#musedchat Archive

Each Monday evening at 8PM EST, music teachers get together and share ideas about important topics within music education. It’s a great chance to interact directly with educators from all over the world and to get new tips and tricks to help you succeed in the classroom. The entire #musedchat discussion is organized and moderated by Joe Guarr.

Monday May 21, 2018
8:00 PM EDT

  • jguarr - Moderator May 21 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    It's #musedchat time! Our topic: Teaching comprehensive musicianship beyond performances. Be sure to introduce yourself! #musiced
  • BurtonHable May 21 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    Burton Hable, 6-12 band director in Ankeny, Iowa, lurking from my last booster meeting in Ankeny #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator May 21 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Good to see you Burton, how are things this week? #musedchat
    In reply to @BurtonHable
  • jarvelamused May 21 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    omigosh i remembered to show up to one of these for the first time in forever! Adam from NJ, i teach music music in a preK-6 building. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator May 21 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    How are you tonight, Adam? Good to see you #musedchat
    In reply to @jarvelamused
  • BurtonHable May 21 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Winding down! This is the last week of class. 3 days of finals after Memorial Day, and then 2 days without kids. Now if I could just get my move scheduled. How are you? #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • edujessication May 21 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Jessica from Fort Worth! K-5 music #musedchat
  • jarvelamused May 21 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    good to see you too! the baby has been putting us through our paces (usually been too asleep this time monday nights cause of it) and concert tomorrow so only mildly freaking out about everything #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator May 21 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Life is good here. Prepping for the Memorial Day parade and our final concert. Still tons to do. #musedchat
    In reply to @BurtonHable
  • jguarr - Moderator May 21 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    How are you tonight Jessica? #musedchat
    In reply to @edujessication
  • jguarr - Moderator May 21 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Babies make everything insane. How old? #musedchat
    In reply to @jarvelamused
  • mrsbrunacini May 21 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    #musedchat I'm Kristen from Jamestown, NY. I teach K-4 general music! 💙
  • jguarr - Moderator May 21 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    Life is good. Just a few more Mondays left in the school year, then finally some relaxation time. #musedchat
    In reply to @edujessication
  • jguarr - Moderator May 21 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    Welcome to the chat Kristen, how are you tonight? #musedchat
    In reply to @mrsbrunacini
  • jarvelamused May 21 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    almost 3 months! born 2/27 and now it is the end of May...#musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jguarr - Moderator May 21 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    Wow, congratulations! Time flies. Our little one is 8 months old in a week... #musedchat
    In reply to @jarvelamused
  • jguarr - Moderator May 21 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    Q1 coming shortly #musedchat
  • jarvelamused May 21 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    oh can i put in a Q real quick for all you #musedchat folks, we are streaming my concert tomorrow on facebook live...anything to be aware of? anything going to go wrong?
  • jguarr - Moderator May 21 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    Q1: Of all the things that fall under the umbrella of 'comprehensive musicianship', what do you spend the most time on, aside from performing? https://t.co/P7UR5nzJFT #musedchat
  • Frenchie414 May 21 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    Hey everyone! Nickie from north-central Ohio. K-5 general music ❤️ #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator May 21 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    Good to see you Nickie, how are you tonight? #musedchat
    In reply to @Frenchie414
  • Frenchie414 May 21 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    Doing well! Last few days of school! 🙌🏻Glad to be able to make it to the #musedchat tonight too.
    In reply to @jguarr
  • Frenchie414 May 21 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    A1: I’ve changed my focus over the years, but currently I put a great amount of effort into teaching active rather than passive listening. I work to get them to focus on music for music’s sake rather than perpetuating our culture’s use of music as “background” sound. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator May 21 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    How do you introduce the active listening concept? #musedchat
    In reply to @Frenchie414
  • smanhart4 May 21 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    Hi! Shawna here. Just got home. Running late after parade practice. #musedchat
  • jarvelamused May 21 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    I guess the Strategies? I might be a little too tired to catch the whole gist of it so let me know when i am wrong; I want my Ss to be able to make music without guidance, so they would need to know the how #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator May 21 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    Good to see you Shawna, best of luck in the parade. Memorial Day? #musedchat
    In reply to @smanhart4
  • mrsbrunacini May 21 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    #musedchat A1. We spend a lot of time developing our musicality by analyzing music that we listen to and perform.
  • edujessication May 21 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    A1: I try to emphasize the communal aspect of what we're doing and that making music *together* is what makes it so special. I've been known to say, "Please sing with me, I can sing alone when I'm in my car but right now I want to sing with you all." #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator May 21 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    A1: We've been transitioning to students conducting our warmup chorales. Some are starting to display some basic error detection skills! #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator May 21 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    Q2: The 'analyzing' aspect can be kind of nebulous. How do you analyze music with your students? #musedchat
  • smanhart4 May 21 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    That is awesome! I started doing something similar with all grades in the last couple of months. Ss love it. It's great to see the 8th Graders taking off with it--their ease w/ leading the group & working on adding their own touches. #musedchat
    In reply to @jguarr
  • jarvelamused May 21 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    one of those things i can lose sight of, thanks for the reminder of why we do it! #musedchat
    In reply to @edujessication
  • smanhart4 May 21 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    A2 I should probably do more. We talk form, key transitions, etc., but I don't regularly do more than that. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator May 21 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    Knowledge of theory can be all over the map. Honestly it's really tough to go deeper than that sometimes. #musedchat
    In reply to @smanhart4
  • edujessication May 21 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    A2: Most of the analyzing we do is form. Sometimes I have them figure out the solfege or figure out how to play on xylophone/recorder/ukulele the song we've been singing #musedchat
  • edujessication May 21 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    A2: Personally, teaching others how to analyze music is daunting because the way I was taught was being told to "just listen" and that absolutely is not effective, so I don't have the tools (yet) to go deeper #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator May 21 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    I've had some success comparing simple forms to poetry rhyme schemes. My kids are usually already familiar with using letters to denote form. #musedchat
    In reply to @edujessication
  • Muzzikkatt May 21 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    #musedchat Late tonight after Scout Encampment wknd & full day. Kathy from MI. K-8 General Music & band
  • jguarr - Moderator May 21 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Good to see you Kathy, hope it was a good weekend #musedchat
    In reply to @Muzzikkatt
  • jguarr - Moderator May 21 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    It's definitely not easy. In my music tech class, we do some basic ABA compositions in Incredibox, and analyze Blue Rondo a la Turk since those sections are very clear. #musedchat
    In reply to @edujessication
  • jguarr - Moderator May 21 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Q3: CMP states that selection of music is based on student needs. How do you assess those needs with a brand new class of kids? #musedchat
  • Muzzikkatt May 21 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    #musedchat K-4(5,6) should have had song form but probably not a chance to create...do it.
  • edujessication May 21 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A3: Are the kids having fun? Am I having fun? Are they engaged? Also, I try to incorporate more pop music toward the end of the year so they can see that the building blocks we've worked on all year are the same building blocks of the music they listen to #musedchat
  • smanhart4 May 21 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A3 For my 7th & 8th Graders I have a pretty solid idea of where their strengths & weaknesses are at already, so music selection based on need is fairly easy. With my beginners, they are brand new to instruments, so I choose music to excite, motivate, & challenge. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator May 21 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A3: Most of my 7th graders are have a couple years experience under their belts, but haven't had me before. We review stuff from their books and learn some easy chorales for a couple weeks while I learn their strengths. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator May 21 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    A4: Budgeting time. We all recognize the value of the non-performance aspects of music, but how do you make time in a performance oriented world? #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator May 21 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    Can you share the sheet? #musedchat
    In reply to @Frenchie414, @edujessication