#BSD7chat Archive
Wednesday June 1, 2016
10:00 PM EDT
rachelmarker
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Jun 1 @ 10:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
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! We're so glad you're here. Share your name, role and school!
@mtkristigaines
@AdrianAdvinMT
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mtkristigaines
Jun 1 @ 10:01 PM EDT
It's timefor
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
#BSD7chat
! We're so glad you're here. Share your name, role and school!
@mtkristigaines
@AdrianAdvinMT
https://t.co/9pl0ZTYWR5
mtkristigaines
Jun 1 @ 10:02 PM EDT
Hi
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! Kristi Gaines, 2nd grade at Meadowlark.
rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:03 PM EDT
Question 1 is here!
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@mtkristigaines
@AdrianAdvinMT
https://t.co/tyRiGmNn71
MrHagemeister
Jun 1 @ 10:03 PM EDT
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Joe Hagemeister Curriculum and Technology Specialist based at Willson.
KarlyMoura
Jun 1 @ 10:04 PM EDT
Karly, TOSA from SF Bay Area, CA. Super excited for
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!
https://t.co/uPO4rvDfQ5
rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:04 PM EDT
Hi Kristi and Joe! Might be tough to draw a crowd on such a nice night!
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Tip for
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... Open this link in a separate tab:
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View the Qs whenever you need!
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:05 PM EDT
@KarlyMoura
Hi Karly! Thanks for joining us!
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SEANJFAHEY
Jun 1 @ 10:05 PM EDT
Sean 4th grade T from Indiana
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:05 PM EDT
@SEANJFAHEY
Yay! Sean's here!
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TTmomTT
Jun 1 @ 10:06 PM EDT
Mandi, HS Math from MO. I love talking about no homework :-)
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MrHagemeister
Jun 1 @ 10:06 PM EDT
A1 Homework should only be assigned in the upper grades as a chance to build on skills presented in class.
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mtkristigaines
Jun 1 @ 10:06 PM EDT
A1: No hw in my room! I just ask my 2nds to read something of their choice to their families. If requested, I'll send books.
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SEANJFAHEY
Jun 1 @ 10:06 PM EDT
A1 I try not to give HW. I tell Ps at beginning of year that giving HW is not my goal as a T.
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KarlyMoura
Jun 1 @ 10:06 PM EDT
A1 Not in the classroom but I would love to have some sort of super low cost monthly family
#STEM
challenge as my "HW" if I was.
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:06 PM EDT
A1 I always encouraged my Ss to read, but that was about it. Gave up reading logs, too. No to HW!
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:07 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
Hey Mandi! Cool of you to join us! Woot!!
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:07 PM EDT
@MrHagemeister
What would you define as "upper grades"?
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TTmomTT
Jun 1 @ 10:07 PM EDT
A1: I don't assign homework, I give opportunities for practice, preferably in class. I encourage Ss to practice what they need.
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:08 PM EDT
@mtkristigaines
Awesome that you send books home. Great for Ss who don't have rich home libs.
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SEANJFAHEY
Jun 1 @ 10:08 PM EDT
This would be fun
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https://t.co/IhpeiulNEj
KarlyMoura
Jun 1 @ 10:06 PM EDT
A1 Not in the classroom but I would love to have some sort of super low cost monthly family
#STEM
challenge as my "HW" if I was.
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watsonmontana
Jun 1 @ 10:08 PM EDT
Great discussion about the purpose of homework tonight on
#BSD7chat
. I will follow along with much interest.
rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:08 PM EDT
@KarlyMoura
That would be exciting for families to partake in. Would you provide all supplies?
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MrHagemeister
Jun 1 @ 10:08 PM EDT
A1.2 If a student can't complete hw at home the skill must be retaught. Most research shows a negative impact below 9th grade
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:09 PM EDT
@SEANJFAHEY
Good for you for being direct about it from the get-go. Ps need educating on no HW!
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mtkristigaines
Jun 1 @ 10:09 PM EDT
@KarlyMoura
I love the
#STEM
challenge idea!
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:10 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
Love that you're teaching ur Ss some meta-cognition... to know what they need to practice!
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:10 PM EDT
Time for Q2... Share the pros and cons of HW.
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@mtkristigaines
@AdrianAdvinMT
https://t.co/9OazHqfuT4
SEANJFAHEY
Jun 1 @ 10:10 PM EDT
Since coming back from Christmas break my students had ZERO assigned HW before it was weekly spelling prac
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KarlyMoura
Jun 1 @ 10:10 PM EDT
@rachelmarker
If needed but it would be stuff like "what can you create with cardboard tubes?"
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TTmomTT
Jun 1 @ 10:11 PM EDT
@rachelmarker
It's tough at first but I also make everything formative until sem end so Ss learn how to determine.
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SEANJFAHEY
Jun 1 @ 10:11 PM EDT
About 4 wks in a get a large amount of notes & email...Johnny isn't bring any HE home, is this right?
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https://t.co/7uVAjbpixD
rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:09 PM EDT
@SEANJFAHEY
Good for you for being direct about it from the get-go. Ps need educating on no HW!
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:11 PM EDT
True. The research doesn't support HW in Elem/MS. Here are some articles:
https://t.co/7F058rUVYl
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https://t.co/nZan1jdyAS
MrHagemeister
Jun 1 @ 10:08 PM EDT
A1.2 If a student can't complete hw at home the skill must be retaught. Most research shows a negative impact below 9th grade
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:12 PM EDT
@SEANJFAHEY
I got the same from Ps. Some actually *wanted* HW. Others were thrilled that child had none. :)
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MrHagemeister
Jun 1 @ 10:12 PM EDT
A2 K8 Hw has been shown to have a neg impact on well being, fam relationships, and fam time with very little impact on achievement
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:12 PM EDT
@KarlyMoura
Yah, perfect!
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kimforuria
Jun 1 @ 10:13 PM EDT
A1 I agree with no homework. I ask my students to read, but no more logs. Building a love of reading through choice!
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TTmomTT
Jun 1 @ 10:13 PM EDT
A2: HW (practice) can reinforce skills but projects and conversation can do the same. If it goes home Ss probably don't have help.
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KarlyMoura
Jun 1 @ 10:13 PM EDT
A2 Con of HW is that it is often given just because "It's the way we've always done it"
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https://t.co/RJdId5hC9F
rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:13 PM EDT
@kimforuria
Yes! Agree that making it required and filling out a log doesn't encourage a love of rdg.
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MrHagemeister
Jun 1 @ 10:14 PM EDT
A2.1 Hw is often times impacted by fam input rather than facilatation, which misleads true student understanding of concepts.
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watsonmontana
Jun 1 @ 10:14 PM EDT
A2: What can we do for those Ss who don't have outside support? Is this a homework con?
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:14 PM EDT
BOOM! So true of many aspects of education.
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https://t.co/82cw0KKGlT
KarlyMoura
Jun 1 @ 10:13 PM EDT
A2 Con of HW is that it is often given just because "It's the way we've always done it"
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https://t.co/RJdId5hC9F
TTmomTT
Jun 1 @ 10:14 PM EDT
@rachelmarker
@SEANJFAHEY
Imagine the ? when I did this at the HS level. Some Ps don't think you are doing your job it no HW
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mtkristigaines
Jun 1 @ 10:14 PM EDT
A2.1 5 yrs ago I'd have listed good habits, communication as pros. After giving up JW, I find there are better ways for both.
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SEANJFAHEY
Jun 1 @ 10:15 PM EDT
This is a great podcast by
@markbarnes19
from
#HackLearning
about what needs to change about HW
https://t.co/V7lo8D7nZD
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:15 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
@SEANJFAHEY
Thx for reminding us you're at HS level. Do you find no HW a hard sell among colleagues?
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MrHagemeister
Jun 1 @ 10:15 PM EDT
A2.2 Learning should be a journey which is ongoing, not something that is completed nightly.
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NVradenburg
Jun 1 @ 10:16 PM EDT
Hello
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Sorry to show up late, we had a spring concert tonight! Nikki, k-1, LaMotte School East of Bozeman
TTmomTT
Jun 1 @ 10:16 PM EDT
@rachelmarker
@SEANJFAHEY
Yes but I'm winning them over little by little. My Ss are taking ownership of what they need & it shows.
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:16 PM EDT
A2 I found that HW w parents often "undid" the teaching I was doing at school. Strategies undone. Algorithms instead. Nooooo!
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AdrianAdvinMT
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:16 PM EDT
Sorry for coming in late everybody - Adrian from Irving wanting to discuss HW!
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:16 PM EDT
@watsonmontana
I would say this is a *big* HW con. Some Ss are immediately at a disadvantage.
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mtkristigaines
Jun 1 @ 10:16 PM EDT
A2.2 Cons to HW: strained relationships, misunderstandings, paper waste, time waste, allows for families to prioritize family!
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:17 PM EDT
Question 3: Do you have parents who expect homework?
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@mtkristigaines
@AdrianAdvinMT
https://t.co/i76T3F07UM
TTmomTT
Jun 1 @ 10:17 PM EDT
@rachelmarker
They want their children to "learn" like they did. Memorize isn't learn but it's hard to break the tradition.
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MrHagemeister
Jun 1 @ 10:17 PM EDT
@watsonmontana
Allowing Ss time to engage with their ts about hw during the day is the best way to support.
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:17 PM EDT
@mtkristigaines
Look how much we can change in just a few years!
#growthmindset
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NVradenburg
Jun 1 @ 10:18 PM EDT
A2 Pros:Ps see what Ss are doing in school Cons: Ss are tired and not at their best after all day at school, may not do well on HW
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MrsPug1
Jun 1 @ 10:18 PM EDT
A1 Changed to giving S responsibility of reading nightly and practicing vocab/math facts as needed.
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:18 PM EDT
A2 b) Adding: HW as part of a student's grade makes no sense. Means some Ss will lose points automatically bc home life is tough.
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TTmomTT
Jun 1 @ 10:18 PM EDT
@NVradenburg
and as
@alicekeeler
says ALL THE TIME kids need time away from school to be kids and have family time.
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:19 PM EDT
Thanks for sharing this, Sean! Always looking for new podcasts...
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https://t.co/iovZm0ym3N
SEANJFAHEY
Jun 1 @ 10:15 PM EDT
This is a great podcast by
@markbarnes19
from
#HackLearning
about what needs to change about HW
https://t.co/V7lo8D7nZD
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NVradenburg
Jun 1 @ 10:19 PM EDT
A3 Some Ps want it for the little ones b/c their older siblings have it. Most are glad not have to deal w/it.
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KarlyMoura
Jun 1 @ 10:19 PM EDT
A3 Yes but I would have a class website with links to educational sites and activities they could use to challenge their child.
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:19 PM EDT
@NVradenburg
Wahoo! Nikki's here!
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:19 PM EDT
@AdrianAdvinMT
Awww yeah! Glad you're here!
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AdrianAdvinMT
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:19 PM EDT
A2: At the el level I see much more cons than pros. There is a neg effect w/learning, this deepens and widens the opportunity gap,
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watsonmontana
Jun 1 @ 10:20 PM EDT
A3: Helping Ss, Ts, parents , & community understand the purpose of homework is critical.
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:20 PM EDT
@MrHagemeister
@watsonmontana
Engage w their Ts in general--not just abt homework.
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AdrianAdvinMT
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
A2.2 Kids don't have time to be kids, some parents don't have the time (work) or tools to help, this can cause conflict...
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
@MrsPug1
Curious to know what vocab words were the focus?
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AdrianAdvinMT
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
Question #3 is a good one (well all of them are!)
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https://t.co/hLwMHuYmfR
rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:17 PM EDT
Question 3: Do you have parents who expect homework?
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@mtkristigaines
@AdrianAdvinMT
https://t.co/i76T3F07UM
NVradenburg
Jun 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
@AdrianAdvinMT
So true! HW can be more stressful for Ps. Not everyone is a T!
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MrHagemeister
Jun 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
A3 Explain the purpose of homework and how education has moved from knowing things to thinking about, doing, and creating things.
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MrsPug1
Jun 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
A2 Pros -encourage love of reading and learning by choice not by force Con- Ss will be responsible for HW in upper grades/college
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mtkristigaines
Jun 1 @ 10:22 PM EDT
A3: Seversl parents want it. For a few years, I gave to Ps who were really insistent. They all gave it up after a few months.
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SEANJFAHEY
Jun 1 @ 10:22 PM EDT
A3 do they expect it? Sure! Do majority want Ss to have it? NO! Problem is Ps see HW as a chore they have to fight w/ Ss about
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:22 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
@NVradenburg
@alicekeeler
Who are WE 2 dictate how family time = spent? I want to play + *be* w my kids. No worksheets.
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TTmomTT
Jun 1 @ 10:22 PM EDT
@KarlyMoura
I also posted videos of lessons so if Ss wanted to practice at home they had support. Ps said they liked it.
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AdrianAdvinMT
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:22 PM EDT
A2.3 The list goes on and on, and there is quite a bit of research out there that defends this
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NVradenburg
Jun 1 @ 10:22 PM EDT
Having a clear purpose for the task is very important!
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https://t.co/uVSbS8F3eX
watsonmontana
Jun 1 @ 10:20 PM EDT
A3: Helping Ss, Ts, parents , & community understand the purpose of homework is critical.
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:23 PM EDT
Moving on to Q4.
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Bonus questions to follow...
@mtkristigaines
@AdrianAdvinMT
https://t.co/EqUz2G4YyY
rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:23 PM EDT
@KarlyMoura
I did this too. Great for those Ss who want extra practice.
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TTmomTT
Jun 1 @ 10:23 PM EDT
@rachelmarker
@NVradenburg
@alicekeeler
I've spend 2-3 hours some nights with my MS son. He's already worked at school all day :-(
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:24 PM EDT
@AdrianAdvinMT
Puts a strain on the parent-child relationship. Life is too stressful. Why add more?
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NVradenburg
Jun 1 @ 10:24 PM EDT
No more worksheets! No more busy work! Worth repeating!
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https://t.co/YbAGrXH8bT
rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:22 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
@NVradenburg
@alicekeeler
Who are WE 2 dictate how family time = spent? I want to play + *be* w my kids. No worksheets.
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:24 PM EDT
A3 I found it works great w Ps to be proactive and address my no HW policy (and research behind).
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TTmomTT
Jun 1 @ 10:24 PM EDT
A4: With the videos I posted my Ss also kept a standards log and reflection & goals so Ss & Ps could see what pract was needed.
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NVradenburg
Jun 1 @ 10:25 PM EDT
A4 My class blogs daily on
@EasyblogDotOrg
Anyone can see their work bit,ly/vburgblog
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:25 PM EDT
Hey
#BSD7chat
, check out this Padlet w/ HW articles + resources:
https://t.co/7F058rUVYl
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:25 PM EDT
Hey
#BSD7chat
, check out this Padlet w/ HW articles + resources:
https://t.co/7F058rUVYl
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mtkristigaines
Jun 1 @ 10:25 PM EDT
A4: Communication w/out HW: Student-written newsletter, classroom blog,
#seesaw
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TTmomTT
Jun 1 @ 10:25 PM EDT
@rachelmarker
I post a welcome to my class video at the beginning and explain my practice policy too.
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AdrianAdvinMT
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:26 PM EDT
A3: Share w/parents that this is an opportunity to promote a love for (x), not a time to drill & kill. Foster creativity & thought
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:26 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
Nice way to flip the learning with your parents! Love it!
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KarlyMoura
Jun 1 @ 10:26 PM EDT
A4 LOVING seeing what
@Seesaw
can do! Excited about the parent communication part of
#GoogleClassroom
too 👍
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MrHagemeister
Jun 1 @ 10:26 PM EDT
A4 Ask your kids about school in a different way than just asking them, 'how was school'.
https://t.co/81YRr9EBQR
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NVradenburg
Jun 1 @ 10:26 PM EDT
A4 My class blogs daily on
@EasyblogDotOrg
Ps can see and comment on work
https://t.co/dkt5FlRgnN
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NVradenburg
Jun 1 @ 10:26 PM EDT
A4 My class blogs daily on
@EasyblogDotOrg
Ps can see and comment on work
https://t.co/LunOlb23Dz
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AdrianAdvinMT
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:27 PM EDT
There are so many innovative ways to promote communication btwn Ss & Ps
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https://t.co/ubMdpFvcf8
rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:23 PM EDT
Moving on to Q4.
#BSD7chat
Bonus questions to follow...
@mtkristigaines
@AdrianAdvinMT
https://t.co/EqUz2G4YyY
MrsPug1
Jun 1 @ 10:27 PM EDT
A3 I offer websites, apps, and ideas of how to practice skills in daily routines. Also encourage reading together!
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:27 PM EDT
Here's a "Friday Reflection" I used w upper elem Ss. Great convo starter at home, I was told!
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https://t.co/CrJcubSEYO
rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:23 PM EDT
Moving on to Q4.
#BSD7chat
Bonus questions to follow...
@mtkristigaines
@AdrianAdvinMT
https://t.co/EqUz2G4YyY
TTmomTT
Jun 1 @ 10:27 PM EDT
@AdrianAdvinMT
We should make class so engaging and fun that Ss WANT to go home and talk about it.
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#tlap
rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:28 PM EDT
A4 How about put the Ss in charge? Class podcast, Ss write newsletter, use
@seesaw
to document lrng daily.
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AdrianAdvinMT
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:28 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
I agree! Let's foster innovation and engage our students throughout the entire day!
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:28 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
@NVradenburg
@alicekeeler
>> Weep! <<
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KarlyMoura
Jun 1 @ 10:29 PM EDT
@NVradenburg
@EasyblogDotOrg
Is it free? How does it compare to
@KidblogDotOrg
?
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rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:29 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
If you have any templates that might help others, post to the padlet!
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SEANJFAHEY
Jun 1 @ 10:29 PM EDT
The it is was getting ready to ask where this was.
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https://t.co/FA2rWFLtKw
rachelmarker
- Moderator
Jun 1 @ 10:25 PM EDT
Hey
#BSD7chat
, check out this Padlet w/ HW articles + resources:
https://t.co/7F058rUVYl
#BSD7chat