#ukedchat Archive
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Thursday December 22, 2016
3:00 PM EST
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Dec 22 @ 3:00 PM EST
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ukedchat
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Dec 22 @ 3:01 PM EST
It's 8pm. Good eve and welcome to the final
#UKEdChat
of 2016. This week focusing on *Barriers to motivation* - 6 questions coming up...
ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:01 PM EST
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Q1. What barriers to motivation exist in your own school for: (a) teachers, and (b) pupils?
UKEdSch
Dec 22 @ 3:02 PM EST
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A1. (a) stagnation and disillusionment (b) outside influences.
ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:01 PM EST
#UKEdChat
Q1. What barriers to motivation exist in your own school for: (a) teachers, and (b) pupils?
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Dec 22 @ 3:02 PM EST
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Dec 22 @ 3:02 PM EST
An appalling act of
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#students
Tuition fee rise 'sneaked out'
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Dec 22 @ 3:03 PM EST
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_theteachr
Dec 22 @ 3:04 PM EST
A1 - might just be intrinsic barriers, imposed by attitude?
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Dec 22 @ 3:05 PM EST
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ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:05 PM EST
#UKEdChat
Q1. What barriers to motivation exist in your own school for: (a) teachers, and (b) pupils?
ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:05 PM EST
Absolutely. For teachers , pupils or both?
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In reply to @_theteachr
GilchristGeorge
Dec 22 @ 3:05 PM EST
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A1 a) political interference and lack of trust (b peer pressure as they get older
_theteachr
Dec 22 @ 3:06 PM EST
#Ukedchat
A1 sometimes motivation has to come from within - although someone might be needed to help you find it...
dazmileham
Dec 22 @ 3:08 PM EST
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Q1 communication between SLT and staff
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ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:08 PM EST
So family life and other outside (school) influences can play a major role.
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Dec 22 @ 3:09 PM EST
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ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:09 PM EST
You're a leader. How can you protect staff from this, if it's a true barrier?
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Dec 22 @ 3:09 PM EST
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ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:10 PM EST
#UKEdChat
Understood. What are the greatest challenges there? A lack of communication?
In reply to @dazmileham
SnakeyChalmers
Dec 22 @ 3:10 PM EST
To flip it, Headteachers have responsibility to remove constraints of curriculum to allow any barriers to be overcome
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basnettj
Dec 22 @ 3:10 PM EST
A1 a) lack of ability by SLT to understand the job we do
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ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:11 PM EST
#UKEdChat
- Q2. Is there a group of students, in your experience, who seem more difficult to motivate? How do you manage this?
dazmileham
Dec 22 @ 3:11 PM EST
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absolute lack of communication, staff left bewildered and lacking focus
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ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:11 PM EST
Yes
#UKEdChat
although this can be challenging in the accountability culture education is now facing?
In reply to @SnakeyChalmers
basnettj
Dec 22 @ 3:11 PM EST
#ukedchat
lack of trust. So true. A1
GilchristGeorge
Dec 22 @ 3:05 PM EST
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A1 a) political interference and lack of trust (b peer pressure as they get older
ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:11 PM EST
Scary
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dazmileham
Dec 22 @ 3:11 PM EST
#UKEdChat
absolute lack of communication, staff left bewildered and lacking focus
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basnettj
Dec 22 @ 3:12 PM EST
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A1 yes but if what comes from within is quashed then you need more energy.
In reply to @_theteachr
ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:12 PM EST
#UKEdChat
School can be escape for many (pupils and/or teachers), so could be a positive experience? Still prays on the mind though.
_theteachr
Dec 22 @ 3:11 PM EST
yes, family, friends, all play a role, whether positive or negative.
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basnettj
Dec 22 @ 3:12 PM EST
spot on
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SnakeyChalmers
Dec 22 @ 3:12 PM EST
There's always room for creativity if you trust your staff to deliver. So I guess not trusting your staff is a barrier!
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ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:13 PM EST
Which comes from higher up? Politicians not trusting schools
#UKEdChat
Very top-down accountability system.
In reply to @SnakeyChalmers
_theteachr
Dec 22 @ 3:14 PM EST
#UKEdChat
don't like to blame SLT all the time...
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Dec 22 @ 3:14 PM EST
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UKEdSch
Dec 22 @ 3:15 PM EST
Can depend
#UKEdChat
Sometimes it’s a group of boys. Other times a group of girls. Sometimes, it’s just a mix of different influences.
ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:11 PM EST
#UKEdChat
- Q2. Is there a group of students, in your experience, who seem more difficult to motivate? How do you manage this?
basnettj
Dec 22 @ 3:15 PM EST
agreed. And I do always take positive approach.
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In reply to @_theteachr
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Dec 22 @ 3:15 PM EST
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Dec 22 @ 3:15 PM EST
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SnakeyChalmers
Dec 22 @ 3:15 PM EST
True but I would not work in a school where accountability from those higher up restricted the learning
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ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:16 PM EST
ML = Middle Leaders?
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SnakeyChalmers
Dec 22 @ 3:16 PM EST
There is a lot of trust given to ML at my school. That's why I love working there!
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ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:17 PM EST
Sadly, that's what the education system appears to be doing
#UKEdChat
Precisely that!
In reply to @SnakeyChalmers
ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:17 PM EST
#UKEdChat
- Q2. Is there a group of students, in your experience, who seem more difficult to motivate? How do you manage this?
basnettj
Dec 22 @ 3:17 PM EST
well. It's more energy sapping if you're fighting against sthg.
#ukedchat
In reply to @_theteachr
SnakeyChalmers
Dec 22 @ 3:19 PM EST
Boys! We use sport to engage them
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dazmileham
Dec 22 @ 3:19 PM EST
#UKEdChat
Q2 those with a lack of parental involvement, hopefully they just need time with an adult giving encouragement
ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:20 PM EST
Boys in KS2 not motivated to learn? I find that very sad indeed 😧
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Dec 22 @ 3:20 PM EST
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Dec 22 @ 3:20 PM EST
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ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:21 PM EST
#UKEdChat
- Q3. Is motivation for school and home life interlinked?
ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:21 PM EST
Absolutely. The more positive the better
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In reply to @dazmileham
SnakeyChalmers
Dec 22 @ 3:22 PM EST
Boys can be harder to motivate. There are different ways to engage them though. Boy-friendly topics and sport!
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ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:22 PM EST
And positive male role models to hand?
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In reply to @SnakeyChalmers
SnakeyChalmers
Dec 22 @ 3:24 PM EST
Maybe there is a link between results and catchment area ;)
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ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:25 PM EST
#UKEdChat
SnakeyChalmers
Dec 22 @ 3:24 PM EST
Yes I think so.
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SnakeyChalmers
Dec 22 @ 3:25 PM EST
Interesting that most of our young sports leaders are girls as boys want to play football at lunchtimes!
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Actionjackson
Dec 22 @ 3:27 PM EST
Favourite for later ❤️- Motivating boys
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Nov 24 @ 9:25 PM EST
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ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:28 PM EST
#UKEdChat
GilchristGeorge
Dec 22 @ 3:28 PM EST
by saying no and being values driven
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Actionjackson
Dec 22 @ 3:29 PM EST
Children get validation from home and express it at school. Home life strongly affects school performance
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ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:30 PM EST
A very deep, profound and true tweet there Jackson
#UKEdChat
You’re spot on though
Actionjackson
Dec 22 @ 3:29 PM EST
Children get validation from home and express it at school. Home life strongly affects school performance
@ukedchat
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Stephen_Logan
Dec 22 @ 3:30 PM EST
.
@ukedchat
@GilchristGeorge
by having values a moral purpose. Tweeted this earlier today
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Stephen_Logan
Dec 22 @ 4:50 AM EST
Our values decide our character. Our character decides our value via James Kerr
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ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:31 PM EST
#UKEdChat
- Q4. Are barriers to professional motivation mainly external, or within yourself?
SnakeyChalmers
Dec 22 @ 3:32 PM EST
Social expectations play a big part. Parents with low expectations pass this onto their children.
#ukedchat
In reply to @Actionjackson, @ukedchat
UKEdSch
Dec 22 @ 3:33 PM EST
A bit of both. Mainly use my family as the main reason of professional motivation, but some intrinsic factor must be at play
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ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:31 PM EST
#UKEdChat
- Q4. Are barriers to professional motivation mainly external, or within yourself?
ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:34 PM EST
It’s very difficult to break this cycle. Not impossible, but very difficult
#UKEdChat
SnakeyChalmers
Dec 22 @ 3:32 PM EST
Social expectations play a big part. Parents with low expectations pass this onto their children.
#ukedchat
In reply to @Actionjackson, @ukedchat
dazmileham
Dec 22 @ 3:34 PM EST
#UKEdChat
the only obstacle to self progress is self
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ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:35 PM EST
Very true
#UKEdChat
Do you also express that to students?
In reply to @dazmileham
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Dec 22 @ 3:35 PM EST
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SnakeyChalmers
Dec 22 @ 3:36 PM EST
It's too easy to complain. Some professionals complain too much!
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dazmileham
Dec 22 @ 3:36 PM EST
#UKEdChat
to some students, for others the pressure seems overwhelming
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AllThingsMaths
Dec 22 @ 3:37 PM EST
A4: some are self but many are external. It can become too difficult to strive to overcome the external barriers
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basnettj
Dec 22 @ 3:38 PM EST
absolutely. Negativity is poison. Leave it outside my dept!
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Dec 22 @ 3:39 PM EST
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GilchristGeorge
Dec 22 @ 3:39 PM EST
#UKEdChat
A4 can be both, but the most demotivational are external as they can wear down intrinsic motivation over time
ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:39 PM EST
Indeed. It’s difficult to walk in someone else’s shoes, and truly understand their life
#UKEdChat
In reply to @AllThingsMaths
ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:40 PM EST
#UKEdChat
Who are you calling a nut? 🤡
UKEd_Scotland
Dec 22 @ 3:40 PM EST
. its important to remember that there is more than one way to crack a nut...
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AllThingsMaths
Dec 22 @ 3:40 PM EST
and there are so many variables (subjects, location, sch type, catchment area) for us to always understand other's ext stressors
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ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:41 PM EST
#UKEdChat
- Q5. Does professional motivation require specific goals? What are yours?
AllThingsMaths
Dec 22 @ 3:43 PM EST
A5: yes.. but accept that we all may have different goals and motivations
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ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:44 PM EST
#UKEdChat
- Q5. Does professional motivation require specific goals? What are yours?
SnakeyChalmers
Dec 22 @ 3:44 PM EST
To continue to be my own teacher and have the support of the school. It works.
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_theteachr
Dec 22 @ 3:47 PM EST
to change the world! Odds are against me though...
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GilchristGeorge
Dec 22 @ 3:48 PM EST
#UKEdChat
A5 requires specific values that you live by your actions IMO
ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:50 PM EST
#UKEdChat
- Q6. What are your top tips for overcoming barriers to motivation?
SnakeyChalmers
Dec 22 @ 3:52 PM EST
Work in a school that puts the children first! A school that will be brave enough to trust in themselves and staff
#ukedchat
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ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:52 PM EST
#UKEdChat
UKEd_Scotland
Dec 22 @ 3:52 PM EST
... overall goal for happy confident polite children with daily goals of pencil grip, number bonds, sdjective use etc.
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ukedchat
- Moderator
Dec 22 @ 3:55 PM EST
Finally
#UKEdChat
- Q6. What are your top tips for overcoming barriers to motivation?
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Dec 22 @ 3:57 PM EST
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