#memspachat Archive

A chat for Principals, Administrators & Lead Educators. Come join the Collaboration and Learning THURSDAY'S at 8pm ET.

Thursday November 9, 2017
8:00 PM EST

  • MEMSPAchat Nov 9 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Come join #MEMSPAchat - a leading ed chat starts now! @Saskedchat #SASKchat Join the leading, learning & collaboration!
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Welcome All. Paul Liabenow, MEMSPA Exec Director, checking in as your Moderator for the night. Excited to lead tonight's chat! #MEMSPAchat
  • participatechat Nov 9 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Participate in the upcoming #memspachat by sharing resources and collaborating at https://t.co/zzzRArdbTz
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Paul Liabenow here. Welcome everyone. Thanks for joining us tonight! #MEMSPAchat
  • MrDomagalski - Moderator Nov 9 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Mike Domagalski - Checking into #MEMSPAchat now! Middle School Level Principal.
  • PrincipalStager Nov 9 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Happy Thursday! Theresa Stager from Saline, MI #MEMSPAChat
  • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Hi #MEMSPAchat Tim Lyman - Joining from Waverly #waverlyelmwood Glad to be here!
  • mollyfunk Nov 9 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Hi everyone! Molly here, Ed Consultant, Principal mentor, Literacy Leader, always learning. Glad to be back with you tonight. #MEMSPAchat
  • secorsig Nov 9 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Andy, Elementary principal from Hudsonville excited to engage with my PLN #MEMSPAchat
  • mingchri Nov 9 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Hello #MEMSPAchat . Chris Ming - Middle School Principal jumping on the chat for a bit tonight. Hoping my eyes really aren't seeing snow falling right now.
  • PrincipalFrench Nov 9 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Hello, #MEMSPAchat, Mark here, elementary principal in Hopkins, MN.
  • HarvestLearning Nov 9 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Happy Thursday! Betty, Harvest Elementary in Saline. #MEMSPAchat
  • rewiredprinK2 Nov 9 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Derek Wheaton in the house! Great to see our leader moderating! #MEMSPAchat
  • MisterAlbrecht Nov 9 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Bill Albrecht middle school AP looking forward to learn a few things #MEMSPAchat
  • benjamingilpin Nov 9 @ 8:02 PM EST
    #MEMSPAchat Ben, Spring Arbor, MI
  • TLiMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Hello Everyone! Amie checking in, just got home from Conferences. Great to see our Leader Leading us tonight! #MEMSPAchat
  • davidsimpson512 - Moderator Nov 9 @ 8:02 PM EST
    David Simpson from @NHMSHuskies in Forest Hills! In and out w/conferences #memspachat
  • BillK76 Nov 9 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Greetings #MEMSPAchat peps! Glad to finally be back in the chat! Bill, Principal @YaleElmBulldogs
  • RickJetter Nov 9 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Snow in Buffalo too! #memspachat
    • mingchri Nov 9 @ 8:02 PM EST
      Hello #MEMSPAchat . Chris Ming - Middle School Principal jumping on the chat for a bit tonight. Hoping my eyes really aren't seeing snow falling right now.
  • NoviAcademics Nov 9 @ 8:03 PM EST
    RJ from Novi...I hope all is well for those in #MEMSPAchat 🌎
  • HarvestLearning Nov 9 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Loving the full house on #MEMSPAchat tonight.
  • HERprincipal Nov 9 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Brrr...Laura Washington from Saline, MI Good evening everyone! #MEMSPAchat
  • mingchri Nov 9 @ 8:03 PM EST
    I was under the impression that it snowed year-round in Buffalo #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @RickJetter
  • PrincipalFrench Nov 9 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Yes, we've had some snow. Cold with strong winds today. #MEMSPAchat
    • MrDomagalski - Moderator Nov 9 @ 8:02 PM EST
      Welcome@ Glad to see you on! This is surely going to be a great chat! Any snow yet???
      In reply to @PrincipalFrench
  • MrDomagalski - Moderator Nov 9 @ 8:04 PM EST
    So many great participants on #MEMSPAchat so far tonight and it's not even 8:05pm yet! Soooo excited!!!
  • brostromda Nov 9 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Danelle from Traverse City checking in for #MEMSPAchat!!!
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Welcome @RickJetter. Love your posts this week. #MEMSPAchat
  • PrincipalStager Nov 9 @ 8:04 PM EST
    .@brostromda long time no chat! So glad you're here! #MEMSPAChat
    In reply to @brostromda
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Q1 up in 2 minutes. #MEMSPAchat
  • lmcdonell14 Nov 9 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Laura McDonell, Saint Clair #MEMSPAchat
  • RickJetter Nov 9 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Rick from Buffalo, NY. Author of the Dunk Tank #tlap #sldunktank #memspachat
  • RickJetter Nov 9 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Thanks Paul! #memspachat
  • Vincethewriter Nov 9 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Vincent Taylor, academic coach, and my first chat. #MEMSPAchat
  • CraigMcCalla24 Nov 9 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Craig McCalla joining from Dexter. Happy Thursday everyone! #MEMSPAChat
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Dialig in from Starbucks in Millford on way back to Lansing. Let it snow. Got wifi! #MEMSPAchat
  • mingchri Nov 9 @ 8:06 PM EST
    First chat? Well, you picked a good one. Welcome! #memspachat
    In reply to @Vincethewriter
  • MEMSPAchat Nov 9 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Here we go! Excited for the first question on #MEMSPAchat Take it away with @PaulLiabenow at the lead tonight!
  • mschulte50 Nov 9 @ 8:07 PM EST
    #memspachat Mike from Beer Middle School in Warren checking in after a great day of learning.
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Q1: What is the teacher shortage status from your perspective and why? #MEMSPAchat
  • SalineMiddleAP Nov 9 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Emily joining in from Saline #MEMSPAChat
  • TLiMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Welcome! So great to hear you are joining us for your first chat. It's a great place to learn-friendly crew here. #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @Vincethewriter
  • TLiMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Hi Mike- I hope all is well for you. #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @mschulte50
  • MEMSPAchat Nov 9 @ 8:08 PM EST
    QUESTION 1 just posted below on #MEMSPAchat - @PaulLiabenow is our lead moderator! "Teacher Shortage & Principal Turnover" is the Topic tonight!
  • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:08 PM EST
    A1: We are losing vets and hiring like crazy. The pool is thin and it takes some careful selection to hire the best #memspachat
  • BuckmasterKelly Nov 9 @ 8:08 PM EST
    Hello! Kelly from Cadillac #MEMSPAchat
  • ForestPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:08 PM EST
    A1: $$$$$$$$$$$$$ #MEMSPAchat
  • rewiredprinK2 Nov 9 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Many principals reporting less selection, not as desirable candidates in the pool #MEMSPAchat
  • mingchri Nov 9 @ 8:09 PM EST
    A1: teacher shortage = the scary and predictable result of years of negative legislation and ill-conceived ideas #memspachat
  • CraigMcCalla24 Nov 9 @ 8:09 PM EST
    A1: Fewer people heading into education due to decrease of benefits and pay. #MEMSPAChat
  • ForestPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:09 PM EST
    #memspachat . Grib from Riverview. What's Up!?!?!?
  • PrincipalStager Nov 9 @ 8:09 PM EST
    A1: I feel many teachers are leaving and/or potential not joining the field because of public perception/pushback. #MEMSPAChat
  • mschulte50 Nov 9 @ 8:09 PM EST
    #memspachat All is well. Hope the same for you. Can't wait to see you in December.
    In reply to @TLiMPrincipal
  • SISDInstruction Nov 9 @ 8:09 PM EST
    A1: Frightening for lack of a better term. Shallow pool and low participation in teacher prep programs #memspachat #sisdchat
  • benjamingilpin Nov 9 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Teacher shortage will be a huge deal in 3-5 years for everyone. Right now not everyone is feeling it. #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @PaulLiabenow
  • brostromda Nov 9 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Q1. So much pressure to get the scores, not always about the kids. Teachers don't always feel empowered. #MEMSPAchat
  • cwoolman06 Nov 9 @ 8:09 PM EST
    A1: Hello everyone! Checking in for the chat and looking at snow! #MEMSPAchat
  • BuckmasterKelly Nov 9 @ 8:09 PM EST
    A1: we hired 32 teachers this summer, it took us all summer to interview and find the right candidates #MEMSPAchat
  • mollyfunk Nov 9 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Absolutely Rebekah! #memspachat
  • lmcdonell14 Nov 9 @ 8:09 PM EST
    A1) starting to become a struggle to fill jobs since the jobs is not one that is always recommended by as many people. #MEMSPAchat
  • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:10 PM EST
    turth #memspachat It also means we need to do a great job of educating the newbies and letting them go if they aren't enough
    In reply to @mingchri
  • MrDomagalski - Moderator Nov 9 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1: Public perception / high demands not enough pay per other jobs available. Legislatures not making it equitable. #MEMSPAchat
  • RickJetter Nov 9 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1: In NY State, the teaching profession is villainized by the media and STEM careers in the business sector are being sought after by loads of graduates. #memspachat
  • TLiMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1 Less applicants going into Field of Education, a shortage of Student Interns and less subs available. Why? Burn out being shared w/ young prospects. #MEMSPAchat
  • PrincipalStager Nov 9 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1: Many positions we tried to fill had very few applicants.... #MEMSPAChat
  • secorsig Nov 9 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1: The teacher shortage is the trickle-down effect of teachers are viewed, valued, and supported in our current climate. It makes the profession less-appealing to many #MEMSPAchat
  • HarvestLearning Nov 9 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1: With the attack on education everywhere we turn what is the incentive to enter the profession? Universities need to change too. #MEMSPAchat
  • cwoolman06 Nov 9 @ 8:11 PM EST
    A1: Feom a hiring perspective there are fewer candidates for openings and good candidates are going to the districts who can pay more #MEMSPAchat
  • mollyfunk Nov 9 @ 8:11 PM EST
    An also its really hard. Not a cushy job, comes with a lot of compassion fatigue too! #memspachat
    • TLiMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:10 PM EST
      A1 Less applicants going into Field of Education, a shortage of Student Interns and less subs available. Why? Burn out being shared w/ young prospects. #MEMSPAchat
  • NoviAcademics Nov 9 @ 8:11 PM EST
    A1 The teacher shortage emanates from lack of support/respect from legislature, ROI for degree, increased demands upon teachers #MEMSPAchat
  • mingchri Nov 9 @ 8:11 PM EST
    True, but we also need to find more creative ways to entice people to go into the field and get into the programs #memspachat
    In reply to @tlyman1976
  • Syndee_Sue Nov 9 @ 8:11 PM EST
    A1) #memspachat I’m hearing districts a short. Principals are having to sub also.
  • mschulte50 Nov 9 @ 8:11 PM EST
    #memspachat A1:Fewer people going into the profession, due to pay, job prospects, and lack of respect from politicians.
  • RickJetter Nov 9 @ 8:11 PM EST
    Hey JG! #MEMSPAChat
    In reply to @ForestPrincipal
  • davidsimpson512 - Moderator Nov 9 @ 8:11 PM EST
    A1: As a society we have devalued and attacked public school teachers! They are heroes in our society. When we take away salary/benefits...why would people want to teach? #memspachat
  • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:12 PM EST
    without a doubt #memspachat
    In reply to @mingchri
  • TLiMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:12 PM EST
    Yes, public perception has not been in a good place for education for a while. #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @PrincipalStager
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:12 PM EST
    Truth! #memspachat
    In reply to @secorsig
  • SalineMiddleAP Nov 9 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1) we are losing the beautiful art of teaching #MEMSPAChat
  • rewiredprinK2 Nov 9 @ 8:12 PM EST
    And student loan debt with less pay and more benefits and no pension means you can't make a living! #memspachat
    In reply to @secorsig
  • mingchri Nov 9 @ 8:12 PM EST
    Contacting your legistlators is a start. They need to know what we are seeing on the front line and that what they say and do and enact has a real (negative) impact on the future of MI ss #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @MEMSPAchat
  • BillK76 Nov 9 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1. Fear the massive drop in education programs will have a massive and long lasting affect. New Ts can't/don't want to handle the stress for the low starting pay. Along with the negative public image about Ts & education. #MEMSPAchat
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:13 PM EST
    Q2 up in 1 minute. #MEMSPAchat
  • MisterAlbrecht Nov 9 @ 8:13 PM EST
    A1 I'm wondering if teacher prep programs need some TLC and if that would help? Poor legislation doesn't help either #MEMSPAchat
  • mollyfunk Nov 9 @ 8:13 PM EST
    They want to do well.. They don’t know what they don’t know and we have to educate them. #memspachat
    • mingchri Nov 9 @ 8:12 PM EST
      Contacting your legistlators is a start. They need to know what we are seeing on the front line and that what they say and do and enact has a real (negative) impact on the future of MI ss #MEMSPAchat
      In reply to @MEMSPAchat
  • RickJetter Nov 9 @ 8:13 PM EST
    Hey greatness! #MEMSPAChat
    In reply to @Syndee_Sue
  • SISDInstruction Nov 9 @ 8:13 PM EST
    A1: Debate in our region: It is hard to fill the STEM pipeline when you don't have teachers to teach math, science, and tech #memspachat #sisdchat
  • vickilwilson5 Nov 9 @ 8:13 PM EST
    @MEMSPAchat A1: Shortage is real. Teachers leaving field is a contributing factor. Do people encourage the field? #memspachat
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:14 PM EST
    Q2: In your opinion, why do principals leave the profession and what can we do to fix this? #MEMSPAchat
  • RickJetter Nov 9 @ 8:14 PM EST
    Hi JM!! #MEMSPAChat
    In reply to @JulieMytych
  • PrincipalStager Nov 9 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A1: Teacher prep programs are dwindling as well for many reasons...#MEMSPAChat
  • mingchri Nov 9 @ 8:14 PM EST
    Agreed, but they also need to listen. Too often when you talk to your elected officials they want to convince you of THEIR views. They need to be responsive to ours #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @mollyfunk
  • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:15 PM EST
    #MEMSPAchat
    • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:15 PM EST
      A2:It is so difficult...and like young teachers you have no idea what you are walking into...Truly walking into. It stresses personal life, marriages, family...But it is so worth it!
  • rewiredprinK2 Nov 9 @ 8:15 PM EST
    A2: Plain and simple, no support, lack of mentoring, and JOB IMPOSSIBLE! #memspachat
  • mollyfunk Nov 9 @ 8:15 PM EST
    Same thing: An also its really hard. Complex, challenging comes with a lot of compassion fatigue too! #memspachat
    • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:14 PM EST
      Q2: In your opinion, why do principals leave the profession and what can we do to fix this? #MEMSPAchat
  • brostromda Nov 9 @ 8:15 PM EST
    Q2. I think we need to do the same for principals that we should be doing for teachers...hire good people and then get out of their way. Let them do their thing. They will rock it if you give them that freedom. #MEMSPAchat
  • MEMSPAchat Nov 9 @ 8:15 PM EST
    QUESTION 2 just posted by the fearless leader of @MEMSPA on tonight's #MEMSPAchat Great work everyone.
    • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:14 PM EST
      Q2: In your opinion, why do principals leave the profession and what can we do to fix this? #MEMSPAchat
  • benjamingilpin Nov 9 @ 8:15 PM EST
    Principals leave because of more and more responsibilities and less and less support. #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @PaulLiabenow
  • BillK76 Nov 9 @ 8:15 PM EST
    #MEMSPAchat (rusty)
    • BillK76 Nov 9 @ 8:15 PM EST
      A1. lack of young teachers to sub is a big problem as well, especially when you don't life in an area close to a college with a teaching program.
  • NoviAcademics Nov 9 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A2 Being a principal can be the ultimate "middle management" position, pressure from below/beside/above/outside. #MEMSPAchat
  • PrincipalStager Nov 9 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A2: Strong network and team are very important. A tough job, but if everyone is in it for the same goal, it definitely helps. #MEMSPAChat
  • RachelACard Nov 9 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A1: Teacher salaries are not commensurate with salaries of positions in other professions requiring same amount of education. #MEMSPAchat
  • mollyfunk Nov 9 @ 8:16 PM EST
    Great point...And we need to mentor and support them like we do other educators. #memspachat
    • brostromda Nov 9 @ 8:15 PM EST
      Q2. I think we need to do the same for principals that we should be doing for teachers...hire good people and then get out of their way. Let them do their thing. They will rock it if you give them that freedom. #MEMSPAchat
  • mschulte50 Nov 9 @ 8:16 PM EST
    #memspachat A1. Not only are the beginning years incredibly demanding, many new districts have frozen salaries. College grads can make more $$, for less work in other professions.
  • BuckmasterKelly Nov 9 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A2: unrealistic view of what the job is, overwhelming hours and expectations, not feeling supported #MEMSPAchat
  • MrDomagalski - Moderator Nov 9 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A2: Over worked, underpaid, under appreciated, other opportunity making similar/more money by with less responsibility or demanding work... #MEMSPAchat
    • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:14 PM EST
      Q2: In your opinion, why do principals leave the profession and what can we do to fix this? #MEMSPAchat
  • HERprincipal Nov 9 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A1: Incentives have been taken away i.e. retirement, no more buying years, insurance is not as attractive. Used to make pay not as meaningful, but now important #MEMSPAchat
  • TLiMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A2 Sooo many hats to wear. Great admiration for Ps in smaller districts where job is so full it's hard to feel success. Work-Life Balance is tough #MEMSPAchat
  • crystaleskin Nov 9 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A2: Feeling alone without support #MEMSPAchat
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:17 PM EST
    WE need to support and mentor new principals from day 1.#MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @brostromda
  • SalineMiddleAP Nov 9 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A2: it can be incredibly lonely. We need to be visible and pushy in creating admin professional learning networks (like this one!!) #MEMSPAChat
    • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:14 PM EST
      Q2: In your opinion, why do principals leave the profession and what can we do to fix this? #MEMSPAchat
  • ForestPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A2: They are leaving because of the astronomical amount pressure that is being put upon them from the State and the stakeholders and not receiving the necessary support. #MEMSPAchat
    • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:14 PM EST
      Q2: In your opinion, why do principals leave the profession and what can we do to fix this? #MEMSPAchat
  • mingchri Nov 9 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A2: Principals want to help ts and ss learn, why they get into the position. Now, we are being asked to do so many things that take away from the fundamental purpose of our position. Lonely and difficult job #MEMSPAchat
  • davidsimpson512 - Moderator Nov 9 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A2: Principals leave because of stress, complexities of the job, and lack of efficacy that their work can make a difference. Joining @MEMSPA can combat all of this! #memspachat
  • JerichoMS Nov 9 @ 8:17 PM EST
    It is such a hard job! #memspachat support the work
  • donald_gately Nov 9 @ 8:17 PM EST
    It is such a hard job! #memspachat support the work
  • RickJetter Nov 9 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A2: I’m pretty biased in my answer, but there is political dunking going on at all levels across the nation and when support becomes a competition, school leaders often feel pressure from the top down and bottom up. #memspachat
    • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:14 PM EST
      Q2: In your opinion, why do principals leave the profession and what can we do to fix this? #MEMSPAchat
  • secorsig Nov 9 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A2: I️ think a lot of principals become disconnected with the vision of the board and/or the administration. It’s not what they got into the profession for and find their philosophies out of alignment #MEMSPAchat
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:18 PM EST
    Hours of Teacher evaluation sucking the life out of many! #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @BuckmasterKelly
  • dougammeraal Nov 9 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A2: Lack of gratitude and authentic appreciation for the work. We have to speak about our profession in a positive light, support each other, and work efficiently. #MEMSPAchat
    • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:14 PM EST
      Q2: In your opinion, why do principals leave the profession and what can we do to fix this? #MEMSPAchat
  • cwoolman06 Nov 9 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A2: Burnout and feeling unsupported are leading causes. We need to support and empower new administrators #MEMSPAChat
  • HarvestLearning Nov 9 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A2: Isolation, lack of mentoring/support, forced into compliance rather than leading learning. The list goes on and on. #MEMSPAchat
    • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:14 PM EST
      Q2: In your opinion, why do principals leave the profession and what can we do to fix this? #MEMSPAchat
  • NoviAcademics Nov 9 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A2 I also believe, with all due respect, we are ALL educators...not Teachers, Principals or Central Office...enough self segregation #MEMSPAchat
  • dean_kramer1 Nov 9 @ 8:18 PM EST
    Dean Kramer checking in from Hamilton. Better late than never. #MEMSPAchat
  • Vincethewriter Nov 9 @ 8:18 PM EST
    Teaching isn’t marketed in an appealing way. A novel profession is all that’s promoted. #MEMSPAchat
  • CraigMcCalla24 Nov 9 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A2: Lack of mentoring, support, and time for it all. Principals must take time to support each other. #MEMSPAchat
  • SalineMiddleAP Nov 9 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A2) also, as admin, start to mentor and support our teacher leaders as they consider "next steps" @HarvestLearning was instrumental in my leap from the classroom to admin #MEMSPAChat
    • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:14 PM EST
      Q2: In your opinion, why do principals leave the profession and what can we do to fix this? #MEMSPAchat
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:19 PM EST
    Q3 up in one minute! Love the feedback. #MEMSPAchat
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:19 PM EST
    WE must tell the story of the amazing selfless work you all do! #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @dougammeraal
  • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A2: We are also forces at times to fight against programs and initiatives we know will fail because they are top down...It's draining to constantly fight #memspachat
  • PrincipalStager Nov 9 @ 8:19 PM EST
    We are fortunate that those who really love to teach are still here....but the shortage is exhausting. #MEMSPAChat
    In reply to @MEMSPAchat
  • donald_gately Nov 9 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A2 i have a great deal of support -- thnx @HankGrishman -- but it's still a tough job -- principal's need to feel purpose --- #MEMSPAChat
  • PrincipalFrench Nov 9 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A2) Feeling isolated, unsupported. Keep making connections to learn from each other. #MEMSPAChat
    • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:14 PM EST
      Q2: In your opinion, why do principals leave the profession and what can we do to fix this? #MEMSPAchat
  • SISDInstruction Nov 9 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A2: Minimal mentor programs, lack of structures internal to support transitions of leaders. Just as hard on the staff #sisdchat #memspachat
  • mschulte50 Nov 9 @ 8:19 PM EST
    #memspachat A2: They leave because the rewards are no longer outweighing the costs ( Long hours, little support, staff making more $$ than they do)
  • TLiMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:19 PM EST
    Unfortunately, I think this is often true. #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @BuckmasterKelly
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:20 PM EST
    Q3: What supports do teachers need to be successful? #MEMSPAchat
  • HarvestLearning Nov 9 @ 8:20 PM EST
    This is why I desire to be more involved in #MEMSPA at both the Region & State level. I need my #MEMSPAchat friends and more.
    In reply to @CraigMcCalla24
  • mingchri Nov 9 @ 8:20 PM EST
    It is amazing that in a position surrounded by people all day, everyday that this job can be painfully lonely. That is one reason this #MEMSPAchat is so important!
  • donistamour Nov 9 @ 8:20 PM EST
    Yes! Studies show that if supported more stay past their 3rd year and have the skills to succeed. #MEMSPAChat
    • mollyfunk Nov 9 @ 8:16 PM EST
      Great point...And we need to mentor and support them like we do other educators. #memspachat
      • brostromda Nov 9 @ 8:15 PM EST
        Q2. I think we need to do the same for principals that we should be doing for teachers...hire good people and then get out of their way. Let them do their thing. They will rock it if you give them that freedom. #MEMSPAchat
  • HERprincipal Nov 9 @ 8:20 PM EST
    A2: Simplistic answer: It is a lot and (can be) overwhelming! #MEMSPAchat
  • bradrobb Nov 9 @ 8:20 PM EST
    A2: Thin skin... overcome by mounting small problems. Facebook mafia. It’s not the kids I know that. #MEMSPAChat
    In reply to @PaulLiabenow
  • vickilwilson5 Nov 9 @ 8:20 PM EST
    A2:Threat of evaluation, afraid 2 take risks. We need 2 support new teachers & protect from the threats. Give safe time 2 grow. #MEMSPAchat
  • RickJetter Nov 9 @ 8:20 PM EST
    I see lots of “dunk-related” responses in Q2 from the crew. #MEMSPAChat
    In reply to @PaulLiabenow
  • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:21 PM EST
    #memspachat - Did it again - I think this is my first chat - today :)
    • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:21 PM EST
      A3: Great mentor teachers. Job emnedded PD, model lessons, opportunity to collaborate. Understanding principals who challenge and support. As @debbiemcfalone says a warm demander
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:21 PM EST
    True indeed. So lets celebrate the successes every day. #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @RickJetter
  • CraigMcCalla24 Nov 9 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A3: Ts need a solid mentoring program, time to collaborate with their grade level, opportunities to observe good teaching, and a clear district, curriculum path. #MEMSPAChat
  • elemz5 Nov 9 @ 8:22 PM EST
    It’s important to provide emotional support. This work is rigorous and forever changing. Ts need to know they have a safe place to be vulnerable, open, and honest. My office 🚪 is always open #MEMSPAchat
  • mattseverin Nov 9 @ 8:22 PM EST
    Had to bust out some #memspa swag tonight after PT conferences to find my car. Sorry to miss #memspachat @PaulLiabenow
  • TLiMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:22 PM EST
    YES! MEMSPA PD such as Leverage Leadership also is a great way to feel the support! #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @davidsimpson512, @MEMSPA
  • brostromda Nov 9 @ 8:22 PM EST
    Q3. Teachers need a safe place to fail. They need to be connected with others who will push their learning and aid in their growth. They need to feel supported and reminded to find balance outside of work. Again, this is for principals too. :) #MEMSPAchat
  • HarvestLearning Nov 9 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A3: Mentoring, Admin leadership & support to remove roadblocks, ability to be response what is best for their Ss. #MEMSPAchat
  • btenniswood Nov 9 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A3 Voice & choice. Freedom to fail forward. Differentiated professional learning and coaching. Opportunities to collaborate & examine practice. #MEMSPAchat
  • mschulte50 Nov 9 @ 8:23 PM EST
    #memspachat Great to see you again.
    In reply to @dean_kramer1
  • BillK76 Nov 9 @ 8:23 PM EST
    A2. The feeling of like no matter how much time and effort you put in, it will never be enough. There is ALWAYS something/someone else who wants or needs more time and effort. #MEMSPAchat
  • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:23 PM EST
    Love the idea of safe place to fail!!! How else will they learn? #memspachat
    In reply to @brostromda
  • lmcdonell14 Nov 9 @ 8:23 PM EST
    Q3) opportunities and support. Administrators who believe in them, get excited for them and are willing to let them try new things. #MEMSPAchat
  • RickJetter Nov 9 @ 8:23 PM EST
    A3: Teachers need to know that they are identity-in-the-making each day...they can mess up...practice...and shatter teacher myths of what perfection is. @aaron_hogan says it best! #memspachat
  • bradrobb Nov 9 @ 8:23 PM EST
    A3: Unassuming leadership. Appreciation- in a direct way. Pay in line with peers. #memspachat
    In reply to @PaulLiabenow
  • NoviAcademics Nov 9 @ 8:23 PM EST
    A3 Listening is an Act of Love...so important we all listen to each other. Buildings/organizations must be places where words are heard #MEMSPAchat
  • ForestPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:23 PM EST
    A3: Administrators that are up to date with educational trends and embrace educational technology that enhances Ss learning. So many Admins re not up to date and cannot be there to support them or allow them to take risks. #MEMSPAchat @sigad_macul
  • MEMSPAchat Nov 9 @ 8:23 PM EST
    QUESTION 3 has posted on #MEMSPAchat Remember to connect with at least 1 person on their comment. "Leading, Learning and Collaboration are keys!"
  • StacyWonfor Nov 9 @ 8:23 PM EST
    A3: Teachers need to be encouraged to try new things and supported through their successes and failures. They need to be valued as professionals. #MEMSPAchat
  • SISDInstruction Nov 9 @ 8:23 PM EST
    A3 Better teacher prep experiences, honest and thoughtful feedback from both peers and adminstrators, lessons on self-reflection #sisdchat #memspachat
  • Stavenski Nov 9 @ 8:23 PM EST
    A2: Principals are 🐒 in middle. W/o support at top & from below, life becomes bananas #MEMSPAChat
  • dougammeraal Nov 9 @ 8:23 PM EST
    A3: Gratitude. Instructional leadership. Perspective. Valued input. Authentic leadership. Remove hurdles. Fail-safe space. #MEMSPAchat
  • secorsig Nov 9 @ 8:24 PM EST
    A3: They need to feel valued, appreciated, and respected. T’s need to own the shared vision of the school. They need ownership and choice in their PD. T’s need time to plan, reflect, and learn from their colleagues #MEMSPAchat
  • RachelACard Nov 9 @ 8:24 PM EST
    A2: Barriers to learning (poverty, soc-emotional, mental illness)are increasing at same rate as pressure to produce results. #MEMSPAchat
  • elemz5 Nov 9 @ 8:24 PM EST
    I love the mention of the word ‘safe.’ Teachers deserve safety. Social, emotional, and physical safety #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @brostromda
  • donistamour Nov 9 @ 8:24 PM EST
    It is sad, but as George C says. We can write our own story! Let’s do it! #MEMSPAChat is a start. Love this PLN
    • HarvestLearning Nov 9 @ 8:10 PM EST
      A1: With the attack on education everywhere we turn what is the incentive to enter the profession? Universities need to change too. #MEMSPAchat
  • vickilwilson5 Nov 9 @ 8:24 PM EST
    A3: Risk free practice with frequent feedback - same as our students. #MEMSPAChat
  • ForestPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:24 PM EST
    Whoot whoot! @vickilwilson5 is on #memspachat
    • vickilwilson5 Nov 9 @ 8:20 PM EST
      A2:Threat of evaluation, afraid 2 take risks. We need 2 support new teachers & protect from the threats. Give safe time 2 grow. #MEMSPAchat
  • mingchri Nov 9 @ 8:24 PM EST
    Facebook mafia. That is a new one. My favorite is "keyboard warriors" #MEMSPAchat
    • bradrobb Nov 9 @ 8:20 PM EST
      A2: Thin skin... overcome by mounting small problems. Facebook mafia. It’s not the kids I know that. #MEMSPAChat
      In reply to @PaulLiabenow
  • brostromda Nov 9 @ 8:24 PM EST
    There is a principal in my district who is using Get Out of Fail Free cards. I love this idea to tangibly remind staff that they can..and will fail...and that it is OKAY. #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @tlyman1976
  • PrincipalStager Nov 9 @ 8:24 PM EST
    A3: That it's ok to fail. That we understand how hard the first year can be #MEMSPAChat
  • MisterAlbrecht Nov 9 @ 8:24 PM EST
    A3 constant coaching, relevant PD, a network of collaborative people, leaders that push the envelope, a mindset that moves with the cheese 🧀 #MEMSPAchat
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:25 PM EST
    Important to pace yourself. Rest brings new hope. #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @BillK76
  • benjamingilpin Nov 9 @ 8:25 PM EST
    Teachers need an environment that allows risk taking & failure. Vital for leaders to provide PD, support and encouragement. #MEMSPAchat
  • TLiMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:25 PM EST
    A3 Mentoring AND Coaching are essential. Teaching CAN be like Rocket Science. Coaching and supporting instruction is necessary. #MEMSPAchat
  • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:25 PM EST
    finding physical safety is tough - they get hit and kicked a lot these days. That is tough to support staff and our traumatized students #memspachat
    In reply to @elemz5, @brostromda
  • rewiredprinK2 Nov 9 @ 8:25 PM EST
    A3: A clear and implementable curriculum, knowledge and practice of teaching strategies, opportunities to collaborate-data dives, problem solve, provide resources-$, time, opportunities to observe each other, let them teach! #memspachat . #loving280characters!
  • MrDomagalski - Moderator Nov 9 @ 8:25 PM EST
    Hands on supports with new tech and educational trends as well. Be there for them, give honest feedback, follow up, again and again. #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @bradrobb, @PaulLiabenow
  • SISDInstruction Nov 9 @ 8:25 PM EST
    #memspachat Perspective is everything. Working on a county exchange programming. To many teachers living in a small bubble....
    In reply to @dougammeraal
  • PrincipalStager Nov 9 @ 8:25 PM EST
    A3: and some days the best part of the job is that your chair spins...and that's ok ;) #MEMSPAChat
  • GregJWolcott Nov 9 @ 8:25 PM EST
    A3: Ts need to feel they are making progress, having an impact and that what they do is worth more than the sum of the test scores they produce. #memspachat
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:26 PM EST
    Q4 up in 1 minute. #MEMSPAchat
  • mingchri Nov 9 @ 8:26 PM EST
    A3: Ts need to feel safe and supported; celebrated for their successes and valued for the contribution they make daily to the future of our ss #memspachat
  • TLiMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:26 PM EST
    Great points! #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @CraigMcCalla24
  • elemz5 Nov 9 @ 8:26 PM EST
    You’re absolutely right. That’s the tough balancing act we’re faced with #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @tlyman1976, @brostromda
  • SalineMiddleAP Nov 9 @ 8:26 PM EST
    Yes! Shower Ts with support so they can be risk takers! #MEMSPAChat
    In reply to @elemz5
  • BuckmasterKelly Nov 9 @ 8:26 PM EST
    A3: opportunity to collaborate, a safe environment to take risks, feedback & encouragement & recognition #MEMSPAchat
  • Stavenski Nov 9 @ 8:26 PM EST
    Sane is true for all Ts, not just new ones. Ok to fail if you learn from it and do things differently #MEMSPAChat
    In reply to @PrincipalStager
  • brostromda Nov 9 @ 8:26 PM EST
    Yes. They are holding our most precious thing...seriously, my kid's teachers see her more than I do most days. They deserve the world for loving my babies and helping me raise them. They deserve it all....safety, respect, comfort, balance, joy, money, etc.... #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @elemz5
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:27 PM EST
    Q4: What helps a principal succeed as a leader? #MEMSPAchat
  • btenniswood Nov 9 @ 8:27 PM EST
    A3: Agency, appreciation, growth mindset, collaboration are also critically important for principals. Worry that principals don't receive the supports they need to be successful as instructional leaders. #MEMSPAchat
  • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:27 PM EST
    I was talking about that with my SI team the other day...How can we welcome back to classes after they've had the "blow-up" #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @elemz5, @brostromda
  • MEMSPAchat Nov 9 @ 8:27 PM EST
    BOOM! Here's Question 4 on #MEMSPAchat
  • cwoolman06 Nov 9 @ 8:27 PM EST
    A3: Ts need support, resources and permission to try and fail. We need to give them tools and supports and then get out of the way #MEMSPAchat
  • RachelACard Nov 9 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A3: Coaching, materials, time to collab.,positive feedback, help with challenging Ss, permission to take care of themselves,too. #MEMSPAchat
  • donistamour Nov 9 @ 8:28 PM EST
    It does take a special person to be a principal. #MEMSPAChat
    • NoviAcademics Nov 9 @ 8:16 PM EST
      A2 Being a principal can be the ultimate "middle management" position, pressure from below/beside/above/outside. #MEMSPAchat
  • BillK76 Nov 9 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A3. Trust and opportunity to work and learn together. An understanding that they are doing the best they can. Trying our best to overwhelm them with too much to fast. #MEMSPAchat
  • NoviAcademics Nov 9 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A4 Principal must never become the sole source of "leadership", success comes in sharing the work and amplifying the shared success of the team #MEMSPAchat
  • HERprincipal Nov 9 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A3: Ts need great mentors, PD that is applicable, and an administrator who is supportive #MEMSPAchat
  • Vincethewriter Nov 9 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A3 Teachers need to be reassured they have the support of Ps to approach lessons in their creative ways as long as the standard is taught with fidelity. #MEMSPAchat
  • cwoolman06 Nov 9 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A4: Similar@to what a T needs admin need support, resources to grow and freedom to innovate #MEMSPAchat
  • RickJetter Nov 9 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A4: Short and sweet: Mentorship from an amazing, esteemed colleague. #MEMSPAChat
  • TLiMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:29 PM EST
    Wow- you fit a lot in that answer! All spot on! #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @dougammeraal
  • SISDInstruction Nov 9 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A4: Attending a Molly Funk session!!!! @mollyfunk #memspachat #sisdchat
  • Stavenski Nov 9 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A4: like Ts, Principals need support and feedback, both positive & constructive. It’s human nature. This is how we grow! #MEMSPAChat
  • MisterAlbrecht Nov 9 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A4 🥃 #MEMSPAchat
  • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A4: #MEMSPAchat Understanding they are NOT alone...MEMSPA, teacher leaders, new teachers given opportunity to lead...
  • PrincipalStager Nov 9 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A4: A strong social network and a strong network in-district. Having a team to bounce ideas off of and collaborate. #memspachat
  • ForestPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A4: I good release and support system. Need to be able to bounce ideas off of people and pick their brains. @Syndee_Sue @MrDomagalski @jon_wennstrom @benjamingilpin @JulieMytych @PaulLiabenow @vickilwilson5 @AllysonApsey @PostleBrown #memspachat
  • StacyWonfor Nov 9 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A4: Thick skin, quiet strength, ability to listen and not take things personally, #MEMSPAchat
  • bradrobb Nov 9 @ 8:29 PM EST
    #memspachat
    • bradrobb Nov 9 @ 8:28 PM EST
      A really, really solid AP. Right @MrDomagalski ? Also a good culture, and a staff receptiveness... great secretaries. Self awareness.
      In reply to @PaulLiabenow, @MrDomagalski
  • MrDomagalski - Moderator Nov 9 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A4: Following through and supporting the entire staff. Also, it's reciprocal... A supporting staff and enable a principal to succeed! Full circle. Must build that capacity! #MEMSPAchat
  • elemz5 Nov 9 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A4. Health, support, patience & understanding #MEMSPAchat
  • mollyfunk Nov 9 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A4: Great teachers and staff and team AND using research and standards to guide leadership practice. (PSEL, 2015) #memspachat
  • HarvestLearning Nov 9 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A4: Principal who is responsive to Ss, Ts, Parents. Develops relationships with them. Removes barriers for their Ts. Supports, supports, supports! #MEMSPAchat
  • RickJetter Nov 9 @ 8:29 PM EST
    Hi Doni! #memspachat
    In reply to @donistamour
  • cgphyland Nov 9 @ 8:29 PM EST
    Q2 An Australian survey of Prin’s showed stress, workload, bullying, violence, etc as being well above most other occupations. It’s a tough job! #MEMSPAchat https://t.co/FnJEmsgD0d
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Members: Our MEMSPA Lobby Day is Nov 30. Contact taryn@memspa.org to join me. You are the voice for your Ts and Ss. #MEMSPAchat
  • brostromda Nov 9 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Side note...anyone else feel like they are able to say SO MUCH MORE with the new Twitter limits??!! These new limits are AWESOME for Twitter chats! #MEMSPAchat
  • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Double-like #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @MisterAlbrecht
  • vickilwilson5 Nov 9 @ 8:30 PM EST
    A4: Trusted colleagues, desire to read & learn, supportive leadership. #MEMSPAChat
  • PrincipalStager Nov 9 @ 8:30 PM EST
    RT @vickilwilson5 A4: Trusted colleagues, desire to read & learn, supportive leadership. #MEMSPAChat
    In reply to @vickilwilson5
  • secorsig Nov 9 @ 8:30 PM EST
    A4: a teaching staff in the work for the right reasons. Parents who believe in and are supportive of the school. Administration that clearly defines expectations and provides support. Oh, and those amazing smiling faces we see each day!!!#MEMSPAchat
  • CraigMcCalla24 Nov 9 @ 8:30 PM EST
    A4: Growth mindset, being reflective, district support, collaborative people around them, sense of humor, compassion, a mentor to turn to, and a drive to make school a safe place for ALL Ss. #MEMSPAchat
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Provide time for Principal PD and networking with peers to share and learn from each other. Motivating! #MEMSPAchat
  • dougammeraal Nov 9 @ 8:30 PM EST
    A4: We need support, encouragement, and coaching/feedback from those who lead us. We need trust, valued success, and patience. We need leaders who will do whatever it takes for us! #MEMSPAchat
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Follow through is the key to building trusting relationships. #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @MrDomagalski
  • mingchri Nov 9 @ 8:31 PM EST
    A4: A sounding board for struggles and successes. Someone to bounce ideas off of and engage in professional dialogue. Someone who challenges you #memspachat
  • SISDInstruction Nov 9 @ 8:31 PM EST
    A4 Shared leadership. Wish I could go back in time and use this more! #sisdchat #memspachat
  • secorsig Nov 9 @ 8:31 PM EST
    A4: work/personal life balance #MEMSPAchat
  • mschulte50 Nov 9 @ 8:31 PM EST
    #memspachat A4: A strong support network of peers, friends, teachers, and bosses
  • RachelACard Nov 9 @ 8:32 PM EST
    A4: A united, dedicated, caring staff and supportive, uplifting administrative colleagues. Positive relationships w/ Ss and Ps. #MEMSPAchat
  • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:32 PM EST
    A4: #memspachat - this is a tough one, but stepping back, taking personal days and being a human being
  • SalineMiddleAP Nov 9 @ 8:32 PM EST
    A4) take time to learn and laugh with your staff! I got to do this at #AMLE2017 this week and my head and ❤️ are full! #MEMSPAChat
  • dean_kramer1 Nov 9 @ 8:32 PM EST
  • MisterAlbrecht Nov 9 @ 8:32 PM EST
    A4 being reflective & constantly working to improve, but most importantly not working on college football Saturday's #MEMSPAchat
  • TLiMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:32 PM EST
    Love the mindset comment! #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @MisterAlbrecht
  • mingchri Nov 9 @ 8:32 PM EST
    You read my mind. Having someone to collaborate intellectually with energizes and makes all the other negative aspects tolerable #memspachat
    In reply to @ForestPrincipal, @Syndee_Sue, @MrDomagalski, @jon_wennstrom, @benjamingilpin, @JulieMytych, @PaulLiabenow, @vickilwilson5, @AllysonApsey, @PostleBrown
  • mrfuehr Nov 9 @ 8:32 PM EST
    A4: your PLN...which includes Staff, Fellow Principals, & those we lean on for wisdom #memspachat
  • Texaslifeskills Nov 9 @ 8:33 PM EST
    A4:) When teachers feel valued by a principal will do anything for them. It’s a domino effect to success. #memspachat
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Q5 up in 1 minute! #MEMSPAchat
  • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:33 PM EST
    two personal days next week to go hunting...I'm scared of the following Monday, but a couple days in the woods will be nice #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @dean_kramer1
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Q5: If a principal makes it past year 3, they have a good chance at continued success. What are your thoughts on this idea? #MEMSPAchat
  • Vincethewriter Nov 9 @ 8:34 PM EST
    A4 Principals are expected to have all the answers, but mentorship is not only good for teachers. #MEMSPAchat
  • benjamingilpin Nov 9 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Principals have an opportunity to succeed when they continuously learn and have a strong character. #MEMSPAchat
  • donistamour Nov 9 @ 8:34 PM EST
    I have to add time to reflect. Never enough of this and collaborate with others as they talk about S’s & learning success. #MEMSPAChat
    • dougammeraal Nov 9 @ 8:23 PM EST
      A3: Gratitude. Instructional leadership. Perspective. Valued input. Authentic leadership. Remove hurdles. Fail-safe space. #MEMSPAchat
  • BillK76 Nov 9 @ 8:34 PM EST
    A4. Great coworkers and team members to help and support. The ability to roll with things, passion for the kids and purpose, ability to work with team. #MEMSPAchat
  • RickJetter Nov 9 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Thanks so much Paul and #MEMSPAChat. I have to pick Eddie Jetter up from hockey practice. I’ll check back later! George Jetter also says “hello”!
  • MEMSPAchat Nov 9 @ 8:34 PM EST
    QUESTION 5 on #MEMSPAchat...
    • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:34 PM EST
      Q5: If a principal makes it past year 3, they have a good chance at continued success. What are your thoughts on this idea? #MEMSPAchat
  • PrincipalStager Nov 9 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A5: As a teacher and a Principal, Year 3 was the year when I finally felt in control and in a groove. #MEMSPAChat
  • PrincipalStager Nov 9 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A5: It's more difficult to leave when you're comfortable. #MEMSPAChat
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:35 PM EST
    Reflection time adds days to your life. #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @donistamour
  • dean_kramer1 Nov 9 @ 8:35 PM EST
    I’m in yr 2 at my school and it’s VERY busy! Love the vision of years 3-5 as relationships grow and systems are understood! #MEMSPAchat
  • secorsig Nov 9 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A5: First I️ think you are just much more confident and effective in the work. Sometimes there is no substitute for experience. Also, after a couple years you know if the work is or isn’t for you #MEMSPAchat
  • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A5: #MEMSPAchat I think it does get better...I found the more experience I gained the more I relied on others to lead...I learned to delegate and have more FUN at school
  • bradrobb Nov 9 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A5: speaks to situational confidence/experience. Tells me that they went into the profession prepared/open to change. #MEMSPAChat
    In reply to @PaulLiabenow
  • NoviAcademics Nov 9 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A5 A former Supt of mine believed year one told everything about the potential for enduring success...thoughts? #MEMSPAchat
  • mschulte50 Nov 9 @ 8:36 PM EST
    #memspachat A4: Lunch? If a principal can find time for lunch then that leader has found a way to succeed
  • JWSwegles Nov 9 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A5: I’m in year twelve and due to layoffs and job changes I’ve only been in 1 position past 3 years. I’m in year 1 for the 5th time. I’ll get back to you in 3 years. #memspachat
  • HarvestLearning Nov 9 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A5: But also hard to maintain momentum. Have to be careful not to become too comfortable. Find new energy everyday to keep it interesting and forward thinking to meet needs of Ts, Ss, and staff. #MEMSPAchat
    • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:34 PM EST
      Q5: If a principal makes it past year 3, they have a good chance at continued success. What are your thoughts on this idea? #MEMSPAchat
  • SISDInstruction Nov 9 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A5 Year 3 is when the groove starts....I left in year 4 to go to the SISD #sisdchat #memspachat
  • donistamour Nov 9 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A4: An Induction program within the 1st 3 yr. mentoring- PD- expectations tied to standards- PSELS #MEMSPAchat
  • cwoolman06 Nov 9 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A5: The first few years are filled with learning pains. If there is a true growth mindset they will learn as they grow and increase in ability and confidence #MEMSPAchat
  • TLiMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:37 PM EST
    Roll with things--- so important!! #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @BillK76
  • Texaslifeskills Nov 9 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A5:) Sounds like opening a restaurant. Is tenure about business success I wonder? #memspachat
  • Syndee_Sue Nov 9 @ 8:37 PM EST
    Hey #memspachat please follow @akalisz and @vickilwilson5 New to Region 1 and #Memspachat
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:37 PM EST
    Almost always true. Grit, passion and love for students and teachers an absolute. #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @NoviAcademics
  • benjamingilpin Nov 9 @ 8:37 PM EST
    The first 2 Years can be a bit of survival. People often times struggle with change. By year 3 you’ve got a chance. #MEMSPAchat
  • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:37 PM EST
    What is this lunch thing you speak of #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @mschulte50
  • WMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A5 takes time to build trust and connections. By year 3 finally got your footing and leading. #memspachat
  • mingchri Nov 9 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A5: the first 3 years are hard, but success in this job only happens when you continue to challenge yourself and find innovative ways to overcome new obstacles #MEMSPAchat
    • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:34 PM EST
      Q5: If a principal makes it past year 3, they have a good chance at continued success. What are your thoughts on this idea? #MEMSPAchat
  • btenniswood Nov 9 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A5: Agree with the 3 yr point, but also believe principals need continuous collaboration, networking & prof. learning. I'm blessed to work w/ highly reflective principals who continually advocate for students. Great dialogue at our meetings. #MEMSPAchat
  • CraigMcCalla24 Nov 9 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A5: I think after 3 years you know what questions to ask, where to place your efforts, and you should have a good relationship with your Ss, Ts, and community. Confidence is a mighty thing. #MEMSPAChat
  • vickilwilson5 Nov 9 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A5: Probably not that simple, but you have experience to draw on. Need support career wide. Always changing work. #MEMSPAchat
  • ForestPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A5: I agree because they have developed a strong PLN and have the supports around them to survive. Being a part of MEMSPA is a start to developing a strong PLN. #MEMSPAchat
    • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:34 PM EST
      Q5: If a principal makes it past year 3, they have a good chance at continued success. What are your thoughts on this idea? #MEMSPAchat
  • MEMSPAchat Nov 9 @ 8:38 PM EST
    Bam, awesome comment! #MEMSPAchat @gcouros
    • cwoolman06 Nov 9 @ 8:37 PM EST
      A5: The first few years are filled with learning pains. If there is a true growth mindset they will learn as they grow and increase in ability and confidence #MEMSPAchat
  • rewiredprinK2 Nov 9 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A5: What are we doing to support/mentor them and to provide professional learning from the start? Most likely if they made it to year three, they had a mentor or built a PLN through their local ISD or MEMSPA! #memspachat
  • BillK76 Nov 9 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A5. Year one-ignorance is bliss, Year two-start to put things in motion, year three-you know your Ts, Ss, parents, expectations. if you can survive all of that, things start to fall in place. Every year has its challenges, but knowing your team makes it better. #MEMSPAchat
  • Vincethewriter Nov 9 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A4 principals succeed as leaders when they create a school culture where teachers desire to follow versus following in fear. #MEMSPAchat
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:38 PM EST
    Gov. Indicates he will consider a veto of Guns Bill. #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @davidsimpson512, @YakeGators, @MEMSPA
  • dougammeraal Nov 9 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A5: Year 3 is simply a spot to "settle in." Continued success only occurs when we can maintain focus, hold true to our beliefs, sustain a growth mindset, and continue to support our team. Constantly connect to your WHY and PASSION. #MEMSPAchat
    • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:34 PM EST
      Q5: If a principal makes it past year 3, they have a good chance at continued success. What are your thoughts on this idea? #MEMSPAchat
  • SalineMiddleAP Nov 9 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A5) what supports do we, as admin district, county, and state teams need to put in place to care for our new admins? I remember how awesome @chieflearner06 was supporting me at my 1st memspa conference!! More of that! #MEMSPAChat
    In reply to @PaulLiabenow, @chieflearner06
  • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:39 PM EST
    Or found themselves in leadership matters with some amazing leaders #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @rewiredprinK2
  • TLiMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A5 Can relate-- it's the year that your work and personal touch starts to surface. #MEMSPAchat
  • HERprincipal Nov 9 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A4: As my daughter just after I read her the question, "The Staff!" I agree! Now time for bed. Good night everyone! #MEMSPAchat
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:40 PM EST
    Q6 up in 1 minute. #MEMSPAchat
  • SalineMiddleAP Nov 9 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A5) what supports do we, as admin district, county, and state teams need to put in place to care for our new admins? I remember how awesome @chieflearner06 was supporting me at my 1st memspa conference!! More of that! #MEMSPAChat
  • mollyfunk Nov 9 @ 8:40 PM EST
    It takes time to build relationships and creditability. Build trust and you can’t be consistent without time... #memspachat
    • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:34 PM EST
      Q5: If a principal makes it past year 3, they have a good chance at continued success. What are your thoughts on this idea? #MEMSPAchat
  • mschulte50 Nov 9 @ 8:40 PM EST
    #memspachat This make things so much harder. Hang in there
    In reply to @JWSwegles
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:40 PM EST
    #GrowthMidset can conquer any hurdle. #MEMSPAchat
    • cwoolman06 Nov 9 @ 8:37 PM EST
      A5: The first few years are filled with learning pains. If there is a true growth mindset they will learn as they grow and increase in ability and confidence #MEMSPAchat
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:40 PM EST
    Integrity, passion, love of learning growth mindset needed. You are so right. #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @dougammeraal
  • RachelACard Nov 9 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A3: Experiences and relationships are the foundations for success. A lot can happen in three years to empower & build confidence.#MEMSPAchat
  • BuckmasterKelly Nov 9 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A5: like finding your stride, build networks and keep living the dream! Mentor new admin & stay fresh #MEMSPAChat
  • WMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:40 PM EST
    Agreed- inspired by my Leadership Matters cohort! Cohort 8 is great! #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @tlyman1976, @rewiredprinK2
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:41 PM EST
    Q6: What are your thoughts on mentoring as a form of support? #MEMSPAchat
  • donistamour Nov 9 @ 8:41 PM EST
    What a great point we all need mentors. LOL #MEMSPAChat
    • JWSwegles Nov 9 @ 8:37 PM EST
      A5: I’m in year twelve and due to layoffs and job changes I’ve only been in 1 position past 3 years. I’m in year 1 for the 5th time. I’ll get back to you in 3 years. #memspachat
  • rewiredprinK2 Nov 9 @ 8:41 PM EST
    Hmmm. My superintendent told me my first year that I would have a great honeymoon, but then the marriage would begin! :) #memspachat
    In reply to @NoviAcademics
  • mingchri Nov 9 @ 8:41 PM EST
    Back to A4: realizing that you have to keep it all in the right perspective. Like when this guy says “Dad will you read me a book?” Night #memspachat , little man calls
  • PrincipalStager Nov 9 @ 8:41 PM EST
    A6: Mentoring can be the best form of support! #MEMSPAChat
  • mollyfunk Nov 9 @ 8:41 PM EST
    Ask @paulliabenow how or what he’s doing on any given day “Living the dream” #memspachat
    • BuckmasterKelly Nov 9 @ 8:40 PM EST
      A5: like finding your stride, build networks and keep living the dream! Mentor new admin & stay fresh #MEMSPAChat
  • MEMSPAchat Nov 9 @ 8:41 PM EST
    QUESTION 6 below... Mentoring as support on #MEMSPAchat
  • SISDInstruction Nov 9 @ 8:42 PM EST
    Growth mindset is a great start, but let us not be afraid to explore the #innovatorsmindset #memspachat #sisdchat
    In reply to @PaulLiabenow
  • NoviAcademics Nov 9 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A6 Absolutely critical for any educator...those of us who have earned the "wrinkles" must actively mentor and give back...MUST #MEMSPAchat
  • MrDomagalski - Moderator Nov 9 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A6: Mentoring is huge! We all need one, no matter what the job or years in! #MEMSPAchat
  • PrincipalStager Nov 9 @ 8:42 PM EST
    .@donistamour we all need mentors who have our best interest at heart...sadly, not always the case. #MEMSPAChat
    In reply to @donistamour
  • BillK76 Nov 9 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A6. Mentoring is a great and proven support. I'm lucky to be in a great district full of people who I can always call on to help with a question, issue, vent, or celebrate. #MEMSPAchat
  • TLiMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A6 Mentoring brings relationships to teachers and principals and strong relationships are so important in this job! #MEMSPAchat
  • bradrobb Nov 9 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A6: Love it when done with a plan, and/or intent. A driven mentor is a model... so is a lacking mentor. #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @PaulLiabenow
  • MisterAlbrecht Nov 9 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A6 can't be done blindly #MEMSPAchat
  • SalineMiddleAP Nov 9 @ 8:43 PM EST
    Signing off a bit early, thanks @PaulLiabenow for a great #MEMSPAChat tonight!
  • donistamour Nov 9 @ 8:43 PM EST
    As a leader Change is “normal” for sure. That is a great point to share with aspiring leaders! #MEMSPAChat
    • bradrobb Nov 9 @ 8:36 PM EST
      A5: speaks to situational confidence/experience. Tells me that they went into the profession prepared/open to change. #MEMSPAChat
      In reply to @PaulLiabenow
  • Texaslifeskills Nov 9 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A6:) Mentoring at all levels brings a humanness to the job. #memspachat
  • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:43 PM EST
    #memspachat
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:43 PM EST
    37 years in and I still have a mentor. #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @MrDomagalski
  • benjamingilpin Nov 9 @ 8:43 PM EST
    Mentoring is a phenomenal way to support one another. Key is to have a willingness to be vulnerable and admit you need support. #MEMSPAchat
  • HarvestLearning Nov 9 @ 8:43 PM EST
    Q6: So important, but we need to do a better job of preparing both Ts & Admin to be mentors. We need training to be great mentors. Next on my bucket list. :) #MEMSPAchat
  • WMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:44 PM EST
    A6 Being the lone admin in a building can feel very isolating at times. Mentorship and support for one another is essential. Grateful for my admin colleagues... #memspachat
  • SISDInstruction Nov 9 @ 8:44 PM EST
    A6 Mentors should be both within the organization and external. Sometimes internal mentors can cloud the mindset with cultural challenges. Find an outside support as well. All about perspective. #sisdchat #memspachat
  • mollyfunk Nov 9 @ 8:44 PM EST
    A6: As a @naesp Mentor and trainer, we have to remember that mentoring is not only a critical component of principal success but is a skill that learned with intention and purpose, not years of service in the role. #memspachat
  • JWSwegles Nov 9 @ 8:44 PM EST
    Just trying to add value every place I go! #memspachat
    In reply to @PaulLiabenow
  • mrfuehr Nov 9 @ 8:44 PM EST
    A5: Learning about new staff, procedures/systems, culture, & expectations takes time...and patience. We all need to extend grace to one another during this process. #memspachat
    • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:34 PM EST
      Q5: If a principal makes it past year 3, they have a good chance at continued success. What are your thoughts on this idea? #MEMSPAchat
  • PrincipalStager Nov 9 @ 8:44 PM EST
    .@benjamingilpin you are a phenomenal mentor. Thank you for what you do for all of us! #MEMSPAChat
    In reply to @benjamingilpin
  • BuckmasterKelly Nov 9 @ 8:44 PM EST
    A6: mentors are necessary! I appreciated mine and I'm happy to support my new team - on their terms #MEMSPAchat
  • secorsig Nov 9 @ 8:44 PM EST
    A6: mentoring and support is a must. Not sure it has to be a “program,” but has to be people and support #MEMSPAchat
  • donistamour Nov 9 @ 8:44 PM EST
    Comfortable or confident. I think confident may be a positive! #MEMSPAChat
  • vickilwilson5 Nov 9 @ 8:44 PM EST
    A6: We need mentors that we trust & can be vulnerable with. My best mentors happen naturally. Find them, talk, learn, grow. #MEMSPAchat
  • dougammeraal Nov 9 @ 8:44 PM EST
    A6: Mentoring allows for both parties to reflect, learn, and support...if you're open to it. Mentoring can "humanize" the work / job and put things into perspective. #MEMSPAchat
  • cwoolman06 Nov 9 @ 8:45 PM EST
    A6: Mentoring is the truest form of support. Learning from someone who has walked in your shoes and has learned along the way is critical if we want to retain new admin and Ts #memspachat
  • ForestPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:45 PM EST
    @PrincipalStager you can say that again. #memspachat
  • mschulte50 Nov 9 @ 8:45 PM EST
    Michael is a true friend and a great role model. #memspachat
    In reply to @SalineMiddleAP, @chieflearner06
  • PrincipalStager Nov 9 @ 8:45 PM EST
    .@WMPrincipal It is very difficult to be the only one. #MEMSPAChat
    In reply to @WMPrincipal
  • TLiMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:45 PM EST
    So agree Andy-- extending grace is necessary. #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @mrfuehr
  • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:45 PM EST
    A6: Having the courage to ask for help is critical in our roles. We must be willing to admit where we need support and ask for guidance #MEMSPAchat
  • HarvestLearning Nov 9 @ 8:45 PM EST
    That's why Leadership Matters has been so important for myself and growth as a leader! #lmcohort8 has challenged and I've grown my PLN! #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @MrDomagalski
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:45 PM EST
    Grace and mercy. And an occasional start over. #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @mrfuehr
  • StacyWonfor Nov 9 @ 8:46 PM EST
    A6: Mentor partnerships are so important to my growth and sanity! #MEMSPAchat
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:46 PM EST
    Truth. #MEMSPAchat
    • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:45 PM EST
      A6: Having the courage to ask for help is critical in our roles. We must be willing to admit where we need support and ask for guidance #MEMSPAchat
  • mollyfunk Nov 9 @ 8:46 PM EST
    Yes, but it has to be a “safe space” to do so. Many principals do not have the luxury of a safe environment to grow and learn #memspachat
    In reply to @tlyman1976
  • JWSwegles Nov 9 @ 8:46 PM EST
    A7: CRUCIAL! If I didn’t have people like @rewiredprinK2 @debbiemcfalone @paquette_deb and now @jmessenger34 @suptfreeman @powellju3 I might be selling insurance. #memspachat
  • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:46 PM EST
    Great point! We must be given grace as much as we give it to others in our schools #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @PaulLiabenow, @mrfuehr
  • rewiredprinK2 Nov 9 @ 8:46 PM EST
    NAESP offers National Mentor Certification! Love to have more principals become certified! #memspachat
    In reply to @HarvestLearning
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:47 PM EST
    Q7 up in one minute! #MEMSPAchat
  • CraigMcCalla24 Nov 9 @ 8:47 PM EST
    A6: Mentoring is so important. We need to train our Ts and admin to be mentors. It doesn't just happen. The first step is admitting you need one! #MEMSPAchat
  • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:47 PM EST
    There is no doubt about that...MEMSPA has always been my safe place. Knowing who to ask by building a strong network has been critical for my successes and failures #memspachat
    In reply to @mollyfunk
  • bradrobb Nov 9 @ 8:47 PM EST
    Thanks to all on #Memspachat tonight... I’m ducking out a tad early... Dad chores call.
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:48 PM EST
    Q7: Great teachers make great leaders. Always True- Sometimes True- Rarely True. What do you think and why? #MEMSPAchat
  • donistamour Nov 9 @ 8:48 PM EST
    Oh Yeah! We CAN model not knowing it ALL #Growthmindset but working to learn AT it ALL! #MEMSPAChat
    • Vincethewriter Nov 9 @ 8:34 PM EST
      A4 Principals are expected to have all the answers, but mentorship is not only good for teachers. #MEMSPAchat
  • rewiredprinK2 Nov 9 @ 8:48 PM EST
    A6: Of course, having a mentor is essential, BUT you could join Cohort 9 of Leadership Matters and build your own network of learners AND get monthly coaching and have mentors for a lifetime! Just sayin. . . #memspachat
  • RachelACard Nov 9 @ 8:48 PM EST
    A6: The best mentors challenge us to push ourselves to greater potentials rather than just imparting wisdom. #MEMSPAchat
  • mrfuehr Nov 9 @ 8:48 PM EST
    A6: mentors help us see who we can be as leaders. #memspachat thanks @rewiredprinK2 @HIVEPrinciPal @BHartmanPPS @TLiMPrincipal to name a few
  • TLiMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:49 PM EST
    A7 Sometimes true-- different skill set. Teaching students and teaching adults are very different! #MEMSPAchat
  • PrincipalStager Nov 9 @ 8:49 PM EST
    A7: Great leaders are great teachers....not sure if that's the same thing. #MEMSPAChat
  • MEMSPAchat Nov 9 @ 8:49 PM EST
    QUESTION 7 has posted on #MEMSPAchat Great job everyone!!!! The collaboration is like the NBA in the 90's, "It's Fan-tastic!"
    • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:48 PM EST
      Q7: Great teachers make great leaders. Always True- Sometimes True- Rarely True. What do you think and why? #MEMSPAchat
  • SISDInstruction Nov 9 @ 8:49 PM EST
    @mollyfunk I need more info on the @NAESP mentor program when you visit! Would perhaps like to become certified myself. #memspachat #sisdchat
  • secorsig Nov 9 @ 8:49 PM EST
    A7: Sometimes true. It’s not all the same skills and some aren’t transferrable. The blend of working with students, staff, parents, and administration at the principal level requires some skills different than teaching, but some the same as well #MEMSPAchat
  • mollyfunk Nov 9 @ 8:50 PM EST
    Literally LOL picturing the “Bad Boys” right now :) #memspachat
    In reply to @MEMSPAchat
  • ForestPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:50 PM EST
    Thank you, @PrincipalStager I was trying to find a way to say that. #MEMSPAchat
  • Texaslifeskills Nov 9 @ 8:50 PM EST
    A7:) Great teachers will always make great leaders if you believe that a leader is someone who inspires people. #memspachat
  • MEMSPA Nov 9 @ 8:50 PM EST
    Apply today to be a part of the 2018 Leadership Matters Cohort! https://t.co/lS1mONcfME #MEMSPAchat
    • rewiredprinK2 Nov 9 @ 8:48 PM EST
      A6: Of course, having a mentor is essential, BUT you could join Cohort 9 of Leadership Matters and build your own network of learners AND get monthly coaching and have mentors for a lifetime! Just sayin. . . #memspachat
  • NoviAcademics Nov 9 @ 8:50 PM EST
    A7 Great Educators are Great Educators...as teachers, formal leaders, informal leaders #MEMSPAchat
  • rewiredprinK2 Nov 9 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Swegles, remember you are in sales! You motivate and influence people! BTW, you would be good at selling insurance too! You are a natural brother! #memspachat
    In reply to @JWSwegles, @debbiemcfalone, @paquette_deb, @jmessenger34, @suptfreeman, @powellju3
  • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:51 PM EST
    A7: #memspachat Each case is an individual as a student or a teacher. Great teachers may not have the courage to be a great leader. It is a different skill set. You just don't know until you get those 3 years in :)
  • WMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Bravo! #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @PrincipalStager
  • JWSwegles Nov 9 @ 8:51 PM EST
    A7: sometimes true...said last week, follow your purpose and bring your passion. Not everyone’s purpose is to lead out front, but can still do so within the ranks. #memspachat
  • donistamour Nov 9 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Networks rule @tlyman1976 also having membership in a supportive association I ❤️ @MEMSPA PLNs #MEMSPAChat
    • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:45 PM EST
      A6: Having the courage to ask for help is critical in our roles. We must be willing to admit where we need support and ask for guidance #MEMSPAchat
  • dougammeraal Nov 9 @ 8:51 PM EST
    A7: Sometimes true...great athletes do not always make great coaches. However, great teachers will never lose that teacher hat...this will allow greater success opportunities as an educational leader. Skillset. #MEMSPAchat
    • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:48 PM EST
      Q7: Great teachers make great leaders. Always True- Sometimes True- Rarely True. What do you think and why? #MEMSPAchat
  • benjamingilpin Nov 9 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Sometimes. Leaders need to be able to put others above themselves. It truly is not about you. #Empathy #Listen #Value #Trust #Support #MEMSPAchat
  • mschulte50 Nov 9 @ 8:51 PM EST
    #memspachat. Might be?? I would have bailed a a while ago if it weren't for my MEMSPA family
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Sometimes true. Gotta want a challenge, have passion, love people and lead with integrity and service above self. #MEMSPAchat
  • BillK76 Nov 9 @ 8:52 PM EST
    A7. Sometimes true. i have learned teaching and being an effective principal requires many different skills. many overlap, but the amount of use some get over others has changed. #MEMSPAchat
  • StacyWonfor Nov 9 @ 8:52 PM EST
    A7: Always true. Great teachers naturally lead by example. Those who aspire to be great will gravitate toward them. #MEMSPAchat
  • BuckmasterKelly Nov 9 @ 8:52 PM EST
    A7: the potential is there if there is the drive and interest #MEMSPAchat
  • TLiMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:52 PM EST
    YEP! #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @PaulLiabenow
  • MrDomagalski - Moderator Nov 9 @ 8:52 PM EST
    A2: Sometimes. True leaders will delegate and not make it about themselves. They are strong, precise, and are comfortable leading by example yet admitting their faults. #MEMSPAchat
    • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:48 PM EST
      Q7: Great teachers make great leaders. Always True- Sometimes True- Rarely True. What do you think and why? #MEMSPAchat
  • CraigMcCalla24 Nov 9 @ 8:53 PM EST
    A7: Tough one. Sometimes true - being a great teacher does not always correlate to a great leader. There is a different skill set when one is leading a building of students, adults, and families. #MEMSPAchat
  • Vincethewriter Nov 9 @ 8:53 PM EST
    A7 Sometimes true. Great teachers are the epitome of what teaching and learning looks like where as great leaders (principals) is more management & delegation, #MEMSPAchat
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:53 PM EST
    So try true! Servants heart an absolute. #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @benjamingilpin
  • HarvestLearning Nov 9 @ 8:53 PM EST
    A7: Sometimes true... not all great teachers are vulnerable and I believe as a great leader you must be vulnerable to those you serve. You must have the ability to step aside and let others lead and not all great teachers can do that. #MEMSPAchat
    • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:48 PM EST
      Q7: Great teachers make great leaders. Always True- Sometimes True- Rarely True. What do you think and why? #MEMSPAchat
  • PrincipalStager Nov 9 @ 8:53 PM EST
    #ServantLeader #MEMSPAChat
  • MisterAlbrecht Nov 9 @ 8:53 PM EST
    A7 So many variables...dealing with different animals #MEMSPAchat
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:54 PM EST
    Q8 up in 1 Minute. Last question of the night. #MEMSPAchat
  • donistamour Nov 9 @ 8:54 PM EST
    Relationships- help us find our way #MEMSPAchat
  • SISDInstruction Nov 9 @ 8:54 PM EST
    A7 sometimes true. You have to want to lead and have the skill set. Not all great teachers have that combo #sisdchat #memspachat
  • rewiredprinK2 Nov 9 @ 8:54 PM EST
    A7: I am reminded of my favorite Tom Izzo quote: "A good player is a good player." A great player makes others great!" Read: "A good teacher is a good teacher. A great teacher makes others great! "A good leader is a good leader! A great leader makes others great!"#memspachat
  • TLiMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:54 PM EST
    Good point about will aspire. Start of principalship though is so different that it may take a while to find the greatness again #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @StacyWonfor
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:55 PM EST
    Q8: Picking either teacher shortage or principal turnover, what advice do you have for legislators? #MEMSPAchat
  • Syndee_Sue Nov 9 @ 8:55 PM EST
    Some Great Teachers May chose to lead from where the stand. #memspachat We need Teacher Leaders in our schools...😊
    In reply to @PaulLiabenow
  • mollyfunk Nov 9 @ 8:55 PM EST
    Thanks @rewiredprink2 I love this! #memspachat
    • rewiredprinK2 Nov 9 @ 8:54 PM EST
      A7: I am reminded of my favorite Tom Izzo quote: "A good player is a good player." A great player makes others great!" Read: "A good teacher is a good teacher. A great teacher makes others great! "A good leader is a good leader! A great leader makes others great!"#memspachat
  • MEMSPAchat Nov 9 @ 8:55 PM EST
    LAST QUESTION on tonight's #MEMSPAchat
    • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:55 PM EST
      Q8: Picking either teacher shortage or principal turnover, what advice do you have for legislators? #MEMSPAchat
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:55 PM EST
    Greatness ifs often on the horizon. Grit takes you there. #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @TLiMPrincipal, @StacyWonfor
  • JWSwegles Nov 9 @ 8:55 PM EST
    You had me at Tom Izzo, but great truth in that quote! #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @rewiredprinK2
  • TLiMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:56 PM EST
    A8 Great Q. Please bring honor back to our field and Seek First to Understand then to Be Understood #MEMSPAchat
  • dean_kramer1 Nov 9 @ 8:56 PM EST
    A8: Advice to legislature - slow down! T’s and P’s are overwhelmed! More policy doesn’t necessarily = S success. Need to be thoughtful! #MEMSPAchat
  • MrDomagalski - Moderator Nov 9 @ 8:56 PM EST
    A8: Look at education funding and make it appropriate. Give back to the profession and you'll see morale up, more entering the profession, higher quality candidates, and higher outcomes. #MEMSPAchat
  • brostromda Nov 9 @ 8:56 PM EST
    This is AMAZING. Meet Molly...the kid who never stopped inventing. https://t.co/2vCX7VC71O #makerspace #miched #memspachat
  • mrfuehr Nov 9 @ 8:56 PM EST
    Thanks @PaulLiabenow for leading #MEMSPAchat ...modeling the quote I’ve heard numerous times this year...”leaders go first!”
  • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:56 PM EST
    A8: #MEMSPAchat Come visit our schools. See the passion, the love of students, the effort put into your children and my children. Come see...join us in making the world a better place!
  • PrincipalStager Nov 9 @ 8:56 PM EST
    A8: Either way, we need to stop making educators the enemy. #MEMSPAChat
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:56 PM EST
    I vote for Leader In ME in every school in MI. #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @TLiMPrincipal
  • NoviAcademics Nov 9 @ 8:56 PM EST
    A8 Come visit us! Please come and visit our classrooms/schools to learn about our contributions to kids/communities/country #MEMSPAchat
  • TLiMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:56 PM EST
    Right back at 'ya! #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @donistamour
  • MisterAlbrecht Nov 9 @ 8:57 PM EST
    A8 come to my building coffee is always hot! #MEMSPAchat
  • BillK76 Nov 9 @ 8:57 PM EST
    A8. Stop attacking teachers! help restore the public trust in teachers and public schools. Funding that meets the demands they place on us. Help build better teacher prep programs to draw interest back into a noble profession. #MEMSPAchat
  • WMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:57 PM EST
    A8 We all strive for greatness. Stop browbeating and start praising the greatness in our schools. When people feel their efforts are appreciated and recognized additional greatness will follow! #memspachat
    • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:55 PM EST
      Q8: Picking either teacher shortage or principal turnover, what advice do you have for legislators? #MEMSPAchat
  • SISDInstruction Nov 9 @ 8:57 PM EST
    A8 Bring the professional status back to education and you will address both issues. #sisdchat #memspachat
  • NoviAcademics Nov 9 @ 8:58 PM EST
    Thank You #MEMSPAchat Crew for a great night @PaulLiabenow @MrDomagalski Have a Great Night:)
  • HarvestLearning Nov 9 @ 8:58 PM EST
    A8: Honor profession as the professionals that we are. The majority of Ts and all administrators have Master Degrees or better. We are continuous learners and we do this in the best interest of the children we serve. Walk in our shoes and then judge. #MEMSPAchat
    • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:55 PM EST
      Q8: Picking either teacher shortage or principal turnover, what advice do you have for legislators? #MEMSPAchat
  • tlyman1976 Nov 9 @ 8:58 PM EST
    I'm planning on joining regularly again. This chat is always inspiring and re-energizes me to be better tomorrow than I was today #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @MrDomagalski
  • mschulte50 Nov 9 @ 8:58 PM EST
    #memspachat A8. Walk a day in our shoes. Then do what needs to be done.
  • donistamour Nov 9 @ 8:58 PM EST
    Yes! Find the leader within #MEMSPAChat
    • Syndee_Sue Nov 9 @ 8:55 PM EST
      Some Great Teachers May chose to lead from where the stand. #memspachat We need Teacher Leaders in our schools...😊
      In reply to @PaulLiabenow
  • secorsig Nov 9 @ 8:58 PM EST
    A8: My message would be to restore the value and respect in the profession, one decision at a time #MEMSPAchat
  • RogovichPeter Nov 9 @ 8:58 PM EST
    #memspachat Finally able to join... Peter Rogovich from Coldwater
  • PrincipalStager Nov 9 @ 8:58 PM EST
    Thank you @MrDomagalski and @PaulLiabenow for a great chat! #MEMSPAChat
  • BillK76 Nov 9 @ 8:58 PM EST
    Thank you @PaulLiabenow for a great chat. looking forward to seeing many of you soon at the conference! #MEMSPAchat
  • StacyWonfor Nov 9 @ 8:59 PM EST
    A8:Don’t even look at Education when considering budget cuts. Kids are at stake here. #MEMSPAchat
  • btenniswood Nov 9 @ 8:59 PM EST
    Thank you @PaulLiabenow and @MrDomagalski for another awesome chat. #MEMSPAchat
  • RogovichPeter Nov 9 @ 8:59 PM EST
    #memspachat... obviously late...lol
  • WMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:59 PM EST
    Thanks all for a great chat. Have a wonderful evening. #memspachat
  • dougammeraal Nov 9 @ 8:59 PM EST
    A8: Students are giving and growing as learners and people. Teachers inspire, challenge, and educate regardless of present level. Leaders support, navigate, and fight for students and teachers. We need legislators genuinely support, value, and encourage all 3! #MEMSPAchat
    • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 8:55 PM EST
      Q8: Picking either teacher shortage or principal turnover, what advice do you have for legislators? #MEMSPAchat
  • TLiMPrincipal Nov 9 @ 8:59 PM EST
    Awesome-- hope to join you next week as well! :) #MEMSPAchat
    In reply to @tlyman1976, @MrDomagalski
  • rewiredprinK2 Nov 9 @ 8:59 PM EST
    As Todd Whitaker always says, "RAISE THE PRAISE! MINIMIZE THE CRITICIZE! #memspachat
    In reply to @WMPrincipal
  • PaulLiabenow Nov 9 @ 9:00 PM EST
    That concludes this week's #MEMSPAchat. Thank you for leading learning! Please let #MEMSPA know if we can be there for you in any way.