#ALedchat Archive

#ALedchat is a weekly chat on Twitter about education topics. It is held each Monday from 9-10pmCST. While the discussion on #ALedchat continues on Twitter well beyond our weekly one-hour chat session, this platform affords us the opportunity to extend, expand and share the conversation with an even greater audience. Educators from across the state of Alabama, and the world, can come here to find encouragement, support, resources, professional growth opportunities and advice, while providing the same to their colleagues.

Monday October 16, 2017
10:00 PM EDT

  • MEMSPAchat Oct 16 @ 10:00 PM EDT
    Come join #MEMSPAchat - a leading ed chat on Thursday at 8pm EST @Jennifer_Hogan #ALedchat Join the leading, learning & collaboration!
  • MEMSPAchat Oct 16 @ 10:00 PM EDT
    Come join #MEMSPAchat - a leading ed chat on Thursday at 8pm EST @mkiser2 #ALedchat Join the leading, learning & collaboration!
  • participatechat Oct 16 @ 10:00 PM EDT
    Participate in the upcoming #ALedchat by sharing resources and collaborating at https://t.co/D9qyWopDBX
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to ALedchat! Topic tonight is Purifying Grading with guest moderator @ezigbo_. Who is joining and where are you tonight? #aledchat
  • effortfuleduktr Oct 16 @ 10:00 PM EDT
    Blake Harvard, AP Psych teacher and blogger, James Clemens HS, Madison, AL https://t.co/EJp11sZu1q #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    Good evening everyone. Andrew Maxey, Director of Special Program for #TCSLearns and full-time thinker about grading practices #aledchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    We will follow the Q1..A1..Q2...A2.. format tonight. Andrew will tweet questions and we will all respond! #aledchat
  • GraysonLawrence Oct 16 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    Grayson Lawrence, Assistant Principal @Winterboro_High #exceptional @TCBOE #LeadingTheWay #ALedchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    Welcome Blake! Glad you are here! #aledchat
    In reply to @effortfuleduktr
  • eileen_depka Oct 16 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    Eileen fron AZ. Looking forward to the conversation. #aledchat
    In reply to @DrHSutherland, @ezigbo_
  • DrJimmyShaw - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    You know you're a beast when another state is endorsing your chat #ALedchat @Jennifer_Hogan
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    Welcome Grayson! Glad you are here! #aledchat
    In reply to @GraysonLawrence, @Winterboro_High, @TCBOE
  • emilybharris Oct 16 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    Emily Harris, Principal @Winterboro_High #aledchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    Glad you are here! #aledchat
    In reply to @eileen_depka, @ezigbo_
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    Welcome Emily! #aledchat
    In reply to @emilybharris, @Winterboro_High
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    Dr. Matt Kiser, Principal, Professor, Co-moderator of the fastest chat on @twitter #ALedchat . Looking forward to learning from y'all.
  • CESYoda Oct 16 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    I’m ready will be multitasking with this chat #ALedchat
  • DegaSuper Oct 16 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    #aledchat Terry from Dega- whohoooo
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    Christy Bice, principal at Haleyville Elementary and a co-moderator for #ALedchat. Looking forward to learning with you tonight!
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    Always great to have you with us! #aledchat
    In reply to @DegaSuper
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    One of the BEST in the biz..... @ezigbo_ #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:01 PM EDT
      Good evening everyone. Andrew Maxey, Director of Special Program for #TCSLearns and full-time thinker about grading practices #aledchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    It's just the fastest chat because you love it so much. Same for me! #aledchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    Glad you are here Kat! #aledchat
    In reply to @CESYoda
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    Woot! We welcome learners & leaders from all over! #ALedchat
    In reply to @DrJimmyShaw
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    Glad you are here! You can do it! #aledchat
    In reply to @CESYoda
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    Glad you are here friend! #aledchat
    In reply to @Cbice_1
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    Hey, Emily! Glad you could join us tonight! #ALedchat
  • ashk4ua Oct 16 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    Ashli Polizos, middle school history teacher from Shelby County Schools #aledchat
  • SchooLeader Oct 16 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    Principal of @DMS_Tigers here. Heard @ezigbo_ was moderating tonight and had to check it out. #aledchat
  • DrJimmyShaw - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    https://t.co/9r7l0KmPHK Servantintendent of @FlorenceK12 #FCSLearn Greatest community ever. #aledchat
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    Looking forward to seeing you tomorrow, Grayson! #ALedchat
    In reply to @GraysonLawrence, @Winterboro_High, @TCBOE
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    Watch for the first question coming up directly. #aledchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    Glad you are here Matt! #aledchat
    In reply to @mkiser2, @Twitter
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    Glad you are with us! #aledchat
    In reply to @SchooLeader, @DMS_Tigers, @ezigbo_
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:04 PM EDT
    glad you are here Brandon. Let's talk about grading! #ALedchat
    In reply to @SchooLeader, @DMS_Tigers
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:04 PM EDT
    Come on Eileen! We are so glad you are here with us tonight on #aledchat It is gonna be awesome!
    • eileen_depka Oct 16 @ 10:01 PM EDT
      Eileen fron AZ. Looking forward to the conversation. #aledchat
      In reply to @DrHSutherland, @ezigbo_
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:04 PM EDT
    Excited about you leading us tonight! #aledchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • coachaldridge Oct 16 @ 10:04 PM EDT
    Elyse Aldridge 9th World History Teacher Haleyville HS #aledchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:04 PM EDT
    Holly Sutherland, Superintendent of Haleyville City, AL. Co-founder of this chat & #USedchat. Welcome all! #aledchat
  • CCHS_Principal Oct 16 @ 10:04 PM EDT
    Michael, HS Principal #aledchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:04 PM EDT
    Glad you are here Coach! #aledchat
    In reply to @coachaldridge
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:04 PM EDT
    Always great to have you, Elyse! #aledchat
    In reply to @coachaldridge
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:04 PM EDT
    Q1: What is a grade? Point out the difference (if any) between what it should be and what it usually is. #ALedchat
  • tlmc8 Oct 16 @ 10:04 PM EDT
    Tamra Counts Muscle Shoals #onthemove #MsFaMily #aledchat
  • emilybharris Oct 16 @ 10:04 PM EDT
    @branowar and @Paulateachingis - yall hop on if you have a free moment! It's about grading! #aledchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:04 PM EDT
    The GURU is here, y'all! @GraysonLawrence Get the broom ready, there are going to be many mics dropped tonight; I can feel it! #Aledchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:04 PM EDT
    Glad you are here Ashli! #aledchat
    In reply to @ashk4ua
  • emilysljohnson Oct 16 @ 10:05 PM EDT
    Hello! Emily Johnson, AP Haleyville Elementary #aledchat
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:05 PM EDT
    It's going to be a great night of learning together! Glad you are here! #aledchat
    In reply to @CCHS_Principal
  • KimberBlodgett Oct 16 @ 10:05 PM EDT
    Kim from Oklahoma. Teach 4th grade. #aledchat happy to join my friends. :)
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:05 PM EDT
    Glad you are here! #aledchat
    In reply to @DrJimmyShaw, @FlorenceK12
  • Vjack524 Oct 16 @ 10:05 PM EDT
    Hi everyone! Vicki here. Middle school math teacher in Shelby County Schools. #ALedchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:05 PM EDT
    Super-Sutherland as she is known in many circles.... #ALedchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:05 PM EDT
    Glad you are here Vicki! #aledchat
    In reply to @Vjack524
  • DrJimmyShaw - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:05 PM EDT
    Welcome Ashli #ALedchat
    • ashk4ua Oct 16 @ 10:03 PM EDT
      Ashli Polizos, middle school history teacher from Shelby County Schools #aledchat
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:05 PM EDT
    I'm Jennifer, Hoover HS AP; co-founder of this chat & the quarterly #USedchat; rising tide for women in leadership; encourager. #ALedchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:05 PM EDT
    That is kind! Only by title :) #aledchat
    In reply to @mkiser2
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:05 PM EDT
    Welcome, Coach! We are so glad you are here with us tonight on #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:05 PM EDT
    Thanks Christy. Not half as excited as I am for the opportunity to talk about this topic, I'm sure! #aledchat
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:05 PM EDT
    Happy to have my awesome sidekick here! #aledchat
    In reply to @emilysljohnson
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:05 PM EDT
    Glad you are here Kim! #aledchat
    In reply to @KimberBlodgett
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:05 PM EDT
    Glad to be here! #Aledchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    Glad you are here Kaitlin! #aledchat
    In reply to @MrsKBowman6
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    Welcome Emily! #aledchat
    In reply to @emilysljohnson
  • effortfuleduktr Oct 16 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    A1 - A grade tells us how much a student knows. Should be an indicator in the process of learning, but is often an end. #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:04 PM EDT
      Q1: What is a grade? Point out the difference (if any) between what it should be and what it usually is. #ALedchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    Super-Shaw; the Man, the Myth, the LEGEND #ALedchat
  • cfluker6 Oct 16 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    Cherith Fluker, AP at Oxford Elementary School. #aledchat
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    Great to have you with us, Vicki! #aledchat
    In reply to @Vjack524
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    Glad you are here! You are awesome! #aledchat
    In reply to @Jennifer_Hogan
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    Welcome, Cherith! #aledchat
    In reply to @cfluker6
  • ashk4ua Oct 16 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    A1: Grades should reflect learning, or progress toward a standard. #aledchat
  • emilybharris Oct 16 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    A1: A grade SHOULD be an indicator mastery but often times is an indicator of compliance. #aledchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    Welcome Brandon! We are stoked you could make it. @ezigbo_ is one awesome dude! Can't wait to hear what he has for us on #ALedchat
  • eileen_depka Oct 16 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    A grade is something that goes on a report card. It is an endpoint, a moment in time, a judgement.#aledchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • GraysonLawrence Oct 16 @ 10:07 PM EDT
    A1: Grade should be a measure of student mastery, not points of compliance. #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:04 PM EDT
      Q1: What is a grade? Point out the difference (if any) between what it should be and what it usually is. #ALedchat
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:07 PM EDT
    So pumped to learn from @ezigbo_ tonight as he moderates #ALedchat!! "Purifying Grading." #takingustochurch
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:07 PM EDT
    A1: Grades should be a means of describing the relationship between the learning and the target. Too often they do anything but. #aledchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:07 PM EDT
    Nah.... #aledchat
  • DegaSuper Oct 16 @ 10:07 PM EDT
    #aledchat a:1 numerical reflect of mastery of standards
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:04 PM EDT
      Q1: What is a grade? Point out the difference (if any) between what it should be and what it usually is. #ALedchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:07 PM EDT
    A1: A grade is evidence of mastery of the standard being assessed, not an assessment of behavior or compliance. #aledchat
  • mjshields Oct 16 @ 10:07 PM EDT
    Melissa Shields - Hi everyone! #ALedchat
  • emilybharris Oct 16 @ 10:07 PM EDT
    Go @Paulateachingis!!! Welcome to #ALedchat
    In reply to @Paulateachingis, @Winterboro_High, @Paulateachingis
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:07 PM EDT
    Love being with my #ALedchat PLN! Starts the week off RIGHT! :-)
    In reply to @DrHSutherland
  • CESYoda Oct 16 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    Kat Baxter Champion Educator at Central Elem in Tuscaloosa City schools #aledchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    Welcome Melissa! #aledchat
    In reply to @mjshields
  • DrJimmyShaw - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    Yep! #ALedchat
    • emilybharris Oct 16 @ 10:06 PM EDT
      A1: A grade SHOULD be an indicator mastery but often times is an indicator of compliance. #aledchat
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    Very true. Even when we don't want it to be, we fall into the trap of doing it how it's always been done. #ALedchat
    • emilybharris Oct 16 @ 10:06 PM EDT
      A1: A grade SHOULD be an indicator mastery but often times is an indicator of compliance. #aledchat
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    A1: A grade should be a communication tool of content mastered. Unfortunately, it is sometimes used to define rank and order. #aledchat
  • GraysonLawrence Oct 16 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    YES and YES! #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    Let's have "teacher church" this evening as @AliciaJenne would say. #aledchat
  • SchooLeader Oct 16 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    A1: Grades communicate progress to Ss, Ps, inform instruction for T #aledchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:09 PM EDT
    Glad you are here Kat! #aledchat
    In reply to @CESYoda
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:09 PM EDT
    A1: It's a numeric qualification of a Ss ability 2 demonstrate understanding of a topic/item based on a finite set of criteria #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:04 PM EDT
      Q1: What is a grade? Point out the difference (if any) between what it should be and what it usually is. #ALedchat
  • DrJimmyShaw - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:09 PM EDT
    Love how @emilybharris and @GraysonLawrence are in lock step 🔥🔥🔥 #ALedchat
    • GraysonLawrence Oct 16 @ 10:07 PM EDT
      A1: Grade should be a measure of student mastery, not points of compliance. #ALedchat
      • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:04 PM EDT
        Q1: What is a grade? Point out the difference (if any) between what it should be and what it usually is. #ALedchat
  • CCHS_Principal Oct 16 @ 10:09 PM EDT
    A1- A grade is a number. It should be for Mastery. It is, in most cases, a reflection of many things other than Mastery. #ALedchat
  • cfluker6 Oct 16 @ 10:09 PM EDT
    A1: A grade reflects how a student performs on specific assignments or assessments, not an overall snapshot of the S's capability. #aledchat
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:09 PM EDT
    Great to have you with us! Jump right in! #aledchat
    In reply to @CESYoda
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    Hey friend! Glad you are here! #aledchat
    In reply to @CCHS_Principal
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    It SHOULD be..... #ALedchat
  • massignmenthelp Oct 16 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    The Complete Guide to UK Car Driving Theory Test https://t.co/skWVo4OBdl #Aledchat #ILEdchat #mbedchat
  • AssignmentHelpN Oct 16 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    The SAMR Model: Effective Technology Integration in Classrooms https://t.co/N8NF3byMeG #Aledchat #ILEdchat #mbedchat
  • myassignment Oct 16 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    The Complete Guide to UK Car Driving Theory Test https://t.co/Z8TN4t4GK0 #Aledchat #ILEdchat #mbedchat
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    A1: A grade should reflect was has been learned, not whether or not a student followed rules or completed work. #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    Question 2 in one minute! #aledchat
  • coachaldridge Oct 16 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    A grade is a level of achievement that has evidence to support the number/letter. #aledchat
  • MrsKBowman6 Oct 16 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    A1: a grade should show a student's mastery of standards and understanding of content that is standards based. #aledchat
  • eileen_depka Oct 16 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    Could be feedback.Letting Ss know where they are compared to the target and pointing them in the right direction. Gets results.#aledchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • emilysljohnson Oct 16 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    A1: a grade is a reflection of a student’s mastery of standards. It does not always communicate the full story. #aledchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    Q2: What factors, other than evidence of learning, have you seen incorporated into grades? #ALedchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    Welcome, Terry! We are so glad you are with us tonight on #ALedchat!
    • DegaSuper Oct 16 @ 10:07 PM EDT
      #aledchat a:1 numerical reflect of mastery of standards
      • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:04 PM EDT
        Q1: What is a grade? Point out the difference (if any) between what it should be and what it usually is. #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    Nice. What about when Ss do the communicating? #aledchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:12 PM EDT
    YES! Responsibility is important but not a content area standard. #aledchat
  • JWOKMATH Oct 16 @ 10:12 PM EDT
    Late to the party! Sorry!! John Walker, PhD Student in Instructional Technology at UA. Classroom Teacher (math) for the previous 14 years! #ALEdChat #edtech #educoach
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:12 PM EDT
    Fair enough! #aledchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:03 PM EDT
      It's just the fastest chat because you love it so much. Same for me! #aledchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:12 PM EDT
    A2: Behavior, compliance, if they bring paper towels, if they attend a ballgame, if they are nice in class, homework, etc... #aledchat
  • tlmc8 Oct 16 @ 10:12 PM EDT
    A grade should show mastery #onthemove #msfamily #aledchat #aledchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:12 PM EDT
    jump on in John. The discussion's fine! #ALedchat
    In reply to @JWOKMATH
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:12 PM EDT
    A2: Participation, compliance, behavior, completion, extras, attendance...are often factored into grades. #aledchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:12 PM EDT
    Glad you are here John! Jump right in! #aledchat
    In reply to @JWOKMATH
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:12 PM EDT
    Responsiblity/conduct/behavior should have a separate "grading system" on a report card. #ALedchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • CCHS_Principal Oct 16 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    A2- COMPLIANCE #aledchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:11 PM EDT
      Q2: What factors, other than evidence of learning, have you seen incorporated into grades? #ALedchat
  • GraysonLawrence Oct 16 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    A2: LOTS, participation, creativity, behavior, attendance, did they get a parent signature. #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:11 PM EDT
      Q2: What factors, other than evidence of learning, have you seen incorporated into grades? #ALedchat
  • eileen_depka Oct 16 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    I wonder, is the grade evidence of mastery, or is it multiple performances by Ss. #aledchat
    In reply to @GraysonLawrence
  • MrsKBowman6 Oct 16 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    Participating in twitter professional development with some gifted teachers with #edchatTCS #ALedchat #learnsomethingnew
  • DegaSuper Oct 16 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    A:2 #Aledchat effort, focus, discipline- you name it. I was lost and uninitiated.
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:11 PM EDT
      Q2: What factors, other than evidence of learning, have you seen incorporated into grades? #ALedchat
  • emilysljohnson Oct 16 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    A2: participation, behavior, homework, etc #aledchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    a2: Compliance; ritualistic and otherwise. timeliness, willingness, effort; just to name a few #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:11 PM EDT
      Q2: What factors, other than evidence of learning, have you seen incorporated into grades? #ALedchat
  • Vjack524 Oct 16 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    A2: Points deducted for 1. turning in late (or not at all), 2. no name on paper 3. Work done in pen rather than pencil (in math). #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    A2: Time is often a big factor in grades. Muddiest the water when we are trying to understand what students have learned though #aledchat
  • dalehancock Oct 16 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    Grades are feedback on what’s been taught. #ALedchat
  • CoreyAppelbaum Oct 16 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    Corey here coming to you from St Petersburg #Florida, AE with @SAFARIMontage in #Alabama #ALedchat
  • emilybharris Oct 16 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    A2: Whether an assignment was turned in timely. I get timeliness BUT I turned my LP in late before &have lived to survive #aledchat
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    Sometimes we have to read between the lines when we see grades from different teachers. Don't always mean the same thing. #ALedchat
    In reply to @SchooLeader
  • ashk4ua Oct 16 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    A2: Participation, effort & the word that is already tending tonight: compliance #aledchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    Glad you are here Corey! #aledchat
    In reply to @CoreyAppelbaum, @SAFARIMontage
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    Did they bring those baby wipes or Expo markers in????? #ALedchat
    • GraysonLawrence Oct 16 @ 10:13 PM EDT
      A2: LOTS, participation, creativity, behavior, attendance, did they get a parent signature. #ALedchat
      • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:11 PM EDT
        Q2: What factors, other than evidence of learning, have you seen incorporated into grades? #ALedchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    So glad to see you on here tonight @CCHS_Principal ! #ALedchat
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    Don't forget the Kleenex! #ALedchat
    In reply to @mkiser2
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    I've even heard of grade reductions for poor handwriting of a task. #aledchat
    In reply to @Vjack524
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    We used to do that, others do that (ie Baltimore Pubic Schools), why can't we do that? #aledchat
  • cfluker6 Oct 16 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    A2: Punctuality, participation, returning homework, returning report cards or other signed documents, extra credit #aledchat
  • MrsKBowman6 Oct 16 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    #aledchat a2: ability to turn in work, behavior, participation all seem to push their way into many grade books. 🙁 #behaviorisnotastandard
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:11 PM EDT
      Q2: What factors, other than evidence of learning, have you seen incorporated into grades? #ALedchat
  • JWOKMATH Oct 16 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    A2: Unfortunately, behavior. However, with some #digitalcitizenship built in this could be something good to measure! Must be planned, announced, and observable! #ALEdChat #edtech #DigCitWeek
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:11 PM EDT
      Q2: What factors, other than evidence of learning, have you seen incorporated into grades? #ALedchat
  • KimberBlodgett Oct 16 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    A2: participation, effort, compliance. #Aledchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    So true; gotta find that balance between offering a consistent/uniform experience and providing autonomy for Ts in this regard. #ALedchat
    • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:14 PM EDT
      Sometimes we have to read between the lines when we see grades from different teachers. Don't always mean the same thing. #ALedchat
      In reply to @SchooLeader
  • dalehancock Oct 16 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    Grades also reflect how many can goods a student brought for the food drive. #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:16 PM EDT
    let me clarify. I don't like when that happens. I like the fact that you pointed that out. Twitter doesn't have a "BOO!" button #ALedchat
    In reply to @Cbice_1, @Vjack524
  • emilybharris Oct 16 @ 10:16 PM EDT
    Me too! My signature changes by the hour. I would fail that assignment - @graysonlawrence can attest to my penmanship #aledchat
    In reply to @Cbice_1, @Vjack524, @GraysonLawrence
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:16 PM EDT
    Glad you're here, Corey! Welcome! #ALedchat
    In reply to @CoreyAppelbaum, @SAFARIMontage
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:16 PM EDT
    :) #Aledchat
  • eileen_depka Oct 16 @ 10:16 PM EDT
    A2 If a grade is pure, it indicates academic performance, so it would include only demonstrations of S understanding.#aledchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • coachaldridge Oct 16 @ 10:16 PM EDT
    A2: Participation, signed papers, coloring/labeling items, #ALedchat
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:16 PM EDT
    Not feedback on what's been learned? #ALedchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:16 PM EDT
    and don't even think about using a RED pen; those are only for the Ts :) #ALedchat
    • Vjack524 Oct 16 @ 10:13 PM EDT
      A2: Points deducted for 1. turning in late (or not at all), 2. no name on paper 3. Work done in pen rather than pencil (in math). #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:17 PM EDT
    My first mic-drop nominee. Yes, a grade should be about student learning ONLY #aledchat
    • eileen_depka Oct 16 @ 10:16 PM EDT
      A2 If a grade is pure, it indicates academic performance, so it would include only demonstrations of S understanding.#aledchat
      In reply to @ezigbo_
  • Paulateachingis Oct 16 @ 10:17 PM EDT
    A2 attempting the assignment #ALedchat
  • coachaldridge Oct 16 @ 10:17 PM EDT
    #aledchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:17 PM EDT
    Hey @KimberBlodgett How are the sweet kiddos!?! #aledchat
  • CCHS_Principal Oct 16 @ 10:18 PM EDT
    A2- Did you bring back “the form” signed by a parent. #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:18 PM EDT
    Unfortunately, yes. And it's amazing how we will stand on our pedagogical head to try to justify practices like this. #aledchat
    • dalehancock Oct 16 @ 10:15 PM EDT
      Grades also reflect how many can goods a student brought for the food drive. #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:18 PM EDT
    Question 3, dead ahead. #aledchat
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:18 PM EDT
    A3: "Effort." So silly and frustrating. How do we know how much "effort" a student put into an assignment?? #ALedchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • SchooLeader Oct 16 @ 10:18 PM EDT
    A2: Unfortunately, sometimes grades reflect if a P is able to be in the home to help with HW or not. A lot of working single Ps #aledchat
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:18 PM EDT
    Oops! This should be A2. #ALedchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:18 PM EDT
    We can; just gotta figure out a way to bring the public, Ts, and others on board.... #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:15 PM EDT
      We used to do that, others do that (ie Baltimore Pubic Schools), why can't we do that? #aledchat
  • cvarsalona Oct 16 @ 10:18 PM EDT
    Hi #ALedchat friends. I'll listen tonight as I wind down from moderating #NYEDChat. Invite to my #fall gallery: https://t.co/bt8YD8dvTc
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:19 PM EDT
    Q3: Understanding is important when we seek to grow. WHY do multiple factors get included in grades? #ALedchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:19 PM EDT
    I forgot to get my mom to sign the paper bc she was out getting the kleenex for my other class; it will help my grade you know! #Aledchat
  • cvarsalona Oct 16 @ 10:20 PM EDT
    A2 Willingness is an interesting component Matt. #Aledchat
    In reply to @mkiser2
  • eileen_depka Oct 16 @ 10:20 PM EDT
    Behaviors impact learning but seems as though they should have behavioral consequences. Grade=Academic performance only.#aledchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • bama_sims Oct 16 @ 10:20 PM EDT
    How can mastery be demonstrated without some amount of compliance? #aledchat
    In reply to @emilybharris
  • sanchelli10 Oct 16 @ 10:20 PM EDT
    Especially in the lower levels. Critical in developing the grit & character to persevere & master the skills and content. #GRIT #Aledchat
  • ElginElgin3 Oct 16 @ 10:20 PM EDT
    A2: SPED: participation, communication, gestures, vocal approx., effort, IEP goals #aledchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:11 PM EDT
      Q2: What factors, other than evidence of learning, have you seen incorporated into grades? #ALedchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:20 PM EDT
    A3: Control and Power unfortunately are two factors; perhaps getting a full-circle view of the Ss and what they know and can do #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:19 PM EDT
      Q3: Understanding is important when we seek to grow. WHY do multiple factors get included in grades? #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:20 PM EDT
    A3: We allow other factors into grades because "we're teaching them that stuff too". #aledchat
  • AutummJ Oct 16 @ 10:20 PM EDT
    A1: Record of progress based on "traditional" reporting and scoring. #ALedchat
  • Paulateachingis Oct 16 @ 10:20 PM EDT
    A2 perhaps there is a fear of the true reflection on teaching if we only measured mastery. Maybe not a bad idea after all #ALedchat
  • coachaldridge Oct 16 @ 10:21 PM EDT
    A3: To “play” school, make ourselves feel better, to make the Ss “feel” accomplished?!? #ALedchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • cfluker6 Oct 16 @ 10:21 PM EDT
    A3: Ts feel pressure to give Ss every opportunity to be successful, in other words, achieve a passing grade. #aledchat
  • emilybharris Oct 16 @ 10:21 PM EDT
    A3: Grading can be used as part of a "discipline policy"- rather than promoting rigor and relevance, compliance takes center state #aledchat
  • educatormann Oct 16 @ 10:21 PM EDT
    Sometimes we confuse grades for accountability. Both are important but we must reflect them separately. #aledchat
    In reply to @CCHS_Principal
  • ashk4ua Oct 16 @ 10:21 PM EDT
    A3: Grade culture, what grades are, has been long-established & requires a paradigm shift. #aledchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:21 PM EDT
    Emphasis on traditional; great point @AutummJ #ALedchat
    • AutummJ Oct 16 @ 10:20 PM EDT
      A1: Record of progress based on "traditional" reporting and scoring. #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:21 PM EDT
    We DO need to expect students to do what is expected. However, we can hold Ss accountable outside the context of an academic grade #aledchat
    • bama_sims Oct 16 @ 10:20 PM EDT
      How can mastery be demonstrated without some amount of compliance? #aledchat
      In reply to @emilybharris
  • JWOKMATH Oct 16 @ 10:21 PM EDT
    #behaviorism at its finest! #ALEdChat
    In reply to @bama_sims, @emilybharris
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:21 PM EDT
    A3: They are included because traditional report cards are limited. How do we show that some factors could impact future success? #aledchat
  • DegaSuper Oct 16 @ 10:21 PM EDT
    #aledchat a:3 people do what was done to them. They just don't know.
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:19 PM EDT
      Q3: Understanding is important when we seek to grow. WHY do multiple factors get included in grades? #ALedchat
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:22 PM EDT
    A4: Those are included in grades bc that's been the norm. Everyone is so focused on the A. #helpthemout #theyaregoodkids #aledchat
  • AutummJ Oct 16 @ 10:22 PM EDT
    Q3: Multiple factors are included to get a true picture of the learners learning. #ALedchat
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:22 PM EDT
    A3: Tradition. Early schools needed compliant workers who did things a certain way (including legible handwriting). #ALedchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • CCHS_Principal Oct 16 @ 10:22 PM EDT
    A3- I think a lot of teachers are afraid to give the grades that many students might earn without outside factors. #aledchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:19 PM EDT
      Q3: Understanding is important when we seek to grow. WHY do multiple factors get included in grades? #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:22 PM EDT
    You are right. Unfortunately, we seem not to stop to ask what good a false report is. How does an inflated grade advance learning? #aledchat
    • cfluker6 Oct 16 @ 10:21 PM EDT
      A3: Ts feel pressure to give Ss every opportunity to be successful, in other words, achieve a passing grade. #aledchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:22 PM EDT
    Teaching and exposure are two different things....#ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:20 PM EDT
      A3: We allow other factors into grades because "we're teaching them that stuff too". #aledchat
  • ElginElgin3 Oct 16 @ 10:22 PM EDT
    A1: a designated score of achievement indicating skill mastery or progress towards mastery #aledchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:04 PM EDT
      Q1: What is a grade? Point out the difference (if any) between what it should be and what it usually is. #ALedchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 16 @ 10:23 PM EDT
    Just getting here. Trying to catch up! #ALedchat
  • KimberBlodgett Oct 16 @ 10:23 PM EDT
    A3: to please the parents. Let's be honest. Grades are for the parents to be pleased in their child and the teacher. #Aledchat
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:23 PM EDT
    I believe you are exactly right! #fact #aledchat
    In reply to @CCHS_Principal
  • CoreyAppelbaum Oct 16 @ 10:23 PM EDT
    A3) don't many districts encourage rubrics to avoid other factors in grades? Not sure if I'm misunderstanding question #ALedchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:23 PM EDT
    A3: cont- There are things like being responsible, doing what is asked, working as a team, that Ts need a way to communicate. #aledchat
  • educatormann Oct 16 @ 10:23 PM EDT
    A3: the time pressure we all fill can make fluffing grades with “accountability” scores an easier solution than reteaching. #aledchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:23 PM EDT
    We have a SuperStar among us, y'all! This teacher knows about grit and getting the MOST of out Ss and Ts #ALedchat
    • sanchelli10 Oct 16 @ 10:20 PM EDT
      Especially in the lower levels. Critical in developing the grit & character to persevere & master the skills and content. #GRIT #Aledchat
  • eileen_depka Oct 16 @ 10:23 PM EDT
    Past practices seem to confuse best practices in grading.Multiple demos of understanding will result in pure reliable grades.#aledchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:24 PM EDT
    Actually, if you study your edhistory, even those schools didn't NEED compliant workers, they just wanted them. #aledchat
    • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:22 PM EDT
      A3: Tradition. Early schools needed compliant workers who did things a certain way (including legible handwriting). #ALedchat
      In reply to @ezigbo_
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:24 PM EDT
    I agree, Karen! #ALedchat
    In reply to @sanchelli10
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:24 PM EDT
    Awesome!!!! #aledchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 16 @ 10:24 PM EDT
    Grades are irrelevant if not all teachers are offering similar experience. #ALEdChat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:19 PM EDT
      Q3: Understanding is important when we seek to grow. WHY do multiple factors get included in grades? #ALedchat
  • Vjack524 Oct 16 @ 10:24 PM EDT
    Q3: Some think we're teaching "responsibility". Others use assigning grades as a classroom management tool. #ALedchat
  • GraysonLawrence Oct 16 @ 10:24 PM EDT
    A3: “Rules” get in the way, 3 grades a week, Give some “fluff” grades.I don’t want a parent conference. Sound familiar? #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:19 PM EDT
      Q3: Understanding is important when we seek to grow. WHY do multiple factors get included in grades? #ALedchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:24 PM EDT
    Absolutely! #aledchat
    • GraysonLawrence Oct 16 @ 10:15 PM EDT
      You bet they did so we should put 100 in INOW right?? 😂😂😂🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
  • educatormann Oct 16 @ 10:24 PM EDT
    Unfortunately if an outlet for this communication isn’t provided grades become the only option #aledchat
    In reply to @DrHSutherland
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:24 PM EDT
    many, but not all. We are working on it, but not there yet. #aledchat
    In reply to @CoreyAppelbaum
  • jehatfieldEDU Oct 16 @ 10:24 PM EDT
    That’s exactly right. There’s truly no good answer for Q3, no justification. #aledchat
    • CCHS_Principal Oct 16 @ 10:22 PM EDT
      A3- I think a lot of teachers are afraid to give the grades that many students might earn without outside factors. #aledchat
      • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:19 PM EDT
        Q3: Understanding is important when we seek to grow. WHY do multiple factors get included in grades? #ALedchat
  • JWOKMATH Oct 16 @ 10:25 PM EDT
    A4: unfortunately Ts include the “backstory” in their grading, including effort, rewarding what they consider acceptable behavior…most teachers WANT to give students every opportunity to be successful, even if they are unable to master content #ALEdChat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:19 PM EDT
      Q3: Understanding is important when we seek to grow. WHY do multiple factors get included in grades? #ALedchat
  • ashk4ua Oct 16 @ 10:25 PM EDT
    This is convicting to me as a parent too because I'm programmed to want my child to get that A! #aledchat https://t.co/7MZMGxebiw
    • KimberBlodgett Oct 16 @ 10:23 PM EDT
      A3: to please the parents. Let's be honest. Grades are for the parents to be pleased in their child and the teacher. #Aledchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:25 PM EDT
    You are right but we should refuse to be part of the game of make-believe. Students and parents both deserve accurate reporting #aledchat
    • KimberBlodgett Oct 16 @ 10:23 PM EDT
      A3: to please the parents. Let's be honest. Grades are for the parents to be pleased in their child and the teacher. #Aledchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:25 PM EDT
    I agree. This is why I am researching different options that could be included on report cards. #aledchat
    In reply to @educatormann
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 16 @ 10:25 PM EDT
    I agree! #AlEdChat
    • Vjack524 Oct 16 @ 10:24 PM EDT
      Q3: Some think we're teaching "responsibility". Others use assigning grades as a classroom management tool. #ALedchat
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:25 PM EDT
    If you could wave a wand & create the ideal, what would this look like? #ALedchat
    In reply to @educatormann, @DrHSutherland
  • TechySewell Oct 16 @ 10:25 PM EDT
    The time @ezigbo_ moderates #ALEdchat & I can’t participate.
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:25 PM EDT
    A3: While some Ts focus on teaching responsibility; some exert their energy providing Ss with grace...which is most effective? #ALedchat
    • Vjack524 Oct 16 @ 10:24 PM EDT
      Q3: Some think we're teaching "responsibility". Others use assigning grades as a classroom management tool. #ALedchat
  • ElginElgin3 Oct 16 @ 10:25 PM EDT
    Joining late. IEP progress reports....The life of a SPED teacher. Amanda Elgin, SPED k-3, Athens City Schools #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:25 PM EDT
    Don't let question 4 sneak up on you. It's a good one #aledchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:26 PM EDT
    Glad you are here Amanda! #aledchat
    In reply to @ElginElgin3
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:26 PM EDT
    Welcome! Glad you're here, Amanda! #ALedchat
    In reply to @ElginElgin3
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:26 PM EDT
    Agreed! Again it goes back to the balance between offering a consistent/uniform experience and T autonomy; there is a sweet spot #ALedchat
    • JackieAFlowers Oct 16 @ 10:24 PM EDT
      Grades are irrelevant if not all teachers are offering similar experience. #ALEdChat
      • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:19 PM EDT
        Q3: Understanding is important when we seek to grow. WHY do multiple factors get included in grades? #ALedchat
  • Vjack524 Oct 16 @ 10:26 PM EDT
    Neither! #Aledchat
    • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:25 PM EDT
      A3: While some Ts focus on teaching responsibility; some exert their energy providing Ss with grace...which is most effective? #ALedchat
      • Vjack524 Oct 16 @ 10:24 PM EDT
        Q3: Some think we're teaching "responsibility". Others use assigning grades as a classroom management tool. #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:27 PM EDT
    Stop it Ashli Polizos! Demand growth not perfection :O) #NBCTStrong know better! #aledchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:27 PM EDT
    Q4: Based on your experience, is it true that "if we don't grade it, the students won't care enough to do it"? #ALedchat
  • educatormann Oct 16 @ 10:27 PM EDT
    Love it! I think the goal is to make sure it’s meaningful to Ss. We have “conduct” grades now that are basically meaningless. #aledchat
    In reply to @DrHSutherland
  • emilysljohnson Oct 16 @ 10:28 PM EDT
    A3: Factoring in other areas allows Ss who have a strong work ethic but struggle to earn an A. Also Ts use points as incentives. #aledchat
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:28 PM EDT
    A4: At the elementary level, it isn't the case. You love it=they love it! #aledchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:28 PM EDT
    A4: I think this is something we struggle with at the HS level. We have to find ways to build a culture that goes against this! #aledchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:28 PM EDT
    How about a very small number of clearly defined traits (ie punctuality, collaboration) graded/reported via a rubric? #aledchat
    • educatormann Oct 16 @ 10:27 PM EDT
      Love it! I think the goal is to make sure it’s meaningful to Ss. We have “conduct” grades now that are basically meaningless. #aledchat
      In reply to @DrHSutherland
  • educatormann Oct 16 @ 10:28 PM EDT
    A4: this speaks to classroom culture. Are we focused on the outcome or the process? #aledchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • ElginElgin3 Oct 16 @ 10:28 PM EDT
    A3: All Ss have diff. learning styles/rates. It's not always the destination, but rather the journey that grades reflect. #Aledchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:19 PM EDT
      Q3: Understanding is important when we seek to grow. WHY do multiple factors get included in grades? #ALedchat
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:28 PM EDT
    It's a hard cycle to get out of, even as a parent. What other means is there to know our child's progress? #ALedchat
    In reply to @ashk4ua
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:29 PM EDT
    A4: this is contingent on the relationship; if Ss truly believe the teacher has a purpose in the assignment maybe not. #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:27 PM EDT
      Q4: Based on your experience, is it true that "if we don't grade it, the students won't care enough to do it"? #ALedchat
  • effortfuleduktr Oct 16 @ 10:29 PM EDT
    A4 - Not necessarily. Ss in my room complete retrieval Qs daily so they can assess their prior learning...no grade attached. #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:27 PM EDT
      Q4: Based on your experience, is it true that "if we don't grade it, the students won't care enough to do it"? #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:29 PM EDT
    This is basically my answer: show me the 9 month old who refuses to bite things unless he gets a grade for it. #aledchat
  • CoreyAppelbaum Oct 16 @ 10:29 PM EDT
    A4) that's why personalized feedback is always preferential, if S's respect & look up to you they will not want to disappoint #ALedchat
  • emilybharris Oct 16 @ 10:29 PM EDT
    A4: It's all about the culture. HS Ss know whether the assignment means something or if it is just a filler--trust me they know! #aledchat
  • DegaSuper Oct 16 @ 10:29 PM EDT
    #aledchat a:4 if it's relevant, meaningful and engaging- plus we provide some type of feedback... they'll do anything.
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:27 PM EDT
      Q4: Based on your experience, is it true that "if we don't grade it, the students won't care enough to do it"? #ALedchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 16 @ 10:30 PM EDT
    If we make the inquiry relevant, they won't care about the grade. The focus will be on the inquiry and the learning. #ALEdChat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:27 PM EDT
      Q4: Based on your experience, is it true that "if we don't grade it, the students won't care enough to do it"? #ALedchat
  • CCHS_Principal Oct 16 @ 10:30 PM EDT
    A4- why don’t we grade it? B/c it’s usually busy work to make Ss remain compliant. How much is truly 4 Mastery? Must answer that Q #aledchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:27 PM EDT
      Q4: Based on your experience, is it true that "if we don't grade it, the students won't care enough to do it"? #ALedchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:30 PM EDT
    A4: I will say that when math HW is not for a grade, many don't do it, they are ill prepared later for tests...I have seen this #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:27 PM EDT
      Q4: Based on your experience, is it true that "if we don't grade it, the students won't care enough to do it"? #ALedchat
  • GraysonLawrence Oct 16 @ 10:30 PM EDT
    A4: It is definitely true that if students have buy-in they will meet and exceed expectations for achievement. #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:27 PM EDT
      Q4: Based on your experience, is it true that "if we don't grade it, the students won't care enough to do it"? #ALedchat
  • jehatfieldEDU Oct 16 @ 10:30 PM EDT
    A4: When they know it’s relevant, know the target, and know the T will provide feedback... S will work for you. Culture is key. #ALedchat
  • coachaldridge Oct 16 @ 10:30 PM EDT
    A4: previously yes;this year I have found if they know the why behind the assignment the Ss general try to do well w/o the grade. #aledchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • huels_ryan Oct 16 @ 10:30 PM EDT
    A4 Assigning grades doesn’t make an assignment meaningful, empowering kids to tackle tasks that they can relate to does #ALedchat
  • JWOKMATH Oct 16 @ 10:30 PM EDT
    A4: let’s say this instead “if they don’t receive written feedback, the students won’t care enough to do it” just marking right or wrong isn’t giving students what they need to take the next steps to be successful. Meaningful feedback is necessary. #ALEdchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:27 PM EDT
      Q4: Based on your experience, is it true that "if we don't grade it, the students won't care enough to do it"? #ALedchat
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:30 PM EDT
    My daughter's tutor talked to me about her math understanding that was not reflected in grades. T had no clue what my D knew. #ALedchat
    In reply to @KimberBlodgett
  • AutummJ Oct 16 @ 10:31 PM EDT
    A4: Depends on the culture you've created in your classroom. Goal is deeper learning & if Ss know that, they'll work regardless. #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:27 PM EDT
      Q4: Based on your experience, is it true that "if we don't grade it, the students won't care enough to do it"? #ALedchat
  • Paulateachingis Oct 16 @ 10:31 PM EDT
    A3: We include different factors to make Mom& Dad proud of little Johnny because Ps aren't satisfied with having an average child #ALedchat
  • eileen_depka Oct 16 @ 10:31 PM EDT
    Ss want to succeed and be confident in ability. Grades don't make them care like real world,worthwile tasks& engagement do.#aledchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:31 PM EDT
    The claim suggests that we can't think of a way to motive students other than a grade though. Surely we CAN though, right #aledchat
    • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:30 PM EDT
      A4: I will say that when math HW is not for a grade, many don't do it, they are ill prepared later for tests...I have seen this #ALedchat
      • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:27 PM EDT
        Q4: Based on your experience, is it true that "if we don't grade it, the students won't care enough to do it"? #ALedchat
  • emilysljohnson Oct 16 @ 10:31 PM EDT
    A4: many times that is the case especially at the secondary level. #aledchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:31 PM EDT
    So True! #ALedchat
    • AutummJ Oct 16 @ 10:31 PM EDT
      A4: Depends on the culture you've created in your classroom. Goal is deeper learning & if Ss know that, they'll work regardless. #ALedchat
      • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:27 PM EDT
        Q4: Based on your experience, is it true that "if we don't grade it, the students won't care enough to do it"? #ALedchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 16 @ 10:32 PM EDT
    Culture is key! As well as collective efficacy! #ALEdChat
    • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:28 PM EDT
      A4: I think this is something we struggle with at the HS level. We have to find ways to build a culture that goes against this! #aledchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:32 PM EDT
    Excellent clarification! #ALedchat
    • JWOKMATH Oct 16 @ 10:30 PM EDT
      A4: let’s say this instead “if they don’t receive written feedback, the students won’t care enough to do it” just marking right or wrong isn’t giving students what they need to take the next steps to be successful. Meaningful feedback is necessary. #ALEdchat
      • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:27 PM EDT
        Q4: Based on your experience, is it true that "if we don't grade it, the students won't care enough to do it"? #ALedchat
  • ryanr_lester Oct 16 @ 10:32 PM EDT
    This is a cycle that needs to break. Grades do not inspire life long learning. Join the Gradeless movement #aledchat #tg2chat
    In reply to @Jennifer_Hogan, @ashk4ua
  • educatormann Oct 16 @ 10:32 PM EDT
    Keyword alert - “feedback”. Students may not care about the grade but do want to know the work mattered and deserved feedback. #aledchat
    In reply to @jehatfieldEDU
  • ElginElgin3 Oct 16 @ 10:32 PM EDT
    A4: In my experience, no. My Ss would rather hear words of praise. Valid/authentic praise goes a long way to build intrinsic mot. #aledchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:27 PM EDT
      Q4: Based on your experience, is it true that "if we don't grade it, the students won't care enough to do it"? #ALedchat
  • cfluker6 Oct 16 @ 10:32 PM EDT
    A4:As a former HS T, I feel that HS Ss work harder on "graded" assignments. They value those more because they want a good "grade" #aledchat
  • proudfootedu Oct 16 @ 10:32 PM EDT
    A4. It depends on the assessment and whether its meaningful for life. Planning meaninful assessments is key. #aledchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:32 PM EDT
    What have we done to undo the conditioning that leads to this? #aledchat
  • Vjack524 Oct 16 @ 10:32 PM EDT
    A4: Meaningful assignments versus busy work. I believe Ss can tell a difference. Also, classroom climate plays a part in this too. #ALedchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:32 PM EDT
    Hard to keep that relevancy consistent. I agree with you though #ALedchat
    • JackieAFlowers Oct 16 @ 10:30 PM EDT
      If we make the inquiry relevant, they won't care about the grade. The focus will be on the inquiry and the learning. #ALEdChat
      • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:27 PM EDT
        Q4: Based on your experience, is it true that "if we don't grade it, the students won't care enough to do it"? #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:33 PM EDT
    Look alive, here comes question 5 #aledchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:33 PM EDT
    Hey @GraysonLawrence get the broom! Mic drop on #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:29 PM EDT
      This is basically my answer: show me the 9 month old who refuses to bite things unless he gets a grade for it. #aledchat
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:33 PM EDT
    A4: In most situations, yes. By the time they get to HS, they are trained to do tasks for grades. #ALedchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • CESYoda Oct 16 @ 10:33 PM EDT
    A1: They should show student learning and growth over a period of time. They sometimes show kids behavior effort and 👨🏾‍🏫 ❤️#aledchat
  • JWOKMATH Oct 16 @ 10:33 PM EDT
    And unfortunately these types of questions rarely align with the #HoT questions that are so often found on the ACT and SAT. Quality questions have multiple layers of depth and showcase multiple skills at once. #ALEdChat #conceptual not procedural
    • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:30 PM EDT
      A4: I will say that when math HW is not for a grade, many don't do it, they are ill prepared later for tests...I have seen this #ALedchat
      • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:27 PM EDT
        Q4: Based on your experience, is it true that "if we don't grade it, the students won't care enough to do it"? #ALedchat
  • ashk4ua Oct 16 @ 10:34 PM EDT
    A4: Two other motivators that work better than "if it's for a grade": if it's FUN or a CHALLENGE #ALedchat https://t.co/d1HbrL93RQ
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:27 PM EDT
      Q4: Based on your experience, is it true that "if we don't grade it, the students won't care enough to do it"? #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:34 PM EDT
    Q5: True/false "Students NEED extra credit/points off late work/[insert any grade factor ≠ mastery] in order to be successful" #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:34 PM EDT
    So how how can we untrain em? #aledchat
  • CESYoda Oct 16 @ 10:34 PM EDT
    I’m in another mtg trying to but failing miserably. You and I can chat it up afterwards using the # #aledchat
    In reply to @TechySewell, @ezigbo_
  • dalehancock Oct 16 @ 10:34 PM EDT
    The amount of work assigned could determine whether it is completed. If they can’t do 15 problems right they’re not going to 50. #ALedchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:34 PM EDT
    that's why I am here tonight @ezigbo_ I was promised that you had the answers to all of these quandries lol #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:31 PM EDT
      The claim suggests that we can't think of a way to motive students other than a grade though. Surely we CAN though, right #aledchat
      • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:30 PM EDT
        A4: I will say that when math HW is not for a grade, many don't do it, they are ill prepared later for tests...I have seen this #ALedchat
        • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:27 PM EDT
          Q4: Based on your experience, is it true that "if we don't grade it, the students won't care enough to do it"? #ALedchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:35 PM EDT
    A5: False- but redoing assignments and assessments until mastery is a great substitute. #aledchat
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:35 PM EDT
    "What gets measured gets done." Is this your experience? #ALedchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:35 PM EDT
    The answer lies within you grasshopper! #aledchat
    • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:34 PM EDT
      that's why I am here tonight @ezigbo_ I was promised that you had the answers to all of these quandries lol #ALedchat
      • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:31 PM EDT
        The claim suggests that we can't think of a way to motive students other than a grade though. Surely we CAN though, right #aledchat
        • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:30 PM EDT
          A4: I will say that when math HW is not for a grade, many don't do it, they are ill prepared later for tests...I have seen this #ALedchat
          • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:27 PM EDT
            Q4: Based on your experience, is it true that "if we don't grade it, the students won't care enough to do it"? #ALedchat
  • DrJimmyShaw - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:35 PM EDT
    What are they? #ALedchat
    • ashk4ua Oct 16 @ 10:34 PM EDT
      A4: Two other motivators that work better than "if it's for a grade": if it's FUN or a CHALLENGE #ALedchat https://t.co/d1HbrL93RQ
      • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:27 PM EDT
        Q4: Based on your experience, is it true that "if we don't grade it, the students won't care enough to do it"? #ALedchat
  • emilegaiton Oct 16 @ 10:35 PM EDT
    Q5: Feom. SPEd standpoint—walk a mile in their shoes. #aledchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:34 PM EDT
      Q5: True/false "Students NEED extra credit/points off late work/[insert any grade factor ≠ mastery] in order to be successful" #ALedchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 16 @ 10:35 PM EDT
    Times are changing! Believe! #ALEdchat
  • emilybharris Oct 16 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    @rickwormeli2 is a huge proponent of this! #aledchat
    In reply to @DrHSutherland, @rickwormeli2
  • ryanr_lester Oct 16 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    What about those without engaged parents? Rethinking grading is an equity issue we need to consider. #aledchat
    In reply to @ashk4ua
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    A5: False.we do need to assess mastery of content though.Late or not..what do they know?Grades shouldn't be a consequence for beh. #aledchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    Agreed; this is why the work assigned not worthy of a grade may be wasteful; we only keep batting averages during games not BP #ALedchat
    • JWOKMATH Oct 16 @ 10:33 PM EDT
      And unfortunately these types of questions rarely align with the #HoT questions that are so often found on the ACT and SAT. Quality questions have multiple layers of depth and showcase multiple skills at once. #ALEdChat #conceptual not procedural
      • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:30 PM EDT
        A4: I will say that when math HW is not for a grade, many don't do it, they are ill prepared later for tests...I have seen this #ALedchat
        • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:27 PM EDT
          Q4: Based on your experience, is it true that "if we don't grade it, the students won't care enough to do it"? #ALedchat
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    It's got to be a systemic change. AND, I have more thoughts that I should blog about. #140notenough #ALedchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • educatormann Oct 16 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    False. Two separate methods of accountability in a perfect world. Unfortunately our teaching world is flawed. #aledchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    I find that to be a very dangerous aphorism. It leads to action driven by measurement. We lose the forest for the trees #aledchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    Ha! I am really enjoying the diverse vantage points and philosophies on here tonight #Aledchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:35 PM EDT
      The answer lies within you grasshopper! #aledchat
      • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:34 PM EDT
        that's why I am here tonight @ezigbo_ I was promised that you had the answers to all of these quandries lol #ALedchat
        • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:31 PM EDT
          The claim suggests that we can't think of a way to motive students other than a grade though. Surely we CAN though, right #aledchat
          • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:30 PM EDT
            A4: I will say that when math HW is not for a grade, many don't do it, they are ill prepared later for tests...I have seen this #ALedchat
            • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:27 PM EDT
              Q4: Based on your experience, is it true that "if we don't grade it, the students won't care enough to do it"? #ALedchat
  • GraysonLawrence Oct 16 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    A5: False..here again…compliance or mastery what are you looking for? #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:34 PM EDT
      Q5: True/false "Students NEED extra credit/points off late work/[insert any grade factor ≠ mastery] in order to be successful" #ALedchat
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    Amen...not enough characters! #aledchat
    In reply to @Jennifer_Hogan, @ezigbo_
  • coachaldridge Oct 16 @ 10:37 PM EDT
    A5: if my utility bills are late I get a fine—same principle. Teaching soft skills. It’s also a teachable skill (punctuality). #aledchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • eileen_depka Oct 16 @ 10:37 PM EDT
    We need tobreak that pattern. Life outside of school will be a struggle. In the real world,a grade will not be part of the picture.#aledchat
    In reply to @Jennifer_Hogan, @ezigbo_
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:37 PM EDT
    YES! There's plenty of room on this bully pulpit! #aledchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:37 PM EDT
    Redundancy is the proverbial "Roundup" of engagement #ALedchat
    • dalehancock Oct 16 @ 10:34 PM EDT
      The amount of work assigned could determine whether it is completed. If they can’t do 15 problems right they’re not going to 50. #ALedchat
  • CoreyAppelbaum Oct 16 @ 10:37 PM EDT
    Is it bad I just had to google "aphorism"? #AlEdChat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • huels_ryan Oct 16 @ 10:37 PM EDT
    A5 Extra credit is a cop out to actually helping kids in need of support. Students deserve multiple opportunities for success #ALedchat
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:38 PM EDT
    I think we ALL prioritize tasks. Some we do becuase they're "measured," some becuase they're meaningful. #ALedchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:38 PM EDT
    I agree that actions have consequences. My question is whether it is right to use academic grades as a level for accountability. #aledchat
    • coachaldridge Oct 16 @ 10:37 PM EDT
      A5: if my utility bills are late I get a fine—same principle. Teaching soft skills. It’s also a teachable skill (punctuality). #aledchat
      In reply to @ezigbo_
  • bama_sims Oct 16 @ 10:38 PM EDT
    #aledchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • emilegaiton Oct 16 @ 10:38 PM EDT
    A5: From a SPEd standpoint-not all the time, but in many cases-it wouldn’t hurt 4 the gen ed T to walk a mile in the S shoes. #aledchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:38 PM EDT
    A5: Do we take cash off the check at the end of the month if someone is 5 minutes late bc the care wouldn't start? #justsayin #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:34 PM EDT
      Q5: True/false "Students NEED extra credit/points off late work/[insert any grade factor ≠ mastery] in order to be successful" #ALedchat
  • JWOKMATH Oct 16 @ 10:38 PM EDT
    A5: Ooohhh this is a tough one. In a #HiEd setting students know when cut off windows are, so assignments can be done at a Ss own pace. We have all pressed a deadline! Are we so insecure in our assignments difficulty/originality that we restrict when they are available? #ALEdChat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:34 PM EDT
      Q5: True/false "Students NEED extra credit/points off late work/[insert any grade factor ≠ mastery] in order to be successful" #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:39 PM EDT
    Agreed. I am not advocating for getting one's self into trouble simply to make a point. I also complete work that's due tomorrow! #aledchat
    In reply to @Jennifer_Hogan
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    Question 6 is next folks! #aledchat
  • coachaldridge Oct 16 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    Yes to a point but not w/o knowing the circumstances of the lateness. #aledchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    Or because their PLP is not done in time? #ALedchat
    In reply to @mkiser2
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 16 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    False. If we are mastering standards at a pace that fits us, no need for extra credit or points deducted. #ALEdChat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:34 PM EDT
      Q5: True/false "Students NEED extra credit/points off late work/[insert any grade factor ≠ mastery] in order to be successful" #ALedchat
  • eileen_depka Oct 16 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    Multiple stndrds-based assesmnt that give Ss opportunities to show what the know will give accurate performance info. Not xtra c.#aledchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • dalehancock Oct 16 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    Instead of extra credit, provide extra support. #ALedchat
  • Paulateachingis Oct 16 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    A4: In some cases yes. Many of our Ss will try because they know if they don't get it we will reteach& we are reaching goals. #aledchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    A5: I like ind XC; gotta do something 2 get something; nothing wrong with allowing opportunities 2 improve; can't be 4 Kleenex #ALedchat
    • huels_ryan Oct 16 @ 10:37 PM EDT
      A5 Extra credit is a cop out to actually helping kids in need of support. Students deserve multiple opportunities for success #ALedchat
  • CCHS_Principal Oct 16 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    A5- False. Activities for extension of learning are great. Didn’t @tbice say time was a variable? #aledchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:34 PM EDT
      Q5: True/false "Students NEED extra credit/points off late work/[insert any grade factor ≠ mastery] in order to be successful" #ALedchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:41 PM EDT
    A little grace goes a LONG way; instead of teaching the world is hard, teach them that grace abounds and people care #ALedchat
  • JWOKMATH Oct 16 @ 10:41 PM EDT
    Perhaps, if the car has consistent problems and it happens often enough!! We all know that one person that has a rotating bank of #excuses ! #ALEdChat
    In reply to @mkiser2
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:42 PM EDT
    my opinion/experience is that we're well able to hold students accountable (& even discipline them) without using grades to do so. #aledchat
    In reply to @coachaldridge
  • eileen_depka Oct 16 @ 10:42 PM EDT
    So true! And if they can do 15, there's no need for 50. Readiness is also a factor. If they're not ready, why assign?#aledchat
    In reply to @dalehancock
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:42 PM EDT
    We all need grace and permission to fail forward. Grades sometimes lack the grace of failing forward. #NotJust4Adults #aledchat
    In reply to @mkiser2
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:42 PM EDT
    Q6: How hard is it to "purify" my grades? Share your best/worst experiences with removing *distorting* factors from your grades. #ALedchat
  • ElginElgin3 Oct 16 @ 10:42 PM EDT
    A5: False. Ss who do not master a skill need authentic feedback, opp. to learn from errors, & lessons revisited in a diff. way to be successful. #aledchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:34 PM EDT
      Q5: True/false "Students NEED extra credit/points off late work/[insert any grade factor ≠ mastery] in order to be successful" #ALedchat
  • proudfootedu Oct 16 @ 10:43 PM EDT
    A5. False. Ss need personalized instruct. & support for success. I've worked for teachers who taught & cared, not xtra-credit. #aledchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 16 @ 10:43 PM EDT
    Amen! #ALEdChat
  • SchooLeader Oct 16 @ 10:43 PM EDT
    Do you want your parachute packed by someone who got it 70% right every time or someone who trained, worked up to 100%? #ALedchat
  • dalehancock Oct 16 @ 10:43 PM EDT
    If we were graded/judged the way we grade/judge our students would we still have a job? #ALedchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:44 PM EDT
    agreed; but we should help get that 1 person's car to the shop; not paint with a broadbrush in every instance; #ALedchat
    • JWOKMATH Oct 16 @ 10:41 PM EDT
      Perhaps, if the car has consistent problems and it happens often enough!! We all know that one person that has a rotating bank of #excuses ! #ALEdChat
      In reply to @mkiser2
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:44 PM EDT
    A6: When I removed extra credit, time, & discipline from grades & allowed/required redos, students started owning their *learning* #aledchat
  • emilysljohnson Oct 16 @ 10:44 PM EDT
    A5: false bc need is a strong word. #aledchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:44 PM EDT
    I'll buy that. Do you care to elaborate? #aledchat
  • JWOKMATH Oct 16 @ 10:44 PM EDT
    #PRAISE for this. There is no alternative to quality instruction. Take the time to meet students where they are and lift their possibilities instead of rushing through. It will help them in the long run! #ALEdChat
    • JackieAFlowers Oct 16 @ 10:40 PM EDT
      False. If we are mastering standards at a pace that fits us, no need for extra credit or points deducted. #ALEdChat
      • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:34 PM EDT
        Q5: True/false "Students NEED extra credit/points off late work/[insert any grade factor ≠ mastery] in order to be successful" #ALedchat
  • cfluker6 Oct 16 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    A6. Removing the fluff from Ss grade and realizing that about 50% of the class wasn't passing. Made me self relfect as as T!!! #aledchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    a6: traditional schedules of reporting periods can make innovation difficult as it may take longer; not taking 0's, #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:42 PM EDT
      Q6: How hard is it to "purify" my grades? Share your best/worst experiences with removing *distorting* factors from your grades. #ALedchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    So true! #ALedchat
  • sanchelli10 Oct 16 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    Be deliberate and intentional at helping students master the skills needed to learn and apply the content. #Aledchat
  • huels_ryan Oct 16 @ 10:46 PM EDT
    A6 We stopped assigning grades to things that come down to parental support like reading logs. Not meaningful assessment #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:46 PM EDT
    Oh my goodness, me too! Seeing evidence like that hurts so much. Made me focus on growth, not a point grubbing system. #aledchat
    • cfluker6 Oct 16 @ 10:45 PM EDT
      A6. Removing the fluff from Ss grade and realizing that about 50% of the class wasn't passing. Made me self relfect as as T!!! #aledchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:46 PM EDT
    Exactly! #aledchat
    • jehatfieldEDU Oct 16 @ 10:43 PM EDT
      Yep. The term “XC” can be misleading. When packaged right, it can be support/recovery and evidence of mastery. Individualized.
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:47 PM EDT
    Heads up, seven's up #aledchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:47 PM EDT
    Often the Ss we are telling the world is hard live lives much more difficult than ours each and every day. We make the difference #aledchat
  • eileen_depka Oct 16 @ 10:48 PM EDT
    The question-is this performance evidence of understanding?That's academic & potentially a grade. Behavior=non graded consequence.#aledchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • JWOKMATH Oct 16 @ 10:48 PM EDT
    A6: ABSENCES! When Ss are habitually absent, we punish them with zeroes until work is made up. This often puts Ss in such a deep hole they they see no way out and we may have created a hostile home environment for the Ss that will contribute to future delinquency. #ALEdChat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:42 PM EDT
      Q6: How hard is it to "purify" my grades? Share your best/worst experiences with removing *distorting* factors from your grades. #ALedchat
  • ElginElgin3 Oct 16 @ 10:49 PM EDT
    A6 in SPED I notate each assign. indicating whether the Ss completed independ. or w/ adult support. Too much support can distort view of mastery. Ss need opp. to have productive struggle. #aledchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:42 PM EDT
      Q6: How hard is it to "purify" my grades? Share your best/worst experiences with removing *distorting* factors from your grades. #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:49 PM EDT
    Was VERY hard to be only T in my building bucking status quo though. And hard to stick to it when "that's not what my other Ts do! #aledchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:49 PM EDT
    Q7: Share ideas for action w/educators concerned about grading practices who feel restricted by school/district grading policies. #ALedchat
  • DrJimmyShaw - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:49 PM EDT
    Everybody's much is much #ALedchat
    • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:47 PM EDT
      Often the Ss we are telling the world is hard live lives much more difficult than ours each and every day. We make the difference #aledchat
  • dalehancock Oct 16 @ 10:49 PM EDT
    Looking at the number of college freshmen taking remedial courses should cause us (1st-12th) to reflect on our grading practices. #ALedchat
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:50 PM EDT
    RT! #ALedchat
    • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:47 PM EDT
      Often the Ss we are telling the world is hard live lives much more difficult than ours each and every day. We make the difference #aledchat
  • Vjack524 Oct 16 @ 10:50 PM EDT
    A6: When I don't let Ss fail, they want to do better. They know I'm not going to let them off the hook of giving their very best. #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:50 PM EDT
    What if students were allowed redos and retakes instead of extra credit? Additional opportunities to demonstrate same learning? #aledchat
    In reply to @emilysljohnson
  • proudfootedu Oct 16 @ 10:50 PM EDT
    A6. Planning is key again. There needs to be complete alignment between Obj. Inst. & Assmt. Measure the intended new learning. #ALEdChat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:50 PM EDT
    A7: Focus on standards and instruction. Grades should clearly reflect a Ss progress towards meeting those goals. #aledchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:50 PM EDT
    A7: Individual teachers can attach a behavior or classroom expectations sheet to the grade report that details "other" factors. #aledchat
  • DrJimmyShaw - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:50 PM EDT
    "You can only see the stars shine in the dark." @Ericthomasbtc #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:49 PM EDT
      Was VERY hard to be only T in my building bucking status quo though. And hard to stick to it when "that's not what my other Ts do! #aledchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:50 PM EDT
    Yes, yes, YES! #aledchat
    • dalehancock Oct 16 @ 10:49 PM EDT
      Looking at the number of college freshmen taking remedial courses should cause us (1st-12th) to reflect on our grading practices. #ALedchat
  • mjshields Oct 16 @ 10:51 PM EDT
    I'll second that, Dale! #aledchat
    • dalehancock Oct 16 @ 10:49 PM EDT
      Looking at the number of college freshmen taking remedial courses should cause us (1st-12th) to reflect on our grading practices. #ALedchat
  • emilybharris Oct 16 @ 10:51 PM EDT
    A7: A very simple start would be labeling in INOW the standard or being assessed rather than calling it a generic name #aledchat
  • emilybharris Oct 16 @ 10:51 PM EDT
    A7: contd- I would think by labeling, it would help to train parents to ask questions about a standard vs an assignment title #aledchat
  • effortfuleduktr Oct 16 @ 10:51 PM EDT
    We don't teach our Ss how to study effectively. Rereading and highlighting don't work well. Retrieval and spaced practice work. #ALedchat
    • dalehancock Oct 16 @ 10:49 PM EDT
      Looking at the number of college freshmen taking remedial courses should cause us (1st-12th) to reflect on our grading practices. #ALedchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:52 PM EDT
    a7: Operate within your lane; make the impact your process fosters undeniable for others; speak with the results not the rhetoric #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:49 PM EDT
      Q7: Share ideas for action w/educators concerned about grading practices who feel restricted by school/district grading policies. #ALedchat
  • JWOKMATH Oct 16 @ 10:52 PM EDT
    A7: talk with your admins. If they understand your reasoning they can provide #support, or provide Ts with reasoning from a district level on why they should #rethink . Always use pure data to drive the decision be it qual or quant. #document! #ALEdChat #EdLeadership
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:49 PM EDT
      Q7: Share ideas for action w/educators concerned about grading practices who feel restricted by school/district grading policies. #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:52 PM EDT
    A7: In 95 cases of 100, there is room in your policy to make a change. It's the pressure of tradition that will get you. #bebrave #aledchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:52 PM EDT
    Agreed; this can be risky in a plethora of ways. #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:49 PM EDT
      Was VERY hard to be only T in my building bucking status quo though. And hard to stick to it when "that's not what my other Ts do! #aledchat
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:53 PM EDT
    A7: Communicate with parents about what's happening in your classroom. Help them understand the philosophy behind it. #ALedchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • emilysljohnson Oct 16 @ 10:53 PM EDT
    Yes for sure but what if a Ss does extra work in addition to what other students do. Should they get extra points for extra work. #aledchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:53 PM EDT
    these are the one's with the car with the engine issues #ALedchat
    • JWOKMATH Oct 16 @ 10:48 PM EDT
      A6: ABSENCES! When Ss are habitually absent, we punish them with zeroes until work is made up. This often puts Ss in such a deep hole they they see no way out and we may have created a hostile home environment for the Ss that will contribute to future delinquency. #ALEdChat
      • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:42 PM EDT
        Q6: How hard is it to "purify" my grades? Share your best/worst experiences with removing *distorting* factors from your grades. #ALedchat
  • jehatfieldEDU Oct 16 @ 10:54 PM EDT
    Yes, provide the progress toward expectations.Informs S and P of soft skills, punctuality, etc. &doesn’t distort content mastery #aledchat
    • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:50 PM EDT
      A7: Individual teachers can attach a behavior or classroom expectations sheet to the grade report that details "other" factors. #aledchat
  • eileen_depka Oct 16 @ 10:54 PM EDT
    Follow policy, encourage conversation to change harmful practices.Provide more info to Ps & Ss if report cards are basic. #aledchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • GraysonLawrence Oct 16 @ 10:54 PM EDT
    A7: We need to begin training Ts, Ss, and Ps on appropriate grading practices so convo is about learning instead of graded assign. #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:49 PM EDT
      Q7: Share ideas for action w/educators concerned about grading practices who feel restricted by school/district grading policies. #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:54 PM EDT
    I say no. A revised evaluation of mastery based on new evidence. Not more points just for doing stuff. #aledchat
    In reply to @emilysljohnson
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:54 PM EDT
    A7: this can often be a casualty of our microwave society; the change can be achieved overnight; its a process...a journey #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:52 PM EDT
      A7: In 95 cases of 100, there is room in your policy to make a change. It's the pressure of tradition that will get you. #bebrave #aledchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:54 PM EDT
    FQ: How has your thinking about grading been recently challenged to the point that your practice has been impacted? #ALedchat
  • proudfootedu Oct 16 @ 10:55 PM EDT
    A6. Also, plan with key questions. Consider: What do I want to teach? How do I teach it? How will I know if Ss understand? #ALEdChat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:55 PM EDT
    And there you have it folks. That all for me! #aledchat
    • GraysonLawrence Oct 16 @ 10:54 PM EDT
      A7: We need to begin training Ts, Ss, and Ps on appropriate grading practices so convo is about learning instead of graded assign. #ALedchat
      • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:49 PM EDT
        Q7: Share ideas for action w/educators concerned about grading practices who feel restricted by school/district grading policies. #ALedchat
  • effortfuleduktr Oct 16 @ 10:55 PM EDT
    What a wonderful book. Should be required reading for all educators who care about the effectiveness of their teaching. #ALedchat
    In reply to @ashk4ua
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:56 PM EDT
    FQ: I have been researching better grading practices that explicitly grade standards w/ options to provide evidence of soft skills #aledchat
  • ElginElgin3 Oct 16 @ 10:56 PM EDT
    A7: Ts must be able to measure growth. Assess what is being measured (standard/goal), how you're going to determine valid mastery (rubric?), & how Ss can demon. mastery (multiple methods). Can't be one size fits all bec/ all Ss are individual. #aledchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:49 PM EDT
      Q7: Share ideas for action w/educators concerned about grading practices who feel restricted by school/district grading policies. #ALedchat
  • JWOKMATH Oct 16 @ 10:56 PM EDT
    EXACTLY! and when we finally get them in the building we only have negative for them. #badgrades #badattendance #correlation Break the cycle! Smile, offer help! You may be the only reason they come back! #ALEdchat
    In reply to @mkiser2
  • dalehancock Oct 16 @ 10:56 PM EDT
    Kindergarten teachers use standards based feedback. We need to continue this by adding the next grade to standards based reporting #ALedchat
  • jehatfieldEDU Oct 16 @ 10:56 PM EDT
    Absolutely. And be relentless with informing, sharing the “why”, and hang your hat on the integrity of your grades! #aledchat
    • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:53 PM EDT
      A7: Communicate with parents about what's happening in your classroom. Help them understand the philosophy behind it. #ALedchat
      In reply to @ezigbo_
  • effortfuleduktr Oct 16 @ 10:56 PM EDT
    FA - More low/no-stakes quizzing to inform Ss of their understanding of material in the process of learning, not just at the end. #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:54 PM EDT
      FQ: How has your thinking about grading been recently challenged to the point that your practice has been impacted? #ALedchat
  • eileen_depka Oct 16 @ 10:57 PM EDT
    If Ss are showing what they know and are achieving, is more necessary, or is it the evidence of understanding that counts?#aledchat
    In reply to @emilysljohnson, @ezigbo_
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:57 PM EDT
    FA: In recent months, I've begun to consider grading practices a matter of social justice. I am more actively helping tackle them #aledchat
  • emilybharris Oct 16 @ 10:57 PM EDT
    FQ: We are evaluating this @TCBOE. Researching about it and working together to make it better will be a positive step forward! #aledchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:58 PM EDT
    #ALedchat
    • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:56 PM EDT
      FA: Not sure anything has changed since there won't be a grade for it.....just kidding. Def reassured that others believe we can do better
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:58 PM EDT
    Huge key here Dale. Standards-based *learning* comes before standards based reporting. Kudos! #aledchat
    • dalehancock Oct 16 @ 10:56 PM EDT
      Kindergarten teachers use standards based feedback. We need to continue this by adding the next grade to standards based reporting #ALedchat
  • Jennifer_Hogan - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:58 PM EDT
    Thank you to everyone in #ALedchat tonight! What an awesome job by @ezigbo_ . Lots to consider about grading practices! #ALedchat
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:58 PM EDT
    FA: Are our grades a true reflection of student progress & mastery? What do the grades mean? Do they align w asmts? #morethananA #aledchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:59 PM EDT
    Thanks for chiming in all. @mkiser2 is right, it was too fast. I'll need to go back through to learn from the comments I missed. #aledchat
  • JWOKMATH Oct 16 @ 10:59 PM EDT
    FA: 1)Feedback is essential. Take the time to give each student the same amount of time to get the same amount of credit. 2)Free response is a chance to really get to know your students. 3)Ask students after an assignment/test what assignments they thought was helpful #ALEdChat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:54 PM EDT
      FQ: How has your thinking about grading been recently challenged to the point that your practice has been impacted? #ALedchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:59 PM EDT
    I am committed to this! Show Ss that people care for them, want the best for them, will work to help them no matter what #ALedchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 16 @ 10:59 PM EDT
    Thank you @ezigbo_ for leading our chat tonight! You have a ton of knowledge to share and we appreciate you! #aledchat
  • ElginElgin3 Oct 16 @ 10:59 PM EDT
    FA: By remembering all Ss are unique and have different ways of demonstrating skills. I cannot assess each student the same way and expect valid results. (SPED Teacher) #aledchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:54 PM EDT
      FQ: How has your thinking about grading been recently challenged to the point that your practice has been impacted? #ALedchat
  • mkiser2 Oct 16 @ 10:59 PM EDT
    #storify #ALedchat @ezigbo_
    • ezigbo_ Oct 16 @ 10:59 PM EDT
      Thanks for chiming in all. @mkiser2 is right, it was too fast. I'll need to go back through to learn from the comments I missed. #aledchat