#sblchat Archive
Wednesday March 22, 2017
9:00 PM EDT
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Kevin, we'd love to have you join us in
#sblchat
NOW!
@AaronSBlackwel1
@d_mulder
#sblchat
#GreatTeachers
In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1, @d_mulder
HCKoe42
Mar 22 @ 8:32 PM EDT
I'd love to join if I may. I am one of Dr. Mulder's Students in EDUC#508
In reply to @RoweRikW, @AaronSBlackwel1, @mrscienceteach
MrsMurat
Mar 22 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Our Ss held a Digital Citizenship Summit! Check it out!
https://t.co/cQR4TYqd7B
#nebedchat
#sblchat
#ptchat
#livedchat
#enviroed
#DTK12chat
MikeSzczepanik
Mar 22 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Getting a jump on the intros :) I'm Mike from Rochester NY area (Hilton HS - Biology teacher)
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Mike, thrilled to have you join us in
#sblchat
Tonight!
In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Mar 22 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Hope you all have a great chat tonight - I'll be watching my son at his solo night. My awesome co-mod
@RoweRikW
is covering for me!
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
KRScienceLady
Mar 22 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Kathy from very cold VT is here!
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Mar 22 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Hello
#sblchat
! Katie, 6th grade science teacher, tweeting from the Chicagoland area tonight. Happy to be here!
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Aaron Blackwelder from SW Washington co-moderator tonight. Thanks for having me
@RoweRikW
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Kathy, it's artic COLD in Boston, too!
#sblchat
In reply to @KRScienceLady
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Check out this Great Read on creating a "Culture of Feedback" by
@plugusin
&
@mrscienceteach
#sblchat
https://t.co/fVWGf2Pr7i
In reply to @plugusin, @mrscienceteach
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Please welcome: Aaron {
@AaronSBlackwel1
} Paul {
@mrscienceteach
} Bill {
@plugusin
} for our "Culture of Feedback"!
#sblchat
In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1, @mrscienceteach, @plugusin
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hi
#sblchat
Mandi, HS Math teacher from MO
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hi Mandi! So please to welcome YOU to
#sblchat
Tonight!
In reply to @TTmomTT
HCKoe42
Mar 22 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hi
#sblchat
Kevin here from Holland MI. English teacher.
KRScienceLady
Mar 22 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Happy to talk proficiency with another science lover
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Mar 22 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Hello
#sblchat
! Katie, 6th grade science teacher, tweeting from the Chicagoland area tonight. Happy to be here!
hornsclassroom
Mar 22 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hello
#sblchat
- it's been awhile, but glad to make it tonight. Brooke from TX. Middle school ELA here.
BradLatzke
Mar 22 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Brad in Bangkok joining
#sblchat
VedderAaron
Mar 22 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hey
#sblchat
, Aaron from Hamilton Ontario, HS English teacher!
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Our
#sblchat
is focused on how a Culture of Feedback can
#StimulateGrowth
. Thanks to
@plugusin
&
@mrscienceteach
!
https://t.co/Tz2dH81GeV
In reply to @plugusin, @mrscienceteach
MikeSzczepanik
Mar 22 @ 9:03 PM EDT
What a great set of moderators we have here tonight
@RoweRikW
and
@AaronSBlackwel1
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW, @AaronSBlackwel1
SylviaEllison
Mar 22 @ 9:03 PM EDT
hi
#sblchat
! So glad to join you tonight ... I love talking Feedback š ... I'm Sylvia, HS Title 1 Writing Coach from Tampa FL
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Let's all welcome Kevin {
@HCKoe42
} to
#sblchat
Tonight! He was invited by
@d_mulder
In reply to @HCKoe42, @d_mulder
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Welcome Brooke!
#sblchat
In reply to @hornsclassroom
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Pleased to welcome you, Brad!
#sblchat
In reply to @BradLatzke
KatieBudrow
Mar 22 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Right back at 'cha, Kathy! And stay warm!
#sblchat
In reply to @KRScienceLady
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:03 PM EDT
#sblchat
Hi everyone -- Rick Wormeli from northern Virginia in for a short while tonight, trying to stay warm on freezacious night.
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Like this tweet if you're new to
#sblchat
so we can welcome you to our discussion on how to
#StimulateGrowth
in Standards-Based Learning!
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Aaron, might this be your first time in
#sblchat
Tonight?
In reply to @VedderAaron
drangelapeery
Mar 22 @ 9:04 PM EDT
#sblchat
Participating from my
@Delta
flight between DCA and ATL! Author and consultant from S Carolina
#blendedvocab
In reply to @Delta
KatieBudrow
Mar 22 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Aw, shucks! Thanks Aaron!
#sblchat
In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hi Sylvia! Welcome Friend!
#sblchat
In reply to @SylviaEllison
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hi Brad!
#sblchat
In reply to @BradLatzke
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hey
#sblchat
and
@RoweRikW
&
@garnet_hillman
Great topic. Aric from MI here.
In reply to @RoweRikW, @garnet_hillman
j_ozbolt
Mar 22 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Jason HS dean from IL looking forward to a great chat
#sblchat
kenoc7
Mar 22 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Ken OāConnor, author/consultant Toronto, ON, CAN. Tonight in Provo, UT.
#sblchat
. Will try to stay awake - up at 2 EDT for a 6 AM flight.
VedderAaron
Mar 22 @ 9:04 PM EDT
It is indeed!
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Let's all welcome Kevin {
@HCKoe42
} to
#sblchat
Tonight! It's his first time here!
In reply to @HCKoe42
HCKoe42
Mar 22 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Ruth you could join us tonight at
#sblchat
In reply to @rclarkeducation, @RoweRikW
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Aric, always challenged by you, Friend!
#sblchat
In reply to @Aricfoster2
MikeSzczepanik
Mar 22 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Hi Ken
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7
ESMDayton
Mar 22 @ 9:05 PM EDT
John Christie Principal Long Island
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Welcome Kevin. This is a great chat to be in!
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW, @HCKoe42
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:05 PM EDT
You have complete permission to zone out and post all tweets as zzzzzzzzzzz's!
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7
amanda_glover
Mar 22 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Joining
#sblchat
from Brooklyn, NY! Former middle school math educator leading Learning & Development with
@kiddomapp
In reply to @RoweRikW, @kiddomapp
MikeSzczepanik
Mar 22 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Hey Aric
#sblchat
In reply to @Aricfoster2
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Katie, so pleased to welcome You!
#sblchat
In reply to @KatieBudrow
BradLatzke
Mar 22 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Waiting for your words of experience to inspire us all!
#sblchat
In reply to @rickwormeli2
datiepriest
Mar 22 @ 9:06 PM EDT
#sblchat
Good eveningāŗ
MikeSzczepanik
Mar 22 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Hey Rick
#sblchat
In reply to @rickwormeli2
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Rick, honored by your faithfulness in
#sblchat
each week!
In reply to @rickwormeli2
r_medema
Mar 22 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Hi Rik et al Doctor Dave Mulder sent me.
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:06 PM EDT
You may be waiting awhile. Spilled them all today on a new manuscript. :-)
#sblchat
In reply to @BradLatzke
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Amanda, thrilled to have you join in our coinversation.
#sblchat
In reply to @amanda_glover, @kiddomapp
KatieBudrow
Mar 22 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Rik, I'm so pleased to be here (and representing the
#engage109
crowd tonight)!
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Angela, Welcome!
#sblchat
In reply to @drangelapeery
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Q1 in one minute...
#sblchat
to
#StimulateGrowth
MikeSzczepanik
Mar 22 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Hey Mandi!
#sblchat
... double dipping chats again tonight?
In reply to @TTmomTT
hhschiaravalli
Mar 22 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Arthur, ELA 12 and AP Eng Lit teacher from MI. Glad to be with you all tonight!
#sblchat
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:07 PM EDT
#sblchat
I thought I could put the blankets away... alas. :-)
In reply to @HarkinsEDU
MikeSzczepanik
Mar 22 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Hey Arthur!
#sblchat
In reply to @hhschiaravalli
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Hey Mike!
#sblchat
In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Let's welcome Ralph {
@r_medema
} to
#sblchat
Tonight! Our Friend,
@d_mulder
sent him.
In reply to @r_medema, @d_mulder
rclarkeducation
Mar 22 @ 9:07 PM EDT
oops. Can I join you in
#sblchat
? also recommended from
@d_mulder
In reply to @RoweRikW, @d_mulder
VedderAaron
Mar 22 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Welcome, Ralph!
#sblchat
#DC508
represent!
In reply to @r_medema, @RoweRikW
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Q1 - Why is frequent Feedback important to stimulate a growth mindset?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Welcome Jason!
#sblchat
In reply to @j_ozbolt
hhschiaravalli
Mar 22 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Been a while, and I'll be coming and going as I (surprise, surprise) provide students
#feedback
on
@Seesaw
#sblchat
In reply to @Seesaw
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Ken, so pleased to have you here with us!
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:08 PM EDT
#sblchat
Just walked the dogs...man, this is getting old. Can't wait for 70's this weekend!
In reply to @HarkinsEDU
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:08 PM EDT
John, welcome!
#sblchat
In reply to @ESMDayton
r_medema
Mar 22 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Go easy I'm barely cracked out of my egg & pretty new to tweets
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
jodidevries
Mar 22 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Hi all! I'm Jodi. Jumping in for a while from Cambridge, MA.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 - Our Learners share how important Feedback is to their learning and request for it to me as immediate as possible.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Yes, Ruth {
@rclarkeducation
}. Welcome to
#sblchat
Tonight!
@d_mulder
In reply to @rclarkeducation, @d_mulder
mrscienceteach
Mar 22 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 - Frequent feedback provides students will opportunities to see where they are and where they need to be
#sblchat
hornsclassroom
Mar 22 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1) in order to grow we must first know where we are today- how do I know where I'm going if I don't know where I am?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Datie, Welcome!
#sblchat
In reply to @datiepriest
j_ozbolt
Mar 22 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 feedback is what helps Ss learn and do better. A score with no direction doesn't help the learning process
#sblchat
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:09 PM EDT
YAY! Look at all my
#DC508
peeps getting in on
#sblchat
tonight! :-D Youāre in good hands with
@RoweRikW
and
@garnet_hillman
!
In reply to @RoweRikW, @garnet_hillman
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: Without frequent feedback, Ss don't see a purpose/need for growth. Grades end learning so feedback is needed to continue lrning
#sblchat
mrscienceteach
Mar 22 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
Love that you mentioned that feedback can (and should) come from peers and from self
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: timely feedback, abundant and prompt, is necessary to help our learning flowers grow most efficiently
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:10 PM EDT
RT Q1 - Why is frequent Feedback important to stimulate a growth mindset?
#sblchat
SylviaEllison
Mar 22 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1 I find that struggling Sts shut down without feedback - "I can't therefore I won't" - Feedback says I can with this next step
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Q1 - Why is frequent Feedback important to stimulate a growth mindset?
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Mar 22 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1 Feedback is the fuel. Drives you forward.
#sblchat
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:10 PM EDT
#sblchat
A1:It's student self-monitoring and given permission 2 change/revise/lrn in light of what they find that empowers mindset
In reply to @RoweRikW
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Arthur, welcome back, friend!
#sblchat
In reply to @hhschiaravalli
HarkinsEDU
Mar 22 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1 - Feedback is real world. We try something, get feedback, do it again. Those who crave feedback are set up for success
#sblchat
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Dave, teacher educator in NW IA in and out of
#sblchat
tonight.
MikeSzczepanik
Mar 22 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1 - Without feedback ... it's like driving without direction or GPS
#sblchat
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:10 PM EDT
#sblchat
I would say feedback itself doesn't empower growth mindset so much as being encouraged, given tools to act, that does.
In reply to @RoweRikW
VedderAaron
Mar 22 @ 9:10 PM EDT
#sblchat
A1: A grade stops the learning process. Feedback makes it continuous.
In reply to @RoweRikW
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1: if feedback is too infrequent, adequate preparation for the summative is challenging and lacking
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Jodi, we're pleased to welcome you tonight!
#sblchat
In reply to @jodidevries
KatieBudrow
Mar 22 @ 9:11 PM EDT
I had a driving analogy too!
#greatminds
#sblchat
In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
jodidevries
Mar 22 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1: feedback helps us to become aware of areas w/ a pressing need for growth & provides the tools for getting from point A to pt B
#sblchat
giveawayvtech
Mar 22 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1: if feedback is too infrequent, adequate preparation for the summative is challenging and lacking
#sblchat
kenoc7
Mar 22 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1 Feedback should focus on strengths and areas for improvement so it is encouraging and supportive.(e.g., 2 stars and a wish)
#sblchat
drangelapeery
Mar 22 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1: Frequent feedback helps ea learner understand growth. Growth always synonymous w learning.
#sblchat
SoperWritings
Mar 22 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1 - if Ss can't see and feel their growth they will never fully buy in to a growth-based mindset
#sblchat
KRScienceLady
Mar 22 @ 9:11 PM EDT
a1 Timely feedback lets students know you are invested in them, students know their learnng is important to you
#sblchat
amanda_glover
Mar 22 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
A1) Frequent and immediate feedback allows students to target their energy toward improvement, helps with motivation!
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:11 PM EDT
BAM!!
#sblchat
VedderAaron
Mar 22 @ 9:10 PM EDT
#sblchat
A1: A grade stops the learning process. Feedback makes it continuous.
In reply to @RoweRikW
RESP3CTtheGAME
Mar 22 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1 Important to provide frequent feedback to keep learner & teacher focused on goals & next steps for growth. Maintains connection
#sblchat
JenVanFleet
Mar 22 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Hi,
#sblchat
! My first time here. Jen from Iowa. Our district is making the shift to SBL.
HCKoe42
Mar 22 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1 - Frequent Feedback provides students the opportunities to ry again making good and necessary changes
#sblchat
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1: Not sure that feedback *causes* a growth mindset, but Iād suspect there is a correlation. Real feedback helps you grow!
#sblchat
hornsclassroom
Mar 22 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Absolutely agree- feedback empowers Ss!
#sblchat
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:10 PM EDT
#sblchat
A1:It's student self-monitoring and given permission 2 change/revise/lrn in light of what they find that empowers mindset
In reply to @RoweRikW
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1: The key is frequent. The more we give it and the less we grade the more our Ss grow.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Our Learners deserve immediate Feedback, whenever possible!
#sblchat
amanda_glover
Mar 22 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
A1) Frequent and immediate feedback allows students to target their energy toward improvement, helps with motivation!
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
MrCsajko
Mar 22 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1: First timer in
#sblchat
but frequent feedback allows students to build a foundation for learning and continue to cognitively climb
BradLatzke
Mar 22 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Frequent feedback always reminds me of good coaching (sports, fine arts). Instructive, supportive, real-time.
#sblchat
r_medema
Mar 22 @ 9:12 PM EDT
was peep an intentional pun?
#sblchat
In reply to @d_mulder, @RoweRikW, @garnet_hillman
KatieBudrow
Mar 22 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Welcome Jen! My district transitioned this year, but I had crossed over a few years ago. It's a worthy change!
#sblchat
In reply to @JenVanFleet
jodidevries
Mar 22 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1: frequent feedback helps scaffold learning, which makes growth feel more attainable.
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Mar 22 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Welcome aboard!
#sblchat
In reply to @MrCsajko
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:12 PM EDT
#sblchat
A1:Agreed, but 'want to be careful on who provides that fdbk. Overemphasis on external validation/prgrss undermines
In reply to @mrscienceteach
ESMDayton
Mar 22 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1 Feedback simultaneously fosters relationships.
#sblchat
AggieSalterITS
Mar 22 @ 9:13 PM EDT
a1 to check 4 understanding adjust our instructions to push our ss to their fullest potential
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
kiddomapp
Mar 22 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Frequent feedback means you can focus on progress & small gains
#sblchat
rclarkeducation
Mar 22 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1: feedback encourages Ss to continue... that they are "seen"
#sblchat
JenVanFleet
Mar 22 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1: Mindfulness is everything. A dependable source of feedback adds perspective to our inner dialogues. So important for growth.
#sblchat
datiepriest
Mar 22 @ 9:13 PM EDT
#sblchat
A1 Feedback is an important tool in helping Ss make sense of their learning.
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Vroom, Vroom!
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Mar 22 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1 Feedback is the fuel. Drives you forward.
#sblchat
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:13 PM EDT
#sblchat
Also, would there be any downside to frqnt feedback on how one is progressing toward a goal? Any situa to avoid it?
In reply to @mrscienceteach
hornsclassroom
Mar 22 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1) feedback tells Ss "I see what you've done and I notice your efforts"
#sblchat
mrscienceteach
Mar 22 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Yes! I always compare feedback to the little nudges and corrections that coaches do minute to minute.
#sblchat
BradLatzke
Mar 22 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Frequent feedback always reminds me of good coaching (sports, fine arts). Instructive, supportive, real-time.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Guiding Instruction each day!
#sblchat
AggieSalterITS
Mar 22 @ 9:13 PM EDT
a1 to check 4 understanding adjust our instructions to push our ss to their fullest potential
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Frequent feedbackāand TRUE feedback (specific, actionable, and timely)āis essential for student growth!
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1: The key is frequent. The more we give it and the less we grade the more our Ss grow.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:14 PM EDT
This is great!
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Mar 22 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1 - Without feedback ... it's like driving without direction or GPS
#sblchat
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:14 PM EDT
#sblchat
This is one BIG reason why teachers need to assess student work instead of "outsourcing" that job.
In reply to @ESMDayton
r_medema
Mar 22 @ 9:14 PM EDT
frequent feedback = small increments...think little train that could
#sblchat
In reply to @d_mulder
KRScienceLady
Mar 22 @ 9:14 PM EDT
and sense making is what it is all about
#sblchat
datiepriest
Mar 22 @ 9:13 PM EDT
#sblchat
A1 Feedback is an important tool in helping Ss make sense of their learning.
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1: on my best day, the feedback for the entire class is the catalyst for instruction.
#sblchat
kiddomapp
Mar 22 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1: Frequent feedback means you can focus on progress & small gains
#sblchat
drangelapeery
Mar 22 @ 9:14 PM EDT
And I would add accurate. Don't sugarcoat or use vague praise. Refer to criteria.
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q2 in one minute...
#sblchat
to
#StimulateGrowth
jodidevries
Mar 22 @ 9:15 PM EDT
True - it helps make growth be more visible.
#sblchat
In reply to @SoperWritings
VedderAaron
Mar 22 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Amen! Feedback requires trust to be effective.
#sblchat
In reply to @rickwormeli2, @ESMDayton
JenVanFleet
Mar 22 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A1: Also, it's important to note feedback goes in all directions: S to S, T to S, S to T, T to T. Use it to inform instruction.
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Mar 22 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Love this. I often refer to myself as a coach in the classroom. Students agree.
#sblchat
In reply to @BradLatzke
pearse_margie
Mar 22 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A1:Feedback in the form of "glows & grows" gives Ss positive feedback on successes & growth points for all as we are still growing
#sblchat
HCKoe42
Mar 22 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Amen. Feedback is one of the best ways to foster the growth of genuine trust
#sblchat
In reply to @VedderAaron, @rickwormeli2, @ESMDayton
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Kindly welcome Jen {
@JenVanFleet
} to
#sblchat
Tonight! Her district is headed to SBL/G!
In reply to @JenVanFleet
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Q2 - How might you create a Culture of Feedback using
#FeedForward
(feedback up front) to focus on your learning targets?
#sblchat
hornsclassroom
Mar 22 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1) Giving feedback to Ss also helps Ts grow- I have a better understanding of where I'm going if I know where they are
#sblchat
kenoc7
Mar 22 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A! And so it fits with Pinkās second key to intrinsic motivation - mastery = seeing yourself getting better.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:16 PM EDT
This!!
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1: The key is frequent. The more we give it and the less we grade the more our Ss grow.
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:16 PM EDT
I love his book!
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7
jodidevries
Mar 22 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Interesting question! I wonder if too much would just feel like micro managing and de-motivate?
#sblchat
In reply to @rickwormeli2, @mrscienceteach
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 - We're learning from
@plugusin
&
@mrscienceteach
to offer clear and exemplary evidence so Learners know what to reach for.
#sblchat
In reply to @plugusin, @mrscienceteach
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Please welcome {
@MrCsajko
} as yet another first-timer to
#sblchat
Tonight!
In reply to @MrCsajko
pearse_margie
Mar 22 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A1 And assigning a homework packet/menu on Monday for homework due on Friday may not give Ss the frequent feedback they need
#sblchat
datiepriest
Mar 22 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@rickwormeli2
I "clutched my pearls" at the notion of teachers not assessing student work.āŗ
#sblchat
In reply to @rickwormeli2
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:14 PM EDT
#sblchat
This is one BIG reason why teachers need to assess student work instead of "outsourcing" that job.
In reply to @ESMDayton
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2: Iām wondering about
#feedfoward
as opposed to
#feedback
ā¦ how does this work in practice? (I like the sound of itā¦)
#sblchat
jodidevries
Mar 22 @ 9:17 PM EDT
not just effort, but also growth. Helps make growth visible.
#sblchat
In reply to @hornsclassroom
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Relationships are SO vital FOR Learning!
#sblchat
ESMDayton
Mar 22 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1 Feedback simultaneously fosters relationships.
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Mar 22 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Listening carefully here
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Q2 - How might you create a Culture of Feedback using
#FeedForward
(feedback up front) to focus on your learning targets?
#sblchat
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2: Pass back paper day lasts all hour. The feedback is actionable and the action is taken immediately
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:18 PM EDT
RT Q2 - How might you create a Culture of Feedback using
#FeedForward
(feedback up front) to focus on your learning targets?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Ownership!
#sblchat
datiepriest
Mar 22 @ 9:13 PM EDT
#sblchat
A1 Feedback is an important tool in helping Ss make sense of their learning.
hornsclassroom
Mar 22 @ 9:18 PM EDT
You're absolutely right!
#sblchat
In reply to @jodidevries
drangelapeery
Mar 22 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2. Describing targets as well as possible is important. We all need to know where we're going before we get in the car.
#sblchat
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:18 PM EDT
#sblchat
Maybe.
@ddmeyer
and others caution that immediate fdbck on each step can thwart deeper thinking.
In reply to @jodidevries, @mrscienceteach, @ddmeyer
SylviaEllison
Mar 22 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 I comm my expectations "now that you have shown proficiency in ... I expect it every day ... we must maintain our success"
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Q2 - How might you create a Culture of Feedback using
#FeedForward
(feedback up front) to focus on your learning targets?
#sblchat
HarkinsEDU
Mar 22 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 - Using models and pointing out strengths to match targets sets the stage from the beginning. No secret on what is the goal
#sblchat
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Lots of new faces in
#sblchat
tonight!
#DC508
, if youāre around and not already chatting, jump in here!
KRScienceLady
Mar 22 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 setting learning targets with students hel[s students know what they need to do to achieve proficiency. 1/2
#sblchat
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: The words, without any numbers, are returned and processed as a whole class. Kids get guided instruction on what to do w/ words
#sblchat
kenoc7
Mar 22 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 - Create a culture of feedback -no scores, just descriptive feedback while learning is ongoing.
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Mar 22 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Yes! Coaching puts the focus on each individual and what they need.
#couldntagreemore
#sblchat
In reply to @SoperWritings, @BradLatzke
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:19 PM EDT
That is very helpful! Thanks for sharing. Iām trying to picture what
#feedforward
looks like in practice.
#sblchat
In reply to @HarkinsEDU
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Great, now I have that thought in my head!
#sblchat
r_medema
Mar 22 @ 9:14 PM EDT
frequent feedback = small increments...think little train that could
#sblchat
In reply to @d_mulder
mrscienceteach
Mar 22 @ 9:19 PM EDT
#FeedForward
is about knowing the destination as well as how far along the route you are
#DrivingAnalogiesEverywhere
#sblchat
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:19 PM EDT
#sblchat
I'm a big believer in percolation, tinkering, sense of playing, stretching ideas before fdbk
@ddmeyer
In reply to @jodidevries, @mrscienceteach, @ddmeyer
HCKoe42
Mar 22 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Why is it that I found it was easier to
#feedforward
when I was coaching than I do in my classroom?
#sblchat
In reply to @d_mulder
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:19 PM EDT
#sblchat
Fdbk can come across as judgement, even tho not intended, and this shuts down exploration, risk-taking
In reply to @jodidevries, @mrscienceteach
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Trust is paramount FOR Learning!
#sblchat
VedderAaron
Mar 22 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Amen! Feedback requires trust to be effective.
#sblchat
In reply to @rickwormeli2, @ESMDayton
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2: How do we involve students in this process? Should we involve students in this process?
#sblchat
KRScienceLady
Mar 22 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 setting learning targets with students hel[s students know what they need to do to achieve proficiency. 1/2
#sblchat
KRScienceLady
Mar 22 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A/2
#feedforward
also enables students to identify potential challenges and ask for needed scaffolds
#sblchat
rclarkeducation
Mar 22 @ 9:20 PM EDT
It is so difficult to do this well... giving timely, accurate, truthful feedback.
#sblchat
In reply to @rickwormeli2, @ESMDayton
Yo_Mista
Mar 22 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2:
#feedforward
can only happen when teachers are unburdened and equipped with tools to support Ss when they need it
#sblchat
SoperWritings
Mar 22 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2 - using
#latic
structures like choice-driven activity lists & unit rubrics allows Ss to self assess and steer their own growth
#sblchat
KarlBaresel
Mar 22 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2 I find that using lots of models is helpful. Show students what feedback the models would receive.
#sblchat
jodidevries
Mar 22 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Yeah, it's empowering and necessary for Ss to NOT rely on T for validation for every move.
#sblchat
In reply to @rickwormeli2, @mrscienceteach, @ddmeyer
VedderAaron
Mar 22 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Exemplars! Critiquing exemplars, then co-create success criteria with students. Big thing in Ontario education right now.
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
JenVanFleet
Mar 22 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2: I'm not familiar with feedback up front. Here to learn.
#sblchat
j_ozbolt
Mar 22 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2 get Ss used to providing feedback for each other. The more it is used the more Ss get comfortable with it and are willing to use
#sblchat
datiepriest
Mar 22 @ 9:20 PM EDT
#sblchat
A2 The
#FeedForward
concept would allow for more authentic dialogue...which will promote reflective thinking and open discussion
KatieBudrow
Mar 22 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2 Feedback needs to be actionable, especially in the start of the learning. Cool, you are here -but this is where you can go next!
#sblchat
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2: "I am so excited to share how everyone did so that we know what to do next" is one of my most common phrases in class
#sblchat
pearse_margie
Mar 22 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2. Sometimes I had last year's Ss visit and chat in small groups when it came to expectations on PBL or long term investigation
#sblchat
HarkinsEDU
Mar 22 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2 - The end of the process may be too late.
#sblchat
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Right? It seems like a good fit in a coaching setting. Could we see our role as teachers as a sort of classroom coaching?
#sblchat
In reply to @HCKoe42
VedderAaron
Mar 22 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2:
#sblchat
VedderAaron
Mar 22 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Exemplars! Critiquing exemplars, then co-create success criteria with students. Big thing in Ontario education right now.
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
MrCsajko
Mar 22 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Someone once told me... "Go out on a limb, it's where the fruit is."
#sblchat
@rickwormeli2
@jodidevries
@mrscienceteach
In reply to @rickwormeli2, @jodidevries, @mrscienceteach
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Feedforward sets Ss on a direct course to learn.
#sblchat
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2: When kids learn the value of
#feedforward
they tend to crave it more than numbers or letter grades
#sblchat
KarlBaresel
Mar 22 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2 Rethink the assignments we are giving. If feedback is not a priority, is the assignment really worth the time?
#sblchat
WillCounty92
Mar 22 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Could not agree more. At every grade level and stage of life.
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:21 PM EDT
#sblchat
I much prefer that word, "timely," rather than immediate. The time for fdbk can come later and help.
In reply to @rclarkeducation, @ESMDayton
jodidevries
Mar 22 @ 9:21 PM EDT
I'm confused. Can you clarify a bit more what you mean by "feecback up front?"
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
hornsclassroom
Mar 22 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2) preassessment is invaluable to feedback from the start- every S should know their starting point
#sblchat
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Same here! This is a good group for learningā¦ :-)
#sblchat
In reply to @JenVanFleet
pearse_margie
Mar 22 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2: we form peer coaching partners and have time during the week for check ins
#sblchat
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:22 PM EDT
This is fantastic!
#sblchat
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2: "I am so excited to share how everyone did so that we know what to do next" is one of my most common phrases in class
#sblchat
JenVanFleet
Mar 22 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Also, hi neighbor! Quad Cities here.
#sblchat
In reply to @d_mulder
sandeeteach
Mar 22 @ 9:22 PM EDT
I need to know this too :)
#sblchat
In reply to @jodidevries, @RoweRikW
MeganCMoMo
Mar 22 @ 9:22 PM EDT
So true. They don't miss the grade or the percent or the points.
#sblchat
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2: When kids learn the value of
#feedforward
they tend to crave it more than numbers or letter grades
#sblchat
HCKoe42
Mar 22 @ 9:22 PM EDT
I try...Maybe i just had a better idea of the destination when coaching...I find myself desiring to learn so much more!!
#sblchat
In reply to @d_mulder
KatieBudrow
Mar 22 @ 9:22 PM EDT
I like timely. A lot. :)
#sblchat
In reply to @rickwormeli2, @rclarkeducation, @ESMDayton
kenoc7
Mar 22 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Ontario or Ottawa? Ministry or OCDSB?
#sblchat
In reply to @VedderAaron, @RoweRikW
drangelapeery
Mar 22 @ 9:22 PM EDT
And w thar, we must get better at teaching our teachers how to be descriptive. Still see so much "good job" on papers
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Jen, check out the Great Read on creating a "Culture of Feedback" by
@plugusin
&
@mrscienceteach
#sblchat
https://t.co/tOw433mEoy
JenVanFleet
Mar 22 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2: I'm not familiar with feedback up front. Here to learn.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Q3 in one minute...
#sblchat
to
#StimulateGrowth
hhschiaravalli
Mar 22 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Not to get to Hegelian here, but the goal with feedback is intersubjectivity, mutuality, reciprocityānot master-slave dialectic
#sblchat
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A2: When giving exemplars for task, I also provide the feedback for that exemplar. Kids see FB on a model before they attempt task
#sblchat
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Right on!
#alwayslearning
#sblchat
In reply to @HCKoe42
JenVanFleet
Mar 22 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Thank you! I was just going to ask for someone to point me towards some good stuff.
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW, @plugusin, @mrscienceteach
KRScienceLady
Mar 22 @ 9:23 PM EDT
2/2 and then work with Ss to identify what Ss need to do to reach proficiency
#sblchat
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2: How do we involve students in this process? Should we involve students in this process?
#sblchat
KRScienceLady
Mar 22 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 setting learning targets with students hel[s students know what they need to do to achieve proficiency. 1/2
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Exactly. My son turns in tons of "assignments" & never receives fdback or sees the papers. No learning from them.
#sblchat
In reply to @KarlBaresel
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Recognize now and chart a plan.
#sblchat
In reply to @KatieBudrow
RESP3CTtheGAME
Mar 22 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A2 Effective
#feedforward
culture asks questions (rather than tell) to initiate learner thought early & throughout learning process
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Q3 - How can
#FeedForward
(feedback up front) engage Learners to develop a deeper Growth Mindset?
#sblchat
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this! This is very helpful for me picturing what it would look like in practice.
#sblchat
In reply to @KRScienceLady
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:24 PM EDT
When we provide the direction or the target, Learners are not playing catch-up.
#sblchat
In reply to @sandeeteach, @jodidevries
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:24 PM EDT
#sblchat
Absolutely! In the same planning breath as designing assignments, ask, "How will sts get fdbk on this?"
In reply to @KarlBaresel
WillCounty92
Mar 22 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A2. When learning is the motivation, feedback has a different meaning for Ts and Ss.
#sblchat
VedderAaron
Mar 22 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Ontario (in Hamilton, just Ottawa born and raised!. Ministry is pushing for Learning Goals and Success Criteria
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7, @RoweRikW
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:24 PM EDT
So true.
#sblchat
In reply to @HarkinsEDU
ESMDayton
Mar 22 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A2 Assessing student understanding without judgement allows us to finalize our road map
#sblchat
drangelapeery
Mar 22 @ 9:24 PM EDT
And I have ideas about how to help you go!
#sblchat
In reply to @KatieBudrow
SylviaEllison
Mar 22 @ 9:24 PM EDT
I catch myself with that .. so I draw an ā¬ļø & tell why 2-3 reasons of evidence
#sblchat
āŗ
drangelapeery
Mar 22 @ 9:22 PM EDT
And w thar, we must get better at teaching our teachers how to be descriptive. Still see so much "good job" on papers
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:24 PM EDT
I want some fruit.
#sblchat
MrCsajko
Mar 22 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Someone once told me... "Go out on a limb, it's where the fruit is."
#sblchat
@rickwormeli2
@jodidevries
@mrscienceteach
In reply to @rickwormeli2, @jodidevries, @mrscienceteach
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:24 PM EDT
HUGE!!
#sblchat
datiepriest
Mar 22 @ 9:20 PM EDT
#sblchat
A2 The
#FeedForward
concept would allow for more authentic dialogue...which will promote reflective thinking and open discussion
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3 - When our Learners know what is expected (targets), they're less likely to be playing catch-up on our Learning.
#sblchat
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:25 PM EDT
This is a real problem. Maybe fewer āassignmentsā and more opportunities to think deeplyāand get real feedback?
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Exactly. My son turns in tons of "assignments" & never receives fdback or sees the papers. No learning from them.
#sblchat
In reply to @KarlBaresel
KRScienceLady
Mar 22 @ 9:25 PM EDT
WOW! This is so very cool. Can I steal and share ?
#sblchat
(giving you credit of course )
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2: "I am so excited to share how everyone did so that we know what to do next" is one of my most common phrases in class
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:25 PM EDT
One of the focus areas of my classroom. Working on a website with questioning & activities for
#FeedForward
culture
#sblchat
In reply to @RESP3CTtheGAME
KatieBudrow
Mar 22 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Yes!
#loveagoodplan
#sblchat
In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3: "Don't stress how you are going to perform; I will help you grow with FB" sets the
#growthmindset
tone.
#sblchat
datiepriest
Mar 22 @ 9:25 PM EDT
#sblchat
@drangelapeery
You are spot on...the
#adultlearning
piece has to be part of the equation
#engagementmatters
In reply to @drangelapeery
drangelapeery
Mar 22 @ 9:22 PM EDT
And w thar, we must get better at teaching our teachers how to be descriptive. Still see so much "good job" on papers
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7
pearse_margie
Mar 22 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A2: I would do some preteaching for things coming up. I'd have breakfast in my room &share expectations before the release in class
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Mar 22 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Exactly. Lots and lots of ideas! :)
#sblchat
In reply to @drangelapeery
KarlBaresel
Mar 22 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3 Help Ss to realize that learning is not a destination, but a journey. The 'grade' is not the final word.
#sblchat
jodidevries
Mar 22 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Oh! Ha! I thought that was the norm! Wishful thinking, I guess?
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW, @sandeeteach
kenoc7
Mar 22 @ 9:25 PM EDT
https://t.co/FtBJ82VEo8
#sblchat
In reply to @mrscienceteach, @drangelapeery
kenoc7
Mar 22 @ 9:25 PM EDT
https://t.co/AASbuLEGps
#sblchat
In reply to @mrscienceteach, @drangelapeery
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:25 PM EDT
So Hungry NOW!
#sblchat
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2: When kids learn the value of
#feedforward
they tend to crave it more than numbers or letter grades
#sblchat
MrCsajko
Mar 22 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3: I think it presents a challenge. This is exactly the type of motivation Daniel Pink discusses in his book Drive.
#sblchat
VedderAaron
Mar 22 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Why do we need to do so many different assignments? Don't we learn from drafting too? (with feedback!)
#sblchat
In reply to @d_mulder
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:26 PM EDT
RT Q3 - How can
#FeedForward
(feedback up front) engage Learners to develop a Growth Mindset?
#sblchat
TheProblemBot
Mar 22 @ 9:26 PM EDT
#sblchat
United States ā¬250,000 for the American peoā¦
SoperWritings
Mar 22 @ 9:26 PM EDT
...so many driving metaphors
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:26 PM EDT
I'm still learning this...
#sblchat
hornsclassroom
Mar 22 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2) preassessment is invaluable to feedback from the start- every S should know their starting point
#sblchat
HarkinsEDU
Mar 22 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 - Ss know why they are doing something, and its not just for compliance or a grade. There is a reason I am asking you to work!
#sblchat
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3: Charting, graphing, logging FB helps kids process the process of growing from miscues and embellishing successes
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Questions help Ss come to their own conclusion.
#sblchat
In reply to @RESP3CTtheGAME
RESP3CTtheGAME
Mar 22 @ 9:26 PM EDT
That's excellent! Please share link when ready
#sblchat
In reply to @TTmomTT
hornsclassroom
Mar 22 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3) When I'm given indiv feedback, I focus on my growth and not everyone else- I have my own action plan
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Mar 22 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Awesome. Always going back to that why.
#sblchat
In reply to @HarkinsEDU
PeaceLoveMHeine
Mar 22 @ 9:26 PM EDT
..
#sblchat
???
JustinAion
Mar 22 @ 10:55 AM EDT
At the beginning of the year someone sent link to a district-wide SBG Excel Gradebook. It was overwhelming, but I need it now
hhschiaravalli
Mar 22 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A2. Agree!
#feedback
shouldn't result in passive recipients. Ultimately, self-regulated learners.
#sblchat
RESP3CTtheGAME
Mar 22 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A2 Effective
#feedforward
culture asks questions (rather than tell) to initiate learner thought early & throughout learning process
#sblchat
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3: (My tentative thoughtsā¦)
#feedforward
might help Ss set better personal goals, and better self-assess strengths/weaknesses.
#sblchat
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:27 PM EDT
This. So much this!
#sblchat
VedderAaron
Mar 22 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Why do we need to do so many different assignments? Don't we learn from drafting too? (with feedback!)
#sblchat
In reply to @d_mulder
drangelapeery
Mar 22 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Our teachers must be continuous learners in order to best help our younger learners, the kiddos.
#sblchat
In reply to @datiepriest
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:27 PM EDT
#sblchat
I get the intent here, but could we change, "everyone" to the class in general? Sounds like we're revealing indvl perf
In reply to @Aricfoster2
KarlBaresel
Mar 22 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3 grading as more of a fluid conversation. You might need be at proficiency yet, but what ?s can u ask to get there?
#sblchat
jodidevries
Mar 22 @ 9:27 PM EDT
What's the saying? Ss can hit a target when they can see it and it holds still for them? - helps w/ grwth mindset b/c it's doable!
#sblchat
rclarkeducation
Mar 22 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Exemplars gives a language for Ss to be able to critique. It takes a lot of practice!
#sblchat
In reply to @VedderAaron, @RoweRikW
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:27 PM EDT
#STOPIT
Please!
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Exactly. My son turns in tons of "assignments" & never receives fdback or sees the papers. No learning from them.
#sblchat
In reply to @KarlBaresel
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Working on launching it this week. It won't be "full" of content YET, but a work in progress.
#sblchat
In reply to @RESP3CTtheGAME
KRScienceLady
Mar 22 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3 I havn't learned this yet ....
#sblchat
pearse_margie
Mar 22 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3: It provides better access to learning by setting the stage so all have an entry. That's gives Ss hope.
#sblchat
kenoc7
Mar 22 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Twitter needs a sad or angry button.
#sblchat
In reply to @TTmomTT, @KarlBaresel
Yo_Mista
Mar 22 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3
#feedforward
and growth mindset are buzz phrases without proper routines and norms for Ss to be instrinsically motivated
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:28 PM EDT
When Ss are setting the goal.
#whatschoolisabout
.
#sblchat
In reply to @d_mulder
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:28 PM EDT
#sblchat
The portion, "...so we now what to do next,"is so pivotal and motivating, I just don't want to threaten sts w/exposure
In reply to @Aricfoster2
datiepriest
Mar 22 @ 9:28 PM EDT
#sblchat
A3 Providing timely feedback gives the Ss a place to grow and helps them become resilient when developing a growth mindset.
HCKoe42
Mar 22 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A 3 - I think
#feedfoward
allows students to take ownership and allows for more opportunities for choice(s)...
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:28 PM EDT
So Profound!
#sblchat
WillCounty92
Mar 22 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A2. When learning is the motivation, feedback has a different meaning for Ts and Ss.
#sblchat
KRScienceLady
Mar 22 @ 9:28 PM EDT
BAM !
#sblchat
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3: (My tentative thoughtsā¦)
#feedforward
might help Ss set better personal goals, and better self-assess strengths/weaknesses.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:28 PM EDT
We can all practice....
#sblchat
rclarkeducation
Mar 22 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Exemplars gives a language for Ss to be able to critique. It takes a lot of practice!
#sblchat
In reply to @VedderAaron, @RoweRikW
mrscienceteach
Mar 22 @ 9:29 PM EDT
At what age do we expect students to manage feedback independently?
#sblchat
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:29 PM EDT
#Sblchat
Should be, "know," not, "now." Sorry!
In reply to @Aricfoster2
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:29 PM EDT
No one starts at proficiency and there is no finish. It is a journey.
#sblchat
In reply to @KarlBaresel
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:29 PM EDT
And what if this was the norm, instead of the dream? That might look different, eh?
#sblchat
HarkinsEDU
Mar 22 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Students self reflecting and self assessing is a thing of beauty!
@sblchat
In reply to @d_mulder
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Drive by
@DanielPink
#sblchat
In reply to @DanielPink
MrCsajko
Mar 22 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3: I think it presents a challenge. This is exactly the type of motivation Daniel Pink discusses in his book Drive.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Like this tweet if you are new to
#sblchat
so we can welcome you to our discussion on how to
#StimulateGrowth
in Standards-Based Learning!
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:30 PM EDT
#sblchat
That is Rick Stiggins' wisdom! :-)
In reply to @jodidevries
rggillespie
Mar 22 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3: If students know where they're going they'll be more engaged and their understanding will be deeper
#sblchat
kiddomapp
Mar 22 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3: Checking in with students regularly instead of after they āfailā shows them that they can learn from critique.
#sblchat
SoperWritings
Mar 22 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3 - adding motivational pieces like
#gamification
can help draw Ss into the fray of striving for growth
#sblchat
https://t.co/e6RbimJTL0
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:30 PM EDT
#udlchat
#sblchat
pearse_margie
Mar 22 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3: It provides better access to learning by setting the stage so all have an entry. That's gives Ss hope.
#sblchat
SylviaEllison
Mar 22 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3 - I think - find feedback in the moment saves me time ā¬ļø grading ... also find comm with parents for 1h/night helps with fb too
#sblchat
VedderAaron
Mar 22 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Or, at what point in our creation of a culture of feedback do we expect S's to be able to do this?
#sblchat
In reply to @mrscienceteach
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Wow!
#sblchat
hornsclassroom
Mar 22 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3) When I'm given indiv feedback, I focus on my growth and not everyone else- I have my own action plan
#sblchat
KRScienceLady
Mar 22 @ 9:30 PM EDT
So agree
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:29 PM EDT
No one starts at proficiency and there is no finish. It is a journey.
#sblchat
In reply to @KarlBaresel
RobLunak
Mar 22 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3 they know what they don't know, and it's presented as part of the process. Learning becomes more than a grade
#sblchat
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:30 PM EDT
#sblchat
I'm looking for an off ramp to re-group and check my GPS.
In reply to @SoperWritings
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Q4 in one minute...
#sblchat
to
#StimulateGrowth
FAs = Formative Assessments
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:31 PM EDT
This!
#sblchat
drangelapeery
Mar 22 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Our teachers must be continuous learners in order to best help our younger learners, the kiddos.
#sblchat
In reply to @datiepriest
KatieBudrow
Mar 22 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Depends on the S. Probably also depends on content too. There are things I process solo. Others, I'll need help w/.
#sblchat
In reply to @mrscienceteach
kenoc7
Mar 22 @ 9:31 PM EDT
From the great Rick Stiggins.
#sblchat
In reply to @jodidevries
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Promote growth and goals. It takes a village.
#sblchat
In reply to @kiddomapp
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:31 PM EDT
I ask my four year old, "What is dada going to tell you now? What should you have done?" HE gets it. HA
#sblchat
In reply to @mrscienceteach
jodidevries
Mar 22 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Thank you!! I knew it was the bow-tie guy but couldn't remember his name! :D
#sblchat
In reply to @rickwormeli2
rggillespie
Mar 22 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3: Students will be more reflective and more able to monitor their own progress.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Please welcome Margie {
@pearse_margie
} to our
#sblchat
conversation Tonight!
In reply to @pearse_margie
drangelapeery
Mar 22 @ 9:31 PM EDT
I'm with u. Sick of empty buzz words; tuned in for depth. Some Ts wouldn't know effective feedbk if it bit em on the...
#sblchat
In reply to @Yo_Mista
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Q4 - Reflect on how frequent Retrieval Practice or FAs can stimulate more conversation for growth toward your learning targets.
#sblchat
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:32 PM EDT
#sblchat
Absolutely, Reed, and 'supported by much of what we know about self-efficacy and motivation research.
In reply to @rggillespie
mrscienceteach
Mar 22 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Fdbk comes in many forms. Complexity varies, right?
#sblchat
In reply to @TeachingSpeaks
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Kindly welcome Kathleen {
@kathleenagnello
} to our
#sblchat
conversation tonight!
In reply to @kathleenagnello
kenoc7
Mar 22 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Age appropriate feedback starts in kindergarten.
#sblchat
In reply to @mrscienceteach
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Related to
#feedforward
, this was part of my lesson in science methods today: āThe Learning Cycleā
https://t.co/djdCXGOPBa
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:32 PM EDT
When Ss can monitor they are owners of learning for the rest of their lives.
#sblchat
In reply to @rggillespie
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Me too, Ralph!
#sblchat
r_medema
Mar 22 @ 9:32 PM EDT
okay. observation...this goes fast! I'm a bit overwhelmed with the waterfall!
In reply to @d_mulder, @RoweRikW
pearse_margie
Mar 22 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A3: Here's my favorite alternative to typical HW. Really helped promote self-efficacy, agency, & motivation in my Ss
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A4: FAs allow Ss to see where they are but too often and it can frustrate or discourage Ss.
#sblchat
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A4: class polls and discussions of "Which LT do we 'get' now? Which need more practice?" adds SS voice to the data for future
#sblchat
SylviaEllison
Mar 22 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Umm ... ready to learn about these ideas? I'm amazed I have not heard of Retrieval Practice or FAs ... please school me āŗ
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Q4 - Reflect on how frequent Retrieval Practice or FAs can stimulate more conversation for growth toward your learning targets.
#sblchat
drangelapeery
Mar 22 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Retrieval practice/Roediger/Make It Stick changed my life. Required reading for educators!
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
RESP3CTtheGAME
Mar 22 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A3 Questions help learning culture become more reflective, self-directed. Learners create solutions. Self-efficacy. Growth
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:34 PM EDT
RT Q4 - Reflect on how frequent Retrieval Practice or FAs can stimulate more conversation for growth toward your learning targets.
#sblchat
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Is their amount of discouragement related to putting numbers on FAs? I have seen that correlation, not causation though.
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A4: FAs allow Ss to see where they are but too often and it can frustrate or discourage Ss.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Love this! Ownership!
#sblchat
rggillespie
Mar 22 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3: Students will be more reflective and more able to monitor their own progress.
#sblchat
KarlBaresel
Mar 22 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Q4 Ss should never be summatively assessed w/o allowing first a formative assessment
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A4: Formative should be about inspiration. It tells Ss they will get there.
#sblchat
KRScienceLady
Mar 22 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Yes young children are very capable of receiving feedback and using that feedback to move learning forward .
#sblchat
kenoc7
Mar 22 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Age appropriate feedback starts in kindergarten.
#sblchat
In reply to @mrscienceteach
rggillespie
Mar 22 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Struggling learners, like lost drivers, often donāt realize they're struggling/lost. They need immediate feedback.
#sblchat
amanda_glover
Mar 22 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A4) Students identify the specific skill they need to practice. Many FA=kids will see a mixture of success & improvement.
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
HarkinsEDU
Mar 22 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4: Ss need 2 see FAs as grades for Ts, but a way to see where you are on the journey towards mastery. Change paradigm to practice!
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Mar 22 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4 A lot of my formatives are convos with Ss. Lots of inspiration/feedback from me to drive you forward!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Mine too, Angela!
#MakeItStick
changed how we practice!
#sblchat
drangelapeery
Mar 22 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Retrieval practice/Roediger/Make It Stick changed my life. Required reading for educators!
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
kenoc7
Mar 22 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Understood and facilitated properly they are more than buzzwords.
#sblchat
In reply to @Yo_Mista
MrCsajko
Mar 22 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4: Many aspects to FA that make or break the data: Length of FA, Time of Day, Day, etc.
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Polls.
#sblchat
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A4: class polls and discussions of "Which LT do we 'get' now? Which need more practice?" adds SS voice to the data for future
#sblchat
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:35 PM EDT
I would argue MANY FAs before summative & only do summative when they have shown success on FAs. Thoughts?
#sblchat
In reply to @KarlBaresel
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Even with just feedback some Ss feel discouraged if not enough time has passed for some growth to occur.
#sblchat
In reply to @Aricfoster2
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Many ways to get there too!
#sblchat
#udlchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A4: Formative should be about inspiration. It tells Ss they will get there.
#sblchat
kenoc7
Mar 22 @ 9:36 PM EDT
WOW!!!
#sblchat
pearse_margie
Mar 22 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A3: Here's my favorite alternative to typical HW. Really helped promote self-efficacy, agency, & motivation in my Ss
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Feedback should always be specific to where the Learner is!
#sblchat
kenoc7
Mar 22 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Age appropriate feedback starts in kindergarten.
#sblchat
In reply to @mrscienceteach
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:36 PM EDT
#stopit
.
#sblchat
KarlBaresel
Mar 22 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Q4 Ss should never be summatively assessed w/o allowing first a formative assessment
#sblchat
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4: Formative assessment is essential for growth. Do you all grade formative assessments? If so, *how* are they graded?
#sblchat
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:36 PM EDT
I've seen that too. Time AND extra practice for me. Learnzillion and Khan academy have helped me supplement this year
#sblchat
In reply to @TTmomTT
drangelapeery
Mar 22 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Saw Roediger present at a Learning & the Brain conference too. Highly recommend their events. Have been to 3.
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Yes! My co-moderator is using
#STOPIT
!
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:36 PM EDT
#stopit
.
#sblchat
KarlBaresel
Mar 22 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Q4 Ss should never be summatively assessed w/o allowing first a formative assessment
#sblchat
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:37 PM EDT
This seems like a wise generality for all educators.
#sblchat
KarlBaresel
Mar 22 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Q4 Ss should never be summatively assessed w/o allowing first a formative assessment
#sblchat
mrscienceteach
Mar 22 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Never factored into the average, but ALWAYS provide feedback to students
#sblchat
In reply to @d_mulder
KatieBudrow
Mar 22 @ 9:37 PM EDT
No grading for me. Only words.
#sblchat
In reply to @d_mulder
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:37 PM EDT
#sblchat
'Maybe just enough to keep them from harming themselves or others, but maybe there are times to let them wander a bit?
In reply to @rggillespie
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Love this.
#sblchat
HarkinsEDU
Mar 22 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4: Ss need 2 see FAs as grades for Ts, but a way to see where you are on the journey towards mastery. Change paradigm to practice!
#sblchat
HarkinsEDU
Mar 22 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Does a team get points or wins based on their performance in practice?
#sblchat
In reply to @d_mulder
amanda_glover
Mar 22 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4 part 2) Not to mention, students being well-informed of growth makes students feel in control of their learning
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
KRScienceLady
Mar 22 @ 9:37 PM EDT
I never grade formative assessment
#sblchat
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4: Formative assessment is essential for growth. Do you all grade formative assessments? If so, *how* are they graded?
#sblchat
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:37 PM EDT
in
#sblchat
FAs are kindapretests. I've found a post test chat&relearning is more valuable than an official pretest.
In reply to @r_medema, @KarlBaresel
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Check out the book
#MakeItStick
or follow
@RetrieveLearn
#sblchat
In reply to @RetrieveLearn
SylviaEllison
Mar 22 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Umm ... ready to learn about these ideas? I'm amazed I have not heard of Retrieval Practice or FAs ... please school me āŗ
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Q4 - Reflect on how frequent Retrieval Practice or FAs can stimulate more conversation for growth toward your learning targets.
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:38 PM EDT
We write a lot of our FA & practice activities so they are Ss directed. They ask for more practice all the time.
#sblchat
In reply to @Aricfoster2
SylviaEllison
Mar 22 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Do ... I gather FA = formative assessment (we would call Progress Monitoring?) ... but Retrieval Practice?
#sblchat
kenoc7
Mar 22 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Hopefully words only, NO scores.
#sblchat
In reply to @d_mulder
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Ownership again!
#sblchat
amanda_glover
Mar 22 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4 part 2) Not to mention, students being well-informed of growth makes students feel in control of their learning
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:38 PM EDT
#sblchat
'Have a feeling some tchrs bail sts out too quickly, afraid of misconceptions/bad feelings or something; sts hindered.
In reply to @rggillespie
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Learned from the best.
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
VedderAaron
Mar 22 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4: Formative assessments can be so many different things. Written reports to verbal check-ins. Very authentic way of working
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Questioning = Engagement!
#sblchat
RESP3CTtheGAME
Mar 22 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A3 Questions help learning culture become more reflective, self-directed. Learners create solutions. Self-efficacy. Growth
#sblchat
Yo_Mista
Mar 22 @ 9:38 PM EDT
that's the point. We need less jargon and more actionable training. Otherwise we become jaded to anything new.
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:38 PM EDT
My thoughts exactly. Feedback is essential. But a letter is pretty weak feedbackā¦
#sblchat
In reply to @HarkinsEDU
kdhowe1
Mar 22 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Apologies for crashing - is SBL assessed with SBG? If so, does someone have a primer to get me started?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:38 PM EDT
#STOPIT
#sblchat
#Humor
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Learned from the best.
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
KatieBudrow
Mar 22 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4 So for conversations as formatives, if anybody is looking for a great resource ... look here!
https://t.co/UTkSM6QXaV
#sblchat
pearse_margie
Mar 22 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4: Love conferences, but love them even more when they are led by the Ss
https://t.co/tkIX9iJ1EK
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Q5 in one minute...
#sblchat
to
#StimulateGrowth
FAs = Formative Assessments
rggillespie
Mar 22 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Definitely true in many cases but how far can we allow them to wander aimlessly? Depends...lots of variables
#sblchat
In reply to @rickwormeli2
datiepriest
Mar 22 @ 9:39 PM EDT
#sblchat
A4 FAs should serve as a roadmap of sorts for Ts to tweak instruction for Ss.
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Right on, brother. My thoughts exactly!
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:39 PM EDT
In awe...
#sblchat
rggillespie
Mar 22 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Struggling learners, like lost drivers, often donāt realize they're struggling/lost. They need immediate feedback.
#sblchat
WillCounty92
Mar 22 @ 9:39 PM EDT
FAs stimulate growth--but only in a culture where leaning is valued and positive relationships promote shared ownership for success
#sblchat
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:39 PM EDT
#sblchat
'Need a little Huck Finn/Tom Sawyer kind of lost in academics - still adventurous, but mistakes will be made.
In reply to @rggillespie
kdhowe1
Mar 22 @ 9:39 PM EDT
My school does student-led conference in MS. Love, love, love it!
#sblchat
In reply to @pearse_margie
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Absolutely not.
#sblchat
In reply to @HarkinsEDU, @d_mulder
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:39 PM EDT
I hope tonightās discussion might come into the faculty workroom at HC! :-)
#sblchat
In reply to @HCKoe42
AggieSalterITS
Mar 22 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A4 formative assessment is just checking for understanding & providing support 4 ss never for a final grade
#sblchat
In reply to @d_mulder
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:39 PM EDT
and for Ss to know what they need as well.
#sblchat
In reply to @datiepriest
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:39 PM EDT
HUGE!!
#sblchat
#MakeItStick
HarkinsEDU
Mar 22 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4: Ss need 2 see FAs as grades for Ts, but a way to see where you are on the journey towards mastery. Change paradigm to practice!
#sblchat
jodidevries
Mar 22 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Yes, words but not scores is impt in ensuring that it is used (by Ss & Ts) specifically as formative assessment.
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7, @d_mulder
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Q5 - How can we use ungraded FAs more often to close the gap between our Learnersā current understanding and the targets?
#sblchat
KRScienceLady
Mar 22 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Ditto that !
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Mar 22 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4 So for conversations as formatives, if anybody is looking for a great resource ... look here!
https://t.co/UTkSM6QXaV
#sblchat
HCKoe42
Mar 22 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Love this!
#sblchat
In reply to @rickwormeli2, @rggillespie
AggieSalterITS
Mar 22 @ 9:40 PM EDT
#sblchat
A4 once u put a grade on the assignment the learning stops
In reply to @d_mulder
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Isn't everything essentially formative?
#sblchat
VedderAaron
Mar 22 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4: Formative assessments can be so many different things. Written reports to verbal check-ins. Very authentic way of working
#sblchat
kdhowe1
Mar 22 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Going to push back a little. They need rapid and frequent feedback. Immediate doesn't allow time to reflect.
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
HCKoe42
Mar 22 @ 9:41 PM EDT
You bet. This is overwhelming, but so very good!
#sblchat
In reply to @d_mulder
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Understood, Kathy.
#sblchat
kdhowe1
Mar 22 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Going to push back a little. They need rapid and frequent feedback. Immediate doesn't allow time to reflect.
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
VedderAaron
Mar 22 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A5: In larger projects, this NEEDS to happen. S's don't want to get too far into a draft going the wrong direction.
#sblchat
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:41 PM EDT
FULLY AGREE with this. I wonder if this is the case outside of this group though? How many Ts still grade FAs?
#sblchat
In reply to @AggieSalterITS
pearse_margie
Mar 22 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Yes, NO Snowplow T'ers (smoothing the road so our Ss don't experience any of life's bumps along the way
#sblchat
In reply to @rickwormeli2, @rggillespie
MrCsajko
Mar 22 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Have to check out. Thanks for letting this first timer crash the
#sblchat
Great info shared!
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A5: Until recently my classroom was formative until semester end. Ss constantly monitored own understanding and adjusted for target
#sblchat
amanda_glover
Mar 22 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A5) Even if FA is ungraded, feedback should be noted by the teacher and student so intervention/enrichment can take place
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
KatieBudrow
Mar 22 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Had a conversation with
@garnet_hillman
about this today. We are always assessing formatively. :)
#sblchat
In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1, @garnet_hillman
hhschiaravalli
Mar 22 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A5: I use
@Seesaw
online portfolio platform to provide verbal feedback: description, strength, growth area. No scores.
#sblchat
In reply to @Seesaw
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Full. Stop.
#sblchat
AggieSalterITS
Mar 22 @ 9:40 PM EDT
#sblchat
A4 once u put a grade on the assignment the learning stops
In reply to @d_mulder
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:42 PM EDT
RT Q5 - How can we use ungraded FAs more often to close the gap between our Learnersā current understanding and the targets?
#sblchat
kirk_humphreys
Mar 22 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A5: When formative work is ungraded, Ss aren't afraid to fail. They turn in much higher quality work when compliance isn't a factor
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:42 PM EDT
We do them in the HS. I enjoy them too.
#sblchat
In reply to @kdhowe1, @pearse_margie
kdhowe1
Mar 22 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Yes and no. Once you put a grade on it, they feel judged. True FA is a safe place to make mistakes.
#sblchat
In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Maybe digital, when useful?
#sblchat
amanda_glover
Mar 22 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A5) Even if FA is ungraded, feedback should be noted by the teacher and student so intervention/enrichment can take place
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:42 PM EDT
I fully agree with you! The grade stops the learning!
#sblchat
In reply to @rclarkeducation
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:42 PM EDT
I do the same thing. All formative until I have to put in a final grade...cuz my job makes me. HA
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A5: Until recently my classroom was formative until semester end. Ss constantly monitored own understanding and adjusted for target
#sblchat
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:42 PM EDT
#sblchat
Yep. It's a fine line that comes from professional wisdom/experience, but also strong relationship/trust with student.
In reply to @rggillespie
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:42 PM EDT
I read ungraded as no permanent grade assigned in gradebook. Feedback can be current level.
#sblchat
In reply to @amanda_glover, @RoweRikW
VedderAaron
Mar 22 @ 9:42 PM EDT
It should be!
#sblchat
In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
rggillespie
Mar 22 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A5: The less we focus on grades--and the more we focus on feedback--the more students will be able to focus on growth and learning.
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:42 PM EDT
So true.
#sblchat
AggieSalterITS
Mar 22 @ 9:40 PM EDT
#sblchat
A4 once u put a grade on the assignment the learning stops
In reply to @d_mulder
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:42 PM EDT
SBL/G is Standards-Based Learning & Grading.
#sblchat
In reply to @kdhowe1
kenoc7
Mar 22 @ 9:43 PM EDT
"Ss need 2 see FAs as grades for Tsā What does this mean?
#sblchat
In reply to @HarkinsEDU
WillCounty92
Mar 22 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A5. I think the ultimate purpose of the FAs is to build that bridge. It is vital that Ss understand the role of FAs in learning.
#sblchat
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Great question, Ralph. Not sure what to say about thisā¦ :-/
#sblchat
In reply to @r_medema, @AggieSalterITS
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:43 PM EDT
I was required to change this practice right after Christmas. It has really discouraged my Ss.
#sblchat
In reply to @Aricfoster2
kirk_humphreys
Mar 22 @ 9:43 PM EDT
This!
#sblchat
rggillespie
Mar 22 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A5: The less we focus on grades--and the more we focus on feedback--the more students will be able to focus on growth and learning.
#sblchat
KRScienceLady
Mar 22 @ 9:43 PM EDT
FA is also for teacher, what does he/she need to do to change their instruction so ALL students can move forward
#sblchat
jodidevries
Mar 22 @ 9:43 PM EDT
I was just thinking the same thing! Every academic conversation w/ Ss etc = FA.
#sblchat
In reply to @KatieBudrow, @AaronSBlackwel1, @garnet_hillman
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:43 PM EDT
In PBL this is so important.
#sblchat
In reply to @VedderAaron
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Thank you!
#sblchat
datiepriest
Mar 22 @ 9:39 PM EDT
#sblchat
A4 FAs should serve as a roadmap of sorts for Ts to tweak instruction for Ss.
AggieSalterITS
Mar 22 @ 9:43 PM EDT
we r fully
#sbl
implemented no grades just standard rubrics s choice & voice 4 showing evidence 4 their understanding
#sblchat
In reply to @d_mulder
mrscienceteach
Mar 22 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Anyone used
@Kaizena
for verbal feedback on online work?
#sblchat
In reply to @hhschiaravalli, @Seesaw, @Kaizena
SylviaEllison
Mar 22 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A5 I'm using daily writing prompt (@ to move to short passage read/response) and provide daily feedback W/ my Visual Instru Plan
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Q5 - How can we use ungraded FAs more often to close the gap between our Learnersā current understanding and the targets?
#sblchat
kdhowe1
Mar 22 @ 9:43 PM EDT
My kids are so grade-oriented, I would expect lots of anxious emails if I tried that. Maybe I could ease in.
#sblchat
In reply to @Aricfoster2
rclarkeducation
Mar 22 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Q5: another "plug" for exemplars so that Ss can evaluate what they understand and what they don't in addition to Ts comments
#sblchat
VedderAaron
Mar 22 @ 9:44 PM EDT
How can we create a culture of feedback that includes changing grades after their entered?
#sblchat
In reply to @TTmomTT, @Aricfoster2
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:44 PM EDT
This is what I'm talking about. Everything is formative.
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A5: Until recently my classroom was formative until semester end. Ss constantly monitored own understanding and adjusted for target
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:44 PM EDT
@rggillespie
I say it all the time. Grades = end of learning for Ss. Feedback = continued learning.
#sblchat
In reply to @kirk_humphreys, @rggillespie
d_mulder
Mar 22 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Wish I could stay longer, friends! Thanks for having me,
#sblchat
.
@RoweRikW
and
@AaronSBlackwel1
, you guys are great moderators.
kenoc7
Mar 22 @ 9:44 PM EDT
No, at some point we make a judgment of achievement till now. Could change tomorrow.
#sblchat
In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:44 PM EDT
So true.
#sblchat
In reply to @KatieBudrow, @garnet_hillman
VedderAaron
Mar 22 @ 9:44 PM EDT
That's my context, and yessir!
#sblchat
In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
KarlBaresel
Mar 22 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5 SBL and feedback inspire interventions. Use FAs to determine the type of intervention needed. Give the Ss what they need.
#sblchat
amanda_glover
Mar 22 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Sure! I think all feedback formative & summative should be digital so trends are tracked doesn't have to impact end grade
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:45 PM EDT
This awesome FA culture breeding a growth mindset made me think of this
#sblchat
ESMDayton
Mar 22 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5 if you provide feedback with fidelity to standards summative assessment should affirm your continuous support and encouragement
#sblchat
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:45 PM EDT
#sblchat
No opportunity for civil disobedience, eh? 'Difficult decisions!
In reply to @TTmomTT, @Aricfoster2
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:45 PM EDT
See you Dave.
#sblchat
In reply to @d_mulder, @RoweRikW
AggieSalterITS
Mar 22 @ 9:45 PM EDT
ur drivers license doesn't state how many times it took u 2 get it neither should reaching a standard
#sblchat
In reply to @d_mulder, @r_medema
VedderAaron
Mar 22 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Can't stay for the rest of the convo, but loving
#sblchat
! Will be back to review the rest. Thanks all!
hhschiaravalli
Mar 22 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Not a huge fan of
@Kaizena
personally...I use Screencastify for more detailed in text feedback.
#sblchat
In reply to @mrscienceteach, @Seesaw, @Kaizena
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:45 PM EDT
#sblchat
Dave, you're the coolest of cool, man!
In reply to @d_mulder, @RoweRikW, @AaronSBlackwel1
SylviaEllison
Mar 22 @ 9:46 PM EDT
I called parents tonight (1 class / 1 he) & could speak intelligently about the 3 grades this quarter, conn to Standards, & needs
#sblchat
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:42 PM EDT
I do the same thing. All formative until I have to put in a final grade...cuz my job makes me. HA
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A5: Until recently my classroom was formative until semester end. Ss constantly monitored own understanding and adjusted for target
#sblchat
Yo_Mista
Mar 22 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5 more ungraded FAs implies less graded As. Given constraints of classrooms, it's on school leaders to 1st shape a culture of this
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:46 PM EDT
For the purpose of a term/semester. But Ss continue learning throughout their lives.
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7
jodidevries
Mar 22 @ 9:46 PM EDT
except for that part at the end, where it's summative.
#sblchat
In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:46 PM EDT
#sblchat
They were indoctrinated into being grade-oriented, they can be trained out of it, too. This is fixable. :-)
In reply to @kdhowe1, @Aricfoster2
KarlBaresel
Mar 22 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Interventions are almost worthless after a final grade is given. Allow Ss the feedback to grow.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Q6 in one minute...
#sblchat
to
#StimulateGrowth
pearse_margie
Mar 22 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5. Tested my Ss Gave 1 just grades 2 grades & feedback 3 just feedback My Ss paid more attention 2 the Just Feedback.Saw potential
#sblchat
kenoc7
Mar 22 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5 See also
https://t.co/FtBJ82VEo8
#sblchat
hhschiaravalli
Mar 22 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A5: I use
@Seesaw
online portfolio platform to provide verbal feedback: description, strength, growth area. No scores.
#sblchat
In reply to @Seesaw
kenoc7
Mar 22 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5 See also
https://t.co/Wfe5FQY30r
#sblchat
https://t.co/HS3xostkDD
hhschiaravalli
Mar 22 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A5: I use
@Seesaw
online portfolio platform to provide verbal feedback: description, strength, growth area. No scores.
#sblchat
In reply to @Seesaw
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Aaron, thank you for joining tonight's frenzy!
#sblchat
In reply to @VedderAaron
RESP3CTtheGAME
Mar 22 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5 To best leverage formative feedback to close the gap between current understanding & targets...
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:47 PM EDT
#GoodCallsHome
#sblchat
SylviaEllison
Mar 22 @ 9:46 PM EDT
I called parents tonight (1 class / 1 he) & could speak intelligently about the 3 grades this quarter, conn to Standards, & needs
#sblchat
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:42 PM EDT
I do the same thing. All formative until I have to put in a final grade...cuz my job makes me. HA
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A5: Until recently my classroom was formative until semester end. Ss constantly monitored own understanding and adjusted for target
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Easy to track, but sometimes a whisper in the ear is powerful.
#sblchat
In reply to @amanda_glover, @RoweRikW
BradLatzke
Mar 22 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Worth repeating.
#sblchat
KarlBaresel
Mar 22 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Interventions are almost worthless after a final grade is given. Allow Ss the feedback to grow.
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:48 PM EDT
I was told that I was too forward-thinking at one point in time.
#sblchat
In reply to @mrscienceteach
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Q6 - Provide examples of how you involve peers of Learners to provide feedback FOR Learning.
#sblchat
datiepriest
Mar 22 @ 9:48 PM EDT
#sblchat
A5. I think we are missing the gap in learning for the Ts who struggle to convey certain concepts. FAs not being used intentionally
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Agreed. Yoda said it best, "You must unlearn what you have learned."
#sblchat
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:46 PM EDT
#sblchat
They were indoctrinated into being grade-oriented, they can be trained out of it, too. This is fixable. :-)
In reply to @kdhowe1, @Aricfoster2
rickwormeli2
Mar 22 @ 9:48 PM EDT
#sblchat
Aaron, Rik, Thank you for tonight. It was wonderful! Have to get on to a project here with family now.
In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1, @RoweRikW
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:48 PM EDT
4 times for me. ššš
#sblchat
In reply to @AggieSalterITS, @d_mulder, @r_medema
kirk_humphreys
Mar 22 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Two years ago when I gave detailed feedback with a grade, I asked S, "Did you read the feedback?" S responded, "you gave feedback?"
#sblchat
pearse_margie
Mar 22 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5. Tested my Ss Gave 1 just grades 2 grades & feedback 3 just feedback My Ss paid more attention 2 the Just Feedback.Saw potential
#sblchat
rggillespie
Mar 22 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Yet we expect remediation for state tests to work...so backwards on many levels, but little choice
#sblchat
In reply to @KarlBaresel
AggieSalterITS
Mar 22 @ 9:48 PM EDT
q5 check 4 understanding often deliver helpful resources scheduled s confeances 2check4 progress in case they can express
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A6 - Our Learners benefit from questioning each other with challenging and thought-provoking questions.
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 8:54 PM EDT
So excited, Paul. Just read your book last week. Was excellent.
In reply to @mrscienceteach, @RoweRikW
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Was a pleasure. Have fun.
#sblchat
In reply to @rickwormeli2, @RoweRikW
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@hhschiaravalli
@jmattmiller
is a friend of mine who authors that blog. You can reach out to him for more info as well.
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7, @hhschiaravalli, @jmattmiller
KatieBudrow
Mar 22 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A6 Peer review is an essential part of the process in my room. We do a lot of work to define what that looks like.
#sblchat
jodidevries
Mar 22 @ 9:49 PM EDT
I can attest to that! And when they are trained out of it, they will see that success=learning, not grades.
#sblchat
In reply to @rickwormeli2, @kdhowe1
mrscienceteach
Mar 22 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Feedback should be more work for the recipient than the giver. Make it detective work. -Dylan Wiliam
#sblchat
In reply to @pearse_margie
kenoc7
Mar 22 @ 9:49 PM EDT
If you tried it you might find they liked it because the comments have real, not just symbolic meaning.
#sblchat
In reply to @kdhowe1, @Aricfoster2
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:50 PM EDT
RT Q6 - Provide examples of how you involve peers of Learners to provide feedback FOR Learning.
#sblchat
SylviaEllison
Mar 22 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Smh š ... love my admin ... they trust me to take risks b/c they believe in my desire to prepare Sts to succeed in life
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:48 PM EDT
I was told that I was too forward-thinking at one point in time.
#sblchat
In reply to @mrscienceteach
kirk_humphreys
Mar 22 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A6: I model feedback myself. I want Ss to first rely on their peers for feedback. It's a work in process but getting better.
#sblchat
kdhowe1
Mar 22 @ 9:50 PM EDT
This is the story of my life, and why I don't give more than a couple of words on summative assessments.
#sblchat
In reply to @kirk_humphreys
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A6: I encourage discourse in my classes where Ss are constantly giving each other feedback on their work. It's part of our culture.
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:50 PM EDT
You're in good company. I'm the crazy teacher at my school.
#sblchat
In reply to @TTmomTT, @mrscienceteach
kiddomapp
Mar 22 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A5: Include an opportunity for self-assessment on ungraded FAs and teach
#SEL
skills too!
#sblchat
rggillespie
Mar 22 @ 9:50 PM EDT
When done correctly--it requires instruction, modeling, etc--peer review is powerful when combined w/ self-reflection/assessment
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Mar 22 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A6 Peer review is an essential part of the process in my room. We do a lot of work to define what that looks like.
#sblchat
kdhowe1
Mar 22 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Great!!! Where do I start? My admin will buy in if I have an organized plan.
#sblchat
In reply to @jodidevries, @rickwormeli2
ESMDayton
Mar 22 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
hope you don't mind a shameless plug for middle level chat series I am moderating w/
@schug_dennis
#NYSMSAchat
7pm 3/27
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW, @schug_dennis
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A6: Peers give FB inspired by
@markbarnes19
SE2R model &
@mssackstein
"What did you see & not see with respect to learning goals?"
#sblchat
In reply to @markbarnes19, @mssackstein
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:51 PM EDT
I had that at one point too. It is amazing to work for people like that!
#sblchat
In reply to @SylviaEllison
Yo_Mista
Mar 22 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A6: Socratic seminars, QFT technique, and anything else that can get Ss listening, thinking, and responding! šš¼š¤š£
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Now this is a "Culture of Feedback"!
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A6: I encourage discourse in my classes where Ss are constantly giving each other feedback on their work. It's part of our culture.
#sblchat
KRScienceLady
Mar 22 @ 9:51 PM EDT
when Ss engaged in S 2 S discourse in science probing each other's thinking, building on each other's ideas thats FA
#sblchat
KarlBaresel
Mar 22 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A6 students can be very vulnerable when giving each other feedback. Important to create a comfortable, low-risk environment
#sblchat
kdhowe1
Mar 22 @ 9:52 PM EDT
This took us until about January to get rolling this year. Hope to get there sooner next year.
#sblchat
In reply to @TTmomTT
HCKoe42
Mar 22 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
Thanks so much for letting me participate. I would love to check
#sblchat
again sometime! Have to get going now. Thanks!!
In reply to @RoweRikW
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:52 PM EDT
I try to do these weekly.
#sblchat
Yo_Mista
Mar 22 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A6: Socratic seminars, QFT technique, and anything else that can get Ss listening, thinking, and responding! šš¼š¤š£
#sblchat
datiepriest
Mar 22 @ 9:52 PM EDT
#sblchat
Thanks for letting me join the discussion! Good night!āŗ
kenoc7
Mar 22 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Actually should lead to more Aās because S better prepared for SAās.
#sblchat
In reply to @Yo_Mista
AggieSalterITS
Mar 22 @ 9:52 PM EDT
yes who cares how long it took us to get it as long as we got the full understanding even summer school
#sblchat
In reply to @r_medema, @d_mulder
jodidevries
Mar 22 @ 9:52 PM EDT
the 'plan' might need to be permission for it to be messy @ the beginning! That's what I got & it was great!
#sblchat
In reply to @kdhowe1, @rickwormeli2
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Remember this.
#sblchat
KarlBaresel
Mar 22 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A6 students can be very vulnerable when giving each other feedback. Important to create a comfortable, low-risk environment
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Kevin, it was a pleasure for you to join
#sblchat
Tonight! Thank you
@d_mulder
!
#GreatTeachers
In reply to @d_mulder
HCKoe42
Mar 22 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
Thanks so much for letting me participate. I would love to check
#sblchat
again sometime! Have to get going now. Thanks!!
In reply to @RoweRikW
SylviaEllison
Mar 22 @ 9:53 PM EDT
feedback > could issue be that Ts never talk about grading so they "do what was done to them"? Impact with more convo like tonight?
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Please come back.
#sblchat
In reply to @HCKoe42, @RoweRikW
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:53 PM EDT
It does take some change on Ss side as well as Ts. They are not used to it, especially in math class.
#sblchat
In reply to @kdhowe1
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:53 PM EDT
New app coming soon from me and
@MeganCMoMo
to process feedback like we have talked about
#sblchat
In reply to @MeganCMoMo
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Pleased to have you in
#sblchat
Tonight!
In reply to @datiepriest
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Please don't let a grade be the only source of feedback.
#sblchat
In reply to @SylviaEllison
kenoc7
Mar 22 @ 9:54 PM EDT
How is it possible to be "too forward-thinkingā as an educator?
#sblchat
In reply to @TTmomTT, @mrscienceteach
Yo_Mista
Mar 22 @ 9:54 PM EDT
I don't believe this reflects the time contraints of classrooms nor the resource constraints on teachers
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7
Aricfoster2
Mar 22 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Thanks so much for an awesome
#sblchat
my eduheroes
@RoweRikW
@rickwormeli2
@kenoc7
In reply to @RoweRikW, @rickwormeli2, @kenoc7
SylviaEllison
Mar 22 @ 9:54 PM EDT
I started simply by changing my grading scale to a 4pt rather than a 100pt scale ... then started with feedback
#sblchat
In reply to @kdhowe1, @TTmomTT
Eric_Dohrmann
Mar 22 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Most of our 6th grade has moved to SBG. I am hoping for more next year!
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:55 PM EDT
@mrscienceteach
What is your preferred form of feedback?
#sblchat
In reply to @mrscienceteach
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Please thank my co-moderator
@AaronSBlackwel1
for his help tonight and his help with our Qns!
#sblchat
In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
kdhowe1
Mar 22 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Sometimes I feel like the grade is the only feedback they hear. Have to break the cycle.
#sblchat
In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1, @SylviaEllison
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Great question. I guess your community and school have to be ready for change first.
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7, @mrscienceteach
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Where would I be if it were not for each of you?
#sblchat
In reply to @Aricfoster2, @rickwormeli2, @kenoc7
Diana_Sarao
Mar 22 @ 9:56 PM EDT
I'm sorry to miss another
#sblchat
! I really look forward to them. Next time!
hhschiaravalli
Mar 22 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6: In
#APLit
, peers provide feedback using wording from AP scoring guide. No love for scoring guide, but approach it dialogically
#sblchat
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Was so much fun. Frantic, but fun.
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
pearse_margie
Mar 22 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6: Like gallery walks: half of class presents while other half circulates & listens to presentations. Feedback more personal
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Mar 22 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Oh my goodness. Absolutely YES!
#sblchat
kdhowe1
Mar 22 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Sometimes I feel like the grade is the only feedback they hear. Have to break the cycle.
#sblchat
In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1, @SylviaEllison
SylviaEllison
Mar 22 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Oh ... I agree ... but that's where I started ... I then also added no grading of practice only assessment when learning was ready
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AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Please don't let a grade be the only source of feedback.
#sblchat
In reply to @SylviaEllison
drangelapeery
Mar 22 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Just did my 1st Twitter chat from the air! Thx
#sblchat
and
@Delta
.
In reply to @Delta
jodidevries
Mar 22 @ 9:57 PM EDT
hmm - if we wait until everyone is ready, change will rarely happen.
#sblchat
In reply to @TTmomTT, @kenoc7, @mrscienceteach
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Make it about conversation and it is worthwhile.
#sblchat
In reply to @hhschiaravalli
Eric_Dohrmann
Mar 22 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Our teachers only have learning standards in their grade book (5 point scale).
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A HUGE thank you to everyone who help to
#StimulateGrowth
in
#sblchat
Tonight! Wow! What a conversation!
@AaronSBlackwel1
In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
kdhowe1
Mar 22 @ 9:57 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
@AaronSBlackwel1
Thanks for moderating and engaging with crashers like me!
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW, @AaronSBlackwel1
BradLatzke
Mar 22 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Thx everyone for providing feedback on feedback to improve feedback.
#sblchat
rclarkeducation
Mar 22 @ 9:57 PM EDT
I did the same when I taught APLit. Gives an understanding of the language by which they will be critiqued.
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In reply to @hhschiaravalli
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Love them.
#sblchat
pearse_margie
Mar 22 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6: Like gallery walks: half of class presents while other half circulates & listens to presentations. Feedback more personal
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pearse_margie
Mar 22 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Have to go Great chat. Thanks for the warm welcome all!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Thank you Kathy!
@AaronSBlackwel1
#sblchat
In reply to @kdhowe1, @AaronSBlackwel1
SylviaEllison
Mar 22 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Sadly ... they don't hear that - they hear "yah" or "I'm a failure again" š³ why Feedback is critical
#sblchat
In reply to @kdhowe1, @AaronSBlackwel1
kenoc7
Mar 22 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Actually it is about working smarter not harder. I.E., doing the things that work and stop doing the things that donāt.
#sblchat
In reply to @Yo_Mista
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Thank you, Margie!
#sblchat
In reply to @pearse_margie
AggieSalterITS
Mar 22 @ 9:58 PM EDT
the gaps in understanding happen when we push s to new standards with out understanding previous ones
#sblchat
In reply to @r_medema, @d_mulder
kdhowe1
Mar 22 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Can you DM me more info on that or maybe a snapshot?
#sblchat
In reply to @Eric_Dohrmann
KarlBaresel
Mar 22 @ 9:58 PM EDT
What a great conversation on
#sblchat
Thanks for challenging my thinking and helping me do the best I can for the kids!
ESMDayton
Mar 22 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Just did my second chat from rehab center following double hip replacement. Moderated
#NYSMSAchat
on Monday
#sblchat
drangelapeery
Mar 22 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Just did my 1st Twitter chat from the air! Thx
#sblchat
and
@Delta
.
In reply to @Delta
jodidevries
Mar 22 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thx
@RoweRikW
and
@AaronSBlackwel1
and everyone else for another great
#sblchat
!
@rickwormeli2
&
@kenoc7
- always appreciate your input too!
In reply to @RoweRikW, @AaronSBlackwel1, @rickwormeli2, @kenoc7
KatieBudrow
Mar 22 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thanks for another fantastic
#sblchat
everyone! Can't wait to learn with you again!
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:59 PM EDT
So agree. I try to schedule conferences w/ Ss. So rewarding.
#sblchat
In reply to @mrscienceteach
rclarkeducation
Mar 22 @ 9:59 PM EDT
@RoweRikW
thanks for the warm welcome!
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
kdhowe1
Mar 22 @ 9:59 PM EDT
I struggle with 7th gr being snarky toads in gallery walks. Sometimes respect culture breaks down.
#sblchat
In reply to @AaronSBlackwel1
RoweRikW
Mar 22 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thank you Karl. Please join us again soon!
#sblchat
KarlBaresel
Mar 22 @ 9:58 PM EDT
What a great conversation on
#sblchat
Thanks for challenging my thinking and helping me do the best I can for the kids!
AaronSBlackwel1
Mar 22 @ 9:59 PM EDT
So agree.
#sblchat
In reply to @SylviaEllison, @kdhowe1