#wvhsfbchat Archive
Sunday January 22, 2017
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Jan 22 @ 8:55 PM EST
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WVFBCHAT
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Jan 22 @ 9:00 PM EST
Welcome to
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for tonight's topic of special teams... let's get started with some into's!
WVFBCHAT
- Moderator
Jan 22 @ 9:01 PM EST
I'm your host Daran Hays, North Marion High School in Farmington WV
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CodyCaseNoSpace
Jan 22 @ 9:02 PM EST
Cody Case, D-Line Coach at East Hall High School in Gainesville, GA.
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Coach_Bullock
Jan 22 @ 9:02 PM EST
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Ben Bullock. HBC. Ocoee Knights. Florida
jrmyhanson
Jan 22 @ 9:03 PM EST
Jeremy Hanson, HC/DC Blair-Taylor, WI
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SSHS_CoachCoons
Jan 22 @ 9:04 PM EST
Jon Coons DC Saratoga Springs HS, NY
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CoachEddieYoung
Jan 22 @ 9:04 PM EST
Eddie Young HC Lajeunesse HS Windsor ON
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 22 @ 9:04 PM EST
Brandon Behnfeldt Delphos Jefferson HS OH
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coachbates
Jan 22 @ 9:04 PM EST
Mark Bates HC Village Christian, Sun Valley CA
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WVFBCHAT
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Jan 22 @ 9:06 PM EST
First question coming up in 3 minutes, we will use a Q/A format, and make sure to include the hashtag in everything
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Skillutt28
Jan 22 @ 9:06 PM EST
Jeff Lutt Co-DC & GBLBs Coach Great Bend HS, KS
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slade248
Jan 22 @ 9:06 PM EST
Slade Singleton OC Madison HS Marshall NC
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WVFBCHAT
- Moderator
Jan 22 @ 9:07 PM EST
Remember it's great to read along but even better to participate and share ideas!
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WVFBCHAT
- Moderator
Jan 22 @ 9:07 PM EST
Q1 coming right up.....
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F_Wilczynski5
Jan 22 @ 9:08 PM EST
Frank Wilczynski, HC/OC, Overbrook HS, Pine Hill, NJ
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WVFBCHAT
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Jan 22 @ 9:08 PM EST
Q1: how much time per day do you spend on special teams and is the team on a rotation (i.e.: punt Monday, return tues, etc)
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Hbfootball
Jan 22 @ 9:09 PM EST
Jason Franklin HFC Horseshoe Bend.
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canfbchat
Jan 22 @ 9:10 PM EST
Matthew Sentes OL/DL/Special Teams Coordinator Lethbridge Steel Love my specials!!!
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Coach_Bullock
Jan 22 @ 9:10 PM EST
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A1: we have a rotation. Then a mock game on Thursday. We spend on average 20 minutes. We believe in it. Specs is tip of spear
D_Mitchell91
Jan 22 @ 9:10 PM EST
OL Senatobia and
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 22 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1: about 20 min a day, try to do FG everyday, then 2 others. Rotate between days. Thursday usually a longer day with situations
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D_Mitchell91
Jan 22 @ 9:11 PM EST
OL Senatobia High (MS)
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Hbfootball
Jan 22 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: Rotation. Monday return day. Tue coverage day. Wed and Thurs all.Extra pt everyday.
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jwfaure
Jan 22 @ 9:12 PM EST
🇦🇺 Josh Faure | HC | Northern Raiders (HS equivalent) | AUSTRALIA 🇦🇺
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canfbchat
Jan 22 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1) Previous years it's been 20 minutes a practice (2 practices a week). Going to put a bigger emphasis this year.
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WVFBCHAT
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Jan 22 @ 9:13 PM EST
We are 4 periods a day( 20 min) plus we incorporate them into team periods they are on the offensive and defensive scripts.
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kdawgswift
Jan 22 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1: M - KO & KOR 10 min each. T - Punt - 10 min. W. PAT/FG 10 min Th- All of them 20 minutes
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CoachJoshHadden
Jan 22 @ 9:13 PM EST
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Josh Hadden. HC @ Aiken Middle School. Aiken, SC
SSHS_CoachCoons
Jan 22 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1: about 20 min per day. Extra point each day and then we do KO/KR one day Punt/PR others and all on pregame day.
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canfbchat
Jan 22 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1 cont) once games hit it'll depend on what needs to be worked on as to where the time goes
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11across
Jan 22 @ 9:13 PM EST
Scott McLane Head Coach Belmont HS Sentinels Los Angeles, CA
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CodyCaseNoSpace
Jan 22 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1: 15 minutes a day. Then everything during walk through Thursday and Friday.
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CoachRmcD60
Jan 22 @ 9:13 PM EST
Ryan Mcdonald OL Mooresville IN
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IMFB_Blog
Jan 22 @ 9:13 PM EST
Justin. Dottavio here from OR &
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brothers. A1) 25 min and Mon is worst Fri, Tues O, Wed D, Thur all.
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WVFBCHAT
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Jan 22 @ 9:14 PM EST
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DerekAnnechino
Jan 22 @ 9:13 PM EST
@SSHS_CoachCoons
10 minute Special Session pre-practice. 15-20 minute period depending on the day
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coachbates
Jan 22 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1: We spend 15-25 min/day, starting in summer. Alternate punt/punt ret & KO/KOR...FG every day
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jwfaure
Jan 22 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1 we don't punt, so work KO and KOR for 10 mins a session. PR we just line up a blitz defense with FS deep
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CoachRmcD60
Jan 22 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1 15-20 min a day depending on needs and game plan
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D_Mitchell91
Jan 22 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1 our kickers work every day during pre practice then we set aside 1 or 2 5 minute periods each day to cover a different phase
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F_Wilczynski5
Jan 22 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1: In-season we spend 20 minutes per day. Camp is a bit longer. Will rotate daily & all specials repped day before game
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D_Mitchell91
Jan 22 @ 9:15 PM EST
A1 on thursdays we hit them all
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WVFBCHAT
- Moderator
Jan 22 @ 9:16 PM EST
Q2 coming up in just a minute....
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jrmyhanson
Jan 22 @ 9:17 PM EST
A1) 10 minutes Monday-Wednesday, 35 minutes on Thursday. We rotate because we are small school football, kids play all teams
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CoachJoshHadden
Jan 22 @ 9:17 PM EST
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A1: ST are done on our game-like practice. Spend 8 minutes each. Ex: KO, D, PRet, O, Punt, D, KRet. Nobody does PAT in MS.
WVFBCHAT
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Jan 22 @ 9:18 PM EST
Q2: what type of personnel are you looking for on your kick coverage team, and are you balanced or 6-4?
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11across
Jan 22 @ 9:19 PM EST
We do FG/Kickoff/Punt on M/T/W (not always same day), plus Thurs. Only do returns on Thursday.
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WVFBCHAT
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Jan 22 @ 9:08 PM EST
Q1: how much time per day do you spend on special teams and is the team on a rotation (i.e.: punt Monday, return tues, etc)
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CoachJoshHadden
Jan 22 @ 9:20 PM EST
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A1 cont: SC limits middle school practice to only 2 hours incl. conditioning. Hard to get ST work in every day.
CoachRmcD60
Jan 22 @ 9:20 PM EST
Good tacklers runners who can cover and make plays. We are 5x5.
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Coach_Bullock
Jan 22 @ 9:20 PM EST
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A2: we look for speed and tackling. Also a guy that can kickoff out of the end zone. Wink.
CoachRmcD60
Jan 22 @ 9:20 PM EST
Q2 do anyof you pod up to confuse coverage
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Skillutt28
Jan 22 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2. Tough Guys who can run & tackle in open space. Have a nose for the ball. We are 5-5.
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Coach_Bullock
Jan 22 @ 9:21 PM EST
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A2: depends if we decide to kick from the hash. We sky kick a bunch if we do not have a big leg
canfbchat
Jan 22 @ 9:22 PM EST
A2) The same as all my specials. Fast and okay being in a collision. Other skills are a plus. 6-5 (Canadian)
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Hbfootball
Jan 22 @ 9:22 PM EST
A2: 5-5 and 6-4. All KO coverage guys are athletic and can tackle well.
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 22 @ 9:22 PM EST
A2: Crazy...lol. Looking quick kids who can get down the field and make a tackle. Wedge busters in the middle. Usually 5&5.
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kdawgswift
Jan 22 @ 9:22 PM EST
A2: 6-4 Kicking to near Corner 4 Side LBs TE physical decent speed. 6 side DBs & WR speed got to cover ground.
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SSHS_CoachCoons
Jan 22 @ 9:22 PM EST
A2: looking for guys that can run down the field and are good tacklers. Not afraid of contact and will run through blocks.
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Coach_Gehrts
Jan 22 @ 9:22 PM EST
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we have 2 10 minute periods a day. Monday P, PR Tues K, KO, Wed Goaline Thursday is pregame and we do all of them
11across
Jan 22 @ 9:22 PM EST
A2: 1st - good tackles. 2nd - speed. Usually no OL on coverage teams.
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WVFBCHAT
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Jan 22 @ 9:18 PM EST
Q2: what type of personnel are you looking for on your kick coverage team, and are you balanced or 6-4?
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zachdavis24
Jan 22 @ 9:23 PM EST
A2) 6-4.. want to kick the ball outside the hash to either side
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WVFBCHAT
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Jan 22 @ 9:23 PM EST
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DerekAnnechino
Jan 22 @ 9:21 PM EST
I am balanced 5 and 5. I am looking for WR, RB, LB, DB. I want kids that can run. Kicker needs to be place ball in spots
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canfbchat
Jan 22 @ 9:23 PM EST
A2 cont) I liked "chasing perfection" so I'm making players fill out an application to play specials this year. Especially ko
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coachbates
Jan 22 @ 9:23 PM EST
A2: We're 5x5, but will pod or stack to confuse. Look for kids who play fast, tackle, & want to make plays.
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D_Mitchell91
Jan 22 @ 9:23 PM EST
A2 we try to have very best 11 on all our special teams! want guys that go 100 mph and understand the importance of that play
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Coach_Bullock
Jan 22 @ 9:24 PM EST
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we start our aiming point at either top of numbers on 30 or 25. Depends. We like to kick to a weak link. Unsure hands
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canfbchat
Jan 22 @ 9:24 PM EST
A2 cont) don't kick it that far so we are looking for a recovery. Tackling not as big of an issue then for us
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CoachJoshHadden
Jan 22 @ 9:24 PM EST
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A2: 5x5. Look for speed guys to get down there along with some hitters.
kdawgswift
Jan 22 @ 9:26 PM EST
We would rather speed our time working on coverage of different style kicks into near corner or to wide soft pooch area
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zachdavis24
Jan 22 @ 9:26 PM EST
A2 cont) we want skill kids that will run and hit.. most of them are defensive starters
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Coach_Gehrts
Jan 22 @ 9:26 PM EST
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A2 we primarily have defensive guys on KO. Change up the look a lot. 6x4, 5x5, stacked, bunched etc.
CoachU_
Jan 22 @ 9:26 PM EST
A2) we go from balanced the 6-4 depending on if we kick from hash. Most kids are going to be 2 depth defensive guys
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F_Wilczynski5
Jan 22 @ 9:26 PM EST
A2: players that get downfield & tackle . Most of all, players who want to be on KO. Still fighting importance of STs
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WVFBCHAT
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Jan 22 @ 9:26 PM EST
Q3: on average how often do you onside kick in a season, And what makes you take that shot?
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SSHS_CoachCoons
Jan 22 @ 9:27 PM EST
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SSHS_CoachCoons
Jan 22 @ 9:24 PM EST
A2 cont: We have done both 5v5 and 6v4 from hash. Depends on our kicker. If he can put the ball between hash and sideline 6v4#wvhsfbchat
CoachU_
Jan 22 @ 9:27 PM EST
A3) not much at all, we did more sky right/left then anything else
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coachmolzen
Jan 22 @ 9:28 PM EST
A2) Depends on our kicker. Looking for what everyone else is. Also, disciplined. SP team penalties usually killers.
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CoachRmcD60
Jan 22 @ 9:28 PM EST
A3 depends on if you see a weakness on covg or you want to take a shot at stealing a possession
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coachbates
Jan 22 @ 9:29 PM EST
A3: 1-2 times a season, based on score. Need to do it more often, as a surprise .
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Skillutt28
Jan 22 @ 9:29 PM EST
A3. Onside only a few times this past season. Did more the previous 2 seasons. If we see an early vacanted area or open area.
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zachdavis24
Jan 22 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3) depends on the situation and it's film plus what they do on their first kickoff. Onside kicked twice last year.
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11across
Jan 22 @ 9:30 PM EST
Love this type of ST practice focus. For us, need to get kickers practicing several kicks apart from practicing coverage
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kdawgswift
Jan 22 @ 9:26 PM EST
We would rather speed our time working on coverage of different style kicks into near corner or to wide soft pooch area
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In reply to @CoachRmcD60
canfbchat
Jan 22 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3) if up to me I would everytime. Give them ball on 40 or onside and have a legit shot at the ball with them getting it at 45?
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coachmolzen
Jan 22 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3) Didn't attempt 1 last year. Had in game plan but never used. Must take a chance early in season to get teams 2 prepare 4 it
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Coach_Gehrts
Jan 22 @ 9:30 PM EST
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A3) depends how well our kicker can kick them. Our ST coach is a master mind with doing different things though
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CoachJoshHadden
Jan 22 @ 9:31 PM EST
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A3: A few times. Might do it based off their KRet alignment, a possible weak link up front, or after a big score/sudden change
F_Wilczynski5
Jan 22 @ 9:32 PM EST
A3: Didn't do it at all this past season, would like to include it to try and steal a possession if it's right situation
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WVFBCHAT
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Jan 22 @ 9:33 PM EST
Q4: most of us use several starters on special teams, what are you doing to get them to take that job as seriously as O or D?
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kdawgswift
Jan 22 @ 9:33 PM EST
A3: probably 2 to 4 times. We look for KOR Team cheating to get back or if on heels
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D_Mitchell91
Jan 22 @ 9:34 PM EST
Would like to do it more to give opponents 1 more thing they have to spend time on instead of spendin it on stopping our O or D
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canfbchat
Jan 22 @ 9:35 PM EST
A4) require a special teams application. And make them fun so they want to be on them
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Coach_Bullock
Jan 22 @ 9:35 PM EST
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A4: head coach is specs coordinator. We preach it. Reward great specs play. We show a tape of where specs won or lost 'ships
CoachRmcD60
Jan 22 @ 9:36 PM EST
A4 most of those guys are the ones who like to fly down and hit but also like to minimize reaps and maybe only give them 50%
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11across
Jan 22 @ 9:36 PM EST
Would like to do 1+ per game, for both X&O advantage, as well as making other teams prep for it.
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WVFBCHAT
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Jan 22 @ 9:26 PM EST
Q3: on average how often do you onside kick in a season, And what makes you take that shot?
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Coach_Bullock
Jan 22 @ 9:36 PM EST
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A4: if we pull starters in a blow out. They stay on specs but sit on O and D. They are that important. Sends a message.
SSHS_CoachCoons
Jan 22 @ 9:37 PM EST
A4: Have to sell the importance of special teams on the outcome of games. Gotta get them to buy in and how we need them on it.
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zachdavis24
Jan 22 @ 9:37 PM EST
A4) 0-10 to 4-6.. you start to win games, it's amazing how much buy in you get for special teams. Every rep matters!
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coachbates
Jan 22 @ 9:37 PM EST
A4: Practicing ST every day sends the message that it's just as important as O or D. Give a shirt to player of week.
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CoachU_
Jan 22 @ 9:38 PM EST
A4) putting them in positions they believe are important. ie. P.protector, Gunner, Returner, etc...
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canfbchat
Jan 22 @ 9:38 PM EST
Special Teams Application.
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canfbchat
Jan 22 @ 9:34 PM EST
not my idea. Got it from Terry Edison the special teams coordinator for De La Selle in the book "chasing perfection"
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jrmyhanson
Jan 22 @ 9:39 PM EST
A3) we try to kick one per game. Timing and attention of opponents front line factor in. We fake an inside on every kick
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Skillutt28
Jan 22 @ 9:40 PM EST
A4. Many D starters on KO. Tell em it helps out starting position for them. And HC is very involved in STs. Pride as competitor.
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jrmyhanson
Jan 22 @ 9:40 PM EST
A4) we replace them. Don't take it serious I'll play a kid that will. May lose talent, but effort & execution are more important
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WVFBCHAT
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Jan 22 @ 9:41 PM EST
Q5: what formation do you like to punt the ball out of and why?
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D_Mitchell91
Jan 22 @ 9:42 PM EST
A4 stress the importance daily. live reps in pract. N everything but KOC Show film of special teams winnin and losin games
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Hbfootball
Jan 22 @ 9:43 PM EST
A5: spread.
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Skillutt28
Jan 22 @ 9:43 PM EST
A5. We punt out of our Offense with our Q.
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kdawgswift
Jan 22 @ 9:44 PM EST
A4:Tell them if they can't go full out on ST & be great we can't hide their sorry butts O or D. Take reps away from them -O & D
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CoachU_
Jan 22 @ 9:44 PM EST
A5) personally I like the twins look with a nub side to see if there are any opportunities to catch the D off guard
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coachmolzen
Jan 22 @ 9:44 PM EST
A5) going to back to traditional spread b/c will have a good punter. Last rugby style w/ a qb
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Coach_Bullock
Jan 22 @ 9:45 PM EST
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A5: we are shield punt. Great coverage along with protection. Toying with coaches idea to punt with offense
WVFBCHAT
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Jan 22 @ 9:46 PM EST
I love to punt out of a Y trips look, gives solid protection with countless fakes!
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WVFBCHAT
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Jan 22 @ 9:47 PM EST
A5: also allows us to shift and get a 6th eligible! Forcing the d to guard 6 and return with 1 makes it tough to pressure!
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kdawgswift
Jan 22 @ 9:49 PM EST
A5: because we have a 6 play offense out of it all based on a color Punter/ QB calls after seeing coverage.
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opponents spend time
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CoachJoshHadden
Jan 22 @ 9:49 PM EST
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A5: With the kids I had this year, we were tight. Helped us block/protect better. Got gashed from spread.
WVFBCHAT
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Jan 22 @ 9:51 PM EST
Q6: what are your favorite kick and punt coverage drills?
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coachvint
Jan 22 @ 9:52 PM EST
A lot of great ideas tonight!
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canfbchat
Jan 22 @ 9:54 PM EST
A5) thinking I'll give this a try this year.
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kdawgswift
Jan 22 @ 9:54 PM EST
A6: KO Burma Road / Cans to Triangle around returner. Punt add some they have to release escape from
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coachvint
Jan 22 @ 9:56 PM EST
This may be the first chat I have followed without them! Maybe we need to mention PPO's. Punt-Pass-Options! Next book idea?
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WVFBCHAT
- Moderator
Jan 22 @ 9:53 PM EST
best thing about talking special teams is no RPO's!
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D_Mitchell91
Jan 22 @ 9:56 PM EST
A5 we go tight punt with a personal protector. Like the protection it provides. Can't cover a blocked punt !
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Skillutt28
Jan 22 @ 9:56 PM EST
A6. Early on, work on running down to landmarks vs Air. Then add in 1 or 2 KR. Then moving bods. Get into games, add scout team.
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WVFBCHAT
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Jan 22 @ 9:58 PM EST
Well that will do it! Thanks for joining, I will later tweet a link to the
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transcripts for tonight's chat!
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WVFBCHAT
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Jan 22 @ 9:59 PM EST
If anyone would like added to the GroupMe chat please shoot me a DM with your cell # tons of collaboration going on daily!
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WVFBCHAT
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Jan 22 @ 9:59 PM EST
Thanks again for joining and have a great Monday!!!!
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