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remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:00 PM EST

Welcome to #profchat! Tonight we'll be discussing open annotation in #highered & a very appropriate topic because it is #OpenEducationWk

dr_jdean Mar 8 @ 8:00 PM EST

Here are some education resources on using @hypothes_is in the classroom, #profchat: https://t.co/d8jSSDMLn5

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:00 PM EST

This chat is for #highered teachers & learners who are interested in talking about teaching practices at the university level. #profchat

aaron_hogan Mar 8 @ 8:00 PM EST

Join #CSISDchat in an hour to talk blogging! #DivergED #leadupchat #edchat #pblchat #profchat #personalizedPD https://t.co/661faSB1Kq

philosophypaul Mar 8 @ 8:00 PM EST

Please welcome @remiholden moderating tonight's #profchat on Open Annotation

LisaMLane Mar 8 @ 8:00 PM EST

Prepped for #profchat by figuring out how to embed hypothes.is page in Canvas. :-)

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:01 PM EST

@philosophypaul Thanks Paul, great to be back moderating #profchat

jweeble Mar 8 @ 8:01 PM EST

Hey Remi - I'm glad to be here and continue the conversation about annotation! Jen from Central Michigan here #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:01 PM EST

My name is Remi Holden and I am your #profchat moderator tonight! In our chat we'll use a Q1/A1 format to structure our five questions.

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:01 PM EST

The MC is in the house. Playful conversation may begin! #profchat https://t.co/d0j3WMFI1C

philosophypaul Mar 8 @ 8:00 PM EST

Please welcome @remiholden moderating tonight's #profchat on Open Annotation

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:01 PM EST

@jweeble So glad you're here Jen, welcome! #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:02 PM EST

As we welcome everyone, pls tell us who you are, what university you teach or learn at & what you're currently teaching/learning. #profchat

enkerli Mar 8 @ 8:02 PM EST

Tweeting from @VTElive but playing with other hats as well… #profchat

ennasuite Mar 8 @ 8:02 PM EST

Hi I'm Susan, grad student in ID/Adult Learning, learning with @remiholden at CU Denver #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:03 PM EST

@enkerli @VTElive That's wonderful, welcome to #profchat

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:03 PM EST

Hi everyone! Excited to be here for #profchat on annotating the web! I teach Interdisc Studies at public U in NH, & work on open education.

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:03 PM EST

@ennasuite Hey Susan, so glad that you're here and helping to represent #ILT5320 and our use of @hypothes_is for open annotation #profchat

dr_jdean Mar 8 @ 8:03 PM EST

Hi #profchat I'm Jeremy from @hypothes_is, formerly of UT Austin

avunque Mar 8 @ 8:03 PM EST

Hi there, this is Antonio, at @sagradoedu with one class in new media #inf115. #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:03 PM EST

@actualham Welcome Robin, it's a pleasure to have you join this evening, welcome! #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:04 PM EST

@dr_jdean @hypothes_is Welcome Jeremy! #profchat

sylvanrobert1 Mar 8 @ 8:04 PM EST

Hi, Robert, a Grad Student with @remiholden #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:04 PM EST

We’re a nonprofit enabling technopedagogical appropriation in Quebec’s HigherEd, especially community colleges (Cegeps). #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:04 PM EST

FYI My interest in open annotation is new & based upon my use of @hypothes_is in #ILT5320. Read more here https://t.co/fZZQ4HrXgm #profchat

onewheeljoe Mar 8 @ 8:04 PM EST

Hi #profchat. I'm Joe, Tech Coordinator in Aurora Public Schools in CO. Interested in open annotation but #notaprof

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:05 PM EST

@sylvanrobert1 Welcome Robert, glad you're here and that we have another #ILT5320 learner in the house! #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:05 PM EST

Proper disclosure. #OpenAnnotation is broad but the field is getting less blurry. #profchat https://t.co/rurg8fpmMV

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:04 PM EST

FYI My interest in open annotation is new & based upon my use of @hypothes_is in #ILT5320. Read more here https://t.co/fZZQ4HrXgm #profchat

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:05 PM EST

"Technopedagogical." Rad. (Non-profit. Rad.) #profchat https://t.co/0TnkVRAHst

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:04 PM EST

We’re a nonprofit enabling technopedagogical appropriation in Quebec’s HigherEd, especially community colleges (Cegeps). #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:05 PM EST

@onewheeljoe Welcome Joe, maybe #notaprof but certainly one of the most expert thinkers here tonight! #profchat

telliowkuwp Mar 8 @ 8:05 PM EST

I am Terry Elliott (@telliowkuwp) I'm an instructor at Western Kentucky University and I teach compostion #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:06 PM EST

When you work with public institutions with lots of inertia, being radical can be challenging. #profchat https://t.co/6y2sshlrzk

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:05 PM EST
"Technopedagogical." Rad. (Non-profit. Rad.) #profchat https://t.co/0TnkVRAHst
- vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:04 PM EST
  
  We’re a nonprofit enabling technopedagogical appropriation in Quebec’s HigherEd, especially community colleges (Cegeps). #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:06 PM EST

@telliowkuwp Welcome Terry, so pleased you can join #profchat tonight!

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:06 PM EST

Q1 coming up in a minute... #profchat

telliowkuwp Mar 8 @ 8:07 PM EST

@onewheeljoe Hiya Joe. #profchat

enkerli Mar 8 @ 8:07 PM EST

Apart from @vtelive/@vtelab, I teach ethnographic disciplines and postdevelopment. #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:07 PM EST

Q1 What are your experiences w open annotation in teaching, learning? And/if none, what are your curiosities abt open annotation? #profchat

JasonAEngerman Mar 8 @ 8:07 PM EST

#profchat Jason Engerman learning designer out of Penn State University and friend of playful learning 😀

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:07 PM EST

And here's @tellio's awesome Q1 pic! #profchat https://t.co/jJTxKx2Pri

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:08 PM EST

@JasonAEngerman Welcome Jason, so glad that you're jumping in! #profchat

avunque Mar 8 @ 8:08 PM EST

Very curious! I am using @hypothes_is for first time, fter suggestion by @cogdog #profchat

onewheeljoe Mar 8 @ 8:08 PM EST

@telliowkuwp Hiya! https://t.co/YeAObN70xj #profchat

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:08 PM EST

A1: I use @hypothes_is as part of a comprehensive open pedagogy; Ss work in public on the open web in most aspects of my courses. #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:09 PM EST

@avunque @hypothes_is @cogdog Welcome Antonio, glad you and your curiosity are joining #profchat tonight!

ennasuite Mar 8 @ 8:09 PM EST

A1: before #ILT5320 I used @rapgenius for my personal learning, and still do almost daily actually. Does that count? #profchat

sylvanrobert1 Mar 8 @ 8:09 PM EST

I’m 6 weeks with readings annotation, at first a bit too busy for me, I thought it too much. Have adjusted and find it valuable. #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:09 PM EST

We’re exploring #OpenAnnotation as a way to collaborative learning and bridge ebooks and Web content. #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:09 PM EST

@ennasuite Awesome! What are you annotating with @rapgenius? #profchat

ennasuite Mar 8 @ 8:09 PM EST

@sylvanrobert1 I'm glad you're finding it useful after using it a bit! #profchat

jweeble Mar 8 @ 8:10 PM EST

A1: My interests are in collaborative meaning making through social annotation-hadn't thought of importance of open until recently #profchat

enkerli Mar 8 @ 8:10 PM EST

Tried Genius after chatting with @dr_jdean. Seeing potential but preferring open standards. #profchat

LisaMLane Mar 8 @ 8:10 PM EST

A1 #profchat I've used the old Crocodoc to have my history students discuss primary source documents and loved it

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:10 PM EST

@actualham @hypothes_is Can you tell us a bit more about what a comprehensive pedagogy means to you? & How did you develop this? #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:10 PM EST

@vtelive What types of platforms and tools are you using? #profchat

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:10 PM EST

Find that when using #OER and working to engage Ss with PLN's, public annotation can be a way to make reading collaborative. #profchat

onewheeljoe Mar 8 @ 8:10 PM EST

A1 #profchat I've had a few experiences with social annotation. Were they "open"? You decide. https://t.co/s4M2HDYZmp

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:11 PM EST

@jweeble And what are you thinking about the importance of open? #profchat #OpenEducationWk

JasonAEngerman Mar 8 @ 8:11 PM EST

#profchat I apologize for my lack of knowledge on this. I am new to annotate as well as hypothesis. Been too busy focusing on dissertation.

dr_jdean Mar 8 @ 8:11 PM EST

@ennasuite love rapgenius/used to work there. it definitely counts, but we should talk about what we mean about "open" #profchat

ennasuite Mar 8 @ 8:11 PM EST

A1: Now in @remiholden's course we're annotating our readings and he is annotating our blogs #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:11 PM EST

A1: Though we have yet to implement #OpenAnnotation practices, we’ve been exposing pedagogues to @Hypothes_is. #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:11 PM EST

@JasonAEngerman What kind of an excuse is that?! :) #profchat

telliowkuwp Mar 8 @ 8:11 PM EST

Lots of professional activity with Hypothes.is, long-time user of Diigo and Genius #profchat

onewheeljoe Mar 8 @ 8:11 PM EST

@jweeble Will you say more about the importance of open? Also, what is "open"? #profchat

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:12 PM EST

For me, it's about engaging my students as contributors to a public/collaborative knowledge creation. #profchat https://t.co/X6sBmYmwip

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:10 PM EST

@actualham @hypothes_is Can you tell us a bit more about what a comprehensive pedagogy means to you? & How did you develop this? #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:12 PM EST

@telliowkuwp What do you see as some of the pros/cons among those various annotation platforms? #profchat

LisaMLane Mar 8 @ 8:12 PM EST

#profchat this semester trying Kami, next semester @hypothes_is . I think I can use it for help with textbook readings

cherisemcb Mar 8 @ 8:12 PM EST

Hi #profchat! Cherise from CA jumping in. Literacy researcher and teacher educator.

enkerli Mar 8 @ 8:12 PM EST

A1 Been using @hypothes_is fairly extensively for my “learning in the open”. #profchat

ennasuite Mar 8 @ 8:12 PM EST

@dr_jdean I know you did that's why I'm geeking out here! I see "open" to mean accessible, not exclusive...#profchat

jweeble Mar 8 @ 8:13 PM EST

@remiholden authenticity, collaboration with more than the participants in the course-seeing your blog/class "opened" eyes a bit #profchat

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:13 PM EST

For me, "open" is about sharing ideas and building off each other. Scholarship as collaborative rather than proprietary. #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:13 PM EST

@cherisemcb Welcome Cherise, glad you can join #profchat tonight!

avunque Mar 8 @ 8:13 PM EST

@ennasuite @remiholden What about "annotating blogs"? #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:13 PM EST

The move to learner-driven learning sure is underway. Obstacles abound. Annotating as #TrojanHorse? #profchat https://t.co/pMnb0vo4Rd

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:12 PM EST
For me, it's about engaging my students as contributors to a public/collaborative knowledge creation. #profchat https://t.co/X6sBmYmwip
- remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:10 PM EST
  
  @actualham @hypothes_is Can you tell us a bit more about what a comprehensive pedagogy means to you? & How did you develop this? #profchat

jweeble Mar 8 @ 8:13 PM EST

@remiholden @JasonAEngerman :) slacker - you only need 4 hours sleep a night ... #profchat

LisaMLane Mar 8 @ 8:14 PM EST

@onewheeljoe I'm finding the annotation more important than the open aspect #profchat

onewheeljoe Mar 8 @ 8:14 PM EST

@telliowkuwp That first panda didn't work... #profchat https://t.co/pXXNsTg9Qt

cherisemcb Mar 8 @ 8:14 PM EST

A1 love concept of open annotation 4 collab & sharing knowledge. Would like to know best platforms & ways to get Ss connected. #profchat

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:14 PM EST

This is enabled by the open @creativecommons license, which to me is the anchor for open pedagogy as well as open artifacts. #profchat

telliowkuwp Mar 8 @ 8:14 PM EST

@remiholden Hypothes.is has least amount of friction. Diigo has greater depth/swissarmy knife tool. Vialogues as video annot. #profchat

ambartosik Mar 8 @ 8:14 PM EST

Anna from Oakville, Ontario joining. College ESL #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:14 PM EST

@avunque learners like @ennasuite in #ILT5320 are blogging abt #games & #gbl, I'm using @hypothes_is to provide informal feedback #profchat

onewheeljoe Mar 8 @ 8:14 PM EST

@LisaMLane Is the social/collaborative functionality important to you? #profchat

jweeble Mar 8 @ 8:14 PM EST

@onewheeljoe not just #OER but open to more than the participants - perspectives and alt viewpoints #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:15 PM EST

@cherisemcb you've got the experts in the house to learn about those platforms and learning scaffolds! #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:15 PM EST

@LisaMLane @onewheeljoe Interesting point. We may value openness but it’s not always a value in itself. #profchat

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:15 PM EST

I think of public web annotation as a way of "opening" reading practice, letting readers see each others' processes/doubts/??s. #profchat

ennasuite Mar 8 @ 8:15 PM EST

@remiholden To decipher/understand lyrics, users annotate with their understanding, not everyone is in agreement 100% of the time #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:15 PM EST

@OtterScotter Welcome Scott, thanks for joining #profchat!

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:15 PM EST

Q2 coming up in a minute... #profchat

sylvanrobert1 Mar 8 @ 8:16 PM EST

Online discussions often feel forced, whereas hypothesis thus far has a flow, feels more natural, open! #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:16 PM EST

@jweeble @onewheeljoe Rather easier to annotate #OER than closed content. #OpenEducationWk is about reuse, appropriation. #profchat

telliowkuwp Mar 8 @ 8:16 PM EST

@onewheeljoe https://t.co/c6yBnJHZYW #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:16 PM EST

Props to @hypothes_is from #ILT5320 #profchat https://t.co/afAvDaXl2E

sylvanrobert1 Mar 8 @ 8:16 PM EST

Online discussions often feel forced, whereas hypothesis thus far has a flow, feels more natural, open! #profchat

jweeble Mar 8 @ 8:17 PM EST

@telliowkuwp @remiholden Love Diigo and vialogues as well :D #profchat

onewheeljoe Mar 8 @ 8:17 PM EST

A1 (pt 2) I'm currently obsessed with @hypothes_is and I think the public stream is a goldmine. https://t.co/dccIRCrjuH #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:17 PM EST

Q2 What are pros and cons of open annotation in #highered teaching and learning? And how best to promote & also address concerns? #profchat

ohsoearly Mar 8 @ 8:17 PM EST

Hi #profchat - you can blame @ambartosik for inviting me. Excited to see this conversation.

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:17 PM EST

And here's @tellio's awesome Q2 pic! #profchat https://t.co/DVehqVxa0M

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:17 PM EST

A2 Had an epiphany through @shepazu discussing the “chain of attribution”. Major benefit. https://t.co/6l1tGiT2I5 #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:17 PM EST

@ohsoearly @ambartosik Welcome Aron, thanks for joining #profchat

ohsoearly Mar 8 @ 8:18 PM EST

@remiholden gonna have to check out this @hypothes_is #profchat

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:18 PM EST

A2: I think we need to be educated about privacy concerns, and let learners decide- with guidance- how to engage with public work. #profchat

jweeble Mar 8 @ 8:18 PM EST

@vtelive @onewheeljoe agreed - part of my concerns for coursework is finding OER #profchat

onewheeljoe Mar 8 @ 8:18 PM EST

@dr_jdean Will you say why "open" in the technical sense is important? @ennasuite #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:18 PM EST

@actualham I agree! And perhaps also how to create public work of their own? #profchat

enkerli Mar 8 @ 8:19 PM EST

A1 (again) @Diigo has been mentioned. Been my main tool for active reading before @hypothes_is. #profchat

telliowkuwp Mar 8 @ 8:19 PM EST

A2 a busy annotation site leads to confusion. #profchat

ambartosik Mar 8 @ 8:19 PM EST

Proudly retweeting the blame #profchat https://t.co/tFd9yEgz1R

ohsoearly Mar 8 @ 8:17 PM EST

Hi #profchat - you can blame @ambartosik for inviting me. Excited to see this conversation.

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:19 PM EST

A2: I also think private reading is a beautiful thing, too. I wouldn't suggest that all annotation needs to be public or digital. #profchat

dr_jdean Mar 8 @ 8:19 PM EST

@onewheeljoe @ennasuite first, i would distinguish between open and public #profchat

judell Mar 8 @ 8:19 PM EST

Hi #profchat, I'm Jon Udell with @hypothes_is, watching, listening, and learning about your world.

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:20 PM EST

Oooo. Yes. PLEASE DISTINGUISH! #profchat https://t.co/f1Ne3X9gdg

dr_jdean Mar 8 @ 8:19 PM EST

@onewheeljoe @ennasuite first, i would distinguish between open and public #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:20 PM EST

@telliowkuwp Yeah, we've certainly seen some of those limitations with annotation "flash mobs" that rapidly mark up text #profchat

LisaMLane Mar 8 @ 8:20 PM EST

A2 #profchat Risks are all about privacy concerns

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:20 PM EST

Much of the work in #OER is about bringing appropriate resources to learners. #OpenEducationWK #profchat https://t.co/lrk5YGZhY0

jweeble Mar 8 @ 8:18 PM EST

@vtelive @onewheeljoe agreed - part of my concerns for coursework is finding OER #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:21 PM EST

@judell @hypothes_is so pleased that you can watch, listen and learn Jon! #profchat

ambartosik Mar 8 @ 8:21 PM EST

A2 pros - collaboration beyond classroom (or in classroom) no cons after buy-in is achieved #profchat

onewheeljoe Mar 8 @ 8:21 PM EST

@LisaMLane What is the biggest privacy concern? #profchat

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:21 PM EST

Question raised on #profchat by @dr_jdean. What are the distinctions between OPEN and PUBLIC? Great, great question. Thoughts?

LisaMLane Mar 8 @ 8:21 PM EST

@dr_jdean Should we also distinguish between shared and open? I think what I do with my students is more shared than open. #profchat

enkerli Mar 8 @ 8:21 PM EST

Glad @judell is listening. Great listening skills there. #profchat https://t.co/i16CcEVhyR

judell Mar 8 @ 8:19 PM EST

Hi #profchat, I'm Jon Udell with @hypothes_is, watching, listening, and learning about your world.

PhilSDSU Mar 8 @ 8:21 PM EST

Hi #profchat, I'm joining while recuperating after a long day at #SXSWedu. Long time lurker, finally available to participate.

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:22 PM EST

@actualham @dr_jdean open for me invites collaboration, discord, new knowledge building. public might just be shared & that's it #profchat

LisaMLane Mar 8 @ 8:22 PM EST

@onewheeljoe Some students do not like commenting honestly on the open web, especially with their name attached #profchat

ennasuite Mar 8 @ 8:22 PM EST

A2: Pro is facilitating discussion, Con is maybe anonymity, privacy? #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:22 PM EST

@PhilSDSU Welcome Phil to #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:22 PM EST

Part of the challenge in open vs. public/shared/private is in the degree to which we can appropriate resources. #profchat

onewheeljoe Mar 8 @ 8:22 PM EST

@dr_jdean Can you say more about portability? @ennasuite #brainpicking #profchat

cherisemcb Mar 8 @ 8:22 PM EST

A2 one pro of annotation in #highered is rich thinking, crowdsourced information to get multiplicity of perspectives on text #profchat

ohsoearly Mar 8 @ 8:23 PM EST

Have used Diigo in the past, curious if anyone has used Scrible? #profchat

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:23 PM EST

@remiholden @dr_jdean I also think of public as engaged with the common good in some way, though. #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:23 PM EST

@LisaMLane @onewheeljoe Yes, I wrote about concerns with anonymity & ownership in recent post https://t.co/EWpWrlZ7oG #profchat

dr_jdean Mar 8 @ 8:23 PM EST

@LisaMLane or distinguish between multiple publics? the classroom ("shared"?) is a public if not the public, right? #profchat

telliowkuwp Mar 8 @ 8:23 PM EST

Can Hypothes.is be self-served? Is it like etherpad in that you can go to github and get the code and install it yourself? #profchat

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:23 PM EST

@remiholden @dr_jdean I think of "public" as implying a sustainability aspect that "open" may not imply. Maybe... #profchat

enkerli Mar 8 @ 8:23 PM EST

A2 Against (text) annotations: scriptocentrism is a special form of ethnocentrism. #profchat

onewheeljoe Mar 8 @ 8:24 PM EST

A2 I wrote about the potential I saw after organizing a "flash mob." https://t.co/pKL9y1jUqo #profchat

ohsoearly Mar 8 @ 8:24 PM EST

@actualham @dr_jdean good question, open seems more controlled, can be shared with who we want to share - public has less control #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:24 PM EST

@actualham @dr_jdean wow, that's really interesting, i hadn't thought of that before. gotta chew on public <=> sustainability... #profchat

ambartosik Mar 8 @ 8:24 PM EST

@ohsoearly have you? How does it compare? #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:24 PM EST

@actualham @remiholden @dr_jdean And civic/citizenship. #profchat

onewheeljoe Mar 8 @ 8:24 PM EST

A2 (pt 2) I think that there is potential for making plain the reader and text interactions that happen as we construct meaning. #profchat

GoogleGuacamole Mar 8 @ 8:25 PM EST

@actualham @dr_jdean open relate to philosophy/practice in ways public doesn't #profchat; also more implications for remixing vs visibility

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:25 PM EST

To continue a thought from #profchat, I think working in the open can have deep connections to the mission of "public" education. #profchat

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:25 PM EST

To continue a thought from #profchat, I think working in the open can have deep connections to the mission of "public" education. #profchat

jweeble Mar 8 @ 8:25 PM EST

@dr_jdean @LisaMLane Very true! #profchat

dr_jdean Mar 8 @ 8:25 PM EST

@onewheeljoe @ennasuite your annotations are yours to do with what you like, unlike your Facebook/Google content, etc. #profchat

telliowkuwp Mar 8 @ 8:25 PM EST

@enkerli ONe of the best things about Hypoth is that annotations can be pix, YOutube vids, or gifs. #profchat

ohsoearly Mar 8 @ 8:25 PM EST

@ambartosik just a little, have liked a lot of the features - will have to dig through my annotated notes to find my comparison :) #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:25 PM EST

@GoogleGuacamole @actualham @dr_jdean thanks Laura! #profchat

LisaMLane Mar 8 @ 8:25 PM EST

@dr_jdean oh yes! the classroom is public as a noun :-) #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:26 PM EST

Public education, long after Dewey, isn’t merely about cost. Especially outside the USA. #profchat https://t.co/5yXx3iCgur

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:25 PM EST

To continue a thought from #profchat, I think working in the open can have deep connections to the mission of "public" education. #profchat

cherisemcb Mar 8 @ 8:26 PM EST

@ohsoearly @actualham @dr_jdean Public is public whereas open could be a private shared environment? #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:26 PM EST

@actualham yes, in that respect, i see my work in the open reflecting the fact that i'm a public employee at state university #profchat

telliowkuwp Mar 8 @ 8:26 PM EST

@dr_jdean @onewheeljoe @ennasuite still looking for that copy to clipboard feature ;) #profchat

avunque Mar 8 @ 8:26 PM EST

@actualham @dr_jdean #public & #open may share the public feature, but open is something you can actually participate into, remix #profchat

onewheeljoe Mar 8 @ 8:26 PM EST

@dr_jdean @ennasuite Good to think about the trade-offs when we opt to use the high traffic social channels. #profchat

LisaMLane Mar 8 @ 8:26 PM EST

@enkerli But commenting on text with text is an important skill - has been for a long time #profchat

tutaleni Mar 8 @ 8:27 PM EST

Tutaleni from @OSUCollegeofEd , a bit late to the party #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:27 PM EST

@tutaleni @OSUCollegeofEd Hey Tatulani, glad you could join #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:27 PM EST

In code-based contexts, being good with codes is valued. #profchat https://t.co/tVp5NUuQDD

LisaMLane Mar 8 @ 8:26 PM EST

@enkerli But commenting on text with text is an important skill - has been for a long time #profchat

LisaMLane Mar 8 @ 8:28 PM EST

@remiholden @actualham I am delighted to see others who take that public employee thing seriously - I do too! #profchat

dr_jdean Mar 8 @ 8:28 PM EST

@telliowkuwp yes! though it's not super easy to do. #profchat

GoogleGuacamole Mar 8 @ 8:28 PM EST

@actualham I've always thought open is very closely related to community engaged research in philosophy and spectral qualities #profchat

PhilSDSU Mar 8 @ 8:28 PM EST

Another rec for @hypothes_is. Great tool. Also someone mentioned @RapGenius which is also fantastic and underrated by academics. #profchat

telliowkuwp Mar 8 @ 8:28 PM EST

@LisaMLane @enkerli can we make please make room for #profchat

ohsoearly Mar 8 @ 8:28 PM EST

@cherisemcb @actualham @dr_jdean I like your "private shared environment" - well said #profchat

katemath Mar 8 @ 8:28 PM EST

@wiobyrne You following #profchat tonight? All about annotation. Lots of talk about @hypothes_is -- I learned about this today from you!

judell Mar 8 @ 8:28 PM EST

"Can Hypothes.is be self-served? " @telliokwup Yes, add to any page. #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:29 PM EST

@GoogleGuacamole @actualham spectral qualities? #profchat

enkerli Mar 8 @ 8:29 PM EST

@LisaMLane Might be interested in that part of literacy research, without confirmation bias. #IvanIllich #Profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:29 PM EST

@LisaMLane @actualham you better believe it! #profchat

onewheeljoe Mar 8 @ 8:29 PM EST

@LisaMLane @enkerli Seen @telliowkuwp annotate peers' blog posts with .gifs of his own creation. Lots of potential using hypertext #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:29 PM EST

Q3 coming up in a minute... #profchat

GoogleGuacamole Mar 8 @ 8:30 PM EST

@remiholden @actualham :). As in both spectra, not binaries (it's not open-closed; community-traditional) #profchat. Not ghostly :)

PhilSDSU Mar 8 @ 8:30 PM EST

A2 I think one of biggest pros is that public annotation can really improve critical digital literacy skills and can also be fun! #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:30 PM EST

@onewheeljoe @LisaMLane @enkerli @telliowkuwp Yes, hypermedia can bring us further than textuality. Same with orality. #profchat

telliowkuwp Mar 8 @ 8:30 PM EST

@judell cool and simple! #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:30 PM EST

@onewheeljoe @LisaMLane @enkerli @telliowkuwp yes, i'm curious abt semiotic qualities of web annotation, diff than book margin #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:30 PM EST

Q3 For teachers, what pedagogy helps you facilitate open annotation? And for students, what supports help you to annotate in open? #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:30 PM EST

And here's @tellio's awesome Q3 pic! #profchat https://t.co/ZKhJtpwUE4

jweeble Mar 8 @ 8:31 PM EST

Exactly! #profchat https://t.co/XzQQLUEAuj

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:30 PM EST

@onewheeljoe @LisaMLane @enkerli @telliowkuwp yes, i'm curious abt semiotic qualities of web annotation, diff than book margin #profchat

tutaleni Mar 8 @ 8:31 PM EST

Orality is often overlooked or even dismissed in academia #profchat https://t.co/UhT6vExEoL

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:30 PM EST

@onewheeljoe @LisaMLane @enkerli @telliowkuwp Yes, hypermedia can bring us further than textuality. Same with orality. #profchat

LisaMLane Mar 8 @ 8:31 PM EST

@telliowkuwp would you mind sharing a link for annotating peers' posts with gifs? @onewheeljoe #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:31 PM EST

@PhilSDSU can you tell us more about the fun - what i might call playful - qualities of open web annotation? #profchat

telliowkuwp Mar 8 @ 8:31 PM EST

@onewheeljoe @LisaMLane @enkerli I have even had good effect in annotating pix with SnagIt and then dropping them into an annotat. #profchat

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:32 PM EST

A3: Going to toss my undergrad student's blog about using @hypothes_is in here: https://t.co/3uqZwDl4nu #profchat @essentiallyshan

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:32 PM EST

A3 Connectivism (@Downes/@GSiemens) has a lot to bring to #OpenAnnotation pedagogy. Conceptual links matter. #profchat

jweeble Mar 8 @ 8:32 PM EST

@LisaMLane @telliowkuwp @onewheeljoe Its built right into the @hypothes_is #profchat

avunque Mar 8 @ 8:32 PM EST

sorry to leave... have to pick up daughter! #profchat

ambartosik Mar 8 @ 8:32 PM EST

A3 constructivist model - self-directed learning #profchat

PhilSDSU Mar 8 @ 8:32 PM EST

A3 I'm an advocate for inquiry-based learning. Annotation allows for open questions to be asked and answered more easily. #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:32 PM EST

@avunque thanks for jumping into #profchat Antonio, great to have you here!

LisaMLane Mar 8 @ 8:33 PM EST

@tutaleni I think orality also requires practice - I know a lot of teachers using @voicethread for verbal annotation #profchat

enkerli Mar 8 @ 8:33 PM EST

A3 Any pedagogy which affords some agency on the part of learners. Besides specific models. #profchat

ennasuite Mar 8 @ 8:33 PM EST

A3: The way we can collect annotations like tagging, for easy reference #profchat

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:33 PM EST

A3: For me, using web annotation in class is related to a larger slate of ways I engage my students with public scholarship. #profchat

avunque Mar 8 @ 8:33 PM EST

@remiholden Same here! Will check log later #profchat

telliowkuwp Mar 8 @ 8:33 PM EST

@LisaMLane @tutaleni @voicethread Dif strokes, but for me the least workflow friction with Hypoth therefore I use it more. #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:34 PM EST

@avunque wonderful, and i'll send out a storify link #profchat

ambartosik Mar 8 @ 8:34 PM EST

Oh, I know who can answer this @ohsoearly #profchat https://t.co/0RVXNTVonG

LisaMLane Mar 8 @ 8:31 PM EST

@telliowkuwp would you mind sharing a link for annotating peers' posts with gifs? @onewheeljoe #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:34 PM EST

Some of our lab participants advocated for screencasts in providing feedback to learners. #VoiceAnnotation #profchat https://t.co/J4zWF0ZTbA

LisaMLane Mar 8 @ 8:33 PM EST

@tutaleni I think orality also requires practice - I know a lot of teachers using @voicethread for verbal annotation #profchat

onewheeljoe Mar 8 @ 8:34 PM EST

@LisaMLane You might be interested to scroll through his public notes. https://t.co/hFrfSGA5Kc Some cool artifacts. @telliowkuwp #profchat

LisaMLane Mar 8 @ 8:34 PM EST

@telliowkuwp @onewheeljoe @enkerli I used to do that with Flickr, when Flickr had easy annotations - anything comparable now? #profchat

tutaleni Mar 8 @ 8:34 PM EST

But isn't orality more natural? #profchat https://t.co/E6MqwcFkqa

LisaMLane Mar 8 @ 8:33 PM EST

@tutaleni I think orality also requires practice - I know a lot of teachers using @voicethread for verbal annotation #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:34 PM EST

@vtelive I frequently record screencasts for my online courses, like #ILT5320. #profchat

PhilSDSU Mar 8 @ 8:34 PM EST

Great point here @LisaMLane. Esp as courses move online/hybrid tools like @voicethread afford students same opp as F2F. @tutaleni #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:35 PM EST

Orality isn’t a lack of textuality but texts often lack Bakhtin’s polyvocality. #profchat https://t.co/7PJek2SvhO

tutaleni Mar 8 @ 8:34 PM EST
But isn't orality more natural? #profchat https://t.co/E6MqwcFkqa
- LisaMLane Mar 8 @ 8:33 PM EST
  
  @tutaleni I think orality also requires practice - I know a lot of teachers using @voicethread for verbal annotation #profchat

telliowkuwp Mar 8 @ 8:35 PM EST

@LisaMLane @onewheeljoe @enkerli snagit is really easy along with upload to Google Docs. #profchat

LisaMLane Mar 8 @ 8:35 PM EST

@tutaleni Orality is natural, yes, but in an academic context I think requires practice for expressing/advancing learning #profchat

onewheeljoe Mar 8 @ 8:35 PM EST

A3 Leading pro learning in K12, I've asked folks to annotate to make meaning, to discuss text, and to direct questions at author #profchat

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:36 PM EST

Gettin all heteroglossic up here in the #profchat.

tutaleni Mar 8 @ 8:36 PM EST

Good point. Often it is presented as an absence or contrasted with textuality which need not be the case. #profchat https://t.co/deaJvgXgrt

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:35 PM EST
Orality isn’t a lack of textuality but texts often lack Bakhtin’s polyvocality. #profchat https://t.co/7PJek2SvhO
- tutaleni Mar 8 @ 8:34 PM EST
  
  But isn't orality more natural? #profchat https://t.co/E6MqwcFkqa
  
  LisaMLane Mar 8 @ 8:33 PM EST
  
  @tutaleni I think orality also requires practice - I know a lot of teachers using @voicethread for verbal annotation #profchat

LisaMLane Mar 8 @ 8:36 PM EST

@remiholden @vtelive Say, I could have students annotate my screencasts... hadn't thought of that. Annotate the planet! :-) #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:37 PM EST

@onewheeljoe and you've done an awesome job doing that, combing F2F facilitation w use of @hypothes_is for deep learning #profchat

ambartosik Mar 8 @ 8:37 PM EST

@LisaMLane @tutaleni @voicethread I use it to reinforce language skills and encourage asynchronous conversations for ESL learners #profchat

enkerli Mar 8 @ 8:37 PM EST

Part of the issue with academia is in exacerbating social inequalities. Scriptocentris: case in point. #profchat https://t.co/TOx6mttFnG

LisaMLane Mar 8 @ 8:35 PM EST

@tutaleni Orality is natural, yes, but in an academic context I think requires practice for expressing/advancing learning #profchat

jweeble Mar 8 @ 8:37 PM EST

@LisaMLane @remiholden @vtelive videonote is also nice for that #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:37 PM EST

Q4 coming up in a minute... #profchat

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:37 PM EST

@jweeble @LisaMLane @remiholden @vtelive What's videonote do? Sorry to butt in. :) #profchat

jweeble Mar 8 @ 8:37 PM EST

A3: collaborative sensemaking and meaning making, making thinking visible #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:38 PM EST

Following a chain of attribution is a challenge to texts and a common practice in oral traditions. #profchat https://t.co/hVtwsNAqdz

tutaleni Mar 8 @ 8:36 PM EST
Good point. Often it is presented as an absence or contrasted with textuality which need not be the case. #profchat https://t.co/deaJvgXgrt
- vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:35 PM EST
  
  Orality isn’t a lack of textuality but texts often lack Bakhtin’s polyvocality. #profchat https://t.co/7PJek2SvhO
  
  tutaleni Mar 8 @ 8:34 PM EST
  
  But isn't orality more natural? #profchat https://t.co/E6MqwcFkqa
  
  LisaMLane Mar 8 @ 8:33 PM EST
  
  @tutaleni I think orality also requires practice - I know a lot of teachers using @voicethread for verbal annotation #profchat

ennasuite Mar 8 @ 8:38 PM EST

@jweeble Well said! #profchat

ambartosik Mar 8 @ 8:38 PM EST

@tutaleni @LisaMLane @voicethread I think so - also more understandable on students' written work rather than "marking codes" #profchat

wiobyrne Mar 8 @ 8:38 PM EST

@katemath look at all of the rock stars on #profchat tonight :) @dr_jdean we're all talking about @hypothes_is today :)

onewheeljoe Mar 8 @ 8:38 PM EST

A3 (pt 2) We also screen shared during a google hangout to document our annotation work during a flash mob https://t.co/1dKsRKjgrp #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:39 PM EST

@wiobyrne jump in! #profchat

enkerli Mar 8 @ 8:39 PM EST

Not to go too Socratic on anyone but anthros have often noted the calcification of thought in text. #profchat

PhilSDSU Mar 8 @ 8:39 PM EST

.@remiholden I think it stimulates our voyeuristic tendencies and is closer to the commentary you see in popular spots like Reddit #profchat

cogdog Mar 8 @ 8:39 PM EST

Oops, got distracted by nice weather outside. Howdy #profchat late in from Strawberry AZ

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:39 PM EST

this was an awesome event, a way of mashing up open annotation with a flash mob for educator #profdev #profchat https://t.co/5ANZrOdGEu

onewheeljoe Mar 8 @ 8:38 PM EST

A3 (pt 2) We also screen shared during a google hangout to document our annotation work during a flash mob https://t.co/1dKsRKjgrp #profchat

jweeble Mar 8 @ 8:39 PM EST

@actualham @LisaMLane @remiholden @vtelive oops https://t.co/hqsKwv7e9Z saves to drive, collaborative video annotation #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:39 PM EST

Q4 What is the future of open annotation in #highered… in courses, civic engagement, institutional collaboration, and research? #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:40 PM EST

And here's @tellio's awesome Q4 pic! #profchat https://t.co/g3BD849cvy

ohsoearly Mar 8 @ 8:40 PM EST

@ambartosik @LisaMLane @telliowkuwp @onewheeljoe GIFs in annotation? Seriously? #profchat https://t.co/OtaBA9814Z

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:40 PM EST

@jweeble @actualham @LisaMLane @vtelive that's so cool, i'll start using this with #ILT5320 soon! thx for sharing #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:40 PM EST

A2 (yet again) The gamification dimension of some annotation practices encourages a specific type of behaviour. #profchat

ennasuite Mar 8 @ 8:41 PM EST

@ohsoearly You don't like? #profchat

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:41 PM EST

Q4: One thing I hope is that we start seeing the web as a place to think together, not just as a place to portfolio ourselves. #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:41 PM EST

@ohsoearly @ambartosik @LisaMLane @telliowkuwp @onewheeljoe check out margins of the #ILT5320 blog, like https://t.co/fZZQ4HrXgm #profchat

cogdog Mar 8 @ 8:41 PM EST

A4: standard Gibsonian fallback- unevenly distributed #profchat

judell Mar 8 @ 8:41 PM EST

"Howdy #profchat late in from Strawberry AZ" Hey @cogdog, it's been a while, nice to see you!

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:41 PM EST

And by Q4, clearly I meant A4. #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:41 PM EST

particularly relevant for #ILT5320 #profchat https://t.co/nGY9Xu2wl1

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:40 PM EST

A2 (yet again) The gamification dimension of some annotation practices encourages a specific type of behaviour. #profchat

dr_jdean Mar 8 @ 8:41 PM EST

re Q4 in #profchat got to bring up "open" (my def) again: we really need to think long about the tools/the ecosystem in terms of future.

wiobyrne Mar 8 @ 8:41 PM EST

@remiholden definitely need to empower learners to add a social, annotated layer to the Internet...IMHO Q4 #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:42 PM EST

A4 Wider adoption of #OpenStandards, true interoperability, self-appropriation of learners’ data, going beyond “effect”… #profchat

tutaleni Mar 8 @ 8:42 PM EST

Hopefully the future has true open annotation in #highered ; accessibile to many even outside of class #profchat https://t.co/Vdxfi7CXYy

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:39 PM EST

Q4 What is the future of open annotation in #highered… in courses, civic engagement, institutional collaboration, and research? #profchat

ambartosik Mar 8 @ 8:42 PM EST

A4 Hopefully, acceptance. Too much resistance to it - perceived as an inferior method, or laziness on part of instructor #profchat

jweeble Mar 8 @ 8:42 PM EST

@remiholden @actualham @LisaMLane @vtelive :)using it this summer in the course i'm now building @hypothes_is into for annotation #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:43 PM EST

@dr_jdean and can you tell us more about ecosystem? as a learning scientist, i think we prob define ecosystem/ecology differently #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:43 PM EST

@remiholden Was thinking about #ILT5320 as well as a tricky case with Genius. #profchat

dr_jdean Mar 8 @ 8:43 PM EST

2) re Q4 in #profchat: if all these annotations tools aren't interoperable, then esp "institutional collaboration" will be very difficult

onewheeljoe Mar 8 @ 8:44 PM EST

A4 The future is powerful global collaboration like this: https://t.co/rg1vPwLXpz (click at bottom to see replies) #profchat

katemath Mar 8 @ 8:44 PM EST

Hi #profchat. I'm Kate & I'm buried in kids & bedtimes ATM. :) Learned about @hypothes_is today from @wiobyrne at #TLTCon. Life changer.

ennasuite Mar 8 @ 8:44 PM EST

@vtelive @remiholden What about "certified" or "trusted" annotaters, some quality rating system, but by whose measure...? #profchat

misspollock Mar 8 @ 8:44 PM EST

PLN, pls help #rethinkhighschool w 5 min survey RT #profchat #rurualedchat #esc17 #SXSWedu #tntechchat #caflnchat https://t.co/rynET4busr

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:44 PM EST

@dr_jdean in that respect, the ecosystem is linked among platforms, or settings, that are entirely online? #profchat

OtterScotter Mar 8 @ 8:44 PM EST

When we tag content in @hypothes_is we build connections for ourselves and for others. This is the next level of info/web searches #profchat

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:45 PM EST

I also want to throw in there that when I'm thinking about open tools & public work, it matters to me if my #EdTech is nonprofit. #profchat

sylvanrobert1 Mar 8 @ 8:45 PM EST

@actualham Thank you! #profchat

krisshaffer Mar 8 @ 8:45 PM EST

@dr_jdean Agree. We need to go beyond content and think about open remixing tools, APIs, etc. #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:46 PM EST

@OtterScotter yes, and added search features w, for ex @hypothes_is stream, will certainly change how ppl access, sort & use info #profchat

cogdog Mar 8 @ 8:46 PM EST

A4: Annotation alone is a neat tool, what do we do with the stuff? Connected to? It's like great class conversation... #profchat`

jweeble Mar 8 @ 8:46 PM EST

Need ways to make the tools operate seamlessly-layering and connecting resources as well as annotations #profchat https://t.co/AJLXCqtQ5s

dr_jdean Mar 8 @ 8:43 PM EST

2) re Q4 in #profchat: if all these annotations tools aren't interoperable, then esp "institutional collaboration" will be very difficult

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:46 PM EST

The problem with profit-making in education might be about incentives. Do we want people to learn? #profchat https://t.co/PLyxDFVygw

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:45 PM EST

I also want to throw in there that when I'm thinking about open tools & public work, it matters to me if my #EdTech is nonprofit. #profchat

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:46 PM EST

@cogdog in the house! #profchat

wiobyrne Mar 8 @ 8:46 PM EST

@ennasuite agreed, def. concerned about critical literacy...& who is annotating, as opposed to who is silent @vtelive @remiholden #profchat

stephwurking Mar 8 @ 8:47 PM EST

Hello #profchat - pardon my late arrival!

cogdog Mar 8 @ 8:47 PM EST

@actualham hiya Robin. I know I'm in the right place if you are here #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:47 PM EST

@dr_jdean yes. i typically ref advances like mobile learning, and theory like situated cognition #profchat

jweeble Mar 8 @ 8:47 PM EST

@ennasuite @vtelive @remiholden Does this privilege certain viewpoints then...eliminate benefits of open or public? #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:47 PM EST

In academia, we’re all about great conversation… often to the detriment of other dimensions of learning. #profchat https://t.co/U2aqY84go1

cogdog Mar 8 @ 8:46 PM EST

A4: Annotation alone is a neat tool, what do we do with the stuff? Connected to? It's like great class conversation... #profchat`

ohsoearly Mar 8 @ 8:47 PM EST

@ennasuite this would more accurately describe my emotions #profchat https://t.co/2ppXzeAGHT

OtterScotter Mar 8 @ 8:47 PM EST

@remiholden @hypothes_is Connections will be more important than content as we move forward. #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:48 PM EST

If annotations are the content, connections are the containers? #profchat https://t.co/Tuomo7N3sn

OtterScotter Mar 8 @ 8:47 PM EST

@remiholden @hypothes_is Connections will be more important than content as we move forward. #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:48 PM EST

@cogdog it is a class convo, and if that provides useful formative feedback to learners, or strengthens peer collaboration... #profchat

ennasuite Mar 8 @ 8:48 PM EST

@jweeble @vtelive @remiholden Great question. Users rate each other, and then become either credible or not, base on popularity? #profchat

onewheeljoe Mar 8 @ 8:49 PM EST

@wiobyrne @ennasuite @vtelive @remiholden How might open annotation amplify marginalized voices? Counter mainstream narratives? #profchat

cherisemcb Mar 8 @ 8:49 PM EST

A3 hashtags are a great tool for indexing students' annotations. Teaches the concept of distilling to main ideas #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:49 PM EST

@vtelive no, the pathways! #profchat

cogdog Mar 8 @ 8:49 PM EST

I remember promise of annotation in Mosaic browser, maybe 3-4 bolt-on attempts since; @hypothes_is is 1st that feels viable #profchat

LisaMLane Mar 8 @ 8:49 PM EST

A4 one future thing would be to have more ways to follow annotation trails #profchat

ambartosik Mar 8 @ 8:50 PM EST

It could be an artefact in a digital portfolio #profchat https://t.co/GyxoVTrANf

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:48 PM EST

@cogdog it is a class convo, and if that provides useful formative feedback to learners, or strengthens peer collaboration... #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:50 PM EST

First mention of Andreessen, tonight? #profchat https://t.co/oPp3ft4jEh

cogdog Mar 8 @ 8:49 PM EST

I remember promise of annotation in Mosaic browser, maybe 3-4 bolt-on attempts since; @hypothes_is is 1st that feels viable #profchat

jweeble Mar 8 @ 8:50 PM EST

But also consider - popularity is not a given for credibility or "right". (Is there a Truth with a cap T?) #profchat https://t.co/mbLHEy9kFk

ennasuite Mar 8 @ 8:48 PM EST

@jweeble @vtelive @remiholden Great question. Users rate each other, and then become either credible or not, base on popularity? #profchat

ennasuite Mar 8 @ 8:50 PM EST

@remiholden @cogdog In 100% online classes, facilitating these connections is crucial #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:50 PM EST

@LisaMLane yes, lots of discussion abt tracing tags, responses & even media across multiple texts & groups over time #profchat

cherisemcb Mar 8 @ 8:50 PM EST

A4 open annotation will become more widespread, especially as #OERs continue to grow #profchat

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:50 PM EST

THIS. Annotation as a way for margins to quite literally shift/change master narratives. Subversive. #profchat https://t.co/aP5t8lOtRz

onewheeljoe Mar 8 @ 8:49 PM EST

@wiobyrne @ennasuite @vtelive @remiholden How might open annotation amplify marginalized voices? Counter mainstream narratives? #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:50 PM EST

Chains of attribution, #OpenAnnotation is about the “Great Conversation”. https://t.co/6l1tGiT2I5 #profchat https://t.co/iLrpKu4Im6

LisaMLane Mar 8 @ 8:49 PM EST

A4 one future thing would be to have more ways to follow annotation trails #profchat

ennasuite Mar 8 @ 8:51 PM EST

@jweeble Not at all, hence the ? mark! #profchat

cherisemcb Mar 8 @ 8:51 PM EST

@actualham collaborative thinking across borders is a valuable strength of the web #profchat

judell Mar 8 @ 8:51 PM EST

"more ways to follow annotation trails " @LisaMLane Axes of interest: user, group, domain/URL, tag, freetext. What else? #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:52 PM EST

When we walk the walk of working through cultural diversity, shared references aren’t assumed. #profchat https://t.co/h0SRO8x2Jm

cherisemcb Mar 8 @ 8:51 PM EST

@actualham collaborative thinking across borders is a valuable strength of the web #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:52 PM EST

@actualham Absolutely. The more I think about open annotation, the more I think about graffiti, symbols, conflict, identity #profchat

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:52 PM EST

@remiholden Who wrote that brilliant thing about playful annotation? Was that you? #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:52 PM EST

A common complaint from publishers about annotations is the lack of control. They feel defaced. #profchat https://t.co/Slc7dxsrgD

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:52 PM EST

@actualham Absolutely. The more I think about open annotation, the more I think about graffiti, symbols, conflict, identity #profchat

stephwurking Mar 8 @ 8:52 PM EST

It's happening right now, if I am not mistaken - collaborative thinking #profchat https://t.co/q5PnQnycJo

cherisemcb Mar 8 @ 8:51 PM EST

@actualham collaborative thinking across borders is a valuable strength of the web #profchat

cogdog Mar 8 @ 8:53 PM EST

A4 ditto @LisaMLane What about ability to *make* annotation trails, put 'em together storify like? #profchat

ennasuite Mar 8 @ 8:53 PM EST

@remiholden @actualham That's an awesome connection. In graffiti culture it is afterall called "tagging" #profchat

onewheeljoe Mar 8 @ 8:53 PM EST

@actualham Here's one effort to use open annotation to give youth voice during election @innovates_ed #nwp #profchat https://t.co/4KHzOxJ8To

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:53 PM EST

@actualham yes, there's a few folks, like @onewheeljoe @dr_jdean & #ILT5320 who are thinking abt playfulness in annotation #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:53 PM EST

@stephwurking Not much border-crossing, though. #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:54 PM EST

Q5 coming up in a minute... #profchat

OtterScotter Mar 8 @ 8:54 PM EST

@judell @LisaMLane Enormous amount of possibilities here... #profchat

ambartosik Mar 8 @ 8:54 PM EST

@cogdog @LisaMLane @voicethread does that #profchat

onewheeljoe Mar 8 @ 8:54 PM EST

@actualham @remiholden Yes. And the margins on that are playful, too, if you use @hypothes_is to look. #profchat

jweeble Mar 8 @ 8:54 PM EST

@cogdog @LisaMLane or map them out - visual representation of the trails and connections #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:54 PM EST

Our @hypothes_is wishlists might merge. And not just on GitHub or issue trackers. #profchat https://t.co/7wQHJIRpYV

cogdog Mar 8 @ 8:53 PM EST

A4 ditto @LisaMLane What about ability to *make* annotation trails, put 'em together storify like? #profchat

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:54 PM EST

Here's that brilliant, fun piece I was just talking about on playful annotation: https://t.co/kI0rWDSVQd #profchat

cherisemcb Mar 8 @ 8:55 PM EST

Tonight's #profchat is on a roll! I can hardly keep up!

philosophypaul Mar 8 @ 8:55 PM EST

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remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:55 PM EST

From Brassai to Banksy, there's certainly a strong connection between annotation in networked publics & open web annotation #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:55 PM EST

Q5 Let’s crowdsource open annotation resources! Who are the people and what tools, networks and texts should we know about & why? #profchat

stephwurking Mar 8 @ 8:55 PM EST

Is Sketchnote ideal for this? #profchat https://t.co/2QIXe6aLxD

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:52 PM EST

@actualham Absolutely. The more I think about open annotation, the more I think about graffiti, symbols, conflict, identity #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:55 PM EST

And here's @tellio's awesome Q5 pic! #profchat https://t.co/fjFjsEZmqa

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:55 PM EST

Culture Jamming is still about culture. And some agencies may wish to reapproriate culture. #profchat https://t.co/dFs6CLXHuE

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:55 PM EST

From Brassai to Banksy, there's certainly a strong connection between annotation in networked publics & open web annotation #profchat

cherisemcb Mar 8 @ 8:56 PM EST

@stephwurking can you collaborate in #sketchnote? #profchat

ambartosik Mar 8 @ 8:56 PM EST

@remiholden love Bansky #profchat especially roadway stuff

cogdog Mar 8 @ 8:56 PM EST

A5 Was interested in Trailblazer chrome thing for building web trails, have not seen much action https://t.co/WiK9CKBX20 #profchat

vtelive Mar 8 @ 8:57 PM EST

A5 Quite a few annotation-friendly influences in our #OER outliner on @Diigo. https://t.co/6mygFthK7l #profchat

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:57 PM EST

I follow @dr_jdean and @judell because it's amazing to see a tool develop because it listens to its users. @hypothes_is #profchat

telliowkuwp Mar 8 @ 8:57 PM EST

@LisaMLane @remiholden @vtelive @LisaMLane @remiholden @vtelive If you upload to Vialogues you can have your students annotate. #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:57 PM EST

THIS #profchat https://t.co/ryVGQpn3Th

actualham Mar 8 @ 8:57 PM EST

I follow @dr_jdean and @judell because it's amazing to see a tool develop because it listens to its users. @hypothes_is #profchat

stephwurking Mar 8 @ 8:58 PM EST

@cherisemcb Don't know - been meaning to get round to using #sketchnotes but never have, actually. #profchat

cherisemcb Mar 8 @ 8:58 PM EST

A5 Rap Genius, now just https://t.co/ONetOHhR3M @Genius is a great site that I've seen other composition teachers use. #profchat

jweeble Mar 8 @ 8:58 PM EST

using https://t.co/hqsKwv7e9Z and @hypothes_is in drive - could be pretty seamless #profchat

enkerli Mar 8 @ 8:58 PM EST

Do people know @renoirb? He was working with @w3c on #OpenAnnotation groups. #profchat

cogdog Mar 8 @ 8:58 PM EST

A5: With @judell in the mix, there's gonna by tag/taxonomy and rss feed goodness for sure (right?) #profchat

onewheeljoe Mar 8 @ 8:59 PM EST

A5 @telliowkuwp @dogtrax @sensor63 @NomadWarMachine @taniatorikova Routinely mark up blogs, articles in pop up flash mob style. #profchat

remiholden Mar 8 @ 8:59 PM EST

#profchat https://t.co/5ATH4hw9bS

dr_jdean Mar 8 @ 8:59 PM EST

A5 i often recommend @jbj's "There Are No New Directions in Annotation" as a kind of primer. Annotated version: https://t.co/kc7JjxNLyE

cherisemcb Mar 8 @ 8:59 PM EST

A5b I like that @diigo has the plug-in that you can add to your browser address bar. #profchat