#SAMedchat Archive

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Thursday December 15, 2016
9:00 PM EST
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Q1: What is the purpose of grades? #SAMedchat
  • AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Dec 15 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Hello #SAMedchat! Adrian from Bozeman, looking forward to tonight's chat.
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
    A1: Grades should communicate students' progress and inform teachers' instruction. #SAMedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Yes! Growth! #SAMedchat
    • CRMSprincipal Dec 15 @ 9:03 PM EST
      determine growth in students
      In reply to @LaurieBarron
  • tsnovasio Dec 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Tobin Novasio Superintendent Lockwood #SAMedchat
  • CRMSprincipal Dec 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
    to determine growth in students #SAMedchat
    In reply to @LaurieBarron
  • AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Dec 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
    A1: I believe grades guide instruction and act as a form of communication. #SAMedchat
  • cristama Dec 15 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Hi all... Crista Anderson, Dixon School Principal... Glad to be here! #samedchat
  • AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Dec 15 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Ha ha - We are on the same page!!! #SAMedchat
    In reply to @LaurieBarron
  • tsnovasio Dec 15 @ 9:05 PM EST
    A1: a snapshot of what the S's progress is at that specific time #SAMedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Agreed--Not as effective if not used for both purposes #samedchat
    In reply to @AdrianAdvinMT
  • tsnovasio Dec 15 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Oops sorry that's A2 #SAMedchat
  • tsnovasio Dec 15 @ 9:06 PM EST
    A1: to give parents feedback on their child's progress #SAMedchat
  • CRMSprincipal Dec 15 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Formative assessment should drive instruction #SAMedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Yes, Jim! Formative assessment is usually far more helpful than summative #SAMedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Do you think it works as well as students get older and parents are sometimes less involved? #SAMedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Q2: What is NOT the purpose of grades? #SAMedchat
  • timlriley Dec 15 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Hello everyone #SAMedchat tim from Omaha. Hope you don't mind me jumping in
  • cmt215il Dec 15 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Hi! Christie from frigid Chicago joining late! Middle school math & SS teacher and math dept chair. #samedchat
  • cristama Dec 15 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: The purpose of grades is to maintain ease of tradition and calculate a GPA #samedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A2: Grades should not be used to show compliance or as rewards or compensation or as punishment. #SAMedchat
  • AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Dec 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Hello from #SAMedchat! Everybody is welcome!
    In reply to @timlriley
  • SAMMTKM Dec 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
    #SAMedchat More effective to use the "physical" (Formative) to guide student instruction than the autopsy (Summative)!
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Very true, Crista. This is what we (sadly) often use them for. #SAMedchat
    In reply to @cristama
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Welcome, Christine! So glad to see you again! #AMLE #samedchat
    In reply to @cmt215il
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Welcoem Time--glad to have you join us for #SAMedchat
    In reply to @timlriley
  • cmt215il Dec 15 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A2: Grade should not be used to promote/reward "good behaviors" in students. #samedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Great analogy, Kirk! #SAMedchat
    • SAMMTKM Dec 15 @ 9:11 PM EST
      #SAMedchat More effective to use the "physical" (Formative) to guide student instruction than the autopsy (Summative)!
  • AcemtAndrea Dec 15 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A2 grades should not penalize students in the process of learning...many traditional practices like averaging so just that #samedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Agreed--do you think this is still a common practice among educators? #SAMedchat
    • cmt215il Dec 15 @ 9:12 PM EST
      A2: Grade should not be used to promote/reward "good behaviors" in students. #samedchat
  • AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Dec 15 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A2: Grades should not be used for effort, behavior, or extra credit #SAMedchat
  • cristama Dec 15 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A2: Grades should not be used to penalize students for late or missing work or as a way to communicate behavior issues #samedchat
  • AcemtAndrea Dec 15 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Hi everyone! Andrea from Billings, director of ACE. Great topic tonight! #samedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Very good point--averaging is an ineffective method to show progress in student learning. #SAMedchat
    • AcemtAndrea Dec 15 @ 9:13 PM EST
      A2 grades should not penalize students in the process of learning...many traditional practices like averaging so just that #samedchat
  • tsnovasio Dec 15 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A2: grades should not be skewed to award just the early adopters i.e. Averaging #SAMedchat
  • cmt215il Dec 15 @ 9:15 PM EST
    I think it is quite common. Many parents also expect it because it's what they remember from school. #SAMedchat
    • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:13 PM EST
      Agreed--do you think this is still a common practice among educators? #SAMedchat
      • cmt215il Dec 15 @ 9:12 PM EST
        A2: Grade should not be used to promote/reward "good behaviors" in students. #samedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Ahhh . . . late work. Late does not mean lack of knowledge of content standards. Late is usually more related to work ethic. #SAMedchat
    • cristama Dec 15 @ 9:13 PM EST
      A2: Grades should not be used to penalize students for late or missing work or as a way to communicate behavior issues #samedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Good to "meet" you! And, welcome to #SAMedchat
    In reply to @AcemtAndrea
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Q3: What are some ways to communicate student progress other than number or letter grades? #SAMedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Agreed! Learning does not have to be on the same timeline for everyone. #SAMedchat
    • tsnovasio Dec 15 @ 9:15 PM EST
      A2: grades should not be skewed to award just the early adopters i.e. Averaging #SAMedchat
  • PrincipalNyberg Dec 15 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Dang. Later than late to #samedchat Brant, MS principal from Wyoming
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Welcome--glad to have you! #SAMedchat
    In reply to @PrincipalNyberg
  • AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Dec 15 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A3: I think the most powerful way to communicate progress is to have a F2F conversation with the parent(s) #SAMedchat
  • MrBrosovich Dec 15 @ 9:19 PM EST
    #SAMedchat What do you guys do with students that do not do work. Do not complete tasks. I can't see growth if I have no product.
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A3: Student progress can be communicated through documenting progress toward individual standards (i.e., proficient or advanced) #SAMedchat
  • cristama Dec 15 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Sometimes… But I often had late work in high school. Looking back, it was because I had a nearly full-time job. @LaurieBarron #samedchat
    In reply to @LaurieBarron
  • AcemtAndrea Dec 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2 grades should not be used as a means of sorting Ss, but traditionally that is a primary aspect-i.e. honor roll, valedictorian #samedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Yes--how often do you think this realistically happens (by grade level)? #SAMedchat
  • PrincipalNyberg Dec 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
    #samedchat A3: Oh, I made soooo many mistakes with my grades when I was in the classroom...tried to grade the behaviors/homelife/etc.
  • AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Dec 15 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Have you tried alternate ways to formatively assess the S? #SAMedchat
    In reply to @MrBrosovich
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Good point--not always, certainly. Many of our students have serious outside commitments other than school. #SAMedchat
    In reply to @cristama
  • cristama Dec 15 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A3: I value standards-based grading… easier to communicate where in the learning a student is. Challenging in some disciplines. #SAMedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:21 PM EST
    I love the idea of celebrating growth instead of just achievement! #SAMedchat
    In reply to @AcemtAndrea
  • AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Dec 15 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Not enough. We have 2 formal conferences scheduled in the year, but I think convos should happen more frequently #SAMedchat
    In reply to @LaurieBarron
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Likewise here. Wish I could have those teaching years back. I need a redo. #SAMedchat
    In reply to @PrincipalNyberg
  • cristama Dec 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A3: I also have utilized portfolio assessments. Still have quantitative data through rubric scores. But more clear and consistent #SAMedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Same for us--two formal a year--parents value them. #SAMedchat
    In reply to @AdrianAdvinMT
  • cmt215il Dec 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
    This is so hard!We sometimes have success w/ deeply reducing problems on HW/quiz or doing verbal vs. written work. #SAMedchat
    In reply to @MrBrosovich
  • PrincipalNyberg Dec 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
    We are stuck in the middle in my building. Elem use SBG, but HS is traditional percentages. Difficult to bridge the gap. #samedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Great idea, especially when they travel with student year to year. Time consuming but effective, I think. #SAMedchat
    • cristama Dec 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
      A3: I also have utilized portfolio assessments. Still have quantitative data through rubric scores. But more clear and consistent #SAMedchat
  • jlyons517 Dec 15 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A3: Student learning portfolios with teacher-student conferences and student led parent/teacher conferences. #samedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Q4: What are some common grading concerns of teachers, students, and/or parents? #SAMedchat
  • cristama Dec 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Think it is getting easier w/tools like Google classroom & Evernote. Collect and curate student evidence digitally @LaurieBarron #samedchat
    In reply to @LaurieBarron
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Our junior high transitioned to standards based grading this year. Challenging, but really proud of teachers for taking the risk. #SAMedchat
    • PrincipalNyberg Dec 15 @ 9:23 PM EST
      We are stuck in the middle in my building. Elem use SBG, but HS is traditional percentages. Difficult to bridge the gap. #samedchat
  • AcemtAndrea Dec 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A3 frequent formative assessment and meaningful feedback...more grades does not equal more learning. #samedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Yes--Love Google Classroom and all of its possibilites. Kids love it, too. #SAMedchat
    • cristama Dec 15 @ 9:25 PM EST
      Think it is getting easier w/tools like Google classroom & Evernote. Collect and curate student evidence digitally @LaurieBarron #samedchat
      In reply to @LaurieBarron
  • cristama Dec 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
    You can also embed criteria side-by-side with the evidence to foster reflection and goal-setting #samedchat (invite parents)
    In reply to @LaurieBarron
  • cmt215il Dec 15 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A4: Many of our students & parents are very concerned abt & want "all A's". The grade is the driver not the learning. #samedchat
  • PrincipalNyberg Dec 15 @ 9:27 PM EST
    #samedchat A4: For Ts - grading too many/few things For Ps - not grading homework For Ss - do I get extra credit?
  • timlriley Dec 15 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A4. I think fairness, timely & accuracy r all concerns #SAMedchat
  • cmt215il Dec 15 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A4: Many students & parents are very concerned abt & want "all A's". The grade is the driver not the learning. #samedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A4: Concerns over grades based on compliance, inflated grades, grades based on work ethic. If not based on standards, then what? #SAMedchat
  • AcemtAndrea Dec 15 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A4 worked with a team today re. this-Ts worry about "defending" a standards based grade...everyone "knows" the traditional way #samedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Pretty good summary! #SAMedchat
    • PrincipalNyberg Dec 15 @ 9:27 PM EST
      #samedchat A4: For Ts - grading too many/few things For Ps - not grading homework For Ss - do I get extra credit?
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Yes--And it takes lots of time informing and educating. #SAMedchat
    • cmt215il Dec 15 @ 9:27 PM EST
      A4: Many students & parents are very concerned abt & want "all A's". The grade is the driver not the learning. #samedchat
  • AcemtAndrea Dec 15 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Parents of high achieving Ss struggle the most, because the sorting system doesn't work in the same way when implementing SBG #samedchat
    • cmt215il Dec 15 @ 9:27 PM EST
      A4: Many students & parents are very concerned abt & want "all A's". The grade is the driver not the learning. #samedchat
  • cmt215il Dec 15 @ 9:31 PM EST
    :( We had little prizes for earning ribbons on Study Island and that helped a bit but it's technically a bribe... #SAMedchat
    In reply to @MrBrosovich
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:31 PM EST
    We are in our first year of standards-based grading at our junior high. Big challenges but lots of parent support #SAMedchat
    • AcemtAndrea Dec 15 @ 9:29 PM EST
      A4 worked with a team today re. this-Ts worry about "defending" a standards based grade...everyone "knows" the traditional way #samedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Love this and the work you are doing as a staff! #evergreensd50 #SAMedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Q5: Should a student’s work ethic be assessed separately from a student’s mastery of the content standards? #SAMedchat
  • mgrosstaylor Dec 15 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Great Q! #SAMedchat
    In reply to @LaurieBarron
  • tsnovasio Dec 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A5: ABSOLUTELY!! #SAMedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A5: Mastery of content standards should be reported based on mastery of content standards, not work ethic (strong or poor). #SAMedchat
  • PrincipalNyberg Dec 15 @ 9:36 PM EST
    #samedchat A5: Yep. No question about it. It's a lesson I didn't learn until I was out of my classroom, unfortunately.
  • MrBrosovich Dec 15 @ 9:36 PM EST
    #samedchat Yeah, I have charts and stickers with rewards. Rural kids and culture do not value education. mindset needs to change.
    In reply to @cmt215il
  • AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Dec 15 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A5: Yes. Sometimes you can have an S who reaches proficiency but doesn't perform at their ability... #SAMedchat
  • AcemtAndrea Dec 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A5 Love Guskey's work: Product-achievement in standards, Process-learning skills, Progress-growth...grade all & report separate #samedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A5: Students who master content sometimes lose credit for not "playing school" or complying #SAMedchat
  • AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Dec 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A5.2: We assess the "Characteristics of a Successful Learner" in our district #SAMedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A5: Some students may not know content but grade is inflated based on great work ethic. #SAMedchat
  • MrBrosovich Dec 15 @ 9:38 PM EST
    #SAMedchat Standards based grading is tough to keep around, I know Ps look for grades, then if take standards an still look at as grades.
  • jlyons517 Dec 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A5: Absolutely. 2 separate things.Academic grade is about what hey know and can do. WkEthic is the timing of and how. #SAMedchat
  • PrincipalNyberg Dec 15 @ 9:39 PM EST
    The ability to idenfity & separate "effort" from the S grade allows Ts to be purposeful in remediating this skill. #samedchat
  • MrBrosovich Dec 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Q5, How do you do that? Student has missing assignments, tardy to school or doesn't come, in ISR how do you access if not there? #SAMedchat
  • tsnovasio Dec 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
    I may know a student that was like that 35 years ago... #SAMedchat
    • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:37 PM EST
      A5: Students who master content sometimes lose credit for not "playing school" or complying #SAMedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Yes--which takes us back to the purpose of grades--communicating progress and informing instruction. #SAMedchat
    In reply to @PrincipalNyberg
  • AcemtAndrea Dec 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A5 separating learning skills from achievement in standards & reporting both tells a full story to parents about a Ss progress #samedchat
  • timlriley Dec 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A5. How do you assess work ethic?#SAMedchat
  • cristama Dec 15 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A5: I don't think work ethic can be measured or reported as assessed. It is far too subjective. Open for bias. Implies judgment #SAMedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:41 PM EST
    No evidence does not mean failure; it means you don't yet know if they can because they haven't shown you. #SAMedchat
    In reply to @MrBrosovich
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Q6: Should students be able to redo assignments and tests, and if so, should the redo be for full credit? #SAMedchat
  • cmt215il Dec 15 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A5: Good to separate but hard without standards based grading. #samedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Yes. This. #SAMedchat
    • AcemtAndrea Dec 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
      A5 separating learning skills from achievement in standards & reporting both tells a full story to parents about a Ss progress #samedchat
  • tsnovasio Dec 15 @ 9:43 PM EST
    At some point the missing time and work will affect the learning. You just can't inflate or penalize the grade because of it... #SAMedchat
    • MrBrosovich Dec 15 @ 9:40 PM EST
      Q5, How do you do that? Student has missing assignments, tardy to school or doesn't come, in ISR how do you access if not there? #SAMedchat
  • timlriley Dec 15 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A6. Yes & yes #SAMedchat
  • AcemtAndrea Dec 15 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A6 Yes and yes:) it's about learning...that's what we say matters most, so we should align our practices accordingly. #samedchat
  • cmt215il Dec 15 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Q6: I have a hard time with this one too b/c some sts take advantage of very lenient policies. I do redos but only up to a 75%. #samedchat
  • PrincipalNyberg Dec 15 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Then we give examples, such as "completing my work to the best of my ability...will improve my understanding of the standard" #samedchat
    • PrincipalNyberg Dec 15 @ 9:42 PM EST
      Not sure I disagree with you, but here is our attempt. "I will demonstrate that positive effort leads to improved success"
  • AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Dec 15 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A6: Of course on both Qs! Time should not play a part in an S showing their ability to master a standard or goal #SAMedchat
  • tsnovasio Dec 15 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A6: Well... that is how the real world works, we are rarely judged on our first attempt. #SAMedchat
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A6: Yes--reteaching and redos increase opportunities for mastery; mastery is mastery; it doesn't need grade deductions. #SAMedchat
  • cristama Dec 15 @ 9:44 PM EST
    I don't know that you need to. I think if you stick to the standards, create meaningful learning experiences… #samedchat
    In reply to @LaurieBarron
  • PrincipalNyberg Dec 15 @ 9:45 PM EST
    #samedchat A6: Yes. But there has to be accountability on the Ss part...a process they must work through before they can re-take.
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:46 PM EST
    I really like the advice from @rickwormeli2 on managing redos and retakes. Good stuff. #SAMedchat
    In reply to @rickwormeli2
    • cmt215il Dec 15 @ 9:44 PM EST
      Q6: I have a hard time with this one too b/c some sts take advantage of very lenient policies. I do redos but only up to a 75%. #samedchat
  • AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Dec 15 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A6.2: We do not tell a driver, "Sorry, you failed your exam. You can never retake it and can not drive... ever..."#SAMedchat
  • cristama Dec 15 @ 9:47 PM EST
    differentiate appropriately… Affect & work ethic improve. Oft, system causes poor attitude. Labels stick/kids own #samedchat
    In reply to @LaurieBarron
  • MrBrosovich Dec 15 @ 9:47 PM EST
    #SAMedchat I think this has happened 4 years and Ss gets passed to next level with low achievement and not mastering much
    In reply to @tsnovasio
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Yep--the real world usually allows second chances (thank goodness). #SAMedchat
    • tsnovasio Dec 15 @ 9:44 PM EST
      A6: Well... that is how the real world works, we are rarely judged on our first attempt. #SAMedchat
  • cristama Dec 15 @ 9:48 PM EST
    what do you do if you have a student who is stuck with a bad score with that indicator. Flat-lines. #samedchat
    In reply to @PrincipalNyberg
  • PrincipalNyberg Dec 15 @ 9:48 PM EST
    #samedchat I really like Ts that offer chances to demonstrate profic in later units, or maybe in other ways rather than pencil/paper tests
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:48 PM EST
    Yes--Check out advice from @rickwormeli2 on managing redos and retakes #SAMedchat
    In reply to @rickwormeli2
    • PrincipalNyberg Dec 15 @ 9:45 PM EST
      #samedchat A6: Yes. But there has to be accountability on the Ss part...a process they must work through before they can re-take.
  • cristama Dec 15 @ 9:48 PM EST
    Do you track it longitudinally? Keep track of interventions to bring work ethic up? Thinking RTI. #samedchat
    In reply to @PrincipalNyberg
  • AcemtAndrea Dec 15 @ 9:49 PM EST
    A6 this is worth the read blog post Their Work is Real from @TomSchimmer #samedchat
    In reply to @TomSchimmer
  • AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Dec 15 @ 9:49 PM EST
    But don't have that accountability take away from showing proficiency #SAMedchat
    In reply to @PrincipalNyberg
  • cristama Dec 15 @ 9:49 PM EST
    As instructional coach, I frequently saw same kid get low scores from particular teacher in regards to attitude..#samedchat
    In reply to @PrincipalNyberg
  • PrincipalNyberg Dec 15 @ 9:49 PM EST
    I'll tell you when we get there. We don't have an answer for this right now. Suggestions anyone? #samedchat
    • cristama Dec 15 @ 9:48 PM EST
      what do you do if you have a student who is stuck with a bad score with that indicator. Flat-lines. #samedchat
      In reply to @PrincipalNyberg
  • cristama Dec 15 @ 9:50 PM EST
    but did fine in other classes… Is it always a student issue? Relationships issue perhaps? Mucky water. #samedchat
    In reply to @PrincipalNyberg
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:51 PM EST
    Q7: What are some resources or examples of practices you use to improve assessment practices? #SAMedchat
  • tsnovasio Dec 15 @ 9:51 PM EST
    @LaurieBarron Thanks! #samedchat
    In reply to @LaurieBarron
  • AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Dec 15 @ 9:51 PM EST
    This is so frustrating! That is why proficiency and behavior NEED to be separated #SAMedchat
    In reply to @cristama, @PrincipalNyberg
  • cristama Dec 15 @ 9:52 PM EST
    Me too...Personally lived with, owned, "she just doesn't work to potential" all the way K-12. Slow reader, gave up. #samedchat
    In reply to @LaurieBarron
  • AcemtAndrea Dec 15 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A7 big fan of proficiency scales based on Marzano's work as part of the assessment package #samedchat
  • cristama Dec 15 @ 9:54 PM EST
    I like transparency with that…Curious if the teachers will see inconsistencies with what they view as acceptable #samedchat
    In reply to @PrincipalNyberg
  • cmt215il Dec 15 @ 9:54 PM EST
    Absolutely! I have a retake plan that involves at least 3 types of re-learning and P and St signatures. #SAMedchat
    In reply to @ShaunForrests75
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A7: Great assessment practices resources from @rickwormeli2 @AMLE @tguskey @robertjmarzano #SAMedchat
    In reply to @rickwormeli2, @AMLE, @tguskey, @robertjmarzano
  • PrincipalNyberg Dec 15 @ 9:55 PM EST
    The hope is the "outlier" scores will drive conversation that leads to consensus. Only theory until Jan 16th :) #samedchat
    In reply to @cristama
  • cristama Dec 15 @ 9:55 PM EST
    Wasn't so frustrating to me I was numb to it. Frustrating as educator, inst leader, to see how many kids experience #samedchat
    In reply to @LaurieBarron
  • AcemtAndrea Dec 15 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A7 conversations on diagnosing and prescribing learning plans-drilling down on exactly what Ss know and don't yet w/ intention #samedchat
  • timlriley Dec 15 @ 9:56 PM EST
    What r the 3 types? #samedchat
    • cmt215il Dec 15 @ 9:54 PM EST
      Absolutely! I have a retake plan that involves at least 3 types of re-learning and P and St signatures. #SAMedchat
      In reply to @ShaunForrests75
  • cmt215il Dec 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
    It's up to the Sts to decide. It can be: test corrections, meeting with me, watching lesson videos (we record in class), etc. #samedchat
    • timlriley Dec 15 @ 9:56 PM EST
      What r the 3 types? #samedchat
      • cmt215il Dec 15 @ 9:54 PM EST
        Absolutely! I have a retake plan that involves at least 3 types of re-learning and P and St signatures. #SAMedchat
        In reply to @ShaunForrests75
  • AdrianAdvinMT - Moderator Dec 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
    @LaurieBarron Thanks for a thought provoking #SAMedchat! Have to duck out early but am looking forward to learning with you in the future!
    In reply to @LaurieBarron
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Likewise--thanks for participating! #SAMedchat
  • cristama Dec 15 @ 9:58 PM EST
    good luck!! Can't wait to hear!! #samedchat
    In reply to @PrincipalNyberg
  • LaurieBarron Dec 15 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Thank you for participating in #SAMedchat tonight and for sharing your ideas for Improving Assessment Practices!