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Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:00 PM EDT

Welcome to #mnlead! Thanks for joining! Please introduce yourself, share your role & where you are from. BTW: Team Iron Man, or Team Cap?

PrincipalFrench May 15 @ 8:00 PM EDT

Good evening, #mnlead, Mark here, elementary principal in MN. I'm with Team Iron Man! https://t.co/B9EQq0nVuw

korytellers May 15 @ 8:01 PM EDT

Kory, Elementary Innovations T down in Byron, MN. Being 100% Norwegian I'm with #TeamThor ;) #mnlead

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:01 PM EDT

For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to my own PD through #mnlead, a @twitter chat about education. #iownmypd

SteeleThoughts May 15 @ 8:02 PM EDT

Danny Steele ... Principal in B'ham, AL. #mnlead

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:02 PM EDT

Hi All, Bret, Elementary Principal in Lakeville, MN. More of an Iron Man guy myself. Can I say I like them all? I dig X-Men more. #mnlead

JennReichel May 15 @ 8:02 PM EDT

Jenn Reichel, Dir of Teaching and Learning in Hastings. Go team! #mnlead

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:02 PM EDT

@SteeleThoughts Hey Danny! Great to have you back. Really enjoyed your ideas last time. #mnlead

millardamy2 May 15 @ 8:03 PM EDT

Amy - elementary principal in MN - my boys say Team Cap. all the way! #mnlead

chris_bussmann May 15 @ 8:03 PM EDT

Chris, MS Principal in Minnesota. Every day before I head to work I suit up like Iron Man! #invincible #mnlead

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:03 PM EDT

@JennReichel Hi Jenn! Great to see you. Hope you enjoyed the sunshine today. #mnlead

MarkJWestpfahl May 15 @ 8:03 PM EDT

Hey #mnlead! Mark from So. St. Paul. 6th #MNstudies & 7th Am Hist. in St. Paul. #CHCougars Also, I stole this ----> https://t.co/aREKIfGtkD

MrDataGuy May 15 @ 8:03 PM EDT

Jim Smith, Assessment and Data, Twin Cities. Afraid to ask what Team Cap is? #mnlead

kelley_weiss May 15 @ 8:03 PM EDT

Kelley in Maine and Team Cap all the way! #mnlead

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:04 PM EDT

@millardamy2 Hi Amy! Are you on a roll or what!? Keep the contributions to the #twittersphere going! #mnlead

BradLatzke May 15 @ 8:04 PM EDT

Brad in Battle Lake joining #mnlead

ipapaverison May 15 @ 8:04 PM EDT

Happy Syttende Mai on Tuesday! From Chaska/Edina, now CA, and of course #TeamThor Ja! @korytellers #mnlead

PrincipalFrench May 15 @ 8:04 PM EDT

@MrDataGuy Captain America! #mnlead

JennReichel May 15 @ 8:04 PM EDT

Great day! Lots of flowers planted and we're opening the pool tomorrow! #mnlead https://t.co/qRrTpebdgZ

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:03 PM EDT

@JennReichel Hi Jenn! Great to see you. Hope you enjoyed the sunshine today. #mnlead

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:04 PM EDT

@chris_bussmann The life of a Middle School principal! #mnlead

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:04 PM EDT

@MrDataGuy Hey Jim. Capt. America. All the super hero movies are out this time of year. #mnlead

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:05 PM EDT

@BradLatzke In Battle Lake? Welcome back Brad! #mnlead

millardamy2 May 15 @ 8:05 PM EDT

Hi, Bret - Glad to be here....I learn so much from all of you! #mnlead https://t.co/Plxr7IWyL1

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:04 PM EDT

@millardamy2 Hi Amy! Are you on a roll or what!? Keep the contributions to the #twittersphere going! #mnlead

korytellers May 15 @ 8:05 PM EDT

@ipapaverison Yes! A very Happy Syttende Mai! Always fun! #mnlead

EdLead670 May 15 @ 8:05 PM EDT

Crystal, Middle school AP in NC, #mnlead

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:05 PM EDT

Amy, tech integration coach in Austin, MN. Team Cap. #mnlead

MrDataGuy May 15 @ 8:05 PM EDT

@PrincipalFrench Thanks, guess I am a Star Wars guy. #mnlead

chris_bussmann May 15 @ 8:05 PM EDT

Sometimes it's like herding cats in a rainstorm....but I LOVE it! #mnlead https://t.co/RGJwnervhv

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:04 PM EDT

@chris_bussmann The life of a Middle School principal! #mnlead

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:06 PM EDT

@EdLead670 Hi Crystal. Great to have you back at #mnlead. Welcome.

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:06 PM EDT

@amythuesen Hi Amy! So fun getting to see people here that I have now met in person. Good to have you. #mnlead

PrincipalFrench May 15 @ 8:06 PM EDT

@MrDataGuy I'm old school - Batman for me! #mnlead

JK_McMahon May 15 @ 8:06 PM EDT

Jessica McMahon, Prior Lake- Savage Schools I'm team Wonder Woman. #mnlead

MoralesPattie May 15 @ 8:07 PM EDT

Pattie 5th grade Milwaukee #mnlead

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:07 PM EDT

Q1 coming up! Check out the questions at https://t.co/NTwx197lMx #mnlead

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:07 PM EDT

.@bretdom Thanks! You too...one of the many reasons I enjoyed #edcamptc was getting to meet #mnlead folks IRL.

MarkJWestpfahl May 15 @ 8:07 PM EDT

I teach next door to a guy that kind of like like Tony Stark! #mnlead https://t.co/CE8UXhCk2F

txeduchat May 15 @ 8:07 PM EDT

Less that 1 hour until #txeduchat with @TechNinjaTodd #mnlead #iaedchat #oklaed #caedchat #KidsDeserveIt

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:07 PM EDT

Look at these awesome questions! https://t.co/g2wCJnOWds Thanks @Clouducation_ #mnlead

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:08 PM EDT

Q1: What are some things that make kids ashamed of themselves as learners? #mnlead

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:08 PM EDT

.@MarkJWestpfahl Whoa...that's a strong similarity! #mnlead

millardamy2 May 15 @ 8:08 PM EDT

Great topic tonight! #mnlead https://t.co/xswneMQcCz

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:07 PM EDT

Look at these awesome questions! https://t.co/g2wCJnOWds Thanks @Clouducation_ #mnlead

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:08 PM EDT

A1: Not being able to complete work on time, family or problems getting in the way of school, poor grades. #mnlead

korytellers May 15 @ 8:09 PM EDT

A1 Themselves, peers, teachers, parents. #mnlead

PrincipalFrench May 15 @ 8:09 PM EDT

A1) I think back to my own learning as an adult or child. I'm ashamed to look silly or wrong, being laughed at or made fun of. #mnlead

BradLatzke May 15 @ 8:09 PM EDT

A1 Not having the right answer and being punished for it. Traditional grades will do that to them. #mnlead

JK_McMahon May 15 @ 8:10 PM EDT

A1: The mindset we've come to accept that right answers are correct and wrong answers are bad #mnlead

MarkJWestpfahl May 15 @ 8:10 PM EDT

A1 #mnlead Not being able to read as fast as others. Not feeling confident that they can share in front of peers. https://t.co/WVBNOUOjiW

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:08 PM EDT

Q1: What are some things that make kids ashamed of themselves as learners? #mnlead

MoralesPattie May 15 @ 8:10 PM EDT

A1) not getting something as quickly as others & making a mistake publicly are big ones in 5th #mnlead

SteeleThoughts May 15 @ 8:10 PM EDT

A1: Feeling inadequate, unacceptable, and inferior are devastating emotions for students. #mnlead

MrDataGuy May 15 @ 8:10 PM EDT

A1: Test scores when they are on a downward trajectory. Emotionally loaded and shameful. #mnlead

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:10 PM EDT

.@BradLatzke Agreed. When I was previewing questions today I couldn't help but think about the damage our grading system can do. #mnlead

JennReichel May 15 @ 8:10 PM EDT

A1. When they don't live up to expectations...and have a fixed mindset? #mnlead

ipapaverison May 15 @ 8:10 PM EDT

A1 #mnlead Shame in front of others is one of the most powerful emotions we have (as a writer, I have to use it); Ts need to phrase w/care.

chris_bussmann May 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT

A1: Imagine if your evaluation from your bldg. principal showed this. How would you feel? How about Ss? #mnlead https://t.co/kr0Rt3XobY

PrincipalFrench May 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT

@SteeleThoughts And for adults! #mnlead https://t.co/Kf8NOzahht

SteeleThoughts May 15 @ 8:10 PM EDT

A1: Feeling inadequate, unacceptable, and inferior are devastating emotions for students. #mnlead

millardamy2 May 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT

Feeling inferior...like they should already know everything about what they are learning. #mnlead https://t.co/Tgy1QEnjgk

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:08 PM EDT

Q1: What are some things that make kids ashamed of themselves as learners? #mnlead

writeonwallace May 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT

A1: being labeled as dumb. #mnlead

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT

A1.1 When they don’t have the pre-requisite skills to effectively participate in the learning activity. #mnlead

MarkJWestpfahl May 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT

A1 #mnlead it's always tough to make yourself vulnerable in front of your classmates, coworkers, etc. @PrincipalFrench

byrnedout42 May 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT

@Clouducation_ feedback on writing not tied to the current lesson. #mnlead #toomuchredink

korytellers May 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT

A1 Being pulled out of their regular classroom to have to go to a different classroom for reading or math. #mnlead

kelley_weiss May 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT

A1 feeling like they are not as able to be as successful as their peers. Like the will disappoint their Ts #mnlead

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT

#mnlead A1: https://t.co/ekYzKGESR9

millardamy2 May 15 @ 8:12 PM EDT

This is huge....and applies to elementary, middle school, and high school students! #mnlead https://t.co/mvn4qO1zvk

PrincipalFrench May 15 @ 8:09 PM EDT

A1) I think back to my own learning as an adult or child. I'm ashamed to look silly or wrong, being laughed at or made fun of. #mnlead

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:12 PM EDT

A1.2 When we, as adults, highlight that Ss deficits rather than their strengths. #mnlead

MoralesPattie May 15 @ 8:12 PM EDT

We do STAR testing and scores fluctuate wildly. It's hard for Ss to feel good about themselves. #mnlead https://t.co/2KwHmQRtTM

MrDataGuy May 15 @ 8:10 PM EDT

A1: Test scores when they are on a downward trajectory. Emotionally loaded and shameful. #mnlead

MrDataGuy May 15 @ 8:12 PM EDT

@JennReichel Is this something that is a part of them or has failure created a fixed mindset. #mnlead

chris_bussmann May 15 @ 8:12 PM EDT

That better not be real. #mnlead https://t.co/jU6elUMypd

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT

#mnlead A1: https://t.co/ekYzKGESR9

writeonwallace May 15 @ 8:12 PM EDT

A1: I also think many learners are ashamed of needing more time- not getting it right away #mnlead

EdLead670 May 15 @ 8:13 PM EDT

@Clouducation_ Please tell me that's not a real flyer/newsletter #mnlead

MarkJWestpfahl May 15 @ 8:13 PM EDT

Wow. Simply.... wow. :( #mnlead https://t.co/iTmfvcYZtd

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT

#mnlead A1: https://t.co/ekYzKGESR9

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:13 PM EDT

This is so wrong on so many levels. #mnlead #misplacedpriorities https://t.co/9vjPsYILP0

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT

#mnlead A1: https://t.co/ekYzKGESR9

millardamy2 May 15 @ 8:13 PM EDT

Great analogy...and so true! Definitely does not empower or inspire!#mnlead https://t.co/VhQPLfNEo5

chris_bussmann May 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT

A1: Imagine if your evaluation from your bldg. principal showed this. How would you feel? How about Ss? #mnlead https://t.co/kr0Rt3XobY

ipapaverison May 15 @ 8:13 PM EDT

A1/2 #mnlead Yes! Ts can model being vulnerable & error-prone (not diff for me haha!) good for Ss to see. @MarkJWestpfahl @PrincipalFrench

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:13 PM EDT

#mnlead A1: I felt ashamed to be in the low math group. They were coded, but everyone knew the Bears were dumb at math. First Grade.

korytellers May 15 @ 8:14 PM EDT

@EdLead670 @Clouducation_ From FB friends I know that a HS in NJ was doing something like last year for Ss with PARCC tests. #mnlead

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:14 PM EDT

I can almost hear the hearts dropping. #mnlead https://t.co/Hr8JWWG9pQ

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT

#mnlead A1: https://t.co/ekYzKGESR9

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:14 PM EDT

I echo what the others said here. Wow...Painful to think of the kids who don't make it. Where do they go? #mnlead https://t.co/R732MjuN2p

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT

#mnlead A1: https://t.co/ekYzKGESR9

JennReichel May 15 @ 8:14 PM EDT

Good q! I think experiences drive mindset and those with fixed look at hiccups as failure. #mnlead https://t.co/Jg2W1fr3c3

MrDataGuy May 15 @ 8:12 PM EDT

@JennReichel Is this something that is a part of them or has failure created a fixed mindset. #mnlead

EdLead670 May 15 @ 8:14 PM EDT

@amythuesen I can hear the phones ringing off the hook in the office for the principal! #mnlead

MoralesPattie May 15 @ 8:14 PM EDT

@Clouducation_ reading that makes me really angry #mnlead

korytellers May 15 @ 8:14 PM EDT

@EdLead670 @Clouducation_ They were giving out gift cards to Ss who took the test/did well (a lot of families were opting out) #mnlead

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:14 PM EDT

.@EdLead670 As they should be in this case! #mnlead

millardamy2 May 15 @ 8:15 PM EDT

And look at deficits as a problem rather than an opportunity to learn, build skills, and grow. #mnlead https://t.co/VJz5OHHlA5

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:12 PM EDT

A1.2 When we, as adults, highlight that Ss deficits rather than their strengths. #mnlead

chris_bussmann May 15 @ 8:15 PM EDT

I was a blackbird in reading. My small group work was in a custodial closet in Sioux Falls. #nojoke #mnlead https://t.co/M97N9MVmYX

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:13 PM EDT

#mnlead A1: I felt ashamed to be in the low math group. They were coded, but everyone knew the Bears were dumb at math. First Grade.

MrDataGuy May 15 @ 8:15 PM EDT

@Clouducation_ Seriously?? We are setting up kids as winners or losers in the 2nd grade. Seriously?? Tell me its not true. #mnlead

PrincipalFrench May 15 @ 8:15 PM EDT

@chris_bussmann I've seen that cartoon! #mnlead

MarkJWestpfahl May 15 @ 8:15 PM EDT

Most depressing thing I've seen in a long time. :( #mnlead @Clouducation_ https://t.co/caeqB64J4B

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:15 PM EDT

A1 What about "When they get the answer wrong." Is it learning or WRONG? There can be shame in that word. #mnlead

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:16 PM EDT

#mnlead That flyer, posted by a parent to a testing opt-out page on FB, is the impetus for this discussion. I believe it to be a real thing.

korytellers May 15 @ 8:16 PM EDT

@chris_bussmann I can honestly say that at my elem. school the special ed kids were down by the boiler room in the basement! #mnlead

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:16 PM EDT

.@chris_bussmann I bet that really inspired your continued improvement. #mnlead

millardamy2 May 15 @ 8:16 PM EDT

Makes my heart sad. #mnlead https://t.co/9KS7QvYRSn

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:11 PM EDT

#mnlead A1: https://t.co/ekYzKGESR9

BradLatzke May 15 @ 8:16 PM EDT

It's still a pretty traditional school world out there. #mnlead

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:17 PM EDT

Q2 on the way #mnlead

ipapaverison May 15 @ 8:17 PM EDT

A1/2 Flyer = totally opposite of Coach Wooden's grt philosophy: We are a team. How can flyer be in kids' best interests? @bretdom #mnlead

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:17 PM EDT

Q2: Are there practices or structures in edu that tend to lead Ss to feel shame? #mnlead

DrMerriRajaniem May 15 @ 8:17 PM EDT

@Clouducation_ I know Ss that would give up and not even try due to academic frustration #mnlead

MrDataGuy May 15 @ 8:17 PM EDT

@JennReichel I agree with you but if we as educators are in charge of those experiences I am troubled. Should be building hope. #mnlead

chris_bussmann May 15 @ 8:18 PM EDT

I missed 1/2 my recess too! I am actually a great reader, but after moving 2x in 2 yrs I didnt care. #mnlead https://t.co/ib2redGNGg

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:16 PM EDT

.@chris_bussmann I bet that really inspired your continued improvement. #mnlead

korytellers May 15 @ 8:18 PM EDT

@TheTattooedProf I'm going to remember to go and look back at your TL after #mnlead Your tweets have me curious. :)

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:18 PM EDT

A2: The concept of F for fail makes students scared of failing instead of seeing it as an opportunity for improvement. #mnlead

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:18 PM EDT

This entire discussion demonstrate educators MUST have empathy & be prolific relationship builders. W/o these, everything is futile. #mnlead

PrincipalFrench May 15 @ 8:18 PM EDT

A2) Ability grouping. Public reading or recording of grades. #mnlead

chris_bussmann May 15 @ 8:18 PM EDT

A2: This. #mnlead https://t.co/QYpv2eI8yV

JennReichel May 15 @ 8:19 PM EDT

Totally agree! Fortunately, I think we have good teachers working diligently to develop growth mindsets! #mnlead https://t.co/tWHEHZZ8mS

MrDataGuy May 15 @ 8:17 PM EDT

@JennReichel I agree with you but if we as educators are in charge of those experiences I am troubled. Should be building hope. #mnlead

millardamy2 May 15 @ 8:19 PM EDT

Vital to weave a growth mindset into every fiber in your building...wrong turns into an opportunity to grow!#mnlead https://t.co/Kc0Xhi5Kx8

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:15 PM EDT

A1 What about "When they get the answer wrong." Is it learning or WRONG? There can be shame in that word. #mnlead

PrincipalFrench May 15 @ 8:19 PM EDT

Ouch! #mnlead https://t.co/gOAPjBKWwX

chris_bussmann May 15 @ 8:18 PM EDT

A2: This. #mnlead https://t.co/QYpv2eI8yV

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:19 PM EDT

Theis #mnlead discussion demonstrates educators MUST have empathy & be prolific relationship builders. W/o these, everything is futile.

writeonwallace May 15 @ 8:19 PM EDT

A2: Grades, honor roll, grading periods, GPS, celebrations based on arbitrary mark off academic success #mnlead

ipapaverison May 15 @ 8:20 PM EDT

A2 #mnlead Publishing/posting ALL scores, etc. From English Journal, the Green Book philosophy is awesome for recognizing even smidgins w +

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:20 PM EDT

A2 How about Read Alouds popcorn style? If you aren't a strong reader, no matter the grade, you are identified & shamed. #mnlead

DrMerriRajaniem May 15 @ 8:20 PM EDT

@MarkJWestpfahl @Clouducation_ Where are #mnlead SUPERHEROES??? IronMan, Capt America, Thor, we need you

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:20 PM EDT

Q2: Are there practices or structures in edu that tend to lead Ss to feel shame? @cloud #mnlead

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:20 PM EDT

A2: I am concerned anytime a student loses free time or recess time to get remediation. Will always seem like punishment. #mnlead

korytellers May 15 @ 8:20 PM EDT

A2 Honestly I think teachers are the ones who make or break the structures for Ss to feel shame. Goes back to relationships.+ #mnlead

clmaxa May 15 @ 8:20 PM EDT

Grades are an issue. They tell Ss so much. You have an A or an F. #mnlead https://t.co/RKv1kn4XvD

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:17 PM EDT

Q2: Are there practices or structures in edu that tend to lead Ss to feel shame? #mnlead

MoralesPattie May 15 @ 8:20 PM EDT

A2) the pressure to get the highest test scores bc they share their numbers (which leads to frustration and fixed mindset) #mnlead

MarkJWestpfahl May 15 @ 8:20 PM EDT

And thanks @mahillmann :) it was a tremendous experience I wish all teachers could be a part of! #mnlead https://t.co/tcOidQvySa

MrDataGuy May 15 @ 8:21 PM EDT

A2: An assessment system that is geared towards passing the state test rather than supporting learning. #mnlead

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:21 PM EDT

.@bretdom I was a good reader but I felt so badly for my fellow students during this activity. I never used it as an ELA teacher. #mnlead

korytellers May 15 @ 8:21 PM EDT

+with strong relationships in place, no Ss should ever feel shame with their learning. Teachers have the power to make sure of this. #mnlead

SteeleThoughts May 15 @ 8:21 PM EDT

It is very efficient to have students grade each other's papers, but it can be embarrassing for students. #mnlead https://t.co/fQPpDG8lA8

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:20 PM EDT

Q2: Are there practices or structures in edu that tend to lead Ss to feel shame? @cloud #mnlead

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:21 PM EDT

Yep. That's a big problem. Changes the motivation for all stakeholders. #mnlead https://t.co/RKVYuiFZLp

MrDataGuy May 15 @ 8:21 PM EDT

A2: An assessment system that is geared towards passing the state test rather than supporting learning. #mnlead

JK_McMahon May 15 @ 8:21 PM EDT

A2: Letting the "gifted kids" have all the amazing learning opportunities, while the others kids get worksheets. #mnlead

BradLatzke May 15 @ 8:21 PM EDT

A2 Posting test scores on wall, standing in a corner. I could go on with my own ms experiences. Sure these don't happen now, right? #mnlead

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:22 PM EDT

.@Clouducation_ Me too...and so much learning happens during those times. #mnlead

MrDataGuy May 15 @ 8:22 PM EDT

@mahillmann YESSSSSSSSSSSS #mnlead

MarkJWestpfahl May 15 @ 8:22 PM EDT

@ipapaverison @PrincipalFrench I'll model when I'm wrong, or screw up. You're right - it's important for Ss to see us mess up! #mnlead

writeonwallace May 15 @ 8:22 PM EDT

A2.2 Starting to realize some well intentioned intervention may be shaming in nature #mnlead

MoralesPattie May 15 @ 8:22 PM EDT

And these are the Ss that usually need recess the most! #mnlead https://t.co/Ad8Bt25CTN

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:20 PM EDT

A2: I am concerned anytime a student loses free time or recess time to get remediation. Will always seem like punishment. #mnlead

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:22 PM EDT

A2 Breakdown of relationships. Shame comes when a T doesn't honor an area where a S needs help ie LD, ADHD, lack of food, etc. #mnlead

millardamy2 May 15 @ 8:22 PM EDT

I agree-the culture created in your classroom and the relationships you build set the stage for risk taking. #mnlead https://t.co/kAn6NTZjRj

korytellers May 15 @ 8:20 PM EDT

A2 Honestly I think teachers are the ones who make or break the structures for Ss to feel shame. Goes back to relationships.+ #mnlead

korytellers May 15 @ 8:23 PM EDT

Sometimes I think the opposite happens as well. Both are wrong. #mnlead https://t.co/PApGPALBxE

JK_McMahon May 15 @ 8:21 PM EDT

A2: Letting the "gifted kids" have all the amazing learning opportunities, while the others kids get worksheets. #mnlead

Amy_MacCrindle May 15 @ 8:23 PM EDT

A2: Grades, non flexible groups, projects that require certain supplies or assume backgrounds #mnlead https://t.co/8Fb5aKOLQT

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:17 PM EDT

Q2: Are there practices or structures in edu that tend to lead Ss to feel shame? #mnlead

MarkJWestpfahl May 15 @ 8:23 PM EDT

@fleetssara @Clouducation_ you know these discussions take place in many schools. It's heartbreaking & demoralizing. #mnlead

chris_bussmann May 15 @ 8:23 PM EDT

A2.1: That is why I love the power of "YET". Everyone of us are not quite there "yet" for one thing or another. Like our Ss. #mnlead

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:23 PM EDT

@korytellers @JK_McMahon It's the "If you finish early you get to... for fun." While the others struggle to get it done w/o HW. #mnlead

LauraGWillis May 15 @ 8:24 PM EDT

A2: Anytime Ss' achievement, progress, or completion (homework) is broadcast publicly are practices that should end immediately. #mnlead

ipapaverison May 15 @ 8:24 PM EDT

A2 #mnlead Reward gems: idea that one sentence could be a gem was a powerful motivator to revise and to set their "voices" free in writing.

DrMerriRajaniem May 15 @ 8:24 PM EDT

FAIL (First Attempt in Learning) NO (Next Opportunity), END (End Never Dies) #mnlead https://t.co/f5kLb71Oro

JennReichel May 15 @ 8:24 PM EDT

A2. Practice that create a culture of fear and fixed mindedness. #mnlead

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:24 PM EDT

A2: I think even positive attention given to high flyers compared to stern demeanor to struggling learners is plenty to create shame #mnlead

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:24 PM EDT

A2 How about the less overt things? Low expectations based on demographics or making excuses for not giving Ss our best effort? #mnlead

chris_bussmann May 15 @ 8:25 PM EDT

I love the project/supply component. All too often we are well intentioned, but assume many things. #mnlead https://t.co/5vtVbkjerZ

Amy_MacCrindle May 15 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A2: Grades, non flexible groups, projects that require certain supplies or assume backgrounds #mnlead https://t.co/8Fb5aKOLQT
- Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:17 PM EDT
  
  Q2: Are there practices or structures in edu that tend to lead Ss to feel shame? #mnlead

writeonwallace May 15 @ 8:25 PM EDT

How do we provide celebration of learning without also bringing shame to some? #mnlead

JK_McMahon May 15 @ 8:25 PM EDT

@korytellers Yes! I think it skips over the kids in the middle who maybe never get innovative learning experiences. #mnlead

SPPS_Richardson May 15 @ 8:25 PM EDT

A2:not being able to redo/retake assessments. There's something intense there-power struggle, calendar as diety, "learning's closed" #mnlead

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:25 PM EDT

EVERYONE should have this work 6ft tall on their wall. The most powerful word in learning! #mnlead https://t.co/75XYDpl6cv

chris_bussmann May 15 @ 8:23 PM EDT

A2.1: That is why I love the power of "YET". Everyone of us are not quite there "yet" for one thing or another. Like our Ss. #mnlead

MarkJWestpfahl May 15 @ 8:25 PM EDT

A2 One of my biggest pet peeves. Standardized testing that ties Ss to opportunities/or lack their of. #mnlead https://t.co/X1kxHIKSdV

MrDataGuy May 15 @ 8:21 PM EDT

A2: An assessment system that is geared towards passing the state test rather than supporting learning. #mnlead

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:25 PM EDT

This last one is especially important and often overlooked. Not all students can provide needed supplies. #mnlead https://t.co/e2Bbwt2puM

Amy_MacCrindle May 15 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A2: Grades, non flexible groups, projects that require certain supplies or assume backgrounds #mnlead https://t.co/8Fb5aKOLQT
- Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:17 PM EDT
  
  Q2: Are there practices or structures in edu that tend to lead Ss to feel shame? #mnlead

SteeleThoughts May 15 @ 8:25 PM EDT

A2: If the teacher doesn't handle correctly, having Ss work problems at the board can be very embarrassing. #mnlead

korytellers May 15 @ 8:25 PM EDT

@JK_McMahon Absolutely! We need to make ALL students get those innovative learning experiences! #mnlead

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:26 PM EDT

@writeonwallace This is a fair question. Does the ‘praise in public’ and ‘constructive feedback’ in private analogy work here? #mnlead

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:26 PM EDT

@writeonwallace Differentiate what we celebrate. Does everyone have the same goal or can we find the "special" moment for each? #mnlead

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:26 PM EDT

Q3 is suiting up! #mnlead

millardamy2 May 15 @ 8:26 PM EDT

Ts need to let Ss be themselves and love them wherever they are at-Ss can tell who cares and who doesn't...#mnlead https://t.co/cr0CcJTBRZ

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:22 PM EDT

A2 Breakdown of relationships. Shame comes when a T doesn't honor an area where a S needs help ie LD, ADHD, lack of food, etc. #mnlead

MarkJWestpfahl May 15 @ 8:26 PM EDT

A2 #mnlead & teachers ALSO feel ashamed during evals if they didn't have every voice speak in a lesson. #mnlead https://t.co/IHdlbaWNco

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:20 PM EDT

A2 How about Read Alouds popcorn style? If you aren't a strong reader, no matter the grade, you are identified & shamed. #mnlead

MarkJWestpfahl May 15 @ 8:26 PM EDT

A2 #mnlead & teachers ALSO feel ashamed during evals if they didn't have every voice speak in a lesson. #mnlead https://t.co/IHdlbaWNco

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:20 PM EDT

A2 How about Read Alouds popcorn style? If you aren't a strong reader, no matter the grade, you are identified & shamed. #mnlead

ipapaverison May 15 @ 8:27 PM EDT

#mnlead Creating a "team" culture & celebrating each small victory; takes care & empathy & deft humor @writeonwallace

millardamy2 May 15 @ 8:27 PM EDT

I have used the power of "yet" with my staff as well...it is so powerful and applies to everyone...#mnlead https://t.co/ujBF8lGNkN

chris_bussmann May 15 @ 8:23 PM EDT

A2.1: That is why I love the power of "YET". Everyone of us are not quite there "yet" for one thing or another. Like our Ss. #mnlead

writeonwallace May 15 @ 8:27 PM EDT

A2: I think we need to create a culture where struggle is accepted and embraced rather than wipe out public/visible learning #mnlead

JK_McMahon May 15 @ 8:28 PM EDT

#mnlead https://t.co/iTj2rzTfqh

Pompeiana79 May 15 @ 8:27 PM EDT

@writeonwallace @JK_McMahon but being wrong is necessary

MrDataGuy May 15 @ 8:28 PM EDT

@mahillmann We should always reflect on how we might do this. Poverty is a great predictor of academic failure. We can change this. #mnlead

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:28 PM EDT

A good solution: individual white boards for Ss. They can still do the work and a T can view w/o publicity. #mnlead https://t.co/icIiQVkvEF

SteeleThoughts May 15 @ 8:25 PM EDT

A2: If the teacher doesn't handle correctly, having Ss work problems at the board can be very embarrassing. #mnlead

MarkJWestpfahl May 15 @ 8:28 PM EDT

A2 My district doesn't give "F" anymore. We go A, B, C, D.... and N. Like "N" is any "better" #mnlead https://t.co/30JNc0MKfz

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:18 PM EDT

A2: The concept of F for fail makes students scared of failing instead of seeing it as an opportunity for improvement. #mnlead

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:28 PM EDT

Q3: What is the impact on the learner when they feel shame about their work? #mnlead

ipapaverison May 15 @ 8:29 PM EDT

Dang, #mnlead, must run, but will be happy to email Green Book idea & Open Discussion artcles from English Journal: no shamefor Ss, promise!

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:29 PM EDT

@MarkJWestpfahl Hmm....what was the rationale for N? Just to get rid of F? #mnlead

writeonwallace May 15 @ 8:29 PM EDT

@bretdom And yet avoid the devalued everyone gets a trophy culture #mnlead

MarkJWestpfahl May 15 @ 8:29 PM EDT

A2 Education is a journey of failure that leads to success. Ts need to provide context on that journey. #mnlead https://t.co/eVUz1xUVpq

writeonwallace May 15 @ 8:27 PM EDT

A2: I think we need to create a culture where struggle is accepted and embraced rather than wipe out public/visible learning #mnlead

EdLead670 May 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT

A3. That's a loaded question! #mnlead

jwalkup May 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT

@mahillmann Use clear plastic sheet covers with cardstock inserted. Cheaper. You can also insert graph paper, graphic organizers #mnlead

PrincipalFrench May 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT

A3) Shut down; negative self talk; focus on what was criticized rather than positives. #mnlead

JK_McMahon May 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT

A3: Shutting down. Not engaging or trying. #mnlead

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT

A3 They stop working. If I feel bad about my work, does it really matter anyway? #mnlead

Amy_MacCrindle May 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT

A3: Learning doesn't occur. Frustration, anxiety, self doubt. #mnlead https://t.co/Ixn2fRHjf8

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:28 PM EDT

Q3: What is the impact on the learner when they feel shame about their work? #mnlead

korytellers May 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT

A3 I've seen that impact start in kindergarten, extremely hard to make that shame go away once it's there. #mnlead

MoralesPattie May 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT

My son's school will give a 0 for a missing test/project. Tanks a kid's grade. #mnlead https://t.co/CfeuZ2v90l

MarkJWestpfahl May 15 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A2 My district doesn't give "F" anymore. We go A, B, C, D.... and N. Like "N" is any "better" #mnlead https://t.co/30JNc0MKfz
- amythuesen May 15 @ 8:18 PM EDT
  
  A2: The concept of F for fail makes students scared of failing instead of seeing it as an opportunity for improvement. #mnlead

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT

@Clouducation_ @writeonwallace Feedback is an accelerator for S learning. It isn’t what you say, it’s how you say it, I suppose. #mnlead

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT

A3: They are likely to lose the desire to try, school starts to feel confining to them. Go from loving school to hating it. #mnlead

sara_plsas May 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT

A3: avoidance! #mnlead

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT

@chris_bussmann said it well about the moves. You just stop caring if you get shamed repeatedly. #mnlead

DrMerriRajaniem May 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT

A3. To struggling Ss, it's better to NOT try than fail in front of their peers and to feel shamed #mnlead

writeonwallace May 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT

This is key to reducing shame #mnlead https://t.co/8URyMiV78k

Pompeiana79 May 15 @ 8:27 PM EDT

@writeonwallace @JK_McMahon but being wrong is necessary

kelley_weiss May 15 @ 8:31 PM EDT

It is a horrible practice and ineffective for reading instruction #mnlead https://t.co/XjCaHqXpa2

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:20 PM EDT

A2 How about Read Alouds popcorn style? If you aren't a strong reader, no matter the grade, you are identified & shamed. #mnlead

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:31 PM EDT

@jwalkup Great suggestion! #mnlead

byrnedout42 May 15 @ 8:31 PM EDT

@Clouducation_ #mnlead connection between the assessment and real life grows cloudy, motivation and engagement suffer. Tools like google 1/2

PrincipalFrench May 15 @ 8:31 PM EDT

A3) Adults react in similar ways. Even if there was much positive, we will focus on the criticisms, even if positives outweigh. #mnlead

korytellers May 15 @ 8:31 PM EDT

Look at @jwalkup sharing a very helpful tip for the classroom! #WhoopWhoop :) #mnlead https://t.co/M4Fdee1mHb

jwalkup May 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT

@mahillmann Use clear plastic sheet covers with cardstock inserted. Cheaper. You can also insert graph paper, graphic organizers #mnlead

sara_plsas May 15 @ 8:31 PM EDT

@kelley_weiss yet, I remember it well. #mnlead

JennReichel May 15 @ 8:31 PM EDT

A3. Compliance without risk-taking and joy. #mnlead

EdLead670 May 15 @ 8:31 PM EDT

@MoralesPattie I have to ask...is it fair for a S to receive a higher grade than a 0 if they didn't complete the project- others did?#mnlead

byrnedout42 May 15 @ 8:32 PM EDT

@Clouducation_ #mnlead replace skill of finding and evaluating information independently 2/2

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:32 PM EDT

@writeonwallace That's the tricky part. We have some S's 2 grade levels lower in Reading. We have to find their celebration point. #mnlead

jwalkup May 15 @ 8:32 PM EDT

@korytellers ... instead of the usual crap spewing from his keyboard! :) #mnlead

chris_bussmann May 15 @ 8:32 PM EDT

A3. In MS we call it being on Front Street. No one wants to be there so every reason to avoid it comes out. #mnlead https://t.co/ZFQ5hgXjTb

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:32 PM EDT

Q3: What is the impact on the learner when they feel shame about their work? @cloudu #mnlead

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:32 PM EDT

@Clouducation_ @MarkJWestpfahl Makes sense at first,but like taking an old building and trying 2 fix facade while walls r crumbling. #mnlead

SPPS_Richardson May 15 @ 8:32 PM EDT

A3:when I felt ashamed for something I knew was wrong, I fixed it. When I've been shamed for honest missteps, trust=damaged. #mnlead

writeonwallace May 15 @ 8:32 PM EDT

How you say it! Yes. Grades often say nothing about learning or nothing specific #mnlead https://t.co/M4LyXQ3vRY

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT

@Clouducation_ @writeonwallace Feedback is an accelerator for S learning. It isn’t what you say, it’s how you say it, I suppose. #mnlead

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:32 PM EDT

A3: My son for a very long time (1st-3rd grade) was ashamed to not be able to read, and it impacted EVERY ASPECT of home and school. #mnlead

korytellers May 15 @ 8:32 PM EDT

@jwalkup You know I love everything you tweet, John! ;) #mnlead

GZittergruen May 15 @ 8:32 PM EDT

A-3: Significant delays in growth and motivation for learning! #mnlead

clmaxa May 15 @ 8:32 PM EDT

I look forward to the day when we state progress in terms of reality. Beginning or becoming expert. #mnlead https://t.co/spYrEf27CW

MarkJWestpfahl May 15 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A2 My district doesn't give "F" anymore. We go A, B, C, D.... and N. Like "N" is any "better" #mnlead https://t.co/30JNc0MKfz
- amythuesen May 15 @ 8:18 PM EDT
  
  A2: The concept of F for fail makes students scared of failing instead of seeing it as an opportunity for improvement. #mnlead

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:33 PM EDT

YES! I see a lot of students who won't even attempt because then they can say they didn't fail. #mnlead https://t.co/PZm4S3o1ZJ

DrMerriRajaniem May 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT

A3. To struggling Ss, it's better to NOT try than fail in front of their peers and to feel shamed #mnlead

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:33 PM EDT

A3 (Possibly) irreparable long-term damage in confidence. #mnlead

millardamy2 May 15 @ 8:33 PM EDT

I have done my BEST work when I felt someone believed in me-Ss that feel shame don't believe in themselves. #mnlead https://t.co/F9THqRDGFo

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:28 PM EDT

Q3: What is the impact on the learner when they feel shame about their work? #mnlead

MrDataGuy May 15 @ 8:33 PM EDT

A3: Confidence is the sweet spot between arrogance and despair to paraphrase @TomSchimmer Schools must build hope, banish despair #mnlead

kelley_weiss May 15 @ 8:33 PM EDT

A3 They shut down and then become disruptive to learning. Instead of learning Ss feel bad about themselves and deemed a problem #mnlead

jwalkup May 15 @ 8:33 PM EDT

@korytellers Not even my Mom likes more than half the stuff I tweet. #mnlead

SPPS_Richardson May 15 @ 8:33 PM EDT

A3: I've seen Ts give honest, blunt, "tough love" feedback to Ss, but when wrapped in love and belief in the student, it's received. #mnlead

writeonwallace May 15 @ 8:33 PM EDT

A3: Shame can cause learner to avoid risks necessary for further learning & growth #mnlead

korytellers May 15 @ 8:34 PM EDT

I am SO chuckling right now! :) #mnlead https://t.co/pIR3BVxkDY

jwalkup May 15 @ 8:33 PM EDT

@korytellers Not even my Mom likes more than half the stuff I tweet. #mnlead

BradLatzke May 15 @ 8:34 PM EDT

A3 Many students will quit trying if negative attention is attached to their efforts. Really inexcusable behavior by adults. #mnlead

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:34 PM EDT

A3 The shame turns into "I'm not good enough so why keep up the effort? You don't think I can do this." #mnlead

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:34 PM EDT

Blech. So boring! #mnlead https://t.co/Lvexi5sLTG

JennReichel May 15 @ 8:31 PM EDT

A3. Compliance without risk-taking and joy. #mnlead

MoralesPattie May 15 @ 8:34 PM EDT

@EdLead670 but why a 0? Was the standard assessed? If you're measuring proficiency, what does 0 mean? #mnlead

MarkJWestpfahl May 15 @ 8:34 PM EDT

Goes to the standards based grading angle. Tougher to tank a course w/1 missing assignment in SBG. #mnlead @EdLead670 @MoralesPattie

writeonwallace May 15 @ 8:35 PM EDT

Sorry to leave early, but not ashamed - need full attention to daughter's 3on3 game #mnlead

korytellers May 15 @ 8:35 PM EDT

A3 All of our responses remind us that everything, every little thing we do with our Ss affect them somehow. Make a difference. #mnlead

millardamy2 May 15 @ 8:35 PM EDT

They feel as if their voice doesn't matter-All Ss should feel they are a vital part of the classroom! #mnlead https://t.co/XzL91U9rNk

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT

A3 They stop working. If I feel bad about my work, does it really matter anyway? #mnlead

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:35 PM EDT

@EdLead670 @MoralesPattie Consider the jump from 0-50 as opposed to 50-60...that doesn't seem like fair math either, though. #mnlead

SPPS_Richardson May 15 @ 8:35 PM EDT

A3: if those "tough love" speeches don't include "why" & "I care about & believe in you", it's just yelly. #mnlead https://t.co/TzXsNYSC27

SteeleThoughts May 15 @ 8:36 PM EDT

A3: For students to grow, they have to get outside their comfort zone. Shame causes students to retreat. #mnlead

EdLead670 May 15 @ 8:36 PM EDT

@MoralesPattie I would say if the assignment wasn't completed and was a measure of proficiency, how will the T know if S has it? #mnlead

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:36 PM EDT

Narrative feedback is powerful. Done well it is rocket fuel for learning. Too many don’t do this well…yet #mnlead https://t.co/vTuqD6SKWm

writeonwallace May 15 @ 8:32 PM EDT
How you say it! Yes. Grades often say nothing about learning or nothing specific #mnlead https://t.co/M4LyXQ3vRY
- mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT
  
  @Clouducation_ @writeonwallace Feedback is an accelerator for S learning. It isn’t what you say, it’s how you say it, I suppose. #mnlead

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:36 PM EDT

@kelley_weiss Amen! I could not agree with you more. #conferring #readtoself #readtoothers #mnlead

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:37 PM EDT

Cruising right along! Q4 is coming up! #mnlead

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:38 PM EDT

We are most vulnerable outside our comfort zones. We need to be skillful in helping Ss navigate this… #mnlead https://t.co/Jl3T7UA3UX

SteeleThoughts May 15 @ 8:36 PM EDT

A3: For students to grow, they have to get outside their comfort zone. Shame causes students to retreat. #mnlead

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MarkJWestpfahl May 15 @ 8:38 PM EDT

A3 #mnlead I hear this from Ss from time to time. It's heartbreaking. Tells me *I'M* not doing it right. Not them. https://t.co/B22YpA8ShT

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:34 PM EDT

A3 The shame turns into "I'm not good enough so why keep up the effort? You don't think I can do this." #mnlead

MoralesPattie May 15 @ 8:38 PM EDT

Which is why percentages and Standards based grading don't mix. #mnlead https://t.co/qlHMS0bnun

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:35 PM EDT

@EdLead670 @MoralesPattie Consider the jump from 0-50 as opposed to 50-60...that doesn't seem like fair math either, though. #mnlead

MrDataGuy May 15 @ 8:38 PM EDT

@EdLead670 @MoralesPattie If the assignment was critical learning, and it show mastery, must be completed, if not critical why given?#mnlead

MarkJWestpfahl May 15 @ 8:39 PM EDT

A3 #mnlead goes back to relationship & continual feedback/chances. If tough love only once, hard for Ss believe https://t.co/CKkIJgX1v1

SPPS_Richardson May 15 @ 8:33 PM EDT

A3: I've seen Ts give honest, blunt, "tough love" feedback to Ss, but when wrapped in love and belief in the student, it's received. #mnlead

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:39 PM EDT

And one way we can do that is to be outside of OUR own comfort zone. In front of them. #mnlead https://t.co/uPlHaX7bmz

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:38 PM EDT
We are most vulnerable outside our comfort zones. We need to be skillful in helping Ss navigate this… #mnlead https://t.co/Jl3T7UA3UX
- SteeleThoughts May 15 @ 8:36 PM EDT
  
  A3: For students to grow, they have to get outside their comfort zone. Shame causes students to retreat. #mnlead

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:39 PM EDT

#mnlead Kids don't mind hearing "that attempt wasn't there yet. Keep going" They do mind hearing "You did poorly" Words matter.

kelley_weiss May 15 @ 8:39 PM EDT

@bretdom I have found symphony reading is a great way to teach and build confidence #mnlead

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:39 PM EDT

Q4: What policies or changes have helped to diminish shaming of students? #mnlead

millardamy2 May 15 @ 8:40 PM EDT

Students need to be "seen", cared about, and shown compassion....it's the foundation of learning. #mnlead https://t.co/gvilMppdTo

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:40 PM EDT

Honest feedback is not shameful by default. The relationship the precedes it is critical for > reception. #mnlead https://t.co/LexuamkbLB

SPPS_Richardson May 15 @ 8:33 PM EDT

A3: I've seen Ts give honest, blunt, "tough love" feedback to Ss, but when wrapped in love and belief in the student, it's received. #mnlead

millardamy2 May 15 @ 8:40 PM EDT

Model, model, model! So important! #mnlead https://t.co/y8938vNlPH

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:39 PM EDT
And one way we can do that is to be outside of OUR own comfort zone. In front of them. #mnlead https://t.co/uPlHaX7bmz
- mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:38 PM EDT
  
  We are most vulnerable outside our comfort zones. We need to be skillful in helping Ss navigate this… #mnlead https://t.co/Jl3T7UA3UX
  
  SteeleThoughts May 15 @ 8:36 PM EDT
  
  A3: For students to grow, they have to get outside their comfort zone. Shame causes students to retreat. #mnlead

MoralesPattie May 15 @ 8:40 PM EDT

@EdLead670 I agree, but then leave the standard blank until they show their level of proficiency? This is the big debate I hear #mnlead

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:40 PM EDT

@MoralesPattie @EdLead670 + it takes me potentially 5 times longer 2 recover from that zero than 2 recover from a D (60). Daunting. #mnlead

EdLead670 May 15 @ 8:41 PM EDT

True. @amythuesen @MoralesPattie #mnlead

JK_McMahon May 15 @ 8:41 PM EDT

A4: Student response systems allow all student voices to be heard, without others knowing who answered. Tech can be an equalizer. #mnlead

BradLatzke May 15 @ 8:42 PM EDT

A4 Traditional grades can significantly diminish many students desire to learn. #mnlead

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:42 PM EDT

A4 Standards-based grading. We can monitor "progress" rather than getting a "grade." Give other ways of showing what you know. #mnlead

chris_bussmann May 15 @ 8:42 PM EDT

If we base all grade bands off 10% increments, then a 60% gap for failing is hard to overcome. #mnlead https://t.co/Ozh2PljT9D

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:40 PM EDT

@MoralesPattie @EdLead670 + it takes me potentially 5 times longer 2 recover from that zero than 2 recover from a D (60). Daunting. #mnlead

MarkJWestpfahl May 15 @ 8:42 PM EDT

A4 #mnlead I try 2 have more 1:1 convos when I sense something is off. I reiterate to Ss that they CAN come to me https://t.co/Fz0m0KYZPx

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:39 PM EDT

Q4: What policies or changes have helped to diminish shaming of students? #mnlead

korytellers May 15 @ 8:43 PM EDT

A4 That relationships are important. It's now OK for Ts to get to know our Ss and build upon those relationships. #mnlead

MrDataGuy May 15 @ 8:43 PM EDT

A4: Formative use of assessment. Hattie ranks it #1 as a classroom tool, Changes the learning trajectory, builds hope. #mnlead

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:43 PM EDT

A4: The move towards standards based grading. Makerspaces that encourage failure as part of learning. #mnlead

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:43 PM EDT

A4 Approaches like @responsiveclass focus on strategies for productive, non-judgmental feedback. Our language matters! #mnlead

MarkJWestpfahl May 15 @ 8:43 PM EDT

You need to be able 2 back up the "you CAN come to me" talk by following through and following up more than once. A4 #mnlead @Clouducation_

ehfowler7 May 15 @ 8:44 PM EDT

Q4: shift in view of teacher as facilitator of learning rather than as holder of all knowledge=more student voice #mnlead

BradLatzke May 15 @ 8:44 PM EDT

A4 School leaders have responsibility for creating school cultures where shaming is not tolerated. #mnlead

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:44 PM EDT

.@chris_bussmann I remember the very moment this hit me as a teacher. I changed scale the next day and retrofitted. #mnlead

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:44 PM EDT

And when we frame formative assessments as opportunities to learn, helps Ss in all aspects. #mnlead https://t.co/v9hlwb0aZt

MrDataGuy May 15 @ 8:43 PM EDT

A4: Formative use of assessment. Hattie ranks it #1 as a classroom tool, Changes the learning trajectory, builds hope. #mnlead

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:44 PM EDT

Q4: What policies or changes have helped to diminish shaming of students? @cloud #mnlead

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:44 PM EDT

Q5: What can be done to turn the potential for shame into a potential for joy in education? #mnlead

MoralesPattie May 15 @ 8:44 PM EDT

@MrDataGuy @EdLead670 should 1 assignment/test be the end all for a standard? And should sb grades be avgd for a class grade? #mnlead

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SPPS_Richardson May 15 @ 8:45 PM EDT

A5: I truly believe (w/ strong relationships ) standards based grading can be an ally, coupled w/ equitable grading practices. #mnlead

millardamy2 May 15 @ 8:45 PM EDT

A4) Growth mindset! #mnlead https://t.co/J6ehao80LS

GZittergruen May 15 @ 8:45 PM EDT

A-4: the reauthorization of ESEA takes the punitive impacts off of school buildings and children! #mnlead

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:45 PM EDT

A5 Celebrating the learning and the paths to get information. Getting over getting it "right." Let's talk abt what got you here. #mnlead

korytellers May 15 @ 8:45 PM EDT

A5 We really need to focus on Ss growth, no matter how big or small it is. Growth is growth. Setting goals and achieving them. #mnlead

SteeleThoughts May 15 @ 8:45 PM EDT

A4: We have workedto cultivate empathy within the staff. When Tt can identify with the Ss, they are less likely to embarrass. #mnlead

JennReichel May 15 @ 8:46 PM EDT

A5. Model that learning is productive struggle and the joy can come from incremental progress. #mnlead

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:46 PM EDT

A5 Remind ourselves learning is a journey that transcends your grade level & current proficiency status. Focus on big picture. #mnlead

MrDataGuy May 15 @ 8:46 PM EDT

@mahillmann Yes, Yes, Yes opportunities that are actionable. Formative use is not formative without an active response. #mnlead

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:46 PM EDT

I so agree. One of the reasons I love portfolios! #mnlead https://t.co/aHVnpcDbrx

korytellers May 15 @ 8:45 PM EDT

A5 We really need to focus on Ss growth, no matter how big or small it is. Growth is growth. Setting goals and achieving them. #mnlead

chris_bussmann May 15 @ 8:46 PM EDT

A4: We preach with Tt that "Not only can you treat a Ss differently based on what you know, but you ought to." #relationship #mnlead

millardamy2 May 15 @ 8:47 PM EDT

Opportunities for Ss to learn....and opportunities for Ts to better understand Ss and where they are at...#mnlead https://t.co/wuObDldYsV

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:44 PM EDT
And when we frame formative assessments as opportunities to learn, helps Ss in all aspects. #mnlead https://t.co/v9hlwb0aZt
- MrDataGuy May 15 @ 8:43 PM EDT
  
  A4: Formative use of assessment. Hattie ranks it #1 as a classroom tool, Changes the learning trajectory, builds hope. #mnlead

curleygirl84 May 15 @ 8:47 PM EDT

#mnlead Many classrooms in my district display a behavior clipchart. Talk abt a public shaming!Can cause tears & often anti-productive. :(

MoralesPattie May 15 @ 8:47 PM EDT

I love @plickers for this! They can see if they got the right answer without indiv answers shown #mnlead https://t.co/KpX37qjkvZ

JK_McMahon May 15 @ 8:41 PM EDT

A4: Student response systems allow all student voices to be heard, without others knowing who answered. Tech can be an equalizer. #mnlead

SteeleThoughts May 15 @ 8:47 PM EDT

A5: The best teachers figure out little ways for students to have success. Success is magical for motivation. #mnlead

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:47 PM EDT

A5: Show that failure is a natural and necessary part of the learning process. Celebrate the flops! #mnlead

SPPS_Richardson May 15 @ 8:47 PM EDT

A5: clarity re: proficiency, intentionality w/ benchmarks, exemplars, AND an understanding we play to strengths & attack weaknesses. #mnlead

EdLead670 May 15 @ 8:48 PM EDT

A5. Accentuate the positive. Highlight the strengths. All Ss are good at something. FInd it and let them know they're great #mnlead

MarkJWestpfahl May 15 @ 8:48 PM EDT

A4 #mnlead! It's time consuming, but written feedback that acknowledges their strengths is necessary. https://t.co/meUlfSkPFg

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:43 PM EDT

A4 Approaches like @responsiveclass focus on strategies for productive, non-judgmental feedback. Our language matters! #mnlead

MoralesPattie May 15 @ 8:48 PM EDT

@EdLead670 that's a really good question, and one that's being hotly debated. I wish I had an answer! #mnlead

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:48 PM EDT

@curleygirl84 Ughhh. Look at what color you are on.Do you want to be in the red?The shaming of that is painful. I remember it well. #mnlead

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:49 PM EDT

@bretdom @curleygirl84 Oh yeah...the stoplights on every desk. So painful. #mnlead

MrDataGuy May 15 @ 8:49 PM EDT

@MoralesPattie @EdLead670 One test should Never the end. Good formative practice gives evidence of proficiency. #mnlead

korytellers May 15 @ 8:49 PM EDT

A5 Go into a kindergarten classroom and take notes. Those teachers know how to make students have joy in their learning. #mnlead

MrsMurat May 15 @ 8:49 PM EDT

@korytellers and we need to stop comparing a Ss chapter 1 to another Ss chapter 2. #mnlead

MarkJWestpfahl May 15 @ 8:49 PM EDT

Go 1 step further though. Challenge Ss, (not just those who are struggling) by posing Qs in feedback #mnlead @mahillmann @responsiveclass

millardamy2 May 15 @ 8:49 PM EDT

As a teacher, setting goals with my Ss completely changed how invested my Ss were - great conversations! #mnlead https://t.co/zrBHXyaDmJ

korytellers May 15 @ 8:45 PM EDT

A5 We really need to focus on Ss growth, no matter how big or small it is. Growth is growth. Setting goals and achieving them. #mnlead

EdLead670 May 15 @ 8:49 PM EDT

@amythuesen So true. We don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but we have potential to grow each time we flop and learn from it. #mnlead

millardamy2 May 15 @ 8:50 PM EDT

Love this! #mnlead https://t.co/5LXuN7jsC0

chris_bussmann May 15 @ 8:46 PM EDT

A4: We preach with Tt that "Not only can you treat a Ss differently based on what you know, but you ought to." #relationship #mnlead

korytellers May 15 @ 8:50 PM EDT

YES! #mnlead https://t.co/1Zk5PLg83O

MrsMurat May 15 @ 8:49 PM EDT

@korytellers and we need to stop comparing a Ss chapter 1 to another Ss chapter 2. #mnlead

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:50 PM EDT

.@EdLead670 We celebrated teacher flops at a PD session last week. Some Ts were so surprised but overall the Ts loved the idea. #mnlead

MoralesPattie May 15 @ 8:50 PM EDT

A4/5) focused feedback. When Ss see too much at once they shutdown. Celebrate successes and improvement over perfection #mnlead

GZittergruen May 15 @ 8:51 PM EDT

A/5: We need to take shame totally out of the equation and joy will abound! #mnlead

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:51 PM EDT

A5: This isn't everyone gets a medal. This is everyone has a path to success. #mnlead.

korytellers May 15 @ 8:51 PM EDT

@MrsMurat I'd even go as far as saying we need to stop comparing school to school. We are all unique. #mnlead

ehfowler7 May 15 @ 8:51 PM EDT

@amythuesen @EdLead670 fail forward! #mnlead

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:51 PM EDT

Q6: How is mindset a key factor in battling shame in education? #mnlead

EdLead670 May 15 @ 8:52 PM EDT

@amythuesen I learned the most as a T when I had a lesson that flopped. I reflected and improved because I wanted to do better #mnlead

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:53 PM EDT

A6 I think mindset, relationships, feedback, differentiation, empowerment, etc are all ways to eliminate shame from our schools. #mnlead

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:53 PM EDT

A6 Growth mindset isn't a key. It is THE key. #mnlead

kelley_weiss May 15 @ 8:53 PM EDT

A5 Set growth goals for Ss and focus on growth from baseline. #mnlead

MoralesPattie May 15 @ 8:53 PM EDT

A6) knowing it's ok to not be there "yet" but having the ability to set a goal to get there. #mnlead

BradLatzke May 15 @ 8:53 PM EDT

A6 As we live in an imperfect world where mistakes happen often, growth mindset is essential in education and life. #mnlead

SPPS_Richardson May 15 @ 8:53 PM EDT

A6: #growthmindset convo must be daily. Constant examples, reminders that 'failure ain't fatal' & goal setting- no one has arrived! #mnlead

chris_bussmann May 15 @ 8:54 PM EDT

A6: Failure and Success both happen in the same amount of time....a moment. It's what you do inspire Ss next that builds character. #mnlead

MrsMurat May 15 @ 8:54 PM EDT

@Rrrerin2go and it's even better if you can ask Qs so Ss can identify what the problem is. #mnlead

korytellers May 15 @ 8:54 PM EDT

A6 ;) #mnlead https://t.co/n0IlmMIaYE

SteeleThoughts May 15 @ 8:54 PM EDT

The right mindset allows us to be proactive in cultivating positive relationships and experiences with ss. #mnlead https://t.co/sHBCY9JxGR

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:51 PM EDT

Q6: How is mindset a key factor in battling shame in education? #mnlead

millardamy2 May 15 @ 8:54 PM EDT

Yes!! #mnlead https://t.co/q60accwkNp

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:53 PM EDT

A6 Growth mindset isn't a key. It is THE key. #mnlead

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:54 PM EDT

A6: We have to purposely teach and model #growthmindset to undo damage of past shaming. #mnlead

millardamy2 May 15 @ 8:55 PM EDT

A6) Innovative learning...growth mindset...and learning built on a foundation of positive relationships. #mnlead https://t.co/QXYpWXck7p

curleygirl84 May 15 @ 8:55 PM EDT

@bretdom #mnlead Visitors have way too much info about students at a glance. I see Kdg Ss have meltdowns "walking the plank" to clip down.

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:56 PM EDT

It's coming to a close. CTA coming up. #mnlead

JennReichel May 15 @ 8:56 PM EDT

A6. Fixed mindset looks at "failure" as the end whereas growth mindset sees an opportunity. #mnlead

kmbross May 15 @ 8:56 PM EDT

A6 Look at the great message at the bottom of this 2nd grade report card. #mnlead https://t.co/xlBPsGKHW2

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:56 PM EDT

Wow. That was fast! #mnlead https://t.co/LFM8UO9um2

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:56 PM EDT

It's coming to a close. CTA coming up. #mnlead

ehfowler7 May 15 @ 8:56 PM EDT

@Clouducation_ enhanced metacognition skills leads Ss to make thoughtful choices and enhances ability to defend those choices #mnlead

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:56 PM EDT

CTA: What is something you can specifically target or advocate for that will help students reduce feelings of shame? #mnlead

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:57 PM EDT

That is awesome! Saved that image to share with our team. #mnlead Thanks Kevin. https://t.co/CfY0TLnBg7

kmbross May 15 @ 8:56 PM EDT

A6 Look at the great message at the bottom of this 2nd grade report card. #mnlead https://t.co/xlBPsGKHW2

MoralesPattie May 15 @ 8:57 PM EDT

It's definitely a HUGE shift in classroom and school culture! #mnlead https://t.co/0wdrNOTd4q

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:54 PM EDT

A6: We have to purposely teach and model #growthmindset to undo damage of past shaming. #mnlead

Peebles142 May 15 @ 8:58 PM EDT

Join us Mon@7pmCST for #LearnLAP as we discuss #21stCenturyClassrooms #APchat #21stedchat #MNLead #nbtchat #WISchat https://t.co/dMjemGK6ny

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:58 PM EDT

CTA By not doing it to their Ts. Leadership must model this practice. #mnlead

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:58 PM EDT

CTA: I will do my best to bring Makerspace ideals to all areas of school/learning. #mnlead

BradLatzke May 15 @ 8:58 PM EDT

Thanks #mnlead moderators and participants for discussing this important topic. Have a great week!

amythuesen May 15 @ 8:58 PM EDT

.@MoralesPattie For teachers too! #mnlead

ehfowler7 May 15 @ 8:58 PM EDT

CTA: Responsive classrooms, responsive school #mnlead

MrDataGuy May 15 @ 8:59 PM EDT

Tonight's #mnlead discussion connects to state testing. Please join us May 24th for the fairly new #ATAssess Chat https://t.co/EYSnOLskzR

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 8:59 PM EDT

CTA Celebrate the work and effort S's give everyday. Model positive speaking with T's and S's. Be the change you want to see. #mnlead

MarkJWestpfahl May 15 @ 8:59 PM EDT

"Failure" can be success... & we need 2 stress that to Ss. How we react & recover shapes our experiences. A5 #mnlead https://t.co/PDNuUpLkAX

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:46 PM EDT

A5 Remind ourselves learning is a journey that transcends your grade level & current proficiency status. Focus on big picture. #mnlead

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 8:59 PM EDT

As usual, @Clouducation_ brought his ‘A’ game when moderating #mnlead. Thanks for selecting this critical topic. Thoughtful discussion!

RACzyz May 15 @ 8:59 PM EDT

Help #4OCF Be part of the 100 Person Project! What makes for the ideal teacher? https://t.co/OMymRVMwOZ #ecet2 #mnlead #iaedchat #txeduchat

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 8:59 PM EDT

CTA: In the immortal words of Bill and Ted: "Be excellent to each other" #mnlead

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 9:00 PM EDT

Let's give a shout out to @Clouducation_ That was a great topic and one I don't always think about. Thanks Tony! #mnlead

chris_bussmann May 15 @ 9:00 PM EDT

CTA: ave us reach out to families and hear, as Paul Harvey would say, "The Rest of the Story". Then we need to do something with it. #mnlead

MrDataGuy May 15 @ 9:00 PM EDT

Great discussion. Nice to connect with folks at home in Minnesota. #mnlead Thanks to all.

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 9:00 PM EDT

Who is on deck to moderate #mnlead next week? https://t.co/8DmPSan4q4

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 9:00 PM EDT

Let's give a shout out to @Clouducation_ That was a great topic and one I don't always think about. Thanks Tony! #mnlead

korytellers May 15 @ 9:00 PM EDT

CTA By really looking my Ss in the eyes and talking to them, getting to know them and asking how they are doing in school. #mnlead

chris_bussmann May 15 @ 9:00 PM EDT

CTA: Have us reach out to families and hear, as Paul Harvey would say, "The Rest of the Story". Then do something with it. #mnlead

MoralesPattie May 15 @ 9:00 PM EDT

CTA) I'm going to work on acknowledging effort and growth more openly. #mnlead

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 9:00 PM EDT

Next week @korytellers will be leading us. You know that's going to bring us to new heights! @mahill #mnlead

korytellers May 15 @ 9:00 PM EDT

@mahillmann I think it's me! #mnlead

millardamy2 May 15 @ 9:00 PM EDT

CTA: Continue to empower my teachers. Model a growth mindset. Show care, compassion, and empathy to ALL Ss! #mnlead https://t.co/sy65hZHgd8

participatelrn May 15 @ 9:01 PM EDT

As #mnlead is winding down, you can now view transcripts and continue the conversation at https://t.co/qsRZqithnh

mahillmann - Moderator May 15 @ 9:01 PM EDT

@korytellers Boo Yah! #mnlead

kelley_weiss May 15 @ 9:01 PM EDT

@sara_plsas me too and how awful it feels to stumble over unknown words. #mnlead

MarkJWestpfahl May 15 @ 9:01 PM EDT

@mahillmann @Clouducation_ or, he brought he "4" game. Or, he allowed us to succeed at the level we aspired to. #mnlead ;)

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 9:01 PM EDT

@MrDataGuy Thanks for joining Jim! #mnlead

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 9:01 PM EDT

You wonderful people: Thanks for joining me for an absolutely fabulous discussion,visiting about something near & dear to my heart. #mnlead

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 9:01 PM EDT

@Clouducation_ Anytime you can bring Bill and Ted...Excellent! Not bogus. #mnlead

korytellers May 15 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Yes I am! And I am open for suggestions on what we should talk about! Give me some ideas! :) #mnlead https://t.co/Hb02eRiQCj

bretdom - Moderator May 15 @ 9:00 PM EDT

Next week @korytellers will be leading us. You know that's going to bring us to new heights! @mahill #mnlead

MoralesPattie May 15 @ 9:02 PM EDT

@Clouducation_ thanks for the awesome discussion! #mnlead

MarkJWestpfahl May 15 @ 9:03 PM EDT

We have the tools to create digital portfolios w/our Ss. We really should be helping our Ss showcase & reflect. #mnlead @SPPS_Richardson

millardamy2 May 15 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Great chat! Thanks @Clouducation_ Hoping the sun continues to shine this week - Have a great week #mnlead! https://t.co/52qf5ahBxe

Clouducation_ May 15 @ 9:01 PM EDT

You wonderful people: Thanks for joining me for an absolutely fabulous discussion,visiting about something near & dear to my heart. #mnlead