#ASEchat Archive
The Association for Science Education (ASE) promotes excellence in science teaching and learning. Follow #ASEchat Mondays at 3pm ET.
Monday February 20, 2017
3:00 PM EST
participatechat
Feb 20 @ 3:00 PM EST
Participate in the upcoming
#ASEchat
by sharing resources and collaborating at
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HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:00 PM EST
Good evening and welcome to tonight’s
#ASEchat
- all about practical work & demos in preparation for
#DemoDay17
on 16th March!
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:00 PM EST
1. Our first question for
#ASEchat
tonight: What is the purpose of a demo?
#Demoday17
RoySocChem
Feb 20 @ 3:01 PM EST
Get some ideas for
@ScienceWeekUK
on
#ASEchat
now with Carole Kenrick
@Lab_13Gillespie
#DemoDay
https://t.co/Gdg2g9m56u
In reply to @ScienceWeekUK, @Lab_13Gillespie
ScienceWeekUK
Feb 20 @ 3:01 PM EST
Join in the discussion - starting now
#ASEchat
#DemoDay17
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:00 PM EST
Good evening and welcome to tonight’s
#ASEchat
- all about practical work & demos in preparation for
#DemoDay17
on 16th March!
ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:02 PM EST
It can help to fix pupils attention on important aspects of what is seen
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
teacherchalky1
Feb 20 @ 3:03 PM EST
A1 to get Ss interested in the content, especially if a class prac isn't possible
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In reply to @HelpfulScience
ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:03 PM EST
Doing it themselves leads to focus on the what and how rather than the why
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:03 PM EST
Would you say this is different from what pupils focus on when carrying out practical work themselves?
#ASEChat
In reply to @ViciaScience
dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:03 PM EST
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Allows demonstration of key concepts without all the intrinsic cognitive load for pupils of following recipes!
In reply to @HelpfulScience
sarahpurplee
Feb 20 @ 3:03 PM EST
Lots of reasons
#ASEChat
to engage, excite, teach, create questions, promote science, for fun
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:00 PM EST
1. Our first question for
#ASEchat
tonight: What is the purpose of a demo?
#Demoday17
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Feb 20 @ 3:04 PM EST
Come and join
@HelpfulScience
hosting
#asechat
#demoday17
(evening, hope all is good with you Carole)
In reply to @HelpfulScience
phizlab_SSP
Feb 20 @ 3:04 PM EST
Demos to engage, to encourage curiosity, to promote discussion, to develop questioning and to support explanations
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:04 PM EST
so do you use demos primarily as a starting point or hook?
#ASEChat
In reply to @teacherchalky1
theASE
- Moderator
Feb 20 @ 3:04 PM EST
Join special guest host
#helpfulscience
for
#ASEchat
now on
#DemoDay17
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:00 PM EST
Good evening and welcome to tonight’s
#ASEchat
- all about practical work & demos in preparation for
#DemoDay17
on 16th March!
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:05 PM EST
Really important point - how else can you avoid cognitive overload?
#ASEChat
dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:03 PM EST
#asechat
Allows demonstration of key concepts without all the intrinsic cognitive load for pupils of following recipes!
In reply to @HelpfulScience
ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:05 PM EST
Absolutely from my experience. In group prac work discussions focus on who is doing what, not scientific principles
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
mrsjmclark
Feb 20 @ 3:05 PM EST
Another amazing
#TakeawayHwk
submission from a year 11 pupil - thank you
@TeacherToolkit
for the inspiration
#ASEChat
#scichat
dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:05 PM EST
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ensure they have sufficient learning prior to be able to interpret what they are seeing.
In reply to @HelpfulScience
teacherchalky1
Feb 20 @ 3:06 PM EST
It can be easier to focus then on a particular aspect using a demo esp when pracs can go wrong easily
#asechat
In reply to @HelpfulScience, @ViciaScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:06 PM EST
Anyone else recognise this challenge - and found ways of making group practical work work?!
#ASEChat
ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:05 PM EST
Absolutely from my experience. In group prac work discussions focus on who is doing what, not scientific principles
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
fiddleBrain
Feb 20 @ 3:07 PM EST
IMHO, a great
#scicomm
demo's a hook for attention/violates expectations & sparks followup understanding of underlying principles
#ASEChat
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:00 PM EST
1. Our first question for
#ASEchat
tonight: What is the purpose of a demo?
#Demoday17
dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:07 PM EST
#asechat
always need to be mindful they aren't expert yet and think about how they will be interpreting their observations.
In reply to @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:07 PM EST
indeed - and so many things to think about esp if unfamiliar technique / equipment etc
#ASEChat
In reply to @teacherchalky1, @ViciaScience
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Feb 20 @ 3:07 PM EST
Demos can be used, when students do not have the manipulative skills..
#ASEChat
doc_kristy
Feb 20 @ 3:07 PM EST
@HelpfulScience
on my way back from Zumba, will catch up in 15...
#asechat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
phizlab_SSP
Feb 20 @ 3:07 PM EST
#ASEChat
Children leading demos really supports their explaination skills - we have pupils doing this with Gopher labs
@RoyalSocBio
In reply to @RoyalSocBio
mrsjmclark
Feb 20 @ 3:07 PM EST
to inspire pupils and demonstrate concepts
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:08 PM EST
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cognitive dissonance is useful but not if it embeds misconceptions. Can rather defeat the point of the demo!
In reply to @HelpfulScience
teacherchalky1
Feb 20 @ 3:08 PM EST
I think it depends on the lesson as to where to fit them in
#asechat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:08 PM EST
Q2: How can we ensure pupils learn from demos?
#ASEChat
#DemoDay17
FarmStokehill
Feb 20 @ 3:08 PM EST
#ASEchat
Q1To communicate knowledge or skills when a demo is the best or only way to do this. Many reasons why 'best' or 'only'-see one e.g.
ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:09 PM EST
And of course, nothing replaces experience if learning how to use specific equipment
#ASEChat
In reply to @teacherchalky1, @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:09 PM EST
teacher expertise key - I find cognitive dissonance v powerful when used carefully! Element of surprise makes them think
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In reply to @dave2004b
dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:09 PM EST
#asechat
Q2: give them opportunities to discuss and dissect their observations, then create some article exemplifying their new learning.
massignmenthelp
Feb 20 @ 3:10 PM EST
#asechat
Should the toughest kids be assigned to the best teachers?
https://t.co/3NhTh5TF87
AssignmentHelpN
Feb 20 @ 3:10 PM EST
#asechat
10 Simple Ways to Use Pinterest For Classroom Teaching
https://t.co/0i2sbvZqo7
SarahBearchell
Feb 20 @ 3:10 PM EST
#ASEChat
Year 6 Science Club uses science busking to demonstrate ideas to younger pupils. Some great ideas in here:
https://t.co/yLUU4GnXiH
phizlab_SSP
Feb 20 @ 3:07 PM EST
#ASEChat
Children leading demos really supports their explaination skills - we have pupils doing this with Gopher labs
@RoyalSocBio
In reply to @RoyalSocBio
mrsjmclark
Feb 20 @ 3:10 PM EST
specific and directed questioning. Plus trialling the demonstration before if it is new to teacher demonstrating
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:10 PM EST
Also depends on the demo I suppose - conceptual difficulty etc
#ASEchat
In reply to @teacherchalky1
dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:10 PM EST
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and the all important mental hook. Makes it easier for them to visualise the learning in the future.
In reply to @HelpfulScience
fiddleBrain
Feb 20 @ 3:11 PM EST
..& What is a bad
#scicomm
demo? Too often you get bangs, pops & fizzes with no substance or attempt of explanation, just a gimmick
#ASEChat
ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:11 PM EST
1. Rehearse the demo before lesson. 2. Rehearse the dialogue that accompanies the demo
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:11 PM EST
Found this a paradigm shifter when I started teaching!
#ASEChat
Christophinoff
Feb 20 @ 3:09 PM EST
@theASE
preassign roles. Collector, measurer, recorder, safety man...
In reply to @HelpfulScience, @theASE
teacherchalky1
Feb 20 @ 3:11 PM EST
With some demos you need to go through the content needed for Ss to understand what they're watching
#asechat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:11 PM EST
Absolutely - key not to try to do everything at once!
#ASEChat
In reply to @NuttySalt, @ViciaScience
ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:11 PM EST
These are closely linked surely?
#ASEChat
In reply to @NuttySalt, @HelpfulScience
LessonToolbox
Feb 20 @ 3:12 PM EST
#Physics
joke...
#asechat
#ukedchat
#aussieEd
perryscience
Feb 20 @ 3:12 PM EST
I used to work at
@RoyalSocBio
and always thought the Gopher Lab activities were brilliant
#ASEchat
In reply to @phizlab_SSP, @RoyalSocBio, @RoyalSocBio
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:12 PM EST
Growing neural connections & helping them form strong memories : )
#ASEChat
dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:10 PM EST
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and the all important mental hook. Makes it easier for them to visualise the learning in the future.
In reply to @HelpfulScience
phizlab_SSP
Feb 20 @ 3:12 PM EST
also plan questions in advance to encourage pupils to analyse what they are observing
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In reply to @ViciaScience, @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:12 PM EST
Message = rehearse, rehearse, rehearse!
#ASEchat
ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:11 PM EST
1. Rehearse the demo before lesson. 2. Rehearse the dialogue that accompanies the demo
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
SarahBearchell
Feb 20 @ 3:12 PM EST
Very important!
#ASEChat
ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:11 PM EST
1. Rehearse the demo before lesson. 2. Rehearse the dialogue that accompanies the demo
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
teacherchalky1
Feb 20 @ 3:12 PM EST
Ie. before showing group 1 metals I like students to know enough to explain whats going on
#asechat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
perryscience
Feb 20 @ 3:13 PM EST
Ahh too cute!
#ASEchat
In reply to @FarmStokehill
twinklresources
Feb 20 @ 3:13 PM EST
useful to model how to use equipment in KS2 and KS1 . videos good for things we can't do
#ASEChat
In reply to @fiddleBrain
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:13 PM EST
Preparation = key to make the most of demos and practical work!
#ASEchat
phizlab_SSP
Feb 20 @ 3:12 PM EST
also plan questions in advance to encourage pupils to analyse what they are observing
#asechat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @HelpfulScience
dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:14 PM EST
#asechat
@teacherchalky1
@HelpfulScience
as long as not all introduced at once of course
https://t.co/7WkRqAmWp4
In reply to @ViciaScience, @teacherchalky1, @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:14 PM EST
Q3: Is audience interaction important or necessary?
#ASEChat
#DemoDay17
phizlab_SSP
Feb 20 @ 3:14 PM EST
Great for demo day
#ASEChat
In reply to @perryscience, @RoyalSocBio
Lorrainef007
Feb 20 @ 3:15 PM EST
As a tech, I think technician supported demos can enhance t&l by allowing teachers to focus on the students as the demo happens
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HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:15 PM EST
Unless you want it to spark questions?
#ASEChat
In reply to @teacherchalky1, @ViciaScience
teacherchalky1
Feb 20 @ 3:16 PM EST
Q3 I think good questioning is always needed as it helps promote progress
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In reply to @HelpfulScience
SarahBearchell
Feb 20 @ 3:16 PM EST
#ASEChat
I always enlist a helper, often to actually do the demo or key step. Esp good for "intestine" squeezing.
#primary
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:14 PM EST
Q3: Is audience interaction important or necessary?
#ASEChat
#DemoDay17
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:16 PM EST
Ah yes - the classic Predict -> Observe -> Explain!
#ASEChat
Andrestrujado
Feb 20 @ 3:14 PM EST
ask if their predictions based on observations were correct. If not why not?
In reply to @HelpfulScience
priscigeeks
Feb 20 @ 3:17 PM EST
I always worry about demos at primary end up being more about watching someone who knows the answers. Is that me?
#asechat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:17 PM EST
#asechat
Good piece in the TES by Benjamin Davey this week on practising the teacher talk before the lesson.
In reply to @ViciaScience, @HelpfulScience
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Feb 20 @ 3:17 PM EST
See this Nat Strats booklet about Effective Demos
https://t.co/CxrPNx8KBO
check out the diff between Performance/Spontaneous
#asechat
fiddleBrain
Feb 20 @ 3:17 PM EST
Explain the demo & refer back to it. If possible, let young people change variables in the demo to test understanding!
#ASEChat
#DemoDay17
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:08 PM EST
Q2: How can we ensure pupils learn from demos?
#ASEChat
#DemoDay17
tonicha128
Feb 20 @ 3:17 PM EST
Agree. think about the questions to ask before hand so you get the dialogue right
#ASEChat
In reply to @phizlab_SSP, @ViciaScience, @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:17 PM EST
I see lots of brilliant practice re developing group / pair work & social skills in primary - modelling, success criteria etc.
#ASEchat
edujdw
Feb 20 @ 3:16 PM EST
to get the best out of group work, pupils must be taught how to work in groups it's not innate or natural.
@HelpfulScience
In reply to @ViciaScience, @HelpfulScience
allchet94
Feb 20 @ 3:18 PM EST
I think questioning certain pupils in a demo can be powerful, particularly for behaviour management
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:18 PM EST
What do you mean by good questioning?
#ASEChat
In reply to @teacherchalky1
ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:18 PM EST
I see very little investigation work in school that sets out to confirm negative hypothesis
#ASEChat
In reply to @NuttySalt, @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:18 PM EST
Anyone else use helpers, or have unusual / different approaches to demos? I’m a fan of silent demos for instance!
#ASEchat
SarahBearchell
Feb 20 @ 3:16 PM EST
#ASEChat
I always enlist a helper, often to actually do the demo or key step. Esp good for "intestine" squeezing.
#primary
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:14 PM EST
Q3: Is audience interaction important or necessary?
#ASEChat
#DemoDay17
mrsjmclark
Feb 20 @ 3:18 PM EST
I think so too.It depends though-eg.If sci day &lots of demos to inspire pupils maybe not as many Q
#ASEChat
In reply to @teacherchalky1, @HelpfulScience
twinklresources
Feb 20 @ 3:18 PM EST
we often do practicals twice- first time make mistakes, second to focus on how to improve- works well with my y6s
#asechat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Feb 20 @ 3:18 PM EST
unless its spontaneous..
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
teacherchalky1
Feb 20 @ 3:18 PM EST
Questioning that can be used to stretch students understanding
#asechat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
stevethedoc1
Feb 20 @ 3:19 PM EST
#asechat
agreed to often about an entertaining show limited focus by visitor on learning
In reply to @priscigeeks, @HelpfulScience
ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:19 PM EST
Absolutely. And eye needs to be kept on those who want to do but not to think
#ASEchat
edujdw
Feb 20 @ 3:16 PM EST
to get the best out of group work, pupils must be taught how to work in groups it's not innate or natural.
@HelpfulScience
In reply to @ViciaScience, @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:19 PM EST
have you watched
@alomshaha
’s film about demos?
https://t.co/H5yr6uPChR
Has some suggestions for approaching them
#ASEChat
In reply to @priscigeeks, @alomshaha
priscigeeks
Feb 20 @ 3:20 PM EST
errrr yes! Otherwise what's the point? Can they think? That's not interacting but how do we know they've engaged?
#asechat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
ThorntonSciPark
Feb 20 @ 3:20 PM EST
"Tell me & I forget, show me & I may remember, involve me & I understand" We offer practical, hands on work experience for students
#ASEChat
mrsjmclark
Feb 20 @ 3:20 PM EST
I often ask pupils to help with parts of demos (if safe!) or can recruit a helpful technician to help
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
LessonToolbox
Feb 20 @ 3:20 PM EST
Learning progression map for atomic structure lesson. Editable dwnld
https://t.co/zR44m47K4l
#asechat
#satchat
#ukedchat
stevethedoc1
Feb 20 @ 3:20 PM EST
#asechat
correct requires rehearsal before 'show' try colleagues as audience, look for feedback
In reply to @dave2004b, @ViciaScience, @HelpfulScience
ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:20 PM EST
Dialogic teaching does not get the exposure it deserves in my view
#ASEChat
In reply to @dave2004b, @HelpfulScience
SarahBearchell
Feb 20 @ 3:20 PM EST
#ASEChat
It is a fine line to tread. It helps to anticipate their qs and bring extra kit to test them
priscigeeks
Feb 20 @ 3:17 PM EST
I always worry about demos at primary end up being more about watching someone who knows the answers. Is that me?
#asechat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
ScienceWeekUK
Feb 20 @ 3:21 PM EST
Don't forget to pledge your demo for
#DemoDay17
https://t.co/pwygsIt84G
#asechat
MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:21 PM EST
I think
@hrogerson
would recommend filming yourself
#ASEChat
In reply to @stevethedoc1, @dave2004b, @ViciaScience, @HelpfulScience, @hrogerson
ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:21 PM EST
And I always found it hard to distinguish between this thinking about their work, and those looking 'busy'
#ASEChat
edujdw
Feb 20 @ 3:20 PM EST
yes, some see being 'busy' as working hard, though the brain may not be engaged!
In reply to @ViciaScience
dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:22 PM EST
#asechat
I see it develop over time with teacher confidence. Having taught it a few times you have better 1/2
In reply to @ViciaScience, @HelpfulScience
MrsSuperSTEM
Feb 20 @ 3:22 PM EST
Observed an NQT with a silent demo, could have heard a pin drop. Questioning with no words; was excellent to see!
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:22 PM EST
A range of purposes for demos!
#ASEChat
mrsjmclark
Feb 20 @ 3:18 PM EST
I think so too.It depends though-eg.If sci day &lots of demos to inspire pupils maybe not as many Q
#ASEChat
In reply to @teacherchalky1, @HelpfulScience
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Feb 20 @ 3:22 PM EST
silent demo, with student narrating, or asking the sort of questions you might ask as a teacher
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:22 PM EST
#asechat
idea of where the segues can take you, which to close off and which to explore 2/2
In reply to @ViciaScience, @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:23 PM EST
I am a big believer in cross-phase collaboration - I used to be a phys teacher, now in primary. So much to learn from each other!
#ASEchat
edujdw
Feb 20 @ 3:19 PM EST
good, I've seen much less in secondary more an 'assumption' they know how to work in groups.
In reply to @HelpfulScience
priscigeeks
Feb 20 @ 3:24 PM EST
but how can you anticipate qus on something they haven't seen? Hmm jury's out for me
@HelpfulScience
#ASEChat
In reply to @SarahBearchell, @HelpfulScience
ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:24 PM EST
Also needs teachers who recognise different ways pupils think, and who are not risk averse. Subject knowledge vital
#ASEChat
dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:22 PM EST
#asechat
I see it develop over time with teacher confidence. Having taught it a few times you have better 1/2
In reply to @ViciaScience, @HelpfulScience
tonicha128
Feb 20 @ 3:24 PM EST
how did they follow this up after the demo
#ASEChat
In reply to @MrsSuperSTEM, @HelpfulScience
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Feb 20 @ 3:24 PM EST
I hate seeing demos done on a cluttered bench/table. Get rid of all the distractors
#focus
#asechat
(tidy up?)
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:25 PM EST
Oh interesting - I once recorded a song I made up about suvat but not recorded demos before! Will try it… Any tips?
#ASEchat
MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:21 PM EST
I think
@hrogerson
would recommend filming yourself
#ASEChat
In reply to @stevethedoc1, @dave2004b, @ViciaScience, @HelpfulScience, @hrogerson
dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:25 PM EST
#asechat
Back to pedagogical content knowledge - so much to learn just from talking to the more experienced teachers and TECHS
In reply to @ViciaScience
priscigeeks
Feb 20 @ 3:25 PM EST
yep agree, hence is demo the best model with younger learners as a go to? Small gps exploring?
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
mrsjmclark
Feb 20 @ 3:26 PM EST
how do you set up a silent demo?Say pupils aren't allowed to ask Qs/write Qs on whiteboards?how do you follow up?
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
priscigeeks
Feb 20 @ 3:26 PM EST
or is a demo a good starting point? Doh, hurty brain!
#asechat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
stevethedoc1
Feb 20 @ 3:26 PM EST
#asechat
have you seen it, what would you ask? Be a kid again or still
In reply to @priscigeeks, @SarahBearchell, @HelpfulScience
MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:26 PM EST
Clip your recording device (phone/tablet) at the right angle using a clamp stand.
#asechat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
SarahBearchell
Feb 20 @ 3:26 PM EST
#ASEChat
If it's a clanging cooling rack for sound travelling through solids/air, they are going to ask about other objects - try a slinky!
priscigeeks
Feb 20 @ 3:24 PM EST
but how can you anticipate qus on something they haven't seen? Hmm jury's out for me
@HelpfulScience
#ASEChat
In reply to @SarahBearchell, @HelpfulScience
MrsSuperSTEM
Feb 20 @ 3:26 PM EST
The most impressive part was the S's really having to think about the silent questions
#ASEChat
In reply to @tonicha128, @HelpfulScience
MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:27 PM EST
And I always make sure my head is out of frame!
#camerashy
#asechat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:27 PM EST
Q4: How can teachers improve their demo "performance”?
#ASEchat
#DemoDay17
priscigeeks
Feb 20 @ 3:27 PM EST
yep but most of the ideas I come up with ch always have better ones!
#asechat
In reply to @stevethedoc1, @SarahBearchell, @HelpfulScience
Andrestrujado
Feb 20 @ 3:27 PM EST
practice practice and more practice
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
allchet94
Feb 20 @ 3:28 PM EST
as an NQT I'm aware that demos and general expl. of pracs is my weakest area! Trying hard to improve! 👍🏼
#ASEChat
In reply to @dave2004b, @ViciaScience
priscigeeks
Feb 20 @ 3:28 PM EST
yep! And wouldn't want to either! Love that bit, Children are a joy!
#asechat
In reply to @HelpfulScience, @SarahBearchell
ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:28 PM EST
Can improve performance by anticipating responses and having some extras to extend demo if necessary
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
sarahpurplee
Feb 20 @ 3:28 PM EST
#ASEChat
can't anticipate all but having a 'misconception' book is helpful
In reply to @stevethedoc1, @priscigeeks, @SarahBearchell, @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:29 PM EST
Tip for filming demos:
#ASEchat
MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:26 PM EST
Clip your recording device (phone/tablet) at the right angle using a clamp stand.
#asechat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:29 PM EST
#asechat
Practice make 'perfect'; watching more experienced people; look on youtube; write a script and have another follow.
In reply to @HelpfulScience
MrsSuperSTEM
Feb 20 @ 3:29 PM EST
practice, especially if at a new school. Demo you've done before but different equipment can cause you to flounder
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
JulieBrown01
Feb 20 @ 3:29 PM EST
I produced some videos of ' flash bang demos'when working for
@IChemE
#asechat
https://t.co/hQjxtWfA6n
to give teachers confidence
In reply to @IChemE
JulieBrown01
Feb 20 @ 3:29 PM EST
I produced some videos of ' flash bang demos'when working for
@IChemE
#asechat
https://t.co/MqmG2TuJOk
to give teachers confidence
In reply to @IChemE
stevethedoc1
Feb 20 @ 3:30 PM EST
#asechat
rehearse with as many different folk as possible, what/ how do they ask, experience it
In reply to @priscigeeks, @SarahBearchell, @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:30 PM EST
Absolutely - e.g.
https://t.co/v9tXV9yUUg
then add to it as you discover new ones!
#ASEchat
sarahpurplee
Feb 20 @ 3:28 PM EST
#ASEChat
can't anticipate all but having a 'misconception' book is helpful
In reply to @stevethedoc1, @priscigeeks, @SarahBearchell, @HelpfulScience
dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:30 PM EST
#asechat
some of the best use of your extra 'frees' this year. Keep your technicians on side as well!
In reply to @allchet94, @ViciaScience
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Feb 20 @ 3:30 PM EST
Its quite scary to be on ‘stage’ lots of opps for mistakes, develop some ‘patter’ ‘well done for spotting my deliberate mistake’
#asechat
allchet94
Feb 20 @ 3:28 PM EST
as an NQT I'm aware that demos and general expl. of pracs is my weakest area! Trying hard to improve! 👍🏼
#ASEChat
In reply to @dave2004b, @ViciaScience
mrsjmclark
Feb 20 @ 3:30 PM EST
practice,planning Qs to ask,asking colleagues how they carry out same demo,look on YouTube/twig for demos as well
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
stevethedoc1
Feb 20 @ 3:30 PM EST
#asechat
try small group sizes, informal opportunities i.e. While on train etc
In reply to @priscigeeks, @SarahBearchell, @HelpfulScience
MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:30 PM EST
I really think we don't give enough time to demos - I wish we had a "demo spot" at our dept meetings.
#asechat
In reply to @MrsSuperSTEM, @HelpfulScience
priscigeeks
Feb 20 @ 3:30 PM EST
I have a good one but hate overthinking takes the curiosity out for me
#ASEchat
In reply to @sarahpurplee, @stevethedoc1, @SarahBearchell, @HelpfulScience
SKLchem
Feb 20 @ 3:31 PM EST
@NeedhamL56
@ViciaScience
#asechat
not just more experienced... learn from all. My rqt is a former technician knows loads!
In reply to @dave2004b, @NeedhamL56, @ViciaScience
ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:31 PM EST
In some secondary schools can ask a technician or older pupil for help
#ASEChat
In reply to @stevethedoc1, @priscigeeks, @SarahBearchell, @HelpfulScience
allchet94
Feb 20 @ 3:31 PM EST
perfect over many years, by bugging techs and more experienced colleagues...especially if out of specialism!
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
SarahBearchell
Feb 20 @ 3:32 PM EST
#ASEChat
Practise, use an audience in the staff room or video yourself. Use clear table. Build focus with seating: horseshoe? All on floor?
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:27 PM EST
Q4: How can teachers improve their demo "performance”?
#ASEchat
#DemoDay17
theASE
- Moderator
Feb 20 @ 3:32 PM EST
make them magical!...or at least unexpected see
@NeilMonteiro
in
@RSC_EiC
#ASEchat
https://t.co/4k4tlyOZ5V
In reply to @HelpfulScience, @NeilMonteiro, @RSC_EiC
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:32 PM EST
Message: practice! Is this something teachers always have time to do…? How can subject leads facilitate this? Department meet time?
#ASEChat
mrsjmclark
Feb 20 @ 3:30 PM EST
practice,planning Qs to ask,asking colleagues how they carry out same demo,look on YouTube/twig for demos as well
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
MrsSuperSTEM
Feb 20 @ 3:32 PM EST
as a HOD, we always started with this sort of thing at dept meetings.
#ASEChat
In reply to @MrsDrSarah, @HelpfulScience
phizlab_SSP
Feb 20 @ 3:32 PM EST
@priscigeeks
#ASEChat
I think a good demo can really help launch pupil lead practical enquiry where they go on to plan how to explore Qu's
In reply to @priscigeeks
dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:32 PM EST
#asechat
push for some department CPD time on INSET days?
In reply to @MrsDrSarah, @MrsSuperSTEM, @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:33 PM EST
My first technician was my actual hero. Geoff was the best. I learnt so much from him!!
#ASEChat
ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:31 PM EST
In some secondary schools can ask a technician or older pupil for help
#ASEChat
In reply to @stevethedoc1, @priscigeeks, @SarahBearchell, @HelpfulScience
perryscience
Feb 20 @ 3:33 PM EST
“It's not what you say, it's how you say it!" Find top tips for presenting here:
https://t.co/akmke4Fu51
#ASEchat
#DemoDay17
In reply to @HelpfulScience
MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:33 PM EST
I had two of my A Level students come in to do heart dissection for Year 9s, they were brilliant.
#Asechat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @HelpfulScience
twinklresources
Feb 20 @ 3:33 PM EST
in primary, devote some staff mtg time to this to allow discussions! share ideas
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:33 PM EST
#asechat
sounds like experience to me!
In reply to @SKLchem, @NeedhamL56, @ViciaScience
SKLchem
Feb 20 @ 3:33 PM EST
@allchet94
@dave2004b
@ViciaScience
#asechat
rsc learn chem has some good videos of prac technique get students to script
In reply to @NeedhamL56, @allchet94, @dave2004b, @ViciaScience
ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:33 PM EST
But are demos as useful in biology as chem / phys?
#ASEChat
In reply to @MrsDrSarah, @MrsSuperSTEM, @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:33 PM EST
Ooh yes - peer teaching!
#ASEChat
MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:33 PM EST
I had two of my A Level students come in to do heart dissection for Year 9s, they were brilliant.
#Asechat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @HelpfulScience
FarmStokehill
Feb 20 @ 3:33 PM EST
#ASEchat
Q4 Keep everyone tightly focused. Continual questions - 'why did I do that? What should I do next? What do you think will happen?
MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:34 PM EST
Always, but where do demos go on the priorities scale?
#ASEChat
In reply to @dave2004b, @MrsSuperSTEM, @HelpfulScience
ScienceWeekUK
Feb 20 @ 3:34 PM EST
Great, insightful
#asechat
about science demos right now. Pledge your demo for
#BSW17
& make it the best year yet!
https://t.co/pwygsIt84G
edubabbIe
Feb 20 @ 3:34 PM EST
We employed a variety of disciplines and pursue them later in this way are assessed there too.
#asechat
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Feb 20 @ 3:34 PM EST
This is definitely from a performance angle, building some tension etc. need to be confident to play the audience like Neil
#asechat
theASE
- Moderator
Feb 20 @ 3:32 PM EST
make them magical!...or at least unexpected see
@NeilMonteiro
in
@RSC_EiC
#ASEchat
https://t.co/4k4tlyOZ5V
In reply to @HelpfulScience, @NeilMonteiro, @RSC_EiC
phizlab_SSP
Feb 20 @ 3:34 PM EST
Also adding comedy and suspense can really help make learning memorable
#asechat
In reply to @theASE, @HelpfulScience, @NeilMonteiro, @RSC_EiC
whitebug16
Feb 20 @ 3:35 PM EST
#asechat
as phys teaching bio/chem being able to observe demo in dept meeting would be awesome . sharing good practice
In reply to @ViciaScience
MrsSuperSTEM
Feb 20 @ 3:35 PM EST
modelling digestive system? Does that count as a demo? Certainly engaging!
#ASEChat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @MrsDrSarah, @HelpfulScience
MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:35 PM EST
Depends on the demo - some have great impact, but do they add to learning?
#ASEChat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @MrsSuperSTEM, @HelpfulScience
priscigeeks
Feb 20 @ 3:35 PM EST
yep I know but they just make me nervous as a go to for some as replacement for Ch doing own enquiry
#asechat
@HelpfulScience
In reply to @phizlab_SSP, @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:35 PM EST
I use a *lot* of comedy and suspense. And a fair bit of silliness. Whilst being safe.
#ASEChat
phizlab_SSP
Feb 20 @ 3:34 PM EST
Also adding comedy and suspense can really help make learning memorable
#asechat
In reply to @theASE, @HelpfulScience, @NeilMonteiro, @RSC_EiC
whitebug16
Feb 20 @ 3:35 PM EST
#asechat
and you'd get to see how it's *really* done in class, not just talked through it in the prep room
In reply to @ViciaScience
dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:35 PM EST
#asechat
@lowlevelpanic
has some good ones as well
https://t.co/2JfAsKHam2
In reply to @SKLchem, @NeedhamL56, @allchet94, @ViciaScience, @lowlevelpanic
mrsjmclark
Feb 20 @ 3:35 PM EST
if I haven't done demo before I will request it for a free from technician.Would be good to use dept INSET time too
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:36 PM EST
Tights & Weetabix? I love it.
#lookslikepoo
#asechat
In reply to @MrsSuperSTEM
doc_kristy
Feb 20 @ 3:36 PM EST
nothing beats time spent with a more experienced colleague who has good patter +has learnt from their own mistakes
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
perryscience
Feb 20 @ 3:36 PM EST
As a former biology student, I'd say definitely yes! The practical work was always my favourite bit!
#ASEchat
In reply to @ViciaScience
MrsSuperSTEM
Feb 20 @ 3:36 PM EST
With a chocolate mini roll thrown in for good measure
#ASEChat
MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:36 PM EST
Tights & Weetabix? I love it.
#lookslikepoo
#asechat
In reply to @MrsSuperSTEM
dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:36 PM EST
#asechat
depends on the need of the individual teachers?
In reply to @MrsDrSarah, @MrsSuperSTEM, @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:36 PM EST
I did this as a v scaffolded class practical with Y2 - semi-demo! SO effective for learning. I used kitchen leftovers after lunch
#ASEChat
MrsSuperSTEM
Feb 20 @ 3:35 PM EST
modelling digestive system? Does that count as a demo? Certainly engaging!
#ASEChat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @MrsDrSarah, @HelpfulScience
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Feb 20 @ 3:36 PM EST
get someone to model the demo to staff, then you ask them to suggest sort of questions children might ask
@priscigeeks
#asechat
twinklresources
Feb 20 @ 3:33 PM EST
in primary, devote some staff mtg time to this to allow discussions! share ideas
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
stevethedoc1
Feb 20 @ 3:37 PM EST
#asechat
need to stress that this is not purpose of demo, see earlier tweets
In reply to @priscigeeks, @phizlab_SSP, @HelpfulScience
SKLchem
Feb 20 @ 3:37 PM EST
#Asechat
fabulous idea.... am still working on how to get my y10 to 'help' y13 with synthesis
In reply to @MrsDrSarah, @ViciaScience, @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:37 PM EST
Key question - do demos always have to lead to learning?
#ASEchat
MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:35 PM EST
Depends on the demo - some have great impact, but do they add to learning?
#ASEChat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @MrsSuperSTEM, @HelpfulScience
priscigeeks
Feb 20 @ 3:37 PM EST
#ASEchat
@HelpfulScience
just want to clarify, I'm not anti demo, just seen it done so badly in lots of primary
@ScienceWeekUK
In reply to @HelpfulScience, @ScienceWeekUK
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:37 PM EST
As with everything… I’d say it’s about finding the best tool for the purpose?
#ASEchat
priscigeeks
Feb 20 @ 3:35 PM EST
yep I know but they just make me nervous as a go to for some as replacement for Ch doing own enquiry
#asechat
@HelpfulScience
In reply to @phizlab_SSP, @HelpfulScience
MrsSuperSTEM
Feb 20 @ 3:38 PM EST
I still pick up new ideas by being shown demos from other teachers.
#ASEChat
In reply to @dave2004b, @MrsDrSarah, @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:38 PM EST
Q5: What good resources are out there for demos?
#ASEchat
#DemoDay17
whitebug16
Feb 20 @ 3:38 PM EST
#asechat
JulieBrown01
Feb 20 @ 3:37 PM EST
Or go to an
@theASE
Teachmeet there are often demos and they are always popular
In reply to @whitebug16, @ViciaScience, @theASE
priscigeeks
Feb 20 @ 3:38 PM EST
yep! Totally agree
#ASEchat
In reply to @stevethedoc1, @phizlab_SSP, @HelpfulScience
SarahBearchell
Feb 20 @ 3:39 PM EST
#ASEChat
You MUST include sweetcorn! And send a child home with a can of it to test transit time for themselves!
In reply to @MrsSuperSTEM
mrsjmclark
Feb 20 @ 3:39 PM EST
I think demos as useful in Biology. Even simple demos help to reinforce key concepts.
#ASEChat
In reply to @MrsDrSarah, @ViciaScience, @HelpfulScience
MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:39 PM EST
It was great - big issue with demos is students not being able to see the action.
#asechat
In reply to @SKLchem, @ViciaScience, @HelpfulScience
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Feb 20 @ 3:39 PM EST
That’s for the department to agree, discuss reasons why demo cf class prac not instead of
#ASEChat
then share
In reply to @MrsDrSarah, @dave2004b
allchet94
Feb 20 @ 3:39 PM EST
If it's memorable for them, through delivery, questioning, participation then they definitely learn! Also from teacher mistakes!
#ASEChat
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:37 PM EST
Key question - do demos always have to lead to learning?
#ASEchat
MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:35 PM EST
Depends on the demo - some have great impact, but do they add to learning?
#ASEChat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @MrsSuperSTEM, @HelpfulScience
sarahpurplee
Feb 20 @ 3:39 PM EST
@theASE
#ASEChat
@HelpfulScience
@NeilMonteiro
@RSC_EiC
PAul McRory at
@pstt_whyhow
Conf in Belfast gave some good tips on creating tension
In reply to @theASE, @HelpfulScience, @NeilMonteiro, @RSC_EiC, @pstt_whyhow
MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:39 PM EST
Having three demos and prep'd A Level students with questions to ask as they went along.
#asechat
In reply to @SKLchem, @ViciaScience, @HelpfulScience
dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:39 PM EST
#asechat
If we are expending our/technican/pupils times it should be fore some learning gain.
In reply to @HelpfulScience
DrDav
Feb 20 @ 3:39 PM EST
If we're spending precious class time on them, then one would expect them to lead to, or at least support, learning.
#asechat
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:37 PM EST
Key question - do demos always have to lead to learning?
#ASEchat
MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:35 PM EST
Depends on the demo - some have great impact, but do they add to learning?
#ASEChat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @MrsSuperSTEM, @HelpfulScience
perryscience
Feb 20 @ 3:39 PM EST
Gross but great...
#ASEchat
In reply to @SarahBearchell, @MrsSuperSTEM
doc_kristy
Feb 20 @ 3:40 PM EST
@RSC_EiC
has a regular column from
@declanfleming
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience, @RSC_EiC, @declanfleming
theASE
- Moderator
Feb 20 @ 3:40 PM EST
Just as relevant now..Expert demonstrator Paul McCrory writes in SSR 'in defence of Demos' (members login)
#asechat
https://t.co/GgfsPEX4Ae
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:40 PM EST
Hence supporting teachers to develop demo practice so important!
#ASEchat
In reply to @priscigeeks
dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:41 PM EST
#asechat
its an olde but a goode RSC Classic Chemistry Demonstrations
https://t.co/DD7tvJ8De6
In reply to @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:41 PM EST
Oh me too!
#ASEChat
MrsSuperSTEM
Feb 20 @ 3:38 PM EST
I still pick up new ideas by being shown demos from other teachers.
#ASEChat
In reply to @dave2004b, @MrsDrSarah, @HelpfulScience
ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:41 PM EST
Which ones? Demos need to be short and sharp to be effective use of time. Biology examples?
#ASEChat
In reply to @mrsjmclark, @MrsDrSarah, @HelpfulScience
Lorrainef007
Feb 20 @ 3:41 PM EST
Use demos sometimes to act as a visual reminder of earlier learning, eg screaming jelly baby with Y8 at the end of energy topic
#asechat
doc_kristy
Feb 20 @ 3:41 PM EST
also shout out for
@CLEAPSS
for their continued focus on safe demos and communicating accidents etc
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience, @CLEAPSS
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:41 PM EST
Potential barrier - get a visualiser if poss!
#ASEchat
MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:39 PM EST
It was great - big issue with demos is students not being able to see the action.
#asechat
In reply to @SKLchem, @ViciaScience, @HelpfulScience
doc_kristy
Feb 20 @ 3:41 PM EST
💜that book!
#ASEChat
In reply to @dave2004b, @HelpfulScience
ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:42 PM EST
excepting CPAC type practicals. Do you do demos when using sensors?
#ASEChat
In reply to @Bio_Joe
MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:42 PM EST
Respiration of germinating beans. Photosynthesis in hydrogen carbonate indicator.
#asechat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @mrsjmclark, @HelpfulScience
priscigeeks
Feb 20 @ 3:42 PM EST
yep, so much to do so little time do so end up supporting enquiry skills usually 😔
#ASEchat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:42 PM EST
I found “Ms Kenrick is tired. Correct Ms Kenrick’s tired mistakes” worked!
#ASEchat
allchet94
Feb 20 @ 3:39 PM EST
If it's memorable for them, through delivery, questioning, participation then they definitely learn! Also from teacher mistakes!
#ASEChat
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:37 PM EST
Key question - do demos always have to lead to learning?
#ASEchat
MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:35 PM EST
Depends on the demo - some have great impact, but do they add to learning?
#ASEChat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @MrsSuperSTEM, @HelpfulScience
dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:42 PM EST
#asechat
ahh the days when
@RoySocChem
posted out this kind of thing to all departments
@RSC_EiC
In reply to @doc_kristy, @HelpfulScience, @RoySocChem, @RSC_EiC
PoppyPresents
Feb 20 @ 3:42 PM EST
#ASEChat
My primary teachers never did demos. I had to learn from other places. We need demos in class to keep us engaged
In reply to @SarahBearchell
Andrestrujado
Feb 20 @ 3:43 PM EST
resources are everywhere. It's just how well you can adapt them for your purposes. My favourites are old chem books
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:43 PM EST
If using a visualiser, why not show a video clip of you demoing it before lesson?
#asechat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Feb 20 @ 3:43 PM EST
Had to watch thermit reaction once by experienced chemi teacher doing with her class. Much more confident when it came to my turn
#asechat
MrsSuperSTEM
Feb 20 @ 3:38 PM EST
I still pick up new ideas by being shown demos from other teachers.
#ASEChat
In reply to @dave2004b, @MrsDrSarah, @HelpfulScience
doc_kristy
Feb 20 @ 3:43 PM EST
@UncleBo80053383
recommends usb microscope thingy!
#ASEChat
project image from that
In reply to @HelpfulScience, @UncleBo80053383
allchet94
Feb 20 @ 3:43 PM EST
SA:vol ratio using agar cubes and phenolphthalein with acid/alkali
#ASEChat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @mrsjmclark, @MrsDrSarah, @HelpfulScience
phizlab_SSP
Feb 20 @ 3:43 PM EST
I don't understand why that can't be the purpose of a demo
#asechat
In reply to @stevethedoc1, @priscigeeks, @HelpfulScience
danielharvey9
Feb 20 @ 3:43 PM EST
Surely depends on purpose. Could only think of science shows as an exception to this??
#ASEChat
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:37 PM EST
Key question - do demos always have to lead to learning?
#ASEchat
MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:35 PM EST
Depends on the demo - some have great impact, but do they add to learning?
#ASEChat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @MrsSuperSTEM, @HelpfulScience
Bio_Joe
Feb 20 @ 3:43 PM EST
Demo more likely to help with “learning” than a class practical
#ASEChat
https://t.co/pAWNjhsXvr
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:37 PM EST
Key question - do demos always have to lead to learning?
#ASEchat
MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:35 PM EST
Depends on the demo - some have great impact, but do they add to learning?
#ASEChat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @MrsSuperSTEM, @HelpfulScience
declanfleming
Feb 20 @ 3:43 PM EST
,
@doc_kristy
@HelpfulScience
yes thanks all:
https://t.co/hrTkLVmHNg
+ here
https://t.co/AZKKbD23hi
& fully approved by
@CLEAPSS
:)
#asechat
In reply to @doc_kristy, @HelpfulScience, @CLEAPSS
doc_kristy
Feb 20 @ 3:43 PM EST
ah the days when we had the cash to do that...
#ASEChat
In reply to @dave2004b, @HelpfulScience, @RoySocChem, @RSC_EiC
stevethedoc1
Feb 20 @ 3:43 PM EST
#asechat
think and prepare to make demo BIG, has to be seen to experience
In reply to @HelpfulScience
ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:44 PM EST
Would you not expect Ss to set up and use respirometers, potometers etc?
#ASEChat
In reply to @MrsDrSarah, @mrsjmclark, @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:44 PM EST
This is one to bookmark people of
#ASEchat
- seriously useful set of resources
alomshaha
Feb 20 @ 3:40 PM EST
I've collected together whole bunch of demo videos here
https://t.co/ZXHOCyO6f2
In reply to @HelpfulScience
FarmStokehill
Feb 20 @ 3:44 PM EST
#asechat
Q5 What isn't a good resource? Many of the best are free / readily available. My go-to resource for secondary science? Plasticine.
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:44 PM EST
Biology demos anyone?
#ASEchat
ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:41 PM EST
Which ones? Demos need to be short and sharp to be effective use of time. Biology examples?
#ASEChat
In reply to @mrsjmclark, @MrsDrSarah, @HelpfulScience
mrsjmclark
Feb 20 @ 3:44 PM EST
eg. Balloons to show stoma opening,test for O2 after LI/elodea,skittles diffusion,osmosis visking tubing,blood comp
#ASEChat
In reply to @ViciaScience
MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:44 PM EST
Depends on the age group & the point you're making.
#asechat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @mrsjmclark, @HelpfulScience
ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:44 PM EST
What is the benefit of demo of this over Ss doing it themselves?
#ASEChat
In reply to @allchet94, @mrsjmclark, @MrsDrSarah, @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:45 PM EST
I have so much love for
@CLEAPSS
- they have answered many a call of mine!
#ASEChat
In reply to @CLEAPSS
doc_kristy
Feb 20 @ 3:41 PM EST
also shout out for
@CLEAPSS
for their continued focus on safe demos and communicating accidents etc
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience, @CLEAPSS
priscigeeks
Feb 20 @ 3:45 PM EST
to stimulate own enquiry you mean? If so, I agree!
#asechat
In reply to @phizlab_SSP, @stevethedoc1, @HelpfulScience
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Feb 20 @ 3:45 PM EST
Great reminder, a good one to look up, thanks
#asechat
theASE
- Moderator
Feb 20 @ 3:40 PM EST
Just as relevant now..Expert demonstrator Paul McCrory writes in SSR 'in defence of Demos' (members login)
#asechat
https://t.co/GgfsPEX4Ae
dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:45 PM EST
#asechat
you can use smartphones as wireless webcams, using apps like IPWebcam
https://t.co/9pfUD0Ymrd
Bio_Joe
Feb 20 @ 3:45 PM EST
don’t use sensors. Too much faff
#ASEchat
In reply to @ViciaScience
MrsSuperSTEM
Feb 20 @ 3:45 PM EST
I've practised more demos in last 6m at new school then ever before to make sure I'm 100% confident in new environment!
#ASEChat
In reply to @NeedhamL56
allchet94
Feb 20 @ 3:45 PM EST
my 'correct the misconception monkey' and 'learn from mistakes lemur' is fun...kids think you're nuts but oh well!
#ASEChat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:46 PM EST
OK. I would expect pupils to do all of these, inc blood osmosis
#ASEChat
In reply to @mrsjmclark
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:46 PM EST
The bio suggestions are coming in thick and fast!
#ASEchat
allchet94
Feb 20 @ 3:43 PM EST
SA:vol ratio using agar cubes and phenolphthalein with acid/alkali
#ASEChat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @mrsjmclark, @MrsDrSarah, @HelpfulScience
theASE
- Moderator
Feb 20 @ 3:46 PM EST
In terms of resources - are there any good
@YouTube
channels for demos aimed at educators?
#asechat
In reply to @YouTube
mrsjmclark
Feb 20 @ 3:47 PM EST
depends on what looking at/time eg.Demo yeast anaer resp using oil/indicator then pupils carry out effect of temp
#ASEChat
In reply to @ViciaScience
Bio_Joe
Feb 20 @ 3:47 PM EST
evidence would suggest that science practicals aren’t good for science learning
#ASEChat
In reply to @phizlab_SSP, @HelpfulScience
allchet94
Feb 20 @ 3:47 PM EST
can be quite fast and snappy ➖➡️discussion of a vital bio concept
#ASEChat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @mrsjmclark, @MrsDrSarah, @HelpfulScience
ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:47 PM EST
Sure. And on equipment availability, but out of choice which is better - demo or pupil?
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jesswade
Feb 20 @ 3:47 PM EST
@icoutreach
&
@drclairesweet
help Carole out!
#ASEchat
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NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Feb 20 @ 3:47 PM EST
Which you could say about any demo not just biology!
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MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:44 PM EST
Depends on the age group & the point you're making.
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_N_Austin
Feb 20 @ 3:47 PM EST
Any suggestions for good demos for assembly in science week? Need to be large enough to be seen
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HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:48 PM EST
evidence would suggest it depends on what / how you’re doing it - but v little research on primary!
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MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:48 PM EST
For me that's different in different scenarios & with different groups.
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ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:48 PM EST
But so much more effective in time and quality of data for respiration and photosynthesis
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Bio_Joe
Feb 20 @ 3:45 PM EST
don’t use sensors. Too much faff
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mrsjmclark
Feb 20 @ 3:48 PM EST
not time for pupils to do all variations tho.eg.I would demo visking tubing but pupils carry out mass of potato prac.
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dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:48 PM EST
#asechat
carefully thought through ones can be
https://t.co/aIsFPQnk1Q
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stevethedoc1
Feb 20 @ 3:48 PM EST
#asechat
human in a bubble
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NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Feb 20 @ 3:49 PM EST
Latter I’d def do as class practical, love the ‘reveal’ and shock that it goes yellow in the dark
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MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:42 PM EST
Respiration of germinating beans. Photosynthesis in hydrogen carbonate indicator.
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doc_kristy
Feb 20 @ 3:49 PM EST
liver/hydrogen peroxide (and washing up liq) when introducing enzymes
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HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:49 PM EST
Q6: How can we make sure practical work is worthwhile?
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- fair bit of evidence suggests it often isn’t : (
allchet94
Feb 20 @ 3:49 PM EST
am a huge fan of this publication.
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perryscience
Feb 20 @ 3:49 PM EST
Check out this:
https://t.co/pCXc9ORNIb
. Its full of tips for assemblies and
#DemoDay17
ideas!
#ASEchat
In reply to @_N_Austin
dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:50 PM EST
#asechat
https://t.co/qOZAiQWSrQ
would be a good place to start
In reply to @_N_Austin
priscigeeks
Feb 20 @ 3:50 PM EST
I remember the day you put me in a bubble Steve! My first
#aseconf
#asechat
@HelpfulScience
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perryscience
Feb 20 @ 3:50 PM EST
What on earth is that? I'm intrigued!
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In reply to @stevethedoc1, @_N_Austin
Andrestrujado
Feb 20 @ 3:51 PM EST
Great one I did today catalytic decomposition of H2O2 using blood (catalase) (fr leftover heart dissection)
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dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:51 PM EST
#asechat
sorry to retweet this so quickly but it's a really important addition to the field...
https://t.co/aIsFPQnk1Q
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allchet94
Feb 20 @ 3:51 PM EST
but for logistical ease and using a visualiser you get great proof of concept
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MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:51 PM EST
I think you get that with demo too though. And can set up pre-class for bigger effect.
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Bio_Joe
Feb 20 @ 3:51 PM EST
yeah barely anyone looks at the primary classroom.
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HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:52 PM EST
And reducing waste too!
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Andrestrujado
Feb 20 @ 3:51 PM EST
Great one I did today catalytic decomposition of H2O2 using blood (catalase) (fr leftover heart dissection)
#ASEChat
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HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:52 PM EST
Seems like a worthwhile book - ooh and my PhD supervisor is one of the authors!
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dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:51 PM EST
#asechat
sorry to retweet this so quickly but it's a really important addition to the field...
https://t.co/aIsFPQnk1Q
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allchet94
Feb 20 @ 3:53 PM EST
A pluck can go a long way! 👌🏼
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HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:52 PM EST
And reducing waste too!
#ASEchat
Andrestrujado
Feb 20 @ 3:51 PM EST
Great one I did today catalytic decomposition of H2O2 using blood (catalase) (fr leftover heart dissection)
#ASEChat
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Bio_Joe
Feb 20 @ 3:53 PM EST
not really. The data is in the machine and inaccessible to students
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priscigeeks
Feb 20 @ 3:53 PM EST
😔
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HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:53 PM EST
Don’t fear,
@phizlab_SSP
& I are on it!
#ASEchat
#PriSci
In reply to @phizlab_SSP
Bio_Joe
Feb 20 @ 3:51 PM EST
yeah barely anyone looks at the primary classroom.
#ASEchat
In reply to @HelpfulScience, @phizlab_SSP
SarahBearchell
Feb 20 @ 3:54 PM EST
Is it this one?
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ViciaScience
Feb 20 @ 3:54 PM EST
can be messy - good plant alternatives. like the washing up liquid
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doc_kristy
Feb 20 @ 3:49 PM EST
liver/hydrogen peroxide (and washing up liq) when introducing enzymes
#ASEChat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @mrsjmclark, @MrsDrSarah, @HelpfulScience
MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:54 PM EST
We've just got a set of data loggers. Jury's out so far, but will report back!
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HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:54 PM EST
Look up Robin Millar / Jonathan Osborne e.g. Practical work in science: misunderstood and badly used?
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dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:54 PM EST
#asechat
And the original as well!
https://t.co/Br0bfQ0Tbh
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doc_kristy
Feb 20 @ 3:54 PM EST
lettuce works pretty well too
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In reply to @ViciaScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:54 PM EST
Always. So much love for Muncaster!
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priscigeeks
Feb 20 @ 3:55 PM EST
@PsqmTurner
has a photo of me doing this!
#asechat
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stevethedoc1
Feb 20 @ 3:55 PM EST
#asechat
a real human in a bubble
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HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:55 PM EST
We’re almost at the end of
#ASEchat
and it’s been so busy I’m sure I’ve missed loads!! Final questions coming up...
perryscience
Feb 20 @ 3:56 PM EST
Pretty self-explanatory haha...
#ASEchat
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NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Feb 20 @ 3:56 PM EST
well they are the 'main men' Abrahams and Reiss purpose of practical work
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dave2004b
Feb 20 @ 3:48 PM EST
#asechat
carefully thought through ones can be
https://t.co/aIsFPQnk1Q
In reply to @allchet94, @ViciaScience, @mrsjmclark, @MrsDrSarah, @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:56 PM EST
Q7: Have you pledged for this year’s Demo Day?
https://t.co/dNT1UTrZKi
If not, do it now!
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FarmStokehill
Feb 20 @ 3:56 PM EST
#asechat
Q6 For starters, don't spoil the story by giving away the ending beforehand! Stop the class at intervals to ask them about the expt
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:57 PM EST
And final question: What are your favourite demos?
#ASEchat
I personally have a soft spot for Magdeburg Hemispheres
https://t.co/JTLlexDQLI
ScienceWeekUK
Feb 20 @ 3:57 PM EST
The brill & informative science demo
#asechat
is coming to an end - thanks to everyone inv. in the discussion tonight, esp
@HelpfulScience
MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:57 PM EST
You've been a brilliant host, thanks so much!
#asechat
In reply to @HelpfulScience
HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:58 PM EST
Thanks so much to everyone who’s taken part! So much to digest (metaphorically).
#ASEChat
ScienceWeekUK
Feb 20 @ 3:57 PM EST
The brill & informative science demo
#asechat
is coming to an end - thanks to everyone inv. in the discussion tonight, esp
@HelpfulScience
TFScientist
Feb 20 @ 3:58 PM EST
One day, my daughter will go to sleep before 9:30pm and I will, once again, be able to join in
#asechat
...
priscigeeks
Feb 20 @ 3:59 PM EST
really excited to be hosting a joint
#PrimaryRocks
#asechat
this time next week! Thanks
@HelpfulScience
👍🏻
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perryscience
Feb 20 @ 3:59 PM EST
Seconded! Well done
@HelpfulScience
Carole and thank you :)
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MrsDrSarah
Feb 20 @ 3:57 PM EST
You've been a brilliant host, thanks so much!
#asechat
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HelpfulScience
Feb 20 @ 3:59 PM EST
Will be sure to join in for that one too : )
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priscigeeks
Feb 20 @ 3:59 PM EST
really excited to be hosting a joint
#PrimaryRocks
#asechat
this time next week! Thanks
@HelpfulScience
👍🏻
In reply to @ScienceWeekUK, @HelpfulScience, @HelpfulScience
allchet94
Feb 20 @ 3:59 PM EST
Top class
#ASEChat
hosted by
@HelpfulScience
👏🏼 Always provides me so much to think about going forwards!
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