      A2: focusing on comprehensibility and not just are the sentences 100% correct. Did I understand what ss meant? If so then they need to know that! #langchat
  • Mr_Fernie Feb 7 @ 8:30 PM EST
    A3 #langchat Engagement and comfort and a classroom culture of using the TL as much as possible
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:30 PM EST
    We're on Q3! What conditions are the best for spontaneous output? #langchat
    In reply to @PRHSspanish
  • magisterb480 Feb 7 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Reminder to me to use my rejoinder signs more often... #langchat
    • profelopez716 Feb 7 @ 8:29 PM EST
      A3: I think the best spontaneous output comes from rejoinders. Having those up around the room and using them as passwords has helped students interact at the best times! #langchat
  • AggieAshley Feb 7 @ 8:31 PM EST
    A3: Consistently use high frequency words and phrases and modeling various types of output at proficiency levels. I use donut/hamburger/gourmet loaded burger analogy. Don't give me a donut as a response L1 when I at least want a plain burger L2. #langchat
  • MmeGoodenough Feb 7 @ 8:31 PM EST
    They want to speak in French the way they do in L1. If they don’t have all the words, they 🛑 . ESP, my F3 kids. #langchat
    In reply to @MmeFarab
  • VTracy7 Feb 7 @ 8:32 PM EST
    Q3 up and running! #LangChat
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:32 PM EST
    A3 I've found that scaffolding is key. For my intermediates, writing questions helps them to guide conversation, but their responses to peers questions are still off-the-cuff. Win win! #langchat
  • AggieAshley Feb 7 @ 8:32 PM EST
    A3: And always focus on the subject that is most fascinating to them to talk about-- themselves! #langchat
  • Mr_Fernie Feb 7 @ 8:32 PM EST
    And treating them like they're out in the real world using language rather than trying to correct all their errors all the time #langchat
    In reply to @MmeFarab, @ProfeRandolph
  • VTracy7 Feb 7 @ 8:32 PM EST
    Q3: I'm finding that classroom community plays a HUGE role in this. My classes w/lots of friendships have the most "banter" This year for example #Mocos2019 was born from the Witty banter of my levels 2s and their obsession w/rejoinders #langchat
  • janina_hanson Feb 7 @ 8:33 PM EST
    🎉🎉🎉 #WoolyWeek19 just got even better!!! Who loves books? I do!!!!📚 How is your #woolyweek19 going? We’re a little bit behind, but we’re loving it!!!🤩🥳 #langchat #spanishteachers #CI #comprehensibleinput #clasedeespañol #teachmorespanish
  • VTracy7 Feb 7 @ 8:33 PM EST
    whooops! I meant A3 #langchat
    • VTracy7 Feb 7 @ 8:32 PM EST
      Q3: I'm finding that classroom community plays a HUGE role in this. My classes w/lots of friendships have the most "banter" This year for example #Mocos2019 was born from the Witty banter of my levels 2s and their obsession w/rejoinders #langchat
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:33 PM EST
    YES! Error correction is not. worth. my. time. #langchat
    In reply to @Mr_Fernie, @ProfeRandolph
  • JeannieStarman Feb 7 @ 8:33 PM EST
    A3. Lowering that elusive affective filter (small groups, scaffolding, classroom climate that rewards growth mindset as opposed to static perfection) #langchat
  • YS_Bentz Feb 7 @ 8:34 PM EST
    A3 - I like to do a lot of walk around the room and talk to each other activities. Low-key, and it is still pretty guided, but gets them up and talking to different people. I can join in and hear what they have to say #langchat
    In reply to @VTracy7
  • SenoritaDobleS Feb 7 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A3: for spontaneous output it’s helpful to give them question ideas to talk to others about and making sure those questions are ones they know! #langchat
  • MsilvaONHS Feb 7 @ 8:35 PM EST
    #langchat A2. Allowing lots of opportunities for Ss production of language (writing and speaking). Using interactive activities with engaging topics that Ss care about so that they want to communicate their ideas, opinions.
  • JoyNicole12 Feb 7 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A2: after lots of input in the TL! #langchat
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:36 PM EST
    Q4 What procedures do you have in place to ensure that all students are heard? #langchat
  • VTracy7 Feb 7 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A3: A recent example all in L2 btw:" E" has lots of boogers! How gross! That's not very attractive. #langchat This is after 2 years together. Magic I tell you. Time. Community. Input. Output.
  • JoyNicole12 Feb 7 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A3: after lots of time in the TL! Language acquisition is SLOW. I have to keep reminding myself, these are novices. What should I be expecting of them? #langchat
  • mjmergen Feb 7 @ 8:37 PM EST
    Agree! I found that a card of sentence starters relevant to the task for the desk or the pocket is both useful and a security blanket A3: #langchat
    In reply to @MmeFarab
  • profelopez716 Feb 7 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A4: I sometimes allow ss to write answers on white boards so they don’t blurt. Also making sure ss know when it’s a fast paced conversation and when they need to take their time. I also let some ss know beforehand if I want them to answer the next question #langchat
  • Mr_Fernie Feb 7 @ 8:38 PM EST
    #langchat Agreed-it can be easy to think they should be able to do more than is realistically possible for them at the novice level
    In reply to @JoyNicole12
  • madamednmichael Feb 7 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A4: I don't story tell or do a lot of speaking that involves calling on students or taking volunteers. Mostly get them up and move with a requirement to speak to someone many different students, or sitting in groups where all take a turn. #langchat
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A4 Not output-specific but I try to make it my mission to talk to every kid every day. #langchat
  • AggieAshley Feb 7 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A4: I use varying types of media for output: person-to-person, FlipGrid, graphic organizers, sentence builders, Screen Castify, Bitmojis, EdPuzzle, etc.#langchat
  • JeannieStarman Feb 7 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A4. Diversification of activities that implore AND enable all to participate (I.e. inside outside circles, socratic seminars, frenzy tprs game, graffiti etc). Possibly one of the hardest and most fun parts of the job! #langchat
  • profelopez716 Feb 7 @ 8:40 PM EST
    This is why I love passwords. I get to let every ss know I see them. #langchat
    In reply to @MmeFarab
  • YS_Bentz Feb 7 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A4 - I love using whiteboards so each student has a chance to answer. I also do old-fashioned popsicle sticks with students names on them, so I get to hear from everyone, not just the ones who raise their hands #langchat
    In reply to @MmeFarab
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:41 PM EST
    A4 I'm also the queen of circulating to hear bits of conversation. I don't interject unless I can add to the conversation happening, but I like to hear little snippets of everyone's convo. #langchat
  • storyteaching Feb 7 @ 8:41 PM EST
    I like either/or questions, like Who's the better heroine Hermione or Katniss Everdeen? Ss practice w/partners then explain & discuss as a class. #langchat
    In reply to @madamednmichael
  • magisterb480 Feb 7 @ 8:41 PM EST
    A4 This isn't output necessarily but I take ideas from each student's story surveys (which are mainly done in English) to write each chapter of our ongoing Latin story. They love when we read and their contribution comes up, "Hey, I wrote that!" "That was my idea!" #langchat
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:43 PM EST
    My biggest is 30, my smallest is 17. I don't always "call on" them in the context of the class, but try to check in before/after/during as much as I can. During class, I use my craziness to get reactions from as many kids as I can. #langchat
    In reply to @madamednmichael
  • magisterb480 Feb 7 @ 8:43 PM EST
    I must also preface this by saying my classes are very small so personalization is key every day every way #langchat
  • JoyNicole12 Feb 7 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A4: also try to give LOTS of opportunity for open-forum style class discussion on opinion-based questions where there are no right or wrongs. #langchat
  • JoyNicole12 Feb 7 @ 8:44 PM EST
  • ProfeRandolph Feb 7 @ 8:44 PM EST
    Great ideas for making sure that all students participate. Another one of my favorite tech tools for quick, short bursts of presentational communication is Padlet. #langchat
    • AggieAshley Feb 7 @ 8:40 PM EST
      A4: I use varying types of media for output: person-to-person, FlipGrid, graphic organizers, sentence builders, Screen Castify, Bitmojis, EdPuzzle, etc.#langchat
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:44 PM EST
    Yes! Circulation to eavesdrop is my #1 priority. #langchat
    In reply to @JoyNicole12
  • profelopez716 Feb 7 @ 8:44 PM EST
    A4: 4 corners is a great way for everyone to “answer” and can ask follow up questions to a few as after every round! #langchat
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:46 PM EST
    Ooh, yes! I'd add Nearpod to this list because it can be input, output, and drawing! #langchat
    In reply to @ProfeRandolph
  • profelopez716 Feb 7 @ 8:47 PM EST
    It’s an idea I saw from @BryceHedstrom where he gives them a saying, rejoinder etc and ss say them to the T as they come in the classroom! #langchat
    In reply to @Luzgriselda, @MmeFarab, @BryceHedstrom
  • Mr_Fernie Feb 7 @ 8:47 PM EST
    #langchat I love having kids move around the room to choose their answers, especially with personal questions (birth months, favorite things-food, etc). This helps kids who don't like speaking up to contribute and show comprehension and participate
    • profelopez716 Feb 7 @ 8:44 PM EST
      A4: 4 corners is a great way for everyone to “answer” and can ask follow up questions to a few as after every round! #langchat
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:47 PM EST
    Q5 When and at what levels is it appropriate to expect output from students? #langchat
  • AggieAshley Feb 7 @ 8:47 PM EST
    I had my students choose to illustrate or create a Bitmoji when writing about where there were going to go in Latin America, what they were going to bring to wear, how the weather was going to be. I got some cute results! #langchat
    In reply to @JoyNicole12
  • VTracy7 Feb 7 @ 8:49 PM EST
    A4: We're working on meeting expectations. 1 person speaks, others listen, 100% participation. Opportunity also. Activities such as think-pair-share. #langchat
  • AggieAshley Feb 7 @ 8:49 PM EST
    It's an extension on Google that allows you to do a voiceover while recording what you're doing on your screen. It's perfect for presentational mode and for students who have major phobia of speaking in front of others. #langchat
    In reply to @JoyNicole12
  • JoyNicole12 Feb 7 @ 8:49 PM EST
    A5: There's no easy answer here! The main idea is that they should be in interpretive mode for a looonnngggg time. I hate the idea also of 'forcing' output. #langchat
  • profelopez716 Feb 7 @ 8:49 PM EST
    Q5: short bursts at novice level with memorized phrases; longer sentences at intermediate! If a one word answer would suffice in L1, then I ask a follow up to get more output in L2 #langchat
  • MsilvaONHS Feb 7 @ 8:50 PM EST
    #langchat A4 In my heritage courses, JOURNALING is a wonderful way for students to tell their stories. We build trust and strong relationships. I spend good time writing meaningful responses to their narratives (not academic feedback). I love it!
  • JoyNicole12 Feb 7 @ 8:50 PM EST
    A5: for reference, think about how long L1 learners are in the interpretive mode. Babies from the WOMB are learning language, and have no output for YEARS even though they produces phonemes in the L1 #langchat
  • Mr_Fernie Feb 7 @ 8:50 PM EST
    A5 #langchat As long as input is comprehensible, we can expect single word answers (yes/no, either/or) pretty much from the beginning. It's when we want to get more in-depth (why? How? other followup Qs) that we have to be patient
  • madamednmichael Feb 7 @ 8:51 PM EST
    A5 Oh là là, how many SLA battles have been fought about THIS. In my classroom, for true Novices, I only expect highly scaffolded output after lots of input. Lots. Increases incrementally over time. I am okay w focus on Interpretive mode for a minute. #langchat
  • magisterb480 Feb 7 @ 8:51 PM EST
    A5 I have Latin 1 kids who can write pretty decent sentences. But they can't write detailed papers. I have Latin 3 kids who have written full-page stories in the language but some who only write basic sentences. Acquisition is slow, peacemeal, & stage-like as BVP wrote #langchat
  • MsilvaONHS Feb 7 @ 8:52 PM EST
    A4. We also record video-responses to certain controversial ideas. Then Ss watch their classmates' videos and respond to them. This strategy has proven to promote not only linguistic proficiency but citizenship and support for each other. #langchat
  • profelopez716 Feb 7 @ 8:52 PM EST
    A5: sometimes we have to sit in the silence to allow intermediates to process spoken output. Let them think! Especially if it would require thinking in L1 #langchat
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:52 PM EST
    A5 The silent period is real. I understand quite a bit of SLA, but at the end of the day, my kids always ask to "practice" speaking, so I make sure that there is time for structured output after as much input as I can manage. #langchat
  • VTracy7 Feb 7 @ 8:53 PM EST
    A5: My novices write & speak, draw, and demonstrate understanding in non-verbal ways. It's messy. It's not amazing input for other learners but the Ss who do speak WANT to speak. #langchat #babysteps
  • YS_Bentz Feb 7 @ 8:53 PM EST
    A5 - Level 1 can definitely give short responses, and level 2 should be able to add a bit more detail. Every student is different, but I can expect all students to be able to contribute in some way, just at different levels #langchat
    In reply to @MmeFarab
  • VTracy7 Feb 7 @ 8:53 PM EST
    Q5 is up #langchat
  • JoyNicole12 Feb 7 @ 8:54 PM EST
    Also like to add for A4 that differentiation is amazing for engagement + output. Offer them CHOICES and they're more likely to contribute to conversation #langchat
  • profeashley Feb 7 @ 8:54 PM EST
    #langchat #ccflt
    • profeashley Feb 7 @ 8:54 PM EST
      What would you want from sound trap in the world language classroom? It’s like a google doc for audio! What would you want to support students on their proficiency journey? They want to design it for us!?
  • AggieAshley Feb 7 @ 8:55 PM EST
    A5: May be off-topic, but has anyone ever had a lip sync battle with their students with songs in the TL? I'm mulling over doing that. Just need to figure out objective and execution. #langchat
  • magisterb480 Feb 7 @ 8:55 PM EST
    A5 In Latin my output is mainly presentational writing, sometimes interpersonal writing. Speaking is mainly based on reading or acting out our stories or asking each other questions about it. I do writing activities often but interpretive mode is where they all shine #langchat
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:55 PM EST
    All right, #langchat, it's time for takeaways!
  • JeannieStarman Feb 7 @ 8:56 PM EST
    A5. I always felt really lucky that our NC state standards set a framework for proficiency level exit expectations by year of study (for all modes) to help frame a response to this very question from teachers 😃 #langchat
  • profelopez716 Feb 7 @ 8:56 PM EST
    TA: at the end of the day, know your students and meet them where they are at! Don’t expect perfection in TL but check to make sure message was received. #langchat
  • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:57 PM EST
    Yes! I'm glad that Ohio has one too so I don't have to guess. Though, I often wonder how much more helpful performance exit expectations would be ... 🤔 #langchat
    In reply to @JeannieStarman
  • magisterb480 Feb 7 @ 8:57 PM EST
    TA Cater output to your own students' needs. #langchat
  • madamednmichael Feb 7 @ 8:59 PM EST
    TA: I saw some other Ts practices/ideas for tasks that look interesting that I will try to incorporate. And much consensus in this group tonight. #langchat
  • magisterb480 Feb 7 @ 8:59 PM EST
    New York has Checkpoint A for the end of the first year and Checkpoint B for the end of the third year (Regents sequence). Checkpoint C is at the end of the fourth/fifth year of study. #langchat
    • MmeFarab Feb 7 @ 8:57 PM EST
      Yes! I'm glad that Ohio has one too so I don't have to guess. Though, I often wonder how much more helpful performance exit expectations would be ... 🤔 #langchat
      In reply to @JeannieStarman
  • YS_Bentz Feb 7 @ 8:59 PM EST
    TA - be less critical of mistakes and just get students engaged and talking! #langchat
    In reply to @MmeFarab