#makeitreal Archive


Wednesday October 24, 2018
9:30 PM EDT

  • MathDenisNJ - Moderator Oct 24 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    Welcome to #MakeItReal!!! And Welcome guest host @Jonharper70bd Looking forward to all you have to share tonight! Let's get started!
  • SteinbrinkLaura Oct 24 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    Good evening @Jonharper70bd @MathDenisNJ and #MakeItReal crew!
  • Jonharper70bd Oct 24 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    Hey Laura thanks for joining us tonight #makeitreal
    In reply to @SteinbrinkLaura, @MathDenisNJ
  • Lisa42Slp Oct 24 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    Lisa from MInnesota just joining in. #makeitreal
  • PreK33 Oct 24 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    Hi, everyone! #MakeItReal
    In reply to @MathDenisNJ, @Jonharper70bd
  • Jonharper70bd Oct 24 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    Hey Lisa good to see you here #makeitreal
    In reply to @Lisa42Slp
  • MathDenisNJ - Moderator Oct 24 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    Hi Laura! Great to see you're singing! I never stop :) Check it out! #makeitreal https://t.co/MP9NuMTdll
    In reply to @SteinbrinkLaura, @Jonharper70bd
  • MathDenisNJ - Moderator Oct 24 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    Hi Lisa!! Been a while since I was in MN. Thanks for joining us to #MakeItReal
    In reply to @Lisa42Slp
  • Jonharper70bd Oct 24 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    Hi, Kris. #makeitreal
    In reply to @PreK33, @MathDenisNJ
  • MathDenisNJ - Moderator Oct 24 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    Hi Kris! Welcome back to #Makeitreal
    In reply to @PreK33, @Jonharper70bd
  • MrPStrunk Oct 24 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    Phil from Northern Virginia jumping in! #makeitreal
  • Willmdunn Oct 24 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    Will Dunn (HS Math) of Kansas, here to be inspired be the #MakeItReal crew.
  • Lisa42Slp Oct 24 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    well you may want to wait until April as it gets too cold and miserable! lol #makeitreal
    In reply to @MathDenisNJ
  • _on11 Oct 24 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    This is Michael A. from #122edchat in Chicago. @SmartLab_tweets #STEM Facilitator. #makeitreal
  • Jonharper70bd Oct 24 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    Hey Phil, you're not that far from me #makeitreal
    In reply to @MrPStrunk
  • Lisa42Slp Oct 24 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    yes, so happy to be able to join in! #makeitreal
    In reply to @Jonharper70bd
  • MathDenisNJ - Moderator Oct 24 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    Hey!!! Great to see you Phil! #MakeItReal
    In reply to @MrPStrunk
  • Jonharper70bd Oct 24 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    Q1. Why do you think it is important for educators to be vulnerable? #makeitreal
  • MathDenisNJ - Moderator Oct 24 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    Especially since you're the #MakeItReal guest host next week!!!
    In reply to @MrPStrunk
  • Jonharper70bd Oct 24 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    hey Will that's some impressive Math you're doing there #makeitreal
    In reply to @Willmdunn
  • MathDenisNJ - Moderator Oct 24 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    Q1 RT #MakeItReal
  • Eric_Carlin Oct 24 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    Eric, Elementary AP joining from Smithville, MO tonight. I saw @MrPStrunk was on and the intro to this chat looked amazing. Excited to check it out. #makeitreal
  • MrPStrunk Oct 24 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    Haha, very happy to stay up past my bedtime to hang out with some cool people in #MakeItReal!
    In reply to @MathDenisNJ
  • SteinbrinkLaura Oct 24 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    It gives me this when I click to play! Sadness! I never quit singing either. 😄 #makeitreal
    In reply to @MathDenisNJ, @Jonharper70bd
  • _on11 Oct 24 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    You are????? You never tell me anything. #makeitreal
    In reply to @MathDenisNJ, @MrPStrunk
  • MrPStrunk Oct 24 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    A1: Students do not learn from robots. That is why technology will never replace teachers. Vulnerability shows them that humans can make mistakes and learn and grow in the process! #GrowthMindset #makeitreal
  • Eric_Carlin Oct 24 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    A1: When we are vulnerable we allow others to see that we aren't perfect. We are all improvingand learning as we go. When we let this show I feel like others are more likely to take a risk. #makeitreal
  • PreK33 Oct 24 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    A1: Kids need to see you as real. #MakeItReal
    In reply to @Jonharper70bd
  • MathDenisNJ - Moderator Oct 24 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    he has a life outside of you, Michael. #Makeitreal
    In reply to @_on11, @MrPStrunk
  • therequisos Oct 24 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    Liza, 4th grade T from Philippines teaching overseas. I'm finishing off consolidating #122edchat, but might need a breather by joining #makeitreal!
  • Lisa42Slp Oct 24 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    A1 I think educators need to be vulnerable in order to realize that we don't know everything and we need to be life-long learners. Kids need to see us that way and know that we aren't perfect. #makeitreal
  • Jonharper70bd Oct 24 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    A1. It gives others permission to do the same and oftentimes when we are vulnerable it lets others know they are not alone #makeitreal
  • MathDenisNJ - Moderator Oct 24 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    A1: This is a major message of mine. And students won't CARE about you if you're not vulnerable around them. Open up! #MakeItReal
  • MrPStrunk Oct 24 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    Pobody's nerfect! #makeitreal
    In reply to @Eric_Carlin
  • Jonharper70bd Oct 24 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    I never thought of the robot analogy #makeitreal
    In reply to @MrPStrunk
  • Blended_Math Oct 24 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    Hi #makeitreal! Ray, K-8 Math Coach from Rhode Island here! Check out the Instant Relevance Podcast (@instantrel) with @MathDenisNJ and @Blended_Math! https://t.co/45ePaLxJSn
  • _on11 Oct 24 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    A1: We are role models for those that we serve. If we desire to our students to be real, empathetic, sensitive, we need to put these behaviors into practice first. #makeitreal
  • therequisos Oct 24 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    A1: When we're vulnerable, we make mistakes & shows that we are not perfect. We are able to model how we can learn from failing & that it's not the end of the world. We can show Ss how we stand up to adversity, & that they can, too. #makeitreal
  • Jonharper70bd Oct 24 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    Absolutely, they have enough pressure and stress as it is. #makeitreal
    • Lisa42Slp Oct 24 @ 9:39 PM EDT
      A1 I think educators need to be vulnerable in order to realize that we don't know everything and we need to be life-long learners. Kids need to see us that way and know that we aren't perfect. #makeitreal
  • SteinbrinkLaura Oct 24 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    A1: Many reasons. Ss won't learn the value of it if we don't model it. We can't be real people to them if we aren't vulnerable. I don't learn as much if I don't admit vulnerability academically because I ignore/refuse the help I need. #MakeItReal
  • therequisos Oct 24 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    A spoonerism! Haven't seen one of those in a long time. #makeitreal
    In reply to @MrPStrunk, @Eric_Carlin
  • MrPStrunk Oct 24 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    I have this conversations with educators all the time who are fearful that more technology means less teachers. If anything, it means the opposite! #makeitreal #MaslowsBeforeBlooms
    In reply to @Jonharper70bd
  • Jonharper70bd Oct 24 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    True, we must make it safe to ask for help #makeitreal
    • SteinbrinkLaura Oct 24 @ 9:41 PM EDT
      A1: Many reasons. Ss won't learn the value of it if we don't model it. We can't be real people to them if we aren't vulnerable. I don't learn as much if I don't admit vulnerability academically because I ignore/refuse the help I need. #MakeItReal
  • MathDenisNJ - Moderator Oct 24 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    Great point! They can get information from robots, but they can't connect, develop, question and deeply learn from them. Except that Small Wonder robot. She taught us all so much, especially about vulnerability #makeitreal
    In reply to @MrPStrunk
  • Eric_Carlin Oct 24 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    A1 follow up....Funny to think we have Ss afraid to ask for help in class or are embarrassed. Is the T modeling this? Am I modeling this? #makeitreal
  • therequisos Oct 24 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    Amen to life-long learning! Such a game-changer for me, this mindset. #makeitreal
    In reply to @Lisa42Slp
  • SteinbrinkLaura Oct 24 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    Hey, pal! On my laptop now and can shoot you the gif I made for you. :) #MakeItReal
    In reply to @MathDenisNJ, @Jonharper70bd
  • Jonharper70bd Oct 24 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    Q2. What do we have to gain by being vulnerable at work? What do we have to lose? #makeitreal
  • Blended_Math Oct 24 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    #makeitreal - A1 - I think that being vulnerable means being human, which is first and foremost what you need to be in a classroom.
  • MathDenisNJ - Moderator Oct 24 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    RT Q2 #makeitreal
  • Lisa42Slp Oct 24 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    for sure! I always talk about the college classes that I am taking and all of the continuing education credits that I take. The kids then know that I am in this with them! #makeitreal
    In reply to @therequisos
  • Jonharper70bd Oct 24 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    At first it doesn't feel natural but after a while it gets easier to just share #makeitreal
    • Eric_Carlin Oct 24 @ 9:43 PM EDT
      A1 follow up....Funny to think we have Ss afraid to ask for help in class or are embarrassed. Is the T modeling this? Am I modeling this? #makeitreal
  • Jonharper70bd Oct 24 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    A2. Being vulnerable is the first step and one of the precursors to building trust. Being vulnerable can show our weaknesses that others may not have known existed. #makeitreal
  • Blended_Math Oct 24 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    #makeitreal - A2 - Being vulnerable allows us to connect with more people and reach out for help when we need it. Unfortunately, some people take advantage of others vulnerabilities, so proceed with caution.
  • Eric_Carlin Oct 24 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    A2: This may be cliche considering the name of this chat but it makes you real and relevant. It allows you to be more relatable. I read to a class Monday and talked about needing tutoring to improve my academics. I didn't enjoy reading as a kid. #makeitreal
  • MrPStrunk Oct 24 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A2: You have the opportunity to GAIN learning from others. There are some with fixed mindsets who look down on those who ask for help... so I guess you might lose them! #makeitreal
  • SteinbrinkLaura Oct 24 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A2: When I model being vulnerable, I show Ss that risk taking is okay to try because if they fail or mess up, Mrs. Steinbrink's been there and done that so it's cool. I don't expect perfection of Ss or colleagues, so I make sure they know that by sharing failures. #MakeItReal
  • MathDenisNJ - Moderator Oct 24 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A2: We all talk about how building relationships is the most important factor in classrooms and with colleagues. Those relationships can only be so deep without vulnerability. And that's not deep enough. #makeitreal
  • _on11 Oct 24 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A2: In my opinion, we have nothing to lose. Vulnerability keeps us grounded, humble, and real. People that cannot come to terms with their fallibility are dangerous and not fun to work with/for. #makeitreal
  • Jonharper70bd Oct 24 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    then they see you as more like them #makeitreal
    In reply to @Lisa42Slp, @therequisos
  • Lisa42Slp Oct 24 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A2: Being vulnerable ourselves can teach our students that it is okay to make mistakes and that actually making mistakes is critical in our learning process. #makeitreal
  • DennisDill Oct 24 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A2 I think there needs to be a balance between vulnerability and being confident in what you can do ... students don’t go to teachers for help if their teacher can’t do it. I don’t want kids to question my ability because I am vulnerable #makeitreal
  • PreK33 Oct 24 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    A2: Gain-being real lose-showing weakness #MakeItReal
    In reply to @Jonharper70bd
  • therequisos Oct 24 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    A2: That we are open to feedback & making changes. What do we lose? Whispers of you being perfect or having it all-together (bec I don't). #makeitreal
  • Jonharper70bd Oct 24 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    True, and you know what, if we lose them then we are probably better off #makeitreal
    • MrPStrunk Oct 24 @ 9:46 PM EDT
      A2: You have the opportunity to GAIN learning from others. There are some with fixed mindsets who look down on those who ask for help... so I guess you might lose them! #makeitreal
  • RichHayzler Oct 24 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    A1: Showing you are vulnerable shows that you are willing to put yourself out there to change, take risks and be courageous. It's what we want for our students. Show them your strength and what it means to be confident. #makeitreal
  • Eric_Carlin Oct 24 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    Good point...showing what happened after or what hasn't happend "yet" can be a big piece to add to sharing. #makeitreal
    In reply to @DennisDill
  • DennisDill Oct 24 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    Here is a thought ... if a kid had to choose between the vulnerable teacher and the confident know it all which would they choose? I know in college I chose the teacher with the Dr beside their name over one without because they knew what they were taking about. #makeitreal
  • therequisos Oct 24 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    Not our loss! #makeitreal
    In reply to @MrPStrunk
  • Jonharper70bd Oct 24 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    True, it is important we take the first step #makeitreal
    • RichHayzler Oct 24 @ 9:48 PM EDT
      A1: Showing you are vulnerable shows that you are willing to put yourself out there to change, take risks and be courageous. It's what we want for our students. Show them your strength and what it means to be confident. #makeitreal
  • Eric_Carlin Oct 24 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    Even with the Dr. in front of my name I still don't know what I am talking about but the Dr. shows that I am willing to work as hard as I can to find out more about it! #makeitreal
    In reply to @DennisDill
  • Jonharper70bd Oct 24 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    Q3. Why is it more difficult now than ever for kids to show vulnerability? #makeitreal
  • _on11 Oct 24 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    Very interesting thought, Dennis. As I am processing this, I find myself asking, "Which one would I feel closer to? The confident one, or the one that exhibits vulnerability?" #makeitreal
    In reply to @DennisDill
  • Lisa42Slp Oct 24 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    I know that you can still be vulnerable even with that Dr. in front of your name. I think kids want to see teachers that are open, flexible and willing to learn right along side them. #makeitreal
    In reply to @DennisDill
  • MrPStrunk Oct 24 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    Yes! Being vulnerable doesn't mean magnifying every "whoops" #makeitreal
    In reply to @DennisDill
  • RichHayzler Oct 24 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    A2: You gain the opportunity to learn, to grow and to be "real." You lose the chance to think you are perfect. It's too much pressure to think that way anyway! #makeitreal
  • SteinbrinkLaura Oct 24 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    Confident and Know It All aren't the same necessarily in my opinion. I prefer a confident and knowledgeable T who also shows vulnerability in that they take risks, handle it well when they fail, always seek to do better, & seek help when needed. Skills Ss need. #makeitreal
    In reply to @DennisDill
  • MrPStrunk Oct 24 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    A3: Ss have a reputation not only at school, but at home, on the playground, and now... ONLINE. In the age of social media, it is hard. #makeitreal
  • Eric_Carlin Oct 24 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    A3: Ss have a false sense of what real life can be like because we only see a filtered version on social media. #makeitreal
  • Jonharper70bd Oct 24 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    A3. Unfortunately, most of what they see on social media are highlight reels and end results. They rarely see or get to hear about the in between, the journeys. #makeitreal
  • Jonharper70bd Oct 24 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    Confident folks are comfortable being vulnerable. #makeitreal
    • SteinbrinkLaura Oct 24 @ 9:52 PM EDT
      Confident and Know It All aren't the same necessarily in my opinion. I prefer a confident and knowledgeable T who also shows vulnerability in that they take risks, handle it well when they fail, always seek to do better, & seek help when needed. Skills Ss need. #makeitreal
      In reply to @DennisDill
  • therequisos Oct 24 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    A3: So many reasons: 1st, there's social media (w/c is permanent), 2nd, the community (w/c frowns upon failure or showing some sort of weakness); 3rd, the school that is competitive & penalizes vulnerability aka as failing in school or not showing academic prowess. #makeitreal
  • Jonharper70bd Oct 24 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    Sad but true #makeitreal
    • MrPStrunk Oct 24 @ 9:52 PM EDT
      A3: Ss have a reputation not only at school, but at home, on the playground, and now... ONLINE. In the age of social media, it is hard. #makeitreal
  • DennisDill Oct 24 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    Let me rephrase that ... I was a history major ... I am not interested in sitting in a class with someone I don’t trust to teach me something I don’t know. ... and you know something ... kids lose respect for teachers who do not know their content. #makeitreal
    In reply to @Eric_Carlin
  • Eric_Carlin Oct 24 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    What Jon said! #makeitreal
    • Jonharper70bd Oct 24 @ 9:53 PM EDT
      A3. Unfortunately, most of what they see on social media are highlight reels and end results. They rarely see or get to hear about the in between, the journeys. #makeitreal
  • PreK33 Oct 24 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    A3: They're afraid of being bullied. Bullying is at an all-time high! I have stinkin' 4 year-olds that are bullying. I nip that in the bud real damn quick! Not on my watch! #MakeItReal
    In reply to @Jonharper70bd
  • _on11 Oct 24 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    A3: They are "on" 24/7. Everyone has a cellphone and is recording video for every fail. When failure occurs, it is the next thing that gets targeted on Snapchat. Dealing with this with our daughter's dance team. Her current mentality, "What's the point of trying?" #makeitreal
  • Lisa42Slp Oct 24 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    A3: I think that kids don't want to fail in fear they will be looked down upon or teased. #makeitreal
  • SteinbrinkLaura Oct 24 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    A3: There are a lot of pressures now which are different than previous gens faced. Their problems can follow them 24/7. They're expected to know more/do more at younger & younger ages. #TheStruggleIsReal for our Ss. #MakeItReal
  • RichHayzler Oct 24 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    A3: Kids think being vulnerable is a weakness. In a social media world it can be made to look like insecurity. We need to celebrate the students who put themselves out there, who take risks, who are willing to take a chance. Those are the dreamers and the doers. #makeitreal
  • MathDenisNJ - Moderator Oct 24 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    Let's all thank @Jonharper70bd for helping us remember to BE vulnerable, to SEE vulnerability, and to EMBRACE who we and our students really are! Thanks for an excellent #Makeitreal chat!!!
  • SteinbrinkLaura Oct 24 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    My motto that I say repeatedly in class to my HS Ss is that we're going to get "comfortable with being uncomfortable" this year. I want Ss to push themselves in ways they haven't previously. Stretch. Grow. #MakeItReal
    In reply to @Jonharper70bd
  • therequisos Oct 24 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    Oh no! The dance studio should be a safe space for learning. How do we improve our craft when every failure is criticized/ridiculed? I'm so sorry that your daughter is experiencing this. #makeitreal
    In reply to @_on11
  • Eric_Carlin Oct 24 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    Yes! It amazes me the pressures my kindergarten student feels about school. Ss are so observant. #makeitreal
    In reply to @SteinbrinkLaura
  • DennisDill Oct 24 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    Now we are talking semantics ... I don’t take risks because I am vulnerable... I take risks because I know what I am doing and the kids will follow my lead because they trust me #makeitreal
    In reply to @SteinbrinkLaura
  • lesliefarooq Oct 24 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    I do not equate vulnerability with weakness or lack of knowledge. I do think 'know it all' can sometimes be an act, a facade. That type of approach pushes me away; too loud, too flashy. I choose the vulnerable teacher. #makeitreal
    In reply to @DennisDill
  • Jonharper70bd Oct 24 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    I know my son tries to hide the incorrect answers on his work. I hate it #makeitreal
    • Eric_Carlin Oct 24 @ 9:56 PM EDT
      Yes! It amazes me the pressures my kindergarten student feels about school. Ss are so observant. #makeitreal
      In reply to @SteinbrinkLaura
  • DennisDill Oct 24 @ 10:00 PM EDT
    I do t care about “closeness” ... let me toss it back with ... which one would you trust more? My kids are close to me because they trust me and they know I will set them up to be successful #makeitreal
    In reply to @_on11
  • MrPStrunk Oct 24 @ 10:00 PM EDT
    #makeitreal, very excited to host as we talk about some sweet and some spooky topics! See you then!
  • SteinbrinkLaura Oct 24 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    Thanks for a great chat tonight, @Jonharper70bd ! Have a fab rest of your week, @MathDenisNJ and the #MakeItReal crew!
  • Lisa42Slp Oct 24 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    Thanks #makeitreal and thanks @Jonharper70bd for a great chat tonight!
  • _on11 Oct 24 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    It's at her middle school -- which is surprising that there is not greater control. She's tough as nails, but the negative feedback is tough to stomach because she tends to be a perfectionist. #makeitreal
    In reply to @therequisos
  • Jonharper70bd Oct 24 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    Thanks for joining the chat, great thoughts #makeitreal
  • SteinbrinkLaura Oct 24 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    Sure, & I was responding to your chosen words. Glad you clarified, but there is the unknown factor inherent in risk taking, so that is a form of vulnerability. I tell Ss, “This may fail, but we’re going to try something new.” May be a calculated risk, but still risky. #MakeItReal
    In reply to @DennisDill
  • Jonharper70bd Oct 24 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    thank you Lisa, it was fun #makeitreal
    In reply to @Lisa42Slp
  • Eric_Carlin Oct 24 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    Awesome stuff tonight @Jonharper70bd #makeitreal
  • Jonharper70bd Oct 24 @ 10:07 PM EDT
    thanks Eric for a great chat #makeitreal
    In reply to @Eric_Carlin
  • SteinbrinkLaura Oct 24 @ 10:09 PM EDT
    Exactly! We expect more and more out of littles that are increasingly not developmentally appropriate. #MakeitReal
    In reply to @Eric_Carlin