#meded Archive

All ideas and resources tweeted alongside #meded are curated and collected here.

Thursday August 16, 2018
9:00 PM EDT

  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 16 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to the Medical Education chat (US) I am your moderator for the next hour, @alliance4clined #meded
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 16 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    The topic & questions will be announced in a moment…for now, please introduce yourselves #meded
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 16 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    If you are tuning in to the #meded chat, remember to use the #meded hashtag and try to answer with the Topic numbers (T1, T2, T3)
  • GLBDallaghan Aug 16 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Gary here in North Carolina! #meded
    In reply to @MedEdChat
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 16 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    We will assume that all of your tweets are your own during this hour unless otherwise stated #meded
  • mmteacherdoc Aug 16 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Hey everyone - Marty from @MedicalCollege of Wisconsin in Milwaukee. Excited to talk #MedEd tonight
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 16 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Welcome, Marty! #meded
    In reply to @mmteacherdoc, @MedicalCollege
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 16 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    T1 about to come up in a few moments #meded
  • ArielaLMarshall Aug 16 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    HUGE step forward NYU Med School - free tuition for all #Medstudents regardless of need/merit! Reduces burden of #debt for future MDs, may enable more socioeconomically disadvanteged to go to #Medschool #MedEd #AcMed #education #DiversityandInclusion https://t.co/JUVtDJ6PHL
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 16 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Topic 1: What basic clinical skills do medical students need upon graduation? #meded
  • GLBDallaghan Aug 16 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    T1 #meded #communications Taking a good history is critical
    In reply to @Alliance4ClinEd, @apgonews, @Surg_Education
  • myheroistrane Aug 16 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Paul from PSU here, commemorating the life of Aretha and chatting #meded !
  • mmteacherdoc Aug 16 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    This is a good place to start. @AAMCtoday https://t.co/mev0tvB0Fs #MedEd
  • abhaydandekar Aug 16 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    T1: on top of the Standard core EPA’s, humility to learn from patients, courage to embrace ambiguity, inquiry thirst to seek deeper answers, facile ability to use EHR to strengthen patient and team relationships #MedEd
    In reply to @MedEdChat
  • myheroistrane Aug 16 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    T1: #medicalstudents need to learn how to improvise; #improvisation is the 7th competency in #meded
  • DrArchibald1 Aug 16 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    https://t.co/F2IHm7NGaR this study reminds me of your passionate desire for clinicians to refer to “drug seeking behavior” as “untreated addiction” a practice I’ve adopted in my charting and communications since you brought my attention to it) #MedEd @RyanGamlin
  • BJBRoman Aug 16 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    Brenda Roman in Ohio #meded
    In reply to @MedEdChat
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 16 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    Welcome! #meded
    In reply to @BJBRoman
  • Alliance4ClinEd Aug 16 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    T1 #meded How would you propose evaluating some of these?
    In reply to @abhaydandekar, @MedEdChat
  • myheroistrane Aug 16 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    yes, AND... #Doctors should BUILD histories WITH #patients, rather than TAKING histories FROM them... https://t.co/U60wdn0dbY #meded
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 16 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    T1 #meded That's a great resource. Thanks for sharing it.
  • GLBDallaghan Aug 16 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    T1 #meded @debsimpson3 and @KMarcdante are amazing when it comes to improv for #facdev I do think it's a good skill for #medstudents
    In reply to @myheroistrane, @debsimpson3, @KMarcdante
  • GoldFdtn Aug 16 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    "Preliminary research from a variety of randomized controlled trials suggests that #compassion can in fact be enhanced through systematic training programs." https://t.co/o5aEpWrBFl #meded via @GreaterGoodSC
  • Alliance4ClinEd Aug 16 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    T1 #meded We contributed to this report that was done years ago. Is it still relevant in medicine of 2018? https://t.co/Lrvq6NvDKc
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    Topic 2: How do you determine which skills are necessary for clinical training (before clerkships)? Why might these be different than the skills needed for graduation? #MedEd
  • NityaAbraham Aug 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    An Historic Announcement at the School of Medicine: https://t.co/8TgFv54qL9 If only this had gone into effect in 2002 when I was there! #NYUSOM #freetuition #meded
  • myheroistrane Aug 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    Apropos to tonight’s conversation... can’t be clinically effective without compassion. #meded #healthcare #patexp #patientexperience
  • Alliance4ClinEd Aug 16 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    T2: What skills are needed for the clerkships? How can DOCS help prepare #medstudents for required clinical training? #meded
  • GLBDallaghan Aug 16 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    T2 #meded This sort of relates to our discussion last week. Is this for the undifferentiated #medstudent ? Should we be considering skills that transcend all disciplines initially?
    In reply to @Alliance4ClinEd
  • DrJenChen4kids Aug 16 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    T1: What I’ve noticed most working with new interns recently is they still have issues boiling things down to a concise assessment/plan, communicating w families avoiding jargon, and reassessing as things change (premature closure) #MedEd
    In reply to @MedEdChat
  • myheroistrane Aug 16 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    T2: critical thinking is a key ability for #medicalstudents going into clinical rotations: can’t learn without curiosity, open mindedness, intellectual humility, balanced skepticism, and metacognition. #meded
  • mmteacherdoc Aug 16 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    T2 - ask the clerkship directors. 😉#MedEd
  • BJBRoman Aug 16 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    T2: Besides being able to build an H&P, need curiosity and a willingness to learn from patients #MedEd
    In reply to @Alliance4ClinEd
  • abhaydandekar Aug 16 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    Foundationally yes, but entrustment for activities specific to each clerkship will develop as the experiences happen #MedEd
    In reply to @GLBDallaghan, @Alliance4ClinEd
  • Alliance4ClinEd Aug 16 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    T2 #meded How would you teach that?
    • BJBRoman Aug 16 @ 9:27 PM EDT
      T2: Besides being able to build an H&P, need curiosity and a willingness to learn from patients #MedEd
      In reply to @Alliance4ClinEd
  • abhaydandekar Aug 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    T2: effective immersion and observations of personal interactions, systems, and teamwork as they enact patient care #MedEd
    In reply to @Alliance4ClinEd
  • mmteacherdoc Aug 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    T2- reflection skills - they will learn more from reflections their experiences than from the experiences themselves, in many cases. #MedEd
  • Alliance4ClinEd Aug 16 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    T2 #meded This is true, but #medstudents often complain about doing reflections. How do you help pre-clinical students understand the importance?
    • mmteacherdoc Aug 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
      T2- reflection skills - they will learn more from reflections their experiences than from the experiences themselves, in many cases. #MedEd
  • BJBRoman Aug 16 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    T2 set the stage in preclinical years through a curriculum that requires critical thinking. Be a role model for students by telling them stories about what we learned from patients. #Meded
    In reply to @Alliance4ClinEd
  • Sinchita_Roy Aug 16 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    The brilliant @smlungpathguy working his magic #PulmPath #MedEd Fantastic tweetorial on #carcinoid tumors of #lung 🙏🏼
    • smlungpathguy Aug 15 @ 11:09 PM EDT
      Tweetorial on carcinoid tumor of the lung. I’ll add to it little by little every week 😊 #pathology #pulmpath 1/ Carcinoid tumor is the lower grade end of the spectrum of neuroendocrine tumors in the lung. Caution: lung terminology is different from GI tract terminology
  • abhaydandekar Aug 16 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    T2: ability to know your limits, take pauses to allow for reflection, and cultivate a personal learning environment of wellness #MedEd
  • CarloRajMD Aug 16 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    Higher Mortality Risk Seen with Low Carb Diet (CME/CE) #MedEd https://t.co/hkCKSLxeLh
  • mmteacherdoc Aug 16 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    T2- ability to do a good self-assessment, co-create learning goals around areas for improvement, and hear/respond positively to feedback. #MedEd
  • DaveLewMD Aug 16 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    T1: history taking, clear/concise sign out, communicating plans to other providers and FAMILIES, IV access, how to function within a multidisciplinary team #meded
    In reply to @MedEdChat
  • mmteacherdoc Aug 16 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    Good question. Role model this skill? And reflection isn’t always narrative - often this is the part students push back on. #MedEd
    In reply to @Alliance4ClinEd
  • abhaydandekar Aug 16 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    Which faculty must also model in their own practices ! #MedEd
    In reply to @mmteacherdoc
  • colmjmccarthy Aug 16 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    Very impressed so far with @GoodDoctorABC for addressing issues of health care provider #stress, #burnout, #wellness, #counseling, and the impact #patients have on residents. Imagine if all hospital presidents sought out residents after losing a patient. #MedTwitter #meded
  • amyshawmd Aug 16 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    These are pretty hard! The more (and earlier) practice, the better #meded T2
    In reply to @mmteacherdoc
  • Alliance4ClinEd Aug 16 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    T2 #meded Here is a nice article from some @AAIMOnline reps about pre-clinical skills https://t.co/bSlb6tnDVd
  • mmteacherdoc Aug 16 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    T2- skills in recognizing burnout & other challenges to well-being in self & others. And the ability/willingness to seek help or encourage others to do so. #MedEd
  • DrJenChen4kids Aug 16 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    T2: Systematic organization (for notes, presentations, etc), knowing when to ask for help or clarification, interdisciplinary communication (eg send them to shadow RN, RT, SW), how to do quick lit search for clinical questions #MedEd #medstudent
    In reply to @Alliance4ClinEd
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 16 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    Topic 3: Even though medical schools sign off on these skills being required, residency programs often disregard this. How can that gap be bridged? #MedEd
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 16 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    Welcome to the chat #meded
  • myheroistrane Aug 16 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    aka intellectual humility! 😁 #meded
    • mmteacherdoc Aug 16 @ 9:32 PM EDT
      T2- ability to do a good self-assessment, co-create learning goals around areas for improvement, and hear/respond positively to feedback. #MedEd
  • mmteacherdoc Aug 16 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    T2- I’m reading this now. Quick & easy. Good stuff, easy applicability to #MedEd https://t.co/zdJ0bWuiwM
    In reply to @debsimpson3
  • Alliance4ClinEd Aug 16 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    T3: Even though medical schools sign off on these skills being required, residency programs often disregard this. Should we worry about levels of competence when students start over again on July 1 of their internship? #MedEd
  • paladineh Aug 16 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    This is a great point - faculty need to model reflection; it can’t be something we make only students or residents do. #meded
    In reply to @mmteacherdoc, @Alliance4ClinEd
  • DrJenChen4kids Aug 16 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    T3: Oh heck yes...many interns come in after not doing clinical rotations for several months, so no wonder they feel rusty! #MedEd
    In reply to @Alliance4ClinEd
  • abhaydandekar Aug 16 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    T3: warm handoff - a true & authentic post match conversation between faculty from both sides to gauge learner strengths and opportunities for growth prior to starting residency! #MedEd
    In reply to @Alliance4ClinEd
  • GLBDallaghan Aug 16 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    T3 #meded This is part of my problem with the EPA framework. Should med schools spend as much time and energy on these if program directors don't accept competency designations by the school? @acgme
    In reply to @Alliance4ClinEd, @acgme
  • myheroistrane Aug 16 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    Totally agree, and I would posit that faculty who don’t actively reflect probably aren’t very good faculty.. it’s a key activity for BOTH clinical effectiveness AND educational effectiveness #meded
    • paladineh Aug 16 @ 9:41 PM EDT
      This is a great point - faculty need to model reflection; it can’t be something we make only students or residents do. #meded
      In reply to @mmteacherdoc, @Alliance4ClinEd
  • Kfoy13 Aug 16 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    With newer BP targets is this a better options?? Good morning report topic to discuss!! #MedEd #PrimaryCare Effect of Fixed Low-Dose Combination Antihypertensive Medication vs Usual Care on Blood Pressure https://t.co/DYACUpKppm
  • myheroistrane Aug 16 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    What if the learner actively participated in the warm handoff, bringing the areas they were actively working on to each new set of teachers? #meded nirvana...
    In reply to @abhaydandekar, @Alliance4ClinEd
  • myheroistrane Aug 16 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    I think this is a subtle and important part of the hidden curriculum that rarely gets talked about... docs often won’t trust any data that they did not collect themselves... leads to all kinds of waste #meded
    In reply to @GLBDallaghan, @Alliance4ClinEd, @acgme
  • GLBDallaghan Aug 16 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    T3 #meded So then how can we bridge this handoff between medical school and residency? Are we just paying lip service to wanting it without seriously planning to do it?
    In reply to @myheroistrane, @Alliance4ClinEd, @acgme
  • abhaydandekar Aug 16 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    T3: this scheme describes some elements of the current thinking and potential #MedEd nirvana
  • BJBRoman Aug 16 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    And how much of that might be related to liability concerns, real or imagined #Meded
    In reply to @myheroistrane, @GLBDallaghan, @Alliance4ClinEd, @acgme
  • GLBDallaghan Aug 16 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    T3 #meded Good point. It all gets back to compliance offices again. :/
    In reply to @BJBRoman, @myheroistrane, @Alliance4ClinEd, @acgme
  • abhaydandekar Aug 16 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    T3- Here is one scheme - we all must own this however for the sake of our patients and our learners #MedEd https://t.co/EdaWu9N1qp
    In reply to @Alliance4ClinEd
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 16 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    We have about 5 more minutes left in our discussion. Please feel free to give some final thoughts #meded
  • debsimpson3 Aug 16 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    T2 absolutely-FSB [feedback seeking behavior] lit from org psych and industrial psych that this read references is pretty amazing. Want to advance quickly? Ask for specific actionable feedback. Would that we as #meded -ucators role model this behavior. Am trying. @AuroraGME
  • SubhasisMisraMD Aug 16 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    An honor to present GME wide grand rounds ⁦@HCAhealthcare⁩ ⁦@BrandonRegional⁩ to an exceptional group of residents and faculty. #MedEd and faculty development ⁦happening through HCA consortium model thanks to @ACGME
  • Alliance4ClinEd Aug 16 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    Final Thoughts: Some interesting ideas about necessary clinical skills that don't fit into some of the more traditional notions. Great discussion #meded
    In reply to @MedEdChat
  • myheroistrane Aug 16 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    Gonna let Aretha have the final word tonight: “You better think... Think about what you tryin to do to me. Think... Let your mind go, let yourself be free” #meded
  • mmteacherdoc Aug 16 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    And understand that events in your environment are also “feedback” - take them in, consider, respond appropriately. #MedEd
    In reply to @debsimpson3, @AuroraGME
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 16 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    Join us again next week at 9 pm Thursday. Don't forget to suggest topics by DM or email #meded
  • abhaydandekar Aug 16 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    As tech and AI continue to integrate further into care delivery, will need to redefine knowledge/skills and therefore entrustment to be curators of effective use and how this translates to real patients! #MedEd
    In reply to @Alliance4ClinEd, @MedEdChat
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 16 @ 10:00 PM EDT
    That's a wrap...I will be posting the transcript tomorrow morning. Thanks everyone for participating! #meded