#ATchat Archive
#ATchat makes education and educational materials accessible to all students.
Wednesday October 26, 2016
8:00 PM EDT
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Welcome to the Oct 26th edition of
#ATchat
. Please let us know who you are and where you are from. We are so glad you are joining us tonight
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Hey now
#ATchat
Co-mod & AT Specialist checking in tonight from Chicago; doing 2 days of Chrome training for Infinitec
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Our topic tonight is AT Service Delivery in the schools.
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:01 PM EDT
@mpdoty
Hi Mary, Welcome to
#ATchat
- have you joined us before?
possbeth
Oct 26 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Beth from Maryland. Exhausted, but here!
#atchat
rtopp
Oct 26 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Becky from Nebraska Special Education Teacher
#atchat
allie_SLP
Oct 26 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Excited for my first
#atchat
! Saw
@mmatp
today for Google Bootcamp and had lots of fun!
CwiseCarol
Oct 26 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Carol from Hingham #atudl#16
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:02 PM EDT
As a reminder-here is how AT services is defined under IDEA
https://t.co/2nGn6N1Do6
#atchat
MaegeK
Oct 26 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Hi Maegan from CT
#ATchat
EGraniero
Oct 26 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Emily Graniero from CT
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:02 PM EDT
@possbeth
Hey, Beth - pour yourself a glass of wine and pull up a chair!
#ATchat
PattyATP
Oct 26 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Tuning in from TX
#Atchat
KerriHslp
Oct 26 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Kerri from RI
#atchat
wernedat
Oct 26 @ 8:02 PM EDT
hey there, Elisa from Florida.
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:03 PM EDT
We will use the Q1, A1 format today. Don’t forget to include
#atchat
hashtag
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:03 PM EDT
@rtopp
@allie_SLP
@MaegeK
@EGraniero
@PattyATP
Hi all- great to have you here!
#ATchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:03 PM EDT
So glad you joined us tonight for
#Atchat
Had a blast with the group today talking all things Chrome!
https://t.co/ZgcVAJ7XvI
allie_SLP
Oct 26 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Excited for my first
#atchat
! Saw
@mmatp
today for Google Bootcamp and had lots of fun!
wernedat
Oct 26 @ 8:03 PM EDT
@possbeth
me too - could be very entertaining if we are all exhausted AT Spec tonight
#atchat
KelbRiechers
Oct 26 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Kelly from MA
#atchat
#atudl16
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Looking forward to many of our
#atudl16
friends joining
#Atchat
tonight
@JenniferSavedge
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Q1:
#ATchat
What does service delivery look like in your district? Which part of it is working?
VickiBostonSLP
Oct 26 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Hi- Vicki in Memphis, just finished listening to a great
@USSAAC
webinar on AAC Family Voices.
#atchat
carson_bug
Oct 26 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Hi again. Just checking in for tonight's at chat. Chris Bugden (east)
#atchat
#atudl16
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:04 PM EDT
@KarenJan
Hi- This is sooo much easier for me to follow than the FB chat!
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:05 PM EDT
When answering Q1, keep in mind how federal law defines service delivery.
https://t.co/B3zHCnphP2
,
#ATchat
mpdoty
Oct 26 @ 8:05 PM EDT
@KarenJan
I have in September with my Eastern class
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:05 PM EDT
@bcdtech
@KarenJan
I agree Maureen! I always seem to lose my place on the FB discussion
#Atchat
speechrockerPC
Oct 26 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Joining from Williamstown. we do not have an AT point person in our schools. THe administration says DESE doesn't require it...
#ATchat
KelbRiechers
Oct 26 @ 8:05 PM EDT
A1: in the process of revamping procedures and forms. PD on Friday to launch new protocol
#atchat
#atudl16
rtopp
Oct 26 @ 8:05 PM EDT
A1 different we have a new person. still figuring things out. starting to refer some to me.
#Atchat
allie_SLP
Oct 26 @ 8:05 PM EDT
@KarenJan
@rtopp
@MaegeK
@EGraniero
@PattyATP
Hi! I'm curious to find out how this whole format works!
#ATchat
adaptechcf
Oct 26 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Hi, Cheryl from MA
#atchat
joysped
Oct 26 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Mike, are you bouncing back and forth between Twitter and Facebook?
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:06 PM EDT
@VickiBostonSLP
@carson_bug
@bcdtech
@speechrockerPC
@KelbRiechers
@rtopp
So great you can all join our
#ATchat
tonight!
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:06 PM EDT
@KarenJan
A1: It feels like way too much emphasis is put on "the grid" rather than on the needs of the Ss
#atchat
kclarke5240
Oct 26 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Karen Clarke OT engaged in AT in MA
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:06 PM EDT
@bcdtech
What do you mean? Can you explain a little more?
#ATchat
https://t.co/G9c9IYXO07
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:06 PM EDT
@KarenJan
A1: It feels like way too much emphasis is put on "the grid" rather than on the needs of the Ss
#atchat
eyeonaxs
Oct 26 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Luis, from Florida.
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:07 PM EDT
@kclarke5240
Welcome Karen! So great to see you here. How are things in your district?
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:07 PM EDT
@eyeonaxs
Is it warm and beautiful in FLorida? Too cold here.
#ATchat
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:07 PM EDT
@KarenJan
All I hear about as far as service delivery is how many minutes/wk or month a Ss receives. It doesn't feel flexible at all
#atchat
rtopp
Oct 26 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1 form to fill out to start services. Not sure we have any written procedures. need a good revamp or at least some written policies
#atchat
alysstets
Oct 26 @ 8:08 PM EDT
From Hershey, Pennsylvania
#ATchat
MaegeK
Oct 26 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1: It varies. We serve a lot of different districts.
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:08 PM EDT
@cheryloakes50
Great you can join our chat tonight. Too cold in NE, right?
#ATchat
benncsb
Oct 26 @ 8:08 PM EDT
I feel like the administration didn't even know what we were asking when we asked about AEM
#atchat
kclarke5240
Oct 26 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1- we have a few different service delivery models- mostly weekly sessions that can last from 8 weeks to a full IEP period.
#atchat
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:08 PM EDT
@KarenJan
@eyeonaxs
Our forecast is for 1-3 inches tomorrow... of snow!
#atchat
wernedat
Oct 26 @ 8:09 PM EDT
A1: for Ss with significant dis esp things like eye gaze is going well. eval, customizing, coord across providers, training is good
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:09 PM EDT
@bcdtech
A1 - great point. That's why we recommend putting service delivery under additional information.
#ATchat
https://t.co/tOU91ivk7M
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:07 PM EDT
@KarenJan
All I hear about as far as service delivery is how many minutes/wk or month a Ss receives. It doesn't feel flexible at all
#atchat
eyeonaxs
Oct 26 @ 8:09 PM EDT
@KarenJan
It is very nice here, but electioned out!
#atchat
rtopp
Oct 26 @ 8:09 PM EDT
A1 not sure all our teachers understand what AT is!
#atchat
KelbRiechers
Oct 26 @ 8:09 PM EDT
@bcdtech
@KarenJan
@eyeonaxs
I heard upped 3-6!
#atchat
#atudl16
mpdoty
Oct 26 @ 8:09 PM EDT
@kclarke5240
Hi everyone
#atchat
carson_bug
Oct 26 @ 8:09 PM EDT
@mmatp
@JenniferSavedge
Hi J & M. I tried saving Book creator file to my google drive and it didn't save. Any help?
#ATchat
#atudl16
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:09 PM EDT
@KelbRiechers
@bcdtech
Depressing. too early for snow.
#ATchat
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:09 PM EDT
@KelbRiechers
@KarenJan
@eyeonaxs
NOOOO I don't have snow tires on yet!
#atchat
alysstets
Oct 26 @ 8:09 PM EDT
A1-collaborative team; constant consideration....all parties take responsibility for AT
#ATchat
benncsb
Oct 26 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Looking for advice on Screencastify?
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Keep the convo going. Join our
#ATchat
Facebook group.
https://t.co/Ab65dJGMNY
possbeth
Oct 26 @ 8:10 PM EDT
@alysstets
the sweetest place on earth!
#atchat
MaegeK
Oct 26 @ 8:10 PM EDT
@rtopp
When I started my education to become an AT I asked my district what the policy was, and they said "There is none."
#ATchat
wernedat
Oct 26 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1 very rarely (oops) do I document on IEP the min etc - but for high intensity needs I will put on AT supports and staff training
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:11 PM EDT
Q2:
#atchat
What part of AT Service Delivery needs to change?
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:11 PM EDT
@alysstets
Awesome. Sounds like your district gets it. How did you get it to work?
#ATchat
https://t.co/5IqhzxYZKr
alysstets
Oct 26 @ 8:09 PM EDT
A1-collaborative team; constant consideration....all parties take responsibility for AT
#ATchat
adaptechcf
Oct 26 @ 8:11 PM EDT
@KarenJan
@bcdtech
How has that been received? Do you still specify specific times?
#atchat
Parker52315
Oct 26 @ 8:11 PM EDT
Couldnt find facebook chat, but glad to be here!
#atchat
kclarke5240
Oct 26 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A1. I like the idea of putting it under additional information- that would give a lot more flexibility as needs evolve
#atchat
rtopp
Oct 26 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A2 written policy, use of the QIAT for checking to make sure we are doing what we need to
#atchat
benncsb
Oct 26 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Follow through without endless meetings
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:12 PM EDT
@adaptechcf
@bcdtech
We recommend up to ___ hours of AT consultation or coaching and define to who.
#ATchat
https://t.co/WizGWMXhRq
adaptechcf
Oct 26 @ 8:11 PM EDT
@KarenJan
@bcdtech
How has that been received? Do you still specify specific times?
#atchat
lrdichiara
Oct 26 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Leslie from NY....Glad I can jump in, even if late!
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:13 PM EDT
@lrdichiara
Welcome! Would love you to comoderate an
#ATchat
. Interested?
joysped
Oct 26 @ 8:13 PM EDT
A1: needs to be more specific and assigned appropriately. Training needed for staff.
#Atchat
PattyATP
Oct 26 @ 8:14 PM EDT
@bcdtech
@KarenJan
AT is support service in Katy TX. Ss w AT r expected to hv what they need all day & sup'd by all. No time in IEP.
#atchat
mpdoty
Oct 26 @ 8:14 PM EDT
@mmatp
I feel that the administration, Sped Directors need to take this class mandatory
#atchat
rtopp
Oct 26 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2 more AT people, there are only 5 to service all of nebraska at the education level
#atchat
kclarke5240
Oct 26 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2- teachers feeling comfortable/supported to be part of service provision
#atchat
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:14 PM EDT
@adaptechcf
@KarenJan
I am not on the "sped" team since my job is tech integration. Most unwanted advice is ignored. Yes- still time
#atchat
cheryloakes50
Oct 26 @ 8:14 PM EDT
#ATchat
I was tweeting in the wrong replies. We have 80%-90% inclusion with special educators and ed techs in classrooms.
MelissaDerrAT
Oct 26 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2:the amount of time ATs spend with students and staff learning the tech and embedding it in class
#atchat
possbeth
Oct 26 @ 8:14 PM EDT
@KarenJan
@adaptechcf
@bcdtech
how do you add coaching to the IEP? It is critical to success but hard to define as a service
#atchat
AssignmentHelpN
Oct 26 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Top 10 Halloween Classroom Parties Snack Ideas
https://t.co/OadBuvYIx0
#atchat
#AVIDchat
#BigBeacon
#ctedlead
#currichat
#EdBeat
#2ndchat
massignmenthelp
Oct 26 @ 8:15 PM EDT
How to Combat Plagiarism in Class
https://t.co/6UNOBWlZfs
#atchat
#AVIDchat
#csk8
#ctedlead
#currichat
#EdBeat
#edubkcl
#2ndchat
wernedat
Oct 26 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2 more school level staff being providers with training (how does every1 else deal w few district leaders and so many students?
#atchat
lrdichiara
Oct 26 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A1: Just worked w/ SPED director 2 revamp the entire AT protocol. It took a yr to refine, but we truly have a system that works now
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:15 PM EDT
@rtopp
Wow - how do you do it? That's a lot of territory to cover. How many miles do you put in a day?
#ATchat
https://t.co/RS0vkfuU6I
rtopp
Oct 26 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2 more AT people, there are only 5 to service all of nebraska at the education level
#atchat
carson_bug
Oct 26 @ 8:15 PM EDT
When I copy book creator file it just says "waiting". Tried 3 times. Chris Bugden
#atchat
#atudl16
Mrbrown1701
Oct 26 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A2: Additional training to help teachers know what is available.
#atchat
#atudl16
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:16 PM EDT
@possbeth
@adaptechcf
@bcdtech
We recommend it under Additional Information.
#ATchat
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:16 PM EDT
@possbeth
@KarenJan
@adaptechcf
Coaching of? Ss, Ts? or anyone who needs it? I do that all the time, whenever asked- not on IEP
#atchat
lrdichiara
Oct 26 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A2: The implementation. Having Ts turnkey the training would b amazing. I'm only 1 person servicing 5 schools, hard 2 b everywhere.
#atchat
rtopp
Oct 26 @ 8:16 PM EDT
@KarenJan
I don't but it's through our ESU's and a grant. I would say you really need to know about AT and request it to get it.
#atchat
cheryloakes50
Oct 26 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2
#ATchat
We don't have an AT person, but I do AT on the side. I get written into IEP's to visit student and teacher 1 time a trimester.
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:17 PM EDT
@lrdichiara
Do you have your protocol as a document that you can share out?
#atchat
alysstets
Oct 26 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2: expectation that EVERYONE is responsible for implementing and considering growth of AT options
#ATchat
possbeth
Oct 26 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2 still seeing expectations for students to be "ready" for an AT system to get services. Devices are available in many classrooms
#atchat
mpdoty
Oct 26 @ 8:17 PM EDT
@cheryloakes50
We don't either
#atchat
PattyATP
Oct 26 @ 8:18 PM EDT
@adaptechcf
@KarenJan
@bcdtech
we include a blurb that AT was considered and what is needed. AT team members follow up w campus.
#atchat
EGraniero
Oct 26 @ 8:18 PM EDT
check out the schedule fir google-ed on air conference coming up in December few good topics about AT
#atchat
.
https://t.co/SMeRANNUFh
GoogleForEdu
Oct 26 @ 6:02 PM EDT
The full
#GoogleEduOnAir
schedule has officially arrived! Choose your own
#PD
adventure
https://t.co/TrBLLua86y
https://t.co/JgyQOfZioL
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:19 PM EDT
Q3: What innovations can we bring to AT Service Delivery? How would you redesign it?
#ATchat
EVteacherHES
Oct 26 @ 8:19 PM EDT
Mary's idea is the one I think could move AT - by getting admin to take this course is the only way I see change. Need more support.
#atchat
rtopp
Oct 26 @ 8:19 PM EDT
#atchat
-- getting on the road. Will try to answer in a bit
PattyATP
Oct 26 @ 8:20 PM EDT
Cloning AT team members
@KarenJan
#atchat
rtopp
Oct 26 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A3 - funding, training, understanding
#atchat
eyeonaxs
Oct 26 @ 8:21 PM EDT
@possbeth
A2: Amazes me how little aweeness there is just of what is built in, ready to use.
#atchat
K_Gagnon6
Oct 26 @ 8:21 PM EDT
@EVteacherHES
Having administration buy-in is crucial
#atchat
#atudl16
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:21 PM EDT
@erinngilmore_
Great to see you here - remember to add the
#ATchat
hashtag!
MaegeK
Oct 26 @ 8:21 PM EDT
A3: increasing AT competence, saving expert model for truly difficult cases.
#ATchat
VickiBostonSLP
Oct 26 @ 8:21 PM EDT
A2/3: I had lots of issues w/admin wanting AT to fit into a neat box. But student/teacher/classroom needs vary & so does service.
#atchat
PattyATP
Oct 26 @ 8:21 PM EDT
@bcdtech
@adaptechcf
@KarenJan
Maureen, I like your spirit of collaboration.
#atchat
cheryloakes50
Oct 26 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A3
#ATchat
nights like this, share with others. Get parents to promote AT. Blog, blog, blog and YOUTUBE is where we will get support of new
carson_bug
Oct 26 @ 8:22 PM EDT
@mmatp
@JenniferSavedge
Am I missing the chat? Not many responders. Chris B
#atchat
#atudl16
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:22 PM EDT
@MaegeK
It always comes back to building capacity. How can we do that?
#ATchat
https://t.co/ZaHNFRW9IC
MaegeK
Oct 26 @ 8:21 PM EDT
A3: increasing AT competence, saving expert model for truly difficult cases.
#ATchat
mpdoty
Oct 26 @ 8:22 PM EDT
@rtopp
Understanding must come first
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Good point. The MA DESE course could be a game changer at the statewide level to promote effective use of AT
#Atchat
https://t.co/Sx4yNnTBha
EVteacherHES
Oct 26 @ 8:19 PM EDT
Mary's idea is the one I think could move AT - by getting admin to take this course is the only way I see change. Need more support.
#atchat
alysstets
Oct 26 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A3...it's not a once and done....should be informally re-evaled regularly; needs change...students grow
#ATchat
possbeth
Oct 26 @ 8:23 PM EDT
@MaegeK
more acknowledgement of the power of the coaching model, as opposed to direct service model on IEPs
#atchat
LaurieGMcGowan
Oct 26 @ 8:23 PM EDT
#ATchat
A1 a bit late to the party tonight. We use the team referral system and SETT process
adaptechcf
Oct 26 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A3: focus on training and getting the team to be invested in using AT on a daily basis not just when the "AT person" is there
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:23 PM EDT
@carson_bug
@JenniferSavedge
Hi Chris. Make sure to follow
#ATchat
Most of the discussion happening there
lrdichiara
Oct 26 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A3: More AT spclist.As much as referral & eval process is impt, implementation is most impt. If not done well it's all for nothing.
#atchat
atslp_jan
Oct 26 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A3: Always need more time for training and educating staff.
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A3 - all staff take ownership, not just special ed Ts. Think UDL to reach all learners.
#ATchat
CwiseCarol
Oct 26 @ 8:24 PM EDT
@mmatp
maybe the Ma DESE could be required for all gen ed and admin
#atudl16
#atchat
eyeonaxs
Oct 26 @ 8:24 PM EDT
@cheryloakes50
You are right, you can clone urself with YouTube, blog. Provide resources for 24/7 learning/support.
#atchat
KelbRiechers
Oct 26 @ 8:25 PM EDT
@eyeonaxs
@possbeth
love to see PD day just for this, could change many S Just get the word out on what we already have
#atchat
#atudl16
rtopp
Oct 26 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A3. Teaching students that it's a tool and teachers that it's a tool and not a game system
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:25 PM EDT
@eyeonaxs
@cheryloakes50
great points. We need to use all available platforms to meet each learner wherever they are
#Atchat
lrdichiara
Oct 26 @ 8:25 PM EDT
@alysstets
Couldn't agree more...Revisiting AT each yr & makes adjustments if needed! It's a big pt of having tech meet the Ss needs
#atchat
kclarke5240
Oct 26 @ 8:26 PM EDT
Getting admin support is huge- how to get them on board for supporting system changes and supports, not just student by student
#atchat
Parker52315
Oct 26 @ 8:26 PM EDT
@cheryloakes50
I like the idea of getting parents involved.often takes a parent or someone from outside to start a ripple..
#atudl16
#atchat
jul13tourney
Oct 26 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A3 W/ so much IT in classrooms, accessibility features could be part of intro training. AT & IT pros should unite.
#atchat
MaegeK
Oct 26 @ 8:26 PM EDT
I think it is important to take advantage of staff interested already interested in tech.
#ATchat
https://t.co/Lqw8biH32P
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:22 PM EDT
@MaegeK
It always comes back to building capacity. How can we do that?
#ATchat
https://t.co/ZaHNFRW9IC
MaegeK
Oct 26 @ 8:21 PM EDT
A3: increasing AT competence, saving expert model for truly difficult cases.
#ATchat
MelissaDerrAT
Oct 26 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A3:not nec. innovation, but allowing Ss 2 use built in tools that are readily available
#atchat
mpdoty
Oct 26 @ 8:26 PM EDT
@KarenJan
I agree, and I try to show other teachers the apps and extensions. I use my devices with my students.
#atchat
wernedat
Oct 26 @ 8:26 PM EDT
@mmatp
what course is this? Hoping maybe Florida could follow suit?
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:27 PM EDT
@jul13tourney
Love it. New rallying cry - AT & IT pros Unite!
#ATchat
https://t.co/NVrth0OzKE
jul13tourney
Oct 26 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A3 W/ so much IT in classrooms, accessibility features could be part of intro training. AT & IT pros should unite.
#atchat
lrdichiara
Oct 26 @ 8:27 PM EDT
@KarenJan
Absolutely! I'm trying 2 do this slowly w/ in-district PD sessions. I work w/ incredible team members who r eager 2 learn!
#atchat
K_Gagnon6
Oct 26 @ 8:27 PM EDT
@KarenJan
I'm working with a gen ed teacher trying to help bring AT into the classroom..coteaching SS tomorrow
#udl
#atchat
#atudl16
Parker52315
Oct 26 @ 8:27 PM EDT
@rtopp
#atudl16
#atchat
Yes!!
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:27 PM EDT
Yes - we should combine forces. We are not on opposite sides. Must work together
#Atchat
https://t.co/TasRf7UAig
jul13tourney
Oct 26 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A3 W/ so much IT in classrooms, accessibility features could be part of intro training. AT & IT pros should unite.
#atchat
joysped
Oct 26 @ 8:27 PM EDT
A1: I know you're looking to us to champion AT in our schools, but could a scaled-down version of the course be carried to a school?
#Atchat
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:27 PM EDT
@mmatp
Can you say that a little louder Mike? I know someone who needs to hear it...
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:28 PM EDT
Q4:
#Atchat
Many use the SETT process. What is working with this framework?
https://t.co/n8eLfkzWBE
RMJBaz
Oct 26 @ 8:28 PM EDT
making AT accessible to ALL students and use as a preventative approach in gen ed rather than waiting for kids' IEPs
#atudl16
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A4 - it's an excellent tool to guide the assessment process, to then make recommendations.
#ATchat
lrdichiara
Oct 26 @ 8:28 PM EDT
@KarenJan
Reply con't: More AT specialists=more time spent turnkeying this knowledge and training the Ts and even more so the paras!
#atchat
Parker52315
Oct 26 @ 8:29 PM EDT
#atchat
#atudl16
As I said before, UDL is for all students, Teachers need training and to see the possibilities available to them
mpdoty
Oct 26 @ 8:29 PM EDT
@mmatp
I like that
#atchat
possbeth
Oct 26 @ 8:29 PM EDT
@KelbRiechers
@eyeonaxs
doing a 2 day pre-con on the topic of presuming competence (and more) at
#ATIA16
https://t.co/jXitwjSeKB
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:29 PM EDT
@bcdtech
I am currently yelling it out my hotel room window :)
#Atchat
rtopp
Oct 26 @ 8:29 PM EDT
A4 get the bigger picture.
#atchat
alysstets
Oct 26 @ 8:29 PM EDT
A4---broadens our scope to make decisions affecting the student globally...not just one subject, skill, etc.
#ATchat
wernedat
Oct 26 @ 8:29 PM EDT
A4: refocus on Ss first; our screen doc helps walk through process on their own and look at E and T and Tools support from district
#atchat
MaegeK
Oct 26 @ 8:29 PM EDT
Q4: I think SETT works great when utilized. I think the problem occurs when people look to prove a student needs the app they like!
#ATchat
JudithSchoonov1
Oct 26 @ 8:30 PM EDT
@jul13tourney
Got any ideas on how to make that happen? It does in some places, but not enough
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:30 PM EDT
I call it SETT + TT process,Student, Environment, Tasks, Tools+ TRAINING and TRIALS. Need the last 2 Ts for effective implementation
#ATchat
atslp_jan
Oct 26 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A4: Helps to organize the process.
#atchat
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:30 PM EDT
@mmatp
thanks! Someone blocked the website we use for blogs,tech tuesday, and oh- 2 4th grade classes doing a digital breakout. :0)
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Going to
#atia17
? Join us for
@edcampaccessint
Fri night 1/20/17
https://t.co/DOerIDEEVJ
#ATchat
wernedat
Oct 26 @ 8:31 PM EDT
A3 - agreed on IT/AT-we've been moving in that way with much good-lots of wooing and rlshp building on my part over yrs to get there
#atchat
lrdichiara
Oct 26 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@alysstets
Amazing! Wish I could do it more often. I trust the Ts & teams working w/ the Ss. They come to me if adjusments r needed
#atchat
PattyATP
Oct 26 @ 8:31 PM EDT
A3: cont 2 work to educ @ UDL & build collab w gen ed
#ATchat
@KarenJan
carson_bug
Oct 26 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@RMJBaz
love that concept. Talked to two teachers today about Read & Write for all their students; didn't agree Chris B
#atchat
#atudl16
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@PattyATP
Are you making a difference?
#ATchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@MaegeK
When that happens we must refocus that team member to the process. This ensures effective match to Ss needs
#Atchat
possbeth
Oct 26 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@KarenJan
SETT needs to be cyclical--adding in the training and trials helps make it that way
#atchat
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:32 PM EDT
@carson_bug
@RMJBaz
Why didn't they agree?
#atchat
rtopp
Oct 26 @ 8:32 PM EDT
@wernedat
#atchat
can you share your screen doc?
carson_bug
Oct 26 @ 8:32 PM EDT
@Parker52315
Yes teacher training. That's something that can't start fast enough.
#atchat
#atudl16
Parker52315
Oct 26 @ 8:33 PM EDT
#atudl16
#atchat
I've recently been training several paras to help implement AT in the reg ed classrooms.Teachers are very receptive so far
wernedat
Oct 26 @ 8:33 PM EDT
@KarenJan
love this - can we update a flowchart from Joy to show this?!?!?
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Yes. We need to determine, does the AT make a difference? Ongoing assessment.
#ATchat
@possbeth
https://t.co/ySQfLbAuY0
possbeth
Oct 26 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@KarenJan
SETT needs to be cyclical--adding in the training and trials helps make it that way
#atchat
VickiBostonSLP
Oct 26 @ 8:33 PM EDT
A4: I love SETT except it was less useful in self contained classrooms with low expectations b/c everything was already so modified
#atchat
possbeth
Oct 26 @ 8:33 PM EDT
@mmatp
@edcampAccessInt
I am registered!
#atchat
lrdichiara
Oct 26 @ 8:33 PM EDT
A4: The SETT framework helps target the rt tech to meet Ss needs . I agree w/
@KarenJan
that Training should b added in there too!!!
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:33 PM EDT
@wernedat
Absolutely! Can't do SETT well without + TT!
#ATchat
https://t.co/N691VsuAAE
wernedat
Oct 26 @ 8:33 PM EDT
@KarenJan
love this - can we update a flowchart from Joy to show this?!?!?
#atchat
lrdichiara
Oct 26 @ 8:34 PM EDT
@alysstets
One person at a time!
#atchat
!
wernedat
Oct 26 @ 8:34 PM EDT
@possbeth
@mmatp
@edcampAccessInt
me too!
#atchat
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:34 PM EDT
@Parker52315
I find most Ts to be receptive to paras doing UDL... wish they would just incorporate UDL in all teaching
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:34 PM EDT
@possbeth
@edcampAccessInt
great news! It will be bigger and better this year. Gotta keep spreading the word
#Atchat
mpdoty
Oct 26 @ 8:34 PM EDT
@lrdichiara
@KarenJan
Our team has started to use SETT
#atchat
alysstets
Oct 26 @ 8:34 PM EDT
#ATIA2017
#ATchat
https://t.co/UVCBiNXjaO
possbeth
Oct 26 @ 8:34 PM EDT
@VickiBostonSLP
low expectations are really the issue
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Q5: Do your teams have any struggles with the SETT process? If so, what are they?
#ATchat
carson_bug
Oct 26 @ 8:35 PM EDT
@Parker52315
2 students in that class with IEPs will start using read & write & hopefully will be more motivated to write
#atchat
#atudl16
PattyATP
Oct 26 @ 8:35 PM EDT
@KarenJan
it's a slow but steady move forward. Hv district tools but gen ed reps voicd concern that Ss may use em but can't on STAAR
#atchat
MaegeK
Oct 26 @ 8:35 PM EDT
@mmatp
Easier said then done, especially when that team member has a lot of clout, but little involvement in the day to day.
#ATchat
wernedat
Oct 26 @ 8:35 PM EDT
@VickiBostonSLP
even more impt here to be a convo starter on what is needed
#atchat
JudithSchoonov1
Oct 26 @ 8:35 PM EDT
@mmatp
A-4 Everything in theory. Time 2 collaborate can B challenge, + some feeling they have nothing to offer intimidated by "AT"
#ATchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:35 PM EDT
@MaegeK
understood. maybe try to find ways to insert the process while letting them feel like they are leading!
#ATchat
MaegeK
Oct 26 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Good Advice! Thanks!
#ATchat
https://t.co/oeVNsX38Uh
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:35 PM EDT
@MaegeK
understood. maybe try to find ways to insert the process while letting them feel like they are leading!
#ATchat
VickiBostonSLP
Oct 26 @ 8:36 PM EDT
@possbeth
yes, some training on presuming competence had to come before we could really delve further into SETT.
#atchat
LaurieGMcGowan
Oct 26 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A3. I started "Lunch w L". 20 min all staff. I show 1 new thing. Each class shares something. Discuss and next time how did it work
#ATchat
wernedat
Oct 26 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A5: ongoing assessment & maintaining after transitioning, grade 2 grade or between schools. I need system to inform new teams better
#atchat
lrdichiara
Oct 26 @ 8:37 PM EDT
@possbeth
@VickiBostonSLP
Expectations should never be low for any S. Ss always strive 2 do their best when you expect it from them!
#atchat
alysstets
Oct 26 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A5---most teams struggle with a consistent data collection process and analysis process. We created our own data tools/excel eval.
#ATchat
Parker52315
Oct 26 @ 8:37 PM EDT
#atudl16
#atchat
One issue we have is that our technology is unreliable. Several classrooms have chromebks, but can't connect to their wifi
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:37 PM EDT
@KarenJan
Shouting is OK. Love seeing UDL incorporated, and really wish all students were "our kids" and all Ts used UDL
#atchat
K_Gagnon6
Oct 26 @ 8:38 PM EDT
@LaurieGMcGowan
Great idea!
#atchat
#atudl16
VickiBostonSLP
Oct 26 @ 8:38 PM EDT
@KarenJan
when dealing with teachers who didn't see strengths, had to do training before they could helpfully be part of the SETT
#atchat
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:38 PM EDT
@alysstets
Can you show us an example of that?
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:38 PM EDT
@Spedtechmia3
It's not stealing, it's sharing! Spread the word. :-)
#ATchat
https://t.co/gLCwSdocJU
Spedtechmia3
Oct 26 @ 8:38 PM EDT
@KarenJan
I LOVE THIS mind if I steal it?!?
eyeonaxs
Oct 26 @ 8:39 PM EDT
@LaurieGMcGowan
I used to do "Appy Hou". Sometimes informal is good, less threatening.
#atchat
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:39 PM EDT
@Parker52315
Know that feeling all too well. The infrastructure isn't keeping up... and/or the IT dept is overstretched
#atchat
Parker52315
Oct 26 @ 8:39 PM EDT
@mpdoty
@lrdichiara
@KarenJan
#atudl16
#atchat
That's great Mary!
mpdoty
Oct 26 @ 8:39 PM EDT
@bcdtech
I would love this. All students need help in some area.
#atchat
adaptechcf
Oct 26 @ 8:40 PM EDT
@LaurieGMcGowan
great idea!
#atchat
kclarke5240
Oct 26 @ 8:40 PM EDT
A5- answering the questions with expectations of services, not truly looking at all pieces-only Ss and disability category
#atchat
lrdichiara
Oct 26 @ 8:40 PM EDT
@mpdoty
@KarenJan
That is fantastic! It's a great step in the right direction!
#atchat
VickiBostonSLP
Oct 26 @ 8:40 PM EDT
@KarenJan
I'm talking about classrooms where "students don't need to communicate- it's hard for them & we know what they need."
#atchat
MelissaDerrAT
Oct 26 @ 8:40 PM EDT
@alysstets
this is where I struggle, will you share your tools?
#atchat
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:41 PM EDT
@mpdoty
Getting the uPAR data makes a dif. Show admin that multiple means = higher reading comprehension. Data-driven
#atchat
Parker52315
Oct 26 @ 8:41 PM EDT
@bcdtech
#atudl16
#atchat
Yes! a bit of both I believe!
MelissaDerrAT
Oct 26 @ 8:41 PM EDT
@Parker52315
we have this problem too, I haven't found a good solution yet
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Q6:
#atchat
AT Trials-what works in terms of trials?
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Don't we have the best job? Our Assessment process identifies what can help Ss b successufl & independent!No other testing does that
#ATchat
Spedtechmia3
Oct 26 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Anyone have a good
#ocr
IOS app to recommend that will allow user to highlight word and passages and annotate?
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:42 PM EDT
@VickiBostonSLP
Yikes. You have your work cut out for you with that attitude from other professionals.
#ATchat
https://t.co/VClCQN9WmW
VickiBostonSLP
Oct 26 @ 8:40 PM EDT
@KarenJan
I'm talking about classrooms where "students don't need to communicate- it's hard for them & we know what they need."
#atchat
mpdoty
Oct 26 @ 8:43 PM EDT
@bcdtech
thanks for the advise. We have read 180 only for sped---I can collect data for few students.
#atchat
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:43 PM EDT
@Spedtechmia3
Does prizmo let you do that?
@KarenJan
will know
#atchat
EVteacherHES
Oct 26 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@bcdtech
Admin does love higher reading comp. Now I'm interested in revisiting the uPAR data and using it.
#atchat
joysped
Oct 26 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@mmatp
A6: Mike, are you asking about things we've tried?
#Atchat
lrdichiara
Oct 26 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@Spedtechmia3
Have you tried
@ClaroPDF
or SnapType Pro???
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@bcdtech
@Spedtechmia3
One option - Do the OCR with ReadIris and then bring into VoiceDream Reader for annotation and TTS.
#ATchat
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@mpdoty
When Mike get the uPAR trial for us... use it with a xsection- up to 30 kids and you will be amazed at data
#atchat
rtopp
Oct 26 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A6 give time. What's the students learning curve
#atchat
Sheilaw8
Oct 26 @ 8:45 PM EDT
I NEED the tech infrastructure to work reliably in all of the schools where I am in one day... is that too much too ask?
#atchat
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:46 PM EDT
@EVteacherHES
I think I shared it with you last spring.. if not, let me know and I can send the data to you.
#atchat
PattyATP
Oct 26 @ 8:46 PM EDT
@KarenJan
@bcdtech
@Parker52315
UDL can't b seen as a sped thing. Educ for all that it's gen ed too. Building bridges is hard.
#Atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:47 PM EDT
@alysstets
@VickiBostonSLP
You said it much better than I did. Well said.
#ATchat
#educationalmalpractice
https://t.co/nR2CDJuIXX
alysstets
Oct 26 @ 8:46 PM EDT
@KarenJan
@VickiBostonSLP
JAW DROPPED....communication is a right! Not a privilege .....grrrrrrr 😡
wernedat
Oct 26 @ 8:47 PM EDT
@KarenJan
@bcdtech
@Spedtechmia3
https://t.co/p9t4xpXQJu
switch accessible too... so depending on needs
#atchat
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:47 PM EDT
@KarenJan
@Spedtechmia3
@KarenJan
@Spedtechmia3
I love my i500 fuji scanner... and Voice Dream is the best !
#atchat
alysstets
Oct 26 @ 8:47 PM EDT
#atchat
https://t.co/j9c0piwCnG
alysstets
Oct 26 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@MelissaDerrAT
see reply to previous rqst. Then we aggregate the data in Excel...hope to market our agg template soon 😉
alysstets
Oct 26 @ 8:48 PM EDT
#ATCHAT
sorry...I missed the # in my reply
https://t.co/zaKEaC09lF
alysstets
Oct 26 @ 8:42 PM EDT
@bcdtech
this is our template...we adapt based on purpose; @ hs level we break down by periods
https://t.co/oohBSYvqV1
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:48 PM EDT
@Sheilaw8
yup... You must be hanging out in my school too much
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:48 PM EDT
@erinngilmore_
How do you answer? That is such an excellent question from your Ss and one I wonder ALL the time.
#ATChat
EVteacherHES
Oct 26 @ 8:48 PM EDT
@mmatp
A6 I am in the midst of my first AT Trial,let's discuss this-what works? I need some help (and so not only depend on Maureen!)
#atchat
mpdoty
Oct 26 @ 8:48 PM EDT
@bcdtech
limited on devices --our equipment is old, not reliable, I have the 2 devices from class and two computers in my room
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:49 PM EDT
Q7: IDEA describes AT consideration. What can we do to strengthen this language?
https://t.co/AcJGeusLBz
, (last point).
#ATchat
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:49 PM EDT
@alysstets
Thanks!
#atchat
VickiBostonSLP
Oct 26 @ 8:49 PM EDT
@KarenJan
@alysstets
in their defense they think they're helping their students. Take deep breaths, stay calm & educate.
#atchat
Parker52315
Oct 26 @ 8:50 PM EDT
@mmatp
#atudl16
#atchat
Trials work best when implemented by Sped tchr and para, otherwise usage/follow through is inconsistent
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:51 PM EDT
Don’t forget-we are always looking for guest moderators. Fill out the form:
https://t.co/wUQEjE6Lej
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:51 PM EDT
Q7 Sorry the other AT Consideration link didn't work. Let's try this one -
https://t.co/lebWaUc6ED
#ATchat
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:51 PM EDT
@mpdoty
Can't snag a cart or a lab for an hour or so? Our computers are older than the kids...wicked slow, but it worked.
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:51 PM EDT
Q7 IDEA says "(v) Consider whether the child needs assistive technology devices and services." Is that strong enough?
#ATchat
EVteacherHES
Oct 26 @ 8:52 PM EDT
@bcdtech
You showed it to me- now we have to use all the data you have. Takes time for us less techs to "get it" and use the AT help.
#atchat
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:52 PM EDT
@KarenJan
I think "consideration" needs to be considered.
#atchat
Get rid of checkbox for it.
@cheryloakes50
may have a form in ME
#atchat
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:52 PM EDT
@KarenJan
I think "consideration" needs to be considered.
#atchat
Get rid of checkbox for it.
@cheryloakes50
may have a form in ME
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:53 PM EDT
@Parker52315
Then we look at training needs of other team members to get them to the point where they can support trials
#Atchat
PattyATP
Oct 26 @ 8:53 PM EDT
@alysstets
@KarenJan
@VickiBostonSLP
and to add on to that- it's for more than expressing needs & wants. How about for ideas/thgts?
#atchat
alysstets
Oct 26 @ 8:53 PM EDT
Q7- "consideration" too vague...needs serious dialogue
#ATchat
alysstets
Oct 26 @ 8:54 PM EDT
@KarenJan
#atchat
. No!!!! I think "consideration" is "lazy" vague language.
lrdichiara
Oct 26 @ 8:54 PM EDT
@KarenJan
A7: It feels like an afterthought.."If all else fails maybe look at AT" lol! I don't know where to begin to reword this!
#atchat
mpdoty
Oct 26 @ 8:54 PM EDT
@bcdtech
I will work on that
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:54 PM EDT
@alysstets
Can you think of another verb to describe what the team needs to do?
#ATchat
https://t.co/LJW0A2DPzE
alysstets
Oct 26 @ 8:53 PM EDT
Q7- "consideration" too vague...needs serious dialogue
#ATchat
wernedat
Oct 26 @ 8:55 PM EDT
A7: our online IEP has link to the consideration doc but it's still an area that needs training so they don't just ✓ the box. ideas?
#atchat
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:55 PM EDT
@KarenJan
@cheryloakes50
For some reason I think Cheryl had a good form... maybe she can chime in.
#atchat
kclarke5240
Oct 26 @ 8:55 PM EDT
A7- means different things to different TECs. It would be nice to have consistency across the district and the state
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:55 PM EDT
good point. highlight ways the tech can increase student success
#Atchat
https://t.co/0AD0lqg0a2
Sheilaw8
Oct 26 @ 8:54 PM EDT
@Parker52315
@mmatp
yes, training is key and showing how useful the technology is , also key
EVteacherHES
Oct 26 @ 8:55 PM EDT
@bcdtech
See Maureen, we are not alone.....
#atchat
lrdichiara
Oct 26 @ 8:56 PM EDT
@KarenJan
@bcdtech
@cheryloakes50
In NY, it's an IEP checkbox....doesn't ask for reasoning why. Not all Ss get AT for instruction
#atchat
bcdtech
Oct 26 @ 8:56 PM EDT
@KarenJan
@alysstets
Can there be a way to document what was considered?
#atchat
joysped
Oct 26 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Yikes!
#Atchat
alysstets
Oct 26 @ 8:56 PM EDT
@KarenJan
#atchat
I don't have a good word... I've been stumped on that for awhile in other dialogues
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:57 PM EDT
Did you miss something tonight? Don’t worry-we will post the Storify from tonight’s
#ATchat
tomorrow morning
lrdichiara
Oct 26 @ 8:57 PM EDT
@KarenJan
@kclarke5240
Can you expand on this??
#ATchat
MelissaDerrAT
Oct 26 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A7: could be argued all IEP Ss could benefit from AT, having AT be a whole section on the IEP-maybe draw from SETT framework?
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 26 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Make sure to follow everyone from today’s
#atchat
Let’s continue to learn and share!
alysstets
Oct 26 @ 8:58 PM EDT
@bcdtech
@KarenJan
we do thorough doc in present levels, create pro/con spreads, and compare data aggregations.Tons of docu.
#atchat
pbuckingks
Oct 26 @ 8:58 PM EDT
@KarenJan
school based teams lead by SLP with AT Facilitator support as needed. Works well because of buy in by those doing work.
#atchat