#miched Archive

The #michED chat is a grassroots effort dedicated to giving teachers, students, and parents across Michigan a bigger voice in the conversation about education in our state. We welcome all voices through a variety of projects, media, and social networking. We’re trying to address educational issues through apolitical conversation, spreading ideas and stories of success from Michigan classrooms across the state, and helping teachers and students regain the courage to connect and demonstrate that schools in Michigan are creating amazing opportunities for learning. We want the face and voice of education in Michigan to be a mural of shared experiences and positive examples of connected learning.

Wednesday October 25, 2017
8:00 PM EDT

  • MrsMurat Oct 25 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Ss who broke the internet with positivity this past Friday! https://t.co/mAJMMUrG9V #EdBeat #FLedchat #Gwinchat #miched #ncadmin #NOVAedchat
  • participatechat Oct 25 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Participate in the upcoming #miched by sharing resources and collaborating at https://t.co/Y5iW4Lilye
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Hello #miched Please introduce yourself, where you teach and why you are here tonight!
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    I'm Stephanie Grant @sgrant_phd! I'll be cohosting tonight and work for Developmental Enhancement Behavioral Health in Holland! #miched
    In reply to @tmaynard5, @sgrant_phd
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    We are welcoming our expert @sgrant_phd to help us dive into understanding students (Ss) with trauma brain. Please follow her! #miched
  • corytimmer Oct 25 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Cory Timmer, Creekside MS in Zeeland, heard Dr. Grant in Aug, excited to learn more about Ss we work with everyday. #miched
  • conrad_chris Oct 25 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Hi #miched. I'm Chris. I'm here b/c it's MichED Wednesday and trauma brain info is needed to help all kids succeed.
  • PCCSedTech Oct 25 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    #miched #pccs #edtech #mypccs How Seeing and Using Gestures Make Ideas More Memorable https://t.co/NpOVBbX9cz
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    We'll use the Q and A format for tonight's chat. Questions can be found here. https://t.co/0RsvHivFSR #miched
  • danieltmares Oct 25 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Daniel, instructional tech coach in Coloma. Currently riding the rails between Battle Creek & East Lansing. Here tonight to help all Ss and understand impact of trauma. #michED
  • dtelgenhof Oct 25 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Dan From Holland High. Been to two PD’s on trauma and want to learn more. #miched
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Hello! Glad you are stopping by #miched
    In reply to @conrad_chris
  • EduGladiators Oct 25 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    #EduGladiators wraps October series on Ss Engagement SATURDAY w/@TopDogTeaching on #flexibleseating #FLEdChat #miched #ONedchat #CPChat
  • danieltmares Oct 25 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    Should also mention signal is super spotty through here! #michED
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    Q1: Please take 5 minutes to watch a video on “trauma brain”. Please respond with one take-away. #miched https://t.co/BGdsC4C1E8
  • mcculloughmg Oct 25 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    Top shelf principal helping families in district to understand #mileg actions. Great job @MattWprincipal ! #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    A1. My take away is that somehow we have to get the "image" paired with that video changed! LOL! It's not very flattering. #miched
    In reply to @tmaynard5
  • AnnSmart17 Oct 25 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    Made it! Just getting home going to try and follow along! #michED
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    A1. It’s a big deal…check out the map. Notice Michigan. #miched
    In reply to @tmaynard5
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    Just posted the video to watch and Q1. Welcome to #miched
    In reply to @AnnSmart17
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    A1. Map Link: https://t.co/tvG0RZy273 #miched
    In reply to @tmaynard5
  • kayceedammann Oct 25 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    Hey #Miched I'm just joining in! Kaycee from Midland
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    A1: My takeaway is that this I didn't realize all this could happen at such a young age. Wow. #miched
  • conrad_chris Oct 25 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    A1: My takeaway: Behavior issues start outside of the class. Need to make class safe for learning. #miched
  • corytimmer Oct 25 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    A1: Relationships are key! #miched
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    Welcome - we just posted Q1 and are getting started. https://t.co/0RsvHivFSR #miched
    In reply to @kayceedammann
  • JonMVoss Oct 25 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    Interesting @sgrant_phd. I would have expected states with large urban areas (NY, CA, IL) to be higher. Misconception on my part. #miched
    • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:09 PM EDT
      A1. It’s a big deal…check out the map. Notice Michigan. #miched
      In reply to @tmaynard5
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    Seems like all parts of education (and life) go back to this. Relationships! #miched
  • mcculloughmg Oct 25 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    A1 Trauma changes how we as educators need to understand/treat students and teach lessons #miched
  • dtelgenhof Oct 25 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    A1: “healing happens in relationship” We need to understand our kids backgrounds to help improve their futures. The way to do this is relationships. #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    A1: To be blunt, you can be really off track really early. :( #miched
    In reply to @tmaynard5
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    Q2: What characteristics do you see in students with “trauma brain”? #miched
  • JonMVoss Oct 25 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    Not only are relationships key @tmaynard5, but think of the damage when a trusted relationship betrays you. #miched
  • conrad_chris Oct 25 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    And not every child needs the same responses, but every child needs our attention and respect. #miched
    In reply to @tmaynard5
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    And this makes my teacher heart and mom heart) just ache! #miched
    In reply to @sgrant_phd
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    We often forget that poverty is a trauma in and of itself and often creates additional trauma. Often more rural areas are hit hard. #miched
    In reply to @JonMVoss
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    So how do we figure out all the different ways Ss need us to respond? That is what I know I need help with! #miched
    • conrad_chris Oct 25 @ 8:14 PM EDT
      And not every child needs the same responses, but every child needs our attention and respect. #miched
      In reply to @tmaynard5
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    Right? Such an impossible psychological dilemma. The person that should be safe hurts you. #miched
    In reply to @JonMVoss, @tmaynard5
  • JonMVoss Oct 25 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    A2: Lack of trust. You think that relationship is building, then seemingly unexpectedly they push you away. Starting to see why. #miched
  • AnnSmart17 Oct 25 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    A2: Trust #michED
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    A2. Here are some of the characteristics I often see. #miched
    In reply to @tmaynard5
  • JonMVoss Oct 25 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    This is a key takeaway. Some people forget about rural poverty. #miched
    • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:15 PM EDT
      We often forget that poverty is a trauma in and of itself and often creates additional trauma. Often more rural areas are hit hard. #miched
      In reply to @JonMVoss
  • conrad_chris Oct 25 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    Try, try, try, try, try. Patience. Try, try, try. Listen. Try, try, try, try. Care. #miched
    In reply to @tmaynard5
  • mcculloughmg Oct 25 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    A2: Difficulty focusing, 'trust' issues with adults or genders, emotional or executive function issues #miched
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    A2: Every type. Withdrawing sometimes, yet aggression others. Not telling the truth, embellishing stories. #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    But they don't really want you to leave. #miched
    In reply to @JonMVoss
  • danieltmares Oct 25 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    Spotty signal. A1: early life impacts greatly. Relationships are essential. #michED
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    A2. Here is an image that helps us separate out what we may think we see versus what’s really behind a behavior. #miched
    In reply to @tmaynard5
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    Here is a great list of characteristics to watch for Tchs and Admins! #miched
    • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:16 PM EDT
      A2. Here are some of the characteristics I often see. #miched
      In reply to @tmaynard5
  • JonMVoss Oct 25 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    All students need consistency; need to see over and over you are going to be there for them, even when they try to push you away. #miched
    • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:15 PM EDT
      So how do we figure out all the different ways Ss need us to respond? That is what I know I need help with! #miched
      • conrad_chris Oct 25 @ 8:14 PM EDT
        And not every child needs the same responses, but every child needs our attention and respect. #miched
        In reply to @tmaynard5
  • conrad_chris Oct 25 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    A2: Different responses. Fake apathy. (I say fake b/c they do care but easier to pretend they don't) Anger. Sleep. Restlessness. #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    A2. This chart shows overlapping symptoms of trauma & other categories: https://t.co/qkqRGRsc0t #miched
    In reply to @tmaynard5
  • corytimmer Oct 25 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    Wonder how many trauma kids are masquerading as ADHD? #miched
    In reply to @sgrant_phd, @tmaynard5
  • dtelgenhof Oct 25 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    I’ve found this so helpful. Change our mindset to the why of behavior. #miched
    In reply to @sgrant_phd, @tmaynard5
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    A lot. #miched
    In reply to @corytimmer, @tmaynard5
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    Great question! #miched
    • corytimmer Oct 25 @ 8:19 PM EDT
      Wonder how many trauma kids are masquerading as ADHD? #miched
      In reply to @sgrant_phd, @tmaynard5
  • conrad_chris Oct 25 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    Truly the hardest part about teaching. Going in to fight for the kids that give the impression that they want you to quit on them. #miched
    In reply to @tmaynard5
  • danieltmares Oct 25 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    Trust is a big one that I am seeing. Sometimes it's apathy towards school, work, relationships. Thinking of ensuring caring, safe, and trusting environment are key! 🔑 #michED
  • aschoenborn Oct 25 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    Favorite moments of P/T conferences: joyful convos about literacy processes and learning growth without grades or rubrics. @ncte #miched
  • JacobaMead Oct 25 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    #miched A1: My take away: forming relationships with students with trauma is the best way to help them learn to trust and become successful.
  • JonMVoss Oct 25 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    Or are being labeled "naught" or "troubled" #miched
    In reply to @corytimmer, @sgrant_phd, @tmaynard5
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    If they let you know how much they cared and then you rejected them, it might break them. They have to hide it. #miched
    In reply to @conrad_chris, @tmaynard5
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    Q3: Do you feel you can identify and prevent ESCALATION triggers? If so, what are the common triggers you’ve experienced? #miched
  • tchalmer_t Oct 25 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    Just got home- trying to catch up. Tami Chalmers, Zeeland #michEd
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    We assume (incorrectly) a lot of intentionality behind a students' negative behaviors. #miched
    In reply to @JonMVoss, @corytimmer, @tmaynard5
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    We just posted Q3. https://t.co/0RsvHivFSR Welcome to #miched
    In reply to @tchalmer_t
  • conrad_chris Oct 25 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    But when you get through!!!!! #miched
    In reply to @sgrant_phd, @tmaynard5
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    The trauma often occurred within the relationship so the healing needs to as well. #miched
    In reply to @JacobaMead
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    So true - when we break down that wall, there is nothing like it! #miched
    In reply to @conrad_chris, @sgrant_phd
  • danieltmares Oct 25 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    So important to recognize perceptions and bias and the role they play with our students. Must recognize and work to overcome! #michED
    In reply to @dtelgenhof, @JonMVoss, @corytimmer, @sgrant_phd, @tmaynard5
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    YES!! #miched
    In reply to @conrad_chris, @tmaynard5
  • AnnSmart17 Oct 25 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    A3: Well pulling out their hair was for sure a sign. #miched
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    A3: When a more stern voice is used by Tch or Ss, I feel escalation can happen. When someone is confronted on an issue too. #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    A3. Remember to focus on creating a safe environment first! #miched
  • JonMVoss Oct 25 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    A3: I think it is often about losing control. If kids f/trauma perceive they are losing it, they are going to act to take it back. #miched
  • corytimmer Oct 25 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    A3: Often see triggers when Ss come to the defense of others. Seem more comfortable speaking up on others behalf. #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    A3. Here are some typical things you can focus on in your efforts to prevent. #miched
  • JacobaMead Oct 25 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    #miched Hi! Jacoba, a.k.a Mrs. Mead. Kinder teach from Allegan, MI. Went to a presentation by @sgrant_phd last spring & need to learn more!
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    Yes - these can help or hurt for sure. Making sure judgement isn't given because of perception & bias is a must! #miched
    In reply to @danieltmares, @dtelgenhof, @JonMVoss, @corytimmer, @sgrant_phd
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    Yes. In every mammalian species a deeper voice signals threat, so of course it results in escalation! #miched
    In reply to @tmaynard5
  • dtelgenhof Oct 25 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    So true. Doesn’t have to be loud to be perceived as “yelling” and then dislike or rejection. #miched
    In reply to @tmaynard5
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    Ouch! Yep. #miched
    In reply to @AnnSmart17
  • danieltmares Oct 25 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    A3: depends on relationship with student. Some may trigger on smallest item (not having a pencil), some may be actions or words. Pay attention to little shifts to try and stop/slow escalation to protection student dignity #michED
  • JonMVoss Oct 25 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    So often the way the adult reacts to the behavior is key. Patience. Empathy. Compassion. #miched
    In reply to @sgrant_phd
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    When you're born into chaos, you try to find any semblance of control you can. Even if you're controlling something dumb. #miched
    In reply to @JonMVoss
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    We are on Q3 right now. Welcome! https://t.co/0RsvHivFSR #miched
    In reply to @JacobaMead, @sgrant_phd
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    Besides, controlling something can sometimes prevent further maltreatment. #miched
    In reply to @JonMVoss
  • dtelgenhof Oct 25 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    A:3 transition times are often when triggers occur. #miched
  • mcculloughmg Oct 25 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    A3 Treat emotion like academics & we'd be better off. See a struggle? Give more support just like u should with differenti inst. #miched
  • AnnSmart17 Oct 25 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    Yes! They act on that negativity. We need to be proactive and try to stay calm when dealing with Ss of trauma, or really any Ss. #miched
    • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:25 PM EDT
      A3: When a more stern voice is used by Tch or Ss, I feel escalation can happen. When someone is confronted on an issue too. #miched
  • JacobaMead Oct 25 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    #miched A2: Trauma Ss push limits every day, try to make Ts upset on purpose, push peers & Ts away, need to be aware of their surroundings
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    This explains to much about a Ss I have this year. Control! #miched
    In reply to @sgrant_phd, @JonMVoss
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    Remember that just IDing triggers will take up all your time. Often it was simply the accumulation, not a specific trigger. #miched
    In reply to @danieltmares
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    Yes, hallways, cafeterias, before/after school. Transitions within a classroom too! #miched
    In reply to @dtelgenhof
  • conrad_chris Oct 25 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    A3: #miched @sgrant_phd I love the preventative tips. To support, some Ss need a break. Give hallway walks to allow recenter. #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Any change is perceived as a threat. I might die. #miched
    In reply to @dtelgenhof
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Q4: What strategies do you already use in your classroom environment to help students with trauma brain? #miched
  • JonMVoss Oct 25 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    So hard! Especially after you give your heart and soul to a child. We have to remember they are not doing what they do to hurt you. #miched
    In reply to @corytimmer, @sgrant_phd
  • MrsMandrelle Oct 25 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Jumping in late. Rachel Mandrelle from @JonesvilleCS I teach 3rd grade #miched This chat caught my eye. I have 7 with trauma this year!
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Too many threats to scan. HUGE trigger. #miched
    In reply to @tmaynard5, @dtelgenhof
  • JacobaMead Oct 25 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    #miched A3: I need to get to know the Ss well before I can identify triggers. Each trauma S I've worked with has been different. It's tough.
  • danieltmares Oct 25 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    But we need to find the why. It's not always that it is distrust or dislike by the S to T. Sometimes it's where they feel safe. We must acknowledge that. #michED
    In reply to @JacobaMead
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Think parentese (how we talk to babies). It will activate calming pathways instead. Higher pitch, stretched out vowels, smiles. #miched
    In reply to @AnnSmart17
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Makes sense - a Ss going through some tough things might need different passing times! #miched
    In reply to @sgrant_phd, @dtelgenhof
  • JonMVoss Oct 25 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    A4: I would think consistency, structure, and routines are helpful. Creates a sense of comfort and safety. #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    A3. Once you’ve established safety, don’t exhaust yourself searching for every trigger out there. Sometimes escalations will happen. #miched
  • mcculloughmg Oct 25 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    A4 Increase choice and voice in learning. High expectations are a must but giving someone control who sorely needs it is important! #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    A3. When a threat is perceived, the amygdala can trigger a defensive reaction & stress response in less than 50 milliseconds. #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A3. 50 ms isn’t enough time for anyone to think or “choose” better/different. You OR the student. #miched
  • AnnSmart17 Oct 25 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A4: Is hugging allowed? I just want to hug those poor babies. #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A4. Visual cues and reminders are key! Break it down, rehearse it, & repeat it! #miched
  • MrsMandrelle Oct 25 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A3: sometimes the word "no" is a trigger. Many other ways to say no; not right now, yes but this first, later #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A4. Here’s why: https://t.co/LDwubFE6Ub #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A4. Focus on an organized, natural environment. #miched
  • danieltmares Oct 25 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Even the smallest things Ss can take pride in, like classroom jobs and roles! #michED
    In reply to @mcculloughmg
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A4. Think less Chuck E Cheese, more spa. #miched
  • JacobaMead Oct 25 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    #miched A3: I JUST learned of trauma & won't claim to be an expert at identifying triggers. I could see Ss "ramping up" by their bod. lang.
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Hugging is sometimes VERY appropriate. Other times, not so much. #miched
    In reply to @AnnSmart17
  • dtelgenhof Oct 25 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    At least a calming touch on the shoulder can be helpful. #miched
    In reply to @AnnSmart17
  • JonMVoss Oct 25 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    I was a secondary person, but I see a lot of elementary classrooms I find very busy visuallly, even as an adult. #miched
    In reply to @sgrant_phd
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    A4: I try and do these things daily and would think they help. #miched
    • JonMVoss Oct 25 @ 8:32 PM EDT
      A4: I would think consistency, structure, and routines are helpful. Creates a sense of comfort and safety. #miched
  • AnnSmart17 Oct 25 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    No disagreeing, but some of these go against what most schools are doing with flexible seating and paint colors. #miched
  • dtelgenhof Oct 25 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Can you explain natural environment? #miched
    In reply to @sgrant_phd
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Love these ways of saying "no" that don't sound so harsh! Thanks for sharing with #miched #bettertogether
    • MrsMandrelle Oct 25 @ 8:33 PM EDT
      A3: sometimes the word "no" is a trigger. Many other ways to say no; not right now, yes but this first, later #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Sometimes it needs to be a "sneak touch" - I touch you and am across the room before you can complain! #miched
    In reply to @dtelgenhof, @AnnSmart17
  • conrad_chris Oct 25 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A4: I am available. As Ss work, I am moving around the room and starting convos with Ss at each group. Try to set safe environment. #miched
  • JacobaMead Oct 25 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    #miched A3: Some Ss visibly show signs of anxiety: pacing, shaking, rocking. I could sense they were no longer at ease. Hard to describe.
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    Love this idea! Great analogy. #miched
    In reply to @sgrant_phd
  • corytimmer Oct 25 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A4: I always try to talk to students privately w/non-confrontational body language, never face to face, but side to side. #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    Colors and textures you see out in nature - greens, tans, woven fabrics, etc. rather than neons and plastic or industrial metal. #miched
    In reply to @dtelgenhof
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Yep. They do. But when have schools and development research ever aligned completely? ;) #miched
    In reply to @AnnSmart17
  • danieltmares Oct 25 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A4: multiple times and opportunities to learn different ways. Lowering the florescent lights and using floor lamps. Multiple seating arrangements. Trying to find how to make all comfortable #michED
  • AnnSmart17 Oct 25 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Good point. #miched
    In reply to @sgrant_phd
  • dtelgenhof Oct 25 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Me too. Side to side and I often try to get on their level or lower height wise. #miched
    In reply to @corytimmer
  • JacobaMead Oct 25 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    #miched A4: Stopped using "clip chart," speak calmly, spend time with them 1-on-1, teach calming strats like deep breathes, teach emotions
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Let's get some strategies out there to help each other help these struggling Ss. Q5 is almost up #miched
  • dtelgenhof Oct 25 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    I’d add allowing for movement as well. #miched
    In reply to @danieltmares
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    I usually get lower, but I need to do more side-to-side. Good reminders! #miched
    In reply to @dtelgenhof, @corytimmer
  • conrad_chris Oct 25 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    I think moderation is important. I let Ss pick where they sit, but then then need to stay there. They have choice and stability. #miched
    In reply to @AnnSmart17, @sgrant_phd
  • JonMVoss Oct 25 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    Praise in public. Correct behavior in private as often as possible. #miched
    In reply to @corytimmer
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A5. It’s important to assess how stressed out the student is. Think 5 stages of stress: 1. Calm 2. Alert 3. Alarm 4. Fear 5. Terror #miched
  • MrsMandrelle Oct 25 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    I agree as a elem T. I have been working on reducing my wall clutter in recent years. Less is more. #miched
    • JonMVoss Oct 25 @ 8:34 PM EDT
      I was a secondary person, but I see a lot of elementary classrooms I find very busy visuallly, even as an adult. #miched
      In reply to @sgrant_phd
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A5. Drop the words with super aroused students (fear and terror). Stressed out brains can’t access language. #miched
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Q5: What strategies do you feel we need to use with escalated students? #miched
  • AnnSmart17 Oct 25 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A4: I think just looking a kid in the eyes to let them know you care, as bad as they may behave, goes a long way. #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A5. Match volume, intensity, & speed (not emotion) to connect and show you get it and to get noticed! #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A5. Suggestions: distract, offer food/drink, music, stay close #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A5. Calmer students (alarm, maybe fear) can benefit from more traditional coping skills. Not fully aroused students. #miched
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    I would not have thought to match volume. Love having an expert here for #miched
    In reply to @sgrant_phd
  • JonMVoss Oct 25 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    Tougher still as a tall male. We have to work even harder to soften our persona, right @dtelgenhof? #miched
    In reply to @tmaynard5, @dtelgenhof, @corytimmer, @dtelgenhof
  • dtelgenhof Oct 25 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    Coaching 101. Same thing we should do on the b-ball court I’ve learned. :) #miched
    In reply to @JonMVoss, @corytimmer
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A5. Coping skills are best as prevention not intervention. Otherwise you’ll get the stress ball thrown at you! #miched
  • JacobaMead Oct 25 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    #miched A4: teach deep pressure techniques, allow walks, talk through heightened emotions 1-on-1, allow alone time with calming toys, ...
  • AnnSmart17 Oct 25 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A5: Well, in my sons class right now its to get all the kids out of the room as quickly as possible when Ss starts to escalate :( #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    Sorry! Computer froze! #miched
  • dtelgenhof Oct 25 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    For sure. #miched
    In reply to @JonMVoss, @tmaynard5, @corytimmer
  • HollyBoehle Oct 25 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Joining in the conversation! #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    It's safer. Though unfortunate. #miched
    In reply to @AnnSmart17
  • conrad_chris Oct 25 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Often I'm sitting against wall with a S or kneeling by side of the desk. Fronts of my shoes wear out! Tall is tough. #miched
    In reply to @JonMVoss, @tmaynard5, @dtelgenhof, @corytimmer
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    We just posted Q5. https://t.co/0RsvHivFSR Welcome to #miched
    In reply to @HollyBoehle
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    But I've seen huge men do this better than tiny women. #miched
    In reply to @JonMVoss, @tmaynard5, @dtelgenhof, @corytimmer
  • JonMVoss Oct 25 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A5: Don't engage in a battle of wills. You don't have to win. #miched
  • danieltmares Oct 25 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    Stay calm. Approach calmly. Meet on their level. Listen. Brainstorm solutions. Let them develop their own. Protect their dignity in front of peers when ever possoble #michED
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    I like your last statement - protect their dignity in front of peers. #powerful #huge #miched
    In reply to @danieltmares
  • tchalmer_t Oct 25 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A5: I wonder if teachers need to practice these calming skills/techniques before a situation occurs. #miched
  • MrsMandrelle Oct 25 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    If they allow-touch is huge. A firm hand massage with calm soothing voice can help bring down levels. Positive sensory input. #miched
    • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:40 PM EDT
      Q5: What strategies do you feel we need to use with escalated students? #miched
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    Q5b: What strategies do you use to NOT get escalated as a teacher? #miched
  • corytimmer Oct 25 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    That's the other important and super difficult piece to keep in mind-balancing the needs of the other 28 Ss! #miched
    In reply to @AnnSmart17
  • jhubb546 Oct 25 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    That feeling when you get some blog ideas and want to write but know you have to get ready for tomorrow #teacherlife #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A5. Ditch the full classroom or school wide behavior management plans. If you need something, make it individualized. #miched
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    Wouldn't hurt! #miched
    In reply to @tchalmer_t
  • AnnSmart17 Oct 25 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    Yes! Have a place from them to destress! A playdo station or Makerspace area.#miched
    • JacobaMead Oct 25 @ 8:41 PM EDT
      #miched A4: teach deep pressure techniques, allow walks, talk through heightened emotions 1-on-1, allow alone time with calming toys, ...
  • HollyBoehle Oct 25 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A5. I instinctually grow calmer and quieter when students escalate. #miched
  • danieltmares Oct 25 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    You really have to. I frequently conversed in hallway with students #michED
    In reply to @tmaynard5
  • conrad_chris Oct 25 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A5: I need to walk away when S is escalating. Also will let Ss walk hall (or go to office-non discipline) to calm down. #miched
  • AnnSmart17 Oct 25 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    Same here. I guess working with troubled Ss I found quickly it only made it worse. #miched
    • HollyBoehle Oct 25 @ 8:45 PM EDT
      A5. I instinctually grow calmer and quieter when students escalate. #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    Most people do. But the opposite tends to be more helpful if we're in trauma mode. For a simply anxious kid it can make it worse. #miched
    In reply to @HollyBoehle
  • HollyBoehle Oct 25 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    Remembering it's not about you, don't take it personally. #miched
    In reply to @tmaynard5
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    yes - that is hard to do sometimes. #miched
    In reply to @HollyBoehle
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Great idea. #miched
    In reply to @tchalmer_t
  • MrCoughlin Oct 25 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    #miched #edtech MyHomework Student Planner - MyHomework is a digital student planner which can be used on virtu... https://t.co/VomrYbs5mf
  • danieltmares Oct 25 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A5b: trying to win. Staying on power Trip. Not recognizing individual S and their circumstances. Not acknowledging the S's needs. #michED
  • PCCSedTech Oct 25 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    #miched #mypccs #pccs #edtech MyHomework Student Planner - MyHomework is a digital student planner which can be... https://t.co/4l92f7berD
  • JonMVoss Oct 25 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A5b: The teaching of @sgrant_phd is a good place to start. So helpful to realize what is going on in the minds of Ss from trauma. #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    I always have a reminder in my head of where they came from. That's it not to hurt me...it's to protect them. So different. #miched
    In reply to @tmaynard5
  • corytimmer Oct 25 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    I think some Ts need to know its ok to not always win-other Ss won't suddenly misbehave if we let something go with 1 student. #miched
    In reply to @JonMVoss
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    Q6: What strategies do you feel we need to use with SHUT-DOWN students? #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    WHAT?! Teaching isn't about winning?! J/K I have to teach parents the same thing. #miched
    In reply to @corytimmer, @JonMVoss
  • tchalmer_t Oct 25 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A5b Remembering it isn't about defiance but about deficits. #miched
  • conrad_chris Oct 25 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    Q5b: I try to never "get angry". My reactions to situations always happen before I'm mad. #miched
  • dtelgenhof Oct 25 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    Just like I have to parent each of my own kids differently based on their personalities. Boundaries are clear with high standards but managing the boundaries may be personalized. #miched
    In reply to @sgrant_phd
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A6. Find ways to get them activated. Think movement and motion. #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A6. When you need them to engage, have them tap, stomp, wiggle, fidget, etc. And don’t let them stop. #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A6. Pay attention to when they do stop (freeze/run) and you can zero in on what’s causing stress. #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A6. Stay playful–don’t force it. Nicely tease/pester to communicate you’re not going anywhere & aren’t going to let them shut down. #miched
  • JonMVoss Oct 25 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    "Nothing more unequal than the equal treatment of unequals" -- Joe Bechard, likely not on Twitter #miched
    In reply to @dtelgenhof, @sgrant_phd
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A6. If they crawl under a desk, give them their work there! Or join them. #miched
  • conrad_chris Oct 25 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A5b: Lots of empathy. #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    It's not "won't" it's "can't" #miched
    In reply to @tchalmer_t
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    How do you get them to even pick up a pencil and write? ... I like all your ideas and will be trying them tomorrow! #miched
    In reply to @sgrant_phd
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    Fair isn't everyone getting the same thing. It's everyone getting what they need to be successful. #miched
    In reply to @JonMVoss, @dtelgenhof
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    Can honestly say I've had that before. #miched
    In reply to @sgrant_phd
  • danieltmares Oct 25 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    A6: find the motivator. Get them to work towards it. Whether it's sports, games or something else. Build relationships to get to know how you can support and go. Sometimes, it's the smallest things! #michED
  • HollyBoehle Oct 25 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A6. @sgrant_phd So follow the student's lead and be persistent in engaging him? #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    The shut down students? Sometimes I tease them playfully until they do it. Almost like a 5 year old kid would tease. #miched
    In reply to @tmaynard5
  • corytimmer Oct 25 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    So good. Is there a flashing sign I can buy and hang in my classroom with this on it? #miched
    • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:47 PM EDT
      I always have a reminder in my head of where they came from. That's it not to hurt me...it's to protect them. So different. #miched
      In reply to @tmaynard5
  • JonMVoss Oct 25 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A6: Offer choices, but that will only work if you have established a relationship of trust. #miched
  • blocht574 Oct 25 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A5: plan old persistence! Just don’t give up or show you are frustrated #miched
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    Yes - the shut-down ones. I'll try that tomorrow. #fingerscrossed #miched
    In reply to @sgrant_phd
  • tchalmer_t Oct 25 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    Q6: Never, ever give up on them. Connect personally before connecting academically. #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    Often students with trauma histories find choice very overwhelming. The grass is always greener. Limiting can be better. #miched
    In reply to @JonMVoss
  • conrad_chris Oct 25 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A6: Need to engage shut-down students at the most basic "welcome". Build trust can help Ss start back up. #miched
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A6: Don't show frustration. I don't know about others, but this is key for me. #miched
    • blocht574 Oct 25 @ 8:53 PM EDT
      A5: plan old persistence! Just don’t give up or show you are frustrated #miched
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    Last question coming up #miched ...
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    If I had to summarize, yes. I care too much to let it go. #miched
    In reply to @HollyBoehle
  • danieltmares Oct 25 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    I want to keep hitting the like button! #Truth #michED
    In reply to @tchalmer_t
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    Q7: What supports could you go back to your school and ask for to help students with trauma brain? #miched
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    This is me all night #miched So much good being shared here this evening!
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    A7. Here is one of my favorite books for early childhood and elementary school teachers. #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    A7. Here is one of my favorite books for middle school/high school teachers. #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    A7. Maybe a bit of insight from a post I wrote earlier this fall. #miched
  • conrad_chris Oct 25 @ 8:56 PM EDT
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    A7. Three awesome brief videos for later: https://t.co/I3axRyZikn #miched
  • MrsMandrelle Oct 25 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    A7: A quiet low-stim room. A safe place to get away and defuse! #miched
    • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:54 PM EDT
      Q7: What supports could you go back to your school and ask for to help students with trauma brain? #miched
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    A7. And this video will rock your socks off! https://t.co/XP8KZXXfId #miched
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    This would be a great thing to have in all schools! #miched
    In reply to @MrsMandrelle
  • AnnSmart17 Oct 25 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    I have about 12 screen shots on my desktop right now! Good stuff! #miched
  • HollyBoehle Oct 25 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    A7. Awesome resources, @sgrant_phd. Thank you! #miched
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    #miched is like drinking from a firehose tonight. SO many ideas, resources and things to take in! Yowzers!
  • JonMVoss Oct 25 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    I hope at one point during the day that child says "there is [insert teacher name]. I know he/she cares about me. Only a hope. #miched
    In reply to @sgrant_phd
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    A7. As a reminder, here is my contact information: Stephanie Grant, sgrant@debh.org, 616-499-2218. https://t.co/qOGlbB4XzN #miched
  • MrsMandrelle Oct 25 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    Our library and librarian are the calmest place. She is great at taking those kids under her care. #compassion #miched
    In reply to @tmaynard5
  • tmaynard5 Oct 25 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Ours too! She rocks @Creekside_MS #miched
    In reply to @MrsMandrelle, @Creekside_MS
  • sgrant_phd Oct 25 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Twitter has kicked me off twice for going too fast. I've had to log back in. #miched
    In reply to @tmaynard5
  • JonMVoss Oct 25 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Thank you @tmaynard5 and @sgrant_phd! #miched
  • AnnSmart17 Oct 25 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Thanks Tara and Stephanie this will be great stuff for my new teacher group! #miched