#swarmfbchat Archive

The ONLY defensive-themed chat on Twitter! Talking all things Defense and Game Planning. Tuesdays at 9pm EST.
Tuesday April 18, 2017
9:00 PM EDT
  • participatechat Apr 18 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    Participate in the upcoming #swarmfbchat by sharing resources and collaborating at https://t.co/P9PebFXEU6
  • rmacblue - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    9pm - Welcome coaches to the #swarmfbchat presented by @JustPlaySS Special Topic tonight - attacking the 21 personnel.
  • CoachRDes Apr 18 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    Ryan Desrochers, LB Coach and D.C. at Millennium High School, Goodyear, Az #StripeUp #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    The topic has been asked by multiple coaches - a bit of a challenge with our mult pos coaches and schemes - let's give it a go. #swarmfbchat
  • CODY_GARDNER Apr 18 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Cody Gardner DC/LB/RB PARK CITY, UT #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Besides, who doesn't need a little defensive chat after a day full of annoying vids/pics of Trips....yuck #swarmfbchat
  • CoachWelden Apr 18 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Mike Welden, DC and LB coach at Grafton High School, WI #swarmfbchat
  • CoachCurran42 Apr 18 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Bobby Curran Special Teams Coordinator Linebackers Coach Gilman School Baltimore, MD #swarmfbchat
  • CoachKizer Apr 18 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Chris Kizer. DC/DL. Arkadelphia, Ar. Finally a night off from track! #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Feel free to intro yourselves - follow each other - retweet and like for max exposure. Q1 in 5 minutes! #swarmfbchat
  • tknipp9 Apr 18 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Todd Knipp, Chesapeake HS, Pedro, OH #swarmfbchat
  • CoachHoneyman Apr 18 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Sam Honeyman DC/LB LaGrange High GA #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_Sneed_EM Apr 18 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Brandon Sneed, Charlotte, NC #swarmfbchat
  • Dsell75 Apr 18 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    David Sell, Assistant Head coach/Co-DC, Palo Duro HS, Amarillo, Tx #SWARMFBCHAT
  • coachjsam Apr 18 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Joseph Sam DC/LB at Mansfield Legacy Mansfield, TX #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Good to see some new names and, of course, our long-timers! Welcome coaches - happy to have you here tonight #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBLedesma Apr 18 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Edward Ledesma Oc/Qb coach Harlingen High,Texas. I was told the best off coaches learn from def coaches! #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • JRGrayson Apr 18 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    John Grayson Linebackers Coach Glenbard South HS Glen Ellyn, IL #SWARMFBCHAT
  • Coach_ZC Apr 18 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Zach Carlton - DC/DBs - Palmer Ridge HS, CO #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDiG Apr 18 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Vince DiGaetano @Wagner_Football #SWARMFBCHAT Def Assistant
  • rmacblue - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Ryan McCartney DC Seymour HS, IN Host of our lovely #swarmfbchat Gearing up for season 21
  • Mr_Tanner23 Apr 18 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Nate Tanner HC Summers Co HS Hinton,WV #swarmfbchat 💪🏼
  • CoachSimard Apr 18 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Bob Simard, Sutter HS, CA (OLine Coach listening in) #swarmfbchat
  • RogerBurtonwphs Apr 18 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Roger Burton West Point MS .. let's finally talk some defense with all this offense being talked on twitter ..#SWARMFBCHAT
  • zachdavis24 Apr 18 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    HFC Riverside High School Belle, WV #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Q1: When dealing with multiple sets - I first want to know, do you consider a WING a RB or WR if lined up outside of TE? #swarmfbchat
  • RogerBurtonwphs Apr 18 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    Let's all follow each other and get these intros in waiting on some questions #SWARMFBCHAT
  • zachdavis24 Apr 18 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    A1) We had this discussion today.. WR #SWARMFBCHAT
  • CoachRDes Apr 18 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    A1- what does he do best, block or go catch passes #swarmfbchat
  • coachjsam Apr 18 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    A1: all depends on how they use him within the scheme #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    Q1 cont: I would assume we all count him as a WR as it pertains to the passing game; I mean as far as how it effects the box? #swarmfbchat
  • tsbulldawgs64 Apr 18 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    Andy Swedenhjelm DC/LBs Newton High School, Newton, IA #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDuda Apr 18 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    Alex Duda Defensive Coordinator Dearborn HS (Dearborn, MI) #swarmfbchat
  • CoachLucch Apr 18 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    Ryan Lucchesi DC Muskego, WI #swarmfbchat
  • RogerBurtonwphs Apr 18 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    A1: Depends on what the offense is trying to do with that Wing is there to help block or run routes.. look at the Ath type #SWARMFBCHAT
  • coachblawson Apr 18 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    Brian Lawson- ILB- Jeff Davis High School- Hazlehurst, Ga #swarmfbchat
  • CoachKizer Apr 18 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A1: Depends on what they are wanting to do when they line up with the wing with their play calling #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDiG Apr 18 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A1: Depends who it is. Try to spend a lot of time clumping personnel and motion off bench. In-line blocker must burst bubble #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:08 PM EDT
      Q1: When dealing with multiple sets - I first want to know, do you consider a WING a RB or WR if lined up outside of TE? #swarmfbchat
  • CoachKizer Apr 18 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A1: Most time though will treat like a WR #swarmfbchat
  • CoachWelden Apr 18 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    RB if he is 3yrds or less, like flexbone will have wide wings, otherwise WR #swarmfbchat
  • zachdavis24 Apr 18 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A1) we have pressed the corner on the TE and put a LB on the wing if they like to kick or insert with him. #SWARMFBCHAT
  • CoachLucch Apr 18 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A1: Really depends on alignment and type of player. What they are trying to do with him as far as plays. I.D. thru film study. #swarmfbchat
  • coachblawson Apr 18 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A1) If he is anything further then 1x1 we count him as a WR. #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_Russell87 Apr 18 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    Dc @ 5a Port St Lucie High School in Florida #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBakk Apr 18 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    DB DLine Coach Mayville State University #swarmfbchat
  • CoachPierskalla Apr 18 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A1: for us it depends on what that player does, if arc motions or carries the ball- RB, if he blocks- WR, we chart this on hudl #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    Q1: Let's say this: How do we treat a Wing in the run game? Do we count him as a TE-type and need to account for gaps? #swarmfbchat
  • tknipp9 Apr 18 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A1: We always treat the Wing as a WR. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachHoneyman Apr 18 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A1 depends what the O is trying to accomplish. For us we would consider it a WR #swarmfbchat
  • Mr_Tanner23 Apr 18 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A1: a lot depends how they use him but majority of the time we treat him as a WR #SWARMFBCHAT
  • CODY_GARDNER Apr 18 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A1)Are we wanting 1 high or 2 high. Why the wing? Does the TE or Wing attack vertical? Then RB & 1 high. Scouting will tell #swarmfbchat
  • tajmarshall Apr 18 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    Taj Marshall Defensive Coordinator at Coral Gables Senior High #swarmfbchat
  • Dsell75 Apr 18 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    A1: If lined up outside of TE, we consider him a WR. #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:08 PM EDT
      Q1: When dealing with multiple sets - I first want to know, do you consider a WING a RB or WR if lined up outside of TE? #swarmfbchat
  • Mr_Stadem Apr 18 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    A1) It really depends if he can block or not. If he can block well, it changes things. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachLucch Apr 18 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    A1 cont: If TE/Wing, then we will likely address with our alignment/loss BTF. But again, depends what they are trying to do. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBullNY Apr 18 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    A1:depends on the offensive personnel. What they are looking to do with him. Could be extra blocking TE or motion option guy. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • Jcrouch17 Apr 18 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    First timer! Josh Crouch DC Wilson Central hs TN Let's talk some Defense! #SWARMFBCHAT
  • CoachKizer Apr 18 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    A1 Cont: We will make sure box wise, that we keep box stacked while not being outleveraged to that wing/TE side #swarmfbchat
  • zachdavis24 Apr 18 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    A1) have to match body types. That's our philosophy. #SWARMFBCHAT
  • CoachDuda Apr 18 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A1: We would consider him a WR, but based on scouting, we would adjust to his strengths (Reciever, Blocker, etc) #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDiG Apr 18 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A1: Yes. Must burst bubble. Also does he motion into backfield? #SWARMFBCHAT
    • rmacblue - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:12 PM EDT
      Q1: Let's say this: How do we treat a Wing in the run game? Do we count him as a TE-type and need to account for gaps? #swarmfbchat
  • CoachRDes Apr 18 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A1 (cont) use tendency to see if cross key to other backs benefits us #swarmfbchat
  • cahsfbchat Apr 18 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A1 depends on the type of offense if they are Pro I and add a wing treat it like a WR, if they are wing-t double wing, add gap #swarmfbchat
  • CoachKizer Apr 18 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A1 Cont: might drop safety and play 1 high to allow for box numbers and leverage #swarmfbchat
  • tknipp9 Apr 18 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A1: It depends on how the offense utilizes the Wing within their offense. #swarmfbchat
  • tsbulldawgs64 Apr 18 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A1) We will typically refer to it as a RB. Unless if during game planning they put a good WR there but haven't seen that #swarmfbchat
  • CODY_GARDNER Apr 18 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    In general, any excuse to bring more bodies to the box is fine by me. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachWelden Apr 18 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    A1cont, like everyone said, scouting will play a lot into it, but have to account for extra gap #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    Good stuff to ponder and work thru for myself - I've always considered a wing a RB and needed to worry about those gaps. #swarmfbchat
  • KJMcDonough Apr 18 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A1: Depends on who the wing is and what they do with him. Goes back to what they do on tape #SWARMFBCHAT
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • coachjsam Apr 18 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A1: still say you need to be gap sound no matter what you're trying to do #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDuda Apr 18 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A1: It's important to be flexible based on his skills set. Base your defense around that! #KnowYourOpppnent #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_ZC Apr 18 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A1: Depends how hes used. Also is there a pers. change within the position. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDuda Apr 18 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A1 (continued): It's important to be flexible based on his skills set. Base your defense around that! #KnowYourOpppnent #swarmfbchat
  • Skillutt28 Apr 18 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    Jeff Lutt DC & GBLB Coach Great Bend HS, KS #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    Q2: With a good blocking TE, what do you do with your box players when faced with that? Over front? walk up LB? Other? #swarmfbchat
  • JRGrayson Apr 18 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    A1: what he said ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️ #SWARMFBCHAT
    • cahsfbchat Apr 18 @ 9:14 PM EDT
      A1 depends on the type of offense if they are Pro I and add a wing treat it like a WR, if they are wing-t double wing, add gap #swarmfbchat
  • Skillutt28 Apr 18 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A1. Usually treat it like a RB. But it just depends on how they use him & what they do. Many times take To to the palyside. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachSimard Apr 18 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A1: Ditto- scouting. A Good Blocking Wing that gets leverage on LB and DE - outside-in leverage. If he can catch - phew! Probs! #swarmfbchat
  • CoachSpegal Apr 18 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A1) Depends on what the o likes 2 do. If he is a non WR threat I treat him like another OL & will get another hat in the box #swarmfbchat
  • RogerBurtonwphs Apr 18 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A2: Don't really change what we do bc of TE as far as cheating to him.. can't open other gaps by trying to cheat to him.. #SWARMFBCHAT
  • coachdober Apr 18 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A1: will usually treat as a TE if he's a FB/H-back type. If actually a WR lining up there we will treat differently #swarmfbchat
  • cahsfbchat Apr 18 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A2 Jam him with a DE, dont let him get a clean release on anything. worse case, cut him #SWARMFBCHAT
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • brgredd Apr 18 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A2 Sam lined up over Y. Quick hands and compete to beat his block. #swarmfbchat
  • zachdavis24 Apr 18 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A2) 7 technique with a LB in a 9 technique. #SWARMFBCHAT
  • CoachKizer Apr 18 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A2: For sure play a 6 tech to force him to deal with that. Give those LBs a chance to dissect and react without him working up #swarmfbchat
  • FBCoachGerman Apr 18 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A1 treat as 4 man surface v 2 man surface. Usually see it from wing t teams. If so have to account for extra gap. X over 2+ #swarmfbchat
  • CoachWelden Apr 18 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A2, 34def, will walk olb up on him and collision, rather attack him than allow him to get to second level instantly #swarmfbchat
  • CoachRDes Apr 18 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A2- play a 34, we can walk an olb up or play 3x3 depending on what gives us advantage. Will also bang te with tackle slant #swarmfbchat
  • coachjsam Apr 18 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A2: gotta switch up looks and use his weaknesses in the run game to your advantage #swarmfbchat
  • CODY_GARDNER Apr 18 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A2)Prefer to get into a 50 under, with SAM in a 9tech, playing spill to FS. Been blessed with SAMs better than any TE we saw. #swarmfbchat
  • JRGrayson Apr 18 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A2: I think you need to walk a LB down. Trade one for one, at least neutralize him with a "fist fight" #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:18 PM EDT
      Q2: With a good blocking TE, what do you do with your box players when faced with that? Over front? walk up LB? Other? #swarmfbchat
  • RogerBurtonwphs Apr 18 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A2: I worry more about TE that an push and stretch the field vertically ..like this dude here #SWARMFBCHAT
  • CoachKizer Apr 18 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A2: have a couple of different fronts to throw at them to mess with blocking scheme too that are simple and easy to run #swarmfbchat
  • CoachSpegal Apr 18 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A1) If the wing can catch the rock it creates a whole new dimension of problems. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBullNY Apr 18 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    A1: put SLB on line over him and jam, play out/up pass coverage. If he goes vertical(up) safety covers, he goes out LB covers.#swarmfbchat
  • CoachHoneyman Apr 18 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    A2 will walk up a backer or play more 1 high safety (Cover 3) and roll a safety down into the box #swarmfbchat
  • Skillutt28 Apr 18 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    A2. Can walk up one of our OLBs. Could even slide our front to cover him up & bring up backside backer. #swarmfbchat
  • coachblawson Apr 18 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    We run the 3-3 stack. With a TE to the stack we cheat that stack backer into a 50 alignment to not give the TE a great angle #swarmfbchat
  • CoachLucch Apr 18 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    A2: couple adjustments w/ stack LB's. Can align head up on LOS, 2 yds, or base. Possibly slant to. Again, what are they doing? #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDiG Apr 18 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    A2: Make block 9 tech. Can always buy back gap with stunt. If good on first level. Inside shade if good on second. Make climb. #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:18 PM EDT
      Q2: With a good blocking TE, what do you do with your box players when faced with that? Over front? walk up LB? Other? #swarmfbchat
  • CoachCurran42 Apr 18 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    A2: Walk up OLB. Won't be afraid to gap exchange him and cross face. Easy flip. #swarmfbchat
  • coachblawson Apr 18 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    A2)We run the 3-3 stack. With a TE to the stack we cheat that stack backer into a 50 alignment to not give the TE a great angle #swarmfbchat
  • Mr_Tanner23 Apr 18 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    A2: we jam the te w our bandit lb and have a 9 tech outside, we run 46 bear, bandit takes care of C gap& creates hell for TE #swarmfbchat
  • coachdober Apr 18 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    A2: 3-4 We will walk OLB down and initiate contact at LOS. safeties know OLBs will be heavy & ball may spill quickly to them. #swarmfbchat
  • tajmarshall Apr 18 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    A2. Good blocking TE we walk down a LB. We will see how physical he is. If needed roll a safety down #swarmfbchat
  • FBCoachGerman Apr 18 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A2 make him make decisions after ball turns over with movement and players in both his gaps. Safety can win in man. #swarmfbchat
  • CODY_GARDNER Apr 18 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    Lining up in "Stone" with @StraatmannBen in a 9 over a TE, would lower my blood pressure instantly. #swarmfbchat
  • tknipp9 Apr 18 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A2: We use the Over front with DE playing a 6. We have also used the down safety to force hard and played Robber behind it. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachCurran42 Apr 18 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    A2: I have a KINGS blitz where I'll blitz the SS to the C. Time it all week in practice. BEAUTIFUL thing! #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDuda Apr 18 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A2: I would play a 6 w/my best DE. He needs to be physical & quick on his reads. He needs to physically dominate the TE @ LOS #swarmfbchat
  • CoachTew Apr 18 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A2: walk up OLB and slant d line to TE. #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:18 PM EDT
      Q2: With a good blocking TE, what do you do with your box players when faced with that? Over front? walk up LB? Other? #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    Q3: Now, how many of you will walk down a DB for a +1 situation vs that same TE (run or pass)? #swarmfbchat
  • CoachCurran42 Apr 18 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A3: See my A2 #swarmfbchat
  • tknipp9 Apr 18 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A3: We will to gain the numbers advantage. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachSpegal Apr 18 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A2) I run a over/under front, fire my DE's to B gap trying 2 spill everything outside where i let my athletes make the plays. #SWARMFBCHAT
  • CoachDiG Apr 18 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A3: vs power running team 👍 #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A3: Since we play man - I loved walking a DB up in the face of a TE - force him to block a weaker tackler. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachSimard Apr 18 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    A2: A TOUGH DE in a 7 tec keeps me up on Thur night. That's a grownman's block. If my TE can't handle-he becomes a WO that week #swarmfbchat
  • CoachWelden Apr 18 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    A3, we start two high all the time, in this set 9yards off ball, will play 2 read or roll in snap count to man free #swarmfbchat
  • CoachLucch Apr 18 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    A3: in base 3-3, may walk hybrid safety/OLB in tight align just outside shade. Prefer to stay base, read & attack FAST #swarmfbchat
  • CoachHoneyman Apr 18 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    A3 depends on the scheme #swarmfbchat
  • CoachRDes Apr 18 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    A3- always try to stop with 7 first, go to 8 if needed. You will not run on us. #swarmfbchat
  • cahsfbchat Apr 18 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    A3 we will only add a DB if they add a player. we will make a loaded call if they have 10 or more in the box #SWARMFBCHAT
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachCurran42 Apr 18 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    Playing against 21 is much "easier" when you're not afraid to play man. Just sayin'... #swarmfbchat
  • tsbulldawgs64 Apr 18 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    A2) When we have a TE we walk our OLB up on their outside edge and play physical on them. Call it a War alignment. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachTew Apr 18 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    A2: if we r in our 4 man front and the TE is to boundary we will play our OLB in 6 tech and make him c gap responsible. #swarmfbchat
  • CODY_GARDNER Apr 18 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    A3)I guess our SAM is a DB in out 4-2-5. But honestly, he is usually more of a LB so no. This year our true back 4, yes. #swarmfbchat
  • Skillutt28 Apr 18 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    A3. Haven't. Unless you count our OLB in our 3-3 a DB. #swarmfbchat
  • coachtanis Apr 18 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    A2) We have been exclusively an Over Front. We have explored using some Under fronts this off season. #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:18 PM EDT
      Q2: With a good blocking TE, what do you do with your box players when faced with that? Over front? walk up LB? Other? #swarmfbchat
  • DrIronstein Apr 18 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    A1)depends on off. scheme and personnel,generally otl TE gets a jawed up 6 tech, wing or H gets an eagled down 9 from the OLB. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • coachdober Apr 18 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    A3: have had a safety face up on the TE with OLB playing a loose 9. Either TE is "wasted" blocking S, or safety is unblocked #swarmfbchat
  • CoachSpegal Apr 18 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    A3) Since we're a press man team, I'm not afraid to walk up the DB n order to get a +1 in the box, I also like 2 mix some zone #SWARMFBCHAT
  • tsbulldawgs64 Apr 18 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    A3) When we are in our stack alignment (3-3 look) we will walk our safety down in the same War alignment #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDuda Apr 18 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    A3: We could walk down an OLB to that TE. Counter that with stunting our DL to the TE (Gap Exchange). Create chaos at the LOS! #swarmfbchat
  • tsbulldawgs64 Apr 18 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    A3) Otherwise we have not done that yet #swarmfbchat
  • coachjsam Apr 18 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    A3: if kids do it within your scheme then do it, if they don't then no #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    Lots of good follow up questions being asked - don't forget to answer those too! Good stuff being tweeted out - take it in! #swarmfbchat
  • CODY_GARDNER Apr 18 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    Box players spill, so base 4 DL and 2LB. In the 50, I think it is too stressful to force and play flat from a 9tech, spill. #SWARMFBCHAT
    In reply to @CoachTew
  • coachtanis Apr 18 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    A3) We never walk down a DB for that look. We disguise by being consistently a two high pre snap. #swarmfbchat
  • RogerBurtonwphs Apr 18 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    A3: two backs in back field aka FB and TB and a TE will walk down for box help otherwise two high .. helps to have 4 good DL #swarmfbchat
  • coachblawson Apr 18 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    A3)we will walk up our outside (bandit) LB up into a 1x1 alignment to the TE from a 3x3.To help box and force everything inside #swarmfbchat
  • Mr_Tanner23 Apr 18 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    A3: corner plays 4x5 from the TE and plays man on the first back out of the backfield and is now a 2nd level defender(run sup.)#swarmfbchat
  • DrIronstein Apr 18 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    A) Depends on D&D, run down 11/12/21 personnel gets an 8 man box. SS relates to #2 strong, alignment depends on call. #SWARMFBCHAT
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachGrayvold Apr 18 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    A3 We'll walk down and tell our secondary guys you can run step for step pass, must be physical at the point of attack on run #swarmfbchat
  • CoachTew Apr 18 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A3: only walk safety down to LB depth if it's man. OC want a DB there to run at to see if he will tackle. #swarmfbchat
  • DrIronstein Apr 18 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A2) eagle down into a 9 with OLB and under front sliding backers strong and WS down,or Jaw 6 over with SLB in 50 alignment. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • FBCoachGerman Apr 18 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A3 will have hybrid play as close as 1x1. Want to be gap sound and +1 hat. #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    Q4: From the DM; Hey guys, do you play any different when seeing split backs vs I backs? #swarmfbchat (maybe LB question???)
  • DrIronstein Apr 18 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    Hunter Adams, salty ball coach from Alabama, crashing in late......sup guys! #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachHoneyman Apr 18 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    A4) for the most part no, but if it is a H and running zone back. Will give a Plumber call to alert backside tackle. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBullNY Apr 18 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    A1:Have LBs Cross Key the RBs in Split. In I straight key the FB. #SWARMFBCHAT
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CODY_GARDNER Apr 18 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    A4)Scheme and fit, no. We may or may not change read keys, it is a scouting report thing. Cross read or weakside RB, depends #swarmfbchat
  • coachdober Apr 18 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    A4: We treat them the same scheme-wise. I just work with my LBs during Indy time on differences in timing and fit angles #swarmfbchat
  • RogerBurtonwphs Apr 18 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    A4: No..shouldn't change your reads..like to try to read OL,read and attack and make tackles and make HS teams drive the field #swarmfbchat
  • cahsfbchat Apr 18 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    A4 we havent as of yet, but we might change as we have a team running the DLS veer in our league so we might need to adapt #swarmfbchat
  • tknipp9 Apr 18 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    A4: We don't play much different. We may widen our OLB/ SS a yard or two versus split back to help defend pass. #swarmfbchat
  • tajmarshall Apr 18 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    A4. No. Split or I will not dictate our alignment. #swarmfbchat
  • Skillutt28 Apr 18 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    A4. Not normally, just depends on what they do out of the backfield looks. Can change up LB keys/reads that week. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachKizer Apr 18 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    A4: Read Guard to that near back for keys. But how we will attack blocks and play doesn't change much #swarmfbchat
  • FBCoachGerman Apr 18 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    A4 biggest thing is cross key. My LBs love split backs! #swarmfbchat
  • tsbulldawgs64 Apr 18 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    A4) We identify their "dude" and treat the other guy as the fullback. Helps when we read guard to bear back triangle. #swarmfbchat
  • coachtanis Apr 18 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    A4) Always depends on what they do 1st. Maybe move r Nose from a 1 tech to a 2i if they r attacking the weak side B Gap bubble #swarmfbchat
  • CoachLucch Apr 18 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    A4: Doesn't change the reads. Keep it simple & get kids playing fast & downhill. Off doesn't hold the marker last. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDuda Apr 18 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    A4: Adjust to Split Backs on Field vs. Boundary & Personnel. Also, how the WR's align will play a role in how the LB's line up. #swarmfbchat
  • DrIronstein Apr 18 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    A4) Don't align any different, just change LB reads. Split backs forces true read on guard, I backs read playside guard to FB. #SWARMFBCHAT
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachTew Apr 18 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    A4: cross key in split backs. Depending on film study usually FB is key on I. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDiG Apr 18 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    A4: gun or under is key. Split backs teach more fall back fits. Especially vs gun forms #SWARMFBCHAT
  • tajmarshall Apr 18 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    What is the purpose of cross reading? Giving kids to much to read I want them to play fast. Read Guards through the backfield #swarmfbchat
  • Mr_Tanner23 Apr 18 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    A4: vs 20 pers. we go 5-3 cov.0 if team is heavy run,can go 5-2 cov1 if pass threat. Vs 21 we put bandit in TE's face and cov0 #swarmfbchat
  • coachjsam Apr 18 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    A4: all depends if the schemes of the team. We have base rules and will tweak when needed #swarmfbchat
  • coachblawson Apr 18 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    A4) It doesn't change our alignment or reads. We keep it basic so our players don't think week to week and play downhill fast! #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    Q5: I thought this was an interesting Q; Does facing a QB in gun with 21 personnel present any extra issues on D? #swarmfbchat
  • DrIronstein Apr 18 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    Agree, only time it's necessary is vs true wishbone, bc it can be blocked like split zone with both guards blocking away. #SWARMFBCHAT
    In reply to @tajmarshall
  • CoachBullNY Apr 18 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    A4: Also in Split backs big on not letting RBs out-flank LBs. Widen the LBs so RB is on inside shoulder. Reduces pass threat. #SWARMFBCHAT
  • CoachCurran42 Apr 18 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A5: Personally, I'd rather see Gun. Under center give them waggle/boot option. Gun is easier read IMO. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachKizer Apr 18 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A5: Can toy a little more with misdirection, things like that but alignment, eyes, keys wont change #swarmfbchat
  • zachdavis24 Apr 18 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A5) QB run game forces you to load the box IMO. #SWARMFBCHAT
  • tsbulldawgs64 Apr 18 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A5) Not extra but need to make sure QB/Dive/Pitch guys know their job. #SWARMFBCHAT
  • cahsfbchat Apr 18 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A5 No, just treat it like regular 21, with the higher possibility of rollouts #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    A5: My initial thought was that run plays would be more East/West then downhill if in a pistol...not sure if pistol was in mind #swarmfbchat
  • RogerBurtonwphs Apr 18 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    Quick shameless plug here.. I need one more follower for 300.. let's make this happen please #swarmfbchat
  • tknipp9 Apr 18 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    A5: It would depend on the offense used the QB in the gun. Is he a passer, a legitimate run threat? These are questions we ask #swarmfbchat
  • DrIronstein Apr 18 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    A5) Potentially allows RPO scheme,I like man under or split field cvgs vs 21 gun, usually jam TE and bring weak pressure. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CODY_GARDNER Apr 18 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    A5) More like to RPO, but not really. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachSpegal Apr 18 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    A5) 21 Per out of gun I will generally run a 5-2 look w/ two stand up LB's & play press man on the outside It's tough 2 defend #swarmfbchat
  • tsbulldawgs64 Apr 18 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    A5) Also don't get why some teams don't run more pistol I formations. You can make every run an RPO or Read option #swarmfbchat
  • RogerBurtonwphs Apr 18 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    A5: If that Qb can run u have to treat him like a TB from the old I offenses .#swarmfbchat
  • CoachHoneyman Apr 18 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    A5) if the qb is runner that always presents some extra attention #swarmfbchat
  • coachdober Apr 18 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    A5: need to stay alert for QB option run game & quick game RPO stuff. Gotta be sound on option responsibilities in your base D! #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDiG Apr 18 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    A5: not that much because leverage not as good. Pistol offset a little worse. Better angles and tougher on pressure #SWARMFBCHAT
  • Mr_Tanner23 Apr 18 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    A5: as long as everyone maintains gap integrity and plays their tech. Good it doesn't matter.. not many places to run vs. bear #swarmfbchat
  • Skillutt28 Apr 18 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    A5. Not As long as you stay gap sound & account for all possible. Just know what they are running & what they want to do most. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachLucch Apr 18 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    A5: I.D. what they are doing & take it away. Force the Off to play "left handed." I.D. backs when bringing man pressures. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBullNY Apr 18 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    A5: In my opinion Gun means more threat of QB run. Which makes it like 31 pers. Want to now have a QB run defender in box. #SWARMFBCHAT
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • DrIronstein Apr 18 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    Agree, once a back aligns inside foot of OT or wider we treat it like a wing. If not Lb can get pinned on OZ. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @CoachBullNY, @rmacblue
  • tajmarshall Apr 18 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    A5. None at all. We treat him the same #swarmfbchat
  • RogerBurtonwphs Apr 18 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    Went over the 300 mark .. thanks 🙏 #swarmfbchat
  • CoachWelden Apr 18 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    A5, like always film will tell, but I would much rather face an under center 21 than gun #swarmfbchat
  • Mr_Tanner23 Apr 18 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    A5: cont. we will have 8 in the box and FS will be running the alley on outside runs #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDuda Apr 18 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    A5: Depends on the type of Offense. Are either TE a receiving threat? Dual-Threat QB? RPO game could be a problem w/2 stud TE's #swarmfbchat
  • FBCoachGerman Apr 18 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    A5 will be able to keep 9 in box based on If 2 is Y. Have to be sound in option read rule. Will exchange for pull to blitz #swarmfbchat
  • DrIronstein Apr 18 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    Agree! Probably most versatile set in FB, potential RPO, and all four variations of option, and power/counter game. #SWARMFBCHAT
    In reply to @tsbulldawgs64, @rmacblue
  • CODY_GARDNER Apr 18 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    Am I the only one more bothered by 12 than 21? #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    Q6: What coverage do you think is most effective vs TE with good feet/hands? #swarmfbchat
  • CoachLucch Apr 18 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    A5: If QB is a run threat, must prep kids & train their eyes. Goal is to beat him up if they want to run him early & often. #swarmfbchat
  • tajmarshall Apr 18 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    I prefer pistol because the mesh is deeper in the backfield. Gives us more time to get home with a blitz.#swarmfbchat
  • tknipp9 Apr 18 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    A6: Man #swarmfbchat
  • coachdober Apr 18 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    No! Definitely not! 12 is harder to defend in my opinion #SWARMFBCHAT
    In reply to @CODY_GARDNER
  • CoachKizer Apr 18 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    A6: some type of coverage were you can play an underneath and over the top player. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachCurran42 Apr 18 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    A6: Beat him up at the line. Man coverage all day! Vs. Strong waggle/boot team, easy pickup by Safety too... #swarmfbchat
  • DrIronstein Apr 18 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    A6) 3 robber so FS and LB are over and under TE, or press 1free manned up with safety help over too. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • RogerBurtonwphs Apr 18 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    I got to go early it's been 🌮 's tonight.. ( that means good, I'm fat and really like tacos) till next time..#swarmfbchat
  • CoachBLedesma Apr 18 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    As an Oc I love 12 more than 21. 12 makes the def declare. To me just a more versatile personnel! #SWARMFBCHAT
    In reply to @CODY_GARDNER
  • CoachKizer Apr 18 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    A6: if we have a good cover guy, play straight up man #swarmfbchat
  • CoachSpegal Apr 18 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    A6) When in doubt run press man. If the TE is good then bracket him with the $ #swarmfbchat
  • CoachLucch Apr 18 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    A6: either or. Be really physical in matchup or man. Knock him around. #swarmfbchat
  • coachtanis Apr 18 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    A5) It changes how we will play r DEs. Either way we ❤️ 21 personnel. We will have 9 in the box w/ safeties aligning by ability #swarmfbchat
  • CoachGrayvold Apr 18 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    A6 Man. He may have good hands and feet, but we have to be better than a TE if you want to play in the secondary #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBullNY Apr 18 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    A6:Put SLB online over him jam to not allow free release. Have SLB cover TE to Flats and have Safety cover TE vertical. #SWARMFBCHAT
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachWelden Apr 18 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    A6, 2 read or man free, always collision at los and have someone over top, Ilb knock off path, just keep hitting him #swarmfbchat
  • tsbulldawgs64 Apr 18 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    A6) Well run either Cover 4 so we don't get beat in the seam, or we line our scf player over him and jam him in Cov 3 #swarmfbchat
  • tajmarshall Apr 18 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    A6. Cover 2. Beat his Butt. No free releases #swarmfbchat
  • coachdober Apr 18 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    A6: Quarters with OLB physical with TE at LOS and on short routes with a safety over top #swarmfbchat
  • coachjsam Apr 18 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    A5: none except QB run game #swarmfbchat
  • DrIronstein Apr 18 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    Under center only bothers me when they run veer with a quick twitch FB, otherwise I feel it condenses space and gaps. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @DBsCoachWhit, @rmacblue
  • CoachHoneyman Apr 18 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    A6) man, strike him at the line play under and over with safety help. #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    Gotta say thanks to all you guys who participated in tonight's #swarmfbchat Always a joy to bring it to you!
  • Skillutt28 Apr 18 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    A6. Get hands on him. No free release. Then have LB over top to take away pop. #swarmfbchat
  • CODY_GARDNER Apr 18 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    A6)Bracket, disrupt the release let S play after that. So 1 high, split field, however we can get there. #swarmfbchat
  • FBCoachGerman Apr 18 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    A6 match, bracket, cover 6. We should have +1. If he is on the ground he can't runt a route! #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDiG Apr 18 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    A6: quarters supports. Safety has him past lb depth #SWARMFBCHAT
  • Mr_Tanner23 Apr 18 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    A6: man.. we have a "cloud" tag vs anyone who is very good- press w help over top #swarmfbchat
  • coachjsam Apr 18 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    A6: all depends on what they like to do with him in the pass game #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDuda Apr 18 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    Great #swarmfbchat tonight put on by @rmacblue -- but I missed @Coach_JRogers not being involved!
  • FBCoachGerman Apr 18 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    A6 match, bracket, cover 6. We should have +1. If he is on the ground he can't run a route! #swarmfbchat #swarmfbchat
  • CODY_GARDNER Apr 18 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    No, way man, too many OC lurkers. #SWARMFBCHAT
    In reply to @CoachWelden