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TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:00 PM EDT

Welcome to #NGSSchat. We’re so excited you’re joining us! Please remember to include #NGSSchat in your tweets!

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:00 PM EDT

Welcome to #NGSSchat. We’re so excited you’re joining us! Please remember to include #NGSSchat in your tweets!

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:01 PM EDT

Please start by introducing yourselves with your name,what you do, and where you’re from! #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:01 PM EDT

We’ll be following a Q1/A1 format. Please respond to the question asked with an “A” and the number. #NGSSchat

tjscience Aug 4 @ 9:02 PM EDT

What is this #NGSSchat and where are these word-people coming from?!?!?

Steph4Science Aug 4 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Stephanie from MA here- science curriculum consultant with @LabAids #NGSSchat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:02 PM EDT

@tjscience Hey TJ! #NGSSchat

mbarmstr Aug 4 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Mary Beth Armstrong from KY. I teach 8th grade science. #ngsschat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:02 PM EDT

@Steph4Science @LabAids Hey Stephanie! #NGSSchat

quincygirls1 Aug 4 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Shawn - 7th Grade - Quincy MI. NGSXing all week with @VogelWendi! #ngsschat

nlrhoades Aug 4 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Nicole Rhoades, 7th grade teacher, dept chair, Maryland #ngsschat

MsBolandSci Aug 4 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Cathy from Chicago here, ms science, NGSS nerd! Hello! #ngsschat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:03 PM EDT

@mbarmstr Hey Mary Beth. #NGSSchat

VogelWendi Aug 4 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Hi all! Wendi from MI. Hoping to have some new sci Ts joining/lurking to check us out 2night...#ngsschat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:03 PM EDT

@quincygirls1 Welcome, Shawn. #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Trish Shelton from KY excited to join #NGSSchat after spending the day talking upcoming Assessments in KY.

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:04 PM EDT

@nlrhoades Welcome, Nicole! #NGSSchat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:04 PM EDT

@MsBolandSci Hey Cathy! #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:04 PM EDT

:) #NGSSchat https://t.co/e5VdcUe3pO

tjscience Aug 4 @ 9:02 PM EDT

What is this #NGSSchat and where are these word-people coming from?!?!?

mbarmstr Aug 4 @ 9:04 PM EDT

@FredEnde Hello Fred.!#ngsschat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:04 PM EDT

@VogelWendi Good evening, Wendi! #NGSSchat

VogelWendi Aug 4 @ 9:04 PM EDT

@quincygirls1 We are spending a lot of time together lately! :) One more day in that packed room. #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:04 PM EDT

@mbarmstr Welcome Mary Beth #NGSSchat

philiplbell Aug 4 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Hi #ngsschat—Phil Bell here from U of WA in Seattle. Happy to be here for a bit—before heading out for a summer evening event. :)

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:05 PM EDT

@quincygirls1 Welcome Shawn! That sounds amazing-- NGSXing #NGSSchat

maryfazz Aug 4 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Mary from Wisconsin, 7th grade science teacher #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:05 PM EDT

@nlrhoades Welcome Nicole! #NGSSchat

misteraycock Aug 4 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Happy #ngss Thursday everyone! Brian from @sd129 here #NGSSchat

mbarmstr Aug 4 @ 9:05 PM EDT

@TdiShelton Hi Tricia! #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:05 PM EDT

@VogelWendi Welcome Wendi! Hope to see you Monday! #NGSSchat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:05 PM EDT

@philiplbell Hey Phil! #NGSSchat

tjscience Aug 4 @ 9:06 PM EDT

TJ from CT- been spending all day today planning for the maximum number of @NGSXproject study groups in CT (and how to study them) #NGSSchat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:06 PM EDT

@maryfazz Welcome, Mary! #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:06 PM EDT

@philiplbell Hi Phil-- great to see you! #NGSSchat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Fred Ende, Asst. Director of Curriculum, metro NYC. Happy to be with you all this evening! #NGSSchat

MDHJohnson Aug 4 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Good evening! Diane from KY. Have had great week working with MS sci tchrs - 1 more group tmrw.#ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:06 PM EDT

@maryfazz Welcome Mary! #NGSSchat

philiplbell Aug 4 @ 9:06 PM EDT

@FredEnde Hi Fred. I hope all has been well with you. #NGSSchat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:06 PM EDT

@MDHJohnson Hey Diane! #NGSSchat

rachelgeneve Aug 4 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Rachel Porter - Marketing Director @LabAids, former @ppsk12orus 6-8 teacher #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:06 PM EDT

@misteraycock @sd129 Welcome Brian! #NGSSchat

ksteves61811 Aug 4 @ 9:06 PM EDT

Hi everyone! Katie, 4th grade teacher from MI. I'll be in and out tonight. #ngsschat

VogelWendi Aug 4 @ 9:07 PM EDT

@TdiShelton Definately! I just meet @quincygirls1 Monday in person for the first time, and now you next week. Tweeps all over. :) #ngsschat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:07 PM EDT

@rachelgeneve @ppsk12orus Welcome, Rachel! Glad to have the @LabAids crew joining us tonight! #NGSSchat

mbarmstr Aug 4 @ 9:07 PM EDT

@MDHJohnson Hi Diane #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:07 PM EDT

@tjscience @NGSXproject Sounds amazing! #NGSSchat Thanks so much for sharing your expertise! #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:07 PM EDT

@tjscience @NGSXproject Sounds amazing! #NGSSchat Thanks so much for sharing your expertise! #NGSSchat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:07 PM EDT

@ksteves61811 Welcome, Katie! #NGSSchat

jhubb546 Aug 4 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Josh from MI just got in from KY through never ending OH construction #ngsschat

Mr_Espinos Aug 4 @ 9:07 PM EDT

@karlacalbear Oh no! I had no idea :( I tried to schedule around everything else sorry #ngsschat #NEASci

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:07 PM EDT

@jhubb546 Welcome, Josh! #NGSSchat

MDHJohnson Aug 4 @ 9:07 PM EDT

@mbarmstr Hey Mary Beth - ready for a new year? #ngsschat

philiplbell Aug 4 @ 9:07 PM EDT

@TdiShelton Hi Trish! Apologies for having been away from #NGSSchat for too long. I hope all is well.

Dora_AMNH Aug 4 @ 9:08 PM EDT

#ngsschat Dora here, from NYC. Focused on NARST proposals this week...

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:08 PM EDT

@MDHJohnson Welcome Diane-- so glad to hear it is going well! It will be an exciting year in KY for sure! #NGSSchat

VogelWendi Aug 4 @ 9:08 PM EDT

@ksteves61811 Hi Katie! How are you feeling? #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:08 PM EDT

@rachelgeneve @LabAids @ppsk12orus Welcome Rachel-- thanks for joining us! #NGSSchat

mbarmstr Aug 4 @ 9:08 PM EDT

@MDHJohnson Can't believe it is time again, but am excited! #Ngsschat

NGSS4Oregon Aug 4 @ 9:08 PM EDT

Hi #NGSSchat Cristina Trecha here from Portland State University (haven't been on here since being director of San Diego Science Project)

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:08 PM EDT

@ksteves61811 Welcome Katie! #NGSSchat

tjscience Aug 4 @ 9:09 PM EDT

@TdiShelton @NGSXproject I'm just trying to be Connecticut's Tricia Shelton - I hope I can get to your level!! #NGSSchat

karalu79 Aug 4 @ 9:09 PM EDT

Hi #ngsschat! Kara, from KS here. Sorry I'm late! :D

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:09 PM EDT

@NGSS4Oregon Hey Cristina! Thanks for joining us! #NGSSchat

safarnum Aug 4 @ 9:09 PM EDT

Hi #NGSSchat. Steve from CT ready to explore the wonders of #NGSS

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:09 PM EDT

@VogelWendi @quincygirls1 Love that! #NGSSchat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:09 PM EDT

@NGSS4Oregon Welcome, Kara! #NGSSchat

ksteves61811 Aug 4 @ 9:09 PM EDT

@VogelWendi Hi Wendi! I'm feeling great! This humidity could go away though. Are you going on Monday? #ngsschat

eacole09 Aug 4 @ 9:09 PM EDT

Hi. Liz from CT here. Curriculum supervisor k-12 in Ellington. Spent today working on MS and K curriculum! #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:09 PM EDT

@jhubb546 Welcome Josh! #NGSSchat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:10 PM EDT

@safarnum Hey Farnums! Welcome! #NGSSchat

tjscience Aug 4 @ 9:10 PM EDT

Where are @helnmaltese & @moveablefeist - they definitely should be in the mix... #NGSSchat

VogelWendi Aug 4 @ 9:10 PM EDT

@tjscience @NGSXproject Facilitating this week. Checked out new pathway with you in it. What are you doing with it? #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:10 PM EDT

@Dora_AMNH Welcome Dora! #NGSSchat

VogelWendi Aug 4 @ 9:10 PM EDT

@ksteves61811 Yep! See ya there? #ngsschat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:10 PM EDT

@eacole09 Hey Liz. Welcome! #NGSSchat

SciMilo Aug 4 @ 9:10 PM EDT

So excited to be back...it's been a minute. #ngsschat

ksteves61811 Aug 4 @ 9:10 PM EDT

@VogelWendi Yes, I'll be working at registration! #ngsschat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:11 PM EDT

Question 1 coming up! #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:11 PM EDT

@NGSS4Oregon Welcome Cristina! Thanks so much for joining us! #NGSSchat

jhubb546 Aug 4 @ 9:11 PM EDT

@eacole09 what are you doing for Kdg? #ngsschat

tjscience Aug 4 @ 9:11 PM EDT

Hey Liz! One of our rockstar CT educators @eacole09 is a MUST follow - getting after #NGSS with no fear #NGSSchat

kat_goyette Aug 4 @ 9:11 PM EDT

Katherine Goyette, Curriculum Specialist/PD for Technology & Integrated Studies at Tulare County in Central California. #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:11 PM EDT

@tjscience @NGSXproject Ha --I'd say you are beyond! #NGSSchat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:11 PM EDT

Q1: When talking standards, what does it mean to “unpack” them? #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:12 PM EDT

@karalu79 Welcome Kara! #NGSSchat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:12 PM EDT

@kat_goyette Hey Katherine. Welcome! #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:12 PM EDT

@eacole09 Welcome Liz! #NGSSchat

SciMilo Aug 4 @ 9:12 PM EDT

@FredEnde woot! #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:12 PM EDT

@SciMilo Welcome Heather! #NGSSchat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:12 PM EDT

@SciMilo #WootWoot #NGSSchat

safarnum Aug 4 @ 9:12 PM EDT

@eacole09 We just finished up 3 weeks of HS and MS development for Greenwich. Fun to collaborate but exhausting work. #ngsschat

2footgiraffe Aug 4 @ 9:13 PM EDT

A1 I think unpacking means to translate them into something that can be taught #ngsschat https://t.co/zl6hUW6oVZ

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:11 PM EDT

Q1: When talking standards, what does it mean to “unpack” them? #NGSSchat

nlrhoades Aug 4 @ 9:13 PM EDT

A1: unpacking means viewing the standard as the destination and then mapping all the stops on the way. #ngsschat #evidencestatements

MDHJohnson Aug 4 @ 9:13 PM EDT

A1 We use a protocol to get at the intent, to know all that a std encompasses- SEPs, DCIs, CCCs. #NGSSchat

MsBolandSci Aug 4 @ 9:13 PM EDT

A1: unpacking means to define what Ss will be able to DO and KNOW. NGSS is already unpacked nicely for us, you just need to bundle #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:13 PM EDT

@kat_goyette Welcome Katherine! #NGSSchat

SciMilo Aug 4 @ 9:13 PM EDT

A1. Unpacking the Standards is another way of saying making sense of the Standards and their explanatory power in science #ngsschat

philiplbell Aug 4 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A1—To me, unpacking involves understanding disciplinary ideas/connections, relation to phenomena & to cultural lives of learners. #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:14 PM EDT

Question 1 here -- Join us on #NGSSchat https://t.co/m0Gr1ISdn7

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:11 PM EDT

Q1: When talking standards, what does it mean to “unpack” them? #NGSSchat

Steph4Science Aug 4 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A1: the standards hold a lot of information beyond the few words used in writing them and can't be taken just topically #NGSSchat

VogelWendi Aug 4 @ 9:15 PM EDT

A1 I usually start with what unpacking in NGSS isn't: to put objective on the board.It is for T understanding of the Framework. #ngsschat

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quincygirls1 Aug 4 @ 9:15 PM EDT

A1 Seeing as we did this today in NGSX. Looking deeply at the Topic - The framework, DCI, SEP and CCCs. #NGSSCHAT https://t.co/8Dp4Vtts6Q

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:11 PM EDT

Q1: When talking standards, what does it mean to “unpack” them? #NGSSchat

karalu79 Aug 4 @ 9:15 PM EDT

A1: It means to dive deeper, look at what they mean in terms of Ss learning - figure out a pathway to get Ss there. #ngsschat

2footgiraffe Aug 4 @ 9:16 PM EDT

#ngsschat I am going to try the Tweetdeck desktop app again.

tjscience Aug 4 @ 9:16 PM EDT

A1: Unpacking the standards is taking the 'science' and asking what it truly means to know it... #NGSSchat

safarnum Aug 4 @ 9:16 PM EDT

A1 Unpack a PE=If Ss are doing this at the end, what does everything upstream from that look like? #NGSSchat

Dora_AMNH Aug 4 @ 9:16 PM EDT

A1 @2footgiraffe #ngsschat i agree with this. there is something about translating the text to make our own meaning

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:16 PM EDT

@quincygirls1 Is exploring deeply the same as unpacking? #NGSSchat

philiplbell Aug 4 @ 9:17 PM EDT

A1 There is a lot packed into #NGSS PEs. It is crucial to open up & learn what is in bounds & not—moving beyond topic mapping. #ngsschat

ksteves61811 Aug 4 @ 9:17 PM EDT

A1: unpacking is a process that takes time. Looking at the framework to find the big ideas that Ss need. Not looking for vocab! #ngsschat

tjscience Aug 4 @ 9:17 PM EDT

A1: Simply knowing Bernoulli's principle doesn't help anyone - but knowing how matter tends to behave is priceless #NGSSchat #NGSS

safarnum Aug 4 @ 9:17 PM EDT

A1 pt2: Unpack also means placing std in context of the community of learners in your school, grade, class #NGSSchat

EduGladiators Aug 4 @ 9:17 PM EDT

Join us @mgrosstaylor & @RyanBJackson1✨Need a reminder? https://t.co/ZgK74ij2aD #paedchat #saskedchat #ngsschat https://t.co/B4S0GUB21W

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:18 PM EDT

@MDHJohnson What type of protocol(s) do you use? #NGSSchat

misteraycock Aug 4 @ 9:18 PM EDT

A1-unpacking means doing your best to take nothing from the DCIs and CCCs for granted-getting into the framework-asking how, why? #NGSSchat

quincygirls1 Aug 4 @ 9:18 PM EDT

@FredEnde It is for me. I think it is my way of trying to make sense of it all. #NGSSCHAT Throw in the evidence statements & storyline too,

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:18 PM EDT

@MDHJohnson I love the phrasing of "intent" #NGSSchat

Dora_AMNH Aug 4 @ 9:18 PM EDT

A1 #ngsschat this is why we created card decks. to unpack a standards page - and let teachers reconstruct it https://t.co/aGeNxZ05Tz

NGSS4Oregon Aug 4 @ 9:18 PM EDT

A1 I think "unpacking" can be problematic term since it assumes you just pull apart a standard & discuss/analyze discrete parts. #NGSSchat

2footgiraffe Aug 4 @ 9:18 PM EDT

Are standards "packed" to save space? #ngsschat

eacole09 Aug 4 @ 9:18 PM EDT

A1- intent...plus reading between the lines to build a coherent vision in order to lead s' to sense making #NGSSchat

kat_goyette Aug 4 @ 9:18 PM EDT

A1: Unpacking standards allows us to break down complexity (PE, DCI, SE, CC) to better understand context as they reconstruct. #ngsschat

jhubb546 Aug 4 @ 9:19 PM EDT

A1 it's like opening a model car box and snapping out all the individual pieces so they can be put together to make a car #ngsschat

quincygirls1 Aug 4 @ 9:19 PM EDT

@Dora_AMNH Can you explain card decks? #ngsschat

tjscience Aug 4 @ 9:19 PM EDT

@MsBolandSci @FredEnde NGSS is? Or are you talking about the Framework? There is a lot of info in those two books... #NGSSchat

Dora_AMNH Aug 4 @ 9:19 PM EDT

A1 #ngsschat @ksteves61811 YES! unpacking definitely means diving into the Framework!

SciMilo Aug 4 @ 9:19 PM EDT

@tjscience is this the new American Express commercial? #ngsschat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:19 PM EDT

@safarnum Can you think of any examples? #ngsschat

NGSS4Oregon Aug 4 @ 9:19 PM EDT

A1 It's like the PE is the carry-on luggage and to understand why someone carried it on you have to find their checked in luggage #NGSSchat

VogelWendi Aug 4 @ 9:20 PM EDT

Ts get stuck in vocab world. Old habits die hard, like Bruce Willis. Process and concepts shift now. #ngsschat https://t.co/AwT4sI4hXL

ksteves61811 Aug 4 @ 9:17 PM EDT

A1: unpacking is a process that takes time. Looking at the framework to find the big ideas that Ss need. Not looking for vocab! #ngsschat

MDHJohnson Aug 4 @ 9:20 PM EDT

@FredEnde A protocol that we dev as we examined process for trying to get at the intent. Uses Frmwrk, stds, app. Been effective.#NGSSchat

rachelgeneve Aug 4 @ 9:20 PM EDT

A1 We cannot teach what we ourselves do not fully grasp. Unpacking is reaching for the larger understanding b4 repacking it for Ss #ngsschat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:20 PM EDT

@2footgiraffe Or because that is the only way we know how to design them? :) #NGSSchat

STEMatBirdMS Aug 4 @ 9:20 PM EDT

#NGSSchat Late to the party. Hope everyone is well.

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:20 PM EDT

@philiplbell Such an important emphasis -- connection to phenomena and culture #NGSSchat

jhubb546 Aug 4 @ 9:20 PM EDT

A1b the car is a finished unit but we have to lay out all the pieces to see how they go together #ngsschat #dontForgetTheStickers

safarnum Aug 4 @ 9:20 PM EDT

@FredEnde @quincygirls1 When I hear exploring I think deeper into the content. Unpack is more broad based than understanding DCIs #ngsschat

cduke62 Aug 4 @ 9:21 PM EDT

A1 #ngsschat we must be careful with the term unpacking! The standards are already unpacked!

SciMilo Aug 4 @ 9:21 PM EDT

@FredEnde excellent use of talk moves, BTW ;) #ngsschat

MDHJohnson Aug 4 @ 9:22 PM EDT

@cduke62 Hi Christine! #NGSSchat

VogelWendi Aug 4 @ 9:22 PM EDT

A1 Unpacking also involves vertical progressions, which play a huge part in planning. #ngsschat

2footgiraffe Aug 4 @ 9:22 PM EDT

@FredEnde I'm not sure I follow, help? #ngsschat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:22 PM EDT

@NGSS4Oregon Ha ha ha. Love this. Hopefully you can find that luggage! #NGSSchat

philiplbell Aug 4 @ 9:22 PM EDT

@TdiShelton For me, those 2 moves are THE signature opportunities of the NGSS / Framework vision. They support meaning & relevance #ngsschat

safarnum Aug 4 @ 9:22 PM EDT

@FredEnde Our Ss live near Long Island Sound, so that was a natural fit for finding ecology phenomena. #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:23 PM EDT

@Steph4Science Beyond the performance expectations -- where do you look for additional guidance used in unpacking #NGSSchat

ksteves61811 Aug 4 @ 9:23 PM EDT

@VogelWendi getting T to look at PE as what Ss r doing instead of vocab has been hard. Esp for elem Ts not comfortable w sci #ngsschat

2footgiraffe Aug 4 @ 9:23 PM EDT

I had a good friend say "I wanna know who keeps packing these things up anyway?!" #ngsschat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:23 PM EDT

Here comes Q2! #NGSSchat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:23 PM EDT

Q2. Much has been said about the value (or lack thereof) of unpacking the dimensions of NGSS. Where do you stand on this? #NGSSchat

tjscience Aug 4 @ 9:23 PM EDT

@NGSS4Oregon Yes! But "unpacking the DCI's" can mean many things - I love unpacking for many painful hours... core ideas are huge! #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:23 PM EDT

@quincygirls1 Can you share any aha moments you had today from the unpacking process? #NGSSchat

kmgill135 Aug 4 @ 9:24 PM EDT

What comes before? What comes after? What are students doing? #ngsschat

safarnum Aug 4 @ 9:24 PM EDT

@philiplbell @TdiShelton ...which are essential for engagement, which is essential for meaningful, lasting learning. #NGSSchat

tjscience Aug 4 @ 9:24 PM EDT

@MsBolandSci Bundling is what I'm the most excited about - because that's how science really is - its not neat and separated #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:24 PM EDT

@karalu79 Where do you look within the #NGSS for guidance to how to support Ss to their #NGSS destination? #NGSSchat

SciMilo Aug 4 @ 9:25 PM EDT

@tjscience haha! I love the idea of naming it "NGSS Awareness." Reminds me of the public service announcements #themore you know #ngsschat

MDHJohnson Aug 4 @ 9:25 PM EDT

A2. Absolutely essential to understanding how to help Ss progress in understanding. #NGSSchat

nlrhoades Aug 4 @ 9:25 PM EDT

A2: I think Ts have to unpack all 3 D's of a PE especially as you transition to NGSS- Ss have never had to think like this before! #ngsschat

misteraycock Aug 4 @ 9:25 PM EDT

A1-the PEs are just the tip of the iceberg-unpacking DCIs allows you to see pieces beneath the surface necessary to understand #NGSSchat

MsBolandSci Aug 4 @ 9:25 PM EDT

A2: I think the 3D's are unpacked and laid out for the T. Ts need to model the SEP, teach the DCI content and infuse the CCC #ngsschat

philiplbell Aug 4 @ 9:25 PM EDT

A2 Practices are multifaceted, interconnect to support investigations, shift form across settings & relate to learner sense-making #ngsschat

2footgiraffe Aug 4 @ 9:26 PM EDT

The truth is I rarely unpack, I just live out of the suitcase. The pun was intentional #ngsschat - not a good idea https://t.co/COX9MIJZmQ

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:23 PM EDT

Q2. Much has been said about the value (or lack thereof) of unpacking the dimensions of NGSS. Where do you stand on this? #NGSSchat

jaclyn_austin Aug 4 @ 9:26 PM EDT

A2:unpacking the dimensions helps ensure we truly understand each as we work to build Ss understanding #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:26 PM EDT

@STEMatBirdMS Welcome David-- thanks so much for joining us! #NGSSchat

safarnum Aug 4 @ 9:26 PM EDT

@TdiShelton @Steph4Science I sometimes turn to the NRC K-12 framework for content questions. #ngsschat

quincygirls1 Aug 4 @ 9:26 PM EDT

a2 - T's ask "Couldn't they have just unpacked them for us?" Unpacking is important but time intensive. #ngsschat https://t.co/Ph3km6sdM8

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:23 PM EDT

Q2. Much has been said about the value (or lack thereof) of unpacking the dimensions of NGSS. Where do you stand on this? #NGSSchat

tjscience Aug 4 @ 9:26 PM EDT

@SciMilo I just piloted a NGSS Awareness PD that I wrote called "Why NGSS?" It's part of our statewide scale up effort for NGSS #NGSSchat

philiplbell Aug 4 @ 9:26 PM EDT

A2 (cont) Therefore, the SEPs also need to be opened up, investigated, understood & then reconstituted in instruction #ngsschat

nlrhoades Aug 4 @ 9:26 PM EDT

@jaclyn_austin If Ts don't spend time doing this, human nature is to fall back on DCIs only. #ngsschat

ksteves61811 Aug 4 @ 9:27 PM EDT

A2: Unpacking is critical! Reading the framework has helped me know where to start and stop. Allows me to go deeper w content #ngsschat

Steph4Science Aug 4 @ 9:27 PM EDT

@TdiShelton was lucky 2 recently hear H. Pratt. Talking 2 Ts in NE about their NGSS expectations/experiences is interesting #NGSSchat

MDHJohnson Aug 4 @ 9:27 PM EDT

A2 Just words on paper until we make our own meaning. #NGSSchat

rachelgeneve Aug 4 @ 9:27 PM EDT

@philiplbell YES! And it's our role as Ts/educators to use our artistry to make the work sing for OUR students. What moves them? #ngsschat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:27 PM EDT

@nlrhoades Would you unpack each dimension differently? #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:27 PM EDT

Can you tell us more... #NGSSchat https://t.co/XlS5L95UA6

cduke62 Aug 4 @ 9:21 PM EDT

A1 #ngsschat we must be careful with the term unpacking! The standards are already unpacked!

misteraycock Aug 4 @ 9:27 PM EDT

A2-unpacking is essential to making our own discoveries-the ideas of the framework much bigger than DCI bits in a foundation box #NGSSchat

karalu79 Aug 4 @ 9:27 PM EDT

@TdiShelton I always go back to the Framework for guidance. Love that the NGSS site clicks right to the appropriate pages! #ngsschat

eacole09 Aug 4 @ 9:27 PM EDT

A2- highlights the complexity of the teaching/learning shifts and not just "new" content standards & "old" ways #NGSSchat

tjscience Aug 4 @ 9:28 PM EDT

@philiplbell I think the practice of unpacking this helps to inform instruction in a way that is not normally taught in college #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:28 PM EDT

@VogelWendi How have you facilitated these vertical conversations in MI? #NGSSchat

jaclyn_austin Aug 4 @ 9:28 PM EDT

@nlrhoades Agree! We've been focusing on Understanding by Design (UbD) to help ensure we support Ss in their 3D learning journey #ngsschat

gablejen Aug 4 @ 9:28 PM EDT

@2footgiraffe nobody likes unpacking cause everyone just wants to start exploring #ngsschat

2footgiraffe Aug 4 @ 9:28 PM EDT

Agreed, so what if the assessment writers unpack differently than we do. #ngsschat https://t.co/44VFQH9nUK

MDHJohnson Aug 4 @ 9:27 PM EDT

A2 Just words on paper until we make our own meaning. #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:28 PM EDT

Well said :) #NGSSchat https://t.co/c5il20Tjbq

philiplbell Aug 4 @ 9:22 PM EDT

@TdiShelton For me, those 2 moves are THE signature opportunities of the NGSS / Framework vision. They support meaning & relevance #ngsschat

VogelWendi Aug 4 @ 9:28 PM EDT

Q2 High Value! Otherwise, we hear, "I already do this in my class. It's just (waves/forces/etc)." Then, we forget CCCs or SEPs. #ngsschat

tjscience Aug 4 @ 9:29 PM EDT

@philiplbell The idea behind what is truly important for people to know - what can we leverage from what we can figure out here #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:29 PM EDT

Question 2 on #NGSSchat https://t.co/BfkzStNG0L

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:23 PM EDT

Q2. Much has been said about the value (or lack thereof) of unpacking the dimensions of NGSS. Where do you stand on this? #NGSSchat

quincygirls1 Aug 4 @ 9:29 PM EDT

Aha was realizing just how much the actual Framerworks document has in it. I SHOULD have know that but... #NGSSchat https://t.co/Nkur4LBk2T

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:23 PM EDT

@quincygirls1 Can you share any aha moments you had today from the unpacking process? #NGSSchat

NGSS4Oregon Aug 4 @ 9:29 PM EDT

@FredEnde A2 Too often it becomes pulling apart the 3 dimensions of single PE, put them together, then put them back in envelope.#ngsschat

amykfmurphy Aug 4 @ 9:29 PM EDT

Late to the party A1: for me it is developing learning targets that scaffold Ss learning to reach PE #NGSSchat https://t.co/J8UzgsbIQk

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:11 PM EDT

Q1: When talking standards, what does it mean to “unpack” them? #NGSSchat

VogelWendi Aug 4 @ 9:29 PM EDT

@TdiShelton At bit. Not a lot. It happens a little in NGSX. I have groups vertically, but we haven't unpacked that way yet. You? #ngsschat

kat_goyette Aug 4 @ 9:29 PM EDT

A2: We ask students to construct their own meaning, to wonder, explore & finally learn by doing. We must do the same w/standards. #ngsschat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:29 PM EDT

@quincygirls1 When shouldn't we unpack? #NGSSchat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:29 PM EDT

@gablejen Share more. . . #NGSSchat

NGSS4Oregon Aug 4 @ 9:30 PM EDT

Join us in #NGSSchat right now! Or you can search for the hashtag and find out what happened (the suspense!!) #NGSS https://t.co/VDnFNPcGP6

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:23 PM EDT

Q2. Much has been said about the value (or lack thereof) of unpacking the dimensions of NGSS. Where do you stand on this? #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:30 PM EDT

Great unpacking questions... Conceptual understanding and the need to engage vs flow? #NGSSchat https://t.co/2hnVvmScF9

kmgill135 Aug 4 @ 9:24 PM EDT

What comes before? What comes after? What are students doing? #ngsschat

rachelgeneve Aug 4 @ 9:30 PM EDT

@nlrhoades Or maybe it's that they haven't been taught like this before! :-) #ngsschat

philiplbell Aug 4 @ 9:31 PM EDT

@tjscience Absolutely. The "practice turn" in #NGSS opens up space for promoting specific forms of learner agency. #ngsschat

amykfmurphy Aug 4 @ 9:31 PM EDT

Loved learning about these tools at #NSTA16 this year! #NGSSchat https://t.co/MT5t5kfFG1

Dora_AMNH Aug 4 @ 9:18 PM EDT

A1 #ngsschat this is why we created card decks. to unpack a standards page - and let teachers reconstruct it https://t.co/aGeNxZ05Tz

SciMilo Aug 4 @ 9:31 PM EDT

A2. See quad1. Understanding what makes big idea "big" is the 1st step into rigorous & equitable teaching #ngsschat https://t.co/kQ2jKjtFh1

karalu79 Aug 4 @ 9:31 PM EDT

A2: I think there needs to be a balance. Sometimes 2 quick to jump in to unpacking. Then in danger of not seeing big pic. #ngsschat

nlrhoades Aug 4 @ 9:31 PM EDT

@FredEnde Not different, using the lens of "How have Ss been asked to do this in past?" vs "How am I asking Ss to do this now?" #ngsschat

ksteves61811 Aug 4 @ 9:31 PM EDT

@VogelWendi and we get back to the idea of a checklist #ngsschat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:31 PM EDT

@Dora_AMNH A fair amount has been said in #NGSSchat archives. You can check them out here: https://t.co/xsOSDgBBnJ

safarnum Aug 4 @ 9:32 PM EDT

A1 Unpacking isn't useful if you don't have a goal. I've been asked to sit down and unpack standards in meetings for its own sake. #ngsschat

jaclyn_austin Aug 4 @ 9:32 PM EDT

We've focused 2 unpacking big understanding(s) 4 Ss 2 walk away w/@ the end of learning experiences-how do we help them get there? #ngsschat

STEMatBirdMS Aug 4 @ 9:32 PM EDT

#NGSSchat A2: each learning prog. leads to Ss deeper understanding of PE(s), but 1 series of lessons only scratches surface. Revisiting key

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:32 PM EDT

@NGSS4Oregon WHy is this problematic? #NGSSchat

VogelWendi Aug 4 @ 9:32 PM EDT

I think a lot of us THINK we know what an SEP is supposed to mean, until unpacking & adds 2 understanding. #ngsschat https://t.co/KBAChs420j

philiplbell Aug 4 @ 9:26 PM EDT

A2 (cont) Therefore, the SEPs also need to be opened up, investigated, understood & then reconstituted in instruction #ngsschat

NGSS4Oregon Aug 4 @ 9:32 PM EDT

A2 Maybe instead of "unpack" we should instead be putting ideas together. Connecting and seeing how u can't pull any of it apart #NGSSchat

amykfmurphy Aug 4 @ 9:33 PM EDT

A2 since #NGSS PEs require so much more DOK than previous AL standards, I feel Ts & Ss need to unpack them #NGSSchat https://t.co/QFVkY9Os4h

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:23 PM EDT

Q2. Much has been said about the value (or lack thereof) of unpacking the dimensions of NGSS. Where do you stand on this? #NGSSchat

VogelWendi Aug 4 @ 9:33 PM EDT

@gablejen Extraordinarily tough. Planning is especially rough. #ngsschat

philiplbell Aug 4 @ 9:33 PM EDT

A2 Designing 3D assessments also crucially hinges on unpacking—so that you know what/how you are gauging via the instrument. #ngsschat

MDHJohnson Aug 4 @ 9:33 PM EDT

A2 How will the assoc SEP help Ss learn and demo learning of DCI thru lens of CCC. #NGSSchat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:33 PM EDT

Q3 on deck. #NGSSchat

tjscience Aug 4 @ 9:33 PM EDT

@philiplbell YES For students to have access to science they need to just DO science, not about people who know science content... #NGSSchat

safarnum Aug 4 @ 9:33 PM EDT

@VogelWendi Exactly. The DCI might be similar, but are Ss actually doing the PE (and you can show w assessment)? #ngsschat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:33 PM EDT

Q3. Thinking of the 3D nature of NGSS, do any dimensions need unpacking? Should we not unpack others? Why? #NGSSchat

Ted_NSTA Aug 4 @ 9:34 PM EDT

Sorry folks! Visiting with my mom and brother in Ohio tonight so I am missing #ngsschat Have fun without me. See you next time

amykfmurphy Aug 4 @ 9:34 PM EDT

Hey @tjscience @MsBolandSci @Dora_AMNH has some great tools for bundling PEs into units of instruction! #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:34 PM EDT

@safarnum @Steph4Science So many golden nuggets in the Framework-- it is a constant go to for me as well https://t.co/Z5FQGrQ6Dt #NGSSchat

philiplbell Aug 4 @ 9:34 PM EDT

@VogelWendi I wish final version of #NGSS had kept more PEs in place that included multiple practices. They were more instructive. #ngsschat

gablejen Aug 4 @ 9:34 PM EDT

@VogelWendi yes I think planning is really rough because you don't know how it is going to affect as learning #ngsschat

jaclyn_austin Aug 4 @ 9:35 PM EDT

Agree @philiplbell finding this true as we work to create performance tasks to check understandings #ngsschat https://t.co/705wURDCvX

philiplbell Aug 4 @ 9:33 PM EDT

A2 Designing 3D assessments also crucially hinges on unpacking—so that you know what/how you are gauging via the instrument. #ngsschat

Ted_NSTA Aug 4 @ 9:35 PM EDT

A3: all three dimensions need unpacking. #ngsschat

VogelWendi Aug 4 @ 9:35 PM EDT

@safarnum Agree. I think Ts often get confused about the PE. It actually contains all 3Ds. Not often looked at that way. #ngsschat

tjscience Aug 4 @ 9:35 PM EDT

A3: @SciMilo unpacked the Crosscutting Concepts in a way that I finally found students using them in amazing ways! #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:35 PM EDT

Love this-- unpacking - making meaning and translating the vision into classroom teaching and learning #NGSSchat https://t.co/O355z45v5w

MDHJohnson Aug 4 @ 9:27 PM EDT

A2 Just words on paper until we make our own meaning. #NGSSchat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:35 PM EDT

@Dora_AMNH :) Though, @Ted_NSTA might have something more than tweets. . .#NGSSchat

philiplbell Aug 4 @ 9:35 PM EDT

@jaclyn_austin I would love to hear more about what you are coming up with. I hope all is well! #ngsschat

science_4_all Aug 4 @ 9:35 PM EDT

@NGSS4Oregon yes- some teachers see "unpacking" as permission to convert 3D into 1D pieces #ngsschat

VogelWendi Aug 4 @ 9:36 PM EDT

@philiplbell Can you explain? You mean more SEPs in a PE? #ngsschat

safarnum Aug 4 @ 9:36 PM EDT

@nlrhoades @FredEnde I don't think we consider what a shift this will be for Ss. They'll need a lot of support. #NGSSchat

MDHJohnson Aug 4 @ 9:36 PM EDT

A3. Need to understand all 3. How will they facilitate learning?#NGSSchat

tjscience Aug 4 @ 9:36 PM EDT

@NGSS4Oregon @philiplbell Can you say more about your thoughts on this?! #NGSSchat

SciMilo Aug 4 @ 9:37 PM EDT

A3. Implicit in our collective need to unpack the Standards is understanding the role each dimension plays in Ss science learning #NGSSchat

amykfmurphy Aug 4 @ 9:37 PM EDT

And I think unpacking looks different to Ts & Ss in different schools/districts. #NGSSchat https://t.co/3i0v7p9l0D

quincygirls1 Aug 4 @ 9:26 PM EDT
a2 - T's ask "Couldn't they have just unpacked them for us?" Unpacking is important but time intensive. #ngsschat https://t.co/Ph3km6sdM8
- FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:23 PM EDT
  
  Q2. Much has been said about the value (or lack thereof) of unpacking the dimensions of NGSS. Where do you stand on this? #NGSSchat

philiplbell Aug 4 @ 9:37 PM EDT

@VogelWendi Yes—earlier versions had more PEs w/ multiple SEPs—to highlight logic of unfolding investigations across practices #ngsschat

MsBolandSci Aug 4 @ 9:37 PM EDT

A3: The CCC needs to be infused, modeled and explained 4 each PE/unit as they are necessary scientific/multidisciplinary concepts #NGSSchat

kmgill135 Aug 4 @ 9:37 PM EDT

@philiplbell #ngsschat A well thought out lesson will have multiple practices

quincygirls1 Aug 4 @ 9:37 PM EDT

A3 all need to be unpacked. CCC and SEP may need more work because it is new. We are used to DCI's. #NGSSCHAT https://t.co/vp4Hh2IA2M

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:33 PM EDT

Q3. Thinking of the 3D nature of NGSS, do any dimensions need unpacking? Should we not unpack others? Why? #NGSSchat

Ted_NSTA Aug 4 @ 9:37 PM EDT

@FredEnde @Dora_AMNH in terms of published research, I would look at project 2061 critical analysis papers #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:37 PM EDT

@VogelWendi Just touching on it in conversation as well too -- I am interested in more structured discussions though as well #NGSSchat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:37 PM EDT

@safarnum @nlrhoades Agreed. And the adult learners they work with! #NGSSchat

nlrhoades Aug 4 @ 9:37 PM EDT

A3: agree @Ted_NSTA If you don't unpack all 3, you fall back on DCIs only, or SEPs/DCIs in iso. #ngsschat #scientificmethodunit #makeitstop

safarnum Aug 4 @ 9:37 PM EDT

@VogelWendi That's why I love https://t.co/nPQiP2zQCt, if you hover over the PE it show which part connects to SEP, DCI, CCC. #ngsschat

VogelWendi Aug 4 @ 9:38 PM EDT

@philiplbell Got it. I was making sure you didn't want more PEs. I think we need less as it is! #ngsschat

MsBolandSci Aug 4 @ 9:38 PM EDT

This is everything! Yes! The PE includes all 3 dimensions and the CCC is often overlooked #ngsschat https://t.co/KRAAKzDAWU

VogelWendi Aug 4 @ 9:35 PM EDT

@safarnum Agree. I think Ts often get confused about the PE. It actually contains all 3Ds. Not often looked at that way. #ngsschat

VogelWendi Aug 4 @ 9:38 PM EDT

@philiplbell Don't you think one SEP will lend itself to others by nature? #ngsschat

VogelWendi Aug 4 @ 9:39 PM EDT

@safarnum The NGSS website does that now too! #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:39 PM EDT

Q4. One task involved in unpacking is to ID components of a given dimension. Does this help regarding the DCIs? Why or why not? #NGSSchat

MsBolandSci Aug 4 @ 9:40 PM EDT

A3: DCI's do not need unpacking. This is like old school lecturing, we can all do that in our sleep. #NGSSchat

ksteves61811 Aug 4 @ 9:40 PM EDT

A3: All 3 need unpacking. We have been doing DCIs, but SEPs and CCCs are new. We need to see what Ss should be doing. #ngsschat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:40 PM EDT

@PaulONeill1972 I'm honored. Would love feedback on the #365blog idea and how my writing grew (or didn't). :) #NGSSchat

philiplbell Aug 4 @ 9:40 PM EDT

@tjscience @NGSS4Oregon Figuring things out abt compelling phenomena can give Ss ways to understand & take action on impt matters #ngsschat

rachelgeneve Aug 4 @ 9:40 PM EDT

@VogelWendi @philiplbell I think you're right - w/ only one Ts think they HAVE to get there using THAT SEP but really many apply. #NGSSchat

amykfmurphy Aug 4 @ 9:40 PM EDT

A3 #NGSSchat since CCCs need explicit instruction for Ss to grasp (along with NOS), I think you need to unpack them. https://t.co/6LmD9RMJbm

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:33 PM EDT

Q3. Thinking of the 3D nature of NGSS, do any dimensions need unpacking? Should we not unpack others? Why? #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:40 PM EDT

@Ted_NSTA We miss you! #NGSSchat

MDHJohnson Aug 4 @ 9:40 PM EDT

A4. Absolutely! Found it helps me understand how Ss can come to understand and demo that. #NGSSchat

tjscience Aug 4 @ 9:40 PM EDT

@SciMilo I'd love to see you do a webinar on this - @RubiconAtlas are the best at that! #NGSSchat

STEMatBirdMS Aug 4 @ 9:40 PM EDT

#ngsschat Each lesson should align w/ 3 dimensions, ergo all 3 dimensions must be unpacked to lead to students working towards PEs.

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:41 PM EDT

So important! #NGSSchat https://t.co/HR6klTtYdQ

safarnum Aug 4 @ 9:39 PM EDT

@FredEnde @nlrhoades I hear lots of talk about supporting Ts, but no one talks about supporting Ss through the transition.

MDHJohnson Aug 4 @ 9:41 PM EDT

A4. Provides insight into how will help Ss use practice to learn concept. #NGSSchat

philiplbell Aug 4 @ 9:41 PM EDT

#ngsschat—I hate to tweet & run — but I have to head out. I look forward to catching up later. Take care! (Thanks @FredEnde & @TdiShelton!)

amykfmurphy Aug 4 @ 9:42 PM EDT

A3 part 2 #NGSSchat DCIs are probably familiar to most Ts, but also need to unpack SEPs to ensure implementation https://t.co/6LmD9RMJbm

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:33 PM EDT

Q3. Thinking of the 3D nature of NGSS, do any dimensions need unpacking? Should we not unpack others? Why? #NGSSchat

nlrhoades Aug 4 @ 9:42 PM EDT

A4: For me the evidence statements have been a huge help in unpacking each dimension. #ngsschat

MsBolandSci Aug 4 @ 9:42 PM EDT

A4: knowing what the SEP is and what to assess Ss on will lead us to HOW/WHEN we want to teach content #ngsschat https://t.co/OY3XzjuGeT

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:39 PM EDT

Q4. One task involved in unpacking is to ID components of a given dimension. Does this help regarding the DCIs? Why or why not? #NGSSchat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:43 PM EDT

@philiplbell @TdiShelton Thanks for joining Phil! #NGSschat

jaclyn_austin Aug 4 @ 9:43 PM EDT

A4: Can especially help Ts see what ideas are/are not needed for student success-helps let go of "but they NEED to know..."#ngsschat

safarnum Aug 4 @ 9:43 PM EDT

@STEMatBirdMS Is that practical? I think each lesson should build toward the PE, which is 3D. #ngsschat

SciMilo Aug 4 @ 9:43 PM EDT

@amykfmurphy can you explain what you mean by "explicit instruction?" @FredEnde #ngsschat

notbrianreiser Aug 4 @ 9:43 PM EDT

Make sure that science isn't too complicated - it needs to be able to fit in 45 minute periods #teachthatngssbiz #NGSSchat #contentislife

TTMobile_us Aug 4 @ 9:44 PM EDT

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amykfmurphy Aug 4 @ 9:44 PM EDT

A4 #NGSSchat I do think it helps to identify each dimension. Make it easier to find connections among PEs. https://t.co/2PgPKnnrkR

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:39 PM EDT

Q4. One task involved in unpacking is to ID components of a given dimension. Does this help regarding the DCIs? Why or why not? #NGSSchat

MsBolandSci Aug 4 @ 9:44 PM EDT

This was a big transition for my Ss. Teaching 7/8 has allowed my Ss 2 see the progression across grades #ngsschat https://t.co/oqH3K0WUT3

safarnum Aug 4 @ 9:39 PM EDT

@FredEnde @nlrhoades I hear lots of talk about supporting Ts, but no one talks about supporting Ss through the transition.

nlrhoades Aug 4 @ 9:44 PM EDT

@safarnum @FredEnde Yup, very scary. Ss will need support bc this is very different than our old curriculum. #ngsschat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:44 PM EDT

@MDHJohnson Can you share an example? #NGSSchat

safarnum Aug 4 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A3 Everyone acknowledges that the CCCs exist, then agrees to never mention them again. #NGSSchat

Steph4Science Aug 4 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A4: at the MS level where Ts may not b experts in all strands the DCIs help avoid perpetuating Ss misconceptions #NGSSchat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:45 PM EDT

@STEMatBirdMS But it can't be forced alignment right? Or, if a dimension isn't fully aligned, is the lesson "bad?" #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:45 PM EDT

@amykfmurphy Unpacking helps me reflect on how to explicitly scaffold CCCs so Ss can understand how to leverage as thinking tools #NGSSchat

SciMilo Aug 4 @ 9:45 PM EDT

@STEMatBirdMS YES ME TOO, like cant-ever-get-rid-of-me #ASTgroupie4life #ngsschat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:46 PM EDT

@philiplbell Thanks for joining us! @FredEnde #NGSSchat

txjohns Aug 4 @ 9:46 PM EDT

@2footgiraffe #ngsschat I approve of this definition.

STEMatBirdMS Aug 4 @ 9:46 PM EDT

@FredEnde #ngsschat No forcing. Series of lessons that are 3D, not single day. Bundling comes into play too. But mainly revisiting.

mbarmstr Aug 4 @ 9:46 PM EDT

@safarnum NGSS author Steven Pruitt says if we aren't careful the CCC's will be the lost dimension. #ngsschat

Ted_NSTA Aug 4 @ 9:46 PM EDT

Remembering my Dad, Stedman Willard Jr Born June 16, 1939 Died July 19, 2016 #ngsschat https://t.co/wFu4Y4kvfb

Ted_NSTA Aug 4 @ 9:34 PM EDT

Sorry folks! Visiting with my mom and brother in Ohio tonight so I am missing #ngsschat Have fun without me. See you next time

tjscience Aug 4 @ 9:46 PM EDT

In CT I am working on scaling up NGSS PD in the state through the @NGSXproject - more info here - https://t.co/ViNMOcJaXF #NGSSchat

jaclyn_austin Aug 4 @ 9:46 PM EDT

Gotta run #ngsschat friends- thanks for pushing my thinking as always! Thx @TdiShelton @FredEnde

MDHJohnson Aug 4 @ 9:47 PM EDT

@FredEnde Not just patterns in general but compare or is there a rate or at micro level. Get specific with a dimension. #NGSSchat

nlrhoades Aug 4 @ 9:47 PM EDT

@STEMatBirdMS @FredEnde Ok, Phew! I was thinking All 3D every day - how long are your classes?!" #ngsschat

safarnum Aug 4 @ 9:48 PM EDT

@jaclyn_austin All of us lost a pet project to NGSS #ngsschat https://t.co/KlxxvoGzMm

amykfmurphy Aug 4 @ 9:48 PM EDT

@SciMilo @FredEnde Ss don't tend to pick up on CCCs or NOS w/out Ts pointing them out. "What patterns did we see in this lesson?" #NGSSchat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:48 PM EDT

@jaclyn_austin @FredEnde Great to see you Jackie! #NGSSchat

VogelWendi Aug 4 @ 9:48 PM EDT

@MsBolandSci I wonder if unpacking the DCI with phenomenon and S questions in mind might change our need to unpack them. #ngsschat

MDHJohnson Aug 4 @ 9:48 PM EDT

@Ted_NSTA So sorry, Ted. My condolences. #NGSSchat

NGSS4Oregon Aug 4 @ 9:49 PM EDT

A4 Framework provides info/demarcation 4 secondary but K-5 needs more 2061 level/depth language #NGSSchat

STEMatBirdMS Aug 4 @ 9:49 PM EDT

@nlrhoades @FredEnde #NGSSchat 55 min & we may be on a specific learning performance for a PE for days or weeks. Sorry about that!

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:49 PM EDT

@jaclyn_austin @TdiShelton Thanks for being here, Jackie! #NGSSchat

safarnum Aug 4 @ 9:49 PM EDT

@MsBolandSci @FredEnde @nlrhoades I'm in the same boat, Contrast betw those already on the #NGSS train from 7 and those who aren't #ngsschat

gablejen Aug 4 @ 9:49 PM EDT

@mbarmstr @safarnum YES! in away I think those are the most important because it really gives students, the WHY? #ngsschat

Ted_NSTA Aug 4 @ 9:50 PM EDT

CCCs, the Jan Brady of #NGSS #ngsschat https://t.co/8ogbpUBIHx

mbarmstr Aug 4 @ 9:46 PM EDT

@safarnum NGSS author Steven Pruitt says if we aren't careful the CCC's will be the lost dimension. #ngsschat

amykfmurphy Aug 4 @ 9:50 PM EDT

@safarnum @jaclyn_austin LOL! I sang this to my teachers often during training! #NGSSchat

MDHJohnson Aug 4 @ 9:51 PM EDT

@safarnum @MsBolandSci @FredEnde @nlrhoades What your Ss will do may make believers of others. #NGSSchat

gablejen Aug 4 @ 9:51 PM EDT

@TdiShelton @amykfmurphy would love to see an example of scaffolding of CCCs #ngsschat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:51 PM EDT

Here comes Q5! #NGSSchat

STEMatBirdMS Aug 4 @ 9:51 PM EDT

@amykfmurphy @SciMilo @FredEnde #ngsschat CCCs are kind of like that kid that asks the question in class that leads to fruitful convos!

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:51 PM EDT

Q5. Thinking of the DCIs, are there any that would benefit from true unpacking? Any which unpacking is unnecessary? #NGSSchat

NGSS4Oregon Aug 4 @ 9:51 PM EDT

A4 But PS4 is great example where the parameters of framework are not adequate for K-5 teachers to unpack DCI without other stuff #NGSSchat

amykfmurphy Aug 4 @ 9:51 PM EDT

@Steph4Science @SciMilo @FredEnde great way to keep Ts & Ss focused on them! #NGSSchat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:51 PM EDT

@MDHJohnson @safarnum @MsBolandSci @nlrhoades Agreed. Often best modeling happens from peer learners! #NGSSchat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:52 PM EDT

@STEMatBirdMS @amykfmurphy @SciMilo Can't be forgotten! #NGSSChat

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:52 PM EDT

@gablejen @amykfmurphy I will give a blog about it a shot -- will you give some feedback :) #NGSSchat

VogelWendi Aug 4 @ 9:52 PM EDT

I find myself saying, "Just be Elsa" lately. How do some of u handle "they need that in college" piece? #ngsschat https://t.co/gE18mRTDtO

jaclyn_austin Aug 4 @ 9:43 PM EDT

A4: Can especially help Ts see what ideas are/are not needed for student success-helps let go of "but they NEED to know..."#ngsschat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:52 PM EDT

I can't miss this retweet. #NGSSChat https://t.co/OPvdFjQ4jI

Ted_NSTA Aug 4 @ 9:50 PM EDT
CCCs, the Jan Brady of #NGSS #ngsschat https://t.co/8ogbpUBIHx
- mbarmstr Aug 4 @ 9:46 PM EDT
  
  @safarnum NGSS author Steven Pruitt says if we aren't careful the CCC's will be the lost dimension. #ngsschat

DrSPruitt Aug 4 @ 9:52 PM EDT

@Ted_NSTA @mbarmstr @safarnum Content, Content, Content. The Marcia Brady? #ngsschat

MsBolandSci Aug 4 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A5: The waves DCI's needed unpacking for me. I really needed to break those down and brush up on my understanding before teaching #NGSSchat

SciMilo Aug 4 @ 9:53 PM EDT

@amykfmurphy @FredEnde I see. Asking bec I'm interested in diff bet the "Ss need to know CCCs by name" & the "no they don't" camps #ngsschat

Steph4Science Aug 4 @ 9:53 PM EDT

CCCs are our opportunity 2 connect what's going on in sci classrooms w/other subjects so Ss see how their learning is connected #NGSSchat

Dora_AMNH Aug 4 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A5 #ngsschat i would say the engineering DCIs for me personally required extra unpacking time

TdiShelton - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:53 PM EDT

Question 5 as we wrap up our conversation on #NGSSchat about unpacking.. https://t.co/Kgb0djsjPe

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:51 PM EDT

Q5. Thinking of the DCIs, are there any that would benefit from true unpacking? Any which unpacking is unnecessary? #NGSSchat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:53 PM EDT

@SciMilo @amykfmurphy As a process, Explicit Direct Instruction is big. . . #NGSSchat

tjscience Aug 4 @ 9:54 PM EDT

A5: All core ideas in science are complex. Every scientist could unpack them over and over until they agree they still have ?'s #NGSSchat

MDHJohnson Aug 4 @ 9:54 PM EDT

A5. PS DCIs seem more loaded and require more unpacking at least for me. #NGSSchat

nlrhoades Aug 4 @ 9:54 PM EDT

A5: Assessment boundaries help reign in Ts who get overzealous with the DCI unpacking. "What do u mean no protein synth in MS?" #ngsschat

STEMatBirdMS Aug 4 @ 9:54 PM EDT

#ngsschat A5 they all need unpacking. Secondarily, the storyline truly builds Ss und.Maybe, just as important. Pace yourselves, though.

Steph4Science Aug 4 @ 9:54 PM EDT

@VogelWendi @jaclyn_austin Rhey need critical thinking in college. Content can be picked up along the way #NGSSchat

gablejen Aug 4 @ 9:54 PM EDT

@tjscience but isn't this what we want our students to do too #ngsschat

amykfmurphy Aug 4 @ 9:54 PM EDT

A5: I was just thinking the same thing. We've done waves but not connected it to tech/info transfer. #NGSSchat https://t.co/TKhWskL16a

MsBolandSci Aug 4 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A5: The waves DCI's needed unpacking for me. I really needed to break those down and brush up on my understanding before teaching #NGSSchat

safarnum Aug 4 @ 9:55 PM EDT

@DrSPruitt @Ted_NSTA @mbarmstr The CCCs are the secret sauce of NGSS, what makes it special and unique from older STEM efforts. #NGSSchat

Steph4Science Aug 4 @ 9:55 PM EDT

A5: depends on the T #NGSSchat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:55 PM EDT

@VogelWendi Oh, you mean "Let It Go?" #NGSSchat

VogelWendi Aug 4 @ 9:55 PM EDT

@Steph4Science @jaclyn_austin Agree, but it isn't an easy sell. #ngsschat

tjscience Aug 4 @ 9:55 PM EDT

@gablejen Agreed - this is what we need to do before we start a unit... #NGSSchat But then we still want them to have good questions!

misteraycock Aug 4 @ 9:55 PM EDT

A5 unpacking K-5 DCIs extremely important-ideas seem deceptively simple, but there's a big diff between knowing & understanding #NGSSchat

rachelgeneve Aug 4 @ 9:55 PM EDT

@MsBolandSci Esp MS-PS4-2! Hard to make that fit naturally with the other two. #ngsschat

gablejen Aug 4 @ 9:56 PM EDT

@TdiShelton @amykfmurphy absolutely. Just remembered we are attempting a lesson Feedback mechanisms #ngsschat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:56 PM EDT

@tjscience So does that mean we shoudl unpack? Or we shouldn't? #NGSSchat

VogelWendi Aug 4 @ 9:56 PM EDT

@FredEnde I posted prior to seeing the GIF. I am a few minutes behind. :) #ngsschat

STEMatBirdMS Aug 4 @ 9:56 PM EDT

@MsBolandSci #ngsschat do you teach grade 6? Couldn't agree more. I started unpacking those. Would love to chat about it, if you'd like.

amykfmurphy Aug 4 @ 9:56 PM EDT

@SciMilo @FredEnde I wouldn't say they need to know by name (i.e. memorize), but Ss need experience w/them to see connections. #NGSSchat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:56 PM EDT

@MDHJohnson They are juicy. Any in particular that stand out? #NGSSchat

MDHJohnson Aug 4 @ 9:56 PM EDT

@rachelgeneve @MsBolandSci Amen! Hardest unit I have developed was K weather. Fun challenge. #NGSSchat

quincygirls1 Aug 4 @ 9:56 PM EDT

I feel the need to unpack everything because I know so very little. #ngsschat Couldn't make suggestions just yet. https://t.co/78ArMGn2C0

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:51 PM EDT

Q5. Thinking of the DCIs, are there any that would benefit from true unpacking? Any which unpacking is unnecessary? #NGSSchat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:56 PM EDT

@VogelWendi Which .gif? I'm probably even further behind. :) #NGSSchat

tjscience Aug 4 @ 9:57 PM EDT

@FredEnde I don't think about a unit without going back to the framework - #whatdoestheframeworksay #NGSSchat

DrSPruitt Aug 4 @ 9:57 PM EDT

@safarnum @Ted_NSTA @mbarmstr Its different bc they are explicit and used to explain phenom. Also, they are in the stds.#NGSSchat

MDHJohnson Aug 4 @ 9:57 PM EDT

@FredEnde As chem tchr, find those loaded at HS and energy across all grades. #NGSSchat

gablejen Aug 4 @ 9:58 PM EDT

@tjscience drives me crazy when they don't have questions. Bad delivery or just no questions. #ngsschat

VogelWendi Aug 4 @ 9:58 PM EDT

Q5 Unpack all that you are going to teach, but not all at once. And do it in teams if possible #ngsschat

FredEnde - Moderator Aug 4 @ 9:58 PM EDT

@safarnum @MDHJohnson @MsBolandSci @nlrhoades But, we certainly can build those skills through any content area we instruct around #NGSSchat

MDHJohnson Aug 4 @ 9:58 PM EDT

@eacole09 Would welcome your feedback. #NGSSchat

Dora_AMNH Aug 4 @ 9:58 PM EDT

#ngsschat don't forget to check out the @TeachingChannel Deep Dive page "How do I unpack the #NGSS?" https://t.co/szuNxPoyp0

2footgiraffe Aug 4 @ 9:59 PM EDT

I need way more practice unpacking #ngsschat

amykfmurphy Aug 4 @ 9:59 PM EDT

❤️ #NGSSchat #ALsci #CCCs https://t.co/7ccSTYnzUP

SciMilo Aug 4 @ 9:55 PM EDT

@gablejen @TdiShelton @amykfmurphy https://t.co/Mv0tqM4oQU

Ted_NSTA Aug 4 @ 9:59 PM EDT

A5: The reason unpacking is necessary is that two people can read the same DCI, SEP or CCC but disagree on its meaning #NGSSchat

MsBolandSci Aug 4 @ 9:59 PM EDT

I cannot take credit for this, as I found it on Twitter, but wanted to share this great CCC resource since it's the Jan Brady. #NGSSchat

tjscience Aug 4 @ 9:59 PM EDT

This is an oldie but a goodie - I may know the guy that made this one... #NGSSchat #NGSS https://t.co/hJa4sFKENE