#LearnLAP Archive
#LearnLAP occurs on Mondays starting at 7pm Central Time. Guest moderators and participants discuss topics from author Paul Solarz's book Learn Like a PIRATE.
Monday May 2, 2016
7:59 PM EDT
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
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! Topic: formative assessment and grading. Introduce yourself and share your favorite grilled food.
pjcerullo
May 2 @ 8:01 PM EDT
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Phil, 5th grade, ready to learn about standards based grading. Still trying to wrap my head around it. Grilled chicken is a fav.
nyrangerfan42
May 2 @ 8:01 PM EDT
good evening,
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- michael from columbus, OH, middle grades teacher (math, science, ELA)
GarnerRockstars
May 2 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Kelly from Texas,3rd & 4th grade GT, my favorite grilled food is steak!
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KRScienceLady
May 2 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Kathy fro Vermont , here to celebrate teachers and learn
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linnea_peters
May 2 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Hi!! Linnea from Grove City College in PA
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KimberlyOnak1
May 2 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Hi! Kim-HS sped teacher from IL and favorite grilled food is steak! Looks like another great topic tonight with the
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crew!
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:03 PM EDT
I'm Paul Solarz, 5th grade teacher from Arlington Heights, IL. Excited to have
@tweetjre
moderating
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tonight!
docvs1
May 2 @ 8:03 PM EDT
ESE Lead Teacher, Public Title I, all boys middle school in tampa florida.
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AC is out repairman on his way, so I may not stay
salaughs
May 2 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Sarah Sansbury--7th grade English teacher in B'ham, AL, but moving to ATL area in June
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docvs1
May 2 @ 8:04 PM EDT
@PaulSolarz
it's 95 inside my house right now
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tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Q1: Why are students graded? What is the purpose of grading?
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mrskochheiser
May 2 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Hello all! Kristin from Lansing, MI teaches ELA and SS to 6th graders!
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tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Jessie Erickson, Gr 5, Grand Forks, ND - LOVED grilled food! Steak, shrimp, salmon, chicken...
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tishrich
May 2 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Hi! Tisha Richmond, HS Culinary teacher from Medford, OR
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StefaniePitzer
May 2 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Greetings
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crew! I'm Stefanie 2nd grade teacher from Peoria, IL! Fav. grilled food: ribeye steak
pensivechatter
May 2 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Hi! Amie from Southern IL. Current 8th grade ELA...next year I'll be 6-8 academic interventionist
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nyrangerfan42
May 2 @ 8:06 PM EDT
a1: to give feedback to students as to how well they are approaching the learning targets
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KRScienceLady
May 2 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Ss are graded because it is was ew have always done. I think grading is mostly valuable for Ps.
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tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:07 PM EDT
#LearnLap
An article about grades:
https://t.co/OhMHmcTzbw
https://t.co/m0IgXsI6li
linnea_peters
May 2 @ 8:07 PM EDT
A1: The purpose of grading is to guide your lesson planning and to show them how they are doing
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perryafinch
May 2 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Hi. I'm Perry, a MS admin from Chicagoland suburbs.
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KimberlyOnak1
May 2 @ 8:07 PM EDT
A1: Ss are graded to give feedback but who is the feedback for? Sometimes the grades are too late & don't show whole picture.
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LizCrabtree
May 2 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Liz Crabtree HS business and math, grilled steak
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KRScienceLady
May 2 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Grades A, B, C, etc do not tell us anything about student learning.
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salaughs
May 2 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Did they master understanding/proficiency of the standards; accountability, feedback
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https://t.co/OCeoWVWXGa
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Q1: Why are students graded? What is the purpose of grading?
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Peebles142
May 2 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Matt, 4th grade teacher from Des Plaines, il
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tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:08 PM EDT
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https://t.co/YDVMJIaXSP
nyrangerfan42
May 2 @ 8:08 PM EDT
a1: Grading also gives Ts insight to what they need to review. Gave a quiz and 0% of Ss got #8 correct. clearly I messed up :)
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docvs1
May 2 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1: some is accountability, but I think mostly because we have always done it, & we need to evaluate S standing.
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KimberlyOnak1
May 2 @ 8:08 PM EDT
@KRScienceLady
Agreed! We've done it this way forever. Who does it benefit?
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tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1: Student work should be graded to reflect what Ss know, understand and can do in relation to the content standards.
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mrskochheiser
May 2 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1) Grading is one communication tool about a student's progress or mastery and ability to perform on a prescribed assessment
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KRScienceLady
May 2 @ 8:09 PM EDT
1 When measuring Ss proficiency, current grading systems do not work
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GarnerRockstars
May 2 @ 8:09 PM EDT
A1:P's think it's an indicator of how Ss are doing in class, or to get a GPA in HS -they don't tell us how Ss are really doing
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KaizenaHQ
May 2 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Shirley from
#TeamKaizena
popping into
#learnlap
! Excited to learn about formative assessment & grading. My fave grilled food? Grilled 🍍😍
LizCrabtree
May 2 @ 8:09 PM EDT
A1: feedback to know if they are meeting goals
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tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:09 PM EDT
@nyrangerfan42
LOVE that!!!! Yes, Ts make mistakes and WE need to monitor and adjust what we do for our Ss!
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mrskochheiser
May 2 @ 8:09 PM EDT
@pjcerullo
Try to pop in on this chat when I can! Mondays are usually very busy!
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Good to see you too!
pensivechatter
May 2 @ 8:09 PM EDT
A1: Grades mean lots of different things to different people. Whatever it is, everyone needs to be on the same page!
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StefaniePitzer
May 2 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1: Feel it is a somewhat tangible way for some Ts & Ps to know how their child is doing. Ps can understand because what used to
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duncnteach
May 2 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Marla from VA. Middle School ELA...love me a good steak!
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tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Q2: What do grades measure? What progress is being reported? What are we comparing students to?
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PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1: I assess students & give feedback but don't give grades because it has the potential to stop learning at both ends of success.
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Peebles142
May 2 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1 the purpose of grading is to provide feedback that addresses the application of knowledge
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https://t.co/4hgMb5YVY3
duncnteach
May 2 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1: purpose of the grade is to give student and parents feedback on what the student has learned and understands.
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KRScienceLady
May 2 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Ss should be getting "feedforward " to move their understanding forward
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tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:11 PM EDT
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https://t.co/4LeOAmT1wX
Growth mindset and formative assessment.
JanaGudmundson
May 2 @ 8:11 PM EDT
A1: Jana Gudmundson,North Dakota, Grilled veggies
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nyrangerfan42
May 2 @ 8:11 PM EDT
a2: grades should measure mastery of a skill or learning target. They should NOT include behavioral skills
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pjcerullo
May 2 @ 8:11 PM EDT
A1: I believe it helps to see progress and see what they know and how they are doing.
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StefaniePitzer
May 2 @ 8:11 PM EDT
A2: Grades tend to measure one moment in time rather than progress and or growth.
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mrskochheiser
May 2 @ 8:11 PM EDT
As standardized as we try to make education, I find grades the least standardized, & therefore they often don't inform Ss & Ps
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staceyreeder
May 2 @ 8:11 PM EDT
A1: Grades are the measure Ps expect; specific feedback is what Ss need to assess themselves, continue to learn and grow.
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StefaniePitzer
May 2 @ 8:11 PM EDT
@staceyreeder
Perfectly stated!
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perryafinch
May 2 @ 8:11 PM EDT
A1: Depends on stakeholder. Varying degrees of "to show where Ss R in learning.S: guide learning,T: guide instr. P: guide support
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tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
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https://t.co/a40UWw5g93
linnea_peters
May 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A2: Occasionally grades hurt the Ss and they lose motivation to truly learn, they end up just memorizing
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pensivechatter
May 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
@mrskochheiser
Exactly! Everyone has a different idea of what a grade should mean.
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KaizenaHQ
May 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Lots of great tidbits coming out of
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tonight!
https://t.co/BAJ13bz9uS
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:08 PM EDT
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https://t.co/YDVMJIaXSP
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A2: A grade is a percentage over time, does it really tell us what a S knows now? Not sure that adequately reports progress.
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docvs1
May 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A2: for me grades R frustrating.Don't show learning,pressure to pass Ss, Don't mean same thing in all classes.Status symbol 4 P
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AbigailESpicher
May 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A1: The purpose of grading is to show the students how they are doing in the class
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LizCrabtree
May 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Q2: Sometimes grades measure effort, not knowledge.
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duncnteach
May 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A2: grades should measure student learning and mastery. Ss should know their strengths and weaknesses.
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tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:13 PM EDT
#learnlap
https://t.co/xkLH8uGoUm
pjcerullo
May 2 @ 8:13 PM EDT
a2: grades don't really measure anything. Grades can be super subjective sometimes.
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nyrangerfan42
May 2 @ 8:13 PM EDT
@LizCrabtree
curious: how does that work
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KimberlyOnak1
May 2 @ 8:13 PM EDT
A2: Grades should measure learning along the way to mastery.
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FLRichter
May 2 @ 8:13 PM EDT
A1 Grading is for: admin purposes, give Ss feedback on achievements, insight into Ss work, help Ts plan & lastly motivate Ss
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KaizenaHQ
May 2 @ 8:13 PM EDT
@KimberlyOnak1
Yes! It's such a frustrating situation. Ss deserve better - timely feedback is 🔑
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tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:13 PM EDT
@linnea_peters
Pass the test then forget the rest??? Agreed.
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perryafinch
May 2 @ 8:13 PM EDT
Very well said. Like that.
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https://t.co/awoZuamhUp
KRScienceLady
May 2 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Ss should be getting "feedforward " to move their understanding forward
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duncnteach
May 2 @ 8:13 PM EDT
@docvs1
I agree. There isn't equity in CTs, schools or districts. Hard to find it b/c so many differing philosophies.
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GarnerRockstars
May 2 @ 8:13 PM EDT
A2: Grades don't allow for failures and learning from them. Grades measure differenting things & vary from class to class.
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PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2 - Grades don't always measure what we think they measure. Issues w/reliability, validity, bias, opinion, incorrect assumptions.
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Peebles142
May 2 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2 grades measure mastery of skills and content. How well did the student approach the goals for the activity?
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tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Q3: Does an “average” over the semester or quarter show student growth and improvement over time?
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KimberlyOnak1
May 2 @ 8:15 PM EDT
@FLRichter
regarding grades as motivator I think it depends on Ss.
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tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:15 PM EDT
@Peebles142
So, do you take the latest attempt as mastery for the "final grade" or are they averaged?
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duncnteach
May 2 @ 8:15 PM EDT
@LizCrabtree
I think many Ts struggle to separate work habits and mastery, and sometimes those two things overlap!
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docvs1
May 2 @ 8:15 PM EDT
@tweetjre
so then they don't turn in a couple of assignments & zeros skew or have to not count/hold accountable
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Stacilawson212
May 2 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2
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Great article about grading students.
https://t.co/PvCkFjvqT7
pensivechatter
May 2 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Assessment results can show you (and Ss) a lot, but the grade itself doesn't tell anyone much.
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KaizenaHQ
May 2 @ 8:15 PM EDT
"Grades don't allow for failures & learning from them" - so well said!
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https://t.co/PrivbYkT1v
GarnerRockstars
May 2 @ 8:13 PM EDT
A2: Grades don't allow for failures and learning from them. Grades measure differenting things & vary from class to class.
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mrskochheiser
May 2 @ 8:16 PM EDT
@pensivechatter
Yes some assessments are standardized but content delivery may vary widely from T to T as well as "what" is graded
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docvs1
May 2 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A2: I have tried resubmit policies and it is better, but still not the best
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tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:16 PM EDT
@KimberlyOnak1
@FLRichter
Seems like the bright kids coast and Ss that struggle get more frustrated.
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linnea_peters
May 2 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A3: The "average" in the beginning is the regression from summer, then they re-learn everything (big gain), then levels off
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PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A3: It's not always easy to show growth/improvement with grades, but easier to do with ePortfolios, Goal Setting, Self-Assessment.
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nyrangerfan42
May 2 @ 8:17 PM EDT
@tweetjre
@KimberlyOnak1
@FLRichter
give the bright kid a higher level question and let them struggle too!
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tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:17 PM EDT
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https://t.co/Wg5ogbfJm7
pensivechatter
May 2 @ 8:17 PM EDT
@mrskochheiser
I was imagning classroom based assessments. The rubric I design for a given project or item analysis on a test.
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GarnerRockstars
May 2 @ 8:17 PM EDT
@PaulSolarz
exactly, in my sons case, his grade reflected the misunderstanding of directions, not the content. ugh!
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KRScienceLady
May 2 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A3 No we should be looking & comparing work 2 standards. Ss artifacts frm learning will tell us more abt understanding than grade
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docvs1
May 2 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A3: not at all. 90,80, 40,20 gets same grade as 20, 40, 80, 90
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mrskochheiser
May 2 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2) I find "grades" & "feedback" diffe; Ss need to know "why" responses were correct, or not, & often this is missing on tests
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KimberlyOnak1
May 2 @ 8:18 PM EDT
@tweetjre
@FLRichter
Or the bright kids know how to play the GPA game they figure out how much to really do/not do to keep GPA
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tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:18 PM EDT
So true - we want Ss to be able to show what they know!
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https://t.co/5TES1zMolh
docvs1
May 2 @ 8:15 PM EDT
@tweetjre
so then they don't turn in a couple of assignments & zeros skew or have to not count/hold accountable
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perryafinch
May 2 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Agree. Rarely R they as consistent as we hope, worse yet can devalue the purpose of school...learning.
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https://t.co/KQCw8uQ9Mr
docvs1
May 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A2: for me grades R frustrating.Don't show learning,pressure to pass Ss, Don't mean same thing in all classes.Status symbol 4 P
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duncnteach
May 2 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Tough one. It depends if teachers are doing corrections or retakes, or just giving a grade and moving on.
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https://t.co/Wn6BKAoiJc
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Q3: Does an “average” over the semester or quarter show student growth and improvement over time?
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nyrangerfan42
May 2 @ 8:18 PM EDT
a3: Here is my opinion on averaging, blog style:
https://t.co/26gNilUOeB
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https://t.co/olmYQzs5DN
linnea_peters
May 2 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@duncnteach
very true. It all depends on the teacher
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duncnteach
May 2 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@GarnerRockstars
@PaulSolarz
one of our SOLs is about following instructions! Isn't that work habits vs mastery of content?
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nyrangerfan42
May 2 @ 8:19 PM EDT
a3: This... this is my soapbox. averaging should go the way of mimeographs and 8mm film projectors
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tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@PMahachek
@KimberlyOnak1
@FLRichter
Standards -are they met? Mastery is an easier target for the kids if they have a target.
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tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:20 PM EDT
Q4: What are some drawbacks associated with the more traditional grading approaches?
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tishrich
May 2 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A3: No, it is not a true measure of what they have learned at the end of the learning quarter or semester.
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Peebles142
May 2 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A3 completely agree with
@PaulSolarz
Portfolios, Goals, and Reflections drive student assessment+growth
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https://t.co/dVybve0Kw9
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A3: It's not always easy to show growth/improvement with grades, but easier to do with ePortfolios, Goal Setting, Self-Assessment.
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pjcerullo
May 2 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A3: I think it shows more on accountability, effort, and participation; not really improvement or an average.
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pensivechatter
May 2 @ 8:20 PM EDT
Q3: You can't typically compare Q1 to Q2 to Q3 etc. Within the quarter, I'm not sure how an average would show growth
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mrskochheiser
May 2 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A3) I don't believe "average" shows growth & improvement; a low score on one test can drop an entire average & misrepresent Ss
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docvs1
May 2 @ 8:21 PM EDT
A3: grades send message, it's done, S don't continue to grow.
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staceyreeder
May 2 @ 8:21 PM EDT
A3: S work portfolios = evidence of growth; consistency is represented with artifacts; averaged grades beg for proof of learning
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tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:21 PM EDT
A4: Averages do not show a current picture of Ss knowledge, skill and understanding. Makes learning from failure painful!
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nyrangerfan42
May 2 @ 8:22 PM EDT
@mrskochheiser
no other institution gives averages. DMV won't average your DL scores, SATs aren't averaged
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GarnerRockstars
May 2 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A3: "Mastery of objectives do not show growth, it shows I know it or I don't" So grades do NOT show growth, but mastery.
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tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:22 PM EDT
LOVE, love, love the great chatter tonight! You are awesome!
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linnea_peters
May 2 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A4: Ss are put against each other in the traditional grading approaches. They also aren't interested in learning anymore
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pjcerullo
May 2 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A4: The traditional app is greatly effected by outlying grades. They also do not generally show improvement or success over time.
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PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A4: Some straight-A Ss can slack and still earn straight-A's & some low grade Ss can't earn A's no matter how hard they try.
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duncnteach
May 2 @ 8:22 PM EDT
The 100 pt grading scale-too large of a gap between the F and the D (0% and 60%).
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https://t.co/I7I9LcyHHj
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:20 PM EDT
Q4: What are some drawbacks associated with the more traditional grading approaches?
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FLRichter
May 2 @ 8:23 PM EDT
@tweetjre
@PMahachek
@KimberlyOnak1
Ss are motivated by various reasons; grading is based on an old model;Q1 was "why grade"
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tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:23 PM EDT
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https://t.co/IznQCvtBtB
perryafinch
May 2 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A2: I hope we R comparing Ss 2 themselves based on standards. 2 often not the case. Measuring growth & not comparing to other Ss.
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KaizenaHQ
May 2 @ 8:23 PM EDT
@mrskochheiser
Yes! Very hard to reflect & grow when the only feedback is "right" or "wrong"
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docvs1
May 2 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A4: We have been listing them. kills growth mindset. arguments over getting more points 4 grade sake. not true measure of learning
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mrskochheiser
May 2 @ 8:23 PM EDT
@nyrangerfan42
Exactly!! Not to mention Ts who add participation points and other "grades" that influence scores
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Peebles142
May 2 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A4 averages ignore the reality that process is more important than product. Nuance is easily ignored in traditional grading
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LitcoachLaurie
May 2 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A4:the math behind grades is scary in most online grading programs. 5 point assignment, give S a 4/5 records as a B- did T mean it?
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tishrich
May 2 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A4: Traditional grading is an accumulation of pts. Not true measure of Ss mastery of the learning targets.
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tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A4: SAT, ACT, etc.... Can be retaken over again for a better outcome. Life is a redo to - pick up and try again -Not an average.
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KimberlyOnak1
May 2 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A4: Biggest draw back is the finality of the grade (report cards) & the expectation that all Ss are ready on same day/time
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docvs1
May 2 @ 8:24 PM EDT
@tweetjre
you picked a hot topic
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tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:25 PM EDT
Heartbreaking in so many ways!
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https://t.co/v9v2cXjrYX
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A4: Some straight-A Ss can slack and still earn straight-A's & some low grade Ss can't earn A's no matter how hard they try.
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PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A4 - When Ss focus on grades, they play the "game of school" but neglect to help their peers & can't always apply their skills.
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mrskochheiser
May 2 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A4) More drawbacks of traditional grading than benefits, especially since they don't always portray Ss mastery of learning strands
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nyrangerfan42
May 2 @ 8:25 PM EDT
@mrskochheiser
I've never understood how 'bringing in tissues' can help improve my knowledge of 2-step equations
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#DownWithEC
LitcoachLaurie
May 2 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A4: a grade kills an assignment whereas thoughtful feedback nurtures it
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LizCrabtree
May 2 @ 8:26 PM EDT
q4: In traditional 100 point scales, an average is 80. To many Ss that's failing. Why are Ss afraid to fail?
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tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:26 PM EDT
So true!!!
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https://t.co/lCEa7CDHux
nyrangerfan42
May 2 @ 8:25 PM EDT
@mrskochheiser
I've never understood how 'bringing in tissues' can help improve my knowledge of 2-step equations
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#DownWithEC
staceyreeder
May 2 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A4: Grades are an endgame & promote fixed mindset; growth mindsets are built on cycle of work, feedback, adjustment = process
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FLRichter
May 2 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A4 drawback-you are grading according to what?How were they assessed?Did the T do a test analysis?Did it favor a learning style?
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salaughs
May 2 @ 8:26 PM EDT
These questions and answers point towards a needs standards-based grading (IMHO).
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pjcerullo
May 2 @ 8:26 PM EDT
@LitcoachLaurie
You're so right. A check is recorded as a 65!
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perryafinch
May 2 @ 8:26 PM EDT
So true.Even effort AND knowledge muddies the data. Has to be free of all of the social/behavior pitfalls.
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https://t.co/tJCcQEutVY
LizCrabtree
May 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Q2: Sometimes grades measure effort, not knowledge.
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KimberlyOnak1
May 2 @ 8:26 PM EDT
@LitcoachLaurie
Well said! Nurture means growth!
#LearnLAP
mrskochheiser
May 2 @ 8:26 PM EDT
@nyrangerfan42
I'm laughing now --my son used to beg me to get Kleenex for extra points in certain classes and I was in disbelief
#LearnLAP
LitcoachLaurie
May 2 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A4: good handwriting= A, crappy handwriting like my son = D
#LearnLAP
nyrangerfan42
May 2 @ 8:26 PM EDT
@LizCrabtree
when most of your class "fails", you have to wonder where the problem really might be
#LearnLAP
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:27 PM EDT
@LizCrabtree
Because they want and are expected to get the "A" - average isn't okay... how about just be the best you can be?
#LearnLAP
duncnteach
May 2 @ 8:27 PM EDT
A4: how about what role parents play in Ss response to traditional grading? Only focused on grade not on learning,in many cases.
#LearnLAP
duncnteach
May 2 @ 8:28 PM EDT
@LitcoachLaurie
tell his teachers to learn how to decipher or put the poor kid on a computer/tablet!
#LearnLAP
Peebles142
May 2 @ 8:28 PM EDT
In student-led classrooms, the application of knowledge+teaching out to our classmates are integral to a collaborative environment
#LearnLAP
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:28 PM EDT
@LitcoachLaurie
My daughter got a D because she used cute scrapbook lettering in her ND scrapbook and not cursive - sad!
#LearnLAP
KimberlyOnak1
May 2 @ 8:28 PM EDT
@nyrangerfan42
@LizCrabtree
Yes! Let's not forget the importance of self-reflection as an educator.
#LearnLAP
nyrangerfan42
May 2 @ 8:28 PM EDT
@tweetjre
@LitcoachLaurie
my daughter lost points off of a project b/c she didn't number her pages in the right spot
#learnlap
#WhatStandard
FLRichter
May 2 @ 8:29 PM EDT
Parents are comfortable with grades; to move away from grades requires educating all stakeholders parents/students/faculty/admin
#LearnLAP
GarnerRockstars
May 2 @ 8:29 PM EDT
A4: Ask your Ss would they rather learn skills they will use for life, or skills to make an A on the next test.
#LearnLAP
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:29 PM EDT
A4: We work together to succeed in my class - move toward mastery at your pace and we support each other. Failure is good!
#LearnLAP
salaughs
May 2 @ 8:29 PM EDT
These questions and answers seem to support the need for standards-based grading which shows growth/mastery over time.
#LearnLAP
docvs1
May 2 @ 8:30 PM EDT
@KimberlyOnak1
@nyrangerfan42
@LizCrabtree
my co-teacher & I were discussing this topic today
#learnlap
duncnteach
May 2 @ 8:30 PM EDT
@nyrangerfan42
@tweetjre
@LitcoachLaurie
work habits, not learning and mastery! 😡😱
#LearnLAP
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:30 PM EDT
@FLRichter
But I say we need to do it! My students' parents have been 100% supportive of our No-Grades Classroom! Feedback>Grades!
#LearnLAP
mrskochheiser
May 2 @ 8:30 PM EDT
@nyrangerfan42
@tweetjre
@LitcoachLaurie
We must
#stopthemadness
and insist that we can do better--what are we teaching?!
#LearnLAP
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:30 PM EDT
I recommend watching "Most Likely to Succeed" makes you question our traditional system and the Ss we are creating.
#LearnLAP
docvs1
May 2 @ 8:30 PM EDT
@FLRichter
got that right, probably biggest barrier
#learnlap
LitcoachLaurie
May 2 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A4: I'm a total hypocrite because I love for my kids to get A's. I suck.
#LearnLAP
GarnerRockstars
May 2 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@tweetjre
YES! I love it!
#LearnLAP
LizCrabtree
May 2 @ 8:31 PM EDT
I try to connect learning goals to real life applications.
#personalfinace
#LearnLAP
nyrangerfan42
May 2 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@LitcoachLaurie
I EXPECT all of my students to get As
#LearnLAP
KaizenaHQ
May 2 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@FLRichter
Yep, and what a process that is...
#OneDay
#SlowlyButSurely
#LearnLAP
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@PaulSolarz
@FLRichter
We are standard's based in my room - Ps are totally on board!
#LearnLAP
KRScienceLady
May 2 @ 8:31 PM EDT
In VT we are switching to proficiency based learning and grad requirements
#LearnLAP
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@LitcoachLaurie
LOL - It's fun to earn A's! But we need to evaluate what they mean & if they're helping or hurting learning (IMO)!
#LearnLAP
pensivechatter
May 2 @ 8:32 PM EDT
@LitcoachLaurie
We've all been well conditioned! Habits are hard to break.
#LearnLAP
mrskochheiser
May 2 @ 8:32 PM EDT
@LitcoachLaurie
Because that says they played the game of school well..it is what we are used to; it's the school trophy right now
#LearnLAP
ejuc8or
May 2 @ 8:32 PM EDT
A4) Feedback is limited to how well students consume/comply; not how well they develop/progress.
#learnlap
@tweetjre
FLRichter
May 2 @ 8:33 PM EDT
@docvs1
trying to move from status quo-change is scary for some; especially in secondary Ed where college competition is high
#learnlap
duncnteach
May 2 @ 8:33 PM EDT
@tweetjre
@PaulSolarz
@FLRichter
I'm on a grading and reporting focus group for our SD & we are having the standards based debate
#LearnLAP
KRScienceLady
May 2 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Now we have to figure out what proficiency looks like compared 2 the standards & begin HUGE PR campaign
#LearnLAP
mgrosstaylor
May 2 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Join me 4 Free webinar:Leveraging Social Media in MS.
https://t.co/OBnOna0OOY
#LearnLAP
#SocialLeader
#KidsDeserveIt
https://t.co/RD8jQiH6ek
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:33 PM EDT
@LitcoachLaurie
U crack me up! We all want our kids to soar - and ace it!! Love your passion for kids!
#LearnLAP
Peebles142
May 2 @ 8:33 PM EDT
A4 allowing Ss choice in how they demonstrate their learning has allowed Ss in my class to apply their skills in multiple ways
#learnlap
staceyreeder
May 2 @ 8:34 PM EDT
HOW do we explain to Ps what we know is true? Feedback > grades! Do they just have to see it in action and believe?
#LearnLAP
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:35 PM EDT
#LearnLAP
Video about grading with Rick Wormeli for later viewing:
https://t.co/1NYWPyHL7M
mrskochheiser
May 2 @ 8:35 PM EDT
@KRScienceLady
It is a process of re-educating Public thinks we don't want grades b/c then Ts won't be accountable Need clarity
#LearnLAP
KRScienceLady
May 2 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Great question. I think that is one we all should collaborate around. Develop materials etc
#LearnLAP
https://t.co/q6UTOZi4p4
staceyreeder
May 2 @ 8:34 PM EDT
HOW do we explain to Ps what we know is true? Feedback > grades! Do they just have to see it in action and believe?
#LearnLAP
GarnerRockstars
May 2 @ 8:35 PM EDT
@staceyreeder
We start in Elementary, and allow for the Ps to see it in action.
#LearnLAP
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:35 PM EDT
I wanna teach with you!!!
#LearnLAP
https://t.co/PSEBTqwIA8
Peebles142
May 2 @ 8:33 PM EDT
A4 allowing Ss choice in how they demonstrate their learning has allowed Ss in my class to apply their skills in multiple ways
#learnlap
perryafinch
May 2 @ 8:35 PM EDT
A4: Trad. grades are limited in value, arbitrary, inconsistent, unfair, motivation killers, collaboration destroyers, overrated.
#learnlap
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:35 PM EDT
@staceyreeder
I talk to Ps about it at Parent Night, give them a copy of "Learn Like a PIRATE" & point out why I made the change.
#LearnLAP
FLRichter
May 2 @ 8:35 PM EDT
@PaulSolarz
I'm not for grades but uncertain about alternatives; colleges have requirements and use scores/grades etc to ID Ss
#learnlap
KimberlyOnak1
May 2 @ 8:36 PM EDT
@tweetjre
You beat me to it! Love this video! SO powerful--the power of zeros!
#LearnLAP
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Q5: What is standards-based grading?
#LearnLAP
duncnteach
May 2 @ 8:37 PM EDT
@staceyreeder
it's too engrained and change is hard. Some schools do it and tell the Ps to deal w/it.
#LearnLAP
tishrich
May 2 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Our District is in 3rd year of SBG. So imp. to give adequate training to Ts before implementing. Huge learning curve for all!
#learnlap
StefaniePitzer
May 2 @ 8:37 PM EDT
@staceyreeder
Ps almost need to see it in action or compared to something! I love to compare it to baking.
#LearnLAP
https://t.co/tsBii0M6Dx
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:37 PM EDT
@FLRichter
I understand! High School is different from 5th grade. Let me know when u figure it all out Sean! I'll do the same! ;)
#LearnLAP
duncnteach
May 2 @ 8:37 PM EDT
@staceyreeder
other districts, parents have too much power.
#LearnLAP
staceyreeder
May 2 @ 8:38 PM EDT
@PaulSolarz
, do others you teach beside share your methods? It's the contrasts in ideas that confuse Ps from what I see
#LearnLAP
mrskochheiser
May 2 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Parents as we do away with grades may be like good old Ricky to funny Lucy...
#LearnLAP
https://t.co/BbEdU3BPj8
docvs1
May 2 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A5: grades that are based on mastery of stds
#learnlap
Haven't quite figured out implementation yet.
pjcerullo
May 2 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A5: I'm not entirely sure. I've heard different things.
#LearnLAP
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:38 PM EDT
@FLRichter
@PaulSolarz
Colleges have created conversion scales for schools that use standard's based reporting.
#LearnLAP
pjcerullo
May 2 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A5: I'm hoping to find out!
#LearnLAP
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:39 PM EDT
#LearnLAP
Two more great articles:
https://t.co/sfqAF5Gszf
and
https://t.co/qk5X55dCGB
duncnteach
May 2 @ 8:39 PM EDT
@PMahachek
@tweetjre
@PaulSolarz
@FLRichter
many Ts in my district are against it! Tough time seeing there needs to be a change!
#LearnLAP
StefaniePitzer
May 2 @ 8:39 PM EDT
@tishrich
agreed! We also offered parent workshops before parent's club/PTO meetings to help them understand
#LearnLAP
nyrangerfan42
May 2 @ 8:39 PM EDT
a5: Our online management system has an option for a Standards based report card. so nice!
#LearnLAP
KRScienceLady
May 2 @ 8:39 PM EDT
Colleges accepting prof based learning 4 years.I think we prject expectations. Dartmth college prof talkd
#LearnLAP
https://t.co/4hAmZuL3uK
FLRichter
May 2 @ 8:35 PM EDT
@PaulSolarz
I'm not for grades but uncertain about alternatives; colleges have requirements and use scores/grades etc to ID Ss
#learnlap
mrskochheiser
May 2 @ 8:40 PM EDT
A5) Standards-based grading takes the standard and measures it over many learning points/assessments; isolates it w/in assessment
#LearnLAP
KatieJMcNamara
May 2 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Traditional grades have Ss figuring out what they don't have to do and still pass.
#LearnLAP
pjcerullo
May 2 @ 8:40 PM EDT
@nyrangerfan42
What program?
#learnlap
StefaniePitzer
May 2 @ 8:40 PM EDT
A5: I just posted this but this is one of my favorite explanations of standards-based grading
#LearnLAP
https://t.co/PKctVsEU1M
tishrich
May 2 @ 8:41 PM EDT
@StefaniePitzer
Yes, it was a major transition for Ts, Ps, & Ss! Completely shift in mindset about grades.
#learnlap
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:41 PM EDT
#LearnLAP
https://t.co/gmj0VCgDV1
FLRichter
May 2 @ 8:41 PM EDT
Like
@SirKenRobinson
, I feel the key as educators is finding how Ss work best
https://t.co/YkwT55N6NH
#LearnLAP
linnea_peters
May 2 @ 8:41 PM EDT
A5: it is when there is a set standard that the students are compared to. This is different from Ss being compared to each other
#LearnLAP
duncnteach
May 2 @ 8:41 PM EDT
A5: isn't it the standards we r teaching in a unit/lesson, & we assess how well the kids have learned or applied those skills???
#LearnLAP
staceyreeder
May 2 @ 8:41 PM EDT
A5: SBG works when Ss understand standards goals and work on a chosen path to provide evidence of what they know & can do
#LearnLAP
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A5: Standards-based grading, involves measuring students' proficiency on well-defined course objectives.
#LearnLAP
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Q6: What is the purpose of standards-based grading?
#learnlap
nyrangerfan42
May 2 @ 8:42 PM EDT
@pjcerullo
haiku learning
#LearnLAP
mrskochheiser
May 2 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Q6) If a student struggles with a standard; remediation and interventions can be designed specifically for that one focus
#LearnLAP
FLRichter
May 2 @ 8:43 PM EDT
@PaulSolarz
@tweetjre
can yes--question is will they? What will motivate the people in control make a systemic change?
#learnlap
docvs1
May 2 @ 8:43 PM EDT
AC guy has arrived. almost 9pm and 95 in the house.
#learnlap
perryafinch
May 2 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A5: SBG 2 me is S feedback based on learnstandards, giving multiple data pts per subject, reporting learning skills separate.
#learnlap
AbigailESpicher
May 2 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A4: Students can get caught up in getting a good grade & they won't learn the material, they'll memorize it for the test&forget it
#LearnLAP
nyrangerfan42
May 2 @ 8:43 PM EDT
a6: CLEAR communication. getting an 82%in 'algebra' says nothing. getting a 3 of 4 on 'can solve 2-step equations' says lots more
#LearnLAP
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A Video with Robert Marzano:
https://t.co/yzibsF9mth
#LearnLAP
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:44 PM EDT
#LearnLAP
https://t.co/lG3Ixkw5SI
KRScienceLady
May 2 @ 8:44 PM EDT
In SBG, students should have opportunity to go back and revise as many times as necessary
#LearnLAP
Will take lots of practice 4 Ts & Ss
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Such great discussion! A6: SBG is meant to measure a Ss growth toward mastery of the content at a given time, feedback for growth.
#LearnLAP
KimberlyOnak1
May 2 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A6: Purpose is to give feedback to Ss along the way to mastery & to allow for intervention, reteaching, differentiation as needed
#LearnLAP
duncnteach
May 2 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@docvs1
at least it's not your classroom with 30 kids! 😱😱😱 hug the AC man!
#LearnLap
LitcoachLaurie
May 2 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A5: students are helped to reach standards. In traditional grading they are punished.
#LearnLAP
PMahachek
May 2 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Q6: The purpose should be to show students more clearly what they have mastered.
#learnlap
KatieJMcNamara
May 2 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Standards-based grading should take away the stress of an A or 0 and focus on progress. <3 need it, got it, own it.
#LearnLAP
docvs1
May 2 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A6: purpose SBG is to show how much of stds are mastered, not assignments completed
#learnlap
mrskochheiser
May 2 @ 8:45 PM EDT
@AbigailESpicher
Exactly; My pet peeve "What do I need to do to get an A?" "How many sentences?"
#LearnLAP
i3algebra
May 2 @ 8:45 PM EDT
Join us in 15 minutes for
#tlap
! That means you
#learnlap
people!
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thedevineone
May 2 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A6 Gives kids more ownership over their learning. Takes mystery out of what they need to take away from lesson.
#LearnLAP
linnea_peters
May 2 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A6: To make sure all students are at the same level around the U.S. If there were no standards, no one would be held accountable
#learnlap
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:45 PM EDT
Q7 How does standards-based grading differ from more conventional grading approaches?
#LearnLAP
tishrich
May 2 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A5: SBG is measuring Ss level of proficiency towards mastery of learning target Opp for reassessment and growth.
#learnlap
perryafinch
May 2 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A6: SBG purpose: reporting academic & learning skill feedback of S's strengths & areas of growth. Benefits developing & secure Ss.
#learnlap
tishrich
May 2 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A6: allows for growth; learning is not final. Grades are based on understanding of targets, not tied to behavior.
#learnlap
docvs1
May 2 @ 8:46 PM EDT
@duncnteach
there have been those days too, but I still love Florida, I don't like cold and most days are great
#learnlap
linnea_peters
May 2 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A7: Other approaches put students' against themselves or against other kids their age
#learnlap
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:47 PM EDT
#LearnLAP
Article with video:
https://t.co/KbvmaBMX2M
https://t.co/CvzairGnuo
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A7: It is the last recorded attempt at mastery. Not an average of attempts over time (including failures)
#LearnLAP
duncnteach
May 2 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A6: allow for students to see their strengths and weaknesses and improve the weaknesses thru remediation.
#LearnLap
https://t.co/yLQSaE30W7
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Q6: What is the purpose of standards-based grading?
#learnlap
FLRichter
May 2 @ 8:47 PM EDT
a former HS counselor-Ss from other state lack skills b/c of diff requirements;giving Ss from some state an adv applying 2 college
#learnlap
tishrich
May 2 @ 8:47 PM EDT
well stated!
#learnlap
https://t.co/EJDOYVaUyx
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A7: It is the last recorded attempt at mastery. Not an average of attempts over time (including failures)
#LearnLAP
burgess_shelley
May 2 @ 8:47 PM EDT
You won't want to miss this one!! Bring a date!!
#tlap
#LeadLAP
#LearnLAP
https://t.co/P2zn0QgY96
i3algebra
May 2 @ 8:45 PM EDT
Join us in 15 minutes for
#tlap
! That means you
#learnlap
people!
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tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:48 PM EDT
Loving the discussion and trying to keep up. Love the thought that comes from this group! 4Cs at its best!
#LearnLAP
PMahachek
May 2 @ 8:48 PM EDT
Q7 I feel SBG is much more specific, and you can have more than one standard evaluated in an assignment.
#learnlap
Peebles142
May 2 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A7 SBG allows Ss to demonstrate understanding of standards in isolation
#learnlap
perryafinch
May 2 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A7: SBG gives a fuller learning picture to Ss & Ps allowing Ss 2 celebrate successes & concentrate on weaknesses. Colleges too!
#learnlap
docvs1
May 2 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A7: pushes the need 4 S to improve their work rather than fill in the boxes w/whatever & be done
#learnlap
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:49 PM EDT
Q8 What are the advantages to standard’s based grading and adjustments needed when moving from a more traditional approach?
#learnlap
duncnteach
May 2 @ 8:49 PM EDT
A7: SBG focuses specifically on what Ss have learned-separates work habits from learning.
#LearnLap
https://t.co/ZToBNkiwou
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:45 PM EDT
Q7 How does standards-based grading differ from more conventional grading approaches?
#LearnLAP
FLRichter
May 2 @ 8:50 PM EDT
@PaulSolarz
@tweetjre
you must work within your system to change; work towards a common goal;get elem buyin then middle then high
#learnlap
Peebles142
May 2 @ 8:50 PM EDT
A7 conventional grading scores a student on each attempt at assessment, not on "final attempt"
#LearnLAP
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:51 PM EDT
Q9 What are some additional considerations or shifts in thinking Ts must take into account if grading becomes standards-based?
#learnlap
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:51 PM EDT
#LearnLAP
One more article:
https://t.co/T7EWephD83
https://t.co/UuNw1qtaii
docvs1
May 2 @ 8:51 PM EDT
A8: definitely have to have it worked out, get stakeholders on board. Advantage:growth mindset, reflection, improvement
#learnlap
FLRichter
May 2 @ 8:51 PM EDT
Sorry I need to go read to my son; thank you for the chat tonight
#learnlap
linnea_peters
May 2 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A8: Advantage - helps students reflect. Adjustments - some students just can't reach the standards no matter how hard they try
#learnlap
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Q8 and Q9: Some districts need discussion, some need a model. Certainly valuable to seek out successes and research.
#LearnLAP
pensivechatter
May 2 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Being honest - I love the idea of SBG, but it feels overwhelming. Especially to start if rest of school uses standard grades
#LearnLAP
duncnteach
May 2 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A9:Ts need to be comfortable w/how it works w/in how their classrooms work. More knowledge leads to doing.
#LearnLap
https://t.co/yatjrXLpMr
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:51 PM EDT
Q9 What are some additional considerations or shifts in thinking Ts must take into account if grading becomes standards-based?
#learnlap
mrskochheiser
May 2 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A8) Advantages=moving closer to central target w/Ss understanding what the target is; ensure assessment matches standards per ques
#LearnLAP
Peebles142
May 2 @ 8:53 PM EDT
Transitioning to SBG requires informing Ss what is necessary to demonstrate understanding of standards addressed+ways2achieve it
#LearnLAP
duncnteach
May 2 @ 8:54 PM EDT
@tweetjre
our district is having that discussion now. Very heated topic.
#LearnLap
docvs1
May 2 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A9:coworkers, & other stakeholders buy in is huge. How to actually implement effectively.
#learnlap
staceyreeder
May 2 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A8: SBG promotes sustained S effort & grit toward learning goals; learning is a process, not destination = shift
#LearnLAP
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A8/ 9a: I think our Ss are worth the discussion and risk. We are preparing them for a world that requires redo/and constant
#LearnLAP
perryafinch
May 2 @ 8:55 PM EDT
A9: Huge fan of
@TomSchimmer
's SBmindset. Ts need 2 clean up grading practices 1st. Symbols are secondary to assessment literacy.
#learnlap
tishrich
May 2 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Q9: keep behavior out of grades, allow for retakes, formatives are practice towards summative shouldnt be factored into grade.
#learnlap
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:56 PM EDT
A8/9b: learning and relearning - ever changing. We no longer prepare assembly line workers that need to fill in the right box.
#LearnLAP
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:57 PM EDT
Thanks for the great chat,
#LearnLAP
I love this PLN, and you are great agents of change for awesome learning!
https://t.co/PkGbkrCfQr
PaulSolarz
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:57 PM EDT
What an amazing job by
@tweetjre
moderating
#LearnLAP
tonight! Thank you! Please consider jumping over to
#tlap
for more great discussion!
staceyreeder
May 2 @ 8:57 PM EDT
Q9: Ts must allow Ss to become the owners of the learning and the holders of standards mastery evidence; major P mindset shift
#LearnLAP
tishrich
May 2 @ 8:57 PM EDT
Thanks for a great chat! Good night everyone!
#learnlap
linnea_peters
May 2 @ 8:57 PM EDT
#learnlap
Thanks so much for such an amazing chat
@tweetjre
!
StefaniePitzer
May 2 @ 8:58 PM EDT
What a wonderful chat! Thanks
@tweetjre
for hosting!
#learnlap
Peebles142
May 2 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Thanks
@tweetjre
fantastic chat tonight!
#LearnLAP
docvs1
May 2 @ 8:59 PM EDT
@tweetjre
thanks for a great chat
#learnlap
tweetjre
May 2 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Thanks PLN!!!
#LearnLAP
KimberlyOnak1
May 2 @ 8:59 PM EDT
The hour flew by! Thanks for sharing so many great resources too!
@tweetjre
#learnlap
PMahachek
May 2 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Thanks everyone, great conversation!
#learnlap
staceyreeder
May 2 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Thanks, PLN and
@tweetjre
#LearnLAP
gal_smiley
May 2 @ 9:00 PM EDT
#learnlap
When is the next chat? Can anyone join?